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Muslims Author Prevented from Speaking at Brown; Congressman Wants to Reinstate Draft; Tom Cruise Weds Katie Holmes

Aired November 20, 2006 - 19:00   ET

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GLENN BECK, HOST: Hey, it`s perfect. Charlie Rangel in the news, talking about reinstating the draft. And you know what? The guy actually may have a point, but not in the way he thinks.
Plus, the star of "Passion of the Christ", Jim Caviezel, stops by, next.

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ANNOUNCER: Tonight`s episode is brought to you by Charles Rangel Throat Lozenges. If sticking your foot in your mouth has given you a scratchy throat, buy Charles Rangel Throat Lozenges. They`ll make your throat pain turn around (ph).

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BECK: OK. I just want you to know from the outset, I`m damn near nuts. So I don`t know if anybody else will connect these stories, but there are three stories that may not seem connected to other people, but me, oh yes. Listen.

They are connected, and I want you to bear with me here for a second. First story is the Congressman Charles Rangel story, where he`s announced when the Democrats take over Congress in January, he`s going to propose a bill reinstating the draft.

Second story, Army General John Abizaid from CentCom gave a speech about Islamic extremism at Harvard and said if we don`t have the guts enough to confront this ideology today, we will go through World War III tomorrow.

And the third story is Nonie Darwish. This is a Muslim woman who is - - was supposed to speak at Brown University on the hijacking of her own religion. She was told not to come to campus, because she was too controversial.

Here`s the point tonight. Charles Rangel may just be playing politics, but in a way, he`s right. We will need the draft because, as General Abizaid said, I don`t think we have the guts to face this ideology. And soon, we will be facing World War III if we don`t stop with the P.C. nonsense that has been happening to people like Nonie Darwish all over the country and the globe.

We need to wake up and face the truth. Extremist Islam is a cancer that needs to be cut out before it destroys and kills us all. Here`s how I got there.

Political correctness in this country has been out of control for a long time. A few months ago we were discouraged from showing you this not so tongue in cheek graphic. Do we have it?

It was told -- we were told we shouldn`t play that, because it`s inappropriate. But now, the consequences of political correctness have gone from just agonizingly annoying to extremely dangerous.

In Nonie Darwish`s book, "Now They Call Me an Infidel", she says that since she was a child, she was never taught about peace. She was taught that honor and pride can only come from jihad and martyrdom.

She was invited by a campus Hillel group to speak at Brown University last Thursday, but the event was called off, because Muslim students complained. This from the same university that recently held what I would label an anti-Israel, anti-American Palestinian solidarity week.

The Hillel group actually caved, saying it didn`t want to upset its, quote, "beautiful relationship," end quote, with the Muslim community.

Brown`s women`s center also backed down from sponsoring the event, even though Darwish was going to speak out against the harsh treatment of women in certain Muslim countries.

The message coming out of Brown is clear, and it is spreading all across this globe like a disease. Muslims who dare criticize or question their own people are quickly denounced and silenced by other Muslims.

We are living in a state of denial. Just like in Europe, we are now caving in to fear of Islamic extremism, instead of having an open and honest dialogue. Europe is about to pay a very, very heavy price. America and the rest of the world needs to wake up.

We need to focus, man. We are facing a relentless enemy in Iran and Islamic extremism. We need to get ourselves out of this self-imposed Willie Wonka world where we can lick the wallpaper. Wake up to reality. If you don`t act now, it will be World War III.

And as General Abizaid said, Charles Rangel`s wish will come true. We will need the draft, because hundreds of millions will be fighting and dying.

Here`s what I know tonight. I know that Charlie Rangel is playing politics with reinstating the draft proposal. It is ridiculous. And while it`s taken only 11 days for the Democrats to implode, we actually may need the draft soon, because we will be in the middle of a global war of biblical proportions and then, you know what? You`ll be seeing this all too serious graphic very often, except this time, that graphic will be for real.

Here`s what I don`t know. I don`t know what Nonie Darwish was going to say at Brown that has people so afraid, but they wouldn`t give her a forum. I will.

Joining me is Nonie Darwish. She is the author of "Now They Call Me Infidel: Why a Renounced Jihad of America, Israel and the War on Terror".

Nonie, this is the third time you have been disinvited from an event. Am I correct?

NONIE DARWISH, AUTHOR, "NOW THEY CALL ME INFIDEL": Correct. A lot of people in America are asking where are the Arab voices? Where are the moderate voices from the Middle East who are speaking against terrorism?

Unfortunately, when we try to speak out, there are very powerful voices who are trying to silence us.

BECK: Why do you suppose -- why do you suppose that is? It took an act of God to get our special on television last week. It was the highest rated show on all of cable news, and it -- to me, it was nothing about me or anything else. It was about people are starving for the truth on this.

Why are you shut down every step of the way?

DARWISH: There are very powerful Muslim voices and organizations in America who actually call us even and tell us you have crossed the line.

BECK: OK. So why is that? Are they -- are they the bad Muslims? Are they good Muslims with a misunderstanding of what you are saying? Why?

DARWISH: I don`t think they`re bad. I think what happened is we grew in a culture that forbid us from speaking or criticizing our own culture. My culture is very sensitive to criticism. They get offended very easily.

I`m not speaking about -- against the Koran itself. I`m not speaking against Islam, the book. But I`m speaking and the few of us are speaking against terrorism.

BECK: Right.

DARWISH: And against tyrannical Islam, who suppress the voices of not just here in America, they are suppressing voices in Europe, in the Middle East. There are many people who are speaking out in the Middle East, and they`re right now in Arab jails, in Muslim jails, and we have to bring these voices out, because these are the voices of the new Middle East.

BECK: All right.

DARWISH: We want progress and want democracy.

BECK: So how did this come down that you were silenced at Brown University? How did that thing come about?

DARWISH: Well, I was invited to speak at Brown on the 30th. And I was -- I was disinvited just a couple of days ago because what I heard was that the Muslim preacher there and the Muslims student organization claim that I was too controversial and that I shouldn`t speak on their campus. And I never speak against the book itself, Islam. I speak against terrorism.

BECK: OK. Why is it -- because you were also sponsored by a women`s organization. And for the life of me, I can`t figure out why every woman in the world is not standing up against Islam the way it is practiced by extremists where they just shut women down. What was the excuse from the women?

DARWISH: I don`t know. They just gave up in front of the angry Muslim student organization, who can`t tolerate criticism. I`m not criticizing -- I love my culture. And I want to make sure this message is out.

But I am against the discrimination of Muslim women. Sharia law is totally discriminating against us. There are so many women who are suffering in the Middle East, and in the court systems of Sharia law we practically have no rights. Our speaking and the women -- the department was sponsoring me, but apparently, nobody defended my right to speak, and they just disinvited me.

BECK: OK. Nonie, thank you very much. We`ll talk to you again soon.

DARWISH: Thank you.

BECK: Coming up, Congressman Charles Rangel is looking for a few good men. Why not reinstate the draft?

Then, Tom Cruise, Katie Holmes, they make it official. They`re crazy Scientologists, and they`re hitched.

And what about those dancing penguins in the animated feature "Happy Feet"? Do they have an agenda besides just being delightful? You bet they do. The inconvenient truth about "Happy Feet" coming up.

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BECK: If you don`t vote against George Bush, they`ll draft you and you`ll die. That whole thing at the time, I kept beating the drum saying, "That`s because of Charlie Rangel."

They kept coming out and saying, "Do you know that it`s already in Congress? There`s a bill already in Congress." Why? Because of Charlie Rangel, a Democrat.

You know what? Everybody is going to spend their time talking about this nonsense. Everybody`s going to spend their time going back to politics. Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. You know what? Nothing has changed in politics. You want to go ahead and elect -- elect whoever you want. Nothing has changed.

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BECK: Well, there you go. If you were wondering exactly what the Democrats have up their sleeve when they take power in January, you might be surprised. Yesterday Representative Charles Rangel said he plans to resurrect that bill to reinstate the draft.

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BOB SCHIEFFER, CBS NEWS: You will, you will introduce that bill again?

REP. CHARLIE RANGEL (D), NEW YORK: You can depend on that. I don`t see how anyone can support the war and not support the draft. I think to do so is hypocritical.

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BECK: You know what? I`m going to -- I`d like to answer that, Charlie Rangel. We will here in a minute.

Ironically, or moronically, Rangel floated the same idea two years ago, only to end up voting against his own bill. Why? Because it was an election year.

The truth is, this is nothing more than a scare tactic, a ruse designed to freak people out and apply pressure for a withdrawal from Iraq.

Last time, it was to get you to vote against George W. Bush. Do you remember MTV`s "Vote or Die" campaign? Please. Why else would Rangel suggest such a thing?

It`s not like the stalled progress in Iraq has anything to do with the quality or the quantity of those currently in uniform. Any blame for what`s going on in Iraq squarely belongs on the shoulders of the suits in Washington, those who have desks in the White House and the Capitol building.

Plus, it`s absurd to suggest that those forced to join the military would be any more effective than the brave volunteers who have already so selflessly chosen to serve.

Once they`re officially handed the keys to the country, I pray the Democrats have bigger and better ideas than this kind of nonsense for all of our sakes, especially for those of us who have family serving currently in the Middle East.

Joining me now is Lieutenant Colonel Robert Maginnis. He is a syndicated columnist and Pentagon consultant.

Can you ever imagine, Bob, us needing the draft again?

LT. COL. ROBERT MAGINNIS, SYNDICATED COLUMNIST: Not any time soon, Glenn. Clearly, if we were in a national crisis to have to fill the ranks with hundreds and thousands of more people than we currently have, we have plenty of volunteers.

Seven percent, seven out of the people eligible last year reenlisted. So far, this year, over 100 percent of those eligible. So the numbers are pretty good. You wonder why people want to go to war but, in fact, they do by large numbers.

BECK: You know, it is so insulting to me on a couple of fronts. First of all, this is the same kind of nonsense that John Kerry said, isn`t it? Where John Kerry said, "Well, you`re going to end up being stupid and being in Iraq." Here`s Charles Rangel saying you`re only going if you`re poor and stupid.

MAGINNIS: Yes. The reality, Glenn, is that a wealthier, on the average person, is in the military today. They`re better disciplined, better physically and morally. In other words, they aren`t involved in crime or taking drugs. They come from an educated family.

Ninety percent have a high school diploma, and they average about 70 percent of their peers have high school diplomas. Michael, we have a pretty good group of people in the armed forces and want to keep it that way.

BECK: You know, back in World War II when we had the draft, it`s my understanding that the draft was originally instated because so many people were signing up that they wanted to make sure that some of the best and the brightest stayed here. There was a problem in our Ivy League schools, where they were all signing up to go. And they said, "Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. Slow down. Our country needs to survive and have some of the best and brightest here."

What has changed, if anything?

MAGINNIS: Well, I don`t know if anything really has changed. Certainly, some people don`t volunteer to go in the armed forces but, you know, we`re a highly discriminatory organization. There are 34 pages of medical reasons why you can`t even go in the military today.

But you know, kids in spite of all the bad P.R. that is going on, and there are some pretty bad places in the world, like Iraq, that you mentioned, but these young people are filled with patriotism. They want to serve their country. They want to go to different places. And they do see the military as a steppingstone to better their life. And that`s not all that bad.

BECK: I have to tell you. I`m -- I am so offended by people who tear our military apart.

You know, just like everybody else, I was afraid after 9/11. I didn`t know what our country held. These guys give me hope. They are remarkable. And for Charlie Rangel, if I may address this, and I`d love to hear your thoughts on this, for Charlie Rangel to say it`s hypocritical to support the war and not support the war. Bull fricking crap, Charlie Rangel.

Here`s why. For you to say that is an outrage, because I have family members serving in the Middle East, and I don`t want somebody who doesn`t want to be there watching the back of my nephew. That`s why I`m not a hypocrite.

MAGINNIS: Yes. One of the issues we have in Vietnam was malcontents because they were draftees. They didn`t want to be there. The kids today want to be where they are for the most port. They`re gung ho. They`re doing their job. They understand the risk.

You know, 90 percent of the draftees stayed -- didn`t stay past two years. Two years since they had and, as a result, we had an incredible cost to retrain people every couple of years and today, we`re retaining the people, making them into noncommissioned officers in the military. It`s much better.

BECK: Last question. I am afraid that our troops are tired. Do we have enough? Should we -- should we be focusing on trying to recruit more? Can we do better as a country to get more people involved?

MAGINNIS: Well, Glenn, we have 520,000 in the Army. At least, that`s what we`re authorized to sustain; 141,000 in Iraq. As General Schoomaker, chief of staff, says, it really does strain the Army, especially given that we`re in 125 nations around the world.

So do we need more troops? Perhaps if we`re going to sustain the current level of activity. Or, you know, God forgive us, if we continue to increase the number of engagements. Then we`re going to need more people, and you can`t grow them overnight.

BECK: Yes. Robert, thank you very much.

MAGINNIS: Thank you, Glenn.

BECK: Appreciate your time.

Now, let`s look at the other side. Let`s look at the evil conservative way to make money. I mean, there`s bound to be a few spoil sports who will do anything they can to avoid the draft, God forbid if Charlie Rangel gets his way.

You know what?

Now, let`s look at the other side. Let`s look at the evil conservative way to make money. I mean, there`s bound to be a few spoil sports to do anything they can to avoid the draft, God forbid, if Charlie Rangel gets his way. You know what I call these people? I call them customers for my next book.

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BECK: Well, if you felt a little extra love in the air this weekend, you can thank newlyweds Tom Cruise and Katie Holmes. Yes, Tomkat. Yes, I hate when people call them.

They tied an Italian-style other worldly kind of knot with the Scientology ceremony in Rome. On the list to attend the wedding, John Travolta, Jim Carrey, Jennifer Lopez and Brooke Shields? Off the list, Oprah Winfrey and me.

For me, let`s check in with Caroline Schaefer. She is the deputy editor for "Us Weekly".

Caroline, Brooke Shields. What was -- what`s up with that?

CAROLINE SCHAEFER, DEPUTY EDITOR, "US WEEKLY": Well, you`ve got to remember, Brooke Shields and Tom Cruise go way back. They were in "Endless Love" together in the 1980s, and he trashed her last year for using anti- depressants to treat post-partum depression.

But he actually apologized in August, and since then, Katie Holmes and Brooke Shields have been very close friends. You know, Suri and Brooke`s daughter, Greer, have the same birthday, and they actually play together.

BECK: Really?

SCHAEFER: Yes.

BECK: OK. Here`s my wife`s theory.

SCHAEFER: OK.

BECK: All that`s bull crap. My wife`s theory was that she was invited because, if Brooke can forgive Tom, then America surely could.

SCHAEFER: Well, that`s one theory. I mean, definitely this whole wedding was great for his image and especially in terms of women`s eyes. I mean, you know, really winning back, you know, the women fan, female fan.

BECK: Right, right. Now, Oprah didn`t make the list.

SCHAEFER: No.

BECK: You jump on my couch with your shoes on and you don`t invite me to the wedding?

SCHAEFER: Well, Oprah, after the fact went on the record, saying, "You know what? I wasn`t buying it." So basically, like, if she wasn`t buying the fact that Tom was proclaiming his love for Katie, you know, why should she be invited to the celebration of their wedding?

BECK: I`ve got to tell you, maybe that`s why I didn`t get the invite. Because I don`t buy it either. I think it`s a sham, quite honestly.

SCHAEFER: Some people do.

BECK: Do you know anything about the wedding itself?

SCHAEFER: Yes.

BECK: You do?

SCHAEFER: Yes.

BECK: Was it weird? Did they -- I saw somebody in the paper that wore like an alien hat.

SCHAEFER: No, no.

BECK: No, I did see that. I swear. I`m not -- no, no, no. You want to make religion, you can make fun of mine all you want. I`m not making fun of the religion. I just -- I really did see one of the guests wore, like, a spaceship hat.

SCHAEFER: Really?

BECK: I thought it was in bad taste, myself.

SCHAEFER: Well, it was a scientology ceremony. It was about 20 minutes. The guests who were there said you know what? You wouldn`t even have been able to tell the difference. You know, there was a minister. They said their "I dos." It was about 20 minutes long, and then it was over, and they were very happy.

BECK: OK. So there`s nothing -- there`s nothing different?

SCHAEFER: Well, I mean, I think there are certain things that are different. You know, in a scientology wedding, there are five different kinds, and probably the least conservative is called the double ring ceremony.

That`s probably what Tom and Katie had, where you know, basically the minister holds up two rings and says, you know, "This is about, you know, affinity, reality, communication and ARC." And you know, basically says, "One thing you guys should do is never go to bed angry with one another." Which is not such a crazy idea. That`s what a lot of marriage therapists say.

BECK: That`s sweet. If that`s the ceremony, you`re like, whatever.

SCHAEFER: Hey, 20 minutes, that`s a pretty speedy wedding these days.

BECK: Yes. No, no, no. That`s -- that`s, you know -- I understand the town is a little upset at them.

SCHAEFER: Yes. It`s a very small town. On one hand, they were excited because it brought all these tourists to them, but then, of course, they didn`t come out and you know, pose for pictures. And so I think the mayor was upset. She wasn`t invited to the wedding, and also, the townspeople were upset that Tom and Katie didn`t come and pose right afterwards.

BECK: OK. Thank you very much. You weren`t invited? You didn`t go, Caroline?

SCHAEFER: No. I was actually working here. It`s Rome. It`s kind of far to go.

BECK: Oh, yes. That`s me, too. It was the air fare that stopped me.

SCHAEFER: Yes. I wasn`t invited on the charter plane.

BECK: Thanks a lot, Caroline.

SCHAEFER: Thank you.

BECK: You bet.

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BECK: All right. Welcome to "The Real Story." This is where we try to cut through the media spin to figure out why a story is actually important to you.

It was 15 years ago a New York jury awarded $4.5 million to a woman that claimed her silicone breast implants -- which she had in for 22 days - - leaked and resulted in her getting breast cancer over a year later. By early 1992, attorneys were rounding up more women for class-action lawsuits, and the FDA, under severe pressure, decided to ban their use.

1993, despite providing 329 studies done over the last 30 years to the FDA showing that breast cancer rates were the same in women with implants and without, three manufacturers agreed to a $4.7 billion settlement. Last Friday, FDA lifted the ban, saying, quote, "What is different today is the amount of clinical and non-clinical data about these devices."

The real story is that the whole 45-year history of silicone breast implants is a great example of what I like to call financial science; that is basically when money decides the right answer instead of actual science.

Attorneys and their clients smelled blood in the water in 1992 and no one, not the FDA, not the insurance companies, and certainly not the manufacturer and their 329 studies, were going to get in the way of science proving that these implants caused cancer. I think we`d all be better off if we could just admit that so much of our science is not only influenced by money but it is also based on the best data available at that time.

Scientists aren`t perfect. Our understanding of almost everything is constantly evolving, so we can`t fall into the trap of thinking that everything that the scientific community believes is fact. What`s this bring me to? Of course, global warming, another perfect example of this.

Thirty years ago, scientists believed we were entering a period of global cooling. Do you remember that? But now, oh, you`re an idiot if you even question that the current warming may be a natural trend. But, again, I go back to financial science.

Just like breast implants, there`s a lot of money at work in the debate about climate change. That doesn`t always make the science right or wrong, but it does mean that we should honestly question whether we`re being told absolute fact or, more importantly, what the motivations are of the people who benefit the most financially by us not questioning it.

Next, the animated kids` movie "Happy Feet" opened this weekend taking in over $42 million. Now, if you haven`t seen it, you might think it`s about a bunch of cute, little penguins that are dancing around and singing. But, of course, you`d be wrong!

The real story is, oh, there`s a much more serious message imbedded in the film, a message you don`t see in any of the marketing. If you watched our special last week about radical Islam, you might remember the segment we did on propaganda and children. In it, I showed you that extremists have created cartoons aimed right for the young kids to promote their ideas. Take a short clip from one of the cartoons we found in our special last week.

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UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Allah Akbar!

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BECK: OK, all right. In "Happy Feet," the message thankfully isn`t that, that suicide bombing is honorable. It`s that man, fishermen, big fish, killing the environment, and the poor dancing penguins right along with it.

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UNIDENTIFIED MALE: One at a time.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: We`re with him.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Yes, we`re together.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: He`s got a beautiful question.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Come on.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Just don`t look him in the eye.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Have you ever been abducted by aliens?

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Excuse me? What kind of question is that? Next.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: No, wait.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I met a (INAUDIBLE) once with something like that on his foot, said he was abducted by aliens.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: This, friend, is my sacred talisman.

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BECK: All right. The director of the film publicly has said that he changed the original screenplay to amplify the environmental themes and that, quote, "You can`t tell a story about Antarctica and the penguins without giving that dimension."

Call me crazy, but, yes, you can. And if you`re going to include those themes, the least you could do is tell me, a parent. Tell me about it first, OK, so I know I`m walking into propaganda.

But with "Happy Feet," no, they couldn`t shoehorn that into the marketing. That`d be too tough. I wonder if it`s because they knew that people, you know, wouldn`t go see it or not as many. They may not pull in $42 million if people thought they`d be watching an animated version of "An Inconvenient Truth."

Maybe I`m in the minority -- and I probably am -- but you know what? I`d like to teach my children how to think for themselves about the issues, including global warming and the environment, instead of having them indoctrinated by some Hollywood director.

Bob Thompson I think disagrees with me for a lot. He`s a director for the Center for Study of Popular Television at Syracuse University.

How are you, sir?

ROBERT THOMPSON, CENTER FOR STUDY OF POPULAR TELEVISION: I`m doing well. And I didn`t realize what a huge danger we were in on this penguin movie.

BECK: I know. You don`t -- talk down to me some more, will you?

THOMPSON: Well, I get a sense that this is like an April Fool`s -- I mean, are you really worried about this penguin movie?

BECK: No, I`m not. No, I`m really not worried about this penguin movie. Here`s what I`m worried about, and I`m not even worried. I`m sick of it. I am sick of every time I sit down to a movie with my kids, I have to go, "Oh, jeez, what are you doing?"

And it`s all the way from language to adult themes to messages. Where are the "Curious Georges"? Where are the ones where they`re rated G where I don`t have to worry about anything, I don`t have to look and go, "Why am I getting this?" I just want a stupid movie.

THOMPSON: Well, "Curious George" is back on, so if you want "Curious George"...

BECK: I got it. And you know what? I appreciate Howard for making "Curious George" a safe movie for your kids.

THOMPSON: Here`s the point about this penguin movie. There`s essentially two themes here. One is that we should tolerate others. It`s a remake of "Rudolph the Red-Nosed Reindeer" on the other side of the -- on the bottom of the Earth, as opposed to the top of the Earth. Nobody, I think, argues against that. We`ve been telling that since the "Ugly Duckling" and all the rest of it.

The second is, as the opening of the film shows, which starts out in the beginning of the planet, is that everyone -- you know, whatever we do affects everything on the planet, right down to the little penguins. Now, this is a little heavy-handed, I`ll grant you that. My problem with this movie isn`t that it`s got this theme.

BECK: Well, wait a minute. Hang on just a second.

THOMPSON: It`s that it doesn`t it all that well.

BECK: Wait a minute. Hang on just a second. You think that`s a little heavy-handed, with the U.N. swooping in so our kids can see the glorious U.N. saving the day? Come on. A little heavy-handed?

THOMPSON: Well, you know, but, you know, this is how stories -- I mean, American stories are about underdog. I`ve got bad news for some of the movies of the great generation. "It`s a Wonderful Life" is about the evils of a real estate developer who`s trying to come in, modernize a town. "Bambi" you could read as an anti-NRA theme. A hunter kills Mommy at the beginning of that movie. I`m still traumatized by that.

BECK: Oh, I know. Oh, I know.

THOMPSON: "Mary Poppins," about bankers being these evil, soulless characters, until you learn to take your tuppence and, instead of investing them, but giving them to a poor bird lady and going and flying a kite. I mean, it`s like this is...

BECK: You know what? Then how would you...

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BECK: You know what? How would people in Hollywood feel if I take "Robin Hood" and I change it just a little bit and make sure that everybody understands that the real message in "Robin Hood" is that the government was taxing the little people too much and it ends where everybody`s happy when he institutes a flat tax? Stop with the politics.

THOMPSON: It`s sort of been done. "Robin Hood: Men in Tights" made fun of the whole...

BECK: Made fun of it, what a surprise.

THOMPSON: ... made fun of the whole "Robin Hood" theme.

BECK: Right.

THOMPSON: So, you know, it`s this idea that -- I would be more worried, if there`s a vast Hollywood conspiracy, is that all these kids` movies -- forget that they`re teaching them to play nice and to -- and, you know, something.

BECK: There`s nothing wrong...

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THOMPSON: ... caring about the environment is not a political issue necessarily.

BECK: Oh, come on. Global warming and the U.N. swooping in? Have you been up in the cold of Syracuse too long?

THOMPSON: That`s how they`ve chosen to tell this story, which may not be how I would tell it.

BECK: My point exactly.

THOMPSON: I don`t have a problem with hunters, but I don`t mind that Bambi decided to have a hunter shoot the mom. Of the 50,000 things affecting America`s youth in negative ways today, I don`t think the penguin movie is probably on that 50,000.

BECK: Bob, let me tell you.

THOMPSON: I don`t think this story is going to get you a Peabody.

BECK: Right, let me tell you something, Bob. It never is about that one story. It is about the 50,000. And I`m glad we spent two minutes on it. Thanks, Bob.

That`s "The Real Story" tonight. If you`d like to read more about this or you found -- am I alone in this? Maybe I am. Maybe I`m the only parent out there that says, "Could you please just stop with the messages?"

If you have a real story of your own and you`d like to tell us about it, please visit glennbeck.com and click on the "Real Story" button.

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BECK: "Ice Age 2" coming out on DVD this weekend. I liked "Ice Ace." I didn`t need the global warming message, more environmentalists` material coming out. And, conservatives, you suck at this. What do you got? What do conservatives have, "Veggie Tales," singing vegetables? Kids hate vegetables!

Have you ever really thought of "Robin Hood"? The real story behind Robin Hood is that government caused the collapse of the economy by taxing people too much. That`s what happened. The end of the movie should be King Richard finally getting the point, getting back into office, and implementing a flat tax! That`s how "Robin Hood" should end!

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BECK: All right, not only is "Passion of the Christ" one of the very few R-rated movies that I`ve seen in the last few years, also one of the highest-grossing movies of all time. Big reason it was so successful was the incredible performance by Jim Caviezel as Jesus. Now, he`s starring opposite Oscar-winner Denzel Washington in the new movie, "Deja Vu," which opens this weekend. Here`s a peek.

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JIM CAVIEZEL, ACTOR: I told you earlier I have a destiny, a purpose (INAUDIBLE) same reasons that (INAUDIBLE) thinks of eternity is that, all eternity, I am here, and I will be remembered. That`s destiny.

A bomb has a destiny. A predetermined fate set with the hand of the creator, and anyone who tries to alter that destiny will be destroyed. Anyone who tries to stop it from happening will cause it to happen, and that`s what you don`t understand. We`re not here to coexist. I`m here to win. So you`d better have some divine intervention, buddy. You`re going to need it.

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BECK: Jim Caviezel, welcome. I think we are probably the two most famous people to ever come from Mt. Vernon, Washington.

CAVIEZEL: I mean, isn`t it amazing? Because Denzel Washington is from Mt. Vernon, New York.

BECK: Is he really?

CAVIEZEL: Yes, I freaked him out when I said, "I`m from Mt. Vernon, too."

BECK: Oh, that`s weird. Yes, no, my folks ran the city bakery downtown, you know, before the mall was built and destroyed our little town and everything else.

CAVIEZEL: Star name. "Glenn Beck," I mean, that`s a star name. That`s like even quicker than Gregory Peck, you know?

BECK: I know. I know.

CAVIEZEL: That`s great.

BECK: So tell me about the new movie. You play a really, really bad guy, which is really odd for you.

CAVIEZEL: Right. Well, I mean, when I originally got the script, I thought I was playing Denzel Washington`s role. I didn`t know that...

BECK: Right, right.

CAVIEZEL: ... and they were interested in something else. I went in for -- I met with Tony Scott. And he says, "What do you think about this guy?" And I said, "I`d be interested in playing it, but more of a guy who thinks of himself as good." And so that`s how it all game to be. And...

BECK: You play -- I`ve noticed -- in fact, I just like two weekends ago, I saw a movie -- I don`t know when you made it, "Madison"?

CAVIEZEL: Yes.

BECK: Because I grew up in the Pacific Northwest, I remember the hydroplane races from that era.

CAVIEZEL: That`s right.

BECK: And I watch it, and I was just so fascinated by it.

CAVIEZEL: Yes.

BECK: You play like this and Bobby Jones, as well...

CAVIEZEL: Sure.

BECK: ... good guys or people that are struggling to be good guys.

CAVIEZEL: Right, right.

BECK: Do you do that intentionally? Is that the kind of thing you`re looking for, or does it just happen to be that?

CAVIEZEL: I look for redeemable material. You know, and even though I`m playing the bad guy in "Deja Vu," the story itself is so powerful, the element of good versus evil, and good winning out...

BECK: Right.

CAVIEZEL: ... and, you know, and the same goes for, you know, "Passion" or "Frequency" or any of the other stuff that I`ve done.

BECK: Oh, that`s right, you were in -- oh, that`s a great movie.

CAVIEZEL: "Thin Red Line" I worked on.

BECK: Yes, yes. I talked to Jerry Bruckheimer, and he`s going to be on the show...

CAVIEZEL: Great.

BECK: ... in a couple of days, and he said...

CAVIEZEL: Smart man.

BECK: Oh, yes, very smart. Very quiet. But he said to me that the lines that you had -- and I believe it was from that scene...

CAVIEZEL: Yes.

BECK: Are taken right out of the FBI...

CAVIEZEL: Yes.

BECK: ... databanks, to where we are talking to Muslim extremists.

CAVIEZEL: Yes. Well, I mean, them and bombers and...

BECK: Yes.

CAVIEZEL: ... and all these guys, I mean, they`re criminals. And eventually their arrogance gets the best of them. You know, it comes out.

BECK: Did it give you any chills to know what we`re facing now and to be playing this?

CAVIEZEL: Yes, I guess there`s some allegorical things in this, but no sense of avoiding the truth. I mean, you saw what "Planet of the Apes" did for Charlton Heston and what that story -- how that related in the `60s.

BECK: Yes. So now this movie is out this weekend, and you have a God motive in this movie. Any tie or just coincidence?

CAVIEZEL: Absolute coincidence. I think it`s more related to deja vu. You know, you think you know what`s coming, and you don`t have a clue. There`s obviously the element of what the government`s using and the technology, and how technology can be great but also can be used for bad, as well.

BECK: "Top Gun."

CAVIEZEL: Oh, yes.

BECK: Influenced your life? You tried to become a jet...

CAVIEZEL: Who told you this?

BECK: Come on, I`m from Mt. Vernon.

CAVIEZEL: Come on.

BECK: You tried to be a fighter pilot.

CAVIEZEL: Yes.

BECK: Three times you applied, did you not?

CAVIEZEL: I applied to the United States Naval Academy three times.

BECK: What happened?

CAVIEZEL: Well, every year, it got a little bit harder to get into, and I just said -- well, I just missed it by this much. Try it again. I met with my senator. Didn`t get in the following year. Tried with my congressman the following year, and didn`t get in. And I had a chance to go to West Point, but I wanted to fly jets. But what I really wanted to do was be an actor.

BECK: Yes, well, it was great. Big fan. Thank you very much, and we`ll see you again.

CAVIEZEL: Thank you very much.

BECK: "Deja Vu" opens Wednesday, I believe. Back in a minute.

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BECK: Jim Caviezel is a handsome man, isn`t he? I`m just saying.

Welcome to e-mail, where Aaron writes in about Michael Richards` career suicide-by-video. He says, "Hey, Beck. Say it ain`t so. Heard you talking on the radio about Michael Richards and his racist rant. I love `Seinfeld.` Kramer was my favorite character. I just won`t believe it until I see it."

All right. Couple of warnings here. First, a lot of language that`s, well -- I was going to say some -- really everybody should find offensive. And if you don`t find it offensive, take the pointy white hood off. You can see the TV better that way.

Secondly, Aaron, realize that you can still stop now without watching this and not have your favorite character ruined for all time. Fair warning. Here`s the video.

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MICHAEL RICHARDS, ACTOR: Throw his ass out. He`s a nigger. He`s a nigger! He`s a nigger! A nigger! Look, there`s a nigger! Woo, woo! All right, you see? This shocks you. It shocks you to see what`s buried beneath you stupid mother (bleep).

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BECK: I don`t get it. It amazes me that people will still go to something like that. I mean, I don`t think there`s a place in this world for a word like that. I don`t care if you`re black or white. It doesn`t matter.

I guess there`s one place that you would have to give performers a long leash as far as language, and that would be a comedy club, but this to me seemed like off-the-cuff anger and the whole thing to watch is really brutal. He did perform the next night and made some off-camera comments where he claimed to have made amends for the comments, whatever the heck that means.

Tonya in Michigan writes in about our Islamic extremist special that we re-aired yesterday. She writes, "Mr. Beck, I want to thank you for a program that aired regarding the two faces of Iranian president and brainwashing of the children. What an incredible program. Please re-air this show seven nights a week for two weeks straight. I`m afraid the rest of America is clueless, much like I was, and it`s your job to inform."

I want to make sure everybody sees it, too, although I think every night for a couple of weeks might be a bit excessive, although it would free me to perform a phased redeployment from having to work for a couple of weeks. So I might be with you, but it is my understanding that the network is going to re-air this special this coming Friday. Don`t miss it, if you haven`t seen it.

You can e-mail me ideas of, you know, how to get out of work, among other things, at GlennBeck@CNN.com. We will see you back here tomorrow on the TV show and also tomorrow on the radio program. Don`t miss it, you sick, twisted freak.

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