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Glenn Beck

Why Should We Care About the Middle East?; Parents Claim Son, 5, Has Gender Issues

Aired July 13, 2006 - 19:00   ET

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GLENN BECK, HOST: You know, we`ve been -- we`ve been joking about that all day. I might need one of those, but we`re kind of half serious, because what I`m going to say tonight is dangerous in today`s world. I don`t know anybody who is going to lay it out as honestly as I`m going to try to lay out the events of the day for you.

Before I continue, let me make this little disclaimer. This is a stupid cable TV talk show. I`m not going to solve problems here. I`m going to be glossing over a lot. I`ve got a few minutes to give you my philosophy on the entire Middle East. Sure, I`d like to go deeper. We don`t have time. We did on the radio show tonight. And if you want to hear it in depth, you can go to GlennBeck.com and listen to it there.

The last time I talked about this subject was right after 9/11 on the radio show, and we needed FBI intervention. There were armed guards outside of my bedroom of my home. My family and I had to leave the state we were working in at the time and lie to my radio audience and tell you that we were doing it at that state when we were actually across the country. It is a very dangerous thing today. The people involved are nut jobs.

The situation in the Middle East is not pretty today. According to Israeli officials, Hezbollah militants crossed their border, kidnapped two Israeli soldiers -- killing three others.

In response, Israel attacked airport runways and fuel tanks in Lebanon. More than 50 people have died this week in the violence. Earlier today, Lebanon launched missiles into a residential community of Haifa.

Why, if you are sitting as home -- if you`re like me, right now I`d be having a bowl of ice cream and I`d be watching, like, well, watching that cloud again tonight (ph). And you`d see this and say why do I care? This place has been on fire forever.

Here`s why you need to care. Because the ultimate goal of Hezbollah and other terrorist organizations is to make an Islamic state, not just in the Middle East but one that encompasses the entire globe.

Here`s what I do know about the situation in the Middle East. First, for most of my life, I was like you, man. I didn`t give a flying crap. I just wanted everybody in the Middle East to shut up, split the land, get over it, or, you know, let the land just open up and the whole thing could have been swallowed by a sink hole and I wouldn`t have given a flying crap.

Nine 11 changed my opinion overnight. All this stuff about America`s policy toward Israeli, here`s something I know, Israel`s policy towards the Palestinians, our policy, that`s a shell game; it`s bogus. The real story is that the organizations like Hamas and Hezbollah want an Islamic planet. I`ll get to the roots of those two organizations in a second. And they need to perpetuate the anger and the hunger and the plight of their people through phony issues.

That`s why I know, I really know, that the plight of the Palestinians is similar to the plight of the African-Americans in our country. You can -- if you understand what happens in our country on a very small scale, you`ll understand the Palestinian`s plight.

In both cases, their plights are real. But it`s their self-appointed leaders who are holding them down, fostering the seeds of discontent so they can gain power.

I absolutely know that we need to prepare ourselves for World War III. It is here.

How do you prepare? You get the oil monkey off our back. Because if the Middle East -- let me take that back. When the Middle East destroys itself it`s going to drag us into this mess. You`re going to have $20 gallons of gasoline overnight. We`ll have absolutely no power. How screwed are we then?

Here`s what I don`t know about the Middle East. I don`t know how to keep hungry people, in this case, the Palestinians out of the hands of evil monsters like their leaders. I don`t know how to turn back the tide of thousands of years of hatred on both sides.

And finally one thing I don`t know, I remember my grandmother. She was the sweetest lady. She was from Nebraska, Clara Jansen. She liked to bake; she liked to make quilts. I have hundreds of pictures of my Grandma Jansen. Not a single picture of her looks like this. Not one. I don`t know why gun toting grandmas seem to be the prevailing culture in the Middle East, but until I figure that one out, we`re just going to have to do our best and muck through it.

Bob Baer was a CIA field agent specializing in the Middle East. He`s also a best-selling author.

Bob, you were on the show yesterday on television, you were on the radio show today. We talked about that World War III is here, and 1938, that`s about where we are, 1938. With the events of the day are we any closer to the next world war?

BOB BAER, AUTHOR, "BLOW THE HOUSE DOWN": Oh, we`ve moved -- we`ve moved forward in the last 12 hours. Hezbollah has dropped some rockets on Haifa, a major Israeli city. This is a major escalation. We can see this spreading into other countries. We are much closer to Armageddon.

BECK: Bob, let me tell you something. I am the average schmo. And I don`t know about you, Bob, I mean, I really want to have a life. I don`t want to pay attention to this stuff. So I`m sitting there, and I`m watching this, and I think to myself, "This place has been on fire forever." 1967, they had the big war, `73 they had a big war. It didn`t bother us.

Why -- convince me this isn`t 1967.

BAER: Because these guys have got a plan now. And the plan -- let`s get right to the end of their plan, is take out the oil facilities in the Gulf. They even have a price for oil, and that`s between $300 and $400 a barrel, which you`re right; it does bring us to $20 per gallon of gasoline.

In this country, we can`t get people to work. We will go into depression at $20 a gallon. This is where they`re going.

BECK: OK. I designed -- you`re an expert. I`m not. I`m stupid. I`m a rodeo clown. I mean, I`m a recovering alcoholic, a former DJ. I have no idea what I`m talking about. Please help me out. This is -- I sent you a picture of what I like to call the evil family tree. This is how I see the Middle East.

Would you please tell me, take me through this and tell me where I`m wrong. I believe the root of this tree, the base, the trunk of this tree, is Iran. And then you see -- you start to see Hezbollah and Hamas and Syria and al Qaeda. This is how they`re all connected. That Iran is really the base here; are they not?

BAER: Absolutely. The tree is right.

Here`s the problem. Hassan Nasrallah, the head of Hezbollah, the guy that ordered the taking of the two Israeli hostages today, he is an agent of Iran. He`s paid by the Iranians. He`s very close to the Iranian president. He gets his arms from Iran.

You now have Hamas and the Islamic Jihad, the two major Palestinian movements, are entirely funded by Iran, and they`re also pushed by Iran to take the hostage in Gaza. You`ve got the Syrians, who have just pulled out of Lebanon, are saying very openly we are allied with Iran. We have to go wherever Iran is.

BECK: So the way to light this fuse, because I believe the Palestinian thing, it`s a total shell game. But it`s -- it`s not real. It`s like a puppet show, and they`ve been waiting to light the fuse. They have, as you just said, they have this plan. They`ve been waiting to light this fuse. This is the fuse, and it will unite the entire Middle East and make how many millions of holy warriors?

BAER: Glenn, I wish you were wrong, but you`re right. The whole Palestinian issue, they wanted the Israelis to come into Gaza, and today the Israelis are worried something is going to happen in the West Bank, so they`re going to have a three front war, the Israelis. And they`re going to end up killing a lot of civilians, and the Iranians are going to say, "Ha, we told you so. They`re out to kill Muslims, and unless we all rise up and hit back"...

BECK: OK. So let me quickly here -- I`ve only got a minute. Let me quickly take you to how -- we`re talking World War III. Take me to how Venezuela is connected to Iran, or is North Korea connected to Iran? It seems awfully coincidental that those missiles were going off at the same time.

BAER: The North Koreans and the Chinese are major arms suppliers to Iran. You know, I just was in Tehran, and you go to the restaurants and see Chinese technicians eating at the restaurants. They are all over. They`re trading oil for arms.

BECK: Right.

BAER: And Venezuela is saying, yes, you guys want to disrupt the markets? We`ve love oil at $300 a barrel.

BECK: I understand that they -- actually, they want to buy missiles from Iran. Is that true?

BAER: They`re -- it`s the technology. Russia, China, Iran are of the same front.

BECK: OK. Bob, thanks. I apologize that this is such a heavy segment on the program today, but that`s the news of the day. And you know, it is what it is. Bob, thanks a lot.

BAER: Thanks for having me, Glenn.

BECK: You bet.

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BECK: All right. It`s time for what are these people smoking?

It`s a story about a 5-year-old girl who`s about to enter kindergarten in Florida this fall. Nothing wrong with the story so far. Except that the girl -- let`s call her Pat, is actually a boy.

Apparently, Pat`s been diagnosed with "gender dysphoria." Ooh, I`ve got gender dysphoria. It`s a condition in which a person believes that he or she is the opposite gender. Pat`s parents and school administrators think that it`ll be easier for him to blend into kindergarten as a her.

The reason they think that is because Pat, who`s -- let me remind you -- only been on the planet now for a full 60 months, likes to do cartwheels. Who knew that chicks own cartwheels. I mean, she -- he -- the child likes to also play with dolls. Well, so what? It`s not like he`s 42 and playing with dolls. He`s 5. What does he know? He also, I bet you, probably eats paste.

My son prances around once in awhile -- my wife will let her high heels and he`ll put a high-heeled shoe on. I`m not saying that he`s going to dress as a girl now.

My daughter, Hannah, when she was really small, when she was about 5, she used to wear a swimsuit, a heavy sweater and snow boots and used to want to go out to the store like that. She was 5. She didn`t make the decision.

And look at me. I mean, I`m the only one here that could be really held responsible. I`m wearing a pink shirt on national TV.

Psychotherapist Laura Berman is with us now.

Laura, I`ve got to tell you, I don`t -- I don`t know if this is -- well, first, let`s start there. Convince me this is a real condition.

LAURA BERMAN, PSYCHOTHERAPIST: It is a real condition. I mean, I think where you`re -- where it seems confusing is that absolutely little boys play with dolls and dress up in their mother`s high heels and little girls like to play soccer and dress up like boys. That`s all normal.

BECK: It`s -- it`s...

BERMAN: But gender dysphoria is a very different thing. That is where one feels like they`re the opposite gender in their gender`s body. So in other words if you`re a girl, you feel like you`re really a boy, and if you`re a boy, you feel like you`re really a girl. And it`s a real diagnosis.

BECK: OK, OK. Let`s say I buy into that, which, OK, maybe. I mean, there`s a lot of other crazy -- people actually hear voices in their heads, too, and it`s real.

BERMAN: Right.

BECK: So OK, let`s say I buy that.

BERMAN: OK.

BECK: How do you diagnose it?

BERMAN: Well, it`s very tricky with a younger person, because, as you say, you know, when you`re a young child, how do you diagnose it? This child has been through two years of extensive evaluations by numerous specialists and endocrinologists and counselors and therapists who specialize in gender issues.

Gender identity, the identity of yourself as a boy or a girl, is actually established by age 3. So your little boy who dresses up in his mom`s shoes knows he`s a little boy who sometimes plays in his mom`s shoes.

BECK: OK.

BERMAN: This little boy feels very clearly that he`s a little girl, and this is what the specialists, upon observing him, doing play therapy with him, evaluating him have determined over the past two years. Now, it is uncommon...

BECK: I will tell you -- I will tell you, doctor, that there`s just no way I`m going to send my son to school as...

BERMAN: I know.

BECK: ... on any -- do you know how many times doctors are wrong? You send your boy to school in a dress...

BERMAN: I know.

BECK: ... he`s forever -- yes, that`s -- you know what that is, that`s the kid who used to wear the dress. He`s forever that. You can`t make a mistake on this one.

BERMAN: No, you can`t, and it is a big decision that the school and the parents are making. And in fact, the school is sort of straddling a little bit, because they are actually requiring that this child not come to school as a girl, per se, but with a gender neutral name, wearing gender neutral clothes, and he`ll be wearing a gender neutral bathroom.

So they`re not taking this child into school and saying, "Here`s Sally" and putting him in a skirt. They`re taking him into kindergarten with gender neutrality.

BECK: Wait a minute. This is making my head hurt. OK, first of all, a kindergarten that has a gender neutral bathroom drives me nuts! The second thing is a boy wearing gender neutral clothes.

BERMAN: No skirts.

BECK: So could we be -- could we compromise here and just dress him as a really butch lesbian and call it a day?

BERMAN: They`re talking about shorts and slacks and shirts, basically.

BECK: They`re boy clothes. All right, all right. Laura, thank you, I appreciate it. This is going to make my head blow off my shoulders.

Jeff Gardere, he`s an expert on mental health issues. He`s authored several books on parenting.

Jeff, I`m going to give you full disclosure here. I am 42 years old. I am riddled with ADD. When I went in for my evaluation, my doctor said to me -- I said, "I don`t know. Do you think I might have ADD?"

He just laughed. He said, "Glenn, I don`t think I`ve met somebody with -- that is more ADD than you."

Now, I started about a year ago -- I`m not taking it now. I started medication. And I was taking some medication for it, blah, blah, blah.

The thing I said on the air when I went through this was there is no way that I would give this medication to my kid, because I need to be -- I need to know who I am and to be aware enough to be able to regulate and know what`s going on with me. How can you possibly treat a kid with this?

DR. JEFF GARDERE, CLINICAL PSYCHOLOGIST: It is so difficult. I would think that the situation that the parents are in -- because they want to listen to what this child is saying, but yet at the same time how can you trust what a 5-year-old is saying?

Both you and Dr. Berman are absolutely correct. You have 5-year-old boys who play like girls and 5-year-old girls who play like boys. So this must be the most difficult thing. And I just think at some point someone may have found out they`ve made a big mistake or perhaps they may have saved this child`s life.

BECK: If you find out that this is a big mistake, don`t you think that this -- I mean, this is borderline child abuse? You are messing with things that are going to affect this child forever.

GARDERE: Well, Glenn, certainly this is pretty new territory and mistakes have been made, mistakes can be made, and so at this point I believe the parents are stepping out on faith, but they will not be prosecuted for the simple fact that the experts have diagnosed this child with gender dysphoria.

BECK: Right.

GARDERE: It`s documented.

BECK: Oh, the experts, they`re always saying something. I mean, how many times do I have to be told butter is bad, then butter is good, then butter is bad. Shut up, experts. You don`t know what you`re talking about.

GARDERE: Well, I agree with you, and I`m one of those experts, but I hope that I am giving you some of the -- some of the proper information.

BECK: Well, you`re one expert -- you`re one expert that`s right.

GARDERE: Thanks a lot. And I like that pink shirt, by the way.

BECK: Thank you very much. It`s actually more fuchsia than pink.

GARDERE: It`s very nice.

BECK: Let me tell you something. A butch lesbian could wear it, a homosexual could wear it, a straight man can wear it.

GARDERE: And a great talk show host can wear it, too.

BECK: God bless you, Doctor. How do you recover if they find out that this is a mistake? How does he recover from this?

GARDERE: Well, I think what`s going to end up happening, Glenn, this child will be in psychotherapy probably for the rest of his or her life in this particular situation. So, if at some point the child realizes, "Hey, really, maybe I am a boy and I want to behave like a boy," then certain things can be done in the therapy.

This child will be monitored. This case will be monitored. So hopefully there will be enough controls, checks, and balances here. And I just pray for the parents that they`ve made the right decision.

BECK: Thanks, Jeff. I appreciate your time.

I will tell you that it amazes me that we`ve been told forever little boys don`t have to play with trucks and army men, and you let them play with dolls. And all of the sudden, "Hey, they must be a girl." It`s nuts.

Thanks.

(COMMERCIAL BREAK)

BECK: I`m Glenn Beck, and thank you for watching the show. I do the third most listened to radio show in all of America nationwide every day, and one of the best radio guys in the country is on WLS 890 a.m. in Chicago. His name is Roe Conn, and he`s here with us.

Hi, Roe.

ROE CONN, RADIO TALK SHOW HOST: Hey, Glenn. I thought you were going to talk about yourself as being one of the best radio guys in the country.

BECK: I mean, it`s true, but you were on vacation. You went and you were in, I believe, Aspen killing Ken Lay last week...

CONN: Yes. Burying his body, actually.

BECK: Right. And then you had a chance to see Bill Clinton give a speech to 100 people?

CONN: Yes, this was pretty fascinating, actually. He was at the Aspen Institute, the Ideas Festival, which is a really, really cool event every year where they bring Republicans and Democrats, policy makers from all over the world together to talk about big problems.

And this year Bill Clinton came at the last minute. He was, like, a last minute add where he just, like, showed up: "I want to make a speech to all you people about foreign policy."

BECK: What did he say -- I mean, I`m sure you`re following what`s happening in the Middle East where the whole side of the planet is on fire.

CONN: Right.

BECK: What -- did he give any ideas at all on what we should be doing right now?

CONN: Well, you know what was interesting, this actually came up. This was last Friday that he made the speech, and obviously all the stuff that`s happened in the last couple of days had not yet occurred.

But his point was that we need to talk. That was -- that was his answer to almost everything, which I kind of found to be a little -- a little shallow...

BECK: Sure.

CONN: ... in terms of foreign policy. Yes, you know, you can -- it certainly is a great idea to sit down and talk and try to hash out the problems before, as he said, people die...

BECK: Roe, let me ask you -- I mean, I`m all for talking. I`m on talk radio; so are you.

CONN: Right.

BECK: I`m all for talking. But when will someone -- you know what? When will somebody actually come out and say this? The reason why I`d like to talk to Hezbollah, the reason I`d like to talk to Hamas, the reason I`d like to talk to North Korea and Iran is to keep them busy and misdirected while I`m plotting their death? I mean, when is enough with these people?

CONN: Yes, I mean we`ve done so much talking, and this is the part of the speech that I kind of had a problem with. Was OK, we`ve talked and talked and talked. At some point when we make an agreement with these people, they have to live up to their side of it. We`ll try to live up to our side of it. They have to live up to their side of it. And then when they don`t live up to their side of it, there have to be consequences.

BECK: Right.

CONN: And nobody really wants to talk about what those consequences are.

BECK: Yes, that`s where it always gets murky.

Now I saw the news, you know, in Chicago this week on the same day that the Indian train bombings happened. The rest of America may have been kind of watching over in India, but we quickly picked up on the train in Chicago. Not terrorists. What did it turn out to be?

CONN: Well, it was a very scary story that day. Because obviously, New York, Chicago, and L.A., their transit systems had gone sort of on a higher alert, because of the India train bombing. And it was 7/11, so we were wondering if there was some sort of math to that.

And then all of the sudden we get a report about 5:15 in the afternoon that smoke is coming out of a subway train in Chicago, and they evacuated 1,000 people out of the train. And it turns out the deal is that half of the trains in Chicago are from the Johnson administration, and I think the Andrew Johnson administration, not the Lyndon Johnson...

BECK: Roe, let me tell you something. It could be worse. They could be new trains from the Massachusetts Turnpike Authority.

CONN: Yes.

BECK: So it could be -- it could be from the people that brought you the Big Dig.

Roe, thank you so much. We`ll talk to you again soon.

CONN: Thanks Glenn.

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(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

BECK: Something that I have in my home called ClearPlay, which is a weird VCR that you take -- you take the little jump drive and you plug it into the back of your computer, and you type in the movie that you`re looking for on their Web site.

You say, "I want it to be rated G, or I want it to be PG-13," or you can leave in all of the sex, but no swear words, or take out all the violence, or whatever, and it downloads the program that changes it. So far, I haven`t been able to find out how to make it put more sex in it.

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BECK: You know, I don`t watch rated R movies, and they took the -- what was it -- CleanFlicks, and the Supreme Court said you can`t do it. You can`t change rated R movies. It is not your property.

And there are a lot of people -- we`re trying to get a guest on that will talk a little bit about that and tell us why exactly, Hollywood, you will edit the movies for airplanes but you won`t sell them, yet you`ll add more footage to make it NC-17 and you have no problem selling that. It`s an artist thing that I just don`t understand.

We have Christy Lemire here. She`s going to talk a little bit about movies this weekend. What, Christy, is going to be the one that knocks out "Pirates of the Caribbean" this weekend?

CHRISTY LEMIRE, MOVIE CRITIC, THE ASSOCIATED PRESS: Nothing.

BECK: I didn`t think so.

LEMIRE: You could shoot a movie of yourself hanging out in your backyard and it would be better than both movies coming out this weekend.

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BECK: Wow.

LEMIRE: Yes, it`s bad. You have "You, Me, and Dupree," which is Kate Hudson and Matt Dillon. They play newlyweds. And Owen Wilson is their clingy buddy, the best man at the wedding, who has like no job and no home. And everyone has a friend like this, who`s kind of clingy and like says the wrong thing, doesn`t know when to call it a night, but Owen Wilson`s character is so over-the-top. Like, he`s impossible. He`s totally unrealistic, even for comedy. I mean, he burns down their house. He reenacts the butter scene in "Last Tango in Paris," which, yes, you`re not going to get on your Clean Play. And it`s just over the top. So you`ve got that.

BECK: You know, I really like Owen Wilson. I think he`s really -- I think he`s funny. For the life of me, I can`t think of a movie that I thought he was good in, but I...

LEMIRE: "Wedding Crashers"?

BECK: I didn`t see it, rated R.

LEMIRE: Oh, yes. That`s true. Did you see "Shanghai Noon" or "Shanghai Nights"?

BECK: I saw one of those, and that`s one that came to mind that I thought wasn`t all that good. Why do I have this impression that he`s funny and good?

LEMIRE: No, he is funny and he`s good, but he`s the same guy in everything, sort of this unflappable slacker. And he can do other things. He was in an excellent film in 1999 called "The Minus Man," where he played a serial killer, and he was chilling. And it`s totally unlike the surfer dude, stoner dude that we`ve come to know, so he can do more, and I wish he would.

BECK: Do you have a star rating yet?

LEMIRE: I would give it 1 1/2 stars, but we also have a very special new system in place for you called Glenn Heads. So we`re going to give it 1 1/2 Glenn Heads. How`s that? Is it working for you? I worked really hard on this. Big old Glenn Heads.

BECK: It`s really not. Yes, thank you very much. All right, "Little Man" is also coming out.

LEMIRE: Oh, my god.

BECK: This from the people when brought us "White Chicks," which I -- holy cow, that looked bad. Is "Little Man" as bad as the trailer looks?

LEMIRE: "Little Man" is death. Yes, "Little Man" just screened like Wednesday night at 7:30 for critics, because they don`t want to get any kind of word of mouth at all about this. This is the Wayans brothers who did -- yes, they did "White Chicks." They did "Scary Movie." So you know what you`re getting into walking into this: boob jokes, fart jokes, poop jokes, name it.

Guys get kneed in the groin repeatedly. It`s really stupid. It`s just crass (INAUDIBLE) whatever. But Marlon Wayans plays like a two-foot- six jewel thief. And they`ve shrunken him down to size technologically just to get this, and he sneaks into a house to steal a diamond. He pretends to be a baby. And so he gets to wear like cute, little onesies, and beanies, and...

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BECK: And the laughs ensue.

LEMIRE: It`s horrible.

BECK: All right, Christy, talk to you on the radio tomorrow.

LEMIRE: Bye. See you. Bye.

BECK: Bye-bye.

All right. Let`s go "Straight to Hill," it`s Erica Hill, the anchor of "PRIME NEWS" on Headline News. Hi, Erica.

ERICA HILL, CNN HEADLINE NEWS ANCHOR: Hello, Glenn!

BECK: You know what? We`re not going to even mess around, because I said to my wife -- actually, no, my wife said to me last night when she was watching the show, she said, "What kind of crappy show that is, you know, based on the news doesn`t get to the news with the news person?" And I said, "Yes, dear"...

HILL: I don`t know, Glenn. What kind of show?

BECK: A really crappy one? Could that be?

HILL: So then I`ll give you news right away. How`s that?

BECK: OK, yes.

HILL: Actually, this is a pretty serious story. It`s an update. It`s one we`ve been following closely at Headline News. I know you`ve been following it also on your show, Glenn. Jury selection in the murder trial of John Couey was actually cancelled this afternoon.

As you may know, he`s charged with the kidnapping and murder of 9- year-old Jessica Lunsford. It happened last February in Florida. Well, he confessed to the crime, led investigators to the girl`s body. That confession was ultimately thrown out a couple of weeks ago.

Jury selection had started on Monday. It was slow-going, though, and the judge finally said the entire jury pool had been tainted by pretrial publicity. Now, keep in mind the trial had already been moved once.

BECK: OK. Let me ask you this. You may not be able to answer this because you`re a journalist and you don`t have opinions on anything, but let`s take it out of the Couey thing. OK, this is a completely different case, nothing like the Couey case, all right?

But it happened -- let`s say, you`re in Atlanta, and it happens in Atlanta. You hear a guy who has done something with a horse or something. And he confesses, "Yes, I stole Farmer Brown`s horse," and it`s all over the news, because horse-stealing big in Atlanta, I hear.

HILL: Huge.

BECK: Can you actually -- it`s then retracted. They now say, "Well, by the way, it was on a technicality. They had to take back his confession," could you actually be on that jury?

HILL: You know, I have to say, I understand why it`s tough and why they have to move trials, because I`ve only had jury duty once. And it was something I had never heard of, so it made it easier.

But I actually went home and I discussed this actual case with my husband when the confession was thrown out, because he just finished law school. And I said, you know, "How do you deal with a case like that when it`s such a high-profile media case?" Can you ever get a fair trial anywhere? Because, like you said, everybody hears that the guy confessed. So, I mean, I think it`s got to be tough.

BECK: She didn`t even give an answer, did she? She didn`t really give -- you are such a journalist.

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BECK: You never really answer...

HILL: ... agreeing with you that it`s difficult to find a jury.

BECK: It was a hypothetical. It was a situation. I wasn`t asking about finding a jury; I was talking about you.

HILL: I knew what you meant, though.

BECK: Yes, I know, and I know what you`ve just done. Next story, please.

HILL: All right, this one really going to be good news for all of us. New high for oil today, closing $76.70 a barrel. That rise is due to escalating violence in the Middle East, also a pipeline attack in Nigeria. This all means concerns about a possible disruption in supply from the world`s major oil-producing countries. Don`t forget, there still are the issues with Iran.

A big drop in U.S. crude supply, by the way, not helping either. But despite all of it, demand for gas still pretty high in the U.S., even as we know, as prices continue to rise. I think they`re around like $3 bucks a gallon at this point.

BECK: I have a solution.

HILL: What`s your solution?

BECK: I have a solution. Everybody`s like solar panels, hydrogen cars. I have a solution for America. Ready? Here it is: We are such label hogs. If gas is the only thing that we -- it should be cheaper. Everything else is always better if it`s more expensive.

HILL: That`s kind of true, isn`t it?

BECK: It is. I say we start opening Ralph Lauren gas stations, $100...

HILL: Next thing you know, they won`t be able to get enough of Gucci gas.

BECK: Absolutely. You could say -- or a Starbucks gas station. You could...

HILL: You know what, though? I`m still shopping at the outlet, my friends.

BECK: You could drive up and say, "Vente unleaded, please." It`s be great. It`d be $5, $6, $7 a gallon. And everybody would be like, "Oh, he`s got a Starbucks tank."

(CROSSTALK)

BECK: That`s great. All right, Erica, do we have time for one more?

HILL: I think I can get it in real quick.

BECK: Shut up, three stories with Erica!

HILL: Exactly. Shut up, and we`ll get to it. OK, so higher gas prices, more costly travel on the roads and in the sky. You might have noticed, though, too, a lot of delays, a lot of cancellations this summer, adding to more frustration. It`s because of thunderstorms, which of course delay you no matter where you are.

Good news. The FAA has this new system called the Airspace Flow Program. Basically, it lets air travel control better target the flights that are actually going to be affected by storms, lets the other ones continue onto their destination. Bottom line...

BECK: I think you`re out of time.

HILL: ... you were delayed.

BECK: OK, thanks a lot, Erica. That was a fascinating last story. It was. I loved every second of it. I did. There you are, honey. Real news from a real program.

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BECK: If you`ll indulge me for just a second, I`ve got to tell you a story. Last night, I go home and I`m having dinner with my family, and we`re sitting around the dinner table. And my son, who is now almost two, Raphe, was sitting there and he was eating a tomato.

And he loves tomatoes. And we sliced it up, and he started eating it. He is such a neatnik that there were the tomato seeds all over his little tray there. He stopped, and he looked at me, and I knew exactly what he wanted. And he wanted a napkin.

I handed him the napkin. Swear to you, he`s not even two yet, he slowly picked up every tomato seed, put them in the napkin, closed it, looked at me again. I handed him another one. He put that one down so he could wipe his hands. Then I continued to eat.

I`m raising Felix Unger. I don`t know what`s up with this kid. He`s a natural, neatnik and naturally polite.

Recent studies have shown that manners now are a thing of the past. I mean, how many people do you see that are like doing this as dinner? I know one is my producer, Stu, the producer of the radio show. We decided to see -- you know where they used to send girls to finishing school? That`s what we did with Stu.

(BEGIN VIDEOTAPE)

BECK (voice-over): Do you ever wonder what happened to the art etiquette? People held the door for each other, looked at each other in the eye when speaking, and a handshake was a given? Today it`s being replaced with text messages, e-mails, obnoxious MySpace accounts.

Are we raising a generation of kids with absolutely no manners that are going to grow up to be total slobs? Well, you know, probably. But fortunately, there`s a place in the heart of Manhattan where decorum still means something.

At Ophelia DeVore, the faculty prides themselves on teaching young women proper etiquette and how to be a lady. But can just any slob be transformed into Miss Manners? We decided to put the school to the test and enrolled one of our own staff members.

This is Stu, senior writer, radio sidekick, and total slob. Frankly, I think Stu needs all the help he can get.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Hey, good afternoon, Stu, how are you?

STU BURGUIERE, GUY WHO MAKES GLENN LOOK GOOD: I`m good. How are you?

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Nice to meet you.

BECK: We placed Stu in a class of his peers, you know, young, black girls, ranging from 11 to 16. Let`s be honest. If these kids were any older, Stu wouldn`t be able to keep up.

We started with the basics.

BURGUIERE: Hi. I`m Stu. How are you?

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Stu, nice to meet you.

Well, that`s not too bad. Stu had great eye contact. Sometimes it`s good to give a little space when you`re just meeting someone. And just in case maybe you haven`t -- you know, you had a lunch, and you haven`t had a chance to brush your teeth, or you know, if a little mouthwash. It`s nice to sort of give a little space. And that helps. And then, as you...

BURGUIERE: Are you saying I have bad breath?

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: No, absolutely not, Stu.

BURGUIERE: If I had bad breath, would you tell me?

BECK: Hum, that might be a topic for a different segment. Let`s move on.

At Ophelia DeVore, they stress the importance of looking your very best. And then there`s Stu.

BURGUIERE: I dressed up. I thought this was good.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: OK. We`ll go through that.

BECK: All right. What`s next?

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Hygiene.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Hygiene, very good.

BECK: OK. As far as we can tell, Stu seems, you know, OK with hygiene, with the exception of the occasional pit stain and remnant of last night`s dinner on his face. All righty, next subject: conducting yourself in a public setting.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Let`s see. If we have an elderly person get on the bus, do we give up our seats? Stu, what do you think?

BURGUIERE: What`s the situation, you`re on a bus?

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Elderly person comes on. Would you give up your seat for that person?

BURGUIERE: Give it -- I`m already in it?

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Yes.

BURGUIERE: I mean, I`m there first? Like if we`re at the same -- if it`s a tie, I think the tie goes to the elderly.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: OK...

BURGUIERE: But if I`m already there, I think it`s mine, right?

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: I can appreciate your sense of competition. Let`s just say you were up there in your years, 95, 100, and maybe walking with a cane, need a little help. Would you appreciate it if a younger person gave up their seat to you?

BURGUIERE: I`d appreciate it, but I think I should just be faster.

BECK: Good job, Stu, always looking out for number one.

All right, now, our biggest challenge: table manners. This is something Stu really has none of. He chews with his mouth open, gets food everywhere. And, for Stu, a fork is really something he usually finds in the middle of the row.

BURGUIERE: So you have three forks?

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Yes.

BURGUIERE: OK. Like, couldn`t you just, like after you eat something, just kind of go like this, and then you can use that one again, and you don`t have to make the people wash that one?

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: That`s very kind of you.

BURGUIERE: That`s etiquette.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Yes, it is. But...

(CROSSTALK)

BECK: All right. Let`s see how he did.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Maybe a button-up shirt, slacks, like his outfit, change it.

(LAUGHTER)

BECK: And how he uses his utensils?

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: That wasn`t very smart, because they had the fork there for you to use, not for you to wipe off.

BECK: Ah, Stu, still a ways to go.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Practice your etiquette, because it needs some improvement.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: When he commented -- when she said, "Don`t pick your teeth," and he slapped her a five, that was really bad.

(LAUGHTER)

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Well, I think he kind of acted just a little bit childish today, but he did a very good job.

BECK: There just may be hope for him yet.

BURGUIERE: You guys are great.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Thank you.

BURGUIERE: I learned so much.

(APPLAUSE)

I`m happy for myself.

(END VIDEOTAPE)

BECK: We get a ton of mail from people who listen to the radio show that say, "More Stu. Stu needs to be on the show," and this is what you get. This is what you get, you jerk. You had 13-year-old girls talking down to you, you know that?

BURGUIERE: Yes, but these weren`t normal 13-year-old girls, Glenn.

BECK: What do you mean?

BURGUIERE: That place is like -- it`s like the hall of justice. It is like the superhero kids there. They are absolutely amazing.

BECK: You know what? I actually talked at one point about sending my kids to, you know, a place like -- you know, just for, you know, some session there or something for summer. How close to child abuse do you believe that is?

BURGUIERE: Oh, my god. I don`t think it`s child abuse. I think, actually, your son, Raphe, might need it. I heard the story you were telling about the tomato seeds?

BECK: Yes, oh, he`s physically incapable, Stu, of continuing a meal - - was that the chair, the leather sound that made that sound or was that you?

BURGUIERE: You see, Glenn, you don`t understand etiquette. You`re supposed to look past things like that. That`s...

(LAUGHTER)

BECK: Are you sitting on a whoopee cushion? Are you sitting on a whoopee cushion? Stand up.

BURGUIERE: No, I`m not.

BECK: Oh, my gosh. No, he`s not.

BURGUIERE: Just a fusion.

BECK: OK.

BURGUIERE: Just a fusion.

BECK: Well, excuse me for that, or as the case may be -- you`re such a pig.

(LAUGHTER)

BURGUIERE: What?

BECK: You are such a pig.

BURGUIERE: Look, Glenn, I mean, you know, you need to understand that, you know, etiquette is something that -- it`s around still, but it`s pretty much past.

BECK: Sure.

BURGUIERE: And I think, you know, what we can do now to kind of maintain that level is just, when other people screw up, ignore it. That way etiquette lives on.

BECK: You are a guy that wouldn`t even wear a tie to a wedding.

BURGUIERE: That is not true. You tell that story different every time.

BECK: That is not -- it`s not true.

BURGUIERE: I didn`t wear sandals. I didn`t wear shorts. I didn`t wear a tank top. I wore, well, probably this shirt, because it`s the only dress one I have.

BECK: Would you do me a favor? Do me a favor, because Stu just said, "Should I button the top button?" And I said, "Are you wearing a logoed t- shirt underneath your shirt?" Unbutton the button there. See, exactly, you`re 12.

BURGUIERE: What do you mean I`m 12?

BECK: You`re 12 years old.

BURGUIERE: I just happen to be a person that enjoys...

(CROSSTALK)

BECK: OK, now we`re going to have to charge you for that. Your wife must be so proud, seriously.

BURGUIERE: I think she`s proud. You know, you can actually ask her, because you can see her picture on my MySpace page, which at MySpace.com/StuRadio.

(CROSSTALK)

BECK: I`m going to charge you for that, as well. He`s trying to -- I`m taking you off my top eight friends.

All right, back...

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BECK: All right, looking at the e-mail inbox, the majority coming in is about the Colorado Springs case, where a developmentally challenged girl was sexually assaulted in the school, and experts claimed that the attack - - this is unbelievable -- was "pleasurable" for her.

First, Emily in Michigan writes, "Please continue to follow the story about Kalie McArthur. Rarely is there any coverage about issues like this, although it is widespread and disturbing. Love your show."

Thanks. I got to tell you, I hope you`re wrong. If this is widespread, then we have bigger problems then I thought. I mean, the entire world is on fire today. I can`t take another widespread problem right now.

Matt in Colorado writes, "Hey, Glenn. Just wanted to say your spots on Kalie McArthur have been moving. I have written e-mails to the governor of Colorado, both my senators, my representative, my state senator, my state representative, the Colorado attorney general, and the Colorado commissioner of education. Kalie deserves justice."

Yes, Matt, she does, but it doesn`t seem like she`s getting any right now, and it seems very, very odd to me that it`s us that`s trying to get it for her.

I want you to know, if you`re a new viewer to the show, or you`ve never heard of me before, I am not "Mr. Cause." I barely have the attention span to do this show every day, but we will continue to follow Kalie`s case until something gets done. And I`ve got an amazing update about the mayor coming in the next couple of days.

Now, you know, not everybody is, you know, quite so happy with me. Here`s one. "You`re always talking over your guests and interrupting them. Rude! Are you sure you`re not French?"

Actually, Donna, I`m pretty sure. Maybe because I haven`t head-butted anybody in quite a while.

Suzanne chimes in, "Please get Glenn Beck off the air. He`s a moron." Actually, a Mormon. "Today, he declared that we are in World War III. I`d like someone a little more intelligent to make that assessment."

I mean, usually we fix spelling mistakes, but, Suzanne, of all the words to misspell, you misspelled the word "intelligent"? I`ve got to tell you -- well, first of all, I agree with you. I would like somebody more intelligent, or, as you said, "ingelligent," to realize how serious this situation is. Until we all do, we`re not facing up to the legitimate threat.

And our last e-mail. "Wow. Your guest in that last segment was hot. How do I reach him? Should I try myspace.com/StuRadio? Jessica Alba, Los Angeles."

All right, thanks, Stu, for the good use of time on national television.

You can e-mail me at GlennBeck@CNN.com. See you tomorrow on the radio, you sick freak.

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