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President Trump Heads To G7 Summit After Tentative Agreement With Iran; President Zelenskyy Set To Push Leaders For More Air Defenses After Another Deadly Russian Strike; Shocker At The FIFA World Cup As Cape Verde Holds Soccer Giant Spain To A Goalless Draw; U.S.-Iran Agreement Impact On Lebanon; Newsom Says He's Being Investigated By Trump Justice Dept.; U.S. And Iran: Formal Agreement To Be Signed In Geneva Friday; Protecting Children From Online Harm. Aired 2-3p ET
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ISA SOARES, HOST, ISA SOARES TONIGHT: A very warm welcome to the show, everyone, I'm Isa Soares. Tonight, just hours after announcing a tentative
agreement with Iran, President Trump meet with world leaders at the G7 as key questions remain over what comes next. We'll have the very latest for
you.
Then Ukraine's President Zelenskyy is set to push leaders for more air defenses after another deadly Russian strike overnight. Plus, we'll bring
you all the action both on-and-off the pitch on day five of the FIFA World Cup. That, and of course, much more ahead for you this hour.
It's a war that had murky objectives and caused complete economic chaos right around the world could now be closer to coming to an end. But despite
the heralding of a tentative deal, the U.S. and Iran have very different accounts of where things stand, and the scope, of course, of the challenges
that remain.
With that agreement in hand, U.S. President Donald Trump arrived for the start of the G7 Summit just a few hours ago for talks with European
leaders, including France's Emmanuel Macron. Have a listen.
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DONALD TRUMP, PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES: The deal is all signed, and the strain is already partially opened. As you know, they are doing a
little hunting for a couple of mines that they've already found.
But it's essentially, ships are starting to go out now, on Friday, it will be completely opened. We got along very well with Iran. It's a different
set of leaders.
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SOARES: And while Trump administration officials are celebrating the tentative deal, it must be pointed out that the war is not over, and there
will be 60 days of negotiations before a final agreement can be signed, sealed and delivered.
It's clear, for example, that Washington and Tehran are far apart when it comes to the Strait of Hormuz.
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JAMES DAVID VANCE, VICE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES: Well, our expectation is that the Strait is going to be opened in a toll-free way for
the long-term. And that's the sort of thing that we're going to figure out in these tactical negotiations.
You know, there are a lot of very important details to figure out, that we're actually going to sit at the table and discuss together and figure
out a path forward on these details.
ESMAIL BAGHAEI, SPOKESPERSON, FOREIGN MINISTRY, IRAN (through translator): We have always said that we are not seeking to collect transit tolls.
However, in return for the services that we will provide, including navigation services, environmental protection, potentially ship insurance
and other services offered by Iran and Oman.
The necessary costs will be covered and corresponding fees will be collected. Therefore, the matter is quite clear.
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SOARES: I'm just going to pause there for just one moment, because Prime Minister Netanyahu is addressing his nation. Let's listen in.
BENJAMIN NETANYAHU, PRIME MINISTER, ISRAEL (through translator): I was on it until now, and I will do it in the future with or without an agreement.
Iran will not have nuclear power, not today, not tomorrow as long as I am the Israeli Prime Minister, it will not happen.
Now, I hear people ask, what did we achieve? And I answer, what did we achieve? We distance an immediate, clear and present danger along with our
friends, the Americans. We went to the greatest Air Force, and we crushed the nuclear infrastructure, destroyed missiles, and most of the factories
that make them.
We damaged dozens of infrastructures, their sea and air forces. We did billions of dollars of damage, some, a trillion of dollars for the economy
of Iran. And which took them dozens of years to build.
But the most important thing is that we saved the state of Israel from clear and present nuclear danger, because Iran was running towards it, and
the nuclear power and its missile deep underground.
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If we didn't act the way -- the time we did and, in the force, we did, both in the first operation and then the second one with a historical
cooperation with President Trump and the American army. Iran would already have atomic bombs.
And the meaning of that is that millions of citizens of Israel, those of you who hear me now, you would have been in horrific danger of mass death.
All of us would have been in this danger. We put it further and further years ahead, and we saved it from destruction.
So, I'm telling you, the citizens of Israel, the struggle has not finished yet. We will still have to keep our guard and be strong and determined to
defend ourselves as long as it takes. It's true not only from -- with against Iran, but its army -- arms of terror, which we damaged in an
unprecedented way in Gaza, in Lebanon, in Syria, in Yemen, in Judea and Samaria's refugee camps.
We just eliminated death -- Sinwar with the heads of Hamas, basically most in all of them in that horrific massacre. We eliminated thousands of
terrorists and infrastructure of terror. We brought back all of our hostages from Gaza until the fight -- until the last of them.
Nobody has believed we would have done -- we would do it, I believed. They said, Prime Minister, we have to give up, do not go to Rafah, finish the
war. We bring back the hostages and we will take our victory when we go out of Gaza.
We went into Rafah, we went into Gaza against many opinions, and we brought back all the hostages until the last of them. Not only that, we bombed the
beepers and the terrorist, Nasrallah, we prevented the Marwan force to the -- entrance into Galilee and destroyed most of 150 missiles and rockets
Nasrallah built in order to destroy the cities of Israel.
Remember what they told us. We would have dozens of -- thousands of casualties in Be'er Sheva, Jerusalem, I did not accept that. We fight them
and we caught key of -- key posts like before range from which Hezbollah threatened the whole of Israel.
And we did another thing. We built deep in deep security zones in Gaza, Lebanon, Syria, when we destroyed all of Assad's army. And I'd like to
clarify, we will stay there in the security zone as long as it takes in order to protect our country.
Because after the 7th of October, I set up a very simple rule, we will not give the terrorist organization to threaten us and to prepare a massacre
near our cities. And today, the fighters of the IDF are there protecting our citizens from the terrorists, and we will change -- we have changed all
of the apparatus of security.
We are initiating -- we are fighting, and we are destroying those who seek to destroy us. Israel is stronger than ever, and Iran's axis of evil is
weaker than ever. And if somebody would have told you in the beginning of the war that we have achieved all of what we've -- what I've just said, you
would have said, he's dreaming.
No, we did it. And today, after we've achieved all of that, those -- there are those who want to belittle it and cancel these achievements. And I'm
telling you, we are about to achieve many more great things and to eliminate threats.
And we built new agreements in the area, in the region and outside of it. I gave 350 billion shekels to the security budget. We developed technology
that is -- that are going to break the limits of imagination because our strength is the key to our future, to our economy, to our security, to our
agreements.
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Because agreements you do with the strongest. And Israel is a very strong state. And it is strong -- it is strong because of you citizens of Israel.
I'd like to thank you for your determination and backup that you gave to the government, and to me as the Prime Minister.
And above all, I'd like to thank our fighters, our heroes both in reserve and in regular service in the sea and on land and in the air. There's no
one like you heroes of Israel. Together, we will continue to stand and to win.
Do not be afraid, Jacob. With the help of God, we will secure the eternity of Israel.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE (through translator): And you say to the President who likes us, can you say no to him? And will you attack Lebanon independently?
NETANYAHU: President Trump and I know each other for a long time and he's the President of the U.S., I am the Prime Minister of Israel. Many times,
we see eye-to-eye, and sometimes we see less. And I'm responsible for the interest of Israel, and to do it with wisdom, many experience, great
experience, and to know the American front, and I know, and I know that I'm doing it as best I can.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE (through translator): Means the war, and is the next round with Iran in just a matter of time. I think what we see today in the
resurrection war on the 7th of October, you cannot compare it to what we look to our force today. We broke the axis, the Iranian axis. Hezbollah is
a shadow of what it was before. There is something --
SOARES: You have been listening there to Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, the first time we are hearing from him, following in -- following on from
this deal, tentative deal between -- or tentative agreement, I should say, between the United States and Iran.
We are going to continue to monitor Prime Minister Netanyahu. There are some audio issues, I'm sure you could hear, we're going to try and fix that
and get really clear audio before we bring you any more of that.
But let me give you a sense of what we heard from the Prime Minister, said, with or without a deal, Iran will not have a nuclear weapon. He then talked
about what they have achieved so far in their fight against Iran, saying that they they're crushed.
Israel crushed their nuclear infrastructure, damaged dozens of their infrastructure. We did billions and millions of dollars of damage that will
take dozens, he said, of years to build. Talking about Iran. We save the state of Israel from clear and present nuclear danger.
Went on to say that Iran will not have -- that Iran was working, would have an atomic bomb if they hadn't intercepted. He did say, we'll have to keep
our guard several times. And he talked about how Iran's arms of terror was being damaged across the Middle East.
He was asked a question then, as you heard, regarding his relationship with President Trump. Of course, he said, "sometimes we see eye-to-eye,
sometimes we see less." But he did clarify a message, obviously, to the domestic audience, said, we have saved Israel from annihilation, but our
struggle is not over.
As he spoke there in Hebrew to the nation. Let's bring in our Jeremy Diamond in Tel Aviv, Alayna Treene is in Geneva. Let me go first to Jeremy
Diamond who is listening in. Jeremy, what did you take away from that?
JEREMY DIAMOND, CNN JERUSALEM CORRESPONDENT: Well, the main thing that you need to know about the Prime Minister's remarks there is the context in
which they're happening here in Israel. And that is that, for the last, you know, 24 hours or so, since this deal, you know, tentative deal came to
completion between the United States and Iran.
The Prime Minister has been facing withering criticism from just about every single side of the political spectrum, except for, you know, his most
sycophantic allies.
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The Prime Minister has been criticized from the right. He has been criticized from the left for a deal that many Israelis fear leaves Israel's
core interests aside, and one over which the Israeli Prime Minister ultimately had almost no influence or no ability to influence its outcome
at all.
The Prime Minister responded to that criticism effectively by saying that people are trying to belittle the accomplishments of Israel's and the
United States war against Iran.
He claimed that Israel has removed the immediate threat of annihilation from us, although again, we have not heard of, you know, any kind of
evidence that Iran was indeed as close to a nuclear weapon as the Israeli Prime Minister has before and once again did tonight, again suggests.
What was interesting is that in his opening remarks, the Prime Minister didn't once mention the new deal between the United States and Iran. He
didn't once mention President Trump by name. It was only when he was asked about President Trump that the Prime Minister responded by saying that
President Trump is responsible for America's interests, and he is responsible for Israel's interests.
And he vowed to continue to stand up for Israel's interests. He also made clear that Israel is going to remain in the kind of security strips inside
the various territories where Israel is occupying. I think that refers to Gaza, to Lebanon, as well as to Syria.
And so, there's no clear change in posture specifically as it relates to Lebanon, at least from the Prime Minister's remarks so far. I think his
main intention here is to try and push back against the criticism that he is facing domestically.
And again, this is kind of what we are going to have to hear from him over the next three-plus months until election day as the Prime Minister tries
to make the case that despite all of the criticism, Israel has in fact achieved many of its strategic objectives, not just with regards to Iran,
but in the region at large. That at least will be the case that the Prime Minister is making.
SOARES: Yes, indeed, and we did hear him say we will remain in the security zones as long as is needed. Let me go to Alayna Treene in Geneva. So,
Alayna, I mean, it's -- do we know? Is it clear from your side whether that the element of Hezbollah is part of this?
Because this has been a major sticking point, isn't it? Between Israel and Iran. And this speaks to some of the big gaps, it seems, in what relates to
this Memorandum of Understanding. Just shed some light on this.
ALAYNA TREENE, CNN WHITE HOUSE CORRESPONDENT: No, absolutely. I mean, I think you've heard from the Iranians on this front that they believe that
Lebanon and specifically a ceasefire between Israel and Lebanon is going to be part of this agreement.
Clearly, we saw that threatened yesterday, just hours really in the hours before this agreement was signed by President Donald Trump, the Vice
President, J.D. Vance and Iran's parliamentary Speaker Mohammad Ghalibaf.
In moments before that memorandum between them was under -- was signed, that Memorandum of Understanding, you saw Israel attacking in southern
Lebanon. So, I think a lot of questions about this. I'd also remind you that we have heard from our sources.
We heard the President tell reporters in public interviews just how frustrated he has been with Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu's
continued insistence on wanting to keep, you know, to not withdraw forces from Lebanon and keep the pressure on Hezbollah, specifically in Beirut and
southern Lebanon more broadly.
So, we'll have to see whether or not this is a threat. I think that's a key question, and one that really, we have not heard the President or other
leaders who have been very public today in trying to tout this agreement between Washington and Tehran.
They've really been careful not to delve too deep into the Israel issue, even as we know that, the President of the United States, Donald Trump,
believes that if he tells Netanyahu to back off, he expects him to.
Not really clear and definitely not what we heard from Netanyahu in that statement just there, but not really clear if that's actually what is going
to play out here. So, I think this does leave a very fragile part of this broader agreement in question.
And I think there's no doubt about that. To talk about the agreement more broadly, Isa, though, look, I think the President clearly wanted to head
into the G7 Summit here in Europe with an Iranian agreement to town, an Iranian victory to tout as he meets face-to-face with many of the European
leaders that he's lashed out at, for what he argued was not assisting the United States in the war, and specifically in intervening on the Strait of
Hormuz.
But there are so many questions now about what this is going to look like moving forward. Already, as you mentioned, we are hearing contradictory
statements. If you listen to U.S. officials, they say that this agreement is really about dismantling Iran's nuclear programing, nuclear program
including going in to retrieve the highly-enriched uranium that Iran has in its possession as well as destroying it on site.
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You know, reopening the Strait, questions about when that is actually going to be. You heard the President, President Donald Trump, argued today that,
that will be on Friday. Others saying, it's already begun, it might take a few weeks to really see that action.
So, a lot of questions here. And I think the big one as well is, what does this actual text look like? And I think that gets back to this Israel
question. What is in this text? Trump said he believes the text would be released after Friday's ceremony -- signing ceremony here in Geneva.
But other U.S. officials have told us that it could be the next 24 to 48 hours we see it. So, that's something as well that we know a lot of people
on the ground here in Europe and globally are really looking for, Isa.
SOARES: Alayna Treene there. And Jeremy Diamond with the very latest we heard, of course, from Prime Minister Netanyahu. He is -- he touts his
military successes in Iran. Our thanks to both of them. Well, as leaders at the G7 gathering with Iran in focus, as Alayna Treene was telling you
there.
Ukraine is also on the agenda. President Volodymyr Zelenskyy is set to attend, and he plans to push for more air defenses from his allies. And
this comes a bit more strikes, as you've seen from Russia, including in the capital Kyiv, where historic UNESCO-listed monetary -- monastery caught
fire there after a major attack as you can see overnight, at least, five people were killed.
Russia says it was targeting Ukraine's defense industrial complex, and for the first time, U.K. has led an operation to intercept an oil tanker linked
to Russia's Shadow fleet. Officials say the ship was seized by British marines and law enforcement while it tried to pass through the English
Channel.
Well, Moldova is strongly condemning the strike on the monastery, as we showed you, and this all comes as the first phase of talks begin for
Ukraine and Moldova to join the EU. So, let's get into it. All of this with Mihai Popsoi; Moldova's deputy Prime Minister and Foreign Minister. Deputy
Prime Minister, welcome to the show.
MIHAI POPSOI, DEPUTY PRIME MINISTER, MOLDOVA: Good evening, it's my pleasure.
SOARES: Welcome, very good to have you with us. Let me start first of all with this horrific attack that we have seen there on Ukraine. I think you
describe the strike on the Dormition theater as barbaric.
This, of course, is not just a historic landmark. Is one of Christianity's most important sites according to President Zelenskyy. Do you believe that
Russia deliberately targeted this as a symbol of Ukrainian identity and culture?
POPSOI: Well, certainly, this is not the first time that world heritage sites, including religious institutions have been targeted. And it's
incredibly cynical and truly barbaric that such important sites for Christianity as a whole, particularly for our part of the world, have been
attacked.
This is incredibly sad, and of course, we have condemned it with full force. And we count on the international community to call the aggressor to
account.
SOARES: Yes, and look, and then, as you heard us there mentioning, deputy Prime Minister, this comes as G7 leaders are gathering in Evian in France.
Do you see then the timing as deliberate? Is Russia trying to send a message to the west? And if so, what is that message?
POPSOI: Well, we've clearly seen lately a level of escalation that we haven't seen for a while, and it is likely as a result of Ukraine being
more and more successful in defending itself and defending its people and its territory.
And the more successful Ukraine is, the more cornered, perhaps the Kremlin may feel and the level of escalation increases. But it's up to the
international community to stand up for international law, to stand up for human rights, to stand up for religious freedom and world heritage sites
like the Kyiv-Pechersk Lavra that was attacked this morning regretfully.
SOARES: You say, cornered. Do you think Kremlin's called enough to take a deal? Because President Trump said today as he was reaching as -- in Evian
in France at the G7, now that he said -- now that the deal with Iran is done, he said he's having good conversations with Zelenskyy and Putin.
Does that suggest to you that Putin is willing, do you think, and can be taken seriously to come to the negotiating table?
POPSOI: Well, we know for a fact that nobody wants peace more than the Ukrainians. They've suffered enough, but also, they've showed incredible
heart and incredible courage. And of course, we're seeing what is happening in the Russian society as well.
The economic situation and the political pressures. So, I think it's safe to say that the time has come for a reasonable solution that takes into
account international law, and one that is sustainable, that is lasting, and that is just.
SOARES: And of course, viewers will know Moldova shares a border with you - - with Ukraine, and you have lived under the shadow of war for years. Can you -- can you -- I mean, how concerned are you that the conflict could
become even more destabilizing for the region?
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I know that you've repeatedly warned about Russian interference. Speak to just how much you have had to change the way your government, of course, is
handling the war.
POPSOI: Well, first and foremost, we've been the country most affected by the war, other than Ukraine itself, of course. And we've welcomed the
largest number of refugees per capita. This has earned us the international reputation of being a small country with a big heart.
And we are proud of the response of the Moldovans, who have opened their hearts and their homes to Ukrainians. And we've stood by Ukraine throughout
these years, by the same token, of course, we hope that this conflict comes to an end in a way that is sustainable, that is just and that is lasting.
We have also been on the receiving end on -- of Russian hybrid tactics employed in Moldova to try to divide Moldovan society, including to build a
wedge between Moldovan and Ukrainian refugees, but they have not been successful.
They've tried to exploit all sorts of challenges that exist. But Moldovans have remained united in their craving to be part of the European family of
nations, and to stand by what is right. And that is by peace and by international law.
And we work hard to make sure that we maintain peace in the Republic of Moldova. And Moldovan society has been united behind or craving to be --
SOARES: Yes --
POPSOI: Part of the European Union, which is a project of peace and cooperation.
SOARES: Let me ask you about that, because, of course, this week is highly symbolic, it's a highly symbolic week for Moldova because EU member-states
agreed to open the first accession negotiations, kind of clustered with Moldova and Ukraine. Just how significant is this moment for Moldova?
POPSOI: It is an incredibly important milestone for us. We have been working hard to achieve this point, and we'll continue to work hard and
engage restlessly until we see Moldova put under the banner of the European Union where it belongs.
And of course, Moldovans can rejoice at this milestone, but a lot of hard work is ahead to make sure that we deliver on the promise to all citizens
to bring Moldova into the European family of nations. But today is indeed a moment when we look back at the work that has been done under very
difficult circumstances.
But again, the Moldovan society, the Moldovan institutions have proven that we can deliver even under the most difficult circumstances. This is evident
in the European enlargement report from last year, where Moldova is put as an example of progress and achievement when it comes to meeting the
European benchmarks.
SOARES: Yes, deputy Prime Minister, thank you very much for coming on the show. Mihai Popsoi there live from Moldova. And still to come tonight, no
one expected it to be like this. A shocker at the World Cup as a tiny nation gives the favorites from Spain all they can handle. The latest on
Cape Verde versus Spain.
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SOARES: Well, on paper, the first match of the day at the World Cup looked like a blowout. Spain, one of the major favorites, of course, in the
tournament, taking on tiny Cape Verde, an island nation making its first ever appearance. But in a truly shocking result, Cape Verde held off the
Spanish attack again and again, managing a nil-nil tie. Spain controlled possession throughout, but just could not get the ball into the back of the
net, which is the most important part.
Spain brought in teen superstar Lamine Yamal for the final 20 minutes of the match. There he is. Despite him battling injury, he had a couple
moments of excitement, but could not help his squad get the goal they needed.
World Sports, Patrick Snell, is at the Fan Zone in Atlanta and joins us now. So, Patrick, give us a sense. I mean, there are a lot of people here
who should be working or watching the football with their eyes on that match. That was quite something.
PATRICK SNELL, CNN WORLD SPORT: Well, I hope they are still working while enjoying the game. But look, it's just incredible scenes here. In the Fan
Zone here, the match ending just a few short minutes ago. There's still hundreds and hundreds of fans here who've been watching the game, literally
watching the game in front of the massive big screen here.
But history in the making. It's been the most incredible performance from Cape Verde. No one really gave them a chance, I will say, against the
reigning European champions. Spain, La Roja, the world champions from 2010. That's 16 years ago when they triumphed in South Africa.
But I will say, Cape Verde were well worth a point. They were well worth a draw, in my opinion. They gave it absolutely everything. Ahead of the
tournament, I spoke with their head coach, Bubista, and he told me, look, we're not just here to make up the numbers. Well, boy, what a statement
from his players today, who really gave every last sweat and drop of energy. Everything they did for him.
And I want to give a massive shout out to Cape Verde's 40-year-old goalkeeper, Vozinha, who plays in the second tier of Portuguese football.
He made a total of seven saves, including a whole string of them, just before the halftime break, when Spain looked as though they were going to
go on and at least score one. Ferran Torres should have hit the -- should have scored from about eight yards out. He hit the woodwork just before the
break. And then he was denied again by Vozinha.
And you could just tell how frustrated Spain were getting as every single attack they made, they were thwarted by the lion-hearted attitude of Cape
Verde, a population of only half a million people playing in their first ever World Cup, I can tell you.
And at the full-time whistle, there was a whole cluster of fans in blue. The fans were the Blue Sharks, right there in that far right-hand corner. A
jig of joy when the final whistle went. This is their World Cup final, no question about it. This is beyond their wildest of dreams. And to show how
desperate Spain actually got at one point, with 20 minutes to go, they threw on Team Finam (ph), Lamine Yamal, the Barcelona player who got
injured in April. He suffered a hamstring injury.
Spain, I have no doubt, they were not intending to play him in any way, shape, or form in this match. But with 20 to go, they threw him on because
they were so desperate to try and get a result, i.e., get the win. Everyone expected them to get the win, but there was just nothing doing.
And the emotion, you could tell at the full-time whistle, the emotion on Cape Verde players' faces, fighting back tears, many of them. It was a joy
to behold. They're up and running with a point. And I tell you what, this is just going to fuel them with even more confidence. It was a joy to be a
part of.
I wasn't inside the stadium, but I got the next best thing right here in the Fan Zone with, 10 -- well, probably 2,000 to 3,000 fans at one point
right here, if not more. I can tell you also the Spanish fans that were here en masse in red, La Roja, they have made a very quick departure from
this part of Centennial Olympic Park here in downtown Atlanta. Extraordinary day.
SOARES: Extraordinary. They just weren't phased at all, were they, Cape Verde? I'm seeing lots of blue jerseys still dancing behind you, Patrick.
That is a very good sign. They're very happy indeed. Patrick, thank you very much indeed. Of course, Iran take on -- play their first match in this
World Cup. They're taking on New Zealand a bit later, and I think it's in L.A.
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Well, the U.S. and Iran reach a tentative agreement to end the conflict. Still coming on this show right here, can President Trump get Benjamin
Netanyahu to stop strikes on Lebanon? We'll discuss that next.
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SOARES: Welcome back, everyone. We have some breaking news to bring to your attention. California's governor is accusing the Trump Justice Department
of opening a baseless investigation against him. Let me read out what Gavin Newsom just posted on X just a short time ago.
And I'm going to read it in full because I think it's important. Today, my wife and I joined Donald Trump's hit list. He has directed his Department
of Justice to investigate us. They have not found a crime. They are simply trying to find one. He isn't coming after me because of mean tweets, but
because I'm considering running for president. He hates that I consistently call him out. He is simply the most corrupt president in American history.
We have nothing to hide. Mr. President, come after me. I am not going anywhere. The country is watching me.
As you see there, that post from Gavin Newsom, California's governor, will have much more on this breaking news in the next few moments. But this is
just coming in to us. We'll try and get reaction to this and some context on this as well. The last few moments, California's governor accusing the
Trump Justice Department of opening what he calls a baseless investigation against him.
I do want to return to our top story this hour, a story we've been on now for many, many weeks, President Trump touching down in the last few hours
in Switzerland for the G7 summit as the U.S. and Iran say they have reached an agreement to end their months-long conflict. And that agreement will
apparently be signed this coming Friday, bringing with it the immediate end of U.S. blockade of Iranian ports and, crucially, the reopening of the
Strait of Hormuz.
However, there is still a lot we do not know. Tehran says there will be a 60-day negotiation period during which time the U.S. must meet certain
commitments, the details of which are still to be ironed out.
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But the most crucial issue of all so far is Lebanon. Iran says the agreement includes an end to conflict there, but Israel says it won't
withdraw from southern Lebanon. Even the last, what, 20 minutes or so, we heard Prime Minister Netanyahu just saying, as we brought his live speech
to the country, saying that Israel will remain in security zones as long as is needed.
This, of course, is President Trump's relationship with Benjamin Netanyahu seems more fractured than ever. So, a lot for us to get through. I want to
bring in Ian Bremmer, president and founder of GZERO Media and the Eurasia Group.
Ian, great to see you, great to have you on the show. Look, I think we are light on details. No-one's actually seen what's in this memorandum of
understanding. We expect the signing on Friday. How do you see this? Is this a genuine diplomatic breakthrough or just simply a pause in a conflict
that neither side really can afford to continue here?
IAN BREMMER, FOUNDER, GZERO MEDIA: Well, why haven't we seen the details when the Iranians are leaking all sorts of things and we don't exactly
trust what they're saying? And presumably it's because Trump is worried about the way the deal is going to appear, that too much is being given to
the Iranians and that the Americans essentially are not achieving their war goals.
So, that's the most likely reason that we haven't actually seen the details on the memorandum of understanding. I assure you that if this were a grand
slam from Trump and his advisors' perspectives, they'd be sending it out everywhere.
Is it a deal? It's a big deal in the sense that everyone that you are broadcasting to is affected by the Strait being closed. Inflation is up,
gas prices are up, we've got food challenges with fertilizer having missed the growing season. So, it is legitimately good news that we are likely to
get the Strait reopened and assuming that happens on Friday, within a month's time, give or take, you should have about 50 percent of the
shipping that was going through the Strait before the war actually going through again. Everyone should be happy about that.
But none of the other war goals, and by the way, the war goals didn't include reopening the Strait because it was open at the time. All the
things that Trump wanted to accomplish he hasn't actually accomplished. And so, from that perspective, this is very far from a win.
SOARES: Yes, and important to point out, and I'm glad you did and keep reiterating, the Strait of Hormuz wasn't a problem to start off with,
right? This is something that President Trump and indeed Israel started. Let me ask, and obviously on the question of the details, President Trump
saying next to when he was speaking to Macron, President Macron basically saying in the next few days we'll get some sort of text but not revealing
any more.
But this is what we're hearing because Iran says, Ian, that the 60-day nuclear talks will only begin once the U.S. releases billions of dollars in
frozen funds. Washington appears to be rejecting that, that kind of sequencing thing. How do you -- I mean, is this a negotiating tactic or do
you think this could become like a major sticking point here that derails the whole thing as we get closer to Friday?
BREMMER: No. No, I don't think it's a sticking point. They've both agreed and they've signed electronically this MOU. I think that it is a matter of
presentation. The Iranians are not prepared to reopen the Strait without having assets unfrozen. They've got a lot of money that has been frozen in
countries like Qatar and the UAE.
My understanding from talking to the Trump administration is that if the Qataris and the UAE happens to unfreeze some of the Iranian assets, that is
separate from this negotiation. It's a coincidence, but it's not the United States, which is a very cute way of saying that the Iranians are getting
their money, the Americans are facilitating it, but the Americans do not want to take direct responsibility for that because, of course, President
Trump has criticized heavily the Obama administration for unfreezing Iran's assets for doing a lot more than what the Iranians are doing right now.
SOARES: There is -- oh, there's so many. Let me go to Hezbollah, the question of Hezbollah, because that's also potentially a sticking point,
one of the biggest risks until Friday, of course. I'm not sure whether you were able to hear Prime Minister Netanyahu speaking, addressing the nation
in Hebrew earlier. He talked about basically what they've been able to achieve. He said that they have damaged dozens of infrastructure when it
comes to Iran, said we saved the state of Israel from clear and present nuclear danger. He basically touting Israel's military successes when it
comes to Iran. He did say that they will remain in security zones as long as is needed.
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What is not clear is where Hezbollah stands in all of this, because Iran and Pakistan, who of course viewers will know as a mediator, say that
Lebanon's part of this understanding, but Israel's defense minister indicates forces will not be withdrawing from southern Lebanon. Where does
this leave things?
BREMMER: So, here's your problem. The United States and Iran, facilitated by Pakistan and Qatar, have signed this memorandum of understanding. The
MOU includes an end to the fighting in Lebanon, except Hezbollah and Israel are not signatories to the agreement.
Now, in the case of Hezbollah, Iran funds them and Iran also has some direct operational control over the military actions that Hezbollah takes
against Israel. So, if the Iranians are signatories, in principle, they can prevent Hezbollah from striking Israel. That stabilizes the agreement.
Now, Israel is a major ally of the United States, receives intelligence, is defended by the US, receives military funding and equipment. In principle,
the United States can tell the Israelis, we don't want you to engage in any further strikes against Lebanon.
But we've already seen that Israeli Prime Minister Netanyahu is not only a sovereign leader of an independent country, but also is frequently prepared
to do things at the margins, sometimes more than the margins, that President Trump frankly doesn't like and doesn't agree with.
So, you are correct that the likelihood that we end up with some fighting, at least border skirmishes between Israel and Lebanon that in principle
could breach the terms of the MOU, is very real. And Netanyahu right now is under a lot of pressure. His popularity is low, certainly a lot lower in
Israel than Trump's is. And he is losing, he's hemorrhaging support of Israelis that are Likud supporters that live in the north of Israel because
they are the ones that are directly getting hit by these Hezbollah rockets.
SOARES: And his message today, we have saved Israel from annihilation, but our struggle is not over. This was from Netanyahu -- Prime Minister
Netanyahu in the last, what, 15, 20 minutes. As always, Ian, great to get your insight, really excellent analysis. Ian Bremner there from New York.
And still to come on the show tonight, it's one thing to announce a ban on social media for children and 16, but quite another to actually enforce it.
We'll look at Britain's sweeping new attempt to protect children from online harm.
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SOARES: Well, we've all seen it, children bent over their phones, endlessly scrolling, eyes intently locked on the screen while the world goes on
around them. Well, today, Britain's Prime Minister announced new sweeping regulations that he says will make children happier and more secure and
give them more time and freedom, he says, to grow up. Keir Starmer says his government will ban social media sites for children under 16, and that
includes Snapchat, TikTok, YouTube, Instagram, X, and Facebook.
But that's not all. Britain also wants to restrict gaming and live- streaming sites that allow strangers to contact children. If passed by Parliament, the new regulations could take effect next spring. Some
students are pushing back against a blanket ban, though. Have a listen.
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UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I think it should be banned, but I think it should be, like, limited. Like, I think you should just have a certain amount of time
and then you should be, like, you should go outside, possibly, and just maybe talk to your family, cos I think that's the best thing to do.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: What was your screen time over the weekend?
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Nine hours.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Nine hours. So, suddenly, you're going to have a lot more time to fill. And what will you do?
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Stare at a wall.
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SOARES: She will just stare at the wall. We'll stay on top of this story for you.
Well, E.U. tech chief Henna Virkkunen says Europe does not pose a security risk to the United States. That's after Anthropic blocked access to two of
its most powerful clawed AI models globally. Last week, the U.S. government told the companies to suspend access for foreign nationals due to national
security concerns. Virkkunen is urging Europe to move to reduce the continent's dependence on foreign tech.
The E.U. relies on outside providers for over 80 percent of its digital infrastructure, products, services, as well as intellectual property.
Senior Anthropic staffers are reportedly set to meet with Trump administration officials Monday to try and resolve the dispute.
We're going to take a short break, but, of course, we'll see you on the other side.
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SOARES: While thousands have been taking to the streets of Tehran, Albania, as protests there enter a third week.
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These pictures you're looking at are from Sunday. Albania isn't for sale. That is the message from protesters that we have shown you pretty much on
the show day after day, showing up outside the office of the country's prime minister, Edi Rama. Demonstrators are also calling for his
resignation. But so far, Rama isn't budging.
Demonstrations began, if you remember, in late May over a proposed luxury resort that is linked to U.S. President Donald Trump's daughter, as well as
his son-in-law, Ivanka Trump, and Jared Kushner. The protests have been dubbed the Flamingo Revolution because of fears the bird's habitat could be
at risk if this project goes ahead. But what started, of course, protests as a Trump-linked real estate project over environmental and sovereignty
concerns have turned into anti-government -- widespread anti-government demonstrations.
And finally, for you tonight, a quick reminder of breaking news from the last few moments. California Governor Gavin Newsom says he's under
investigation by the Trump Justice Department because he is running for president. Newsom says they have not found a crime. They are trying to find
one. We'll have much more on this story as we get it.
Thank you very much for your company. A very busy hour here on the show. Do stay right here. "What We Know" with my colleague Max Foster is up next. I
shall see you tomorrow. Bye-bye.
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