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Hillary Getting Raw Deal for RFK Comment?; The Politics of Energy Plans; Public Viewer Compares His Book to Glenn`s

Aired May 27, 2008 - 19:00   ET


GLENN BECK, HOST (voice-over): Tonight, I can`t believe I`m going to do it, but I`m going to defend Hillary Clinton. I`ll tell you how the media used her RFK assassination remark to assassinate her campaign.

Plus, the tale of two morons. A congresswoman who wants to nationalize oil companies...

REP. MAXINE WATERS (D), CALIFORNIA: This liberal will be all about socializing.

BECK: And a former president who can`t keep his fat mouth shut. You won`t believe what Jimmy Carter has said now about Israel.

And years after "Growing Pains," Kirk Cameron is back, "Still Growing."

KIRK CAMERON, ACTOR: You can`t hit me, you`re a liberal humanist.

BECK: The star of "Left Behind" will be joining me to talk about faith and Hollywood.

All this and more, tonight.


BECK: Well, hello, America.

I -- I want you to know right off the bat, and this is not going to come as a surprise to you if you watch this show every night, I think Hillary Clinton would stink as president of the United States. But the sad truth is, no one really wants to talk about why she would stink, you know. The politics today are just ruled by lies and distortions. Facts don`t seem to matter, to the media, to candidates. The only rule now in America is, I guess, there are no rules.

So, that puts me in a position to where this weekend I`m watching the news, and I`m thinking this is crazy talk. I have to go on the air and defend Hillary Clinton?

As much as I don`t like her policies, you know what? I`m at least going to try to be fair and consistent in criticism of everybody, every politician.

You know, I`ve been keeping a list of the PC candidate Barack Obama, all the things that he says, you know, "You can`t say that about me." So tonight, I guess the point is, historical fact is now off limits and out of bounds, and here`s how I got there.

This weekend, I don`t know if you saw this -- you watch the news kind of like I did, you know, Hillary Clinton saying something crazy about RFK, bringing up his assassination. And I thought, she can`t be that stupid. Well, I did my homework, and I actually looked at the tape. Here`s exactly what she said.


SEN. HILLARY CLINTON (D-NY), PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: Between my opponent and his camp and some in the media, there has been this urgency to end this, and you know, historically, that makes no sense, so I find it a bit of a mystery.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: You don`t buy the party unity argument, that...

CLINTON: I don`t. Because again, I`ve been around long enough. You know, my husband did not wrap up the nomination in 1992 until he won the California primary somewhere in the middle of June.


CLINTON: Right? We all remember, Bobby Kennedy was assassinated in June in California. You know, I just, I don`t understand it.


BECK: You know, here`s what I don`t understand. The keyword in that is June, not assassination. But the mainstream media and Obama`s campaign, which have become one and the same, saw an opportunity and jumped on it. How dare Hillary have the audacity to invoke the assassination of RFK? She was talking about June.

Since making the statement, Clinton spent most of her waking hours now defending it, and then, I guess, apologizing for it. What? When do we talk about high gas prices in this country? The candidates` big plans for fixing things in this country?

Believe it or not, I think it`s reasonable to take Hillary Clinton at her word, and I can`t believe I`m saying those words! I believe she was referring to two primary campaigns that went on until June. That`s it, nothing more. Nothing to see here. Let`s move on.

So, I guess there`s now one more thing that Chairman Obama says we`re not allowed to do anymore. Apparently, you cannot mention his middle name; you can`t talk about his political positions if you disagree; you can`t talk about any of his past associations; and now, it seems, we can`t talk about our nation`s history. It`s off limits, as well.

The list of things you just can`t say around this guy is getting longer and longer and longer, in fact, longer than the list you can say. That`s un-American. In fact -- dare I say it -- it`s the method of fascist rulers.

But that`s not really surprising coming from a bunch of far left-wing socialists, isn`t it? And I`m talking mainly about the media. The mainstream media is no better. Leave it to them to not let the facts get in the way of a good story. Remember, it doesn`t matter if it`s true or not. It only matters what they can get you to believe is true.

The mainstream media has clearly picked sides in this election, and they ain`t exactly rooting for Hillary Clinton. John McCain, buckle up, because you`re next.

So tonight, America, here is what you need to know. Barack Obama is the most amazing politician I`ve ever seen. He loves to talk about a new kind of political discourse, about putting the politics of divisiveness behind us. Too bad it`s all just talk.

While Obama hides on this higher ground, his campaign minions support and encourage the kind of innuendo and misinformation that comes at Hillary Clinton`s expense.

This hatchet job began at MSNBC -- far left-leaning organization now - - and then the Obama campaign took it and circulated it to the rest of the media, and they just lapped it up. They win, you lose.

Ben Stein is the creator of the documentary "Expelled: No Intelligence Allowed" and the co-author of "Yes, You Can, Supercharge Your"...

What are you doing now?

BEN STEIN, AUTHOR/FILMMAKER: Well, I`m having a potato chip. I`m not a communist. I don`t go with a potato chip.

BECK: Why are you always eating on this program? Ben, let me...

STEIN: I`m not going to eat any more because you`re punishing me.

Ben, let me -- let me play -- this comes from MSNBC and Keith Olbermann. This is where this all began. Here it is. Watch this.


KEITH OLBERMANN, HOST, MSNBC`S "THE COUNTDOWN WITH KEITH OLBERMANN": We cannot forgive you this, Senator, not because it is crass and low and unfeeling and brutal. This is unforgivable because this nation`s deepest shame, its most enduring horror, its most terrifying legacy is political assassination: Lincoln, Garfield, McKinley, Kennedy, Malcolm X, Martin Luther King, Robert Kennedy. And but for the grace of the universe and the luck of the draw, Reagan, Ford, Truman, Nixon, Andrew Jackson, both Roosevelts, even George Wallace.

The politics of this nation is steeped enough in blood, Senator Clinton. You cannot and must not invoke that imagery anywhere, at any time, and do not to appreciate immediately, still not appreciate tonight just what you have done today is to reveal an incomprehension about the America you seek to lead.


STEIN: Well, I mean, what -- Glenn, what could you higher praise than being bashed by Mr. Olbermann? And one of the absolutely dumbest people in the media. What could be higher praise than that?

BECK: Really, truly -- she said nothing like what he`s accusing.

STEIN: She said nothing -- she said nothing bad. And during -- earlier in the campaign when she said it took both the dynamism of Martin Luther King and the presidential power of Lyndon Baines Johnson to get the Civil Rights Act passed. That was totally true, too.

She has been framed up. She has been mistreated. If there was any justice in the world, she would get the nomination. She`s got more votes. She`s got more big states. She should be the nominee. Mr. Obama and his friends in the mainstream media have mistreated her shockingly.

BECK: Yes. Here`s -- and they`re cannibals on her. They`re eating their own.

STEIN: Cannibals, cannibals.

BECK: Give me -- give me the tape. Watch this, Ben. Tell me, tell me where the problem is. This is Barack Obama yesterday. I`ve seen this nowhere in the media. Watch this.


SEN. BARACK OBAMA (D-IL), PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: I have a uncle who was one of the -- who was part of the first American troops to go into Auschwitz and liberate the concentration camps.


STEIN: Well, there`s a problem there. Auschwitz was liberated by the Russians, so unless he was in the red army.

BECK: And that could be.

STEIN: There could be a problem there.

BECK: That could be.

STEIN: But I mean, yes, Auschwitz was in Poland, Aubuchon (ph) in Poland, liberated by the red army. I don`t think the American army ever got anywhere near, close to it.

BECK: OK. So Ben...

STEIN: So I don`t know what he`s talking good, but that`s very typical of Harvard Law School. Had he gone to Yale Law School, he would have known better.

BECK: Right. OK, so here`s the thing, you tell me where the -- I think that was an elitist joke that I don`t...

STEIN: Oh, very much. A joke about how...

BECK: If you went to technical college like I did, you`d know.


BECK: Here`s the -- here`s the thing: where`s the media on this?

STEIN: The media is a part of the Obama campaign.

BECK: But are they out on the tarmac ducking from the sniper fire? How long did that go on? Here`s a guy who may have made an innocent mistake. Maybe he went into some other concentration -- I don`t know. We`ve called the Obama campaign. Don`t have an answer yet. We`ll bring it to you as soon as we get it. But where`s the media?

STEIN: The media is backing Obama. The media, as you said, is a separate wing of the Obama campaign. It is shameful; it is disgraceful. And if I were Mr. Clinton or Mrs. Clinton, I would be hysterically angry about this. After they coddled the media, after they treated the media like their brothers and sisters, the media were turns on them in the most vicious way imaginable.

BECK: I talked to a professor at George Mason University today, and he said that the media is just looking for a guy with a fresh perspective, an anti-politician. No he doesn`t -- he`s...

STEIN: He`s not the anti-politician...

BECK: Wrong hall.

STEIN: He`s the ultimate Chicago, ward healer (ph) politician.

BECK: Here`s the thing. Stick around, because I say it`s because the media loves Marxism. And don`t go away, because I want to show you some tape, more tape that you probably haven`t seen on television, mainstream media that should have been run over and over and over again.

And then Jimmy Carter, one of the worst presidents alive. Wait until you see what this peanut brain said. That`s coming up.

Also, tired of paying over $4 a gallon for gas? You know what? I called GM last week, and I said, "Tell me about the hydrogen car. I hear you have one coming off the line in 2013." They do. I drove it. I`m going to show it to you and talk little bit about the new technology coming online to a roadway near you, coming up.

And a quick reminder, still time to get tickets for my upcoming summer tour, "Beck `08: Unelectable." Believe it or not, it`s a comedy tour, just like the real election. Starts June 7. We`re making stops in Atlanta; Oklahoma City; Harrisburg; Portland, Maine; Syracuse; Springfield, Massachusetts; Akron, Houston; Columbia, South Carolina.

You can purchase your tickets right now. We go on the road a week from Friday. You can get them at


BECK: Well, if you watch this show on a regular basis, you know that I just hate people who whine, "Oh, my gosh, things are so bad!" Without giving any kind of solution, you know?

So tonight, we`re going to take a look at American innovation as a way to solve our problems when it comes to what you are paying at the gas pump. Future of cars. I called up GM last week and said, "Tell me about your hydrogen fuel cell SUV." They brought it out to New York so I could drive one. You don`t want to miss it. We`ll play it here in about 20 minutes.

Now let`s go back to Ben Stein. He`s the creator of the documentary "Expelled: No Intelligence Allowed," co-author of "Yes, You Can: Supercharge Your Portfolio."

Ben, I want to switch gears here to oil. Remember last week, they brought all the oil executives in, and they`re like, "Oh, you`re so evil." They`re like, yes, right.

I want to play a bit of tape. This is from Congresswoman Maxine Waters -- did you see it?

STEIN: Yes, I saw it.

BECK: Listen to what she says.


WATERS: And guess what this would be all about? This liberal will be all about socializing -- would be about, basically, taking over, and the government running all of your companies.


BECK: First of all, socializing -- no, I mean...

STEIN: Terrifying. It`s terrifying.

BECK: It is terrifying.

STEIN: It`s terrifying in every way. It`s terrifying that she doesn`t even know what she`s saying or thinking, terrifying that she`s so ignorant about economics and history. It`s terrifying that she`s a very high official of the United States Congress. It`s terrifying she`s from my hometown of Los Angeles.

I`ve been crossing swords with this woman since we were fighting over school bussing. And I think anyone who lives in Los Angeles today can tell you how that turned out. So it`s a very scary situation.

BECK: I mean, the effects, Ben, of nationalizing our oil companies...

STEIN: It`s breath-taking. It`s breath-taking. It`s unbelievable. It`s like saying we would now like to officially turn this country into a desert. So there you are. There you go, bye, it`s done.

BECK: Here`s the amazing thing. I saw an article. It was on page A- 17, A-16 of the "Wall Street Journal" today. I`m not kidding, it was the size of four postage stamps. It was about that big.

The story was Russia has decided -- the former Soviet Union -- has decided to give a $4 billion tax break to its oil companies, because it needs them to develop new sources of energy and find new fields. So they`re giving them a tax break to get them to go do it. We`re talking here about becoming the Soviet Union.

STEIN: I know. We are talking about -- we are talking about taking giant steps back. Every other country in the world is going to alternatives, going to nuclear, going to every kind of way to stimulate oil production. And we are still fighting the oil companies tooth and nail as if they were our enemies. How are they our enemies? They power our lives and get this country to run.

BECK: You know, it`s amazing to me. They -- I saw a new statistic today that 75 percent -- the bottom 75 percent of this country -- take 75 percent of the population, 100 million people...

STEIN: No, no, honey bunch, wait, the bottom 75 percent is 225 million people...

BECK: Taxpayers.


BECK: Not everybody`s paying. Not everybody`s paying taxes.

STEIN: OK, right.

BECK: A hundred million people, bottom 100 million people, you combine all of their income tax, the oil companies pay more...

STEIN: Oh, I`m sure that`s right.

BECK: That is -- I mean, that`s a phenomenal number.

STEIN: And the oil companies are its stock holders who are retired policemen, retired firefighters, retired school teachers. The oil companies are not owned by the Rockefellers anymore. They`re owned by you and me. They`re owned by people in comparably less well off than you and me. They`re owned by people who need those dividends and need that earnings to support their retirement.

BECK: We`re the only -- we`re the only country that limits -- we`re the only country in the world to say, "We`re not going to go for our own natural resources." We`re the only ones. We are -- I`m telling you, we`re suicidal.

Let me go...

STEIN: It`s suicidal environmentalism. In the long run, it`s going to have to be alternative fuel, though, but for the next 30 or 40 years, we`ve got to drill everywhere we can.

BECK: OK. Let me...

STEIN: But not through Santa`s reindeer`s head.

BECK: I stand by that. Let me -- let me go to Jimmy Carter. You know, I think Jimmy Carter is the worst president ever, and we`ve had some bad ones.


BECK: He`s just -- he`s an idiot at times. The things that he has done and said. But you know what, I haven`t gone down the road that the guy`s an anti-Semite until...

STEIN: Oh, he`s been that all his life.

BECK: My gosh, what was he doing when he said -- he gave the number of how many nukes Israel has. Nobody in Israel has done that. No American president, past or present, has ever done that. He decides that -- to do that while the IAEA says that Iran`s not forthcoming with all of the information on their nuclear program? What is he doing?

STEIN: He is now in effect, if not in law, a lobbyist for the Arab League, and he has done everything he can to sabotage Israel. He`s always been mocking and condescending towards Jews.

He`s allowed to do that. This is a free country. People can be anti- Semites if they want, but let`s just call a spade a spade. The guy has been a major league lobbyist for the Arab League and is also a major league anti-Semite and has been for a long time.

BECK: Do you know if it`s true that he has taken money from the -- from the Saudis?

STEIN: I don`t if it was taken into his own checking account, but his library or institution was taking it in a huge way.

BECK: Yes, yes. All right. Ben, great to see you. Talk to you again.

STEIN: Thank you.

BECK: No more eating on the program.


BECK: All right. This weekend I saw "Narnia," and I have to tell you, based on the reviews, I shouldn`t have gone. I went and saw it. It`s good to see a movie, a really good movie with faith.

I want to talk to somebody who`s been in some faith movies. They say, oh, you can`t make it. The former star of "Growing Pains," Kirk Cameron, is going to join me in an honest discussion about faith, family, and fame. We`ll do that, coming up.


BECK: Well, the writer Gore Vidal once said, "Every time a friends succeeds, I die a little." I really disagree with that, for the most part.

For instance, a good friend of mine who has just published his first book, and I couldn`t be happier for him. It`s a wonderfully warm and funny book called "In the Event of My Untimely Demise: 20 Things My Son Needs to Know," by my friend and a guy who`s just caused me to die just a little bit, fellow author Brian Sack.

Yes, Brian.


BECK: Fellow author.

SACK: Isn`t that exciting?

BECK: Yes, maybe someday I can say fellow former "New York Times" No. 1 bestseller.

SACK: Hopefully, we can work on it. And I did a little research for this particular segment.

BECK: Yes, we did.

SACK: Now, we`re both published authors.

BECK: Yes.

SACK: My book, "In the Event of My Untimely Demise," it`s about, in case I die, here`s what you should know.

BECK: Right.

SACK: My book, "In the Event of My Untimely Demise," it`s about in case I die, here`s what you should know.

BECK: Right.

SACK: Your book, "An Inconvenient Book," is, "We`re all going to die. Let me tell you how."

BECK: Yes. Yes.

SACK: That`s how we`re different, in that respect.


SACK: Also, writing a book, I discovered, very hard. And I did it all wrong, apparently. Because I was looking at the title page of your book, and I realized I didn`t know you could bring people on board to help you.

BECK: Right.

SACK: So, I -- I did not have the resources so, unfortunately, I did it all wrong and it was just me. But it`s weird. It`s weird, because, you know, leaving me alone sitting there at the typewriter.

BECK: Yes. That`s quaint.

SACK: Like Andy Rooney.

BECK: Yes.

SACK: You know, my book is all words. It`s just words, words, words, words. And it`s weird, because I was going through your book, and reading it again, chapter to chapter, cover to cover, as I have, and you just have got so many pictures in there. A lot of pictures.

BECK: Yes. Look at that. See? You don`t have to put as many words. Or in my case, you don`t have to hire as many people to write those words.

SACK: Right.

BECK: You just put a bunch of pictures in there.

SACK: See?

BECK: And you`re done. It`s like, whatever.

SACK: Color scheme.

BECK: Yes.

SACK: OK. My book, very patriotic. I love America. The enemies hate our freedom. My book, very red, white and blue, if you look at the colors there on the cover.

Your book, gold and bluish if you see there. And that`s actually -- those are the colors of Ukraine, Bosnia and Kazakhstan. Those are the three states.

BECK: Really?

SACK: And speaking of Kazakhstan.

BECK: It`s weird, because I have the same color in the tie now, too. Oh, there it is.

SACK: Is that Kazakhstan? Speaking of -- I dug into some photo files, and look what I dug up there. Your book is technically an homage to Kazakhstan, because you love it so much.

BECK: That is a good looking picture.

SACK: Now, my book...

BECK: Yes.

SACK: ... has a great endorsement from you on the front cover. OK? But for some reason, your book, "An Inconvenient Book," doesn`t have an endorsement from me.

BECK: Nope. Nope.

SACK: But maybe when I`m a No. 1 "New York Times" best seller like you.

BECK: Nope.

SACK: Right now, I`m on Amazon, 300 -- No. 300 ranking.

BECK: Three hundred, wow.

SACK: No. 10 for entertainment humor category. No. 2 for parenting and family humor.

BECK: This is not a parenting book.

SACK: No, it isn`t. And also for parenting and family written by people who like wine too much and have the initials B.S., No. 1.

BECK: Really? Wow, that`s great. Brian Sack, best of luck to you.

SACK: Thank you very much.

BECK: Please, America, grab this book. It is very, very funny. Brian Sack.

You can grab a copy of it at You`ll find it in the Glenn Beck store section, way under my No. 1 "New York Times" best seller. What better way to say "Happy Father`s Day" than to grab a copy of both? I mean, really? We can upsell you, can`t we? A little incentive here for you. Brian`s comes with a complete letter-writing kit where it`s really actually very cool. You get it for free. Check it out right now at


BECK: Well, welcome to "The Real Story." Memorial Day, it`s the summer, officially. I was out grilling hamburgers and hot dogs with my family yesterday. The driving frenzy is on, which means the gas price frenzy is also officially here. Today gas prices hit a record high for the 20th straight day in a row. Wouldn`t you like to stop hearing that?

The national average today now stands at $3.94 a gallon. Have you had enough yet? We may not all be dusting off our bikes just yet, but we did drive, get this, 11 billion miles less this March than we did March a year ago. Somewhere, Al Gore is celebrating with a bottle of Fiji water that he had shipped on a big plane halfway across the world.

That is the steepest decrease in driving since World War II, and I doubt that they counted the amount of miles our jeeps logged through Europe back then. Gas consumption is also down from a year ago, public transportation ridership is at a 50-year high. At the current rate, we`ll all be taking chuck wagons to work by 2010. Global warming problem solved.

But while politicians are still wasting time publicly grilling oil executives, the real story is it is the free market and common sense, not global warming scare tactics or government penalties or government ideas that will ultimately force us to adapt.

Thirty years ago, the average car got about 13 miles per gallon. Remember how big and heavy those doors were? Now we have cars that get over 35 miles per hour, new hybrids that will get over 60 miles a gallon, and you know what? You couldn`t sell these things, what, about six months ago? Now everybody wants them.

By 2011, more than 18 new hybrid models will hit the U.S. market, along with hydrogen fuel cells, electric cars, even the compressed air car we`ve shown you on this program, all of which means hundreds of thousands of cars on the roads that use something other than gasoline, that we`re slaves to, to the Middle East.

Last week I called up General Motors. I do commercials for them on my radio program. And I said tell me about the fuel cell, tell me about the hydrogen cars. Are they even real? Well, they flew one out here, or brought one out here. I wanted to drive it and see it firsthand so I could show it to you. Is it the elusive flying car that we`ve all been promised? I`m actually still bitter about that, we never got it.

Here is what I found.


BECK: So this is just basically electric?

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: It`s basically an electric car, yeah. Electric car`s alive and well. You`re driving it right now.

BECK: And price?

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: We`re shooting for when we launch into the public to sell, we want to be in the mid-20s. We want them to be affordable.

BECK: Wow. Hydrogen, where do you get it? What is it?

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: It`s -- and that`s part of the beauty of it, Glenn, is it`s a completely renewable fuel source, and it`s something you can get right here in the U.S. At our White Plains fueling station, they actually extract it right on site, they electrolyze it right on site. They take 480 off of the grid, they bring in city tap water and they capture the hydrogen they get from electrolyzing it right there.

BECK: How are you going to make money of zapping water to be able to pay for the infrastructure of fueling stations?

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Of fueling stations? Well, that`s where you turn around and sell hydrogen to people.

BECK: How much IS a pound?

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Two dollars per kilogram, which is like $2 a gallon for gas.

BECK: And it is zero emissions? There is no tail pipe back there?

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: There is an exhaust diffuser back there and all that is coming out of that is water vapor, H2O, distilled pure vapor.

BECK: Why hasn`t this happened before?

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Fueling infrastructure is a major issue. We`ve got the one fueling station here in New York. We`re working on getting two more. California`s working on their hydrogen highway, but that`s been slow in coming. So fueling infrastructure really at this point is the thing that`s slowing us down.

BECK: I`m filling this up for how much? At two dollars a gallon.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: It holds four kilograms of hydrogen, so filling it up for $8, the EPA number, that gives you 160 miles of range.

BECK: And you say this is going to be available after 2010?

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Early part of next decade.


BECK: It`s unbelievable. By the way, that was Steven Marlin (ph) of GM. We asked Mary Beth Stanek, she is the director of environment, and safety policy with General Motors and also Ben Stewart, automotive expert and automotive editor at "Popular Mechanics." Mary Beth, let me start with you. The fueling station is the biggest hurdle, and you guys are teaming up with Shell, true or false?

MARY BETH STANEK, GENERAL MOTORS: We are. Shell`s done a wonderful job working with us to get stations in the right location in New York, California and DC.

BECK: So I saw the filling station, and by the way, an absolutely incredible car, just, you know, everything that you would hope it would be.

STANEK: Wonderful.

BECK: Yeah, it`s a great car. However, I saw the filling station, and there is giant power grid, you know, sitting there. You`re using all this electricity. How are you going to -- how are you not just using electricity, and how are you not going to have environmentalists saying, oh, the spotted clam! You`re using all of the water!

STANEK: You know, there`s a number of things we`re doing. We`re certainly looking into green hydrogen. It could come from biomass sources, the hydrogen. There`s a lot of good starts with natural gas. As you know, natural gas is a lot cleaner, much less particulates than some sources in order to get hydrogen.

You can get hydrogen from a number of sources, even different types of ammonia processes, which are byproducts from production in various facilities, even steel mills.

BECK: But you have -- I mean, for instance, ammonia. The guy who started Greenpeace left because Greenpeace said we should banish ammonia, drive to have it banned. It`s on the periodic table! (SIC)

STANEK: It is. (SIC)

BECK: The environmentalists are going to come at you in any way you go.

STANEK: I`m not so sure. I think if we can really move into hydrolysis, certainly, we`re seeing Niagara as an opportunity to create hydrogen, we can se hydrogen coming from solar opportunities and wind. As long as we can get the storage component locked in, we can do it in a number of ways that I think environmentalists would support. I really do see it happening. I think the thing that`s preventing it from happening immediately, it`s not as cost-competitive right now, but it will be soon.

BECK: OK. Ben, your thoughts on this?

BEN STEWART, "POPULAR MECHANICS": Well, Glenn, you know, I mean, I think hydrogen has a chance of making it in the future. The two problems that I see, besides infrastructure, comes from natural gas, but also the protonic exchange memo brain, the fuel cell itself is really, really expensive.

BECK: I hate those.

STEWART: It`s about $40,000.

BECK: I hate those protonic exchange things. I don`t even know what that is. I mean, I was driving this car and I said, so what is the engine exactly? And they were like, no, it`s not an engine, it`s a stack.

STANEK: It`s a stack.

BECK: Everything`s changed. What is it -- electro -- what is the thing you were just talking about?

STEWART: Basically it`s the fuel cell itself. You can consider that sort of the engine of a fuel cell car and that`s running automakers around $40,000 right now. That`s way too expensive at this point.

BECK: Mary Beth, I thought the car was coming out at about $25,000.

STANEK: Well, it will be when it`s matured, the next generation of technology will be there, but I will tell you that the commercial cost of the stack have come down significantly. You`re seeing the whole industry moving very quickly now because we`ve been able to take a very expensive process and getting it closer and closer to these commercial costs, and it`s getting pretty exciting.

BECK: You can`t tell me, Ben, that -- I mean, it`s got to be expensive to build, you know, what do you have, Mary Beth, 25 of these right now, something like that?

STANEK: We have 100, and they`re in the hands of consumers right now.

BECK: You`ve got 100 of them sitting out there. It`s got to be wildly expensive to do that, but once you start mass producing, Ben, don`t you think you can mass produce different kinds of cars and different kinds of technology?

STEWART: I do, but my question is why not just go to a plug-in hybrid using some sort of biofuel? I mean, everybody has a plug in their garage, battery technology`s really evolving. I mean, you can put a major dent in our demand for oil with plug-ins right now.

BECK: I have to tell you guys, what`s killing me is when you use the word bio fuel because I think this corn ethanol thing, the government should get out of the business of corn ethanol. There`s other kinds of ethanol that you can make or other bio fuels you can make that doesn`t burn up our fuel supply. Are you guys, either of you, big corn ethanol people?

STANEK: Well, I have to tell you, GM`s recently taken an equity stake in two companies that are making waste ethanol. Coscada (ph) and Mascomar (ph), two firms are really looking at technologies. It can take garbage, agriculture waste, wood waste and produce ethanol for $1 a gallon. So we`re pretty delighted about this opportunity and we se this coming in the next, I would say 24 to 36 months as being as a reality.

BECK: And Ben, would you say it`s accurate -- I`m going to put together kind of an energy counsel of people that I have talked to that are at the highest levels of business and thinking and everything else in there. They`ve all said the same thing -- it is a combination of all of these things.

STANEK: Yes, it is.

STEWART: It definitely is.

BECK: You can`t just look at one thing.

STEWARD: Yes. It certainly is, and I agree that the Coscada (ph) process is really smart technology. And that`s really the whole thing here. There are really a lot of smart people working on hydrogen fuel cells, working on bio fuels, working on battery technology, and it`s all going to come together, but it`s a ways down the line.

BECK: Mary Beth, Ben, thanks.

Tomorrow, I`m going to talk to you about the real issue facing energy cars, alternative energy cars, and that`s where do you fill up or where do you plug in to recharge your car? That`s tomorrow.

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We`ll be back with Kirk Cameron.


BECK: So, I went to the movies this weekend and I saw "Indiana Jones." Eh, it was OK. Then the next movie I saw was "Chronicles of Narnia: Caspian." Fantastic! And I knew I should have loved it when I read the reviews, because they all said, oh, no, this, it`s all stuff - I don`t understand why people would like that. Of course not, they don`t understand faith films, and that`s what "Narnia" is, and it`s fantastic. I want to talk little about that and his new book "Still Growing" with Kirk Cameron, who you know from "Growing Pains," and also the "Left Behind" series. You were in the "Left Behind" series. Let me start with the "Narnia" thing.

Why is it that Hollywood just doesn`t see that good, solid faith films would work or do work?

KIRK CAMERON, ACTOR: I don`t know. Sometimes I don`t understand it myself. Obviously, we look at "The Passion of the Christ," and everyone`s trying to ride that whole wave to the bank and sort of cash in on all of that, so we`re starting to see more of them now, but when you look at the fact that, you know, 80, 90 percent of the people in this country say that I believe in god and we love this stuff and I`m all about it, why you don`t see more, I scratch my head.

BECK: And you were in the "Left Behind" series. I talked to Tim LaHaye and Jerry Jenkins, and they said, you know, we wanted, you know, massive, block-buster money behind it.


BECK: And nobody -- and here it is one of the biggest book series of al time.


BECK: Did you scratch your head, what are we doing?

CAMERON: Yeah. Well, I think one of the things that "The Passion of the Christ" did, obviously, for faith-oriented films, was it showed what can happen when you take a great story, a historical narrative like the life of Christ, and pour a lot of money and a lot of excellence and talent into it and that`s what often Christian films I think don`t do or haven`t done in the past and now I think we`re getting up to speed where they`re being taken seriously.

BECK: You weren`t a kid of faith, were you?


BECK: When you were doing "Growing Pains," I mean, you fired -- with your book, you fired your mom.

CAMERON: Yeah. Try doing that as a teenager and hanging onto that relationship.

BECK: I mean, what happened there?

CAMERON: It was a great blessing for me to have my mother as my manager. She obviously cared about me more than anybody else did, so I could trust her. But at 17 years old, where my career reached a level to where you need to move on, it would be kind of like maybe having your mom manage your career now. You`d say mom, I love you, but .

BECK: Right.

CAMERON: Things are a little bit different.

BECK: Did she take it well?

CAMERON: She took it great. It was her job and career, so I think it hurt a bit, but it saved our relationship as mother and son.

BECK: Right. Then how did you find faith in Hollywood?

CAMERON: Some people said, you know, Kirk really got religious and he sort of jumped into or jumped off the deep end, but there was just a time in my life where I had everything going for me, I had grabbed the golden ring, so to speak, and I realized that, you know, no matter what, about the fact I`ve got al this stuff, I`m part of the ultimate statistic. Ten out of 10 people die. And if I`m wrong about this god thing, things are not good with me, because I know I`m not right with God and I began asking questions and seeking out the truth.

BECK: Who guided you? I think Ronnie Howard, you may be one of the only others, Ronnie -- Ronnie -- Ron Howard, when he was on "The Andy Griffith Show," it was Andy Griffith who he said saved me, he had values al the way through. You`ve seen -- besides firing your mom -- you`re normal, you made it through. Who guided you, anybody, or just you?

CAMERON: Well, I go into this in the book a bit. I really didn`t just join a religion. My faith is not some shallow religious idea. What it is is I began asking questions. God, if you`re there, I want to know. If you`re real, I don`t want to be duped into some silly religion. I want to know if you`re there. I followed a girl into church .

BECK: That`s the way it always happens.

CAMERON: Not to find out about God, I wanted to find out about her. I heard the gospel for the first time and was fascinated and convicted by its truths, and when I embraced it, God began changing me into a different person on the inside, and that .

BECK: Did you get the girl?

CAMERON: Yeah, we -- she was my girlfriend for a while.

BECK: Really? See, I had to marry mine.

CAMERON: Did you?

BECK: Yeah, she said I`m not marrying you unless we go to church. And I was like, oh, really? But she was hot, so we got married. I kind of wrecked that story, I think, at the end here, didn`t I?

CAMERON: No, it`s a good story. And I actually married my onscreen girlfriend from "Growing Pains."

BECK: Really?

CAMERON: Who also loves the Lord, and that really has been the glue in our relationship, to be able to be married for 17 years in Hollywood.

BECK: Congratulations on that. New book is "Still Growing," Kirk Cameron. It is out in book stores now. Time now for "The Real America," brought to you by CSX. Our country has a history of generations of families serving in the military, fathers, sons, brothers, uncles, everybody, but in Ohio, there`s one family that has three sisters that are all serving together.


BECK (voice-over): Since they were young, the Granger sisters have always been close. But when 27-year-old Domanie decided to enlist in the Ohio National Guard last May, she didn`t think her sisters would follow her lead.

CADET DOMANIE GRANGER, OHIO NATIONAL GUARD: I just kind of looked back after what I`ve done in the last year, and I realize that I`ve accomplished like so much. I think that`s a fantastic experience, and I`ve learned to fire an M-16, I`ve crawled through mud, I`ve thrown grenades. It`s just been amazing.

BECK: She spoke to her sisters often about her amazing experiences, so much so that 20-year-old Maewellyn knew it was the place for her as well and signed up two months later.

PV2 MAEWELLYN GRANGER, OHIO NATIONAL GUARD: Just with my friends not really doing anything with themselves, just sitting around. I was like, I don`t ever want to be like that. I want to go out and do something with myself actually to say that I`ve achieved something and actually contributed to society.

UNIDENTIIFED FEMALE: After going through basic training and having those experiences and being able to relate back to each other, we`ve actually kind of grown closer over that.

BECK: But the biggest surprise was when 25-year-old Tavissa, the artsy one, announced last month that she to would be joining the National Guard for six years.

PV1 TAVISSA GRANGER, OHIO NATIONAL GUARD: I was enlisted a month ago, and I enlisted because both my sisters were involved in the Army, and seemed like they were really accomplishing a lot and having a great sense of satisfaction with themselves.

BECK: Now they are believed to be the first three sisters to enlist in the Ohio National Guard, a distinction they don`t really see as a big deal.

T. GRANGER: A lot of times it`s three brothers, but three sisters is pretty rare, but I`m excited that we`re al doing it, I think we`ll all accomplish good things with it.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: I think it`s wonderful that all of us joined. I think we all realize that we had a lot of opportunities to do something wonderful and have some adventures, learn things that other people weren`t learning. I mean, so I think that if you want like a life that`s a little less ordinary, I mean, I think that`s what all three of us really wanted and so I think that we kind of took this path to kind of do that.

BECK: But all three are now well aware that people are watching them, especially other women.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: I`m hoping that it will like promote more people to join, like especially females, because I think we could play a big role in it.


BECK (on camera): If you`d like to see more stories like this one, just click onto and look for the "Real America" section. Tonight`s "Real America," sponsored by CSX. It`s how tomorrow moves.


BECK: Dramatic pictures today from NASA. I say they`re dramatic because I think that`s what you`re supposed to say when you`re showing pictures from NASA for some reason or another, but I don`t think they`re all that dramatic, quite frankly. I mean, if I`m living on Jupiter and I`ve had that vicious storm twice the size of Earth hanging over my head, with 250-mile-per-hour winds over the last 750 years, I doubt any picture of it are all that dramatic, but maybe that`s just me.

Now there are three storms on Jupiter. Uh-oh, the spots are multi- playing. Better see a dermatologist. They`re blaming it on something very familiar - I`m not kidding -- climate change on Jupiter. In fact, even as we try to band together and try to eliminate the ferocious killer polar bear, climate change is not only happening here on Earth, it`s also happening on Jupiter, Neptune`s moon Triton, Pluto and Mars as well. The head of the research at the St. Petersburg Astronomical Observatory at Russia has a name I`m not even going to try to attempt to pronounce, but he believes that the simultaneous warming on several planets in our solar system at the same time indicates it`s the sun that is the real cause of warming here on Earth. Oh, crazy scientists, Trix are for kids, that`s crazy!

Instead, they`ll present this alternative theory -- that on Earth, it`s all our fault, humans. Jupiter, it`s the climatic cycle that churns up the gas interior. On Mars, it`s small alterations of the planet`s orbit on tilt. On Triton, it could be an extreme southern summer, or it could be changes in the ice makeup, causing it to absorb more heat. On Pluto, that`s a totally different story, it`s delayed thawing from the last close approach to the sun in 1989.

I guess the thawing was on vacation for the last 20 years or so. Which one sounds more crazy? Quite honestly, I think they`re both nuts, because it`s all manmade, and I have scientific evidence now that I have acquired, yes to prove it. Here is -- this is classified, as you can see there in red. On the bottom left is my SUV as I drive around the Earth. Then you see my really long tail pipe to space that feeds directly into Jupiter`s new storms. Then Mars gets my tail pipe leakage, because I didn`t weld it real well -- see there? And Mars turns into a sun as well. Pluto, it is the tilt thing or whatever it was. And this is science, all in black and white. It`s right there. The debate is over.

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