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Liz Truss Picked To Be Next British Prime Minister; Manhunt Underway In Canada For Two Stabbing Suspects; U.S. Judge Grants Trump's Special Master Request; Israeli Military: Shireen Abu Akleh Likely Killed By Israeli Fire; Soldiers Will Not Be Charged; Oder Halts Justice Dept. From Continuing Review Of Mar-a-Lago Materials Until Special Master Is Done. Aired 2-3p ET
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ISA SOARES, HOST, ISA SOARES TONIGHT: A very warm welcome to the show, everyone, I'm Isa Soares coming to you live from outside the houses of
parliament in London. Tonight, hours away from becoming Britain's next prime minister. Liz Truss faces an economic downturn, energy crisis, an
ongoing war in Europe.
Then, police are hunting for two suspects after one of the worst mass killings in Canada's history. And a U.S. judge has granted Donald Trump's
request for a special master to review the documents that the FBI seized from his Mar-a-Lago estate. Good evening, everyone. What a day it has been
outside here. The houses of parliament, Liz Truss has won over the U.K.'s Conservative Party, they've chosen her to become the next British prime
Now, on Tuesday, Boris Johnson will offer his resignation to the queen, and Truss will be invited to form a new government. She will be stepping into
power as the U.K. of course, faces multiple crises. The cost of living is skyrocketing. The National Health Service is dangerously strained.
And of course, energy prices, as we've been telling you on the show have been soaring and will continue to soar. That is the expectation, and while
Truss is promising to tackle these head-on with tactics that appeal to the party that elected her. Have a listen.
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LIZ TRUSS, PRIME MINISTER-ELECT, UNITED KINGOM: I campaigned as a conservative and I will govern as a conservative.
And my friends, we need to show that we will deliver over the next two years. I will deliver a bold plan to cut taxes and grow our economy.
(END VIDEO CLIP)
SOARES: So who is Liz Truss? Well, Bianca Nobilo gives us a closer look at the incoming prime minister and what her hard-line policies could mean for
an anxious nation.
BIANCA NOBILO, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Britain has a new prime minister. An ambitious political chameleon.
TRUSS: I know that we will deliver, we will deliver and we will deliver.
NOBILO: Liz Truss is unlikely a sentence complete. Her leadership campaign got off to a shaky start. She couldn't even find the door, notoriously
TRUSS: We import two-thirds of our cheese. That is a disgrace.
NOBILO: Tactless about Britain's closest ally.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: President Macron, friend or foe?
TRUSS: The jury is out
NOBILO: And mocked by Russia's foreign minister.
SERGEY LAVROV, FOREIGN MINISTER, RUSSIA (through translator): It seems like we listen but don't hear.
NOBILO: The former Foreign Secretary was widely considered to be less informed and less willing to be scrutinized than her rival, Rishi Sunak.
But that didn't stop her, because she wasn't appealing to the wider British public. One of two candidates selected by Tory lawmakers, Truss was
ultimately chosen by less than 1 percent of the British electorate.
A slither of the conservative base. Older, whiter and more right-wing than the average voter. She played a blinder. Promising a hard line on
immigration and tax cuts to a party drifting further to the right. Channeling their hero, Margaret Thatcher, even dressing like her. Like half
of Britain's prime ministers, she studied here at Oxford University. But back then, she was a liberal democrat activist In favor of legalizing
cannabis and abolishing the monarchy.
TRUSS: Abolish them! We've had enough.
NOBILO: Now, she's the darling of the right-wing of Britain's conservative. The pro-monarchy party of law and order, quite the 180. And
when it comes to Britain's biggest political question of the last decade, Brexit, she supported remaining in the EU, only to re-emerge as a born-
again Brexiteer, and the U-turns continued.
Before graduating in 1996 with a degree in politics, philosophy and economics, Liz Truss campaigned alongside Neil Fawcett for two years.
NEIL FAWCETT, LIBERAL DEMOCRAT COUNCILLOR & FORMER TRUSS COLLEAGUE: She certainly always seem to be very ambitious. And sometimes you thought her
main aim was to impress people, but she was always playing to the gallery.
She would say what needed to be said to win popularity amongst the people she was in front of at the time.
NOBILO (on camera): Do you feel like she does have substance?
FAWCETT: I couldn't tell you what she actually believes.
NOBILO (voice-over): Her supporters though see flexibility, independence of mind and a boldness.
CHRIS SKIDMORE, BRITISH CONSERVATIVE MP: She doesn't take no for an answer, she said. And I've seen that as a minister myself, in private. You
know, she can be direct, but she is also very warm. And I think that, that has endeared her to many MPs.
NOBILO: Truss inherits a nightmare, war in Europe, a biting cost of living crisis. The country braced for a Winter of potential black-outs and fuel
Britain's desperately hoping she'll leverage that ambition and adaptability to rise to the challenge. Bianca Nobilo, CNN, London.
SOARES: Let's cross now to Nina dos Santos who is live outside 10 Downing Street. And Nina, we heard -- we heard from Liz Truss saying that she will
deliver. And she's got a huge in trade. Talk us through how exactly she's planning to deliver. I know we're short on details for now at least.
NINA DOS SANTOS, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Yes, low on time, short on details, she's short on time as well here, Isa. She has said -- you said that she's
going to come up with this bold plan and everybody is waiting with bated breath, not just members of the Conservative Party who voted her in as
their leader over the Summer.
But also your average person who will in two years time become a voter in the general election, has to be called in January 25, 2025. Because they're
going to be having to suffer energy costs that will spike 80 percent in the month of October when we've got a price cap that is said to be lifted. And
they'll be further lifted, the price cap thereafter.
This is a country that's contending with a potential inflation rate according to some economists predictions of over 20 percent next year. So,
there's very little time for a honeymoon here for Liz Truss. What you have to give her at least, is the fact that she does have quite some experience
of many different political offices.
She has served in five different apartments including here in number 11, the Treasury. She's also been the foreign secretary, which is one of the
biggest briefs in the land, and she served three prime ministers over the time, 12 years of the conservative government has been in power.
However, having said that, it appears as though she doesn't agree with some of the policies that she might assess around the cabinet table with and
help to push through. Like say for instance, taxes. She says that taxes are far too high in this country and she wants to slash them from day one to
try and stave off a recession and spur growth.
Some economists say it's unlikely she's going to be able to do that, without having to borrow an awful lot of money. And that's an expensive
thing to do when inflation is high and interest rates are also rising as well. We're likely to get more details over the next couple of days, Isa,
about where exactly she stands on all these plans as we see her cabinet being unveiled.
Already, in the last few hours, we've seen outgoing members of Boris Johnson's cabinet resigning like say, for instance, Priti Patel resigning
as the Home Secretary. That obviously making way for Liz Truss' choice of home secretary, some of the speculation has been that, that might be Suella
Braverman who was once the attorney general in the machinery of government.
What a lot of political analysts are saying she really should try and do is leverage all of the talent inside this divided party, because she's got a
really difficult job on her hands. That job will start tomorrow afternoon when she gets the keys to Downing Street after heading to Scotland for an
audience with the queen during which she will be invited to form a government and become the next prime minister. The third female to hold
this office in the U.K. Isa?
SOARES: Thanks very much. Nina dos Santos outside 10 Downing Street. Well, my next guest was a special adviser in the conservative government and
former chief press officer at Downing, Mo Hussein joins me now. Mo, this unprecedented amount of work and challenges that Liz Truss faces. What do
you make of what you've heard so far in terms of her bold plan as she calls it?
MO HUSSEIN, POLITICAL COMMENTATOR: Well, so far, we've heard campaign mobilist Truss. So, a few nuggets here and there. And aimed at the
conservative members and you know, people on the right side of the Conservative Party. Now she has to shift to governing and appeal to a much
Lots of people in the U.K. who have conservative leanings but are not members of the party. And they want to hear about what she's going to do on
the cost of living crisis and the rising energy bills, and as does the rest of the country, in fact.
SOARES: From what you've heard so far, does she -- does her -- what does her plan sound like? Because I know we're short on details as Nina was
saying. But do you think that, that plan will be a resounding success with the majority of people up and down the country?
HUSSEIN: So, the plan sounds very much like what opposition parties have been saying for a few weeks. I think this is a popular idea amongst the
public. There was a poll a few weeks ago saying conservative voters supported this plan of freezing energy bills for a couple of years.
So, I think that's where we'll get to, probably not through choice because she did start her journey saying no handouts --
SOARES: Yes --
HUSSEIN: And now we are going to quite a big state intervention. So, I think it will be popular and it will help people, but it will cause her
problems politically, because the MPs who support her on the right to the party want to move away from the idea of the state always intervening or
the government being the first point-of-call.
SOARES: She also very much campaigned along those lines.
HUSSEIN: She did, indeed, exactly. And moving away from the precedent set by the pandemic. So to go back to that, I think will raise a few questions
amongst the people who were her allies and her supporters, and the people who voted for her as well. And this could be a pattern because I think a
lot of the things she's been talking about in the campaign targeted at this very small group of the U.K. population. I'm afraid not really going to see
the light of day in the next year --
SOARES: So, Mo, how does she find the balance, really of serving her country, getting those plans out, that policy out, and also having the
support of her party. Of course, she's got 57.4 percent, that's not so much as many people were expecting --
HUSSEIN: Correct --
SOARES: In terms of vote. That signifies perhaps you tell me whether she needs to unify the party further. And whether that -- she faces a
challenge, even getting policies through within her own party.
HUSSEIN: That was definitely a challenge there for her. One of the biggest jobs in -- for the prime minister -- and I spent four years working in
Downing Street is uniting and managing your MPs. You need them to support you to get your legislation through the House of Commons. A lot of MPs did
not support her.
She didn't get the majority of their support in the first stage of this. And now she has to think very carefully about who is around her cabinet
table. Are there some overtures she can make to the other side of the party? And are there any policies that she can make that are a bit more
aimed at the wider population rather than just the members. And that may go some way to --
SOARES: You're hinting at tax cuts here?
HUSSEIN: Tax cuts. I think people will see more on that because that's quick and easy thing to do. I mean, the other thing to remember is that she
really has an 18-month window to do anything, before you get into campaign mode again --
SOARES: Yes --
HUSSEIN: For the next election.
SOARES: But some might say tax cuts only helping the -- you know, those better off in the country rather than the poorest.
HUSSEIN: Yes, and there will --
SOARES: And that's a criticism, yes --
HUSSEIN: Exactly, there will be statistics to show that as well. So, I think she'll have to come up with other policies and other ideas that
appeal to the wider base of voters. You lean conservative, but who may not subscribe to the ideology as such --
SOARES: Very quickly, Mo. Will she be looking at more conciliatory cabinet you think? Given that she has to try and appeal to the population and to
different this year?
HUSSEIN: Well, I think this is an interesting point, because she should be. And I think the advice to her will be, you need to get a range of
voices that she has said across Conservative Party, but equally, if you have 18 months to do something, you probably want people who are friends
and supporters who are just going to deliver what you want them to deliver, rather than people who may be having their own ideas and creating
alternative power bases.
So, I think there will be a range of advice going to her about what does she actually need around her to get the results that she wants. And you may
have a few token appointments to appease the people who did not support her. But really, I think it would be quite a slew(ph)-point cabinet who she
will be in command and control of.
SOARES: Thank you very much, Mo Hussein, great to have you on the show. Well, Ukraine's president spoke with outgoing British Prime Minister Boris
Johnson today, thanking him for helping counter Russian aggression. Volodymyr Zelenskyy also talked about Ukraine's counteroffensive in the
south which he says is making good progress.
Mr. Zelenskyy confirms two settlements in the region have been liberated as well as one in Donetsk in the east. Let's bring in CNN's Sam Kiley, he's
live for us in Odessa. Sam, let's start in Zaporizhzhia where that last operating reactor has been disconnected from the grid. What does that mean
from a safety point of view here, Sam.
SAM KILEY, CNN SENIOR INTERNATIONAL CORRESPONDENT: Well, it's potentially disastrous in short. This is the third time to my reckoning in the space of
about 10 days that there has been a cut off of the mains electricity to the Zaporizhzhia nuclear power plant. Now, the previous two triggered the
emergence diesel generators than in diesel essentially, because as does the main supply, they handle the cooling for the nuclear reactors.
Now, according to the Ukrainian nuclear administration, they are saying that they disconnected this number six reactor from the grid because of a
fire along its line, not because the line had actually been destroyed, they were hoping to do some repairs on the line and deal with the fire. But this
is all occurring at a time when they're blaming the Russians for that fire.
Of course, the Russians traditionally blame the Ukrainians for all kinds of shelling in that area. Whatever he said, she said of this though, Isa, the
shutting down -- the so-frequent shutting down of nuclear reactors or rather the shutting down of the power to nuclear reactors does ultimately
risk a melt-down.
Because what it does is, it puts yet more pressure on those emergency systems of back-up power. Isa?
SOARES: And there's two -- there's two -- correct me if I'm wrong. There's two IAEA representatives still at the plant, is that right, Sam?
KILEY: That's right, yes. There were six, four left over the weekend to continue to help Rafael Grossi, the leader of that delegation, indeed, the
leader of the IAEA to produce their preliminary report on what's going on in that nuclear power station.
These two monitors are supposedly remaining there indefinitely to try to keep an eye, and as Mr. Grossi said, it's set to sort of represent a change
from night to day in terms of what the international community can say with authority is going on there. Because at the moment we're relying --
SOARES: Yes --
KILEY: Entirely on Russian claims and Ukrainian counter-claims. Isa?
SOARES: Let's talk about the battlefield, let's head south into Kherson where of course, Ukraine is sounding rather confident of its
counteroffensive. Bring us up-to-date on the latest there, Sam.
KILEY: Well, we're about a week -- just about a weekend to the counteroffensive. It went very well for the Ukrainians with CNN reporting
at the beginning of this campaign indeed in the first 24-hour, some four or so villages had changed hands, had been recaptured by advancing Ukrainian
Now, President Zelenskyy is saying two more have been captured in the south of the country and another one in the east of the country. One should not,
though, Isa, set too much store by such announcement because they could be -- this is a rapidly moving 1,500 frontline.
There's a focus though on Kherson. There's a determination in this counter- attack ultimately to capture that city. Citizens of that city once again being warned by the Ukrainian authorities to take cover, to stop pile,
battery charges, water, other food stuffs because there will be in their view a coming battle for that city. And of course, this is a Ukrainian
city. So, the Ukrainian armed forces very anxious to minimize civilian casualties there.
SOARES: Sam Kiley for us tonight in Odessa, Ukraine, thanks very much, Sam. And still to come tonight, a manhunt is on in Canada for these two men
suspected in a deadly stabbing rampage. We'll go to Ottawa for an update on the attacks that have an entire province on high alert.
And Europe's energy crunch escalates as Russia puts even more of a squeeze on national gas exports. What Europe's biggest economy is doing about it,
after the short break.
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TRUSS: I will deliver a bold plan to cut taxes and grow our economy. I will deliver on the energy crisis, dealing with people's energy bills, but
also dealing with the long-term issues we have on energy supply.
(END VIDEO CLIP)
SOARES: Quite broad, perhaps even vague words on the energy crisis from Liz Truss earlier today after the Conservative Party announced that she
will become the next British prime minister. Energy prices in the U.K. and Europe are still surging and Winter of course, is just around the corner.
Russia's decision to shut one of its key pipelines indefinitely is making the situation even more urgent. While Germany's chancellor has been
considerably more detailed today than the U.K.'s next prime minister. He's out with a plan to help fellow Germans with energy costs as gas fails to
resume through the Nord Stream 1 pipeline.
That helped coming in the form of a $64 billion relief package. Europe's biggest economy had to scramble of course, because it has relied heavily on
Russian gas exports to power its homes and heavy industries. CNN's Anna Stewart is in London with the latest on the developments, of course, on the
So, Anna, talk us through what Europe is doing to try and battle this. Of course, we're waiting for details from the new prime minister, takes office
tomorrow. But what is the rest of Europe doing?
ANNA STEWART, CNN REPORTER: So, we've had a number of plans, actually over recent months from various member-states. Some just inward looking, looking
at how they can help people, whether that's grant or subsidies, a few of course, discussing or even implementing windfall taxes from energy
And Germany put forward a very comprehensive package of help today. The problem is, of course, the whole prices on international markets are high,
so any help you give in terms of lowering those prices for people may actually feel further inflation, because at some stage, you would think
assuming Russian energy remains not really on the market.
Then sometimes, some people are going to have to pay that price. So, there are concerns, particularly analysts have spoken to, that subsidies and
grants may not be the long-term solution of anything they could actually call short-term pain. Now, for the U.K., there will be a package where you
heard from Liz Truss that she has a bold plan, she wants to lower taxes, she wants to remove red tape from various businesses, that's all very much
free market Tory.
What I would expect from Liz Truss, but she's also going to have to tackle this energy crisis as well. So she is looking to make a big announcement
about that. Will she freeze energy prices? That could be an interesting one. I think we have a graphic where we can show you just what energy
prices have done in recent months, because in the U.K., there's an energy cap. That keeps rising in line with wholesale prices, you can see where it
was in April.
You can see where it's about to go in October there for the next rise. It would have tripled the average bill for households over a year since April,
and then if you see in January, Isa, that is people spending thousands more. That's almost a quintupling of the annual energy bill for your
average household, from April last year to January next year.
It is simply unaffordable. And something like one and three households could be falling into fuel poverty this year. In fact, as early as next
month because they simply cannot afford their fuel bill.
SOARES: Yes, when some people have been telling me, they have to pick between heating and eating, it's pretty dire indeed. Anna Stewart there in
London, thanks very much, Anna. Well, OPEC and its allied oil-producing nations have agreed to a small output cut. Crude prices moved higher on the
cartels. It is the cartels' first production cut since the depths of the pandemic.
As it braces, of course, for global economic slowdown, that could hit demands. Well, in Canada, at least 10 dead and 18 wounded. But so far,
police have not caught the two men whom they say carried out this vicious stabbing attack Sunday in Saskatchewan. A massive manhunt is underway
across the province for these two suspects who have now been charged with murder.
Officials are also urging everyone in the province to be very cautious until the men are caught. The stabbing rampage happened on an indigenous
people's reserve, a nearby town northeast of Saskatoon. Authorities have not suggested a motive, but say some victims may have been targeted. CNN's
Paula Newton is in Canadian capital, Ottawa, tracking this for us. And Paula, bring us up to date where we are, really, as they're trying to find
these two suspects.
PAULA NEWTON, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Well, unfortunately, as you just brought the news, three more people added to the injured list, so that makes 10
people have died, 18 now injured, and sadly, no real clues so far as to where these suspects may be.
They remain at large, and of course, police emphasizing that they remain dangerous. We just received a police update, but only in the form of a
statement within the last hour. And there is a commander, Rhonda Blackmore, who wants to assure the people of Saskatchewan that they are going above
and beyond, and that they're using every human investigational and technological resource, they have to locate and arrest the persons
responsible for this tragedy.
Now, they could go on to say that they have laid these charges, Myles Sanderson has been charged with three counts of first degree murder, as
well as other charges, Damien Sanderson with one degree -- one charge of first-degree murder. And I will say, Isa, that they share the same family
name, police do not know if they're related in any way.
They are not assuming that they are. And as you highlighted earlier, an issue here is why? They are no closer to figuring out a motive. And the
thing that's even more puzzling is the fact that while some were targeted, there was at least one, if not more vicious random attack as well. Now,
going on to more than 24 hours, that was the last time that they thought that they had a good lead on where they might be.
That's about three and a half-hour drive away in the capital of Saskatchewan and Regina. No leads that we know of that they're talking
about since then. So far, it seems the trail has gone cold which as you can imagine, Isa, it's just so unsettling for so many who are suffering trauma.
Remember, these are rural, in some cases, very -- you know, isolated communities, but close-knit communities, and they are all mourning the
viciousness of these stabbing attacks.
SOARES: That must be so terrifying as when you said to me, you know, the trail has gone cold for those families, of course, waiting to know what
exactly is unfolding. In terms of motive, any theories that you're hearing from police as the motive for these -- for the two suspects to go on this
NEWTON: No, I will say that one of the suspects, Myles Anderson does appear, I'm not sure if it's still current, we have not been able to get
answers to that on the crime stoppers bulletin for having violated parole, that's on previous charges that included assault. At this point, though, we
are no closer to understanding a motive.
I will say that from what we can tell, again, these suspects knew some of the alleged victims, and that others, they did not know. The communities
themselves, the indigenous communities are asking for privacy, Isa. And I've reached out to a couple of people from the community, and one of the -
SOARES: Yes --
NEWTON: Indigenous groups, the federation there in the province, and they have said, in fact, that they do not wish to comment further on what they
really would like is for this terrifying ordeal now going on for a day and a half to just end. Again, they are completely traumatized about really how
vicious this entire attack was, and the devastation it's left on the community.
SOARES: Absolutely. Well, as soon as there's any more details, Paula, do bring -- do come back to us. Paula Newton there for us in Ottawa, Canada.
Thanks, Paula. And still to come tonight, Liz Truss takes center stage to become Britain's next prime minister. So, what's her plan to tackle the
country's cost of living crisis? We'll explore that next.
SOARES: Welcome back to our top story. Boris Johnson has congratulated Liz truss on her "decisive win" in the Conservative Party leadership race.
During her second speech, Liz Truss thanked her former boss. Have a listen.
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LIZ TRUSS, BRITISH CONSERVATIVE PARTY LEADER: Boris, you got Brexit done. You crushed Jeremy Corbyn. You rolled out the vaccine and you stood up to
Vladimir Putin. You are admired from Kyiv to Carlisle.
(END VIDEO CLIP)
SOARES: Well, meanwhile, labor leader Keir Starmer has wasted no time in taking a swipe at his new rival. He said Liz truss simply doesn't have the
answers to the cost of living crisis. My next guest in a Conservative MP who back Liz trust during the leadership contest even before the leadership
contest started, Alec Shelbrooke joins me now. And Alec, you were the -- one of the first MPs to really back Liz Truss. How happy are you that she
is the next Prime Minister? It's been a busy summer. I know. You were telling me.
ALEC SHELBROOKE, BRITISH CONSERVATIVE MP: I mean I'm over the moon. And I think, you know, I've known Liz for over 20 years, and we were working on
things together in the early 2000's. We both stood in West Yorkshire in 2005. I knew her in the 2001 campaign. I've known her a long time. And the
one thing I've known about her is she's really policy focused, and she's a deliverer. And I think you saw that in her speech today but it must be
SOARES: We'll talk about the speech in just a moment. Of course, our international viewers may know her, some may not. Obviously, we know her as
Foreign Secretary, some may never have heard of her or don't know much about Liz Truss. You know her well. What kind of character, what kind of
person is she?
SHELBROOKE: She's a serious person and a fun person at the same time. She's a pleasure to be around. But make no mistake, she's very, very focused. And
she gets results. And she wants results. And she wants sharp thinking and people who deliver. I think you saw some of that in the speech. I think
you've seen some of that in the campaign. But she's an exceptionally nice and fun person to be around as well, someone who you'll find it very easy
to work with.
SOARES: In terms of policy, you said she's focused, obviously very focused on policy. She talked about having a bold plan. Obviously, we don't have
the details so far. What kind of plan do you think she has up her sleeve when it comes to the cost of living prices that I was talking about
SHELBROOKE: Yes. I mean, look, this is so unprecedented that I think the specific you can take out of the campaign was that he's never ruled
anything out. And I think this strikes her pragmatism and must be looking at policy overall, because there's no point. I mean, if you just think
about where we were two months ago, three months ago, before the contest, and what was being said about helping energy bills, even from the
opposition saying take the VAT off, things have moved so much further forward then. And I think today was a 25 cents spike in gas prices that,
you know, she's got to think about what is it we actually need to do. And I think that you've had some headlines, but I think it's going to be a mix.
What I do know is it's not just going to be about handing out plasters, she's also going to be talking about supply-side reform, about storage,
about where our energy comes from, especially fossil fuels, gas fracking, I think, she's going to list -- lift the moratorium on that. So there's going
to be a big wide policy not just to solve the current crisis, but to try and solve things over the long run.
SOARES: Look, her entrees, it's definitely very full. And she has obviously the cost of living crisis and economy that she wants to try and boost, then
you have soaring inflation, 10, 11 percent, Goldman Sachs seeing potentially 22 percent. I mean -- and then obviously, the impact that has
on small businesses because it's not just helping people up and down the country, but there's businesses who are very desperate. So in terms of her
plan, in cutting taxes, is that the most fair plan you think? Will that help everyone in the country?
SHELBROOKE: Well, I think what's really important to recognize when we talk about cutting national insurance, so that is a tax on business as well. And
if you look at the tax cut she's spoken about, their tax -- their taxes, which would be going on business or are on business, and for a lot of
people who can afford their energy bills, they're doing that by taking money out of the retail economy.
So businesses are going to see their incomes drop. It's daft, and also trumpet the taxes up at the same time. So, I think, you know, it's all
about making sure we do everything we can to support business. And I expect we're going to see a radical plan on energy, one which perhaps would have
been unthinkable even a few weeks ago.
SOARES: And I'm guessing we'll hear something from the next week or so. I think this is something she hinted at today and getting that plan. It needs
to be quick and effective, very -- given the price that you -- the price surge that we are seeing. 57.4 percent of the vote she got today. Pollsters
were expecting it to be slightly better. What does that tell you in terms of whether she's capable of stitching the party together, getting these
policies through? Because this is a crucial time right now. Unprecedented as you said.
SHELBROOKE: Yes. The party will come together. There's no problem in that. We're two years from a general election, but the party recognizes we're all
in government and we have some massive crisis to deal with. Public aren't interested in the infighting anymore. We've gone through a tough time. I'm
talking to colleagues today. Actually, there's a little bit of excitement that, come on, let's get going. Let's get started. Because this entry is
frightening, it's unprecedented, and the party will just get behind the Prime Minister and get on with the job.
SOARES: I think people have seen like seven weeks of campaigning, they want to see politicians and getting the job done.
SOARES: Alec, always great to see you. Thanks very much for coming in.
SHELBROOKE: Thank you, Isa. Thank you very much.
SOARES: Thank you.
Well, London's Mayor Sadiq Khan says he wants Liz Truss to put an end to Downing Street's usual "anti-London approach." Those were his words.
Earlier, he told me what he means by that.
SADIQ KHAN, LONDON MAYOR: Liz Truss will be the fourth Prime Minister I get to work with. I'm hoping that she understands that actually the crisis our
country is facing, the economic pain that businesses and families are feeling is as bad, if not worse, than we saw during the global financial
crisis if 2008, but also the pandemic. We need to work together. And that means having policies that are politically convenient to the conservatives
in order to win seats in the north, and do damage to our capital city, because the point I've made to the Prime Minister is you simply don't get a
national recovery without the capital city firing on all cylinders.
SOARES: She said, I think it was last week, I'm sure you heard it at the hustings last weekend. I know she said "We have to get Sadiq Khan out of
London. London is being let down by Sadiq Khan. He's anti everything." What do you say to that?
KHAN: Well, what I say in a respectful way is rather than the future Prime Minister and the Conservative Party being fixated on me, they should be
obsessed and fixated on addressing the national crisis. How are we going to address the issue of soaring inflation? How are we going to address the
rising energy prices? How are we going to attract business to the U.K. and to London? I don't apologize for being pro-London, which means being anti-
poverty, anti-climate change, and to youth crime made worse by the policies of the Conservative Party over the last 12 years.
SOARES: That was the London Mayor Sadiq Khan speaking to me earlier. Well, for the first time, Israel acknowledges there is a high possibility that
one of its soldiers shot and killed Al Jazeera journalist Shireen Abu Akleh back in May, but it says it will not pursue criminal charges, calling her
death an accident. The Palestinian-American journalist was wearing a vest clearly marked press when she was shot in the head while covering an
Israeli raid in the West Bank.
CNN's own investigation shows there were no Palestinian militants near Abu Akleh when she was killed. Let's get more on this from CNN's Hadas Gold who
joins us now live from Jerusalem. So Hadas, IDF really saying what we had already told them, right? So CNN's own investigation have already confirmed
this so talk us through the findings.
HADAS GOLD, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Yes, and not only CNN's own investigation, several other investigations undertaken by other media organizations,
including the United States State Department own determination after looking at both the Palestinian and the Israeli information, all came to
the same conclusion that it was most likely Israeli gunfire that ultimately killed Shireen Abu Akleh while she was covering that Israeli military raid
in Jeanine in May, almost four months ago.
But we are finally getting these really military's own conclusions into their own investigation. Now what they say is that they had a big briefing
with reporters, they said that their soldiers were in the area to conduct counterterrorism raids as we already knew that they had come under fire for
an hour and 15 minutes before Shireen Abu Akleh was killed and that they believe that the fatal shot likely came from soldiers who were sitting in
an armored military vehicle, south of where Shireen Abu Akleh and her colleagues were standing.
They say that the soldiers who they believe fired the fatal shot did not see that they were members of the press, although as we've noted multiple
times that Shireen was wearing protective gear, including the protective flak jacket that says "press" on both the front and the back of her vest.
But Israeli military says that these soldiers had limited sight out of this armored vehicle and thought that they were shooting at militants, although
our own investigation has shown that there were no militants in her immediate area. When asked about this, the IDF said that there were
militants further north of her. And that's why the soldiers believe that they were firing at militants. But again, we've all seen the images and the
videos and to those of us seeing those images and videos from the perspective of those videos, you can see that she is wearing very clearly
Now the -- an Israeli -- a senior Israeli official who briefed reporters says that the soldier very much regrets the incident, that this was not
supposed to happen, it should not happen and he did not do this on purpose. Now, there will actually be no criminal prosecution of the soldier. This
was a big question, not only about what the Israeli military will ultimately say happen. But if they do determine that it was an Israeli
soldier that killed her, would there be any sort of consequences? And what we're learning is that there doesn't appear that there will be any sort of
The Israeli military Advocate General's Office also released a statement where they said that after reviewing the information, they determined that
the soldier did not deliberately fire at anyone identified as a civilian, and in particular, at anyone identified as a journalist. And so because of
that, they will not be following it with any sort of criminal prosecution. Isa.
SOARES: So if there's no prosecution, there are no consequences. What has been the reaction for Shireen Abu Akleh's family here, Hadas?
GOLD: Well, Shireen Abu Akleh and Al Jazeera have released statements. Shireen Abu Akleh's reaction -- or the family's statement was very strong.
They said that the Israelis are trying to obscure the truth and avoid responsibility, saying that they have refused to take responsibility for
killing Shireen, saying that Israelis could not be trusted to investigate themselves. And they're continuing to call for a more thorough they say
independent investigation, especially one that they want conducted by the United States because Shireen was a citizen as well of the United States.
And Al Jazeera actually just put out their statement in the last few minutes and they say that they denounce the Israeli's lack of frank
recognition of its crime in its attempt to evade prosecution. They noted how the Israelis have called this an unfortunate incident and accident,
something they didn't intend to happen. But they -- and Al Jazeera's also calling for an independent international body to investigate the crime of
the assassination of Shireen Abu Akleh in order to establish justice for her.
So clearly, a lot of anger still that although the Israeli military has acknowledged that it was likely one of their soldiers that killed Shireen
Abu Akleh, it doesn't seem as though there will be any major consequences for that. Isa.
SOARES: Hadas Gold for us there in Jerusalem this hour. Thanks very much, Hadas. Appreciate it.
Now to legal victory for former U.S. President Donald Trump, a federal judge has granted, just granted a request for an independent special master
to review the documents that the FBI seized at Trump's Mar-a-Lago state. The judge is also halting the Justice Department from continuous review of
the materials that were seized for the time being. Let's go straight to Washington. That's where we find our Evan Perez. So Evan, so he now has a
special master, do you know how soon that special master will start the work and how do they go about appointing a special master even here, Evan?
EVAN PEREZ, CNN SENIOR U.S. JUSTICE CORRESPONDENT: Yes, let's -- there's a lot of open questions at this point, Isa. The judge gave a deadline of
Friday for the Trump legal team and the Justice Department to come up with possible names for a special master. Typically, these are like a former
judge, or retired judge, or lawyer who's going to be the third party that's going to review all of the documents, everything that was taken from the
home of the former president.
She also said that this -- the -- she wants the two sides to come to an agreement on the limitations and the duties of this special master. What
she said was, you know, this, the effect of this is that this will pause what the Justice Department is doing. They cannot review -- continue to
review the documents, even though they've already done so for three weeks. She also said that she wanted the intelligence community to continue their
risk assessment. This is an ongoing process that is separate from the criminal investigation.
But make no -- but she made no bones about the fact that she viewed the former president as a special case. She pointed out -- I'll read you just a
part of what she says, "As a function of the plaintiff's former position as the president United States, the stigma associated with the subject seizure
is in a league of its own." Essentially, the former president is a sort of a separate class of citizen in the United States, who, just by the fact
that the FBI went through his home and did a court authorized search, she's saying he's already suffered some kind of stigma from -- as a result of
that, something that, you know, average citizens, of course, never actually get a chance to argue in court. Isa.
SOARES: Important context there from our Evan Perez in Washington. Thanks very much, Evan. Good to see you.
PEREZ: Thanks for having me,
SOARES: Well, still to come tonight, The United Nations is calling it a monsoon on steroids. One-third of Pakistan is already underwater and a
humanitarian crisis ahead, that story after this short break.
SOARES: It's been called a monsoon on steroids. One-third of Pakistan has been engulfed by floodwaters, and health authorities warn disease and
famine are likely to follow, as Anna Coren now reports children are among those suffering the most.
ANNA COREN, CNN CORRESPONDENT: As rushing floodwaters turn stagnant, the nightmare for Pakistani citizens who survived the initial onslaught now
displaced by one of the worst flooding events in the country's history has only just begun.
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MUHAMMAD KHURSHID, FLOOR SURVIVOR (through translator): Villages have been submerged one after another. Our village was on the front side and it was
also submerged. In 30 minutes, our village was there no more.
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COREN: With an estimated more than one-third of the country underwater, makeshift shelters like this one are overrun with survivors with no homes
to return to.
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UNIDENTIFIED MALE (through translator): There are too many people, very few rooms. The bathrooms are clogged and there's no water.
(END VIDEO CLIP)
COREN: Hunger, lack of sanitation, and disease now threaten to extend the monumental suffering for the more than 33 million people affected.
(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)
FAISAL EDHI, EDHI FOUNDATION (through translator): I can see a very big famine looming very close very soon. I can see its initial stages. Right
now, there are people who are hungry for a week or even 10 days. This is a very alarming situation.
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COREN: Doctors also sounding the alarm about a system struggling to cope.
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VIJAY KUMAR, HOSPITAL DOCTOR (through translator): Before the floods, we used to see 50 to 60 patients during my night duty, but now, we're seeing
130 to 140 patients due to illness arising from unsanitary conditions.
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COREN: Well, it's almost impossible to comprehend the level of devastation brought on by what the U.N. calls a monsoon season on steroids. This
satellite image of just one district in Punjab province a little less than a month ago compared with now gives a glimpse into just how dire the
situation is. For some fortunate enough to see floodwaters recede, a new shock.
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ASHAN ULLAH, SHOPKEEPER (through translator): The town has been turned to ruins. Before, it was a lively place and hundreds of tourists would come
and go, but now, everything is turned to ruins.
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COREN: Aid agencies, alongside the Pakistani military, are doing their best to reach those still cut off by impassable roads with Herculean rescue
efforts ongoing. And as the death toll continues to rise, more rains are expected for much of September. That forecast, an ominous warning that the
worst may be far from over. Anna Coren, CNN, Hong Kong.
SOARES: Let's return to our top story this hour. Liz Truss will be Britain's next prime minister after beating her rival, Rishi Sunak, to win
the Conservative Party leadership contest. Bianca Nobilo joins me now to discuss it all. Bianca, great to have you on the show. Let's talk first
with her 57.4 percent win. Not as great as we -- the majority of pulses were expecting. What does that suggest in terms of the work ahead for her
with within her own cabinet?
BIANCA NOBILO, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Well, first of all, just to underscore that point that I've been speaking to members of her team, kind of in a
sanctum, and they were hoping for 60 at a minimum 60 percent of the vote, maybe 66 would have been fantastic because that would have mirrored what
Boris Johnson got. And without being able to go to the public to get that mandate, it just gives a bit of confidence to the party going forward that
you have people behind you. So, she did fall short and Rishi Sunak did a bit better than expected. So, that's never a good place to start from
because it means that you've fallen short of expectations.
SOARES: So what does that suggest in terms of how she will plan, how she's prepping her cabinet?
NOBILO: It might make her feel more inclined to involve more of the party, understanding that she can't just press ahead and be extremely bold with
her leadership like Boris Johnson perhaps could have done after a stomping election victory. She's going to need to be more conciliatory to bring
people on board, have more of a broad church if she's going to have any prospect of success. But even the way that her speech landed, which she
SOARES: Quite short, wasn't it?
NOBILO: So it was very short given that she has had time to prepare for this and the team were expecting her to win, even though they were hedging
and not wanting to say to the media or taking anything for granted, it was a fairly underwhelming speech. It fell quite flat. She was a little awkward
at the beginning of it as well. She paid tribute to Boris Johnson's legacy and I think it really set out her stool as being somewhat of a continuity
candidate following Johnson. We know that she's more right-wing when it comes to a smaller state, cutting taxes than Boris Johnson.
But it was interesting, that didn't go down particularly well with some members of the Conservative Party.
SOARES: That's interesting. I mean, not only was it short speech, it was -- it also lacked a lot of detail.
NOBILO: It did. Her entire campaign has lacked detail. So what we've seen is very vague promises and also some shape shifting going on. Because what
she promised at the beginning evolved throughout in response to pressure from the media, predictions from economists, she has changed. And obviously
the economic circumstances are worsening, so she's got to take that into account.
But this just underlines a real concern that people have about her, that she flits between political perspectives, that no one's entirely sure what
she does believe going ahead into facing these crises. I think people want to have a sense of who their leader is.
SOARES: Unprecedented challenges. Bianca, thank you very much. And, of course, Bianca will be back with The Global Brief live from here outside
Parliament, that's at 10:00 p.m. here in London. Thanks very much for watching tonight. Do stay with CNN. I'll be right back with "QUEST MEANS
BUSINESS" live from outside the Houses of Parliament.