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Glenn Beck
Immigration Reform: The Bill That Won`t Die; Employers Play Fast and Loose with Immigration Laws; Police Officer Killed after Pepper Spraying Suspect; Girl, 2, Youngest Inductee into Mensa
Aired June 26, 2007 - 19:00 ET
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GLENN BECK, HOST (voice-over): Tonight the immigration bill revived.
TONY SNOW, WHITE HOUSE PRESS SECRETARY: We`re certainly happy that the motion of proceeding is passed.
BECK: I`ll tell you what`s next for the bill that just will not die.
Plus, a traffic stop turns deadly. Reigniting the debate over gun control.
And Paris liberated yet again. She`s finally out of the slammer, but does this look like rehabilitation?
All this and more tonight.
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BECK: Hello, America.
Today Congress voted on whether or not to continue on that immigration reform bill, and here`s how it played out.
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REP. PETER HOEKSTRA (R), MICHIGAN: The conference voted this morning to proceed with debate on the Hoekstra resolution and not table it. If we would have tabled it, we would not have had any additional debate, and we would not have had the vote on the content of the resolution.
The conference clearly wants to have a discussion and a fair debate within the conference. They did want to have the vote.
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BECK: These guys are amazing. In the words of today`s disaffected youth, whatever. This bill is like the terminator, man. It just won`t die.
Here`s the point tonight. It doesn`t matter which way this vote went down today, because Congress will find a way to get its provisions through by any means necessary, usually by inserting them into other bills that don`t have anything to do with immigration.
Sadly, that approach has become politics as usual. Remember the funding for the spinach growers that they -- they tried to shoehorn into the Iraq emergency funding bill?
Let me give you another example. How about one that has a little flavor of south of the border?
The Bush administration proceeded with a pilot program that would give Mexican trucking companies full access to all U.S. roads. Now, as it stands now, Mexican trucks can enter only at certain points along the U.S. border and can only hold goods about 70 miles into the United States.
Certain members of Congress and the Department of Transportation have a little problem with the all access plan of the White House. So what did the White House do? Did they seek a compromise or amend their plan? Of course not.
Instead they just got enough of their program included into the Iraq war supplemental spending bill that was signed into law just last month while all of us were paying attention to spinach.
Don`t let anybody tell you that this is just a past due piece of NAFTA. Nothing to worry about. Do you know who the first people were to buy trucking companies along the southern border once NAFTA went through to take advantage of this loophole? Drug cartels. Look it up.
Nice work, George.
So tonight here`s what you need to know. Politics is a sneaky little business played by sneaky little men who all -- all of the angles are all played and they`re all covered by these guys. Congress is a lot like "The Sopranos", except with worse dialogue.
Like the saying goes, if you like sausage and the law, you probably don`t want to watch either one of them being made.
Representative Ted Poe is a Republican from Texas. Congressman, I just can`t believe -- I can`t believe that the weasels in Congress suddenly find a spine on something everybody in the country is against.
REP. TED POE (R), TEXAS: It`s amazing. You are correct. You know, the will of the American people is against this amnesty bill, but, yet, it keeps resurrecting its ugly head. It`s called everything else but amnesty.
Most Americans are against it. Congress needs to get the point.
DOBBS: Yes. Well, they`re not...
POE: Leave it alone.
DOBBS: Congressman, you know it and I know it. They`re not going to get the point. It`s exactly like this trucking thing. This trucking thing is back for safety. It`s bad for our environment.
Are you kidding me? You`re going to have Mexican truckers, who may not even -- may not even be able to read road signs. God knows what they`ve put in the back of these trucks. Drug cartels own these trucking companies, and we`re just shoehorning this in, in the middle of the night?
POE: No question about it. The administration wants to move forward with it. The House has passed legislation. It hadn`t gone to the Senate yet. Stopping this until the Transportation Department answers some questions. That`s being ignored by the Transportation Department.
We`re concerned about safety. We`re concerned about the environment. And as you said, we`re concerned about drivers coming from Mexico that can`t even read a sign. And of course, this deal is not reciprocal.
In other words, American trucks won`t be allowed to go into Mexico. It`s a one-way deal for Mexico.
DOBBS: We`re getting -- I`m telling you, Congressman. We`re getting the shaft. I talked to -- on the radio program today, I talked to a woman who lives down in Texas. She said, "My land is about to be taken for this NAFTA super highway." I think there`s a two-year reprieve on this.
She said, "I could lose my land on this NAFTA super highway, and I can`t get anybody to even go on record about that."
What are they calling it now? They`re not calling it the NAFTA super highway. They`re calling it the corridor, the Texas Corridor Highway?
POE: The Texas corridor. That`s what it`s being called now.
DOBBS: Yes.
POE: But that`s what it is. It`s a big land grab by the federal government to have a highway all the way through the United States from Mexico to Canada, and then when you talk to the Transportation Department, they deny this thing ever exists.
DOBBS: You can find the plans on the internet. I mean, it`s amazing. How stupid do they think we are? It doesn`t -- this doesn`t make sense to anyone in the country. Everybody is starting to ask questions.
Wait a minute. We can`t get these guys to pass common sense legislation. They don`t have a spine. They`re weasels and everything. And yet, all of a sudden they will not relent on this legislation when both Republicans, conservatives, liberals, and Democrats are all saying we don`t want this legislation. We know something is up.
POE: No question about it. This is bipartisan opposed to this super NAFTA highway. It`s going to be run by foreign governments. It`s going to be a toll road. Everything about it is bad for the American public.
Congress is really opposed to it, but, once again, it`s going to happen.
BECK: Congressman, thank you very much.
Buckle up, America. Here it comes.
If you think Congress is slippery at making the law, let`s shift gears here. Let`s look at the lawyers and the consultants who are even worse when it comes to skirting the laws that are already in place that nobody is enforcing.
Recently, a video appeared on YouTube -- oh, how did we survive without YouTube -- that shows a seminar being led by Cohen and Grigsby. This is a Pittsburgh law firm that offers counseling to businesses on how to avoid the messy practice of hiring American workers and rigging the system so they can hire cheaper immigrant labor. Watch this.
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UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Our goal here, of course, is to meet the requirements, No. 1, but, also, do so as inexpensively as possible, keeping in mind our goal.
And our goal is clearly not to find a qualified and interested U.S. worker. Our objective is to get this person a green card and to get through the labor certification process.
So certainly we are not going try to find the place where the applicants are going to be most numerous. We`re going to try to find a place where, again, we`re complying with the law and hoping, and likely, not to find qualified and interested worker applicants.
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BECK: Where is the outrage, America? This is unbelievable. This is not a conspiracy. They`re out in the open.
Joining me now is Jack Shea, president of Allegheny County Labor Council.
Jack, first of all, these guys are not breaking the law. They`re absolutely within their right of everything that they said, right?
JACK SHEA, ALLEGHENY COUNTY LABOR COUNCIL, AFL-CIO: Well, they`re breaking the moral law. Let`s face it.
BECK: The spirit of the law.
SHEA: They`re disqualifying. That`s what they`re doing. Skilled workers to be able to find employment.
Now, let`s face it, the middle class has eroded. You know it, and I know it, and we have to -- all are struggling to try to maintain the middle class.
Now all of a sudden this thing shows up on YouTube, and guess what? This is their seventh annual immigration seminar.
And I just happen to wonder how many people, not only in Pittsburgh and other parts of this country, who were qualified to get good paying, skilled jobs were disqualified on account of all these maneuvers and all these -- and this is something the Department of Labor ought to look into.
Before any immigration bill or anything is passed, we got to find out.
DOBBS: I -- Jack, where are the -- where are the congressmen that used to stand up, I`m fighting so we`re not outsourcing? Let me tell you something, outsourcing jobs is a dream come true at this point.
At least the people in India are not also taking our services, Social Security and Medicare and Medicaid and our hospitals.
SHEA: Well, it seems to me that it`s got a little too expensive, maybe, for some of these corporations to ship our jobs overseas, so now what they want to do bring is cheap labor to America and get the work done as cheaply as possible.
Let`s not kid each other, OK? It`s this simple. If we all stand up and be against this stuff and don`t get the stuff investigated, it`s going to continue, and we`re not going to know about it.
I am just glad that whoever invented that small camera that nobody knows where it`s at can be anywhere, and they better watch themselves.
BECK: I`ve got to tell you, it`s my understanding that this company put this up themselves on the web site. This is not a hidden camera scenario. They filmed this thing. They`re not ashamed of this. This company, as far as I understand...
SHEA: Well, they took it off. Glenn -- Glenn, they took it off. They took it off, I understand.
BECK: Of course, they did.
SHEA: Because of the outrage. It`s not right. It`s not fair to the worker. And let`s face it, when we start losing three million manufacturing jobs in this country, now what we want to do is -- we want our folks -- we want our folks to just start over again. And we get them to get skilled work, and look what happens.
BECK: Well, I`ll tell you. One job many Americans seem like they don`t have a problem doing at all, and that`s screwing America over.
Jack, thanks a lot.
SHEA: OK, Glenn.
BECK: Coming up, now somebody else caught on tape. A police chase turns deadly as an officer is shot and killed after pepper spraying a suspect. But what didn`t make the tape is what will shock you. I`ll explain.
Plus, is cable news ready for Rosie? She`s on the job hunt. Rumored she could end up at MSNBC, if the price is right. Don`t miss tonight`s "Real Story".
And Paris is free at last. I`ll have the latest details from her time behind bars and the talk about the money she`s going to make from this whole quote, unquote, "ordeal." Coming up.
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BECK: Coming up, Rosie O`Donnell is in the news. She is still unemployed, and believe it or not, I can`t think of a better place for the country`s biggest liberal to work than at MSNBC. And I am not kidding. If the current rumors are true, she could end up joining me in the cable news world.
Oh, America, run for your lives.
Join me, Rosie. Join me.
More on that in just a bit. But, first, it was just this past may in a New Hampshire town, a little one, where a police officer, Bruce McKay, pulled over a suspect.
I don`t know if you`ve seen this, but after forcing the car off the road, the officer pepper sprayed the driver and began walking away. He turned his back, when the suspect opened fire with a .45 caliber handgun killing the officer.
Seconds later, as the suspect ran McKay over with his car, a former Marine who was passing by picked up McKay`s gun and shot the suspect dead.
In the wake of this shooting, one side decided that the gun was the villain. The other side decided it was the hero. The same philosophical debate that is also taking place now in Nevada where a member of the Las Vegas Police Department has proposed that faculty and staff at Nevada`s colleges should be permitted to become reserve police officers and carry weapons on the campus. Not all of them. Just some of them.
He says that if professors are armed, another Virginia Tech may never happen again. Many others, obviously, disagree. Which is it? Do guns promote violence or murder? Do they prevent it?
Stavros Anthony is the police captain who proposed this idea and he`s also a member of the Nevada Board of Regents and Paul Helmke is the president of the Brady Campaign to Prevent Gun Violence.
Stavros, let me start with you. What made you think that this is the solution?
CAPTAIN STAVROS ANTHONY, LAS VEGAS POLICE DEPARTMENT: Well, there`s actually a lot of things we need to look at. We need to hire more police officers on our campuses and get surveillance cameras and reverse 911s.
But I have been paying attention to these mass shootings, and especially, the one at Virginia Tech. And the common denominator is that there`s only one person with the gun, and that`s the bad guy. And they basically have free reign until the police show up.
And the police do a great job, but there`s going to be a time lag. And I`d like to have somebody there that`s trained in the reserve officer capacity that can shoot back and kill the bad guy.
BECK: You`re not saying, hey, let`s just give a gun to the art teacher. You`re saying they have to go through a course, they`re trained to use it, qualified to use it, et cetera, et cetera?
ANTHONY: It`s a very rigorous program. They have to go through a selection process that includes background checks, psychological exams. They`re going to have to go through a 21-week academy that any police officer would have to go through.
And then once they complete it, they`re going to have to continue on with training, so this is -- very few people are going to be even able to pass something like this, but we have a couple of people on campus with a gun that can shoot back, and then we`ve done our job.
BECK: So Paul, I mean, I think what I`m hearing him say is Glenn is never getting a gun, so what`s the problem with this plan?
PAUL HELMKE, BRADY CAMPAIGN TO PREVENT GUN VIOLENCE: Actually, it sounds a lot better than a lot of the ideas the folks have thrown out that everyone should be carrying a gun on campus, because that clearly doesn`t make sense, and Anthony has that kind of a background.
My concern is that when I`ve been on campuses and you`ve got a professor up there with 400 people, when you`re arguing in a class with the teaching assistant, when you`re coming in late to the dorm and the janitor is there, and these are the people that are carrying the guns, I want to make sure anyone who`s got a gun is trained.
In my mind as a former mayor, if you want more of a police presence on campus, hire the police. When we had reserve officers, they focused just on being the reserve officer. They didn`t multi-task.
I don`t think that teaching and janitor service and secretarial service is something that goes well with carrying a gun and protecting young people, as well as themselves.
BECK: Are you -- are you somebody who`s against a carrying concealed permit?
HELMKE: The problem with concealed carry is, again, that the Virginia Tech shooter would have been eligible for the concealed carry.
BECK: Right. Not the question. Not the question. Are you against people carrying handguns, regular citizens?
HELMKE: Not if they know what they`re doing. Not if they`ve been trained to do it.
I think the important thing to point out, though, is adding more guns into a home, into a community, into a college, into a state or a country, means we`re going to end up with more violence, because people lose those guns, people misuse those guns, and that`s the problem.
DOBBS: Stavros -- you`re easy to -- it is easy for you to say that, but I can also talk to you about the violence that happened in Nazi Germany and Russia, as well, when they took all the guns away. It`s just violence of a different kind.
Stavros, how would you -- how would you defend that, you know, a few guns wouldn`t necessarily be a bad idea on a campus? I got to tell you both, I disagree with both of you.
I think the more the merrier because, you know, the guy would not have killed as many people as he did if somebody in that classroom would have had a gun and taken him out.
ANTHONY: Right. I think what people fail to understand is that there are tens of thousands of people in the United States that are reserve police officers that have full-time jobs, and they want to volunteer their time to protect their community. And they`re attached to police departments.
That`s all this is. It`s just an extension of the reserve officer program to our campus police departments.
And I always have reservations about just handing somebody a gun. But this is a very rigorous selection process, and I believe we can have a cadre of individuals on the universities or colleges that are trained to carry weapons that can shoot back. Because it`s unarmed citizens that are getting killed, and we need to put a stop to it.
HELMKE: If this is really just an extension of adding to our police departments, adding to our reserve forces, then, clearly, there`s not a problem. The thing is they need adequate training. We need to know who they are. The other jurisdictions, when they come into the building, need to know which ones are the good guys and which ones are the bad guys. If the janitor`s shooting at people.
What I worry about, with Glenn`s situation, is the frat parties I went to, the keggers, the booze, the things that I have seen, I`m not sure that`s where I want to see a gun.
BECK: That`s where somebody would be irresponsible with a gun. And I`m not saying everybody gets a gun. I`m saying you test them. I`m saying that you train them. I`m saying you do background checks to make sure they`re responsible enough to have a gun. But I, as a citizen, have a right to do it.
Paul, Stavros...
ANTHONY: It`s tough to have those police make mistakes all the time too, so we have to be careful with it.
BECK: Yes. Well, mistakes happen.
Coming up, rumors that Rosie is about to board the little carnival ride that I like to call cable news. Believe it or not, speculation suggests she`s headed to MSNBC. And, you know what? Not a bad idea. And I`ll explain why in tonight`s "Real Story".
Plus, the story everybody`s talking about today: chronic congressional gridlock. What? Oh, no? Really? That`s just me then? Paris Hilton, for those of you without a pulse, now a free woman, but does free also equal rehabilitated? That`s the question we`ll try to answer in just a bit.
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BECK: All right. You don`t have to be a genius to host a TV show, and I`m living proof of that, but you do have to be a genius to become a member of Mensa.
The high I.Q. society just welcomed their newest member -- I don`t know if you saw this story over the weekend -- a 2-year-old little girl from England with an I.Q. of 152.
She can count to ten, draw on almost perfect circle and tell the difference between pink and purple. I can do all of those things. At 2, she`s already overqualified to work in my position.
Joining me now if Frank Lawless. He is a psychologist in charge of testing for Mensa.
How are you doing, Frank?
FRANK LAWLESS, PSYCHOLOGIST: How are you doing? I`m doing fine.
BECK: Well, yes. What is your I.Q., Frank?
LAWLESS: Well, it varies, depending on what test I take. It will range from, you know, really high to, you know, real high.
BECK: That`s weird. Mine too.
So she has 152 I.Q. The parents said she -- they think she could have scored higher, but she had to take a nap, in the middle of the test. How off the charts is this girl?
LAWLESS: Well, first of all, the Stanford-Binet that she was tested by, it`s a little bit -- it has a higher ceiling effect, so that particular score would probably be lower if they took a statistical kind of I.Q. test. So we`re really talking about 140.
This is really high. I don`t want to detract from that, but it is really very high, and, you know, noteworthy in terms of being higher than probably 99 percent of the population.
BECK: The people -- people -- I heard people talking about this. Like, she drew a circle. How tough is drawing a circle?
LAWLESS: Yes. Well, again, let me explain what I.Q. is. It`s basically your mental age compared to your chronological age. So she`s 2 years old, and it takes a 3-year-old or a 4-year-old to draw a perfect circle.
So, if you compared just that test, then she`s 4 over 2, which would make her have an I.Q. of 200. So it`s very relative to, you know, the age itself.
BECK: Well, he was giving that answer, I just drew a cube right there. That`s much more complex than a circle.
She`s compared to Stephen Hawking, which I love, because Stephen Hawking, he did nothing with his intelligence until he got -- until he fell down the stairs when he was at Cambridge as a student and realized, "Uh-oh, I`ve got something bad going on." And then he was given a very short period of time to live and decided to apply himself.
Just because she`s a genius doesn`t mean that she`s going to amount to anything. I`m trying to make myself feel better about me and my kids and my whole family for generations, quite honestly.
LAWLESS: Well, she scored high on an I.Q. test for 2-year-olds. That doesn`t mean that she scored high for a test for adults.
BECK: Oh, so she could stop at any time?
LAWLESS: She could stop at any time.
BECK: This may be as good as it gets for her?
LAWLESS: Well, it might be, but what happens is that 50 percent has to do with her gray matter. Fifty percent has to do with what happens along the way.
We can destroy a lot of brain cells just by taking too much alcohol, staying up too late, not getting enough sleep and being angry or stressed. All those things will detract or subtract from your I.Q.
BECK: That`s why mine is only 160, quite honestly. Or -- I know it`s got a 60 in it.
You -- the -- somebody who tested like this or would have tested like this is Einstein, right? They thought he was -- they thought he was a dummy when he was a kid.
LAWLESS: Well, exactly. And that`s what I was going to say about the term genius. Genius really can`t be calculated. There`s not a test for genius. There`s a test for high intelligence.
BECK: Yes. Frank, let me tell you something, you`re watching this show, you`re a genius. Takes one to know one, too.
Back in a second with "The Real Story". Don`t miss it.
Frank, thanks a lot.
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BECK: Yeah, yeah, Paris is sprung, and the whole world yawns. Well, it`s actually that`s the way it should be, but nobody is yawning, and we`re going to devote a couple of minutes to the show tonight telling you about the skinny jeans she sported on her way out of the cooler. It`s going to be awesome.
Actually, you don`t want to miss our coverage of Paris coming up. But, first, welcome to "The Real Story." Fox News entertainment columnist Roger Freeman believes that Rosie O`Donnell might just be headed for a package of shows with NBC and MSNBC. "The Real Story"? Good.
MSNBC, it`s a perfect fit for Rosie O`Donnell. They already have Keith Olbermann who continues to impersonate a journalist while reciting left wing blog entries for an hour. Why not follow that up with Rosie O`Donnell spewing an hour of conspiracy theories in World Trade Center Number 7.
It would great. Honestly. MSNBC. I mean this, it would move you to the right which might be a good place for you to occupy.
As counterintuitive as this may sound, I really do believe that Rosie on MSNBC would be a good thing. It would be a good thing for the network. It would be a good thing for America. The solution to those who, you know, say, oh, that`s an insane opinion, we shouldn`t listen to that opinion, the solution here is never less speech. It`s more speech.
And I absolutely welcome her to the marketplace of ideas because I know those ideas are crazy, and they won`t sell. Better yet, in rejecting those ideas, the rest of America might finally start to understand what they believe and why they believe it. Bob Thompson is director for the Center of Media Studies in Syracuse University. Hello, Bob. How are you?
BOB THOMPSON, SYRACUSE UNIVERSITY: Hey, pretty good. How about you?
BECK: I`m great. I actually think this is a good move for Rosie O`Donnell. I think it`s where she belongs instead of couching her views in some sort of an entertainment show. She just says them straight out, and I think it actually would be a ratings success.
THOMPSON: I do too. I think not only is it perfect match. I think it`s really the only place left for her to go, which is one of these prime time 24-hour cable channels where she can really do what it is she has decided to do. She doesn`t want to go back to another daytime talk show. She`s been there. She`s done that.
"The View" obviously didn`t work out because there were four people, and that`s three people too many for Rosie O`Donnell on one set. "Price is Right" would have been the silliest thing in the world. How in the world can someone like Rosie O`Donnell fill avuncular Bob Barker`s Mr. Nice Guy shoes?
The really only place that she can go are one of these shows because she`s got all of the criteria. She`s got ideas that she really holds strongly, strong opinions. She`s got a big mouth. She likes to interrupt, which can make for some good show business. She occasionally will say things that are outrageous that will get things talked about, and most importantly, she`s well-connected. She could bring a lot of guests on to a show like that and with Olbermann and with Rosie, NBC, which has always been struggling in the three 24-hour cable network race, might really get something going with that schedule.
BECK: You know, it`s amazing to me, Bob, that your analysis on, you know, she could get good guests, et cetera, et cetera, how people like Bill O`Reilly, people like me, we`re always demonized in the media.
I`m demonized by the left all the time as being a hatemonger, and, yet, Rosie O`Donnell could say far more outrageous things, but in a different direction, and she won`t be demonized by the left or Hollywood or anybody. She`ll be embraced.
THOMPSON: Well, I`m not sure. I think -- I think the embracing of Rosie had begun to wear a little thin even among people who had normally been her supporters. By that last couple of weeks on "The View" Rosie was beginning to inspire eye-rolling by people who had normally really liked her.
You know, to some extent, that may not be a bad thing for the kind of show that she would do.
BECK: Sure.
THOMPSON: It would be very different, obviously, than a straight kind of reportage sort of thing. The whole point would be what MSNBC wants is shows that people are going to watch even if there`s not breaking news, and a lot of people are watching O`Reilly who hate him. I would say half his audience.
BECK: I have to tell you, it would be the same thing with Rosie as well. A lot of people would watch her because they hate her so much.
THOMPSON: Exactly.
BECK: Thanks a lot, Bob.
Next, Michael Bloomberg, the Democrat turned Republican turned independent, New York City mayor, who is telling anybody that will listen to him that he is absolutely, positively not running for president. President? Of the United States? Why? Why would I possibly be interested in that? I mean, I`m already mayor.
But all of the questions about whether he is going to run or not have distracted people from asking a far more important question -- does anybody really care? I get that everybody loves the candidate who isn`t in the field yet. Fred Thompson comes to mind, but what do people outside of New York even know about this guy?
"Real Story." Apparently not very much. Forty percent of Americans have no opinion of him whatsoever. Another 23 percent view him unfavorably. But you`ve got to believe that that number would be a lot higher if all the rednecks and village idiots who live in Hicksville, otherwise known as the Heartland to those who, you know, don`t live in New York City, had any clue as to what this guy was really all about, so since we broadcast from Manhattan, it`s an island in New York, let me give you fly over state simpletons a quick primer.
Like most cities, New York has a lot of poor people, and those people are poor because they have a shortage of money. Meanwhile, there are other people here, including our billionaire mayor, who have a surplus of money, lots of money.
So I think you se where we`re going here. If we take the excess money from those people and give it to the poor people, then there won`t be any poor anymore. It`s just that easy.
But the real genius is in how we decide to dole out the funds. Now, since Bloomberg was a conservative, you know, for like four minutes, he wants to make sure you earn it. No free handouts from him. Uh-uh.
You attend a parent teacher conference at school, and you get $25. You take six seconds to check your kids -- how they did on a test, you get another $25. If you can convince, keyword, convince your kid to go to school, 95 percent of the time, you get another 25 claims, baby, and so on and so forth.
You can quote earn, end quote, up to about $6,000 a year under this plan, which is, by the way, privately funded for now. Likely expand to a public program if it is successful, and by successful I of course, mean we`ve made really bad parents pretend to temporarily care about their children for cash.
I think the famous proverb applies beautifully here. Give a man a fish, and you have fed him for a day. Teach that man to fake that he cares about fishing, and you have fed him tomorrow as well.
Richmond Mayor Douglas Wilder is the former governor of Virginia. Mayor, I know you, sir. I like you. You are a plain-spoken, right- thinking American. For the love of heaven, please tell me you think this is bribery of our parents to do the right thing.
MAYOR DOUGLAS WILDER, RICHMOND: If there are those people who believe that this can get something done, if it gets it done, fine. The real question is where do you put the real responsibility? I heard something earlier in the show as a promo that was pretty much suggesting that this is our community, and unless the community rises up in righteous indignation at the lack of education, at the lack of health, at the lack of people getting jobs.
My city is a poverty-stricken city in terms of the numbers of people at that level, but I put a lot of the blame on my educational system. It`s dysfunctional. We need math and science. We need to reward good teachers. We need to make certain that we reward those who can produce and we need to say it to those youngsters that unless you do, you`re not going to make it. You`re going to end up in jail.
BECK: You are giving -- and I agree with what you are saying. Now, if you`ll meet me halfway, sir, and give me the second. You have to allow people to fail. What -- programs never work because they always just keep propping people up, and as you prop people up, they become lazier and lazier and, they expect everybody else is going to do the work. You`ve got to let people fail so they feel the ramifications of bad choices.
WILDER: They have to have the example set. I can tell you, Glenn, I see so many youngsters who early on have bright eyes and eager and want to learn, and then they get mixed up with another crowd. They get mixed up with the people in the community who tell them, why are you still in school? Why are you trying to excel?
Then when you say allow people to fail, that means also to allow them to excel, get passed their peerage, move past those people that would pull them down and be examples. I say to our youngsters, you can be examples for others, and then that means for those who choose to fail, it`s not the fault of the community, it`s not the fault of government because we should have done the things we needed to have done by putting the proper funding in schools.
BECK: Mayor, it comes down to the families. It comes down .
WILDER: Oh, yes, I agree with you.
BECK: .. to the families. It comes down to let that kid see a parent in the house. Let`s be crazy, two parents in the house saying, "Stay the course."
WILDER: And to let that kid see parents who tell them they will tolerate no foolishness, that you must stay in school.
BECK: Yes, thank you.
WILDER: That you must do your homework.
BECK: Right.
WILDER: And in the absence of that, you are going to fail.
BECK: You know, I hate the language just here on this particular program where you have to convince your child to go to school. If you can do it.
Mayor, thank you very much. Always a pleasure.
WILDER: Always good, Glenn. Look forward to seeing you.
BECK: You bet. That`s the "Real Story" tonight. Stick around. We`ll always have Paris. Next.
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BECK: Paris -- stop the music, please. Because this is important. Paris Hilton is finally out. Free at last. Free at last, thank God Almighty, she`s free at last. Oh. Doesn`t that make you feel good? She`s finally free. She`s able to sleep at home. Possibly alone. Maybe not. You don`t know. But she has that choice.
I want to start way quick update on the continuing crisis with Iran. According to A British newspaper "The Sun" forces from Iran`s Revolutionary Guard have cross the Iraqi border to plant IEDs resulting in the death of several British soldiers.
As one U.K. intelligence source put it, quote, "it means we are in full-on war with Iran, but nobody has officially declared it." More on that as it develops.
But enough of the nonsense and let`s move on to something that is actually important to all of our lives, the kind of story that really made you want to buy a television in the first place. America, our long national nightmare is over. After an arduous with us 23 days spent in an eight by 12 foot cell, Paris Hilton finally released from bondage. Oh, thank God Almighty she is free at last.
We have now Kim Serafin, she is a senior editor for "In Touch Weekly."
Kim, prison changes people. How much are you banking on the new and improved Ms. Hilton?
KIM SERAFIN, "IN TOUCH WEEKLY": I`m ready to give her the benefit of the doubt. She seems to already be doing things differently. I mean, she walked out last night. She wasn`t really made up. She looked happy.
BECK: Oh.
SERAFIN: It wasn`t how you usually se her walking the red carpet in L.A. And she was exposed to .
BECK: It was a catwalk. Do we have the tape? Play the tape back. It was a catwalk. She looked like a model walking out of there.
SERAFIN: Is that her fault? I mean, she technically was -- the media was there. They were set up. I mean, this is the way to do it. She could have walked out with, you know, her holding the "L.A. Times" article that said that she was more time than 80 percent of the people who had committed the kind of crimes that she had committed, so, you know, she did it in the right way. She walked out, she looked happy. She looked happy to be with her mom, and I`m ready to se a changed Paris.
BECK: All right.
SERAFIN: You know, she can still look good and do charity work, glen. You know, she can still be fashionable and start a transitional home for these women.
BECK: You don`t want to hear about MS or breast cancer for Paris Hilton. That`s like seeing Jerry Lewis in "Hamlet." That`s not what we paid for.
SERAFIN: I don`t know if you saw that "New York Times" article about Lindsay Lohan when she was wearing the sweat shirt that when she was passed out in the car. That was an American Apparel sweat shirt that wound up selling hundreds of thousands of these sweat shirts, so people pay attention to celebrities, whether you agree with them or not. They do watch what celebrities do. And if Paris starts doing charity work, you never know. People might listen up.
BECK: Just what we need, America. Someone else from Hollywood to lecture us. I heard somebody say, well, I think that America has turned and we`re not going to pay as much attention. And I thought, why? Did someone give her an acid bath in prison. As long as she is good look and she`s not pigging out on Ho-Ho`s, America will not turn from her.
SERAFIN: Oh, yeah. And they`re more fascinated than ever.
I mean, look at that media circus last night. I had - I live in L.A. I live in Hollywood. I have been to the Golden Globes. I have never seen anything like that with the paparazzi trying to take shots of her as they stopped at intersections as she was on her way home.
I mean, this is -- you know, it`s a feeding frenzy, and she`s only gotten to be a bigger star. You know, I was telling somebody, when you Google, if you go to Google News and you Google Paris, she`s more famous than Paris the city. Like, she comes up more than Paris the city comes up.
BECK: Well, to quote the great Britney Spears in her song "Lucky," "but she cry, cry, cries at the lonely parts.
SERAFIN: I didn`t know you were so versed in Britney Spears songs, Glenn. I`m very impressed.
BECK: Well, I am. Let me ask you this. Before she starts lecturing us about MS or breast cancer, do you think maybe she could hire a driver?
SERAFIN: Yeah. I have a feeling that`s probably going to be one of the number one things that she does.
BECK: Good for her.
SERAFIN: She is on probation until March 2009, although she does do a PSA or does community service, she`ll get 12 months cut off that. So, again, I think, you know, we`re all waiting to see what she says tomorrow on LARRY KING.
BECK: I know I am.
SERAFIN: To see sort of the new and improved Paris. Is she going to start a transitional home for these women who are coming out of jail?
BECK: Wouldn`t that be great? And if they could just have matching handbags for the stripes and the orange jumpsuits. Kim, thanks a lot. We go from zeros to heroes. Time to take you to Kliptown in Soweto, South Africa. Where one man is helping to make the historical difference of freedom, equality and economic prosperity a reality for Kliptown`s children. He is today`s CNN Hero.
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BOB NAMENG, SOWETO KLIPTOWN YOUTH FOUNDATION: When I look at children, I see them like flowers. Flowers have got the right to blossom. These kids don`t deserve the conditions that they find themselves in in Kliptown. No proper infrastructure, no good sanitation, no schools, no facilities around.
We come from very difficult times, apartheid times. Three thousand people came together in 1955 in Kliptown which led now to the adoption of the Freedom Charter which was the Constitution of South Africa. For me it`s a contradiction because there are all those things that are written there. I don`t see any of them happening in our community.
Young people are bored, hanging around, doing nothing. Nobody is talking to these kids. Nobody is telling them how special they are. Nobody is saying to them let your little light shine.
My name is Bob Naming, and I`m the founder of Soweto Kliptown Youth Foundation.
There`s a feeding program where we give our kids meals, three meals a day. There`s educational programs where kids are being given access to computer, library, where kids are learning.
This will improve our vocabulary. That`s good.
What we`re doing is community work to help and make a difference in our own community.
I am a ghetto child. I know life in the ghetto. Children live what they see, so if we lead a positive life, then we`re setting a good example to our children.
If people can know that they own this community, lots of things can start moving in a positive way. I believe one day things are going to be OK because after that darkness, there is light.
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BECK: Curtis Alger back in jail after murdering a corrections officer whose gun he wrestled away during an offsite doctor`s appointment. He then stole an SUV, led police on a high speed chase and eventually went inside an Arby`s where he was finally stopped by the heroic efforts of a 59-year- old former army paratrooper.
Before this he was best known for the tattoos that were all over his face. He, of course, is not the first prisoner with face tattoos. There is, of course, Charlie Manson. From the Smoking Gun, there`s this guy who had a self-esteem problem. This woman who apparently really loved her father.
And this frightening guy who has the words "Aryan Honor" above his eyebrows but it`s Curtis Alger who has to have the psycho tattoo record. Above the eyebrows it says "skin" and "head" and he`s got lots of swastikas. I counted nine. I guess he assumed that just one wouldn`t get the point across. He even has a tattoo portrait of Adolf Hitler on his chest, which is always very classy.
Seems lately that it is getting harder and harder to get an accurate description from the police on criminals because of political correctness, but I really -- I was thinking about this today, and I think you could save a lot of time by avoiding we`re looking for a white male about six feet, 200 pounds, freckle on his right hand, engaging deep blue eyes.
Just skip right to the part -- We`re looking for a guy with swastikas on his face. And as I see it, luckily, if you find the wrong swastika face guy, call police because they`re probably looking for him too.
If you look closely at the picture, you`ll notice that on his chin he has the word "fun" tattooed. Usually it`s kind of cheesy to brag about yourself and say, look, I`m a fun guy, but, you know, if you are covered in Hitler head tattoos, it might be necessary to point that out. You know, for the ladies.
Reports now say that he may have gotten into a gunfight with police. I mean, did you really expect him to do anything else? And by the way, even if he escaped, do you think he is just going to melt back into society? If this guy shows up at my son`s little league game, you know, as a coach, I`m calling police wanted poster or not.
Of course, now he is not the only person with tattoos that you may have seen before. A lot of people don`t know -- OK. I mean, did we have to show the whole body tattooed? That`s attractive, isn`t it? Yeah. A lot of makeup to cover all those things.
That`s it from New York. Good night, and don`t forget, if you want to know what`s on tomorrow`s program or if you want to catch up on the show, sign up for my free daily newsletter at glennbeck.com. We`ll see you then, you sick freaks. From New York, good night.
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