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Trump Makes False Late-Term Abortion Claim; Harris Dismisses Trump's Race Attacks; Humanitarian Pause in Gaza; Gaza Polio Vaccinations; Israel Says It Killed Hamas Commander in West Bank; Musk's X Suspended in Brazil; Zelenskyy Fires Air Force Chief; Ukraine Pressing U.S. to Lift Restrictions on U.S.-Made Weapons on Russian Soil; Chinese Passengers' Extreme Measures to Silence a Crying Child; NHL Star Johnny Gaudreau and Brother Killed in Bike Crash. Aired 6-7p ET
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LYNDA KINKADE, CNN ANCHOR: It is 6:00 a. m. in Shanghai, 8:00 a. m. in Sydney, and 6:00 p. m. here in Atlanta. I'm Lynda Kinkade, in for Julia
Chatterley. And wherever you are in the world, this is your "First Move."
A very warm welcome to "First Move." Here is today's need to know. No Labor Day holiday for the U.S. presidential hopefuls. Donald Trump says he'll
vote against a Florida abortion rights measure. While Kamala Harris' CNN interview comes under the spotlight.
A humanitarian pause in Gaza for a massive health drive. 640,000 children to be vaccinated against polio to prevent an outbreak of the killer
disease. We'll have a live report from Jerusalem.
And the social media platform X suspended in Brazil, a judge makes the order following a legal row with Elon Musk. We'll explain.
And what would you do, anger in China after passengers go to extreme measures to silence a crying toddler on a plane. Just one of the many
problems facing stressed out parents. That conversation coming up.
But we begin here in the U.S. In the past couple of hours, Donald Trump has been speaking to voters in the battleground State of Pennsylvania. It's an
issue in Florida that's actually making headlines, abortion rights. The Republican candidate on Thursday said a six-week abortion ban in the state
was too short. Take a listen.
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DONALD TRUMP, FORMER U.S. PRESIDENT AND REPUBLICAN PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: Well, I think the six-week is too short. It has to be more time. And so,
that's -- and I've told them that I want more weeks.
(END VIDEO CLIP)
KINKADE: But a change of tune just moments ago, Trump saying he would not agree to an expansion of abortion rights in Florida. He explained his
reasoning to Fox News.
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TRUMP: Look, at the same time the Democrats are radical because the nine months is just a ridiculous situation where you can do an abortion in the
ninth month and, you know, some of the states like Minnesota and other states have it where you can actually execute the baby after birth. And all
of that stuff is unacceptable. So, I'll be voting no for that reason.
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KINKADE: Unacceptable and illegal, as CNN has repeatedly noted. In every state in the U.S., it is illegal to kill a baby after it's born. Well,
there's a lot to unpack here. First, let's bring in Democratic strategist Maria Cardona. Good to have you with us, Maria.
I want to ask you first about that change in tune, it seems, from Donald Trump within 24 hours of saying that six weeks is too short for an abortion
ban, saying more weeks are needed, now today saying he won't agree to any sort of expansion of abortion rights in Florida. Just where does Trump
stand on abortion?
MARIA CARDONA, CNN POLITICAL COMMENTATOR AND U.S. DEMOCRATIC STRATEGIST: Well, we know where he stands on abortion, Lynda. He brags about being the
one to appoint the three extremist conservative judges to the Supreme Court, who were the ones that overturned Roe v. Wade.
So, he does not trust women to make decisions about our own bodies. He wants to take away our bodily autonomy, his has already done so. A third of
women in the United States live in states that have extreme abortion bans that actually have put women's lives in danger, have put their lives and
livelihoods in danger as well. And that's why the vast majority of Americans are revolting against Donald Trump, against his extremist
Republican Party, against his MAGA supporters who all believe that women should be second class citizens and not given the right to make decisions
about our own bodies. That's where he has always stood.
But I think he understands that this issue has been electoral kryptonite for Republicans, which is why once in a while he tries to walk it back
saying that, you know, oh, it's up to the states and six weeks is too short, maybe it should be a little bit longer. And he's even told his
Republican strategist that this is not a good issue for them electorally, that they don't know how to talk about it. It's not that they don't know
how to talk about it, they don't know how to give women the right to make decisions about their own bodies because they don't respect women and they
don't understand that we have the ability to make those decisions and should have that right.
And the vast majority of Americans agree with that, which is why this is going to continue to be a huge electoral downfall for Republicans, and it
will be so in November for Donald Trump and J. D. Vance.
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KINKADE: And we are, of course, while you're speaking, Maria, just looking at live pictures of Trump at a rally in Pennsylvania. But right now, I want
to turn to the Harris interview on CNN last night, where Kamala Harris was asked about Donald Trump questioning her race. I just want to play some
sound from that interview.
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DANA BASH, CNN ANCHOR AND CHIEF POLITICAL CORRESPONDENT: What I want to ask you about is what he said last month. He suggested that you happened to
turn black recently for political purposes. Questioning a core part of your identity. Any --
KAMALA HARRIS, U.S. VICE PRESIDENT AND U.S. PRESIDENTIAL DEMOCRATIC CANDIDATE: Same old, tired playbook. Next question, please.
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KINKADE: So, she could have criticized Donald Trump. She could have called him a racist. She could have really fired up, but she didn't. Explain that
strategy.
CARDONA: I thought that was probably one of the best answers that she gave in her interview last night, Lynda, but again -- because I think what it
shows is that she is above all that crap, excuse my language, because she, I think, understands that Americans and frankly, the world knows that
Donald Trump is a racist, knows that he's a misogynist, knows that he's a sexist, knows that everything that he -- when he's in a campaign,
everything that comes together, if he's campaigning against a strong woman, it's all about insults. It's all about demeaning them. It's all about
cutting them down because he doesn't know how to run against a strong, accomplished, smart woman who happens to be a woman of color, a Black
woman, of Asian descent, daughter of immigrants. It's like the biggest nightmare for Donald Trump is Kamala Harris.
And so, she doesn't need to go there. She doesn't need to demean herself and lower herself to his level. She will let other supporters, other
allies, point out exactly what I'm pointing out right now, which is that he is a racist, he is a misogynist, he is a xenophobe, he's a sexist, and he
doesn't deserve to have the presidency for another four years.
And what Kamala Harris said last night as well, which I thought was also brilliant and spot on, is that this is a country that focuses on optimism,
that the leaders of this country, the mark of a true leader, is how much we can lift each other up, not tear each other down.
And we know that every time that Donald Trump opens his mouth and J. D. Vance now as well, he tears people down, and specifically they tear women
down. They tear women of color down. And I think it's going to backfire for them. It has already been backfiring. It's going to continue to backfire
for them in November.
KINKADE: All right. Maria Cardona, as always, great to have you on the program. Thanks for joining us, and have a good weekend.
CARDONA: Thank you so much, Lynda. You too.
KINKADE: Well, we want to get more on Donald Trump's abortion stand and his stance on IVF. Steve Contorno is in Washington and joins us live.
Steve, good to have you with us. First, to Trump's stance on abortion. He seems to be flip-flopping from comments he made yesterday on a six-week ban
being too short. to a statement he made today saying he won't agree to expand abortion rights in Florida. Is the Republican Party trying to rein
him in?
STEVE CONTORNO, CNN REPORTER: Well, we certainly saw widespread backlash from anti-abortion advocates in the last 24 hours after Donald Trump seemed
to suggest that he would not be support -- or excuse me, he would be supporting a ballot referendum in his home State of Florida that would
expand access to abortion.
His comments were quite confusing. His campaign had later clarified and Donald Trump himself just moments ago saying that he would, in fact, vote
against that ballot referendum, which would keep in place a six-week ban in the State of Florida. That's one of the most restrictive bans in the
country.
And Donald Trump has been largely critical of that six-week ban, going back to the primary race, he ran against Florida's governor Ron DeSantis, but in
spite of that, he is going to vote against a referendum that would expand access to as much as 24 weeks into a presidency.
Of course, Donald Trump has been changing his position on abortion going through all the way back to his early days in politics. He has been on
nearly every side of the abortion debate whenever it's been sort of politically expedient for him. Over the summer, we counted about 15 times
where Donald Trump had changed his position on abortion over the years. And I guess now we have number 16.
KINKADE: Yes, exactly. And, Steve, he also promised IVF for free for everyone in America and said he would mandate insurance companies to pay
for it if need be. Has he provided any more detail on that? And what can you tell us about this speech he's doing tonight to the Moms for Liberty
convention? How much sway does that group have?
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CONTORNO: He has not said yet how he's going to pay for what would be an expansive new mandate to ensure that women can get access to in vitro
fertilization procedures. In fact, what's interesting is that earlier this summer, there was a provision in a Senate bill that would have done exactly
that. And his vice-presidential nominee, J. D. Vance voted against that measure. So, there's still a lot of devils in the details, but clearly
making a play for women's votes here on an issue that is very much a concern of many in the post Roe aftermath in the United States.
As for Moms for Liberty, this is a group that has been very influential in starting these sort of culture wars in the U.S. over K through 12
education. They have been instrumental in pushing Florida, for example, to remove certain books from schools, to get LGBTQ topics out of the
classroom, to ban certain conversations about race, like critical race theory, and Donald Trump's agenda is very much aligned with them.
So, this is a friendly audience that he is speaking of. They have many aligned interests, and he will be delivering a speech that is supposed to
be focused on education to them later this evening in Washington, D.C.
KINKADE: And of course, he's not really slowing down much over the Labor Day weekend. Tell us what's on the agenda in the coming days and week.
CONTORNO: Yes, we're going to see a very active campaign from Donald Trump going forward. I will note there's going to be probably a pause from both
sides for a few days because we have that critical September debate right around the corner. And so, there will be some time for getting caught up on
sleep and prepping for that debate.
But yes, Donald Trump is going to be running a very active campaign in the coming weeks. They really want to try to catch up to the energy and
enthusiasm that has come from the vice president and the Democratic ticket ever since that change was made from Joe Biden to Kamala Harris.
And so, we are seeing a far more active campaign from Donald Trump over the last two weeks, something that many of his allies have been pushing for,
and that he is finally responding to.
KINKADE: All right. Steve Contorno for us, joining us from Washington, D.C. Good to have you with us. Thank you.
Well, I want to turn to Gaza now where a plan is underway to vaccinate more than half a million children against polio. The virus recently resurfaced
after 25 years. Health workers are set to deliver the doses during three humanitarian pauses over the next month. The World Health Organization says
polio isn't the only disease threatening those in Gaza.
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DR. MIKE RYAN, EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR, WHO HEALTH EMERGENCIES PROGRAM: The current outbreak in Gaza is a stark reminder of how quickly infectious
diseases can re-emerge where health systems are compromised. Many other diseases are spreading. While our collective capacities to prevent, detect
and respond to them continue to be hindered.
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KINKADE: Well, meanwhile, the Israeli military said it killed a Hamas commander and two other fighters as its West Bank operations continued for
a third day. Palestinian officials say at least 19 people have been killed.
Nic Robertson joins us now live from Jerusalem. Good to have you with us, Nic. I want to start first with the logistics around the vaccination
rollout. It's hard to comprehend how this will happen inside Gaza that is completely devastated. What can you tell us about this rollout?
NIC ROBERTSON, CNN INTERNATIONAL DIPLOMATIC EDITOR: Yes, it's without precedent. And I was speaking with one of the UNRWA senior official, Sam
Rose, a little earlier, he said this was monumental. This is not something that's ever been done before. 640,000 children they have to vaccinate,
they're all under 10 years of age.
They're going to do it in three phases. The center of Gaza for three days and then the South of Gaza for three days, and then the North of Gaza for
three days. But in each of those areas, they get these pauses. So, it's not a big blanket ceasefire, if you will, pause across the whole of Gaza, which
is what the U.N. Originally wanted.
So, each of those days, they will only get between seven or eight hours pause in the fighting. So, if you kind of, you know, multiply out or do the
math on those numbers, they really have to try to vaccinate about 10,000 children an hour now.
Now, he said they're prepared for this. They're going to learn as they go, but they've got 3,000 workers on the job. They can use health centers, the
smaller health clinics, and then they're going to have mobile teams at as many as 2,000 different locations setting up in fields and, you know, in
shrub land, on sandy beaches as well, wherever they can get to people.
But one of the difficulties that they're going to face is, although they've got this target number and they need to do at least 90 percent, they don't
know if that's actually the accurate number. It's the best estimate they've got. But they fear that many children may sadly be under the rubble of
houses.
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So, getting the right target number, they have to get 90 percent of the -- of that pop 640,000 to know that they have a statistical chance of knocking
the disease on the head. And the other big caveat here, of course, is they need to do this again in four weeks' time. And what Sam Rose told us is, if
we don't get the pause, if we're not able to do this whole vaccination process, pull off this whole big effort again in four weeks' time, then the
first round will have been for nothing. They have to get a second dose out there as well.
KINKADE: Wow. And turning to the West Bank, Nic, we know 600 Palestinians have been killed in the West Bank since the start of the war in Gaza. What
more can you tell us about the latest IDF raids?
ROBERTSON: Yes, it's been sort of seen, when it began three days ago, as the biggest Israeli military operation in the West Bank since the war had
begun. It does seem now that the scale of the operation is reducing in size, maybe not the number of forces because we don't get daily updates on
the troop dispensation from the IDF.
But what we do know is the IDF is claiming that it's killed 20 people now in this operation overall. It does now seem to be focused on Jenin. The IDF
is saying that today three of those people it killed were Hamas fighters, one of them they say it was a senior commander in the area. All the 20 they
say who have died they say were terrorists.
Ministry of Health officials in the West Bank, though, say yes, 20 people have died, but they would count some of them as civilians. And certainly,
civilians have been injured. And the governor, the local council governor in Jenin has been appealing for a pause in this military operation so that
civilians can get out to get food, to get medicine or even, in some cases, take shelter.
And we were looking at a video posted by some journalists this evening showing what appeared to be families with small children escaping through
sort of rough woodland and hillside to get out of Jenin to get some safety, and that was in the east of Jenin.
So, this does appear to be an ongoing military operation. The end sort of bounds of it, if you will. We don't know when they're going to come. But
the IDF has been very clear that it has found bomb making equipment, they say that they've targeted terrorists, targeted and killed terrorists, and
they've also detained almost 20 people, they say, are connected to terrorism.
KINKADE: All right. Nic Robertson for us, staying across all those developments from Jerusalem. We will speak to you again soon. Thanks so
much.
Well, still ahead on "First Move," an extraordinary legal development in Brazil. The feud between X owner Elon Musk and the country's Supreme Court
has taken a dramatic new turn. We'll have the latest.
Plus, a toddler tantrum leads to an online meltdown. Outrage over how a young Chinese baby was disciplined when she didn't stop crying on a plane.
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KINKADE: Welcome back. An end of August rally on Wall Street tops today's Money Move. U.S. stocks finishing the trading week and the month in the
green. The Dow finishing in record territory. And S&P choking up its fourth straight winning month. All this as the latest read on the Fed's preferred
measure of inflation rose 2.6 percent over year, a bit softer than expected.
Europe finished the week mostly lower, despite news that the Eurozone inflation fell to a three-year low. But green arrows across the board in
Asia. Hong Kong shares in the lead up more than 1 percent. Alibaba was a big winner after the Chinese government said the firm passed a three-year
antitrust review. The online retailing giant agreeing to make some changes to its business model. One Wall Street analyst calling it a new start for
the company.
Well, a Brazilian Supreme Court judge has ordered the suspension of social media platform X in the country. The decision comes after the company
failed to name a legal representative there. The judge and X owner Elon Musk have been in a public feud for months over content moderation
policies.
Well, let's bring in Stefano Pozzebon. Good to see you, Stefano. So, X is widely used in the country there. Just how widely and what is Elon Musk
saying about this?
STEFANO POZZEBON, JOURNALIST: Yes, Lynda. Well, X is a -- Brazil is a massive market for X. I think that the company says that about 40 million
Brazilians access the social network every month. And it's also a massive market, not just for X, but also for Starlink, SpaceX, which are the sister
companies that are also controlled by Elon Musk, whose satellite internet is widely used in the Brazilian Amazon, because it's one of the largest
countries in the world, lots of people living in rural areas that are not received -- that are not reached by the network.
The reaction from Elon Musk in the last couple of hours has been swift. We knew this was coming because the Supreme Court justice, Alexandre de
Moraes, had given X a 24-hour ultimatum, ordering them to name a legal representative. X had already announced that they would not comply with his
order. And so, when the suspension order arrived, this is what Musk said on X, or formerly known as Twitter, the oppressive regime in Brazil is so
afraid of the people learning the truth that they will bankrupt anyone who tries. That is, of course, if you think that everything that goes on
Twitter or X is the truth.
And what Musk is referring to in that posting on his social media is that there is a clause in the suspension order issued today that goes after
individual users who might access Twitter or X via a VPN. That is a virtual private network, is how you can stream the internet, surf the net from a
different location where you are. So, if you, for example, leave in a country like Brazil that enforces such an order, you could still access X
by using a VPN and coming up from a different country.
Well, if Brazilian authorities catches you, Lynda, surfing the internet via VPN to access X or Twitter, they could find you up to 50,000 reals per day.
That is just less than $9,000 per day. Now, it's very hard to imagine how Brazilian authorities would enforce this order. But at the same time,
catching anyone and slamming on them, the -- a nine grand of a fine gives you the idea of how serious this situation is in Brazil for 40 million
people who access it every single day.
The ban -- the app is currently being taken away from the local version of the Apple Store and the Play Store. And yes, as of today, Brazilians will
no longer be able to access X, formerly known as Twitter.
KINKADE: All right. Stefano Pozzebon, we will stay across that story. Good to have you with us today. Thank you.
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Well, we want to turn now to Japan, which continues to deal with the tropical storm Shanshan. The system is still moving slowly over the
country, pouring heavy rain and leading to landslides and canceled flights.
Well, for more on this, I'm joined by Chad Myers. So, Chad, this was the strongest typhoon to hit so far this year. It's been downgraded, but still
causing a lot of devastation.
CHAD MYERS, CNN METEOROLOGIST: Right. Even though the wind has died off to about 35 miles per hour, 55 kilometers per hour, things are still wet. We
are still raining heavily in these areas. Even in Tokyo. Tokyo picked up an awful lot of rainfall in a very short amount of time. There you can see
where the kind of spin is there now just in Southern Honshu. Easier to see maybe a little bit on the satellite picture.
But winds are not the issue. Right now, it's still going to be wet and it's still going to be raining for the next, I think, 48 hours. And some spots
have already picked up nearly one meter of rain in the last 72 hours. I think that's hard to imagine what one meter of rain can do up a hill coming
down the hill. Even for Tokyo, the area there, 193 millimeters in six hours. That's almost eight inches of rain in just six hours.
And the storm isn't moving. It isn't going anywhere fast until Sunday and then Monday. And all of a sudden, it gets caught up in the upper levels and
gets sucked up and moved away finally, finally, but not before still we're going to put down another 150 to 200 millimeters of rain in places that
certainly don't need anymore.
Big weekend going on in North America in the U.S. It is Labor Day. Labor Day, always the day off on Monday for workers. So, a three-day weekend. A
lot of them heading to the beach. It'll be nice and cool. Down to the south, it'll be a little bit wet from the Gulf Coast along the
Appalachians. There could be some showers. But the cold fronts are going to really chill things down where Chicago was in the middle 90s Fahrenheit.
And a heat index in Chicago, just two days ago, was 46 Celsius. And Chicago, you're going to be nowhere near that, 75 for Fahrenheit for you
over the weekend. So, yes, that's the cold air coming, not getting down to the deep south, still in the 90s here and still baking out west as we'd
expect. So, yes, we're still going to see those temperatures above 100.
Some showers across the Gulf Coast and the Eastern Atlantic. Cooler weather for the next week, that's some good news. But a couple areas of tropical
development. One in the Gulf of Mexico with a 20 percent chance of doing something in the next few days and two more in the Atlantic. It has been a
quiet two or three weeks here in the Atlantic Ocean. I think it's waking up. Lynda.
KINKADE: That's not good news. Give me some good news next time, Chad. I hope you have a good long weekend. Enjoy the summer weather while it lasts
here. Thanks so much.
MYERS: You bet.
KINKADE: Well, still ahead, Ukrainian President Zelenskyy makes a stunning change in his top ranks just days after the death of one of the country's
top pilots. The very latest on Zelenskyy's military moves after a short break.
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KINKADE: Welcome back to "First Move." I'm Lynda Kinkade with a look at more international headlines this hour. It is the last long weekend of
summer here in the U.S. with travelers making moves across the country. The TSA is expecting this Labor Day to be the busiest one on record, screening
as many as 17 million travelers through the nation's airports.
NASA says Boeing's Starliner spacecraft is set to return to Earth next week without its two-person crew. The craft has run into several problems during
its inaugural mission. Astronauts Butch Wilmore and Suni Williams flew the ship to the International Space Station back in June. NASA says they'll
return on a SpaceX vessel no earlier than February 2025.
Well, this was the moment a public library was turned into a bathtub. A stormwater burst through the walls of the Smithtown Library in Long Island,
New York. The incident happened 11 days ago, but the video has just been released. Wow. Officials say the water caused $10 million worth of damage,
including to priceless historical documents.
Well, Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy has fired the commander of his air force. It comes after one of Ukraine's top pilots died when a U.S.
made F-16 fighter jet crashed on Monday. Ukraine's defense minister in an interview with CNN a short time ago denies this decision has anything to do
with that crash.
Well, meanwhile, Ukraine is pressing the U.S. to lift restrictions on the use of American weapons on Russian soil. Here's what Ukrainian Defense
Minister Rustem Umerov told CNN about his meeting with his U.S. counterpart, Lloyd Austin.
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RUSTEM UMEROV, UKRAINIAN DEFENSE MINISTER: We've provided the situation on the battlefield. We have explained the needs. We have explained what kind
of capabilities we need to protect the citizens against a Russian terror that the Russians are causing us. So, I hope we were heard.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: And that includes, I imagine, going after targets inside of Russia, correct?
UMEROV: Yes. We explain that it's a legitimate military target, that's a logistic hops airfield. So, we've explained our logic behind of our
request.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: The question at issue, as far as I understand it, is permission for the Ukrainians to use the longest-range missile that the
U.S. has given to Ukraine, which is called an ATACMS. It goes 200 miles or 300 kilometers. And you have been petitioning the administration to be
allowed to use that inside of Russia. Are they going to now allow you to do that?
UMEROV: We hope. We are in consultation phase. And we hope it will be allowed. Because, as we said, that our partners should understand that we
are protecting our land, we are protecting people against the violation of Russian Federation, who is launching the missiles towards the cities,
towards the civilian objects, and that's why we want to protect them to hit the legitimate military targets.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: So, the Biden administration is still considering this request?
UMEROV: Yes, they are analyzing.
(END VIDEO CLIP)
KINKADE: Well, Oren Liebermann joins us now from the Pentagon with more on this. Oren, good to have you with us. So, what more can you tell us about
those discussions in D.C.? And what are you hearing about Zelenskyy's so- called victory plan, which he's set to present to the U.S. president next month?
OREN LIEBERMANN, CNN PENTAGON CORRESPONDENT: So, Ukraine and the U.S., at this point, are being very careful about what's inside that victory plan,
although the U.S. is certainly eager to find out what's in it and what the plan is, partially at least, because the U.S. still has questions about
what the goal of the Kursk operation is as Ukrainian forces keep advancing, albeit slowly, into Russia.
The questions there as Russia advances, again, albeit slowly, into Eastern Ukraine. So, how those two play together and affect each other, that's
certainly something the U.S. will be looking to hear. Ukraine made it clear what their goal was for these meetings.
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They wanted to convince -- to present a case to convince the Biden administration to ease restrictions on long-range missiles, such as ATACMS.
Were they successful? Well, you just heard Ukrainian Defense Minister Rustem Umerov right there. They're not quite sure. They're not saying they
were successful, but they hope they were able perhaps to change some minds and we'll see where that decision goes.
From the U.S.'s perspective, according to a U.S. official, the perspective -- the focus of these meetings was a bit different. Yes, they knew Ukraine
was going to come in and make the case for long-range weapons, but the U.S. sees the most effective use of U.S.-made long-range weapons as striking
high value targets in occupied Crimea.
They say most of the high value targets in Russia have been pulled out of ATACMS' range. So, the U.S. meanwhile is focusing on, for example, the
critical need for air defenses. So, it's certainly not that they're talking past each other, the U.S. simply sees a more valuable loose -- use for a
very limited supply of U.S.-made long-range weapons by the Ukrainian military here.
And the U.S. again, focusing on the bigger picture. Certainly, one of those questions will be what happened to the F-16. The U.S. will provide whatever
assistance it can in that crash, knowing that U.S. experts can't go to the crash site itself. That too will be a topic of ongoing conversations as the
U.S. focuses on, again, the bigger picture here and where this fight is going.
KINKADE: All right. Oren Liebermann for us at the Pentagon, staying across all those developments. Thanks very much.
Well, still to come, one of the most iconic landmarks in New York City, the Brooklyn Bridge, still looks stunning after almost 150 years since its
opening. Richard Quest takes us on a stroll.
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KINKADE: Welcome back. I'm Lynda Kinkade. I want to turn to China now on a story that's causing a lot of heated debate. Two strangers disciplined a
child mid-flight after she wouldn't stop crying. The two women locked themselves inside the plane's restroom with the toddler, saying they
wouldn't let her out until she calmed down. And as the girl stopped crying, the women filming the video picked her up and told her, if you make any
noise again, we'll come back here.
The twist? The child's grandmother apparently gave them permission. One of the women later posted that video online, sparking backlash over how to
handle tantrums in public.
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Well, Diane Gottsman is an etiquette expert and the owner of the Protocol School of Texas. She joins us now for more on travel etiquette and
parenting. Good to have you with us, Diane.
DIANE GOTTSMAN, OWNER, THE PROTOCOL SCHOOL OF TEXAS AND ETIQUETTE EXPERT: Thank you for having me.
KINKADE: So, this is kind of a horrifying story. You've got these two random strangers and they took it upon themselves to what they described as
educate a one-year-old child by taking that child away from its grandparents into a bathroom on a plane, locking the door, and waiting
until that child stopped crying. And then, police obviously got involved when the plane landed, the airlines investigating. What's your reaction?
GOTTSMAN: So, horrific on so many different levels. So, you know, that is a definite -- no whether -- even if the family member, the grandmother said
it was all right, it's not all right. This child was with strangers locked in a bathroom. It's all very obvious that there is some major, major
problems with this situation.
So -- but there are things that we can do as parents and as passengers to make the flight more pleasant. That is the extreme. That is absolutely not
appropriate.
KINKADE: Yes, exactly. No one obviously wants to listen to a toddler having a meltdown on a plane. Trust me, I have three little kids. They've
all had meltdowns on planes. But this flight that we're talking about was less than three hours, two hours and 45 minutes. And apparently, the little
girl was taking -- was crying upon takeoff, which can happen with toddlers. The pressure on their ears can cause pain, especially if they've got an ear
infection. What's your advice for families traveling with young kids?
GOTTSMAN: Yes. So, I think there are a few things that we can do. You know, there's no guarantees, and I too am a mom of three, so we've
experienced it as parents. But there are some things that we can do. And one of them is choose your flight as wisely as possible. Meaning, you know,
every child is different and especially, if you have multiple children, but if you know mornings are better, they are more engaged, they are happier
then as opposed to afternoons when they get a little cranky. So, every situation is going to be different in terms of what flight you choose, but
pick a good seat if you can.
So, the closer up front you can sit the better because easy in, easy out. And I'm not talking about first class. I'm just talking about maybe logging
on early to try and get a better seat. And of course, you can board early. But it's really not necessary to get on that plane and start apologizing to
everyone.
You know, we as humans hopefully understand and we feel some compassion. And, you know, there are people who like to give out goody bags and ear
plugs. And all of that is great, but it costs money. Not everybody has that. So, I think for parents, it's important to be kind to yourself and
understand that you might have to ask for help. You might be drinking juice and you might have to use your neighbor's tray table, if they don't mind
while you're holding your baby.
So -- and I think that it's important to keep them busy, you know, give them a little -- if they're old enough to understand, bring a little
backpack with all new activities, you know, new little -- things that are going to keep their attention. Plus, I think it's important to talk to your
child, you know, coddle your child, coo with your child.
You know, this is what we do naturally. But what I'm saying is to just give yourself some grace because truly, this was an exception and we do know
that there are other passengers that roll their eyes when moms and dads walk by. But I say, let's not do that. Let's try and smile and understand
as these parents walk by with their toddler and their baby in tow.
KINKADE: And I think to some extent, parents and grandparents need to give themselves some grace. There was an interesting report that came out this
week. The U.S. surgeon general just declared parental stress a critical public health issue. And I just want to bring up a graphic, a statement
from the report. He wrote, mothers and fathers now work many more hours than in 1985, but also spend many more hours every week on primary
childcare, and that doesn't count their total time with -- spent with their children. Demands from both work and childcare giving have come at the cost
of quality time with one's partner, sleep, and parental leisure time.
Now, we know in the case of this one-year-old child who was traveling with the grandparents, they landed in Shanghai. The dad was there when they
landed and apparently quite stressed, as you would imagine. Surely, these days parents need to give themselves some grace as well, right?
GOTTSMAN: Absolutely. I think that it's very important to not over criticize ourselves. We can't take it upon ourselves, we're not -- parents
are not miracle workers. And I think in this case, we have to understand a child of any age can only act up to their age. A one-year-old child cannot
self soothe. They cannot rationalize.
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And these are adults that are taking the responsibility to be punitive with this child. So, I think the burden really lies on what those adults did to
this young child, you know, babies cry. Now, we don't -- I know it's uncomfortable if we're sitting next to them, but, you know, maybe that's
why we should, as passengers, pack smart. We have noise canceling earbuds. We have a nice shawl, you know, that we can wrap around our shoulders and
use as a pillow and, you know, kind of self soothe ourselves as passengers.
So, I do think it's important for everybody just to take a breath, you know, the baby may have to have a diaper change on the flight, and that's
something else. You know, as parents, we want to bring the Ziploc bags so they're airtight. But as a passenger, if you see a mom or dad struggling,
you know, do what you can when you can to help out.
And when all else fails, or not even before anything fails, ask a flight attendant for help. If you're not quite sure where to change a baby or what
you should do, you know, in terms of having to go to the lavatory and then you've got your baby, there's people that can help when you're on that
flight.
KINKADE: And speaking of just general flight etiquette, we've covered so many problems from people putting their feet on a seat to popping on the
flight intoxicated. We know the CEO of Ryanair just this week said he wants to limit the amount of drinks that people can have before they get on a
plane. Just generally speaking, what is the etiquette of plane travel?
GOTTSMAN: So, I think that we need to plan in advance. We know that there is going to be some delays, probably some issues, not -- hopefully, not
critical issues, but, you know, we may not get the seats we want. Somebody may even ask us to change seats, and you can say politely, no, thank you.
You know, if somebody asks you to change -- to trade seats with them, if you want to, that's fine, but it's not necessary.
I think that it's just important to be respectful to each other. You know, wait your line when you're -- wait your turn when you're deplaning. So,
don't push forward and try and get out just because you don't have any bags, make sure that your bin space is close to where you're sitting when
possible, so you're not taking up some other person's space, then they have to go backwards.
It's common courtesy always is best for all of us because it makes everything flow easier.
KINKADE: All right. Diane Gottsman, owner of The Protocol School of Texas and etiquette expert, good to have you with us. Thank you.
GOTTSMAN: Thank you.
KINKADE: Well, we use the word iconic quite a lot. Sometimes it's an overstatement, though certainly not in the case of the Brooklyn Bridge,
which opened nearly 150 years ago, back in 1883. It's been one of New York's most famous landmarks ever since, older than the Statue of Liberty,
the Empire State Building, Penn Station, and nearly every other structure in the city. And as Richard Quest reports, it's hard to imagine New York
without it.
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RICHARD QUEST, CNN BUSINESS EDITOR-AT-LARGE (voice-over): Its existence was once thought impossible. The idea of a bridge to connect the one-time
independent cities of Brooklyn and New York always seemed doomed. Now, the Brooklyn Bridge towers over the East River. Its vibrations like the beating
heart of the city.
QUEST: Not only can you see the Brooklyn Bridge, you can feel it. Traffic going over the balustrades, helicopters overhead, sirens along the FDR. The
Brooklyn Bridge attacks all the senses, in a way. It is truly New York- orama writ large.
QUEST (voice-over): Upon its completion, people marveled at this brilliant feat of 19th century engineering. It became a symbol of the era's optimism.
Built upon underwater caissons, pressurized chambers that the builders entered to dig the river's floor. They now form the foundations for the
towers. After all, this is one of the first suspension bridges of its size ever built. And it paved the way for connections between Brooklyn and
Manhattan.
QUEST: There are actually three bridges covering the East River. There's the Brooklyn, next to it the Manhattan, and behind that the Williamsburg.
And you can remember the names really simply, BMW.
QUEST (voice-over): The Brooklyn Bridge is a tourist attraction that's been immortalized in books, poems, and movies.
The Great Bridge has changed in the 141 years since it was finished. The city's undertaken numerous refurbishment projects to make sure it stays
standing. And only a few years ago, it opened a protected bike lane to allow for more cyclists.
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The Brooklyn Bridge has been a National Historic Landmark for 60 years, and today, every effort is made to ensure it will stay forever locked in the
hearts of New Yorkers and people everywhere.
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KINKADE: Our thanks to Richard Quest. We're going to have much more "First Move" in just a moment. Stay with us.
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KINKADE: Welcome back to "First Move." It's been caught an unimaginable tragedy and a massive blow to the world of sport. NHL hockey star Johnny
Gaudreau and his brother Matthew were killed while riding bicycles in the U.S. State of New Jersey the day before their sister's wedding. The grief
is being felt across the world of hockey.
Mourners on Friday placed flowers outside the Nationwide Arena in Columbus, Ohio, the home of Gaudreau's team, the Blue Jackets. Our Polo Sandoval
reports.
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POLO SANDOVAL, CNN NATIONAL CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): Hockey star Johnny Gaudreau and his younger brother Matthew killed by an alleged drunk driver
Thursday night, on the eve of their sister's wedding where they were set to be groomsmen. State police confirmed the siblings were bike riding in
Southern New Jersey when they were hit by an SUV.
Sean Higgins is the 43-year-old alleged drunk driver. He was charged with two counts of death by auto. Police records showing that he admitted to
drinking five to six beers before the accident and failed a field sobriety test.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Dude, it's so good.
SANDOVAL (voice-over): Gaudreau or in the nickname Johnny Hockey was drafted by the Calgary Flames in 2011.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Number 13, Johnny Gaudreau.
SANDOVAL (voice-over): And signed with the Columbus Blue Jackets in 2022, where he tallied a dozen goals and nearly 50 assists the last season alone.
Johnny played the game with great joy, reads a statement from his team. The impact he had on our organization and our sport was profound, but pales in
to the indelible impression he made on everyone who knew him.
But despite the success in the rink, the true passion appeared to be off the ice as a loving husband and proud father of two babies, the youngest
born this year and carries dad's name. Matthew followed in his brother's footsteps, playing side by side with Johnny and Boston College. Coaches
there described the brothers is full of joy for the sport.
JERRY YORK, FORMER HEAD COACH, BOSTON COLLEGE MEN'S HOCKEY: If you ask us the name of our favorite players, you know, they've got to be both boys.
They're going to be among them.
SANDOVAL (voice-over): An uncle of the Gaudreau brothers releasing the statement saying, last night, we lost two husbands, two fathers, two sons,
but truly two amazing humans.
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KINKADE: Well, only weeks after the Summer Olympics wrapped up, the sports world is back in the City of Light. The competition is now firing on all
four cylinders after Wednesday's ceremony. More than 4,400 athletes competing in more than 500 medal events. The competition will last for 11
days. So, far, China leads the medal table. The U.K. and Brazil are next.
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Well, finally, on "First Move," fans of Oasis are bagging tickets to the group's reunion tour next year. It's been a mad dash to see the band famed
for hits like "Wonderwall" and "Champagne Supernova." But Oasis aren't the only winners. Travel companies are also reporting huge interest.
Spain's eDreams saying searches for flights to the U.K. and Ireland have surged nearly 30-fold since the Britpop band announced its return to the
stage. They might need to do a global tour.
Well, that just about wraps up our show. I'm Lynda Kinkade. Thanks so much for joining us. Stay with CNN. Much more news to come.
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