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ERIN BURNETT, CNN HOST: OUTFRONT next:

Breaking news, investigators find a black glove near Nancy Guthrie's house, according to a new report. We have the pictures and video from the scene from "The New York Post" tonight. All of this as the FBI conducts extensive searches in several areas this evening.

Plus, TMZ's Harvey Levin is here. He's been breaking news on this since the beginning. And TMZ is receiving a new letter tonight from someone claiming to know Guthrie's kidnapper.

And embarrassing drama on Capitol Hill. Pam Bondi insulting lawmakers tonight over Epstein. Demands for her to apologize to the victims sitting just feet away from her.

Let's go OUTFRONT.

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BURNETT: And good evening. I'm Erin Burnett.

And OUTFRONT tonight, we have breaking news in the search for Savannah Guthrie's mother, Nancy. "The New York Post" is just reporting that investigators have found a black glove in an area near Nancy Guthrie's home now, these are images that "The New York Post" took at the scene, which we are just getting from them here on OUTFRONT.

"The Post" reporter who was there and saw this is going to join me in just a moment. She reports that the glove, quote, "resembles the pair worn by the armed perpetrator caught on video". And you'll -- you'll see -- you'll see exactly why.

And you can see clearly in the video recorded by Nancy Guthrie's doorbell camera. The night she disappeared, someone wearing gloves, a mask and carrying a gun. Now, it's not clear if authorities at this moment believe this to be the same glove. But I want to show you the moment recorded by "The Post" when the glove was recovered

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UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Is that a glove? (END VIDEO CLIP)

BURNTT: And then they got those -- they got close ups as well to look at it in detail. But you can see it there, right on the side of the road. And the reporter will tell you just near Nancy Guthrie's home. And this development comes as the FBI says they have been conducting a, quote, extensive search along multiple roadways near the home.

CNN, in fact, saw multiple people in FBI gear walking along the road knocking on doors, talking to neighbors. The Pima County sheriff's department says that they have received nearly 18,000 tips since the day Guthrie was reported missing, more than 4,000 of those calls, they say have come in just the past 24 hours.

And now, tonight, TMZ is reporting it received an email today from someone purporting to know who Nancy Guthrie's kidnapper is. That email then demanded that a single bitcoin, which is worth about $67,000 right now in exchange for the information.

Now, Harvey Levin, founder of TMZ, of course, received that email, and he's going to be our guest in just a few moments with much more on that and news he's breaking this hour.

But first, I want to go to Ed Lavandera because he's on the ground in Tucson.

Ed, so much searching going on there. What are you learning tonight?

ED LAVANDERA, CNN SENIOR NATIONAL CORRESPONDENT: Well, we're seeing this day of searching and recanvassing the area around Nancy Guthrie's home, which comes after a very chaotic night as we saw and heard the news breaking of a subject being taken into custody, but then being released after several hours of questioning. We saw FBI agents returning back here, not just to the street where Nancy Guthrie lives, which we saw a small team of FBI agents combing through the area here as well.

But we've seen it in extended parts of the neighborhood as well as they kind of methodically walk along the edges of the road looking for anything that might have been discarded. Anything that, you know, might have been missed over the course of these searches in the last 11 days. And authorities aren't saying exactly, or talking much about what exactly may or may not have been found.

They're not going to acknowledge much of that at this point, but it's clear that after everything that we saw unfold last night, that that searching and continuing to go back to do that, that kind of just tedious detective work and working the grounds and doing whatever you can to find something in hopes of finding something that might have been missed in the last 11 days, that that's what they're doing.

Even that, as thousands of tips are pouring in more than 24 hours after the release of the video, and still images captured by the doorbell camera next to Nancys front door.

[19:05:03] So, all of that work. But the bottom line is here once again on day 11, Erin, there is no sign of where Nancy Guthrie might be or what her fate might be, and no word on any more suspects or persons of interest that might be wanted, even for just questioning -- Erin.

BURNETT: All right. Ed, thank you very much. It's unbelievable. It's day 11. Thank you, Ed.

OUTFRONT now, "The New York Post" reporter I just mentioned, who was with officials when they found the glove, Georgia Worrell.

And, Georgia, I really appreciate your time so you were there I mean, what can you tell us about the moment that officials found this glove?

GEORGIA WORRELL, NATIONAL NEWS REPORTER, NEW YORK POST: I mean, it all happened so quickly, but basically, a photographer who's here working for "The Post" and I, we were just in the right place at the right time. And we saw a couple of cars just freshly pulled over to the side of the road and officers looking at just at the time, what appeared to be a black object on the side of the road. And as we got closer, we thought it might be a glove.

And then all of a sudden, somebody appeared, one of the FBI agents with a bag, and he put the black object in the bag. It wasn't until later when I saw the high-resolution photos that the photographer had taken, that we did realize that it was a glove.

BURNETT: So, I -- obviously I mean, it sounds like you're coming upon them. Was this sort of just a -- I mean, where -- where were they? Where were you? Was this sort of something that had been abandoned on the side of the road, or how would you describe it?

WORRELL: Yeah, I mean, it had just been discarded on the side of the road. It was actually I mean, if you were just walking past it, you would have seen it. We were about 1.4 miles south from Nancy Guthrie's house, and on Thursday, that's where officers and agents were canvasing so we just happened to be on the road when those agents pulled over and saw that they were looking at something and we just kept following them.

So --

BURNETT: And you got all those high-resolution pictures. So let me ask you me ask you, Georgia, because when you were able to look at those -- I mean, there was actually the subject. When you were able to look at your pictures and compare them to the images that we have all seen in the doorbell camera footage of you know, what appears to be a glove on that person's hand right there.

Did it look to you as you compare the two that it could be the same type of glove?

WORRELL: It does appear that way to me however, I'm no glove expert and we only have those photos. So -- and the sun was kind of glaring off of the glove. So I'm really curious to see what investigators are going to be saying in the next couple of days about them. But yes, I mean, off the bat, it certainly seems that way.

BURNETT: All right. Well, Georgia, thank you very much for sharing what you did see today. I appreciate it.

WORRELL: Thank you, Erin.

BURNETT: All right. Everyone is here with me now.

So, John, you hear Georgia going through what she saw, and then you could see the images because they were able to get her and her photojournalist, with her. The close high-res images. And this is 1.4 miles, she said, from Guthrie's home and you could see literally right along the side of the road. They got it, and it didn't look like it had been sitting there for that long. When they picked it up, it was just sitting on the top of the -- of the scrub.

What does that tell you and what are you hearing?

JOHN MILLER, CNN CHIEF LAW ENFORCEMENT AND INTELLIGENCE ANALYST: Well, it tells me that they found what they were looking for. Now, we don't know if this glove is connected to this crime, but as she points out, and as we can see for ourselves, it is certainly ballpark for the image we see on that video camera as similar enough to be very promising. The point of it is, though is if you're in the middle of an abduction and you know you're in a car with ski masks and gloves and who knows what else, the idea of not being stopped or discarding all of that in one place lends itself towards a scenario where you toss this one out the window here, you toss the other glove, you know, two miles after that, you toss the ski mask here.

The ski mask is the kind of thing that an abductor might have kept so that when they get to wherever the holding place was, the victim couldn't see their face. On the other hand, its not the kind of thing you want to get stopped with. So, I like the theory of doing that grid search down the road and saying what could have been tossed from a car because this is promising

BURNETT: Right. Now, of course we're on day 11, Wally, which I think, you know, some would say gosh, where are we on day 11? And this is happening now. But I mean, this case has confounded everyone. So, you obviously are a hostage negotiator. So, you've been in these situations also as a homicide detective.

What could investigators potentially learn from a glove, if this is the glove? We don't know if it is, but if it is, how much could you learn from it?

WALLACE ZEINS, FORMER NYPD HOSTAGE NEGOTIATOR AND HOMICIDE DETECTIVE: Oh, boy. This is -- this is such a great piece of evidence. When I say great piece of evidence, it means that we go with the fact that it is the glove until we can prove differently.

But from that glove, there's so much in Quantico with the forensic team can get. For instance, they can get hair and fibers from the inside, they can get DNA, they can get cells, they can find out even the lot and block number where that material was made. It's an unbelievable piece of evidence. They may not have the perp on

this one, but they will find out where that glove came.

BURNETT: They can get a fingerprint from the inside?

ZEINS: It'-s kind of hard but stranger things have happened.

BURNETT: So, you know, Bob Krygier, as were looking at a side by side of those two images, obviously, these teams, these are FBI that were picking that glove up today. But we know swat teams are out there nonstop. Youve just retired from one in Pima County just days ago. So, when we watch them in the case of this glove, right, they're going this side of the road. So, it's sort of, you know, rocks and some dust. And then there's obviously the cacti and the shrub, which maybe from a distance don't look dense, but when you're in them certainly feel that way.

So, knowing the area as well as you do, what do you think when you see a glove like this being picked up and a grid search now going so carefully down the road?

BOB KRYGIER, RETIRED SWAT OFFICER: Well, I think it's an excellent job by the investigators to have expanded their search to be a mile and a half away from the location and continue looking for any piece of evidence. The terrain around Tucson, even in Nancy's neighborhood, where we're at now, is its rough. You know I've worked it for 30 years and it's easy to miss things.

So, you know, if they hadn't searched that area, they had and it showed up if nothing else, it's another lead to follow up on. But with the terrain, with the desert, with the brush, like you said, things can be missed. And that's, I'm sure, why investigators have continued to come back to the area and continue to go over some of the same places that they had been to in the past.

BURNETT: Yeah and, you know, obviously when you think about just the vastness of the space you're looking at on the one hand you could say, gosh, we're 11 days in. They've just picked this up. On another, it is a needle in a haystack. And they finally found this.

Casey Jordan, as a criminologist, when you see the glove that that was found on the side of the road, which may or may not have anything to do with the one in the images from the doorbell camera, you got to look at the doorbell, camera images. And what do you notice about the gloves in that video?

CASEY JORDAN, CRIMINOLOGIST, BEHAVIORAL ANALYST: Well, there are thick on the hands and there's a lot of speculation that the guy on the porch is wearing two sets of gloves. He's doubled up his gloves, and that might be challenging, because if this glove did belong to the guy on the porch and he cast it out of a car window or on foot into the brush, there may not be any skin cells or DNA. If he had a glove on underneath it, right?

So, there's a lot going on here. But I've got to say that does just at first pass seem to match. So, this is, as Wally Zeins says, an incredible piece of evidence. And these neoprene gloves are relatively expensive for tradesmen. They don't just, you know wear them once and cast them away. They usually wear them until they're worn out.

So the idea that it is just cast on the side of the road, you know, in full view, I'm surprised it wasn't found before really does kind of highlight. We are guardedly hopeful that this will track back to the guy on the porch. This is an amazing find today.

ZEINS: You know --

BURNETT: Yeah, go ahead, Wally.

ZEINS: I just want to say one thing. One of the things that was so grateful at Quantico with their crime scene and their forensic unit is they have botanists that work there, and they can actually tell if there's any foliage on that glove from the area where, remember, he took the foliage --

BURNETT: He grabbed the flowers and stick in front of the camera.

ZEINS: And they can actually tell the difference between a poison ivy and rose leaf. But they're that excellent. They're that meticulous.

BURNETT: Wow. So, John, you know, the context here, of course, is that 24 hours ago, you know, there were people at the FBI who thought this was done. You know, they had their guy, they had their -- it was -- this -- that this was it, 100 percent wrapped up. And then they didn't, okay?

So, what -- where are we now? Right? Did they have a whole lot of other people or was it sort of. Okay we got this guy all eggs in one basket, everybody's there. And now, all of a sudden, you're scrambling.

MILLER: So, I wouldn't say that. And I say that based on my conversations with people around the case, yesterday was we developed this guy as a lead before the video was released. We compared him to the video. He fits ballpark for the build.

BURNETT: And he did. He did. Yeah.

MILLER: We established probable cause, which they didn't go into in detail and a judge read that and gave us a search warrant for the car in the house. But when I pressed on, is this person a suspect? They were crystal clear. And we said this a lot on the air last night.

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This is someone who's being detained for questioning only.

It was a signal. It was a tell that we don't know if we're going to charge this guy, but we know we need to talk to him because of those elements. And I think when you look at the interview he gave to the media afterwards, if you listen to his mother-in-law last night, they were like, search the house, ask me the questions, didn't lawyer up, answered the questions. BURNETT: Right.

MILLER: So, it's likely he's eliminated. But I also say, there's nothing wrong with that. As Wally would tell you from these cases, suspects will emerge and they'll look great. And your job is to do two things. You go into it the right way. You say, let's prove this guy didn't do it. Can we eliminate him?

BURNETT: Right, if you can't do that.

MILLER: It's better than -- let's try to -- let's try to prove he did do it with what we can find.

BURNETT: So, Casey, how do you see it in terms of where they are right now? I mean, we talked about the tips that have come in. They said, what, 18,000 since this began. But we're on day 11, and they say 4,000 of them came in in just the past 24 hours alone. Obviously, volume is a good thing. If you can potentially get an answer. It's also a real challenge to sift through it.

JORDAN: Absolutely. And 4,000 in one day. Okay. So -- and we saw what happened yesterday. The tip was made in good faith. They explored it in good faith. It didn't pan out. The guy was released. All right?

Expect that to happen a few more times. It's just the way things work. At the same time, the guy on the porch probably has seen this footage and probably is in complete breakdown panic mode right now and probably has changed his behavior.

And that could really bring people who are in his inner circle or who know him into the mindset that I need to make a phone call. So, we need to not just be looking for the eyelashes and the eyebrows and the lips and the mustache and the build and the shoes and the you know, American Eagle fleece. We need to think about somebody whose behavior has changed dramatically, who's making a run for the border, who's trying to get out of town, but you haven't heard from for a week. That's the kind of combination of information.

I know it will be a long slog, but it will work. I'm very confident that they're going to get this guy.

BURNETT: So, Bob, you know, how are the teams on the ground seeing -- I mean, all the -- all the men and women that you've worked with for so many years, obviously, they are -- they're just working day and night to try to get an answer here. How do they feel about the search right now?

KRYGIER: I'm sure they're getting tired, but at the same time, they're ready to go all of them from the detectives, the investigators, the SWAT elements and ready to go mode and wanting to do their best to help the family and help find Nancy. And like everyone said, this is probably going to happen three or four or five or 10 more times.

They're going to follow up on every lead, especially if it involves a person. We're going to get there, check it out, and either confirm or deny that it's viable and just keep working it like they would. And following up on as many of those tips as they can.

BURNETT: You know, Wally, how do you see it? I'm just you know, people, a lot of people, when they talk about this, they say, well, if you look at the Tsarnaev brothers, right? It took -- it took a few days, but they got them.

The Brown shooter, you know, were we often when a story is in the public media lens, we don't see person after person brought in publicly -- at least we're not aware of it, right, as we are in this case.

ZEINS: Well, what's the most important thing is that they have people that they're looking at.

BURNETT: Do you think they do?

ZEINS: Absolutely. They don't throw your eggs in one basket. I'm sure with some of the tips and the many tips that are coming in, some of them equal to each other from different people, that has validity. So, they will go out and do that.

They will do -- like yesterday. You know, when they said the car stopped was made, they, the FBI and the sheriff's office personnel were the ones that were following that car. It wasn't done by some police car stopping that car. So, they knew who they were looking for.

BURNETT: Was under surveillance

ZEINS: And that's exactly what they have right now.

BURNETT: They were on multiple --

ZEINS: Other on multiple other people. Yes. And the name of the game is to catch that individual and have the number one name probable cause to make the arrest.

BURNETT: Right. All right. Thank you all very much.

And next, TMZ receiving a new note and with new news. The sender of that note is not the kidnapper, but claims to know who is. Harvey Levin, founder of TMZ, is here next.

Plus, the FBI tonight searching in Nancy Guthrie's neighborhood. Her neighbor of 11 years joins us to talk about the significance of where agents are searching right now. And lawmakers on both sides ripping into Attorney General pam Bondi over the Epstein files.

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REP. JAMIE RASKIN (D-MD): I told you about that, Attorney General, before you started --

PAM BONDI, ATTORNEY GENERAL: You don't tell me --

RASKIN: Oh, I did tell you because we saw what you did in the Senate.

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BURNETT: Breaking news, TMZ's Harvey Levin has some new reporting on the Nancy Guthrie investigation. Obviously, he's been breaking news from the start and received the initial ransom note for Guthrie. TMZ is now reporting they've received a new note today from someone who said they are not the kidnapper, but they know who the kidnapper is.

And then this individual demanded one bitcoin, which is currently valued at about $67,000 in exchange for the information about the kidnapper.

So, TMZ founder Harvey Levin is now OUTFRONT.

So, Harvey, okay, you got a lot of new information here, but I guess let's just start with this note that you've received. You said they've got a bitcoin address in there different than the one in the original note, obviously because this person is saying they're a different person. You verified that note.

So, what can you tell us? Has -- any payments, activity on this new address? And what about this letter?

HARVEY LEVIN, TMZ FOUNDER: We haven't seen any. We -- the letter essentially says I've tried to get in touch with Savannah's brother and sister, to no avail. And that they sent it to us then, and they said if they want to get the name of the individual who is involved in this kidnapping, send the bitcoin, send -- send -- give us a bitcoin through this address.

And they say time is more than relevant. That's the way it ends. Time is more than relevant. We have sent this on to the FBI and to the sheriff's department. And that's all we have heard.

You know, I was thinking about this doing it this way I'm not sure is a crime.

Now if this is a ruse and they are just trying to get money without having information, then it's a crime. But I'm not sure the letter itself is a crime. What they're saying is, I'm willing to give you information, but I want a bitcoin. I'm not sure that's a crime.

BURNETT: I mean, so when you look at a letter like this, I mean it obviously you could think of it as a ruse. This is a person trying to jump on this and get $67,000 and then give you nothing. I mean, obviously we all can see that, that's possible.

But as you look at it is there anything that stands out to you to suggest that this person does know who the kidnaper is or doesn't know?

LEVIN: No. Honestly, no. The FBI certainly wanted it, as did the sheriff's department. BURNETT: Yeah.

LEVIN: And that's about all I can tell you about it, Erin.

BURNETT: All right. So, I'm also curious, Harvey, how you think about it this way. I mean, I was saying the rough value of a bitcoin, right is $67,000. Now the FBI has a reward of $50,000 for information which would ostensibly be much more difficult to collect obviously. But I guess if whoever sent this note does know who the kidnapper is, you know, how do you kind of think through the logic here as to why they do this, to try to get the 67 as opposed to, you know calling the FBI and doing the right thing and getting 50?

LEVIN: Because there have been cases in the past, I think we've all covered them. Aaron where the reward money is not given to somebody. You would think at first blush is the person who helped solve the crime. Weve seen that before. So, this is, I guess you would say, a bird in the hand, right?

BURNETT: Right, right. I'm just thinking, you know, obviously very different circumstances, but you know, the comment made by the White House about paying out on Maduro, right? And that they would avoid paying that out.

All right. So, you know, last night we were talking about the payment, right? And you had said that there was a payment to the bitcoin account in the original ransom letter, which you received, right? And then that payment came. And then fast and furious, right. They took this individual in who it turned out was not related to this. And that was wrong. But that is fast and furious what led to that.

But nonetheless, the money had gone into that bitcoin account that that you had in that letter. Have you seen anything else going on with that account?

LEVIN: No. But there was just a boatload of information on social media last night that 15 minutes or so after the -- we saw activity in that account. There was another bitcoin account that somebody found where he said that somebody deposited $6 million. And a lot of people were speculating that the $6 million was then -- was actually the ransom money. And that is the correct amount.

So, we did some checking with law enforcement today, and we can tell you that $6 million is unrelated to the Nancy Guthrie case.

BURNETT: So unrelated, even though the amount is six million. That's unrelated?

LEVIN: Yeah. Yes.

BURNETT: Okay. All right. So that's obviously very significant.

Now also, Harvey, you've been talking to your sources. I know about what anybody watching has seen or had conversations about, which is a lot of theories and rumors that are out there about what happened here including things like the car near Nancy Guthrie's home that was towed away by authorities. Nancy Guthrie's family members. What are they telling you?

LEVIN: I spent some time on the phone today on this with law enforcement. And what I can tell you is they have come up with goose eggs. They have looked for 10 days to find surveillance video or something meaningful to help them figure out what car this person used to get there and to escape. And they have not found it yet. Not for lack of trying. And they're still looking.

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But so far, they are stymied. That was a little bit surprising to me, but they have hit a series of dead ends.

BURNETT: Which is pretty incredible to think about it.

You also have -- and this is interesting, Harvey, you know, because we look at the backpack and you know, the reporting tonight, the, you know, "The New York Post" got a picture of FBI agents picking up that glove about a mile from Nancy Guthrie's home. That may or may not be related to the glove that we all saw on the doorbell cam footage.

But you've been trying to figure out who made the glove, the backpack, the gun, the holster, the all of it. Right. Because all of this could say a lot what this person was wearing and where they got it from. So, what are you finding on this?

LEVIN: Here's what I'm finding it just seemed obvious to me that what they were going to do, what law enforcement was going to do, was they were going to track down you know, you know who bought some of these things from a store in the Tucson area because they do believe this person is from that area or Amazon or something like that. So, I have confirmed with law enforcement that is exactly what they're doing and what I'm told.

And I'm going to have to refer to my notes that the three items they were particularly interested in were the backpack, the gloves, and the gun.

So let me talk about the backpack, because what we found this morning was there was -- there were reflective pieces on this backpack and we matched them we believed to this Walmart -- Walmart Ozark trail hiker backpack and they have the same reflective marks on them. And just a little bit ago, KOLD said that law enforcement told them that is indeed the backpack. This Walmart Ozark trail hiker backpack. So, you know, that's something that would be relevant certainly to police, to the FBI to figure out, you know, did somebody buy that, you know, in the last few days? And it could have been something somebody had for a long time.

I think more interesting, Erin, is the gun, because if you look at that gun, it seems like there is a polyester holster on it. Now I don't know that much about firearms, but we've done some digging and what we're told is that type of holster typically carries a revolver. And in this case, it was a semiautomatic handgun. So what occurred to us is that if somebody showed up with an odd sort of weapon in that type of holster, that might have been noticed by somebody, say at a gun range so we've been calling around gun ranges to find out if they saw anybody with that type of holster, just because it was a little bit odd. We had no luck.

But I know authorities are looking at just that. So, these three things the backpack, the gloves and the gun are things that they're particularly interested in. And again, you know, if somebody goes into a Home Depot, say, and they buy one of these items even if they pay cash, they have records of who bought of -- when it was purchased. And then you look at the surveillance video, and you say, who picked it out off the shelf and took it to the cash register and that's a way a lot of crimes are solved. And I know that's one of the things law enforcement is trying to do right now.

BURNETT: Well yeah, I mean, obviously, as you said, you don't know when they bought the -- when they bought the backpack. But obviously, Walmart will cooperate, right? I mean, they can see every single one of those Ozark trailblazer backpacks when they were bought and where they were bought. You know, I mean one of these things could end up being very significant we don't know.

All right. And, Harvey, just one quick thing, just a -- just a triple check here. The account last night that the money was wired into the original one, you haven't seen anything new in that one, right?

LEVIN: No. No, same amount.

BURNETT: Yeah. All right, all right. Well, Harvey, thanks so much. It is always great to talk to you and a lot of new details there. Thanks.

LEVIN: Good talking to you, Erin.

BURNETT: All right. Harvey Levin, founder of TMZ.

And next, FBI agents on the ground. And Nancy Guthrie's neighborhood. Her neighbor of 11 years joins us live on this new search there.

And new details about Savannah Guthrie's siblings who have been by her side.

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SAVANNAH GUTHRIE, NBC "TODAY" HOST: Annie's like the blood going through my veins. She's my sister.

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BURNETT: Breaking news, law enforcement has identified the specific type of backpack worn by the person captured on Nancy Guthrie surveillance camera. That is, according to TMZ founder Harvey Levin, who just shared that with us moments ago. And it comes as FBI agents are searching again near Nancy Guthrie's home. CNN crews saw them this afternoon, specifically the land along the road where her home is located. And as you can see, there's thick brush and cacti along that stretch as you see here

OUTFRONT now is Laura Gargano. She is Nancy Guthrie's neighbor and has lived near Nancys home for 11 years.

Laura, what a bizarre and frightening situation that you and all of your neighbors are living through right now and just to even imagine what you're going through. They're looking, I know around your home. They're talking to neighbors. They're searching the foot -- the foothills in the neighborhood, trying to look for any kind of evidence connected to her disappearance, and the man on that doorbell camera.

What did you notice today, Laura?

LAURA GARGANO, NANCY GUTHRIE'S NEIGHBOR: I noticed this morning. Thank you for inviting me. I noticed this morning when driving around before I had read the reports that there were groups of people around -- on the outskirts of the neighborhood, which I hadn't seen before on the main thoroughfares. We have a thoroughfare to the south of us called river road, and a thoroughfare that goes -- that's a main thoroughfare from the foothills down through university of Arizona and south, called Campbell Avenue.

And I saw groups of people along those areas. So, I assume that they were searchers, though they weren't identified, you know, with any official, you know, jackets FBI or sheriff's department

BURNETT: So I know that you, Laura, there have been the images of Nancy Guthrie roof and that, you know, that there had been a tip from somebody that maybe people had been up there and to go up there and they went and they got retrieved something we don't know exactly. You know, how important that might have been. But that tip was important for them.

And I know that you're the one who told them to do that. You said look at her roof you also said to look at the septic tank. These are really important things and we saw images of them obviously doing exactly as you had suggested. Why did you think it was important to make those specific suggestions?

GARGANO: Well, regarding the roof, I had been talking with a friend of mine who's a very detailed person as well, and we were discussing the situation and, and she said, did you notice the roof? And we both looked at the image and we both agreed that that roof looked recently recoated. Not that I thought there could be something up there, but I hadn't seen them on the roof previously.

And when you're -- I would assume that when you're investigating a case, you want to inspect every inch of that property. So, I was glad to see that they were on the roof the next morning. I assume it was probably because I spoke directly with them about it. Maybe it's a coincidence.

And then I did speak with someone about the septic tank, because I was not sure the FBI agents who were there at that time were aware that we have septic tanks, and there's a big hole in the ground that is usually, like the size of a manhole cover. And I wanted to make sure that they were aware that that existed. And then I saw the image that they searched.

BURNETT: They did --

GARGANO: I was glad that they did that.

BURNETT: Well, I mean, these are important things. And obviously showing that they're talking to neighbors and you're giving that information is making a big difference.

When you saw the video that came out yesterday that the FBI released of the armed and masked person at Nancy Guthrie's front door -- you know, obviously, this is -- this is your neighbor. This is your neighborhood. This is a terrifying situation. What was your reaction when you saw that?

GARGANO: It was a -- it was -- it was startling and a bit terrifying. But yet immediately -- I immediately went to assessing the physique of this person, I immediately could see the physique of this, you know, the size of the head, the shape of the legs, the, you know, the probably approximate weight, just to see if it looked -- he looked familiar. I assumed it was a male. It looks like a male.

And I immediately started running through the list of people that I've worked with here. And as I may have mentioned earlier to your producer that a lot of times, people share service people in the area. It's not out of the ordinary to for the same yard service to be on three or four different properties, to give referrals to your neighbors or roofers or electricians. So, I just immediately looked to see if the shape looked familiar to me.

And I immediately did that, more so than being fearful, but also hopeful, because now we have an image to go by. So momentarily I pulled out some hope. Hope was waning for a while, but I pulled out some hope.

BURNETT: Yeah, well, and of course there is hope. And I know you know, Savannah and her family has hope and believes that their mother is still alive.

So, thank you so much, Laura. I appreciate your time.

GARGANO: You're welcome. Thank you.

BURNETT: And tonight at 11:00, don't miss a special hour by Laura Coates. It's called "The Search for Nancy Guthrie". That will be at 11:00, of course, with Laura.

And OUTFRONT next, as authorities expand their search for Nancy Guthrie, a closer look at the family at the center of this.

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ANNIE GUTHRIE, NANCY GUTHRIE'S DAUGHTER: Nancy is our mother. We are her children. She is our beacon.

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BURNETT: And Attorney General Pam Bondi today grilled on Capitol Hill over her handling of the Epstein files. Her response is frankly shocking.

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BONDI: You don't tell me --

RASKIN: Oh, I did tell you because we saw what you did in the Senate.

BONDI: Not even a lawyer -- not even a lawyer.

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BURNETT: Tonight, still no suspects. Law enforcement desperately searching around Nancy Guthrie home now, after canvassing her older daughter Annie Guthrie's neighborhood yesterday. We've seen both Annie and Camron Guthrie flanking their famous sister in the series of emotional videos that Savannah's posted on Instagram.

Jason Carroll is OUTFRONT now with a closer look at the Guthrie siblings at the heart of this.

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SAVANNAH GUTHRIE: We beg you now to return our mother to us

JASON CARROLL, CNN NATIONAL CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): Throughout their horrific ordeal, Savannah Guthrie siblings have been at her side.

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SAVANNAH GUTHRIE: On behalf of our family, we want to thank all of you for the prayers for our beloved mom, Nancy.

CARROLL (voice-over): Guthrie's brother, Camron, is the oldest of the three. He's a retired military pilot who once served with the Vermont Air National Guard.

CAMRON GUTHRIE, NANCY GUTHRIE'S SON: I'm Lieutenant Colonel Charles Guthrie, and I'm Savannah's big brother.

CARROLL (voice-over): "The Today Show" featured the eldest, Guthrie, with his baby sister when he took her on a special flight back in 2012.

SAVANNAH GUTHRIE: Call it operation twisted sister.

CAMRON GUTHRIE: I'll be in the front and you'll be sitting in the back. CARROLL (voice-over): Guthrie later noted her brother served his

country as an F-16 pilot for 26 years before retiring. He delivered the second social media message from the family last Thursday.

CAMRON GUTHRIE: I'm speaking for the Guthrie family. Whoever is out there holding our mother, we want to hear from you.

CARROLL (voice-over): Guthrie's older sister, Annie, has also spoken on a social media post from the siblings.

ANNIE GUTHRIE: The light is missing from our lives. Nancy is our mother. We are her children. She is our beacon.

CARROLL (voice-over): Guthrie's older sister is a jeweler and a writer who has taught creative writing courses at the University of Arizona. She has written two books, one about jewelry design, the other book of poems, and is married to Tommaso Cioni who is a teacher.

Nancy Guthrie was last seen by her family the evening before she disappeared. She had gone to dinner at her daughter's home and family took her back home that same night. Guthrie has spoken about the close bond she shares with her sister.

SAVANNAH GUTHRIE: Annie is like the blood going through my veins. She's my sister. She's always been there all my life

ANNIE GUTHRIE: My sister and I are like the sun and the moon. Together we make a whole.

CARROLL (voice-over): This from a 2017 "Today Show" segment featuring the two of them.

SAVANNAH GUTHRIE: Annie and I were both headed off to college and we both decided to live at home, and we had a spoken or unspoken pact that on the weekends, even though we were college girls, one of us would always stay home on one of the weekend nights so that my mom wouldn't be alone. That was just something we did together as sisters.

CARROLL (voice-over): Annie Guthrie giving these thoughts during the family's desperate plea for their mother's release.

ANNIE GUTHRIE: Mama, mama, if you're listening, we need you to come home. We miss you.

CARROLL (voice-over): Jason Carroll, CNN, New York.

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BURNETT: And next, Attorney General Pam Bondi defiant over the DOJ's handling of the Epstein files.

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REP. PRAMILA JAYAPAL (D-WA): Please raise your hands if you have still not been able to meet with this Department of Justice.

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BURNETT: Tonight, dramatic clashes between lawmakers and Attorney General Pam Bondi over her handling of the Epstein files. Take a look for yourself.

Paula Reid is OUTFRONT.

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BONDI: This guy has Trump derangement syndrome.

PAULA REID, CNN CHIEF LEGAL AFFAIRS CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): In her first appearance before house lawmakers. Attorney General Pam Bondi played to an audience of one.

BONDI: He is the most transparent president in the nation's history, and none of them, none of them ask Merrick Garland over the last four years, one word about Jeffrey Epstein. How ironic is that? You know why?

REID (voice-over): Lawmakers repeatedly pressed her on the Department of Justice's handling of the Epstein files and the impact on survivors.

JAYAPAL: Will you turn to them now? And apologize for what your Department of Justice has put them through with the un -- absolutely unacceptable release of the Epstein files and their information?

BONDI: Congresswoman, you sat before -- Merrick Garland sat in this chair twice.

JAYAPAL: Attorney General Bondi --

BONDI: Can I finish my answer?

JAYAPAL: No. I'm going to reclaim my time because I asked you --

REP. JIM JORDAN (R-OH): The attorney general can answer --

JAYAPAL: -- a specific question --

JORDAN: The attorney general can respond to your question.

JAYAPAL: -- that I would like to answer, which is will you turn to the survivors?

REID (voice-over): Republican Thomas Massie grilled her on redaction mistakes that he says exposed survivors and protected perpetrators

REP. THOMAS MASSIE (R-KY): These are the documents that we need that you're holding on to and over redacting because they have the names of the men who are implicated. How do we know? Because the survivors gave testimony to the FBI.

REID (voice-over): But Bondi came armed with personalized insults for any lawmaker that pressed her on an issue she did not want to discuss.

RASKIN: I told you about that, Attorney General, before you started.

BONDI: Don't tell me --

RASKIN: Oh, I did tell you because we saw what you did in the Senate

BONDI: -- lawyer. Not even a lawyer.

REID (voice-over): And the hearing swiftly devolved into a series of shouting matches.

REP. JERRY NADLER (D-NY): How many have you indicted?

BONDI: Excuse me? I'm going to answer the question.

NADLER: Answer my question.

BONDI: No, I'm going to answer the question the way I want to answer the question. Your theatrics are ridiculous.

NADLER: No, you can answer the question the way I asked it.

BONDI: Chairman Jordan, I'm not going to get in the gutter with these people.

REP. TED LIEU (D-CA): I believe you just lied under oath. There is ample evidence in the Epstein --

BONDI: Don't you ever accuse me of a crime.

LIEU: I believe --

BONDI: If they could maintain their composure. This isn't a circus. This is a hearing

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REID: -- times I've covered these hearings for over a decade and never seen anything like that. There was one, just one moment of bipartisanship when the attorney general agreed to work with lawmakers across the aisle on the issue of threats being made against lawmakers -- Erin.

BURNETT: Paula, thank you very much.

And I mean just incredible to watch all of that. As you said, you've seen 10 years of covering it. I just -- wow, I sometimes there just aren't words for things we're seeing these days.

Paula Reid, thank you very much for all of that.

And thanks so much as always, to all of you for being with us. We'll see you back here tomorrow.

"AC360" with Anderson begins now.