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ERIN BURNETT, CNN HOST: OUTFRONT next, a brave Russian politician calling for Putin to resign right here on OUTFRONT, risking jail or worse, as dissent in Russia appears to grow after Ukraine's stunning counteroffensive.
Plus, another election denier now running for Senate. Other Republicans blowing their chances of taking control of the Senate.
And Prince William just inherited a 685-year-old estate worth a billion dollars. So who gets the art, the jewels and all the royal residences?
Let's go OUTFRONT.
And good evening. I'm Erin Burnett.
OUTFRONT tonight, an extraordinary show of bravery, a Russian politician publicly calling for Putin to resign. As dissent in Russia appears to grow over its failures in Ukraine, Nikita Yuferev, a municipal leader in St. Petersburg, spoke to me moments after leaving court today, just after he paid a fine for speaking out against Putin.
In his first television interview, he was unafraid. He spoke to me. He doubled down on his call for stupid Putin to step down.
(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)
NIKITA YUFEREV, DEPUTY, SMOLNINSKYOVE MUNICIPAL DISTRICT, ST. PETERSBURG (through translator): We will continue to us insist on his resignation. Perhaps our words about Putin have a harmful effect on Russia, and he needs to leave power will continue to spread.
(END VIDEO CLIP)
BURNETT: I said it's extraordinary, right? He went to pay a fine, and it could get a lot worse than that. He came out, and he doubled down. And so, I asked him, why is he speaking out right now? Taking these incredible risks?
And here's what he told me. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)
YUFEREV (through translator): I have two little children. I don't want for them to go through what I am going through in 15 or 20 years, namely to be afraid of going out on the streets to speak their minds and demonstrations and protests. I don't want them to fear retaliation from the police.
(END VIDEO CLIP)
BURNETT: He is doing it for his children. As I said, Nikita Yuferev is taking a huge risk by speaking out by this. So he has already been fined. He paid that find today. He could face jail time next.
But he went on to tell me that he thinks that there has been a shift in public opinion as Putin's war has continued.
(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)
YUFEREV (through translator): We received words of support from those who voted for us. Then there are completely unknown people who have offered to pay off our fines and legal fees. One person offered to buy me a ticket to Mexico so I could move my family, my kids, and even my cats to a place where I would feel safe.
Of course, this is all anecdotal. We refused. But it shows just how much support we are getting, and how our ideas are being accepted by Russian society.
(END VIDEO CLIP)
BURNETT: You know, that support grows, or appears to grow inside Russia as he describes. Germany's chancellor who just spoke to Putin told reporters today that he said that there is no indication that Putin's attitude regarding the war has changed. Putin's military situation has grown more dire. Ukraine's military reports that Russian shelling has significantly decreased in the Kharkiv region. That is where Ukraine's counteroffensive is still in full force.
And Putin tonight, though, does have major support from one superpower. Chinese President Xi Jinping, full force now behind Putin. At least what we are going to see, about to meet with him for the first time since Putin's invasion. That will happen in just hours from now.
Nick Paton Walsh is OUTFRONT. He is live in Kharkiv, Ukraine.
And, Nick, what is the latest you are seeing on the ground there?
NICK PATON WALSH, CNN INTERNATIONAL SECURITY EDITOR: Still startling, I think, the advances that Ukraine have managed to pull off here in the past week, capitalized upon by the President Volodymyr Zelenskyy going to the recently liberated city of Izium.
We are beginning, though, to get flavors of Russia's response. It seems to be towards infrastructure, to ruin ordinary daily life for Ukrainians here. That of the electricity here in Kharkiv, hit over the past days, is beginning to come back.
And tonight, we are hearing about cruise missiles hitting the central city of Kryvyi Rih, potentially damaging dams there, causing intense flooding. But frankly, the story still is exactly how Russia managed to lose so much territory so fast.
Here is today's visit.
WALSH (voice-over): This is what confidence in victory looks like, delighted swagger from Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy, touring the liberated city of Izyum. A commander-in-chief created here as another human.
The smiles for this president as genuine as the danger.
Listen here, and you can hear explosions as he talks.
It may be possible to temporarily occupy our territories, he says, but it is certainly impossible to occupy our people.
This last months have been extremely hard for you, this is why I ask you, take care of yourselves, because you are the most precious thing we have.
It is a victory that came at an as yet specified cost -- this moment of silence for those dead.
What he sees, uttered devastation, part of why Russia is losing. It's hard to occupy and defend a city in this ruin. It's hard to imagine the Russian army's state of mind when it left behind this much of its armor. And what Zelenskyy did, another reason Ukrainian morale seems to be remaining high.
Russian President Vladimir Putin is using hundreds of miles away in Moscow when he gives out medals. This past, startling week, a tale of two nations and a gulf in enthusiasm for the fight. Moscow's manpower crisis is so acute, this video is apparently from a Russian prison, allegedly showing the man calling Putin chef, Yevgeny Prigozhin, personally recruiting convicts for the frontline.
He tells prisoners that the war is hard, they can't desert, get taken prisoner, drink, take drugs, or have sex with flora, fauna, men or women in the fight -- an undesirable message to an undesirable crowd.
Russia increasingly less looking like a nation united in what it won't even call a war yet. Even Putin's stooges turning. Here, Chechen leader Ramzan Kadyrov again undermining the Kremlin that brutally put him in power.
If you ask me, I would enact martial law and exhaust all possibilities to end the conflict with these demons, unlike a volunteer for Russia, he said, writing later, quote, we are at war with the whole NATO bloc. The unthinkable is happening. Russian dissent and criticism growing
but not yet at the speed of Ukrainian advances.
WALSH: Startling to see this sort of Russian dissent. And it comes in often odd forms in an authoritarian society. Those two people you heard from, from Russia, Yevgeny Prigozhin, Ramzan Kadyrov -- Prigozhin, indeed is him in that video, behind so many of the private mercenary schemes reportedly that's helped Putin's geopolitical goals around the world. Ramzan Kadyrov, part of Putin's very brutal wars in Chechnya, the man who brutally has held sway over that area, now in public making policy decisions, being part of the bid to try and salvage this disastrous military campaign. That is a form of dissent, frankly, in a world where the Kremlin controls every idea in the public sphere or at least tries to. And it's because of this unprecedented military failure.
It is staggering frankly six months into the war to be talking about the collapse like we've seen over the past weeks. And it's left Ukraine now with a much smaller war to fight and a much larger task ahead of Moscow to try and regain control of the narrative and stifle down the beginnings of dissent we're seeing here simply because of how badly managed this operation has been by Russia -- Erin.
BURNETT: Nick, thank you very much.
And, of course, in that video that nick showed, I hope it stood out to you that the man who is recruiting for Putin in that apparent video called it what it is, a war.
OUTFRONT Now, Democratic Congressman Mikie Sherrill. She's a member of the House Armed Services Committee and a former Navy helicopter pilot, as well as a Russian policy officer.
Also with me, retired Army Major General James "Spider" Marks.
So, Congresswoman Sherrill, I want to start with the Russian politician I mentioned Nikita Yuferev. He is, as I said, extraordinarily brave, pays the fine, has two young children. He's in Russia as he speaks and he chose to come on international television and tell the world that he stands by what he said that Putin should resign from office.
And he did that despite the risks of what could happen to him. What does that say to you?
REP. MIKIE SHERRILL (D-NJ): I think that's amazing. It's the same type of democratic spirit I saw on the streets of Kyiv when I visited weeks before the Russian invasion. It's again the same things that I heard when I was back in Kyiv a couple weeks ago, talking to President Zelenskyy and Reznikov, the defense minister, about the will of the Ukrainian people to fight and how they would prevail. And, remember a couple weeks ago, we hadn't seen these advances.
[19:10:04] And, yet, they -- they were assured -- assured that with the U.S. support and munitions that we were providing, that they could gain some victories and certainly we have seen that in the recent weeks.
BURNETT: General Marks, let's talk about this though because obviously the speed and the scale of the Ukrainian success is staggering. However, the context of this is that it is a more than a thousand-mile front line, right? This is a very big war.
So it's a big victory, but the war is even bigger. The areas in solid yellow show the areas recaptured by Ukraine on this map that I'm showing now.
You can see huge, but look at what's left. There is a long fight ahead. And the question is whether Ukraine can hold the areas they've recaptured, General, and also gain more. Can they do that?
MAJ. GEN. JAMES "SPIDER" MARKS, U.S. ARMY (RET.): Right. We need to be very cautious, kind of measured in terms of our response. Certainly what we've seen shouldn't surprise us. Look, the Ukrainians have done a significant amount of fighting from the outset of this campaign. Remember Kyiv was under assault and they pushed them back to Russia. I mean, this is quite amazing.
But what is incredible right now is that the Ukrainians have achieved this great tactical success. They've got to turn this into operational momentum. They've achieved some success. They've pushed some Russians back.
Bear in mind, the Russians now can go across the border. They are in sanctuary when they get back to Russia. They can refit. They can regroup and they can get back in the fight. It doesn't mean they're going to do anything that's much different than they've already done.
But this fight is not over. But we should feel very optimistic that what NATO has done to date, what Ukraine has done to date is quite significant. But again, let's not be surprised, but let's not be overjoyous about what's happened.
BURNETT: And, Congresswoman, also, I guess this is where it really matters to understand the scale, right? Some people watching this, you know, you see the bravery, the extraordinary bravery of that politician.
You see other municipal leaders, you know, who have signed petitions for Putin's removal. And they are brave. But they are a few individuals in a country of many, many millions. And I asked the municipal leader there, Nikita Yuferev, if he thought a coup was possible, whether he thought this popular dissent was growing.
And here's how he answered that question.
(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)
YUFEREV (through translator): Putin is very dependent on the elites. He is making their lives difficult. So, one solution for them is to throw him under the bus to get back to lives that they were living before.
(END VIDEO CLIP)
BURNETT: Congresswoman, from your understanding, the briefings you've received, what you have learned -- do you see any possibility of a coup at any point? Do you see the elites acting the way that he is saying they -- they might?
SHERRILL: Well, you know, I think, as you mentioned, Nikita's incredibly brave. And the reason he's so brave is because we've seen some of the elites dying under somewhat concerning circumstances.
SHERRILL: We've seen the way that Putin has been controlling the media. We've seen the way he's shut people down very quickly who foment dissent.
But certainly, I think that's what has his back up against the wall a little bit is things are not going well in Ukraine right now. His soldiers on the ground from our reports and from what President Zelenskyy and others said when we were in Kyiv a couple weeks ago, the morale is very poor, we've heard reports of Russian soldiers riding away on bicycles as they left high-end munitions.
SHERRILL: And we continue to see the resilience and the ingenuity of the Ukrainians. They're putting harm U.S.-made missiles on MiGs. And, you know, we anticipated that necessarily. And yet their ingenuity, their use of the HIMARS, their use of technology has been really, incredibly impressive.
And, yes, I think there are options for Putin. And you just heard them. He could have a draft. But I think what he's been desperately trying to do is not create dissent in people. That's why he's recruiting in the prisons, not in the middle classes.
SHERRILL: So, I think his back is a little bit against the wall because, yes, they could regroup, they could go back to Russia, live to fight another day. But they've spent an inordinate amount of money and munitions on this failing enterprise.
So it does remain to be seen how much further do they want to press this if we continue to see this Ukrainian success.
BURNETT: And, General Marks, this leads to the question of course of what path out there is for Putin. And some people don't even like to hear the question, but nonetheless it's there, right? What is -- what is the path that he hasn't yet mobilized or done a draft. He hasn't used a tactical nuke of which, of course, he could, you know? Then that starts a whole another set of repercussions.
What is your biggest concern about what he might do next? MARKS: Well, you just mentioned it, my biggest concern is that he
could use -- he could authorize -- look, the theater commander -- the Russian theater commander has delegated authority to use a tactical nuke. This is entirely different from the Western controls that exist, with the use of nukes, whether they're tactical or they're strategic, ICBMs. In the Western perspective, there's no -- no difference.
MARKS: But that theater commander has the authority to use it for a tactical objective. That concerns me greatly.
But then I also think the gloves should be taken off on the part of the Ukrainians and they should strike across the border. There's a lot of discussion about whether this would be an escalation.
Look, Putin's aggrieved. He was born aggrieved. The Russian empire has always been defined by its neighbors. It's always had challenges from its neighbors. So that's what he's trying to recreate here.
The Ukrainians in order to achieve operational objectives, the momentum that we talk about, they've got to be able to push the Russians back and keep them from reinforcing --
BURNETT: And, do you mean, Spider -- just to be clear, are you meaning more than strikes on Crimea and secret strikes in the middle of the night on Belgorod fuel depots?
MARKS: Yes, yes. Let's get back to where there are sanctuaries are in Russia, go after military targets, very precise. NATO is providing the precision munitions to assist with that. And that's been the sticking point all along. Not the crossover into Russia.
BURNETT: And, of course, that would -- that would be -- that would change things. Thank you both so very much. I appreciate it.
SHERRILL: Thank you.
MARKS: Thanks, Erin.
BURNETT: And next, Princess Kate and Queen Consort Camilla riding in a car together in the Queen's procession today. They are now the two most powerful women in the royal family.
Plus, a billion dollars. That is the worth of an ancient estate that Prince William has just inherited. It is one of the many jaw-dropping numbers that show the royal family's incredible wealth.
And the Secret Service handing over a number of new communications to the January 6th committee. The dates of these we understand to be January 5th and January 6th. New details, next.
BURNETT: You're looking at live pictures from London.
As you can see, it is 12:20 in the morning, and the line still moving, still more than 2 miles long to see Queen Elizabeth lying in state. They're not sitting and sleeping, moving all night long. No rest as they await to pay their respects.
Queen's coffin reaching Westminster Hall after her family led a solemn procession from Buckingham palace today. Hundreds of thousands of people are expected to pay their respects through Monday. And that is when the Queen's state funeral will be held.
Bianca Nobilo is OUTFRONT.
BIANCA NOBILO, CNN CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): Queen Elizabeth departed Buckingham Palace for the final time. Her coffin revealed for a grand farewell, adorned with the imperial state crown on top of the gun carriage of the Queen's royal horse artillery, flanked by her treasured grenadier guards and household cavalry in a procession led by her four children, King Charles III in ceremonial field marshal uniform, Princess Anne, Prince Andrew and Prince Edward.
The ceremonial and the operational regiments breaking through the silent crowds. Flights were partially suspended during the 14-minute procession for silence over the skies. Symbols of Britain parting famous London thoroughfares. To the tunes of classic music selected by the late Queen and minute guns fired from Hyde Park echoed through the Mall and Whitehall.
The only spoken words were prayers led by the archbishop of Canterbury at Westminster Hall.
JUSTIN WELBY, ARCHBISHOP OF CANTERBURY: And to God's gracious mercy and protection, we commit you.
NOBILO: Where her English oak coffin draped in the royal standard is placed on the catafalque.
CHRIS IMAFIDON, WAITING IN LINE: I was ready for the long stay. 24 hours, 48 hours, I was ready to stay on because this is a woman that means much more that majesty. She is modest and she communicated with us at our level, when we brought disadvantaged children to meet her.
NOBILO: A line of mourners snaked through Central London waiting for their turn to pay tribute to the Queen lying in state until her funeral on Monday.
SADIQ KHAN, MAYOR OF LONDON: The really reassuring thing is our king, King Charles III, had the best possible mentor and the best possible apprenticeship. And that's why I'm so confident that he will be a wonderful king.
NOBILO: The scale, security, and seize of crowds today give us a glimpse of what to expect as the city prepares for the Queen's funeral next week. (END VIDEOTAPE)
NOBILO: In amongst the sadness of the crowds, Erin, they were heartened to see Prince William and Prince Harry standing side by side as they walked behind their grandmother's coffin. That was interpreted as a display of symbolic unity between the two, and actually evoke many memories in here in Britain of the two men walking side by side behind their mother's coffin 25 years ago.
The public's definitely in the mood for unity, and they're hoping that it could be a sign that the difficult relationship between the brothers might have hopes of mending -- Erin.
BURNETT: Bianca, thank you so much, live from London.
And now to Mark Saunders, a journalist who has been covering the royal family for 35 years. He's the author of "Prince Harry: The Biography", and Sally Bedell Smith, CNN contributor and author of several royal biographies including "Prince Charles: The Passions and Paradoxes of an Improbable Life."
Mark, tonight, thousands are still lined up outside Westminster. They are moving, right? There's no rest. They're going to be walking through the night. There's three miles back that they are to be able to pay their respects to the Queen.
And today, we watched the new king and his family walk behind their coffin. And, Bianca, mentioned, we saw Prince William and Prince Harry there together. What are you looking for over these next days from these two crucial brothers?
MARK SAUNDERS, ROYAL BIOGRAPHER: Well, I've watched these boys grow up, and I remember when they were younger and I remember how much fun it was to be around them.
In particular, Harry who just adored the press was always great whenever we were there. And that William was always a little bit more reticent but they were still a happy band of brothers. And what I saw on the Friday evening when they came out at Windsor Castle, my first thought was that this is very strained. This has become very strained. Their body language just wasn't like anything that I'd ever seen before.
And now I learned William and Catherine are going to Sandringham tomorrow, Charles is going to go High Grove, and it's Prince Harry's birthday. So I kind of thought that they would all have been at Windsor together. It's difficult at this stage to say what's going on. But I think that they certainly need to get together and sort this out.
BURNETT: Sally, I know you've done so much reporting on their relationship. What do you make of what Mark just said about where they'll be on that important, his birthday? King Charles will be at High Grove House, his residence. That's two hours west of London. What does it tell you that this is where he'll be retreating and that
the brothers will be in different places at this pivotal moment?
SALLY BEDELL SMITH, AUTHOR, "ELIZABETH THE QUEEN": Well, I think it's for all of them a time of individual reflection. I wouldn't put too much emphasis on any kind of sense of disunity.
For Charles, High Grove is an extraordinary place. He has his own custom-built sanctuary that incorporates elements of Christianity and Greek orthodox, Byzantine. He built it in the shape of a cross. He has a quotation from the collective, the book of the common prayer above the door. It has four doorknobs that only he knows how to open.
And he has always gone there to reflect for at least ten minutes every time he visits. So I think that's the purpose of going there, I think. Up in Norfolk is a place where the prince and princess of Wales have always gotten to escape and reflect. I mean, these last few days have been really intense.
And Harry is probably -- you know, he too, I think, in his own way, will want to reflect. So, I look at tomorrow as a day of reflection for all of them, both to consider the grief that they're feeling and the events that they're going to face. That's my interpretation.
BURNETT: Amazing, doorknobs that only he knows how to open. I love the details that you continually add, Sally, that I'm sure if anybody watching, I'd be shocked.
But, Mark, today we saw something else that I found interesting. Camilla, the Queen consort and Kate, now princess of Wales, they left Buckingham Palace together in the same car on their way to Westminster Hall. And it sort of gives you a moment to realize these are now the two most powerful women in the royal family.
How do you expect that this will affect their relationship with each other, of how they will interact as they take on such significant roles?
SAUNDERS: Well, I think it's good that they're together. And I think it's fairly obvious that they get along very well together. Remember, Catherine kind of came in after Camilla had got all that bad press sometime ago. So, then being together I think is very important because, remember, William now is a very senior member of the royal family. He was always an heir apparent. He's now the heir apparent.
And him and Catherine are going to be taking over many of the jobs that Camilla -- the Queen Consort Camilla and King Charles, I'm still trying to get used to saying that. Now as king and Queen, they will now move up a notch. But William and Catherine are going to be vital to the future because they are, as I say, senior members.
Now, we have got big tours coming up, Australia, New Zealand, the Far East, and America, which will be the big one. And I think you will see William and Catherine in the spotlight over the next few years.
BURNETT: Yeah, absolutely. Thank you both so very much. I appreciate it.
And next, the chairman of the January 6th Select Committee revealing new details about communications that the Secret Service handed over from the day of the insurrection.
Plus, Mike Lindell, the CEO of My Pillow, who became one of the biggest promoters of Trump election lies, of course, claims that the FBI seized his phone at a Hardy's. What really went down?
BURNETT: Tonight, January 6th Committee Chairman Bennie Thompson says new Secret Service records given to the committee include new communications from January 5th and 6th. Thompson saying the committee was given, quote, thousands of exhibits with the majority of them coming on those specific dates.
And a Secret Service spokesman tells CNN that the new information does not include any recovered versions of previously missing text messages from the Secret Service agents, which is significant because obviously that's been part of the story too that some of those messages were missing in what they said was a switch of phone service.
Evan Perez is OUTFRONT.
Evan, what more are you learning about this new information handed over to the committee, right? Bennie Thompson said thousands of exhibits. What does that mean?
EVAN PEREZ, CNN SENIOR JUSTICE CORRESPONDENT: Right. Well, the issue for the committee is, you know, they wanted -- they sent a subpoena over for these lost text messages, these text messages that were believed to have been lost in this equipment transfer that happened after January 6th, Erin. And what Thompson is saying is that he's not sure whether these Microsoft teams chats that were sent over by the Secret Service could be versions of things that were believed to have been lost as part of that process.
So, that's something that the committee is now going through. But obviously, it's a significant thing that these were communications that happened on January 5th, January 6th. This is a very key period that the committee is investigating. They want to know what the communications were during that period to see whether there's something that tells you about what was happening at the White House, and it informs really what happened at the Capitol.
BURNETT: So, there is that development. Then there's also Mike Lindell, the MyPillow CEO, of course, Evan, who was one of the most vocal proponents of Donald Trump's election lies. He is now saying that the FBI subpoenaed him for the contents of his phone.
What do you know about that? PEREZ: Well, it happened at the drive through at a Hardee's fast food
restaurant in Minnesota. He said the FBI approached him with a search and seizure warrant. He gave us, Erin, a copy of the warrant. And one of the things the warrant says they're investigating identity theft and intellectual damage to a protected computer.
Now, Lindell is connected to Tina Peters, who is a county clerk in Colorado who's been charged by the state of Colorado with tampering with voting machines. He's also very well connected to a bunch of people around the country who were trying to seize voting machines. If you remember, they were trying to get the Justice Department to do this. They couldn't get him to do it. And so they went this route.
So, now, the FBI is investigating. Clearly, they now have a window into this issue that happened not only in Colorado but also around the country, and we'll see where that investigation goes, Erin.
BURNETT: Evan, thank you.
And so let's go straight to Harry Litman, because he is the former U.S. attorney and former deputy assistant attorney general.
All right. So, Harry, let's start with Chairman Thompson, OK? The committee's received thousands of new communications from Secret Service agents from January 5th and 6th, noting they're not the ones that somehow have gone missing. But still thousands of new communications.
How significant could that be?
HARRY LITMAN, FORMER U.S. ATTORNEY: It's a little hard to say. Thousands of pages is really striking, right?
LITMAN: And it depends what the Secret Service uses this team software to do. Is it these formal meetings? How could it add up to so much material?
LITMAN: Or is it the sort of chats, the kind of unguarded statements that you would think you would have in the texts and the emails, the kind of things that would reflect on, let's say, what Trump was doing at those times, maybe reflect on the famous incident in the car where he's lunging to go to the parade.
I was surprised that it would be such a volume when it doesn't include those texts. And that's what the committee is right now sifting through.
BURNETT: Well, I mean, incredible, and incredible I think on this point. I mean, sometimes you get to step back, that they're getting this now, right, that yesterday, there were 30 subpoenas or, you know, we found out about 30 subpoenas in the past week from the DOJ. That there just seems to be this incredible tsunami of stuff happening now, raising the question as to why now.
Enter Mike Lindell, the MyPillow CEO. Obviously he was out and about every minute he could spreading the election lie. So he gets subpoenaed by the FBI for the contents of his phone at a Hardee's drive thru and you can't make this up.
BURNETT: Now, this is related to a Colorado elections clerk. This is related to -- he was indicted for allegedly letting someone access those voting machines. So, it's part of that.
But what does it tell you that the FBI is now involved in that aspect of Mike Lindell?
LITMAN: Yeah. So, Mike Lindell, of course, famously is involved in a meeting in January 2020 where he goes to the White House and says you should do the insurrection act. This is different. So, this is -- what the big thing is, they're making a federal case out of it.
Tina Peters is a clerk in Colorado who's under indictment and state charges of accessing the machine. Basically she let people come in and take it over, and they were looking for evidence that these Dominion machines, remember Dominion that's suing Lindell for $1.3 billion. That had somehow produced extra votes for Biden. No evidence of this at all. But that's the overall effort.
And that the feds are coming in -- you know, there's a separate grand jury now in the Western District of Colorado. But Lindell is associated also with Michigan, Georgia. So it seems to me it's separate from the whole January 6th investigation in Washington, but it's focused on specifically these efforts to, you know, identity theft, hack into computers, and computers are under federal jurisdiction here, to try to find fruitlessly evidence of votes for Biden, yeah.
BURNETT: All right. Thanks so much, Harry Litman.
LITMAN: Good to see you.
BURNETT: And next, another election denier is now on the ballot running for Senate for New Hampshire. As control of Congress hangs in a balance.
And Queen Elizabeth's personal wealth. Yes, the art, the jewels, the multiple royal residences. So who inherits her vast fortune?
BURNETT: Tonight, former President Trump celebrating that the, quote, Trumpiest people, won their primary elections in New Hampshire, including Don Bolduc, a retired Army brigadier general who has pushed lies about widespread election fraud in 2020.
(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)
DON BOLDUC (R), NEW HAMPSHIRE U.S. SENATE CANDIDATE: I signed a letter with 120 other generals and admirals saying that Trump won the election, and, damn it, I stand by my words.
(END VIDEO CLIP)
BURNETT: It comes as more than half of the 35 Republican Senate nominees in the November midterms have outright denied or cast doubt on Joe Biden's victory.
OUTFRONT now, Harry Enten, our senior data reporter.
So, Harry, I want to start with Don Bolduc. He won the Republican primary in New Hampshire by 1,700 votes. I just wanted to emphasize, that the moderate could have won here. This could be a very different conversation we're having, but, no, that is not what happened.
So, he wins. GOP establishment loses. What does this mean for New Hampshire, and, of course, Maggie Hassan who is on the other side?
HARRY ENTEN, CNN SENIOR DATA REPORTER: Maggie Hassan is thanking her lucky stars.
Look, if you go back six years ago, Maggie Hassan barely got into office. She won by 0.1 percentage points. You look at the polling now. Where do you see Bolduc's standing? He is trailing by six points.
If this is supposed to be a good Republican year --
ENTEN: -- you should see a much closer race than what we're seeing right now. And I think that this is emblematic of a candidate who the voters at this particular point in the state of New Hampshire don't particularly like. And at this point anyway they're willing to stick by Hassan.
BURNETT: Okay. So let's broaden this out. So that just happened there. Well, it's not the only place it's happened.
Nineteen Republican nominees for U.S. Senate have either denied or cast doubt on Biden's election win, right? We're done on primaries here, and these are the people who have advanced, past go and are now in the general election.
So, what does this mean for the Democratic candidates that they're now running against, who aren't running against a moderate, they're now running against a full-on Trump-ite?
ENTEN: You know, one of the things I might've expected going into the general election was that these election deniers or those who voted not to, in fact, certify the 2020 election, they would either be in deeply red states or deeply blue states, states where it really didn't matter who the Republicans nominated. But just look at the four key swing states, right?
Look at the state like Arizona. Look at a state like Wisconsin. You know, we mentioned -- already mentioned New Hampshire. Look at Ohio, look at Nevada. And all of these states, what you see are the Republican candidates either trailing or tied in all those that I mentioned. And these are states, keep in mind, where the candidates are actually doing about the same or even worse than the 2016 base line which you might anticipate.
Again, you'd think that the Republican candidates in these states, Blake Masters in Arizona, you'd expect them to be closer than six points, right? But he simply put not.
BURNETT: And you know what's amazing about this as sort of Democrats have been actually funding some of these pro-Trump-ite candidates in the primaries to hope that they would win the primary and then it make it's easier for the Democrat to win. You know, it really bothers me personally because then you're having a vote based on the 2020 election lie because that's what Democrats want.
ENTEN: They would love it.
BURNETT: And that's what seems to be what they're getting here.
ENTEN: It seems to be exactly what they're getting here. And I guess the larger question for me is why the Republican voters doing this, why are they nominating candidates who are perhaps not so well-liked in the middle of an electorate. It's because Republican voters do in fact believe the idea that the election was in fact stolen from Donald Trump.
You know, if you look at a state like Arizona, you look at a state like Wisconsin, the Republican voters there are not at all confident. The majority of Trump voters are not at all confident that the election was in fact legitimate, versus if you look at the general electorate, very few only about a quarter of the electorate in those states believe that the election was not in fact legitimate.
BURNETT: Pushing the moderates and the independents over to the Democratic side here. Would this be different if you had open primaries?
ENTEN: Look, Wisconsin does actually have an open primary. What essentially is going on here, in my opinion, is that the Republican voters and the Trump supporters are so different than the rest of the electorate.
You know, Democrats are more than willing to nominate moderates. Republicans haven't been nearly as willing to. We'll see if it hurts them in the fall. This could be a good Republican year given how high inflation is. But at this particular point, the Republicans are underperforming what the base line would suggest them doing.
BURNETT: They're proving that we are always our own worst enemies.
ENTEN: Well, for some of us that may be the case. If you ask my girlfriend, she may say that.
BURNETT: All right. Harry, thank you very much.
ENTEN: Thank you.
BURNETT: And OUTFRONT next, King Charles III is now one of the richest people on the planet, worth billions of dollars. So what makes up his massive family fortune?
And rail workers have less than two days to hammer out an agreement, or trains in the United States could grind to a halt. Our economic analyst Jim Bianco warns that the consequences right now could be devastating.
BURNETT: Tonight, the secret royal will as King Charles III steps into his role as British monarch. He's inheriting billions of dollars in land and royal homes.
Anna Stewart is OUTFRONT.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: King George arrived by special train when he made his two-day tour with the Duchy of Cornwall.
ANNA STEWART, CNN CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): A centuries old estate. It's now a billion dollar-plus inheritance. When Prince William became the Prince of Wales and the duke of Cornwall, he took on a lot more than titles. He inherits the sprawling Duchy of Cornwall estate from his father which covers almost 140,000 acres mostly across the Southwest of England. Last year, its accounts valued the estate at $1.2 billion, and as the new King Charles will inherit a lot more.
Royal wills are not made public so what happens to much of the queen's personal wealth which includes art, jewels, and two royal residences will likely always remain a secret.
But the bulk of the royal family's wealth totaling more than $21 billion in land, property, and investments passes down the line of succession. King Charles as reigning monarch inherits the crown estate making him one of the richest people in the world, by far the biggest of the family fortune with an estimated worth of $19 billion.
The land encompasses vast swaths of central London property. Among its holdings are Regent Street, much of the west end, the ascot racecourse and even extends to the lucrative seabed around England, Wales, and Northern Ireland.
EMILY NASH, CNN ROYAL COMMENTATOR: As prince of Wales, King Charles had excellent stewardship over his Duchy of Cornwall estate. And he was able to generate huge income both from properties and land and other investments but also developing products sold by the Duchy of Cornwall like food, biscuits, honey sold in super markets in the U.K. and he's built fantastic brands.
STEWART: In the last year, it generated a net profit of almost $361 billion driven largely by commercial leases on the land. From that, the U.K. treasury paid the monarch what's called a sovereign grant, around $100 million.
However, the monarch and his heir are limited in what they can spend. The king can only spend a sovereign grant on royal duties and any profit is reinvested. Most of this money is spent on maintaining the family's properties and paying their staff.
STEWART (on camera): It is some inheritance. It's been interesting. I've had people question whether it's time the family paid inheritance tax on private wealth. The U.K. is in a cost of living crisis, the worst inflation of the G7.
And actually the day the queen died, the brand new prime minister gave a speech in parliament to try and reduce people's energy bills. I think it's very unlikely we'll see any change on that, if I'm honest, I don't think there's the public pressure for it. Not least as you had in that report, King George already opts to pay tax on his income and now he's a monarch he'll certainly be staying out of politics. At least that is the expectation -- Erin.
BURNETT: Well, amazing, amazing. Thank you so much for that report, Anna.
And next from car makers to commuters, a showdown between workers and rail companies could affect every single American.
And finally tonight, urgent negotiations under way as I speak between the Biden administration and railway carriers and unions in the U.S. Sixty thousands freight workers are threatening to strikeover pay and working conditions, sick days. If no deal is reached, in less than 28 hours, they could walk off the job and that would essentially shutdown America's railways. Keep in mind railways move nearly a third of all cargo in the United States.
Our economic analyst Jim Bianco telling OUTFRONT that if a strike stretches for weeks it could be devastating for the economy. And that means reduced gas productions, spoiled crops, choked off supply of new cars, empty shelves at stores, all of this, and it would also affect people traveling. Amtrak's already canceling long distance passenger trains because those routes run on freight tracks.
Thanks so much for joining us.
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