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Trump Works Phones, Pushes "Big" Bill As Self-Imposed Deadline Nears; New Activity At Iran Nuke Site; Deadly Idaho Ambush Details. Aired 7-8p ET

Aired June 30, 2025 - 19:00   ET

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BRIANNA KEILAR, CNN HOST: OUTFRONT next:

Breaking news, more problems for Trump's mega bill. Signs of a split in his party as the voting is now underway to consider changes to the president's so-called "Big, Beautiful Bill".

Plus, new activity at Iran's nuclear sites. Satellite images show work resuming after U.S. airstrikes, as intercepted communications between Iranian officials reveal what Tehran is saying about the damage to their sites.

And breaking news, a deadly ambush. Troubling details emerging tonight about the gunman who started a brush fire and then killed two firefighters who responded to the blaze.

Let's go OUTFRONT.

Good evening. I'm Brianna Keilar, in for Erin Burnett.

OUTFRONT tonight, big, beautiful drama. Senate Republicans are right now charging forward with Trump's gigantic spending bill. The hope is to pass it by this week's self-imposed deadline of July 4th. But at this hour, Trump is struggling to get his party to fall in line.

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KAROLINE LEAVITT, WHITE HOUSE PRESS SECRETARY: Republicans need to stay tough and unified during the home stretch, and we are counting on them to get the job done.

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KEILAR: Right now, though, they're not unified and Trump is working the phones, talking to leaders John Thune and Mike Johnson. During the marathon voting session that is still underway, Senators Lisa Murkowski and Susan Collins joined Democrats trying to force changes to the bill.

But it's not just them. There are a number of Republican senators with concerns and just four defections kill the bill. Among those on the fence, Kentucky Senator Rand Paul, Wisconsin Senator Ron Johnson, Maine Senator Susan Collins, Alaska Senator Lisa Murkowski and North Carolina Senator Thom Tillis, who has spent the past 48 hours lashing out at Trump's signature legislation.

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SEN. THOM TILLIS (R-NC): I'm telling the president that you have been misinformed. You supporting the Senate mark will hurt people who are eligible and qualified for Medicaid.

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KEILAR: Online, Tillis is siding with Trump's former top ally, Elon Musk, who is sounding the alarm about slashing subsidies for clean energy. Tillis posting on X, "Folks, Elon Musk is 100 percent right, and he understands this issue better than anyone. We should take his warnings seriously. We can't let communist China become the long-term winner."

As for Musk, the country's largest disclosed Republican donor, he's now threatening every Republican who backs the bill. He posted every member of Congress who campaigned on reducing government spending and then immediately voted for the biggest debt increase in history, should hang their head in shame, and they will lose their primary next year if it is the last thing I do on this earth.

He also said there is now only one political party, the, quote, porky pig party.

Lauren Fox is OUTFRONT live on Capitol Hill. Kristen Holmes is at the White House.

Let's start with Lauren Fox.

Lauren, what is the latest that you're learning about where this vote is going tonight?

LAUREN FOX, CNN CONGRESSIONAL CORRESPONDENT: Yeah. Right now, Senate Republicans are going in and out of a dinner meeting. Essentially, this is still unfolding on the Senate floor. And despite the fact that none of the amendments that they have voted on so far have changed the contours of this bill, nothing has been added to this bill.

All of the amendments have failed. You are seeing laid out very clearly the differences between Republicans and Democrats on their view of what matters in this legislation. Democrats have put up one vote after another on repealing some of the cuts to Medicaid that are a part of this bill. A couple of times they have seen Senator Susan Collins and Senator Lisa Murkowski, two Republicans voting alongside of them.

But there are still two amendments that we are waiting for that could be extremely significant to changing the course of this bill. One of them comes from Senator Rick Scott, a Republican from Florida, that would change how much the federal government contributes to Medicaid expansion in states across the country. He believes that that number needs to be reduced. Right now, it is 90 percent that the federal government provides. And that is something that certainly could become problematic for Republicans and moderates in the chamber who believe that the Medicaid cuts already may be too steep. It could also be a big problem if this bill passes and goes back over to the house of representatives.

There's also another amendment on energy that we are waiting on, potentially, that could have a big impact here.

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There are concerns about an excise tax that was added to this bill at the 11th hour. That is something that many senators I talked to in the last 45 minutes say that they want to repeal as part of this, what happens if those amendments pass? What happens if they don't pass? To John Thune's vote count, as you noted, he can only afford to lose three Republicans. We already know right now of two Republicans who are hard no, Senator Thom Tillis of North Carolina, Senator Rand Paul of the state of Kentucky.

This is still very much a live exercise on Capitol Hill. And every single Republican I talked to in the last 30 minutes has made clear they don't think they are anywhere close to having a final vote on this. In the moment, or any time before the sun goes down. It's very likely this stretches into the early hours of the morning, perhaps even later -- Brianna.

KEILAR: All right. We'll be watching. Lauren Fox, thank you for that.

Kristen Holmes is OUTFRONT at the White House.

Kristen, what's the latest that you're learning about Trump's thinking on the bill?

KRISTEN HOLMES, CNN SENIOR WHITE HOUSE CORRESPONDENT: Well, Brianna, as you said, we'll be watching. The White House is watching incredibly closely as well. I've talked to a number of administration officials who right now, they say, they still like their odds. They are watching exactly what we are, but they are having a lot of conversations behind the scenes.

We know President Trump himself has been working the phones. He's been talking to congressional leadership. We also know it's been a full court press from the White House. They have had all administration officials calling who they know, calling the senators to talk through things specifically. Now, there are some votes that they never thought they were going to get.

I remember speaking to someone a month ago about Rand Paul, the senator from Kentucky, and they said they thought it was highly unlikely that he was ever going to come around. So those things are things that they have been preparing for. But as this goes on, as the time gets longer and longer, we're going to be checking in with them to see if any of this has shifted, if their mentality has shifted.

And one thing, Brianna, you've got to keep in mind that there is a reason for their confidence every single time so far that Donald Trump has tried to push something through Congress, he has been able to do it even when there have been detractors and people who do not want this bill or any bill, certain bill to pass. So that's where their confidence is coming from. We've heard him kind of level some veiled threats at certain people saying you have to get reelected, but we'll see what happens in the long run here.

KEILAR: He is quite the arm twister.

Kristen Holmes, thank you so much. Live for us from the North Lawn.

Everyone is with me now.

Congressman Dent, to you first. One of the president's top pollsters told "Politico" that if the Senate doesn't go back to the House's original version on Medicaid, which has fewer cuts, they really are risking backlash from voters.

How will these cuts hit Trump's base? And how do you think that might play politically?

CHARLIE DENT (R), FORMER U.S. REPRESENTATIVE: Well, first, the politics of Medicaid have changed a lot in recent years, where many Republicans and people who call themselves MAGA voters are on Medicaid. And so right now, Medicaid is really, I think, the key issue in this race or in this in this debate, I should say.

Republicans know they are very vulnerable here, paring cuts to health assistance to Medicaid and food assistance through snap. And combining that with tax cuts that largely benefit people on the higher end of the income scale, is proving to be a toxic political mix for them.

And the challenge that Republicans face, too, is that you have Republicans in both chambers who want more cuts to Medicaid, and also those in the competitive swing districts who want fewer cuts to Medicaid. And they are very vulnerable to defeat by Democrats.

So, Trump's bullying or threatening of these members, particularly House members in those marginal districts, you know, isn't going to do a whole lot of good. He'll be able to threaten and bully these members in safe districts who will ultimately come around. But a lot of members are being asked to, you know, walk the plank or support the MAGA base.

KEILAR: Kate, it's clear -- it's clear, Kate, that Democrats really sense that vulnerability that Charlie is talking about there. Are they prepared, though, to really capitalize on this much the way the Republicans did in 2010 around Obamacare?

KATE BEDINGFIELD, CNN POLITICAL COMMENTATOR: Well, I think so, because if you think about the lines of attack that have been effective against Trump since he came on the scene now a decade ago, this attack on his efforts to take health care away from people is actually one of the lines of attack that's been the most effective. If you think about the midterms in 2018, when his efforts to overturn the Affordable Care Act were a huge piece of that campaign and a huge piece of the reason that Democrats had such a successful midterm in his first administration.

So, I think Democrats have seen that this line of attack is effective. I think Democrats have also been kind of struggling to find an argument to coalesce behind. I think this is one that Democrats who represent some of the most progressive districts in the country, and Democrats who represent moderate swing districts, can all agree that there are a lot of teeth to this attack, and it's one that can be effective.

So, this may be an opportunity for Democrats to really kind of, you know, to sing with one voice, to shout with one voice, if you will, which they badly need.

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They need that organizing principle. And I think this is a place where they might find it.

KEILAR: Philip, how do you think that Trump is politically playing his landmark bill through this process right now? And, you know, if it does pass, as it seems likely to and there are these Medicaid cuts, can he just blame it away?

PHILIP BUMP, NATIONAL CORRESPONDENT, THE WASHINGTON POST: Well, that's sort of the key question of the Donald Trump era, right? It seems so far. And we're ten years in at this point, that he's largely been able to do that. We've -- there's been great reporting from Media Matters, for example, that points out that Fox News is barely covering this.

Polling shows the more people hear about the bill, the less they like it. And so, a lot of his allies simply aren't talking about it. And that provides this cushion of support among his supporters on the right who aren't going to be willing to say, oh, look, look what the Republicans did. And they made things worse for us, that they will find someone else to blame.

Now, of course, it's easy to be cynical, and maybe that's not the dynamic that will unfold here. But if Americans are under the perception that things got worse and are convinced that Donald Trump is never going to have done anything, that to have made anything worse, then it's going to, it's hard to see how he's going to pay any cost, which I think is why the Elon Musk stuff is interesting. If he were to seize upon Medicaid as opposed to clean energy, I think there might be some traction because that's a fissure on the right that is potentially exploitable.

But, you know, Elon Musk sort of does what Elon Musk wants to do.

KEILAR: He certainly does.

Congressman, you've seen the attacks from President Trump on Thom Tillis for voting against the bill. He'd threatened to primary him. Then Tillis announced he won't seek reelection.

I know also that, you know, Congressman Don Bacon personally. He just announced he's also retiring. He's one of only three Republicans who held to hold a seat in a district that Vice President Harris won.

I want to listen to part of what he said tonight on CNN.

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REP. DON BACON (R-NE): It's much better when our party is unified. And you can see it today, you know, attacking Senator Tillis isn't helpful. And -- but we -- when you're trying -- when you're in a district that's a third Republican, a third Democrat, a third independent, a unified base, or unified your own team helps win those elections.

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DENT: Congressman, what is the danger to the Republican Party of losing people like Bacon and Tillis?

DENT: Well, it means that the center of Congress will continue to erode and diminish. And unfortunately, too many folks who represented very marginal swing districts like he did, like I did, you know, we were the unicorns in Congress. You know, we were the ones who had to explain that simply keeping your base together wasn't enough to win an election. Don Bacon understands that. Thom Tillis understands that. Unfortunately, a lot of the members do not understand that because they don't feel those pressures. All they simply have to do is keep their bases together.

People like Don Bacon have a strong worldview. He was base commander at Ramstein Air Base. He has strong views on things like Ukraine and on trade that don't necessarily align with the MAGA view, and there just seems to be a lack of tolerance of, you know, heterodox thinking within the party that there's an expectation of conformity on so many issues.

And frankly, the truth is similar on the Democratic side. Theres, you know, they drove Joe Manchin and Kyrsten Sinema out of the party because they were heterodox on some things. But that's where we are in this country. And it's really sad because, as I said, the center is collapsing and were going to have more of this, you know, sharp partisan divides within the congress and vitriolic debates like we're having now.

KEILAR: Philip, what is the state of the GOP as you watch folks like Bacon and Tillis bow out?

BUMP: I mean, we just we see this continual consolidation around MAGA- ism, right? And we saw this in the first term to people like Jeff Flake of Arizona were sort of run out of the party for running afoul of Donald Trump. We see this these occasions in which Republicans decide to buck Trump and, you know, pay an immediate cost, with Donald Trump going after them, some of them decide they're not going to run for reelection.

You know, it's not always the case that there is a cost to be paid. Donald Trump and Elon Musk both overstate their ability to win these elections. Trump can make a better claim to it than Musk. But, you know, we see this having happened over the course of the past

decade or so. And the result is that we have a Republican Party, which has gotten continuously and continuously more ideological. I actually looked at research a month or two ago that showed that over the course of the past 50 years or so, Democrats who are closer to the middle have not gotten more ideological, but those who are from districts that have bigger margins have. Republicans, however, have gotten more ideological across the board. And I think Donald Trump is hastening that effect.

KEILAR: Kate, I want to ask you about this Elon Musk post I mentioned earlier. There have been a few, but where he says we live in a one- party country and quote, "Our country needs an alternative to the Democrat-Republican uniparty so that the people actually have a voice."

What do you think?

BEDINGFIELD: Well, I would argue people do have a voice in the Democratic Party.

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But no, I don't think that somebody who is a billionaire, one of the richest people on earth, even if he's currently advocating against a bill that I agree should be defeated for a number of reasons. I don't think that that's -- I don't think we want our political system run that way, where somebody gets to essentially dictate that were going to -- that he's going to create a party that aligns with his beliefs. I mean, I think that the influence of money there and the correlation between money and power that Elon Musk represents, that's dangerous, too.

And I think just to piggyback on the conversation you were just having, I think the other impact that that both parties, particularly the Republican Party in the era of Trump becoming more extreme, but across the board, this idea that moderates in both parties cant remain in Congress, I mean, it has a it has a long term and a sort of bigger impact as well, which is that congress becomes less and less functional and people continue to lose faith in their government. And we've seen that erosion over the last decade. And that's a really dangerous thing.

KEILAR: Kate Bedingfield, Philip Bump, Charlie Dent, thank you to all of you. Really appreciate the conversation.

DENT: Thank you.

KEILAR: OUTFRONT next, satellite images showing this new activity at one of Iran's nuclear sites as a new report reveals what Iranian officials are saying privately about the damage from the U.S. strikes.

Plus, a chilling new image tonight of the gunman, who police say set a fire and then killed two responding firefighters.

And a surprising development in the Sean "Diddy" Combs trial. Why? The jury says they're concerned one juror can't follow the judges' orders.

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KEILAR: Breaking news Iran warning it will show no restraint if Israel launches another attack and that it is ready to respond with extremely lethal strikes. Iran's ambassador to the U.N. also vowing his country will never stop enriching uranium. We're also seeing brand new satellite images of the Fordow nuclear enrichment plant that shows ongoing activity by ventilation shafts and holes caused by the U.S. bunker buster bombs, including excavation equipment and personnel above the underground complex.

We can also see a crane that appears to be operating near one of the entrances. These new images emerging as the head of the U.N. nuclear watchdog, warns the strikes did not destroy the facility and that Iran could resume uranium enrichment within a matter of months.

OUTFRONT now, Ernest Moniz, he was the energy secretary under President Obama and a key negotiator in the Iran nuclear deal during Obama's presidency.

Secretary, what if anything do these new satellite images say to you about the condition of the Fordow plant after the U.S. strikes there, and what Iran may be doing now?

ERNEST MONIZ, FORMER U.S. ENERGY SECRETARY UNDER OBAMA: Well, I think it's premature to conclude very much from this. Clearly, they need to come in and clean up the entrances to all the tunnels, make sure the circulation, the air is being circulated inside before they go in. I think what's very important and what would be the beginning of understanding what happened, is if the international inspectors are allowed to see any work they are doing on the centrifuges, no matter what condition they're in, destroyed or partially damaged or undamaged, it's important that we start reestablishing a continuity of knowledge which was lost.

The head of the agency has admitted that we don't know where a lot of materials are. We don't know what they have in terms of centrifuges and materials in covert sites. But I think this this cleanup is the first step for the Iranians to have access underground. And certainly, the full damage assessment remains to be done.

I do want to add one point, however, and I said it previously, I think, on this program that even if all the centrifuges in fordo are damaged, we shouldn't take comfort. The facility might be damaged or destroyed. But the nuclear weapons program has not been destroyed.

KEILAR: President Trump is continuing to insist the Fordow plant was obliterated, and that Iran's nuclear program was taken out, and also rejecting widespread belief that Iran moved its highly enriched uranium out beforehand.

Let's listen.

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DONALD TRUMP, PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES: It was obliterated like nobody's ever seen before. You know, they moved themselves. They were all trying to live. They didn't move anything. They didn't think it was going to be actually a doable what we did.

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KEILAR: We should note, secretary, that members of Congress have the impression from their briefings that that highly enriched uranium still exists. What is the danger of the president rejecting that assessment?

MONIZ: Well, clearly, if one does not recognize the facts, one can be led to some bad decisions. What he said is true, that there's never been a strike like this one using 12 buster bunker busters on Fordow. His statement is absolutely correct that the military execution seems to have been flawless.

But as I have said before, no military analyst ever said that bunker busters would clearly obliterate Fordow. We don't know yet. It seems very unlikely that it was obliterated. But as I said, the nuclear weapons program will be there anyway, and a major part of it is the 60 percent enriched uranium the president has previously said that it would be very hard to move.

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Well, technically it would be very easy to move. Four hundred kilograms is not a lot of material. Clearly, if it were being moved very openly now, it could be subject to a new attack. But to move that amount of material is simple. I would be shocked if the Iranians did not move all or most of that material to some other location that we don't know currently.

And if they are in possession of 400 kilograms of that material, they are actually fairly close to a nuclear weapon today, maybe a bit further than they were before the military strikes, but not that much further.

KEILAR: The U.N.'s nuclear watchdog says the strikes didn't cause total damage to the facility. "The Washington Post" reported internal communications between senior Iranian officials suggest that Tehran believes the U.S. strike strikes caused significantly less damage than expected, which also aligns with previous CNN reporting.

As someone who negotiated --

MONIZ: Wel, I don't know, of course, what those Iranian conversations were.

KEILAR: Sure.

MONIZ: If they were staged or not, for example.

KEILAR: Well, that's a good point. MONIZ: I think until we have a --

KEILAR: But let me ask you --

MONIZ: -- until -- we have a full damage assessment.

KEILAR: But let me ask you, is someone is someone who negotiated with Iran, if that were to be true, how much could Iran use that for leverage in future talks with the Trump administration and maybe speak to, as you said, is that something that is staged? Why that may be the case?

MONIZ: Well, you know, frankly, if I were the Iranians and asked what happened to that material, I would say it was all blown up, whether it was or not. And unfortunately, I think we don't really know that, and I think we have to assume that it was all moved and is available.

Another important point, and it's been made by the only PhD physicist in Congress, Congressman Foster, from Illinois that there's also a lot of misconception that Iran would need to further enrich that material to so-called weapons grade status when in reality, they could use that material at 60 percent, just as is for a crude, inefficient, but a -- but a real nuclear weapon.

So again, we have to assume that that nuclear weapons program is still quite capable. And I think the real job now is obviously we keep watching with all of our tools, satellites and the like, but I think we need to move as quickly as possible. And I think the president would support this to a diplomatic solution that provides the confidence that we need, and the Israelis need, and the Saudis need, and the Europeans need, that Iran is not building a nuclear weapon while also providing Iran and its Gulf neighbors the opportunities for a peaceful nuclear program with a secure supply of fuel.

We want them to use nuclear power. We want them to use medical isotopes to treat cancer, et cetera. We don't want them to move towards a nuclear weapon. And frankly, I would say, they way overplayed their hand by reaching 400 kilograms. That's a lot of 60 percent enriched uranium, enough to make between 5 and 10 bombs, depending on how they treat it.

I think -- I think they were they were they were taunting the rest of the world. Wise or unwise, the fact is, they paid for it.

KEILAR: Secretary Moniz, great to have you tonight. Thank you so much.

MONIZ: Thank you. Brianna.

KEILAR: OUTFRONT next, breaking news, a major update tonight in the case of the 30-year-old who is accused of stabbing four University of Idaho students to death. What he's doing to avoid trial.

Plus, a special report on the young influencers who now have a direct line to those making important health decisions under RFK, Jr.

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) REPORTER: You have the ear of some of the people who are, like making the biggest decisions for the whole country.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Yeah.

REPORTER: What's that like?

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: It's crazy.

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KEILAR: Breaking news, the gunman who ambushed and killed two firefighters wanted to be a firefighter himself. That is just one of several stunning new details about the suspect, 20-year-old Wess Roley.

Authorities revealing they have not recovered a manifesto or determined a motive, but that the 20-year-old suspect did talk to those firefighters before opening fire.

Nick Watt is OUTFRONT.

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UNIDENTIFIED MALE: There's an active shooter zone! They're shot. BC3s is down, BC1 is down. Everybody's shot up here.

NICK WATT, CNN NATIONAL CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): On a routine brush fire call on a sunny afternoon --

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: -- battalion chiefs, gunshot wounds, multiple gunshot wounds. It's clear to me that this fire was intentionally to draw us in.

WATT: Let authorities say by 20-year-old Wess Roley, who we're told talked to firefighters when they first arrived on scene.

SHERIFF BOB NORRIS, KOOTENAI COUNTY, IDAHO: Here's some of his social media postings that were recently removed.

WATT: An Instagram reel of the suspect, apparently armed and camouflaged, set to a song called "Hunter".

NORRIS: This was a total ambush. These firefighters did not have a chance. We did have reports that he was shooting at first responders via a tree.

WATT: Two firefighters killed, a third injured, fighting for his life.

BEN HECTOR, FIREFIGHTER: We're friends and coworkers and he's a -- he's a great guy.

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We haven't lost a member in the line of duty for a very long time.

WATT: For hours, around 300 law enforcement personnel hunted the gunman or gunmen. They didn't know which shots were fired.

NORRIS: We had a cell phone activation. We honed in on that cell phone, and we saw that there was a male appeared to be deceased with a weapon nearby. We believe that there was only one shooter.

WATT: Authorities now believe the suspect died by suicide. His grandfather told CNN he wanted to be a fireman. He was doing tree work and he wanted to be a fireman in the forest.

NORRIS: We don't know if there's a nexus to that desire and what happened.

WATT: Coeur d'Alene now in mourning, paying tribute to two of their own killed in what city leaders are calling a senseless tragedy.

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WATT (on camera): And we have just learned, Brianna, the names of the men who were killed. Frank Harwood, who was the Kootenai County fire and rescue chief. He was 42 years old, married with a couple of kids, also killed. The Coeur d'Alene fire department battalion chief John Morrison, injured. An engineer, Dave Tisdale, from that same department, Tisdale has undergone two surgeries and is still in critical condition.

Now, as for the suspect, well, his family is now cooperating with officials. They send their heartfelt condolences to everybody impacted, and they say, quote, "We do not understand why this happened" -- Brianna.

KEILAR: Nick Watt, thank you for that report.

And OUTFRONT now, Steve Moore, he spent 25 years in the FBI, including as a supervising special agent leading high profile criminal investigations.

Steve, as I said, police have not recovered any manifesto. And the suspect's grandfather said his grandson actually wanted to be a firefighter. What do you make of that? What does that tell you?

STEVE MOORE, CNN LAW ENFORCEMENT CONTRIBUTOR: Well, first of all, the lack of a manifesto tells me, or at least indicates to me that this was not a political motivation. This was not a ideological motivation. This was distinctly personal.

And to me, the totality -- totality of the circumstances leads me to believe that what we have here is a failing human being. He was moving from family member to family member home. Last one that I read and I can't confirm it was that he was living with his grandmother. That's not uncommon.

You go right to the last person who will tolerate you. And I believe that this person was just collapsing on the inside.

KEILAR: So, I mean, police say he had no criminal history. He had only minor interactions with police. The grandfather said the suspect was not a loner, that he had loving family and friends.

What do you make of that? And when you take that into account, how hard is it to maybe prevent a crime like this?

MOORE: Well, the fact that he wasn't a loner doesn't really move the needle to me. For me very much, because people who are family members who have a successful group of friends often have a mental illness that that presents itself or their life can collapse around them. And you don't know and they don't know what they're going to do when that happens.

The problem is that even though you have all these people who we've seen in the past who've had their lives collapse around them and they become shooters. Yeah, they've all had their lives collapsed. But all the people in totality who have had their lives collapse around them don't become shooters. You're talking maybe less than 1 percent. And so, it's really hard to predict.

KEILAR: Yeah. Steve Moore, thank you so much.

And we do also have some more breaking news. CNN just confirming that the accused killer in the murder of those four University of Idaho students has agreed to a plea deal. Bryan Kohberger was expected, expected to go on trial just weeks from now, and faced the death penalty if convicted. Kohberger had previously pleaded not guilty in the quadruple murder case.

Let's go right to Jean Casarez, who has been following this case from the very beginning.

Jean, what happens now that Kohberger has reached this plea deal?

JEAN CASAREZ, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Well, we have confirmed that he has reached this deal, as you're saying. But now he will have to accept the deal. And so, at this point, there is a hearing set for Wednesday in Idaho, where he will be presented with the deal, and it would be to plead guilty to first degree murder for the four victims in this case, Kaylee Goncalves, Maddie Mogen, Xana Kernodle, Ethan Chapin, and he would plead -- there's also a burglary charge.

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And he would plead guilty to that. He must agree to that, that it is his own free will that is doing that.

But we have been speaking with Shannon Gray, who is the attorney representing the Goncalves family. There is another aspect to this. They're furious. They say it was out of the blue. They didn't know it was happening. And now they want all the families to get to court in Idaho, in Boise, where this trial was set to begin in just weeks in two days. And that's being very difficult for them. So, you know, when it comes

to victims, victims don't have the last word. But victims really normally are very, very much considered in what is going to happen during the pendency of a trial, more or less a death penalty trial like this. But the evidence had been degrading for Kohberger the defenses he wanted to assert were going away one by one.

What he was left with. He didn't have alibi. He didn't have an alternate perpetrator. He was left with really cross-examining witnesses with for reasonable doubt. And that's tough when you have DNA that conclusively has a statistical match to Bryan Kohberger on a knife sheath that is next to the body of Maddie Mogen.

KEILAR: Yeah. Jean Casarez, thank you so much. Big news there.

And OUTFRONT next, when it comes to making America healthy again, meet a young group of women who are becoming the go to voices of RFK Jr.'s movement.

Plus, a mystery over why the jury in the Sean "Diddy" Combs trial says they're concerned about one of their fellow jurors.

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KEILAR: Tonight, one of the world's largest yogurt companies, now reviewing its ingredients as part of Robert F. Kennedy Jr.'s Make America Healthy Again initiative. The CEO of that company, which owns brands like Yoplait, telling Bloomberg, quote, there's more of a groundswell with younger and younger consumers, a group seizing on Kennedys push for healthier foods.

Meena Duerson is OUTFRONT.

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LEXI VRACHALUS, FOUNDER, MAHA GIRLS: Shall we say, together or say, I say like real food.

GRACE PRICE, FOUNDER, MAHA GIRLS: We try to say it together, in sync.

VRACHALUS: Okay. So, we're going to -- we're going to walk.

PRICE & VRACHALUS: Real food, packaged snack items.

VRACHALUS: Okay. The first try. That's good.

PRICE: Great.

MEENA DUERSON, CNN CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): Grace Price and Lexi Vrachalus with a little assist from Lexi's mom are filming content for their new social media brand.

VRACHALUS: We like it.

PRICE: I think it's cute.

If you've ever struggled with depression, anxiety, we created this account on how to live healthy in a world where we're told lies about our bodies. Please join the MAHA Girls movement today.

DUERSON: MAHA is for Make America Healthy Again, the tagline RFK Jr. coined last year. The girls are trying to bring the movement to a younger demographic.

VRACHALUS: And they have no added sugar or seed oils.

DUERSON: How old are you guys?

VRACHALUS: Nineteen.

PRICE: We're both 19.

Girls our age are looking for answers. They have this opportunity to take ownership of their health, or they're going to fall victim to big pharma and big food. I was like, what if we like, actually did a girl group but it's for health?

DUERSON: Price discovered and recruited Vrachalus from her grocery store videos, which have landed her millions of views and over 160,000 Instagram followers.

VRACHALUS: Cookies, buy or bye?

DUERSON: They met up in Austin last month at the launch of a wellness foundation for college students.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: And if you all have not met the MAHA girls, wow!

DUERSON: It was a chance to mix with some of MAHA's biggest stars.

Vani Hari, the food babe.

VANI HARI, "THE FOOD BABE": When you try to change the food industry, they're going to unleash a gantlet of attacks to try to stop your voice.

DUERSON: RFK right hand man Calley Means whose sister is Trump's pick for surgeon general.

CALLEY MEANS, SPECIAL GOVERNMENT EMPLOYEE, DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH AND HUMAN SERVICES: The president of the United States said our food is toxic and we're going to figure out why. And I do not give a shit whether the lobbyists get mad about that or not.

DUERSON: And longtime RFK ally Del Bigtree.

DEL BIGTREE, FORMER CEO, MAHA ALLIANCE: We're building an army. We're starting a revolution. And we're going to change the world.

DUERSON: Price was already in the MAHA inner circle. She's grammed from the inauguration, the Senate, and the White House. It's kind of wild you have the ear of some of the people who are,

like, making the biggest decisions for the whole country.

PRICE: Yeah.

DUERSON: What's that like?

PRICE: It's crazy. At the White House and all of these different events, it's all adults. We're the only 19-year-olds there. We literally are.

So, what's the deal with that? Why is this not cool? Why is there not a Coachella for healthy food?

DUERSON: Much of the guidance the girls share is backed by widely accepted science. Numerous studies have linked ultra processed foods to diseases and health issues, but some MAHA talking points --

PRICE: So, this toothpaste is not only fluoride and paraben free --

DUERSON: Like the dangers of fluoride and seed oils are less clear cut and have sparked pushback from the mainstream medical community. Neither teen is a medical professional. Price self-produced a documentary about cancer, and Vrachalus is a certified health coach.

PRICE: We'll be like, oh, are we really supposed to listen to this 19 year old? And I'm not trying to claim any credentials. I'm just trying to bring you along with me on my learning journey.

VRACHALUS: Everyone is so bio individuality -- individual. So I think that everyone should take their information, do your own self experimenting and see what works for you.

DUERSON: Where do you guys get your information?

VRACHALUS: I started researching ingredients about 5 or 6 years ago. I'm constantly listening to podcasts.

PRICE: I was on PubMed, ScienceDirect. There are studies in plain sight that you can find on Google, or you can use ChatGPT if that's your main search engine. To find the link to this article, like the information is there on the Internet, but you do have to search.

DUERSON: So how do you deal with misinformation?

PRICE: We are the number one B.S. detectors because our generation -- I mean, we get fed this stuff all day. And if you're not being authentic with your audience, it's something that we can tell instantly.

ROBERT F. KENNEDY, JR., HHS SECRETARY: I'm honored to present you the MAHA report.

DUERSON: The White House released its official MAHA report in May, laying out the administrations priorities for addressing chronic health problems in children. Shortly after our interview, news broke that a number of errors had been discovered in the report, including studies that had been misrepresented or did not exist.

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The White House chalked up the issues, to quote minor citation and formatting errors, and has since updated the report. We reached out to the girls, but they did not respond.

PRICE: This is not a political issue. We're here because our generation is the number one target of these big food companies, and we're trying to stand up to them.

DUERSON: But the phrase MAHA is inherently political.

PRICE: Of course. And I agree that MAHA, it is unfortunate that it's so associated with the other thing, but what MAHA has done is given voices to people in the health space. They haven't been a part of the mainstream health message, and it makes no sense to not use that incredible traction in our own branding.

VRACHALUS: We are taste-testing some ketones.

We all need real food. It's -- I don't think that it's that complicated or that it should be taken so controversial.

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DUERSON (on camera): And, you know, these girls for now are really hyper focused on food and nutrition. They're not really engaging with the vaccine conversations as part of their MAHA agenda, but they're focused on raising awareness among their peers about what they see as the dangers of ultra processed foods.

And, you know, that extends to legislative advocacy, including nutrition and school lunches and restricting soda from SNAP, things like that -- Brianna.

KEILAR: Meena Duerson, great report. Thank you so much.

Next, the jury in the Sean "Diddy" Combs trial expressing concerns tonight about one of their own.

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KEILAR: Tensions high as the first day of jury deliberations in the Sean "Diddy" Combs trial hit a major snag. A note today from the jury reading, quote, we have a juror number 25, who we are concerned cannot follow your honor's instructions. The judge telling them to continue deliberating whether Diddy is guilty of three federal charges, including sex trafficking. The second day of jury deliberations set to resume in the morning.

It is a case that has gripped the world and those covering it online are suddenly finding themselves with a massive fan base.

Brynn Gingras is OUTFRONT.

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UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: We are down here at the Diddy trial.

BRYNN GINGRAS, CNN CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): Meet Ms. Pleasant, aka maker of Da Pop Off Show on YouTube.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: We're going to do a fit check.

GINGRAS: She's one of nearly a dozen live streamers you'll find outside the federal courthouse in New York City. While inside, Sean "Diddy" Combs sits on trial, facing life behind bars.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Hey. What's up? What's up? It's your girl, Nique.

GINGRAS: Rain or shine. Here for the past eight weeks.

What compels you to actually be here every day?

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: I'm nosy. It has celebrity. It has sex, it has crime. It has drugs.

TESS HARPER, LIVE STREAMER: Oh, you look nice today. Mama, could you step in?

GINGRAS: How many followers did you have at the start of this? And versus how many you have now?

HARPER: I had about maybe like 5,000 or so. Right now, I got about 16,000. So, I gained about maybe like 11,000 or so.

GINGRAS: That's pretty good. Many have amassed a huge following.

You just read these comments. What's going on?

HARPER: I'm reading the comments. I'm interacting with the people.

GINGRAS: By giving unedited access to the chaos surrounding the courthouse.

HARPER: When you see Barney, just do one of these.

GINGRAS: Are you live streaming?

HARPER: Yeah. We're live, man. We're all live.

GINGRAS: Some streamers read courtroom transcripts word for word.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: He kept his money. He kept his wallet.

GINGRAS: This man reads off his own handwritten notes. Others chase down witnesses and Combs family members.

HARPER: Just now, I just had to run when the girls came. So, I'm also doing the journalism. We're doing that. But then I'm doing the TMZ, and I'm getting happy feet sliding in for the count to catch my little footage.

GINGRAS: So you're capturing everything.

HARPER: I'm doing everything.

NNIQUE LECLAIR, LIVE STREAMER: There is a type of way that we can talk to them, that legacy media probably can't really give an opinion. They can't -- you know, we can be like, I wasn't feeling that or I didn't like that. And they feel a relatability.

KEALOAH CONNER, LIVE STREAMER: Oh, you're on live too. Oh, hi.

Multiple batteries, multiple chargers, in case one breaks.

GINGRAS: Yeah.

Kealoha Conner was in marketing before a friend convinced her to step in front of the phone and live stream.

CONNER: Guys, P. Diddy trial update.

First day, I was like, oh, it's not going to be anything, and then boom. Like that first day I peaked at 21 -- 20,000 and some change on people.

GINGRAS: Now she's not looking back.

CONNER: I want to go into journalism now because of all this.

GINGRAS: Are you able to monetize yet on this?

CONNER: Yeah, I was able to monetize on this one day one.

LECLAIR: I do also get people who want to donate. They give cash apps. And on YouTube, there's a thing called super chats. They want to support your journey in any way that they can.

GINGRAS: The trial now, in the hands of jurors with arguably more people tuned in for the verdict than ever before.

HARPER: This is as big as the O.J. trial. We do want to get closure and understand what this case is going to be. You know, I mean, what is it going to wrap up to be.

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GINGRAS (on camera): And that's what everybody is waiting for.

Listen, these streamers really run the spectrum, Brianna, on what they think about P. Diddy. One guy told me that Puff wrote the soundtrack to his college years. Another girl told me she didn't know anything about Sean Combs until she started covering this trial.

And they're actually kind of mixed on what they think the verdict should be. But I got to tell you, one thing is for sure, they believe this is going to be the first of many trials that they want to cover in what they believe is a budding career -- Brianna.

KEILAR: What an ecosystem you captured there outside of that trial.

Brynn Gingras, live outside the courthouse in New York, thank you so much.

And thank you so much for joining us.

"AC360" starts right now.