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President Volodymyr Zelenskyy on Ukraine War's Brutal New Phase; Interview with Poland's Deputy Prime Minister Radoslaw Sikorski. Interview With Polish Deputy Prime Minister Radoslaw Sikorski; Interview With Ukraine's Deep Strike Commander Vector; Interview With Rozetka Co-Founder And Co-Owner Iryna Chechotkina. Aired 10-11a ET

Aired September 13, 2026 - 10:00   ET

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FAREED ZAKARIA, CNN ANCHOR: This is GPS, the GLOBAL PUBLIC SQUARE. Welcome to all of you in the United States and around the world.

Today, a special edition of GPS from Kyiv, where President Trump's envoys visited a week ago as the war with Russia rages on. I spoke to President Volodymyr Zelenskyy about efforts to end the war now well into its fifth year. I talked to him about Russia's brutal strategy to attack civilian targets in cities including Kyiv on a nearly nightly basis.

Plus I'll talk to the foreign minister and deputy prime minister of Poland, the country that has been staunchly supportive of Ukraine from the start of the war. And I'll introduce you to a Ukrainian businesswoman who for the past 21 years has been busy building an Amazon-like company from scratch here. The jewel in her company's crown was a $75 million warehouse outfitted with the latest technology. But last month, Russia destroyed it.

But first, here's "My Take."

President Trump's negotiators for everything, Steve Witkoff and Jared Kushner, seem genuinely awestruck by their latest tete-a-tete with Vladimir Putin. Witkoff gushed that these meetings rank at the top of his life's experiences. Both men talk of Russia as a potential partner and approach the country as businessmen who, like Donald Trump, seek win-win solutions with Putin.

So it's worth recalling a lesson about Putin learned by another businessman-turned-government official, Hank Paulson, the former CEO of Goldman Sachs. As Treasury secretary, Paulson visited Beijing for the Olympics in August 2008, just as the global financial crisis was gathering force and markets were increasingly worried about Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, the two giant institutions that guarantee most mortgages in the United States.

In Beijing, Paulson received news that he said, "took my breath away." Russian officials had approached China and proposed that the two countries jointly dump large quantities of Fannie and Freddie securities. The aim was to intensify the pressure on the already teetering American economy, probably pushing it off the edge. China declined.

Think about what this says at a moment when the American financial system was approaching its worst crisis since the Great Depression. Vladimir Putin was searching for ways to hit America when it was down even though a deeper American crash would inevitably have damaged the rest of the world, including Russia. Putin appeared willing to risk a lose-lose outcome as long as America lost badly.

That's close to the opposite of how a businessman thinks. But Putin has never claimed to be a businessman searching for deals.

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He is a Russian nationalist seeking to restore the power and territory lost with the collapse of the Russian and Soviet empires. Even as his country recedes economically, demographically and politically on the world stage, one wonders what it would take for the administration to recognize that Putin has spent years pursuing a foreign policy aimed at weakening America and its influence.

Consider Trump's war with Iran. Which great power has been Iran's greatest military ally? Russia has supplied Tehran with advanced aircraft, tanks and a slew of other weapons. It shares intelligence and takes American weapons found on the Ukrainian battlefield and sends them to Iran so that Tehran can reverse engineer them and use them against America.

The "Financial Times" recently revealed that Russia has been secretly helping Iran develop ramjet powered supersonic cruise missiles capable of threatening American aircraft carriers. These are not weapons for some abstract geopolitical game. They are designed to defeat American defenses and kill American soldiers.

Trump has a vision of a Western hemisphere in which America reigns supreme. Well, which great power has spent years working against that vision? Between 2001 and 2018, Russia accounted for more than 70 percent of Venezuela's arms imports. Now, the administration has its eyes on Cuba and Nicaragua. Cuba's military inventory is primarily Russian, as is Nicaragua's. The pattern extends to Africa, where Moscow has used arms, money, political support and mercenaries to expand its influence and displace the West.

The Wagner Group began as an instrument operating alongside Russian state power, and became a vehicle for Moscow's ambitions from Libya to the Sahel. Russia has also deepened its military partnerships with North Korea and China. The two other nuclear powers that regard the United States as their principal strategic adversary.

The Trump administration's approach to ending the Russia-Ukraine war has been to basically take Moscow's side in the conflict. Trump has falsely said that Ukraine started the war. He's called President Zelenskyy a dictator. His administration has conceded several Russian positions in advance, that Ukraine will not join NATO, that much of the territory Russia has seized will not be returned, and that the size of Ukraine's military needs to be limited.

American military assistance has dwindled, while the U.S. had for a time suspended vital intelligence support. Ukrainian generals and soldiers I spoke with during my visit to Kyiv described the loss of American support as the greatest strategic blow their country has suffered since Russia's invasion itself. Ukraine and its European partners have found ways to withstand and respond to Russian attacks. The more lasting damage they fear is American abandonment.

There's nothing wrong in seeking a deal with Putin nor with wanting a settlement in which all sides gain something. But diplomacy begins with understanding the person across the table. Witkoff and Kushner see a businessman looking for a win-win. Putin's record suggests something very different. A man who has repeatedly been willing to impose costs on Russia, destabilize other countries and risk losses if doing so weakens the United States.

Hank Paulson learned that lesson in Beijing 18 years ago. It would be useful if America's current businessmen-diplomats learned it in Moscow.

Go to FareedZakaria.com for a link to my "Washington Post" column this week. And let's get started.

The war in Ukraine has entered an even more dangerous phase as Russia and Ukraine trade aerial assaults. Here in Ukraine, drones and missiles pummel cities on a near daily basis.

As America tries to restart peace talks, I spoke with Ukraine's President Zelenskyy on Friday. I was at the Yalta European Strategy conference here in Kyiv. He was on a visit to Canada to secure more weapons and aid that his country desperately needs. He reflected on the dangerous turn the war has taken.

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VOLODYMYR ZELENSKYY, UKRAINIAN PRESIDENT (through translator): Early in the war, the Russians would pretend to hit the military infrastructure. Nowadays, they're openly striking agro-industrial complexes, ports, civilian infrastructure.

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I mean, civilian ports, civilian infrastructure in Odesa, Mykolaiv, Kherson, in the bordering areas, Kharkiv, Chernihiv Oblast. They are striking everywhere, against schools, universities, petrol stations, social welfare facilities, food storage facilities, thermal generation plants.

So the war is in a different open phase. This is not a special military operation. It's an open, all-out war waged by Russia against every living creature aimed at complete occupation of Ukraine.

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ZAKARIA: He also reflected on the anniversary of 9/11 and its relevance to Ukraine.

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ZELENSKYY (through translator): You know, it's a special and important day today, the day of strong people and a day of big tragedy because 11th of September, 25 years ago, a huge blow was dealt against the civilization. More than 3,000 perished in the United States. The Americans, people from many different countries. Some Ukrainians as well.

So I'd like to take this opportunity to express condolences to the victims and survivors of this horrible event 25 years ago. Importantly, it was the time when NATO was able to show its strength by applying Article Five, which means that if people are willing to save and preserve their civilization, the rights, the freedoms, the values they have to respond to every enemy, to every terrorist. The evil must be punished.

It begs for an answer, and at that time there was an overwhelmingly worldwide response. This time, the response to Russian terrorists is provided mostly by Ukraine. In response to the strikes, the killings, the capturing, and the response is justified. The question is to every partner to whom we are thankful, we thank you for being with us on that. But the question is, do you think it's realistically sufficient?

Can we compare it to Article Five arrangements? Can we compare it to the way in which the world, the whole world united around the tragedy of 9/11 25 years ago? I think the answer is not -- it cannot be compared. I think it's very important for our nation to have security guarantees. What are security guarantees? These are guarantees of peace, the peace that Ukraine wants so much.

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ZAKARIA: Next, I'll ask President Zelenskyy about the first ever visit of U.S. envoys Steve Witkoff and Jared Kushner to Ukraine this week, and what it means about the prospects for peace.

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ZAKARIA: Here now is more of my interview with Ukraine's President Volodymyr Zelenskyy.

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ZAKARIA: Mr. President, you just had a very unusual event. The two American negotiators, Steve Witkoff and Jared Kushner, were in Kyiv first time. What did you take away? What did you conclude listening to them? There are reports that they presented old Putin proposals that had already been rejected by the Ukrainians. There were reports that there were even worse proposals. There were more hard line Russian proposals. What was the nature of your conversation with them?

ZELENSKYY (through translator): I'm thankful to Steve, to Jared for them coming out to Kyiv. It was a just decision to come out to Ukraine to support because he has the honor negotiation -- negotiators of this war time. They were to Russia to speak about Ukraine. And I think, you know, that publicly and frankly speaking, publicly, I would always mention it to them. You should have come here.

You should have to understand how people are living here, roaming streets, how challenging it may be to live in between airstrikes. And still we have this life. Putin has not been able to rob this from us. We are online. You are in Kyiv now. The number of guests is staggering. Each your visit to Kyiv is a signal that the life goes on in Ukraine. It goes on and Russia is not able to win over life, also life in Ukraine.

Another thing, I think that Steve and Jared came out because Ukraine had strengthened its presence on the battlefield and international institutions, international intelligence agencies, they're actually discussing the situation in Ukraine.

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I know that Steve and Jared told Putin that Ukraine is now in a different situation on the battlefield than it had been. Russia cannot move with great speed. And if they make any progress, they incur huge losses among the infantrymen. It's a costly process for the Russian federation. Surely for Ukraine, war costs a lot. But Russia is losing a great number of manpower not commensurate with Ukraine's losses. And I do know that the negotiators were able to convey the message.

We spoke with Steve, with Jared on the need to move towards a tripartite meeting, and they agree to this. They said they will be working on that. We've shared some details with them. They shared some of their ideas with us. I intend to speak about that in more detail with the president of the United States of America later on this September.

ZAKARIA: Do you believe that it is still realistic for Ukraine to ask for NATO membership? Because several key members of the administration, the secretary of Defense, the secretary of War, Pete Hegseth, has ruled that out. But do you still believe that Ukraine can be and will be a member of NATO?

ZELENSKYY (through translator): We have to regularly mention it because NATO is not just security guarantees for Ukraine. First of all, well, surely it's security guarantees for Ukraine, though let's be honest, the Ukrainian army is the greatest yet guarantee, security guarantee for Ukraine. Secondly, Ukraine as a NATO member is a security guarantee for Europe. Why? Because there is no other such strong army in Europe yet.

Surely yet Europe is building itself and it will be getting information from us, technologies. We have partner relations. It will develop. But there is no such other army across Europe. So second reason it's the strengthening of Europe. Third, there are risks that regularly show up. It's a question of whether the United States of America is willing to grow its presence in Europe or contrary -- conversely, it will reduce it. At least they do not speak about growing the numbers. Another reason

it's so important for America to have a strong Ukraine in Europe because it will be Ukraine that will strengthen NATO member states with technologies, military experience, strong army, and Ukraine is sharing with America, with other countries through drone deal, other documents, other such arrangements and agreements, and I think there are many more reasons for that.

One of them is guarantees for the Russians. The United States of America, having started negotiations with the Russian federation, would always come back with the following, like you're going to get security guarantees from the United States, from Europe, and Russia always ask us, what kind of guarantees are we going to receive? Ironically, the aggressor nation wants to see security guarantees for themselves, which probably shows that they do not feel themselves as strong as they had felt themselves at this before the start -- at the start of the war.

So the kind of guarantees for them is that as a NATO member, Ukraine will not be able to use its weapon to do anything threatening them because everything would be only possible diplomatically. So I think the very mention of NATO and the membership in the E.U. can be one of the way out from this horrible war.

ZAKARIA: President Zelenskyy, a pleasure to have you. Thank you for taking the time to be with us.

ZELENSKYY (through translator): Thank you. Thank you so much. Goodbye.

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ZAKARIA: When we come back we'll get the view of the war in Ukraine from its neighbor to the west, Poland. That country's deputy prime minister, Radek Sikorski, joins me next.

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ZAKARIA: Moscow appears to be meddling in other nations in Eastern Europe. NATO members there have seen a surge in mysterious drone incidents, many of which have been blamed on Moscow. Such threats to NATO were part of the reason why, according to CNN reporting, CIA director John Ratcliffe made a surprise visit to Moscow last month to deliver a warning.

For more on all of this, I am joined by Poland's foreign minister and deputy prime minister, Radek Sikorski. We spoke in Kyiv.

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ZAKARIA: Radek Sikorski, pleasure to have you on again.

RADOSLAW SIKORSKI, POLISH DEPUTY PRIME MINISTER: Hello.

ZAKARIA: Putin clearly thinks he can outlast the West. Do you think Europe has the staying power?

SIKORSKI: I think Putin fundamentally misunderstands the psychology of democracies. He thought we wouldn't lift a finger when he invaded. We did, and we are slow to be woken to the danger. Putin has been at war with us for a decade and for too long, we didn't accept this fact but now we have.

I think he's making mistakes in attacking us in Eastern Europe because he makes the argument for very large defense budgets. And he's also making a mistake attacking Britain or Germany recently, because that convinces everybody that it's not an East European problem. It's an overall Europe problem. So, he has now rallied us to understand that what's at stake is also our future.

ZAKARIA: And do you think that Europe can manage this process by which the Europeans are now essentially funding the Ukrainian war effort --

SIKORSKI: Well, not essentially. Since January, last year, the United States is contributing nothing.

ZAKARIA: Right. But Europe is buying a lot of American equipment.

SIKORSKI: Yes.

ZAKARIA: Can this -- can this system work? Or at the end of the day, are there things that the U.S. is not selling you that Ukraine needs?

SIKORSKI: Well, it depends how you look at it. It is costing a lot but deterring Putin after he conquered Ukraine would be even more expensive. So, personally I think it's a good investment.

ZAKARIA: You've met Putin. You've negotiated with him. You've -- your countries border each other. You have a long, mostly sad history with Russia. What is your sense of whether Putin would be willing to come to some kind of compromise settlement?

SIKORSKI: Well, his original war aims were extraordinarily ambitious. Essentially, restoring the Soviet Union and Russia as a global superpower. He then saw that that's unachievable. And he wanted to make Ukraine as a sort of a third rate power without access to the sea. That's already unrealistic. He's not going to conquer Ukraine.

So now he's trying to save something from this ridiculous criminal war by claiming on all of Donbas. And even that, you know, he sets these deadlines for his military. All of them are being missed.

ZAKARIA: But when you look at some of these compromises, do you think they could hold where essentially -- you know, this is what's being talked about. Russia keeps what it has, which is about 18 percent of Ukraine. Ukraine is allowed to have a large army, but it's not a member of NATO.

You know, is that -- is that kind of settlement likely to endure? Would both sides agree to it? Would you sign on to it?

SIKORSKI: I'm not going to speculate because there isn't any shortage of pocket chamberlains who are ready to trade other people's land and freedom for their own peace of mind.

ZAKARIA: So, that suggests you would not endorse such ideology?

SIKORSKI: I'm saying that Europe's policy is to sustain Ukraine for as long as it takes, and for Ukraine to make any painful decisions that she will take in her own interest.

ZAKARIA: And you will -- you think if this goes on another five years?

SIKORSKI: I think Putin has two more cards. The possibility of hidden or not so hidden mobilization. He may imagine that if he throws another half a million hapless Russians into the meat grinder then the front will finally crack. It won't.

And he's counting on a really harsh winter. He's destroying civilian power plant, including area heating plant. And he imagines that if Ukrainian cities empty for the winter, that will finally break Ukraine's will to resist. That's also an illusion, because it doesn't actually affect the army's ability to maintain the kill zone on the front line.

ZAKARIA: So, you come out of this hopeful for Ukraine?

SIKORSKI: So, I think if those two cards prove to be insufficient then we might, I hope, have conditions for a ceasefire and a serious negotiation sometime next year.

ZAKARIA: Radek Sikorski, always a pleasure to have you on.

SIKORSKI: Thanks.

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ZAKARIA: Next on GPS, the intensified air warfare is changing the dynamics of the war in Ukraine. I'll talk to one of Ukraine's most important commanders whose deep strike unit is taking the fight right to the heart of Russia.

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ZAKARIA: The war in the skies over Russia and Ukraine is becoming ever more intense. This week, Ukrainian deep strike units struck targets nearly 3,000 kilometers into Russian territory. Their deepest long range drone strike so far in the war.

Russia has also intensified its attacks on Ukrainian cities, pummeling them with a mix of drones and missiles. During my visit to Kyiv, I spoke with the Ukrainian commander, whose unit was the first to strike deep into Russian territory.

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To protect his identity, the commander's face is covered and we can only call him Vector. One final note, a UAV is an unmanned aerial vehicle often called a drone.

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ZAKARIA: So, Vector, tell us, what is this deep strike drone group that you had? Because this is the new thing that Ukraine has been doing.

VECTOR, DEEP STRIKE COMMANDER, DEFENSE INTELLIGENCE OF UKRAINE: Yes. We are this group which set up UAVs. By UAVs, I mean deep strikes. At first we could go over 1,000 kilometers, but now we can go over. As you can see, over 3,000 or 4,000 kilometers.

And we, as a group, developed and set up these UAVs. We started this new type of weapon. And it's like a game changer for us.

ZAKARIA: When you say 3,000 kilometers, you can go to Moscow.

VECTOR: Yes. In the beginning, 500 kilometers was a very long distance for us. But now we have developed our UAVs. And at first we could go over a thousand, then 2,000, then 3,000. And now we can go over around mountains. And now we can go everywhere in Russian-European territory.

ZAKARIA: And when you do this, you use the drones to strike at things like refineries. And the damage people say you have inflicted is billions and billions of dollars.

VECTOR: Yes, of course, all our targets. I mean, all targets of Ukrainian intelligence and Ukraine's army, they must be connected with the Russian army's supply. So, it's very important to destroy storage, ammunition storage, and of course, oil refineries, which give the fuel to their army.

So of course, first of all, we calculate not in terms of this billion dollars, but rather we calculate the fuel that they will not supply to their army. So that's our main goal, to stop the fuel for the army.

ZAKARIA: Tell us a bit about the technology. Because how do you actually find a target?

VECTOR: You know, for the moment the UAVs are the tools and they are responsible for maybe 20 to 30 percent of our success. All other parts of our work is planning. And it's, of course, intelligence.

We receive a lot of information in different ways from satellites, from people from Russia, also from our work. So it's daily work and special teams are working on targets. And of course, we try to find very important places which are not protected. And if at the beginning we needed UAVs extremely and that was the biggest part of our work.

Now, UAVs are just the tools because now we have the possibility to use AI. We can use different software for that. I mean, for planning, for targeting, to control the results. Our UAVs have full autonomy. They can go without any management and can find their targets.

And with the help of AI, with AI tools, they can identify the target. They can identify the right place on the target and attack it. ZAKARIA: So the Russians are, you know, four times as many people. The economy is 10 times bigger. They think they can they can outlast you. What do you think?

VECTOR: You know, we've already had the war for about five years. I mean, an active war after the full invasion. And we've had war from 2014. But we are staying and we have continued, and we are ready to continue to protect our country. Of course, they are very big. They have a lot of resources.

As I see it, all wars, in due time, find a way to end. But of course, everything depends on Russia. If they will end it tomorrow, everything will end tomorrow. And we can see they don't want to end it and we don't have any choice. We just need to continue, to continue our fight and our work, because it's the work for the moment, and we will continue to do it.

ZAKARIA: Vector, a pleasure to have you on.

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ZAKARIA: Next on GPS, I'll bring you the story of a Ukrainian woman who built a tiny electronics store into a business often called the Amazon of Ukraine. Then Russia attacked. We'll be back in a moment.

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ZAKARIA: In 2005, Iryna and her husband, Vladyslav Chechotkin, started a company called Rozetka. It means socket in Ukrainian, and the name was fitting as the company was just a small online electronics retailer back then.

Iryna was the accountant and the courier accepting and dispatching orders. She initially wanted to keep the business a family affair.

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IRYNA CHECHOTKINA, CO-FOUNDER AND CO-OWNER, ROZETKA (through translator): But then things just snowballed. We kept hiring more and more people and the business grew to such a massive scale.

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ZAKARIA; Rozetka gradually became an e-commerce giant. Today, it's often referred to as Ukraine's version of Amazon with 700 locations across 166 cities.

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CHECHOTKINA (through translator): Yes. I never thought that I would have a business of this scale, though I'm very grateful that it happened. (END VIDEO CLIP)

ZAKARIA: Rozetka is considered the backbone of Ukrainian retail, working with some 50,000 vendors and employing over 5,000 people. It's been a lifeline for those employees during the nearly five years of war. And it's also been a lifeline for its millions of Ukrainian customers, delivering the products that they need.

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CHECHOTKINA (through translator): At the start of the full scale invasion, when people were forced to flee their homes and arrived in western Ukraine, we were receiving messages saying, thank you. Everything around us is unfamiliar but we have a source of stability, the ability to place an order with Rozetka and pick it up at a local pickup point right nearby.

This is a sense of stability that followed us here. Our home did not follow us. But there are stable things that remain with us.

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ZAKARIA: Many believe it's because Rozetka is so important to Ukraine and its people that it became a major target. This summer Russia has ramped up its attacks against civilian infrastructure and business, from post offices and shopping malls, to distribution centers and supermarkets. These attacks are aimed at damaging the Ukrainian economy, but also at undermining Ukrainian morale, making it as difficult as possible to live an ordinary life here.

Rozetka has not been spared these attacks. Chechotkina says, over 20 of Rozetka's facilities have been lost due to Russian attacks. Despite these setbacks, they continued operating throughout the war, reopening locations whenever possible.

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CHECHOTKINA (through translator): When we opened our store in Kherson, it was on the third day after the de-occupation. Our customers came in and said, thank you for coming back. It means we have a future.

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ZAKARIA: But in early August, the company faced its biggest challenge yet. Rozetka's crown jewel was a massive state of the art warehouse built in 2017. Located just outside Kyiv, the facility was the company's largest logistics center handling over 100,000 orders every day. In the early hours of August 5th, Russia dealt a brutal blow to the facility

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CHECHOTKINA (through translator): I saw that an air raid alert had started. Staff members messaged to say the alert was on. The message they wrote me was, we're all in the shelter. And the next one was, the warehouse has been hit. (END VIDEO CLIP)

ZAKARIA: The warehouse had been struck by three consecutive missiles. Once Chechotkina had determined that the 92 employees working that day were safe, she started seeking information on the damage that had been done. It was catastrophic.

For 14 days, Iryna avoided the warehouse. She feared that seeing the destruction too soon would break her resolve to keep the company going. When she finally returned, she saw the extent of the damage with her own eyes. The warehouse had been burned to the ground. It was unsalvageable.

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CHECHOTKINA (through translator): I used to think I was strong, but I wasn't ready to come here sooner. You see, this is truly my life's work. I've poured 21 years into this place. My dreams were here.

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ZAKARIA: The Russian attack had struck the very heart of the company. Chechotkina estimates the value of the warehouse at $75 million. She knows that rebuilding it is impossible at this point, but she is determined to keep Rozetka up and running in any way possible.

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CHECHOTKINA (through translator): When it all happened, a huge number of customers wrote messages like, hang in there, we're with you. We'll place orders with Rozetka. Just please hang in there, please.

Those words of support gave us wings and the strength not to give up but to keep trying to build and restructure our processes so the business could keep running.

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ZAKARIA: We asked Iryna if she had a message for the Russian president, but she answered with a message to the world.

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CHECHOTKINA (through translator): I would like to appeal to the international audience for continued support, to help us protect our skies so that Ukrainians can live in peace, children can go to school and businesses can operate, so that we no longer have to live in bomb shelters or constantly check for air raid alerts, and so that our men stop dying.

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ZAKARIA: Thank you to Iryna Chechotkina for sharing her story. And thanks to all of you for being part of this special program from Kyiv. I'll see you back in New York next week.

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