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Ukraine: At Least 440 Graves Found at Izium Burial Site; Queen to see Coffin Temporarily closed to new Arrivals; Putin Praises China's "Balanced Position" on Ukraine; Preparations Underway for Queen's Funeral on Monday; FedEx Sharply Lower as CEO Warns of Global Recession; King Charles Pays First Visit to Wales as Monarch. Aired 9-10a ET
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ZAIN ASHER, CNN HOST, FIRST MOVE: You are watching "First Move"; I'm Zain Asher in New York on this Friday. Afternoon King Charles is paying his
first visit to Wales as a new British monarch. These are live pictures outside of Cardiff Castle, the King and the Queen Consort just arrived
about five minutes or so ago.
This is right in the heart of the city center. He's going to be here meeting with representatives from various charities earlier today. He was
actually at the Senate, which is the Welsh parliament. And before that he was at Llandaff Cathedral for a prayer service, a service of remembrance
for his Mother Queen Elizabeth the second.
As I mentioned, they are now at Cardiff Castle. For reception, we will be live in Wales for you with the very latest just to give you an update on
the King's travel itinerary. It's a bit crammed today because he's going to have to travel back to London later today early this evening where he and
other members of the Royal Family will be beginning a silent vigil beside the Queen's coffin at Westminster Hall.
Princess William and Harry are also set to stand vigil for the Queen tomorrow. The queue of people we've been talking about this a bunch. The
queue of people wishing to enter Westminster Hall to say goodbye to the Queen to pay their last respects to Queen Elizabeth continues to grow. It
is now estimated to be some five miles long.
So many well wishes that in fact police were at one point forced to pause entry to the queue for several hours. Officials are now saying that the
Queen's funeral on Monday will be the largest ever single policing event in London.
The police have a lot of their hands. In terms of preparing for that we will have the very latest on the farewells for Queen Elizabeth the second
in just a few minutes. But first and alleged mass burial sites found in the recaptured City of Izium in Eastern Ukraine. Officials say that at least
440 graves had been discovered Presidents Zelenskyy strongly condemning Russia.
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VOLODYMYR ZELENSKYY, PRESIDENT OF UKRAINE: We want the world to know what is really happening and what the Russian occupation has led to in Bucha,
Mariupol and now unfortunately, Izium. Russia is leaving death behind everywhere and must be held responsible that the world must bring Russia to
real responsibility for this war.
(END VIDEO CLIP)
ASHER: CNN has not confirmed who was buried there or how they died. Ben Wedeman joins us live there, Ben, we are hearing that it was mostly
civilians. But Zelenskyy basically saying that he wants to show international journalists this site in his - as he pointed out that I'm
just going to reiterate what he just said we want the world to know what is really happening and what the Russian occupation has led to Ben walk us
BEN WEDEMAN, CNN SENIOR INTERNATIONAL CORRESPONDENT: Yes, well, we understand the source tells CNN that the U.N. human rights monitoring
organization is going to send a team to Izium, and also perhaps later a war crimes investigation team as well to see this site now it's in a forest.
Most of the graves are unmarked or just their crude wooden crosses with numbers on them. The Ukrainians are saying perhaps 440 bodies,
approximately in that mass grave or graveyard. But we don't as I said; we don't have the details on the fate of those who are buried there.
Now keep in mind that particularly in March, there was intense bombardment on Izium while it was still under Ukrainian control. So there's a
possibility that there could be bodies from there. For instance, I was in Severodonetsk before it fell into the Russians.
And at the time, the morgue in the hospital was full of bodies because of the shelling they really couldn't have. They didn't have the resources to
bury the people. But certainly what we've seen elsewhere, for instance, in Bucha, the suburb of Kyiv, where the Russians occupied it then left, left
behind almost 460 bodies, many of them showing the signs of summary execution, torture or having been beaten to death.
So we'll have to wait to see what journalists see there what the investigators see but certainly, the pattern has been established about
what happens when the Russians occupy Ukrainian territory and what is discovered when they leave.
ASHER: Yes, Zelenskyy there talking about the likes of Bucha likes of Mariupol; of course, you can now add Izium to that list. He said that he
wants accountability. How does that happen then?
WEDEMAN: Well, the Ukrainians have made it clear that they feel that this war was unjustified. That is a crime and that the Russians should be held
responsible for war crimes now. Can that actually be achieved? That's another question altogether.
But certainly, the amount of evidence that has been collected over the last more than six months certainly indicates the brutality of the Russian
occupation. And what we see on a daily basis is just for instance, random shelling of civilian areas. There's no rhyme or reason to this madness, and
certainly Zelenskyy and most Ukrainians would like to see some Russian officials or leaders held responsible if and when this war comes to an end,
ASHER: If and when right, Ben Wedeman live for us there, thank you so much.
Ukraine has liberated more territory in just one week than Russia captured in the past five months. Nick Paton Walsh went to a town that was under
Russian occupation just days ago. I want to warn you though, that some of the images in this report are extremely graphic.
NICK PATON WALSH, CNN INTERNATIONAL SECURITY EDITOR (voice over): The darkness is breaking quite suddenly up here and the road to Russia's border
with Ukraine strewn with what it left behind in its panic, including its own. Two Russian soldiers shot dead in fighting about five days ago. Yet
another sign the Kremlin doesn't care what or who it leaves behind.
This is Vovchansk, the closest town to Russia that Ukraine has taken back, and whose vital railways began the supply chain for most of Moscow's war.
The Russians, everyone says, just packed up and vanished a few days ago. They've always been so close. So part of life here any joy is not
universal. They were not very good says Andrei. They didn't shoot anyone though.
The hardest was to see their checkpoints and their Z signs and feel hatred growing in my heart says Tatyana. They can drink their oil and have their
golden diamonds for dessert, but just leave us alone here.
Nastya is sailing ships she says Ukraine has been at war all the eight years she's known. I think it'll be better without them. She says it was
uncomfortable having them here. Her parents nearby, say fear meant they slept in their clothes all the six months.
WALSH (on camera): It's kind of strange here to see how almost unaffected so much of this town has been and how life seems to have slipped
comfortably back into normal when the Russian has just picked up and left. And it gives you a feeling of how normality must still rain just a matter
of six kilometers away across the border in Russia.
WALSH (voice over): But normal is never coming back, particularly to hear the border line itself. Russia retreated back over it, but must now live
with the hatred that has stirred.
WALSH (on camera): The fact that Ukrainian forces are able to push right up to here the beginning of the border buffer zone with Russia. Russia is just
a matter of kilometers in that direction is yet another calamity Moscow has imposed upon itself. Its opponent in this war and it's struggling so deeply
to defeat is now so close to Russia's own towns and cities.
WALSH (voice over): A moment long coming says local soldier Anton.
WALSH (on camera): How do you feel walking along the Ukraine?
WALSH (voice over): Some people have waited this for eight years, he says. It is the start of our victory. Across the one sleepy field here lives and
harvests stalled, wilting if another year will come. Nick Paton Walsh CNN, Vovchansk Ukraine.
ASHER: Russian President Vladimir Putin is praising China's balanced position on the war on Ukraine after a face to face meeting with President
Xi Jinping during that regional summit in Uzbekistan Putin also admitting that maybe Moscow does not have an unconditional ally in Beijing when it
comes to this conflict.
Ivan Watson joins us live now. So Ivan, what are the consequences of Russia essentially not having the full backing the full sort of unwavering backing
of China basically its biggest international partner when it comes to the Ukraine war?
IVAN WATSON, CNN SENIOR INTERNATIONAL CORRESPONDENT: It shows that Vladimir Putin is more isolated than ever when it comes to prosecuting this
disastrous war in Ukraine. And it's striking because Vladimir Putin and Xi Jinping are two leaders who frequently talk about their close friendship
with they've met each other dozens of times.
WATSON: And they silence was deafening when they met in Samarkand in Uzbekistan. And Xi Jinping, the Chinese President did not make a single
mention of the war in Ukraine. He left that up to Vladimir Putin to do.
WATSON (voice over): Two leaders united by their dislike of the U.S. Xi Jinping, making his first trip outside of COVID lockdown China in more than
two years, face to face with his Russian counterpart Vladimir Putin, who quickly addresses the elephant in the room.
VLADIMIR PUTIN, PRESIDENT OF RUSSIA: We highly appreciate the balanced position of our Chinese friends in connection with the Ukrainian crisis. We
understand your questions and concerns in this regard.
WATSON (voice over): Questions and concerns about Russia's deadly war in Ukraine, a shift in tone from the last time these two men met. At the start
of the Beijing Winter Olympics in February, Xi and Putin announced a friendship with no limits and called for a new world order not dominated by
But only weeks later, Putin launched his invasion of Ukraine and it has not gone according to plan. Russia's military battered its economy increasingly
isolated. Putin now needs China more than ever. But in his public comments, the Chinese leader made no mention of Ukraine. The White House argues when
it comes to this war, Chinese friendship does have limits.
JOHN KIRBY, WHITE HOUSE COORDINATOR FOR STRATEGIC COMMUNICATIONS FOR NATIONAL SECURITY: We haven't seen the Chinese do anything overtly to
support the effort by Mr. Putin inside Ukraine. Clearly they haven't publicly condemned it. I think the Chinese as they watch what's going on
here. They recognize how isolated Moscow is from the rest of the international community. They recognize the economic costs and consequences
that this war is having on the Russian economy.
WATSON (voice over): Thanks in large part to the ongoing COVID lockdowns of entire Chinese cities; the Chinese economy is also taking a beating.
Something Xi can't afford to ignore as he prepares to grant himself a third term in office. The Chinese and Russian navies are conducting joint patrols
in the Pacific Ocean. But these types of shows of force have been challenged by the fierce resistance displayed by a much smaller military
fighting on the battlefields of Ukraine.
WATSON: So, so far, Beijing has been willing to offer Moscow kind of rhetorical support and cover arguing, for example, that it is the actions
or provocations of the U.S. and NATO that forced Russia to invade Ukraine and embark on this disastrous war. But as we heard from the White House,
the U.S. government doesn't believe that China is overtly doing anything like sending weapons to Vladimir Putin to prosecute this war.
China has also been buying discounted energy supplies from Russia at record levels. That's providing an economic lifeline, of course, but we're not
seeing an offer right now at this first important meeting between these two leaders, for the Chinese government to do anything to turn the tide of this
war that the Russian military is seems to be on the back foot in, certainly in North-Eastern Ukraine, Zain.
ASHER: Ivan Watson, live for us there thank you so much. Mourners in London have been told not to join the queue or the line to see Queen Elizabeth's
coffin for the next several hours. Authorities called a halt when the line reached 8 kilometers long, which would leave newcomers with a weight of at
least 14 hours. The public had been told to hold off until the queue reopens. No definite time has been given.
Scott McLean joins us live now. So wait times, at one point reaching 14 hours, authorities stopped the queue they put a halt to the queue. But from
what I understand, early on, at least people were actually still joining the queue, ignoring authority's requests. What's the status now, Scott?
SCOTT MCLEAN, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Yes, so I'm not entirely certain that they were ignoring authority's requests. The British are quite polite. They like
an orderly queue just as much as the next guy. My understanding of what happened is that they closed the gates to the park here.
And just as I'm talking about sort of walk forward and you can see just how long the lineup actually is really in both directions. You can look over
this way; really I mean just to see at humanity here.
MCLEAN: But they essentially closed the gates to the park opening to discourage people from entering the line just because there were so, so
many people here. And then they found that there was a queue forming to enter the queue and so kind of defeating the purpose of this whole
And so they were forced to then reopen the gates to the park. And so from speaking to people here, that pause in allowing people into the queue was a
very brief one. And now things have reopened. So even people who got here 2, 2.5 hours ago, they're still waiting in line right now. And they're
really prepared to stick it out for the long haul. Just wondering how long you guys had been in line for?
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: 2 hours, 2.5 hours.
MCLEAN: How long are you prepared to stay for?
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Until we get there.
MCLEAN: And where do you come from?
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: We live in Great Dunmow in Essex, which is about 35 miles. So that way, we could have probably walked here quicker than we can
get here with this queue.
MCLEAN: And I just wonder what's so important about, about this event that you guys are willing to sort of spend, you know, potentially 12 hours in
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Well, there are not many countries that have a Queen, and certainly the majestic person that she was 70 years plus, she has been
a marvelous Queen. I've been to the Queen mother's funeral here to Princess Diana's funeral here, couldn't go to the Duke of Edinburgh, because
obviously of COVID. But the least I can do is to pay my respects to a very valid member of our society.
MCLEAN: Thank you, sir. And I mean that's pretty much what you hear from virtually everyone in this line is that they just want to pay their
respects to the Queen. And if you just pan over this way, I'll just give you a quick lay of the land here. We're with CNN, sir. We're live right
now, thank you for talking to us.
So this is Park on the Eastern end of Central London. And this line basically sticks around to the end of the park. Obviously, when you get to
the end of this line, then you have about five miles left to go in order to get to the actual Palace of Westminster, the Houses of Parliament,
Westminster Hall, where the Queen's body is actually lying in state.
So you have this is just the queue to get into the line that doesn't sneak around. We're expecting later today that King Charles, Princess Anne,
Princess Royal and Princes Edward and Andrew will be holding vigil around the Queen's coffin, similar to what they did in Scotland.
And then tomorrow, we're expecting the Queen's eight grandchildren, including the Prince of Wales, Prince William and the Duke of Sussex,
Prince Harry, to be there as well. And so the people in this line depending on how long it takes, perhaps could see the Monarch could have perhaps
could see some other Royals as they come in.
But I think that the pause in the line, Zain that we saw earlier was simply just for authorities to try to discourage people from coming but what we've
seen so far is that it hasn't really done any of that and the line continues.
ASHER: Yes, people basically saying, look, I don't mind how long I have to wait. I don't care if I have to wait 12, 13, 14 hours. I want to pay my
respects. It's also about not just honoring her but also honoring everything that she stood for everything that she represented as well.
Scott McLean live for us there, thank you so much.
All right, straight ahead here on "First Move" China raising concerns over Russia's war in Ukraine. We'll have much more on Vladimir Putin and Xi
Jinping's meeting in Uzbekistan after the break.
ASHER: As Ukraine gains more territory from Russian forces Vladimir Putin is admitting that China has questions and concerns over Moscow's invasion
of Ukraine. Mr. Putin spoke to China's leader Xi Jinping at a Summit in Uzbekistan. It was the first time the pair had met since Russia's war
began. The Chinese Leader did not mention Ukraine directly. Here's a reminder of what Mr. Putin said.
(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)
PUTIN: We highly appreciate the balanced position of our Chinese friends in connection with the Ukrainian crisis. We understand your questions and
concerns in this regard. During today's meeting, of course, we will explain in detail our position on this issue, although we have spoken about this
(END VIDEO CLIP)
ASHER: Jill Dougherty is an Adjunct Professor at Georgetown University Center for Eurasian Russian and East European Studies. Jill, thank you so
much for being with us. So just explain, from the Chinese perspective just explain Xi Jinping's hesitancy to give a sort of full throated support for
JILL DOUGHERTY, ADJUNCT PROFESSOR, GEORGETOWN UNIVERSITY: You know, if you remember, the phrase that we all think of most recently, in defining the
relationship was no limits. That was what both President Xi and President Putin said.
But that was right before the war began. And things have changed. And let's take it from Beijing's perspective. You know, you look at Russia right now,
they do have military problems, they're being pushed back by Ukrainians is counter offensive. Then economically, Russia is in much worse shape, and
getting worse than it was at the beginning.
And there has been, I think, the strongest element is destabilization around the world in many different aspects, with inflation, oil, energy,
and then also the, you know, just the problems that they're having right now, in terms of destabilizing many different areas, not to mention, of
So I think one example that would be really very telling would be President Putin said yesterday, we support China's one China principle, which of
course, refers to Taiwan. And the next comment he made was criticizing certain countries, which of course, means the United States for chipping
away or damaging or threatening China's sovereignty.
But you have to reverse that and say, what is happening in Ukraine? I mean, the basis for what is happening in Ukraine, and for the invasion by
President Putin was to support a breakaway region in Ukraine.
So this is really counterintuitive, you know, so I think these are the problems that China is dealing with, as it looks at this situation. It
certainly wants to have a stable world in on many levels. And this is really instability that has hit many aspects of the world.
ASHER: So then what does what specifically does Russia actually need from China because China hasn't shipped weapons to Russia so far this year? So
what more does Vladimir Putin need and want beyond weaponry from Xi Jinping?
DOUGHERTY: Well, they're kind of the micro and then the macro, I'd say, macro on the big level. They want support from China, you know, hugely
influential in the world to look as if they are part there. They're certainly partners. There's no question in that, but that this is kind of
the old alternative to the Western world.
You know that Russia, China, India, and other countries. I'm sorry; I guess we had a little bit of interference there. But so they want that and then
directly, they want support from China as much as they can get it but they're not getting China's support sanctions.
DOUGHERTY: China is not supporting the sanctions. And China is not really full throatedly coming out to support this war. So I think President Putin
is not getting from President Xi, what he really wants even more so after this meeting in Uzbekistan.
ASHER: And it's got to be disheartening for Vladimir Putin because you're talking about not getting the sort of full support from China that he's
looking for. But also within Russia, he's facing you and I talked about this yesterday, within Russia, he's facing increasing criticism from city
councilors from local politicians just explain that to us. For him to be in this position where he's not receiving the international support, he needs
all the domestic support that he needs, either.
DOUGHERTY: Well, I don't think you can overplay it releasing, but because if you look at the polls, and I know, you know, polls at this point, are
very unreliable. But, you know, overall, the trend is that most Russians appear to support this war, or at least accept it, at least at this stage.
But you do have these really notable exceptions just recently over the past week or two of local, their local representatives on kind of a city bases,
that would be in St. Petersburg, and in Moscow, who have come out criticizing the war, putting together actual statements by some 50 people
saying they're against the war, and they want President Putin to step down.
Now, that is, I think that striking. Is it really influential across the country? Maybe not because these officials don't have a lot of, you know,
political clout, but you'd have to say, and just kind of the messaging that's quite striking.
The latest update date on that is that a number of them have been fined, but they have not been arrested. And theoretically, you know, they could be
but I think they skirted the law against criticizing the war and in talking about your finger spreading fake information about the war they have not
done that their statements were pretty straight ahead, but really quite amusing.
ASHER: Right, Jill Dougherty, thank you so much for that really thorough analysis we appreciate it staying with "First Move". I have much more after
the short break.
ASHER: Welcome back everybody! King Charles III and Queen Consort Camila are visiting Wales for the first time since Charles became Monarch barely a
week ago. You're looking at live pictures. This is just outside of Cardiff Castle. The time there in Wales is 2:30 in the afternoon. The King is
behind closed doors in the castle meeting with members of various charities this by the way, Cardiff Castle being one of the city's most important most
popular tourist attractions.
He's right there in the city center. You can see crowds gathering outside desperate to catch their first glimpse of the new King.
Earlier today he was at the Senate or the Welsh Parliament speaking about his mother. He actually spoke in Welsh a little bit as well, but he talked
about his mother's pride specifically in Wales in the nation. Take a listen.
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KING CHARLES, UNITED KINGDOM: I know she took immense pride in your many great achievements, even as she also felt with you deeply in times of
sorrow. It must surely be counted the greatest privilege to belong to a land that could inspire such devotion.
(END VIDEO CLIP)
ASHER: Nina Das Santos joins us live now from outside Cardiff Castle. So Nina, I want to talk about the special relationship that Charles has with
the people of Wales because he was Prince and - he was the longest serving Prince of Wales he became Prince of Wales at just nine years old. Then he
had a sort of formal investiture back in 1969 when he turned 20. He has studied well. He has spent time at Welsh universities as well. Just explain
the special bond the connection that King Charles has with the people of Wales.
NINA DOS SANTOS, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Well, first of all, upon becoming King upon his mother's death, aged 96. It is his duty and role and an important
part of the continuity of the Monarchy in this country that he visits all four parts of the United Kingdom.
That's obviously England, which is the larger geographical landmass, also the economic and political beating heart, but there's Scotland and also
Northern Ireland that are other devolved nations as well as here in Wales.
And as you pointed out, yes, Wales has this specific bond, but also this tense relationship with the Monarchy since of course, the English Crown
took over here back in the medieval times, in fact, 1282. And for this reason, you do have a very vocal Welsh nationalist movement as well.
I'm inside the complex of Cardiff Castle now. And behind these doors, we've got the Monarch as you said, and the Queen Consort meeting various charity
members, but when he came in through the gates over the drawbridge, there were big cheers.
Yes, but also boos from the nationalist parties who wanted to protest about having a Prince of Wales at all, let alone a Monarch. Remember, he's handed
over that title now, a Prince of Wales to William. This is a brief history of why Wales is so important to the Monarchy, but also why its relationship
is slightly fraught as well with it.
SANTOS (voice over): Tributes the Queen Elizabeth everywhere to be seen across Wales as one of the countries that makes up the United Kingdom.
Wales has played a special role in the Royal succession. And yet its part in the Monarchy's future remains an open question.
By tradition, the Heir to the British Throne is formally titled "The Prince of Wales". It's a relic of the medieval "Game of Thrones" between England
and Wales, as the English Crown looked to control its Welsh rivals throughout the Middle Ages.
This heritage still resonates in Wales, a country with its own language, its own national identity, and its history of resistance to English rule.
So in 1969, when Prince Charles was to be officially crowned the Prince of Wales, there were fears he could face embarrassment. Just 20 years old, and
with a flimsy knowledge of Wales' culture, Charles was sent to University College Aberystwyth for a crash course in the Welsh language.
EMYR LEWIS, PROFESSOR OF LAW & CRIMINOLOGY, ABERYSTWYTH UNIVERSITY: There was a desire to use the unifying appeal to the Royal Family, as a way of
diverting attention and support away from people who saw the future for Wales is lying outside the United Kingdom.
SANTOS (voice over): At the service with Queen Elizabeth at his side, Charles spoke first in Welsh then in English, pledging his service to the
CHARLES: I'm more than grateful to the people of this principality for making my brief stay so immensely worthwhile.
SANTOS (voice over): It was a warmly received speech and a pivotal moment in the young prince's life.
SANTOS (on camera): Back then Welsh nationalist so mainly activists and academics but today they're in government in Wales' own parliament the
Senate. After the death of the Queen, the Leader of ply curry, the Plaid Cymru said that the monarchies future in independent Wales should be
decided by the people. His predecessor put it more bluntly saying Wales has no need for a Prince.
SANTOS (voice over): The Welsh public, however, is less scathing. A survey in March from Cardiff University said 55 percent of Welsh people believe
Britain should continue to have a Monarchy.
JAMES GRIFFITHS, RESEARCH ASSOCIATE, WELSH ELECTION STUDY: There is a lot of tacit consent for the Monarchy in Wales. They might not like what's
happening, they might not like some of the money that the money that they get, but they are willing to continue it to accept the status quo.
SANTOS (voice over): As the line of succession moves along the title of Prince of Wales now falls to the new Heir Prince William, who says he's
honored to serve the Welsh people. William already has a long association with Wales as a Royal Air Force pilot, he was stationed on the Welsh Island
of Anglesey, and it was there that he made his first family home with Kate Middleton, after the birth of their son Prince George.
SANTOS: Well, Zain as you can see, I believe in these pictures inside the doors behind me inside the castle complex, we can see the Queen Consort,
Camila, and King Charles III meeting various members of local charities.
If you speak to many of the Welsh people I'd been doing over the last day many of them refer specifically to his very active charitable activities
here in Wales. And that's a given him a lot of plaudits. If you take a look at the crowd, if I step back along here, these are the chosen people who've
been lined up to meet their Monarch he won his first trip as King to Wales, many of them extremely excited, as you can see dressed for the part,
obviously, in the color of mourning, which is, of course, black.
But I have to say that outside of these castle doors, there are still a lot of people and there are still a lot of protesters. And this is probably the
first time that you've really seen that message, really questioning the value of the Monarchy at this point here in the last few days.
We haven't really seen it on quite such a scale in other parts devolved parts of the United Kingdom, as of course, many people wanted to make this
a moment of respect, not just for the King's accession to the throne, but also of respect for his 96 year old mothers 70 years' worth of service
ASHER: Nina Dos Santos live for us there, thank you so much! All right, for more on this particular visit, and also this overall momentous time for the
Monarchy, let's bring in Author and Royal Historian Elizabeth Norton. Elizabeth, thank you so much for being with us!
I'm not sure if you heard our Nina Dos Santos speaking there, but she was speaking about the fact that there are protesters outside of Cardiff Castle
now and that, you know, Wales is obviously a place in the UK that has its own identity. You know, it has its own language.
We had King Charles III speaking some Welsh earlier on today at the Senate. In 1969 during his investiture that was a time of real sort of growing
Republicanism in Wales as well, how has he managed to repair the relationship with the Welsh people, given the sort of - given the division
given the fact that there are people who still question the Monarchy there?
ELIZABETH NORTON, AUTHOR & ROYAL HISTORIAN: They're very much is in Wales. I mean, it dates back all the way to the 13th century, with the English
Conquest of Wales. And Wales has always maintained a very strong identity and of course, Welsh are very widely spoken in Wales.
So there are issues with having an English Prince of Wales. And of course, Charles's investiture back in 1969, called that to the fore. And again, I
think this week with Prince William being declared Prince of Wales has upset some people in Wales, certainly.
And it's a tricky issue, of course, because these are English Princes primarily, I mean, of course, part of United Britain, but you know, I mean,
Prince William is not Welsh, and Prince Charles, of course, was not Welsh. I think it's always going to be difficult to have an English Prince of
Wales and for some people in Wales, but I think in general, the Monarchy is mostly popular in Wales.
NORTON: And actually most people are accepting of Prince Charles now King Charles and then of course, Prince William, and certainly the efforts then
Prince Charles made to learn some Welsh and to learn about Welsh culture went down very well. And I would hope that Prince William will follow that
now that he is also Prince of Wales.
ASHER: There was some old footage of the then Prince of Wales, Charles at the time, and Princess Diana, visiting Wales for the first time as a
married couple. Diana really captivated the audience. She spoke Welsh as well. She added glamour and she really sort of given her title as Princess
of Wales, she sort of thrust Wales into the global spotlight in a really kind of glamorous way.
I mean, do you think that having Princess Diana changed the calculation, at least for some Welsh people just given her popularity, I think across the
NORTON: I absolutely would agree. I mean, Diana was an absolutely captivating personality, hugely popular, and certainly bolstered and King
Charles' popularity during the early years of their marriage. And I think she was really important because she raised the profile of Wales on a
But she also did it in a sensitive way. You know, she showed a fondness for Wales, and again, a willingness to learn about Welsh culture.
ASHER: And meantime, in London, we're seeing queues outside of Westminster Hall up to 14 hours long. I mean, one thing I find so interesting is that,
yes, even though Queen Elizabeth, you know, when her uncle's sort of abdicated the throne prior to that she never expected she was going to be
She was still somebody who was born into immense privilege as the King's niece. Despite all of that, though, she has seemed to sort of cut across
all swaths of British life in terms of how she connects with people? She really does seem to have had that common touch too. What do you attribute
NORTON: I think it was an understanding of people. So she was I mean, she was quite a shy individual herself, but she was very good at talking to
people and sort of spotting the people that she needed to speak to absolute, she had the common touch.
I mean, you never see the Queen complaining on footage. You know, she was always I mean, I'm sure she was annoyed many times, but it was never on
camera. She was always sympathetic. She was prepared to talk to anyone really. So of course, she was born into privilege.
I mean, she was a princess at birth. And the period she was born into, of course, was very different times. We're not we - weren't far from the
Victorian era. But I think that she grew up with an understanding of people.
I suspect her work during World War II actually helped to some extent, because of course, she joined the services and was involved in the war
effort. And I think that probably helped her get a sense of sort of camaraderie and the fact that everyone was in it together.
ASHER: Yes, I think so too. I mean, a lot of people talk about the fact that she was a mechanic during World War II and that hope that was her way
back then even as a princess have sort of helping in the war effort. Elizabeth Norton, thank you so much for being with us! You and I will both
be watching very closely what happens on Monday as we say goodbye to Queen Elizabeth II. We appreciate you joining the program.
All right, coming up Uber taken for a ride the popular Taxi app reporting a security breach it's not the first hacking headache for the firm by the
way, we'll have details just ahead.
ASHER: Welcome back! A stock profit warning from one of the world's largest package delivery firms is helping trigger a fresh wave of selling on Wall
Street. U.S. stocks right now falling for a second straight session after FedEx reported weaker than expected quarterly results.
The company's CEO also warning that a global recession may be on its way as well. The news adding to the already tense mood on Wall Street ahead of
next week's Federal Reserve's interest rate decision.
The Fed is widely expected to raise rates by three quarters of a percentage point Wednesday instead, such a jumbo rate hike in a row FedEx shares
currently down more than 20 percent in early trading. It says demand has slowed to such an extent and it's being forced to withdraw its full year
profit guidance and it believes things will only get worse as we head towards the end of the year.
Gosh, what a stark warning? Paul R LA Monica joins us live now. So Paul FedEx saying that demand for packages worldwide is falling. And that's why
they're - that's partly why they're predicting a recession. Just explain why the demand for packages is falling?
PAUL R LA MONICA, CNN REPORTER: Yes, I mean, I think that clearly Zain, we have the ripple effects of ramping inflation that is still a problem in the
United States. And of course, globally, you have continued worries about some of the supply chain issues that have also caused problems throughout
the shipping world and global economy.
But I think at the end of the day Zain, it really comes down to inflation. We all knew that at some point, consumers would need or probably want to
pull back on spending on things from their favorite online shopping destinations, because the prices are just too high.
And that has really been a problem in Europe and Asia and of course, the U.S. as well. And that's why we're seeing FedEx cut its guidance and taking
some pretty dramatic moves to you know, shutter some of their facilities temporarily to cut back on flights.
It is really a dramatic statement from the company. And it's why we're seeing the whole market fall today along with FedEx UPS stock plunging is
well, you know, unsurprisingly.
ASHER: Yes. You just touched on this, in terms of how FedEx is responding to this guidance. They're saying they're reducing flights. They're
temporarily parking aircraft. They're trimming hours for staff, for example, delaying some hiring plans. This doesn't just affect FedEx, there
is a ripple effect. That's going to happen from this as well?
MONICA: Yes, there are concerns I think about what this means for the health of the U.S. job market, which to be honest, has remained relatively
robust. And I think it's one of the reasons why stocks have been so choppy and falling lately because we all know that prices are continuing to rise
and that should hurt the economy.
But jobless claims came in at very low levels yesterday, retail sales still holding up. I think the question now Zain is those data points are in the
past will future numbers as a result of what we saw with FedEx indicating that consumer spending might be weakening?
Will we finally start to see that impact the job market and retail sales and you know this FedEx warning is obviously an ominous macro sign?
ASHER: Paul R LA Monica live for us there, thanks you so much! All right, also today another security breach at the world's most popular ride hailing
app report say a hacker broke into Ubers' computer systems triggering what the company calls a cybersecurity incident.
Motives right now still not known, still not clear. But it does follow a reputation damaging breach that took place about six years ago. Let's bring
in Rahel Solomon joining us live now. So Rahel just walk us through what more we know about this particular hack what happened here?
RAHEL SOLOMON, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Well Zain, Uber is acknowledging that they're responding to a cybersecurity incident. They are not however,
saying much more than that. Take a look at the tweet that they posted. Overnight, the company saying that we are responding to a cybersecurity
incident. We are in touch with law enforcement. And we'll post additional updates here as they become available.
Now "The New York Times" was the first to report this. "The New York Times" reporting that this breach Zain impacts internal communication systems such
as Slack, but also engineering systems, "The New York Times" saying that when this was announced the hacker who's believed to be about 18 announced
via the employee slack I announce I am a hacker and Uber has suffered a data breach.
Here's what we don't know, at this point. Was this just an internal data breach? Was this just an internal cybersecurity issue? Or has this expanded
to include rider information, passenger information? Uber is a company that of course has massive global reach, it operates in 70 countries. And so
that's something that we are still waiting to hear from lots of questions. But certainly the potential impact of this could be quite large.
ASHER: Yes, and another headache for Uber just given the fact that this is not exactly the first time that they've had issues with hackers.
SOLOMON: Right, exactly. Because remember, back in 2016, I believe it was hacker stole data on 57 million passengers and riders. And at the time,
Uber had actually paid $100,000, to the hackers to delete the information to make it go away. But Uber did not disclose this information to those
passengers and to those riders.
And so it ultimately had to pay a settlement. That settlement was in the amount of $148 million because of that. So what you're seeing this time is
Uber acknowledged that it's happening, but we're not hearing much more just yet, in terms of the impact of this. But it could have huge financial
implications for the company as we just pointed out, but also potentially some passengers.
ASHER: Right. Rahel Solomon live for us there thank you so much! We appreciate it. Alright, stay with "First Move" we will have much more after
ASHER: All right, welcome back everybody! Take a look here. You're looking at live pictures from outside of Cardiff Castle in Wales as King Charles II
and Queen Consort Camilla attends a reception behind closed doors inside Cardiff Castle.
They're attending a reception for local charities, you can actually see the crowds building up outside eager to catch a glimpse of their new King when
he emerges shortly after which he's set to go back to London to stand vigil beside his mother's coffin at Westminster Hall.
By the way, this is the first visit to Wales that Charles has made since becoming Monarch. The King has had a long standing relationship with Wales
going back more than half a century. He was the longest serving Prince of Wales in history had his investiture back in 1969.
ASHER: The trip to Welsh Capital is the final stop on the King's tour of the UK after he made visits to Scotland, obviously, which is where his
mother passed away then Northern Ireland and of course, England.
Of course, the Queen was one of the most recognized faces in the world from police hats to postboxes, Her Majesty's image and insignia is visible
throughout Britain. A new Monarch means that over time, some of that symbolism will inevitably be replaced.
Changes are already starting to appear for example, if you pay tax in the UK, you're now paying his Majesty's Revenue and Customs and despite the
decline of cash the Queen's face appears on banknotes and coins issued in both Britain and abroad.
Replacing them could of course take years though the Royal Mint hasn't issued a timeline yet. The Queen's likeness can also be found on currency
in Australia, New Zealand, and Canada and beyond. Let's not forget Elizabeth II in Sydney is stitched into tens of thousands of police
uniforms eventually that will be replaced with Charles's. Alright, that's it for the show "Connect the World" with Becky Anderson is up next. You're