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CNN Larry King Live

Show and Tell With Jack Hanna

Aired May 08, 2001 - 21:00   ET


PAT SAJAK, GUEST HOST: Tonight, it's the call of the wild. We've got rare and remarkable animals from around the world, courtesy of famed naturalist and adventurer Jack Hanna. He'll show and tell, and take your calls, with his friends, next on LARRY KING LIVE.

Hi, everybody. Pat Sajak in for Larry King. There is a cheetah on my desk. Something I never thought I'd say on television. Hi, Jack. How are you.


SAJAK: Jack Hanna, director emeritus of Columbus Zoo, and we all know what "emeritus" means.

HANNA: Well, just put out to pasture.

SAJAK: Tell us about you friend here.

HANNA: Well, this is the cheetah. And on our "Animal Adventures" show, we just got through filming the cheetah in Africa. This is the fastest animal, Pat. You can put your thumb in his mouth.

SAJAK: No, you can put your thumb in his mouth.

HANNA: Go ahead, just go like this. Go like this.

SAJAK: Hi. Come here. How are you?

HANNA: Give him a piece of meat.

SAJAK: Here you go. Hi, oh, good. Oh, ah.


SAJAK: That's rather pleasant.

HANNA: Feel how rough the tongue is. Actually, the cheetah's tongue is so rough that, like an African lion, they could lick your arm and lick it raw within an hour. It's like sandpaper.

SAJAK: So, what kind of speed will this...

HANNA: About 70 to 75 miles per hour. This is what we call -- in the species survival plan, a lot of the zoos have this animal on a plan because it's so endangered, that we're now breeding this. Zoos are cooperating with each other, and the AZA, American Zoo Association, this is like their animal that represents a lot of endangered species.

SAJAK: And how old is this?

HANNA: This is about 8 months old, and again, notice the tail, how long the tail is. When that animal is going 70 miles an hour, we have seen them filming, they can move that tail like a rudder, like a sailboat, and it guides the animal. When he hits his prey, he actually stuns the prey, like an antelope, and then he'll grab the esophagus right here and chokes -- breaks the esophagus. Every cat has a different killing ability.

SAJAK: Now, is he getting ready to do anything that I should know about?

HANNA: No, no, no. You can see from the beautiful long legs. Isn't that gorgeous? The long legs allows him those speeds.

SAJAK: Now, this is wild animal, obviously.

HANNA: Right.

SAJAK: Now, what is to stop this animal from say, turning right now, and say, eating my throat. Why is he -- seriously, why is he...

HANNA: Because this animal was raised from a youngster at the Columbus Zoo in Ohio, and a lot of times, we raise these animals from babies because when you work with an endangered animal, they have youngsters. A lot of times, a cheetah won't take care of the babies, so you go in sometimes, take the baby, actually nurse it back to health, and a week or so, put it back with the mother.

With a real wild animal, you would never do that obviously.

SAJAK: But the instincts are still there.

HANNA: Oh, yes. You know, a wild animal is like a loaded gun, we tell people. It can go off at any time, and so you never want to -- obviously, it's against the law to raise cheetahs anyway. But this animal was also domesticated by the Egyptians many, many years ago. Look at the face. We can turn him around here.

The face here, if you look at the eyes, it has -- I don't think you can see the eyes from around there. You see the dark marks underneath the cheetah's eyes? The cheetah can look in direct sunlight, like a football player, and that way, he hunts in direct sunlight. This animal hunts in daylight.

A lot of cats, like leopards, hunt at nighttime, like tigers. This animal hunts in daylight, and when they get those speeds, usually two or three will make a kill. If they don't make that kill, they have to wait two or three days to gain their strength back to try to make another kill. Plus, one last thing, the foot of a cheetah is like a dog's foot. Watch this. Their claws are like -- see there, how the claws stick out. Most cats have feet, obviously, with retractable claws. The cheetah's foot is like a dog's foot. So when we're tracking the cheetah, you can see, when we're tracking the cheetah, it sometimes looks just like we're tracking a dog, but it's really the cheetah we're looking for.

SAJAK: Wow, and then...

HANNA: Almost hunted to extinction, by the way, for its coat and loss of habitat.

SAJAK: And where will you find these?

HANNA: All in Africa. Namibia, they're coming back there. The king cheetah, the largest cheetah in the world, is in toward South Africa, but they're an animal that I think really represents -- you feel how coarse they are, too. Feel that fur.

SAJAK: You don't mind, do you?

HANNA: Do you hear the purring, by the way?

SAJAK: You can purr into my microphone.

HANNA: Get your neck a little closer.

SAJAK: Hi, I'm just moving slowly, you see.

HANNA: Hear that? Let me see if they hear this.


HANNA: Isn't that amazing?


HANNA: Sounds like a motorboat.

SAJAK: Is that telling us anything?

HANNA: Just that he's probably ready to go. Thank you so much.

SAJAK: There you go.

HANNA: There you go. And he can leap, too: 33 feet in one leap when he's running.

SAJAK: You mentioned the show, which is "Jack Hanna's Animal Adventures." How long have you been doing that?

HANNA: It's nine years now. It's my ninth year.

HANNA: Oh, this is a beautiful bird here.

SAJAK: This creature, this...

HANNA: This is Ed Clark's, the Virginia Wildlife Center, and he has the largest rehab center in the entire United States, where they take birds, Pat, and other North American animals and rehab them after they've been injured. This animal has -- you can see the wing here, how it's gone.


HANNA: Now, actually, this animal hit a power line.

SAJAK: So, we know what happened to him. That's how he...

HANNA: Exactly, and that's one of the biggest injuries for the bald eagle today, as well as the golden eagles, hitting these power lines.

SAJAK: Now, obviously, this not a bald bird, but called -- the white hair is we have it.

HANNA: White feathers.

SAJAK: White feathers, pardon me. Did I say hair? You're the naturalist. I'm the host.

HANNA: What he's doing now, he's not upset. He's -- baiting is we call this right now. This bird, if it hadn't been for Ed and his organization, obviously, this bird would be dead right now.

SAJAK: In numbers, what do we know about them?

HANNA: Well, the bald eagle now, as you know, was taken off the endangered species list last year. So it's coming back very, very well. There are a lot of them.

SAJAK: What does it mean when an animal is removed? What -- I mean, you're not going to get bald eagle burgers anywhere. What happens?

HANNA: Right, what happens is that animal was protected in a lot of places. When it's taken off the endangered species list, it means then it's on the protected species list. In other words, you still can't hunt the bald eagle by any means, but it means the numbers are coming back so great that it's taken off the endangered species list because after endangered, you have extinction. That means they're gone forever,

But can you imagine -- like the American alligator we'll see here in a little bit, that animal has come back very well. The bald eagle, though, even thought it's off, I'm still concerned about the bird because you still have a lot of pesticides, you have a lot of injuries to these animals, habitat loss. But in Alaska, we filmed there, we see birds by the -- well, the hundreds and sometimes the thousands.

SAJAK: It must be a glorious sight.

HANNA: Look at this bird. I mean, the turkey was almost our national emblem, and...

SAJAK: I think we made a better choice, a much better coin right there.

HANNA: Exactly. Look at those talons. I would let you hold this bird, but those talons on Ed's arm there would go right through you in a split-second.

SAJAK: Wow, and they will hunt and eat what?

HANNA: Exactly, this animal can actually, they say, if it could read a newspapers, it could read it at the end of 100 yards of football field. That's when they're soaring, they can actually see the live prey, rabbits, whatever it might be, and they soar down at about -- who knows? Seventy, 80 miles an hour, and they grab their prey with their talons, usually killing them with that. If not, they obviously have that beak that rips and tears the meat apart. But their eyesight is what they rely on. Incredible eyesight, incredible wingspan, of course...

SAJAK: You mean that he could spot the newspaper. He wouldn't actually read the newspaper.

HANNA: No, exactly.


SAJAK: Again, for the non-naturalists out there.

HANNA: Yes, I keep forgetting that.

SAJAK: I want to clarify that.

HANNA: And this bird is also a bird that is monogamous. Usually, they mate for life.

SAJAK: Really, and a life for a bald eagle is what?

HANNA: It's anywhere from -- what, about 40 years. So, that's pretty good. But I just think they're regal. I want to thank you, Ed. for bringing this.

SAJAK: Thank you, Ed, wow. There is one animal we didn't bring in tonight. We were going to do something...

HANNA: Well, we had a green mamba we were going to have. My daughter, Julie, was almost killed by a green mamba several years ago in Africa.

SAJAK: So you thought, I'll bring one in to show Pat.

HANNA: That's what I thought, but when I practiced with it a while ago. It just didn't work very well.

SAJAK: It's a snake.

HANNA: Right, but if we have -- if we run out of time and we have to need more animals, I will bring him in, the last one.

SAJAK: Let's take our time with the next animal. What do we have here, Jack?

HANNA: That is a black-footed penguin, and people love penguins. I don't know what it is about black and white animals. This is the penguin. It has more feathers per square inch than any bird in the world, and the people that do the greatest job are at Sea World -- Sea World Florida, California.

SAJAK: I've been to their exhibit down there, the Arctic. It's terrific.

HANNA: And they breed more species of Penguin than anybody in the world. Now, this is a black-footed, warm weather penguin. Now, what you may not know -- touch him.

SAJAK: So, it is -- so penguins are warm weather.

HANNA: Exactly, because if this bird got out below 50 degrees, he would die. See, there are 17 species penguin, and all of them warm weather except for five, and all those live in the Antarctic. And this bird, here, also, is a bird that will lay its eggs, the female will -- and you want to feed him. Do you want to feed him?

SAJAK: The bird -- I'll be happy to. I've never actually fed a penguin before. Actually, I have fed a penguin. Head first, I'm sorry. I have forgotten, you have certain rules.

HANNA: You want me to open his beak for him?

SAJAK: What kind of feeding is that? You have to open -- here, there you go.

HANNA: It's amazing how...

SAJAK: Push it in? Oh, my God.

HANNA: Just push it down in there.

SAJAK: I'm sorry. I'm afraid he will close this beak and then I'll be...

HANNA: Isn't that amazing?

SAJAK: Wow, so just -- down there.

HANNA: Now, what he would do, if he had babies right now, he would regurgitate that and feed the little chicks. But the female will lay the egg, and the male has to sit on that egg for like 35 to 40 days while she goes -- leaves him there. He loses like 50 percent of his body weight, the male does.

SAJAK: And swims well?

HANNA: Oh, about 20 miles per hour. They're very fast, and they're black and white for camouflage. So, when they're going through the water -- if we're filming them underwater, it's very difficult because you can't locate that white belly. Same thing on top, when the killer whales or something might be ready to eat this animal or another type of whale, they're hard to catch because they're hard to see.

SAJAK: What other predators does this bird...

HANNA: Sharks, whales that type of thing, and then, of course, man. But in the Antarctic, we see -- not this bird, but the penguins in general, tens of thousands of these birds on icecaps.

SAJAK: Absolutely amazing. Well, thanks for coming by. And actually, we have to take a break, Jack, because I have to wash the fish head parts off my hand. Back with more Jack Hanna and his friends, and some great ones coming up. Stay with us.


SAJAK: Back with Jack Hanna here on LARRY KING LIVE. Pat Sajak sitting in for Larry tonight with lots of friends. That looks to me like a clouded leopard, Jack.

HANNA: That's what it is, a clouded leopard, one of the rarest cats in the world, Pat. This animal here, we don't even know how many are left in the wild. There might be 300, there might be 100. I bet there's not five people in the world that have ever even seen one of these in the wild.

SAJAK: Where would you see him if he were...

HANNA: In Burma, Sumatra, that part of the world. And they're nocturnal. they hunt at night. They're an animal that has -- if you saw his legs, we can't put him down right now, but he has very short legs. So they live 90 percent of their lives in trees. Ninety percent of their life is lived in trees.

SAJAK: Now, is that a young one?

HANNA: Yeah, this is about a year old. They have a very long tail that's -- not like the cheetah for speed, but his tail is used for balance in the treetops. It's one of the few cats in the world that eats monkeys and birds. They also have, and I don't think you can see this at home -- we'll see, here. I don't want him to bite me. They have the longest canine teeth...

SAJAK: Oh, my God.

HANNA: ... of any cat in the world. This one, you can imagine, this one here is not -- come here, turn your head. Come here, kitty- kitty. This one here is -- let me see if I can get that on the camera there, sorry.

SAJAK: Don't...

HANNA: There we go. That tooth can get to be 2 to 1 1/2 inches long when they're full grown. The clouded leopard, I'm sorry to say, we can turn around and show the coat there, John. The clouded leopard from Columbus, Ohio -- this is where the animal is being raised. This coat is valued at about $80,000 on the black market, so you can see why the animal hasn't had much of a chance. But they're magnificent creature.

SAJAK: So when you say you don't know how many there are, I mean, what are estimating?

HANNA: Well, we estimate because -- to take a picture of one of these would virtually be impossible, so we have to use trip cameras or infrared light cameras in a triple wire. That's how we get a picture of them, because no human could ever take a census of these animals. Those jungles are so thick, if I went there to film I'd be there for five years and never even see one.

SAJAK: Wow. Just beautiful.

HANNA: Thank you, John. That's a clouded leopard. Thank you very much.

SAJAK: Oh, my goodness. This one...

HANNA: You can take that over to Pat.

SAJAK: Yes, bring it over here. Yeah, bring the python to Pat.

HANNA: Hold his head, Jarod. Hold his head.


HANNA: You got his head? Good. Make sure you keep it away from him.

SAJAK: Yeah, keep the -- why are we holding the python's head away from me?

HANNA: Because the python has about 220 teeth. They're shaped like fishhooks...


SAJAK: Hold the head, please.

MILLER: I got him.

HANNA: Now, feel the power. Don't you feel the power?

SAJAK: Could this -- this snake could hurt me.

HANNA: This snake -- there was a man in Pittsburgh 2 1/2 years ago, had a pet python, about 19 feet long, and it killed him. Couldn't swallow him, but it killed him. Now, the reason I tell you that, I'm not saying that because, you know...

SAJAK: Could this snake swallow me? HANNA: No, you're too big.


HANNA: Not that you're fat or anything. You're just too big.

SAJAK: But it can't swallow any human.

HANNA: No, they could. When they're 25 or 30 feet, easily they could swallow a human. But the point is that people buy these snakes as pets sometimes, and if you -- if you're a dedicated herpetologist, you know what to do, that's fine. But if not, this snake could get to be bigger and bigger and bigger, and then you've got a problem on your hands.

SAJAK: So what -- is this -- what am I feeling here? Is it muscle all the way through? My gosh.

HANNA: Muscle, exactly. Can you feel around your neck? Can you feel that?

SAJAK: Yeah.

HANNA: The teeth there, what happens is that snake's 220 teeth shaped like fishhooks. When they do bite they cannot let go. So if that snake were to bite your hand or something, the best thing for you to do is sit there, because if you try and pull it you'll lose your hand. So what you do is you want to sit there, and about...

SAJAK: My children are watching, Jack.

HANNA: I'm sorry. You let your hand stay there and then the snake relaxes his teeth and you can remove it out of his mouth.

SAJAK: What a beautiful...

HANNA: They really are a neat animal. And feel this -- you feel it's cool. That means they're cold-blooded. In other words, they cannot regulate temperature like you and I do.

SAJAK: And not slimy, not...

HANNA: Thank you, yeah. See, people don't like snakes because they think they're slimy.

SAJAK: I like snakes, actually, as you can tell.

HANNA: Yeah, I can see that.


SAJAK: I'm much more comfortable around a snake than cat, frankly. There you go.

HANNA: But you feel the power of this thing.

SAJAK: And how big will they get?

HANNA: Anywhere from 25 to 30 feet. I actually seen them in Africa where they've actually tried to swallow an antelope.

SAJAK: And they will swallow -- will they in fact swallow something whole?

HANNA: Oh, yeah, it has to swallow it whole. They cannot chew.

SAJAK: And it will -- and they'll live off that for a good...

HANNA: Oh, yeah. A snake like that might not eat but once every three or four months, sometimes six months.

SAJAK: Now, what have we here?

HANNA: This is an animal here -- it's a beautiful animal. Come here, This is a palm civet, and the palm civet is an animal. Some people call it a civet cat, but it's not. It's in the mongoose family.

Come here. See, he's more comfortable here on your shoulder.

Jill, why don't you take him over to Pat? Put him on his shoulder. Now, the palm civet -- you can feed him a grape when he's over there. The palm civet is an animal that's also from Asia, and...

SAJAK: There was a python on here earlier, so...

HANNA: Give him a grape.

SAJAK: Oh, here you are. Here, pal.

HANNA: This animal has a prehensile tail, which means it lives in the treetops. They have also little scent glands right underneath here that people in that part of the world, they use these scent glands for perfume, which I wouldn't do.

SAJAK: You know, it is such a -- and I guess the temptation, when you're dealing with civilians on this. You know, they're cute and they're adorable and you want to cuddle them and they're like the Beanie Babies, and...

HANNA: Right, you can't do it, because this animal here was raised at the zoo. Joe has been there for almost 20-something years. They're all raise -- and again, they're like a loaded gun that can go off at any time.

SAJAK: Mr. King doesn't want his microphone licked. That's the one rule he gave me when he left.

HANNA: But the palm civet is a nocturnal animal. They like little insects, eggs, small birds, that type thing. And you don't see them that much in the daytime either, mostly nocturnal. Again, with that prehensile tail, they live most their life in trees.

SAJAK: OK, well, we'd like to talk about you more but we have a break to do. So here, have a grape. ]

HANNA: And you'll start itching, too, in a minute, so you have to wash your hands after this.

SAJAK: Thank you very much. I'll go take care of that right now. We'll be back with more of Jack Hanna on LARRY KING LIVE in just a moment. Stay with us.


SAJAK: What a handsome creature! Jack, what are we looking at?

HANNA: That's a Golden Eagle. And, Pat, this bird was -- really, when Lewis and Clark went across our country they saw a great many of these birds. Matter of fact, they couldn't figure it out because they'd seen a Bald Eagle and they said: What is this? An immature Bald Eagle?

Because this is kind of what an immature Bald Eagle would look like if you're looking at one. But this is the Golden Eagle, and actually, they even get a little bit bigger than this. And they're the largest bird, I think I might add, the largest bird of prey in North America. Look at that wingspan.

SAJAK: He just looks like he's ready to...

HANNA: Isn't at something else?

SAJAK: ... to grab lunch.

HANNA: This animal is just magnificent when you see it in the wild. And again, look at the talons on that bird.

SAJAK: And -- in trouble, as...

HANNA: No, it's protected, again. I'm sorry to say this bird is hunted in several states. It's against the law but it still is hunted. The bird, again, power lines, DDT, and that type thing.

But again, you have to -- the American Bald Eagle and the Golden Eagle. And of course it's called Golden Eagle because of those beautiful colors. We are having this bird right now, it was confiscated -- I think I'm right -- from California. Someone had taken this from a nest and chicken-raised it, which is totally illegal, to take a bird of prey from the wild and do that. So what happens then? You must understand it becomes Ed's job to take care of this animal at the Virginia Center there. And of course, he cannot release this bird in the wild. Some of them we try and release when...

SAJAK: So ultimate -- that will not happen, ultimately?

HANNA: No, not this bird, because he would know who Ed is and he would -- you can imagine, you're having a picnic in your back yard and he sits down and has a picnic with you, you would probably not like that. SAJAK: Exactly,.


SAJAK: A handsome bird. Thanks, Ed, very much.

HANNA: Thank you, Ed. That's great.

SAJAK: Oh! You know, we haven't had a porcupine on here yet, Jack.

HANNA: No, I'll get you a porcupine, because porcupines are...

SAJAK: Later?

SAJAK: Waiter!

HANNA: That is prehensile-tailed porcupine. This is not just a regular old porcupine, so...

SAJAK: It hangs out (UNINTELLIGIBLE) as well?

HANNA: Yes. Exactly, from Central and South America. Now I always used to call this one Walter Matthau. He kind of, remember Walter had the nose like that, kind of? But his name Magoo, and see the tail here? A North American porcupine -- look how he, see how he gets excited? Look at that. That is a warning sign not to touch him. Now if you touch this porcupine, which I don't want you to do, those quills, they don't throw the quills.

SAJAK: So, that is a myth?

HANNA: Exactly, it's a myth. But the African porcupine is huge, it weighs about 200 pounds. A North American porcupine is about this big. This is a South American prehensile-tailed porcupine. Now, you want to get him, Jo.

SAJAK: Now are you just back from South America?

HANNA: Yes, I just got back from Brazil, filming a bunch of shows over there in Brazil -- fantastic. We were out in the Punta Nao (ph) there, and we saw porcupines like this out in the wild and it was amazing. Jo, can you get, show, stick -- make him stick your shirt, or can you do that?

Now, see show she picks him up underneath?


HANNA: Because the belly's very soft. So, when a cougar, when a cougar or something...

SAJAK: So, it does grab -- wow.

HANNA: See there? Look at that.

SAJAK: Other than the pain of that, is there any...

HANNA: Infection, will be caused. Jarod Miller, who was out here earlier with an animal. He was struck in the kneecap by one of these, and what happens when a cougar or an animal in the wild tries to eat a porcupine they get the quills all in their mouth and it becomes infected and the animal will die. It's not poisonous by any means, but that's their means of defense. Mother nature gave them that when they ball up. That quill, by the way has a barb on the end of it. You can not see it with the human eye, and once that quill goes in you, can not pull the quill -- I mean, you can -- but it's very painful to try and pull that quill out.

SAJAK: Well, thanks for coming out, pal. Nice to see you. Take your corn, and off you go.

HANNA: Now this animal, and we'll let Pat hold that -- is that all right, Jarod? This is a bush baby, and the bush baby is from Africa, and they're nocturnal, and...

SAJAK: Oh, on the leash.

HANNA: They're nocturnal. We were filming at night time with our cameras for animal adventures. We're out there at night. We see all these little eyes in the trees, and it's bush babies. They only come out at nighttime, and they're actually pollinators, Pat. They actually eat fruit, and they'll go around and go to bathroom, obviously in another tree, and they'll pollinate around the jungle there.

SAJAK: There's no sense that I would be a tree to this animal?

HANNA: He wouldn't pollinate on you, but...


HANNA: But notice the tail there. Also, the bush babies used for meat in some places.

SAJAK: And they grab on when you...

HANNA: Exactly. The little hands there, they're just a really unique animal. Feel how soft it is. Isn't it just like...

SAJAK: Look at those eyes.

HANNA: Just like a Chinchilla. See the eyes, they're built for nocturnal vision. That is called a bush baby from Africa.

SAJAK: We'll see you after dark. Take care.

All right. We are going to take a break. The animals are lined up at the door, here. We can't -- they are taking numbers, so we will come back and meet some more in a moment with Jack Hanna from the Columbus Zoo. Stay with us

(COMMERCIAL BREAK) SAJAK: I hold in my hand a cockatoo, right?

HANNA: That is right -- a cockatoo. Remember Baretta?

SAJAK: Sure, oh yes, that is right, sure.

HANNA: That is right. In the news lately. Anyway, this is the bird that Baretta had, and it's a cockatoo, a Moluccan cockatoo.

SAJAK: The type of bird, not the bird? He's not famous for...

HANNA: Right. But you know something, this could be the bird because this bird could live up to 100 years.

SAJAK: Really?

HANNA: And a lot of people, the second-largest smuggling we have in this country is the smuggling of birds, behind marijuana, pot and all that stuff.

SAJAK: Truly?

HANNA: Exactly.

SAJAK: Bringing them in, exotic for people to collect?

HANNA: Several months ago, exactly come out of --

SAJAK: He seems like he wants to go somewhere.

HANNA: Oh, he's just looking right now.

SAJAK: I'm so comfortable with -- ouch.

HANNA: Yes, he might be hurting your fingers.

SAJAK: That's all right, it's OK, I've got nine others, no problem. There you go.

HANNA: He does kind of hurt you, but what they do is they put them in PVC pipe, and they stuff them in the pipes and they try and ship them that way. And of course you can imagine that out of every bird that makes it, 15 or 20 die. So if you are going to get a bird like this make sure they're from a reputable breeder. They live to be 100 years, and it takes a lot of work. So if you are going to have a parrot -- a lot of senior citizens, people, not just that love parrots, because they are an animal they can work with or take care of, but you can't get them...

SAJAK: So, you are not against people having these creatures?

HANNA: No, I'm not against people, as long as people get them from reputable breeders, they know what they are doing, that is OK. But the sad thing is they are still getting these animals from people that smuggle these things into the country and it's a -- for example in the wild, in Australia, where this bird is from, by the way, they get these birds as little chicks and stuff, and specially in South America and Central America and Brazil, they get them by the thousands. We just did a story on a rehab center there, and there must have been 2,000 birds we filmed inside cages. They'll spend there the rest of their life.

SAJAK: My goodness. OK, my friend. Thank you very much.

HANNA: The cockatoo from Australia.

SAJAK: It made a long trip -- now we have another bird coming.

HANNA: This is a Great Horned, isn't it?


HANNA: That Ed is also trying rehabilitate. You won't believe this. The owl is the only bird species -- oooh.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Missed the desk.

HANNA: The owl is the only species of bird found on every continent in the world except Antarctica. Like the European Eagle owl is in Europe, this is the Great Horned owl. The owl is now adapting to our environment. What's happening in this country, we're taking out the woods and all the barns and everything. These owls now are finding homes in out attics and in subdivisions, that type of thing.

The owl is called the bird of silent flight. If we were in this room and we took out all the lights in here, totally dark, this animal could hear a mouse, believe it or not. They don't need their eyesight, which is incredible. They could hear a mouse.

SAJAK: And they will eat that mouse.

HANNA: Oh yes, in a second, with the talons. You can look at those talons and see why.

SAJAK: No, the head, moves around quite a lot, doesn't it?

HANNA: Right, not all the way around, obviously it would fall off.

SAJAK: Eventually, yes. It would unscrew.

HANNA: Right, it would unscrew.

SAJAK: I know that. I've watched enough nature shows to know you don't want to unscrew your head.

HANNA: Right. But this bird here -- it's bones are almost hollow. The bird looks like it might weigh, like he was holding the eagles here a minute ago, they are heavy. This bird doesn't even weigh a pound -- nothing. It's so light, because it's called the bird of silent flight. And again, they are animal, people say you are wise, like the wise old owl, it's not necessarily that the -- because the animal's brain is about the size of a pea. It's that the animal's, his eyesight, his hearing are so acute, that it is a very wise animal, is what it looks like.

SAJAK: So he's relatively wise. He's not brilliant but...

HANNA: Exactly. They fend very well for themselves. They're nocturnal, obviously, with those eyes. So very rarely you'll see an owl in the daytime.

SAJAK: All right. We have to break another break, and when we return, what's coming up next here? Do we know?

HANNA: Oh, I've got some good stuff.

SAJAK: What do you have waiting for us there? What's's the thing that's going to scare me the most, Jack?

HANNA: The snake. But not the one you just had.

SAJAK: Oh, the puff...

HANNA: Yes, the puff adder, yes.

SAJAK: Thank you, well, we'll be looking forward to that. Watch me get scared, Won't that be fun. We will be back.


SAJAK: Looks like a scene from the new foreign film, "Handful of Hedgehog" here. Jack, that is what that is, right? Jack Hanna is with us from the Columbus Zoo.

HANNA: Right. That's a little hedgehog, and of course, we (UNINTELLIGIBLE) books (UNINTELLIGIBLE) about hedgehogs.

SAJAK: It's a full-grown animal?

HANNA: Exactly. The European hedgehog is an animal -- they actually are putting pipes underneath the roads in Europe right now, so the animals can go back and forth across the traffic without getting squished.

Now, you can touch this -- not real hard -- he doesn't have barbs in his quills like a porcupine. See there?

SAJAK: Oh, but the quills -- pretty serious quills...

HANNA: Exactly, right.

SAJAK: ... if you go the wrong -- if you went against the grain.

HANNA: Exactly. And can you imagine having a baby porcupine? I mean, the mother, it must be painful. But really, the quills -- the quills -- oopsy, daisy.

SAJAK: There you go. Hi. I have no food. I have a grape left. Will he eat a grape? Don't play with your food.

Actually, as we are coming back from a commercial, Jack's picking it up, and you picked it up the wrong way.

HANNA: Yeah, I picked her up the wrong way.

See, now, if you do it real gently, you can hold it in your hand like this. But that's their mean of defense. They roll up in a ball. They eat little worms and little insects and things, and they're a neat little animal.

That's what a hedgehog looks like for everybody at home.

There we go.

SAJAK: All right, bye-bye.

HANNA: OK, we'll put you over here.

SAJAK: And speaking of cute animals...

HANNA: There you go.

SAJAK: We're going to replace the hedgehog with what?

HANNA: A kinkajou.

SAJAK: Kinkajou, of course, is from?

HANNA: My daughter Julie helped raise this at the Columbus Zoo. They're from Central and South America. And this is an animal, it's a youngster, and they have a real long prehensile tail. You can see the long tail on this one. Look how long that tail is.


HANNA: Now, the kinkajou is an animal...

SAJAK: What's he eating? A banana?

HANNA: Yes, a little banana. They're a fruit eater. And we see quite a few of these, again, at nighttime in Central and South America. They're not an endangered animal by any means, but this animal, I'm sorry to say, was used by the pet trade a lot in the '50s and '60s in this country and they really depleted the population.

They don't do that anymore, because the animal -- you can feel it there.

SAJAK: Pretty good set of claws.

HANNA: Well, a little bit, yes, because it gets into a lot of bees nests and things like that. It's also called a honey bear. A kinkajou or a honey bear. It's not a bear, obviously. And look at that prehensile tail. You see there? See how that tail wraps around the tree limbs...

SAJAK: It's very soft. May I...

HANNA: Yes, go ahead.

SAJAK: I was talking to the kinkajou, not you, Jack.

HANNA: Oh, OK. See there? A little soft.

SAJAK: Yeah, very nice.

HANNA: Be nice.

SAJAK: Have a banana.

HANNA: There we go. Thank you. There we go. Thank you, John. That's a kinkajou.

SAJAK: How do you get all these animals here? Is this a cab ride or?

HANNA: No, no.

I'll let Jarod hold this. This is obviously the fox from North America, an animal that I think is one of the most intelligent -- like the wolf, they're very -- some people don't like anthropomorhism, but I'll use the word intelligent, because they are intelligent.

SAJAK: When you say that, what do you mean?

HANNA: Well, people say you shouldn't compare animals, anthropomorphic...

SAJAK: That I understood. When you say they're intelligent...

HANNA: Well, because some animal people get upset, you use the word intelligent for an animal. They're not a human being...

SAJAK: But what makes -- why do you say he's intelligent?

HANNA: Because these animals...

SAJAK: Jack, I'm trying to get through to you! Why do you think...

HANNA: Oh, these animals, actually, to try to get -- in Montana, I have a chicken pen, and they could actually get in this chicken pen. How they get in there, I don't know, because I have rocks around there, fence on the top of it. The animals study it.

SAJAK: They're cunning, they're sly, they're resourceful.

HANNA: That's exactly the word they are.

And they're an animal that's a family animal, like the wolf. These are animals that take care of their young. They do a lot better than a lot of people do with their young.

And they're an animal -- also it has an odor -- this one doesn't have an odor. But you'll always know a fox den, from the odor. It smells almost like a skunky type odor.

SAJAK: And this is a fairly common animal.

HANNA: Oh yeah, North America. The foxes are really adapting like the coyotes are adapting to our environment.

SAJAK: Yeah, we them in our neighborhood and...

HANNA: Thanks, Jarod, for bringing that. A lot of people, though, have never seen a fox up that close.

Now, I've got my -- I've got my...

SAJAK: What do you have down there?

HANNA: Oh, this is my -- I love this animal here. This is my bufo marine toad. I love him, Harvey. It's Harvey. Now, you can touch him if you want to.

SAJAK: I'm not sure that I do.

HANNA: He blows himself up with air. You see, that's his means of...

SAJAK: For some reason, I want a beer now. I don't know why that is.


HANNA: The bufo marine toad. But what you do, you want to wash your hands, because these are poison, neurotoxic poison gland.

SAJAK: Well, tell me before I touched it!

HANNA: I know. I forgot. I should have told you before...

But this is a neurotoxic poison gland right here, and that -- you have heard about this toad from South America that took over Australia and South Florida? You ever heard about this?

This is a toad that kids -- people used to lick several years ago to get high on. They licked these things here. Would you lick a toad?

SAJAK: Well, you know, I -- I've had evenings where I've been tempted, but not -- you know, those are the exceptions. So what -- how is the poison emitted or why? Or what?

HANNA: Through these glands here.

SAJAK: But I mean, what -- why would it do it?

HANNA: Well, for protection for himself, because once he emits that poison, like a (UNINTELLIGIBLE) -- it's a neurotoxic poison. This animal has killed a lot of dogs in South Florida.

SAJAK: Why is it on our desk?

HANNA: Because I mean, you have to eat it. You're not going to eat it.

SAJAK: Oh, OK. Oh, I understand. All right, I have to ingest the poison.

HANNA: Or put your fingers in your eyes, which you're not going to do, because I'm going to wipe them off after you get done here.

SAJAK: Certainly not now.

HANNA: He blows himself up with air as a means of...

SAJAK: Is that air that I feel in him?

HANNA: Yeah, exactly, that's air. See, he's blowing himself up right now to make him look a lot bigger than what he is. That's a means of defense. A bufo marine toad. Isn't that neat?

SAJAK: As toads go, a handsome toad.

HANNA: I thought you'd like that toad.

SAJAK: Yeah.

HANNA: Now, look at this animal. This is an animal here this is really prehistoric. This is a...

SAJAK: Is there something in there?

HANNA: Yes, look at this.

SAJAK: Wait a minute.

HANNA: Isn't that amazing?

SAJAK: Will it come out eventually?

HANNA: Yes, this is a three-banded armadillo. Look at that.

SAJAK: Oh, gee.

HANNA: Now, right now, you see how he sits on his head? But see that -- see, looky there.

SAJAK: You know, nature is a fascinating thing, isn't it?

HANNA: It's amazing. Now, when I was in...

SAJAK: Look at that.

HANNA: We saw the giant armadillo in Brazil when we did our filming in Brazil last week, which is a phenomenal country.

SAJAK: Now, is he balled up because he's concerned about the environment?

HANNA: He's a nocturnal animal. This is a three-banded. He's got one -- three bands on him, as you can see. And they have a plate of armor.

SAJAK: Is that...

HANNA: See -- you can go ahead.

SAJAK: That's very hard, wow.

HANNA: Very hard. See there? Now, a lot of people eat the armadillo.

SAJAK: Watch me get the 7-10 split.


HANNA: A lot of people eat the armadillo in the wild. They actually just cook it in its shell, you know, just like it's in a plate or something.

SAJAK: I'm sorry you had to hear that.

HANNA: But not this one.

SAJAK: All right.

HANNA: You see the armor on this. Also, the armadillo's an animal -- and I'm being very serious -- that carries leprosy, but not this one. They have been known to carry leprosy, but this has been cleared.

SAJAK: I love the way you hand me things and then tell me what they do afterwards.

HANNA: But this has been cleared of leprosy, so he's a good animal. But it's a prehistoric animal, isn't it?

SAJAK: Wow. It does. It looks -- I mean, it doesn't look real, but it's a natural animal. Now, he's not going to really come out full bore now.

HANNA: No, I don't think so. We can put him here to see if he will, because it's just too light for him right now. He'll be out here in just a little bit, though.

SAJAK: Well, I've got bad news for you: Your segment is over.


But we have -- we have many more guests coming out. You come out at your leisure, with Jack Hanna from the Columbus Zoo in a minute, on LARRY KING LIVE.

(COMMERCIAL BREAK) SAJAK: Pat Sajak in for Larry King tonight and with Jack Hanna, who is going to not tell us what's in the bag.

HANNA: This is a pouch. Looky there. Isn't that something? And Jarod's raising this little wallaby. And the wallaby's a marsupial from Australia. And you know, people say it's a wallaby, but really a wallaby is nothing but a smaller type of kangaroo.

SAJAK: So it is a kangaroo?

HANNA: Exactly. A kangaroo. And there are about 30 species of different types of wallaby. This is a Bennett's wallaby I think. And this animal -- we see these by the thousands in Australia, and they are a very unique animal. They actually have -- they actually hunt the wallaby and kangaroo over there for meat.

But the tiniest wallaby is about this big. We saw a really teeny one, full-grown.

SAJAK: Now, I picture Australia as just teeming with these. Am I..

HANNA: Out in the bush, out in the bush, you're right. There are a lot of kangaroos and wallabies out there. Again, they're called a joey. A bunch of wallabies are called a mob.

SAJAK: Now, it's a dumb -- are you carrying it in a pouch because that's...

HANNA: Because what happens is a kangaroo can have three babies at one time. They can have on that's just getting out of the pouch, one that's already just been in the pouch, and they're attached to a nipple. There's on nipple in there. It swells around their mouth, and she can also have just been bred. So, she can have three babies at once, and that's why a lot of them are kicked out of the pouch, and we have to raise them in our pouch.

Go ahead, Jarod. You can put him down. We're going to try to put him on the floor.

SAJAK: While you're doing that, Jack, why don't we take a call. Leominster, Massachusetts. We have a caller on here. Do you have a question for Mr. Hanna.

HANNA: Hello.

CALLER: ... after you came in contact with it?

HANNA: Endeared itself to me? Oh, boy, that would have to be the chimpanzee that I tried to get my wife to breast feed.


HANNA: That's a true story.

SAJAK: Which did not endear yourself to you wife. HANNA: No, she know I'd tell the story, but she didn't do it, by the way. But the chimpanzee survived. I endeared myself to that chimp. That was in like 1973.

SAJAK: OK, well, that must have been a very special animal.

HANNA: It was. Down here is out wallaby, I think. I don't know if you can see that now.

SAJAK: Is he still...

HANNA: Can you see him down there?

SAJAK: There he is.

HANNA: There he is, right there. See there? Now, he's out of the pouch.

SAJAK: How high will he hop?

HANNA: No, they can hop. That's a good question. They can hop like 20, 25 feet in one leap. When they're really running, Pat, you wouldn't believe how that animal can fly. That tail is used for balance, and also the big kangaroos, when they get alarmed, those animals can really pop you.

Thank you, Jarod.

Now, this animal here, I bet you've never seen this animal.

SAJAK: You would be right. This looks like we combined several animals.

HANNA: That's exactly what some people say.

SAJAK: A jackalope.

HANNA: This is a spring hare from Botswana, and this animal is what the Kalahari bushmen live off of. The spring hare is out there by the thousands at nighttime. They're nocturnal.

SAJAK: Is a rabbit?

HANNA: No, it's in its own family, the spring hare family. And again, see the big eyes. They're nocturnal and they actually -- oh, I'm sorry. The kangaroos got loose there.

SAJAK: We stalking a kangaroo here. Just talk among yourselves while we're doing this.

HANNA: Yes, but this animal can go like 30 feet at a leap, but the bushmen actually use the fur for their -- use the coat for their fur. That's OK. And they actually use the bones for their tools and the meat is what they eat. So, this animal is a real necessity for that part of the world.

SAJAK: Was it Botswana, you said?

HANNA: Exactly, the spring hare.

SAJAK: And how wide is there...

HANNA: All over that part of Africa. Thank you very much. It's called the spring hare.

SAJAK: Interesting animal.


SAJAK: Even if they're small.

HANNA: you can bring those two out at the same time.

SAJAK: Yes, bring them both out.

HANNA: Well, you can put one near Pat.

SAJAK: You don't have to.

HANNA: But the crocodile is the one that I want to let Jarod hold. Now, this is the crocodile. Now, notice the difference. When you put this -- let me have the alligator for a minute. If you notice the difference here, if you can see -- hold his head still if you can. Look at the difference in the -- you see the snouts. Look at the crocodile which Jarod has and look at the alligator which I have. The alligator's snout is much wider.

SAJAK: I'm sorry, you have the...

HANNA: The alligator and that's the crocodile that Jarod...

SAJAK: So, is that flatter?

HANNA: Exactly, a flatter snout, but this animal is more aggressive. The crocodile is an animal...

SAJAK: The one near me is more aggressive?

HANNA: Exactly, the crocodile is animal that is more slender. The animal is also more endangered than the North American alligator. The alligator has come back very well in this country. It was -- this animal was also extinction in 1970, and today we have tens of thousands of alligators.

SAJAK: That's way too many, if you ask me.

HANNA: They also hunt with vibration, not necessarily smell. They don't chew. They just grab their prey, and they bring them down and drown them and that's how they eat. The tail is used for propelling the animal. Look at the feet. That's a webbed foot.

SAJAK: I take it this is quite a young...

HANNA: Yes, these are about a-year-old, both of these.

SAJAK: And they will get to be -- each of them will get to be how long?

HANNA: Gosh, these animals here could be 2,000 pounds. I mean, they can be big. There's one in Australia I know that's 18 to 19 feet long, a crocodile. They're very, very.


SAJAK: No breast feeding there.

HANNA: Get a piece of banana real quick.

SAJAK: You know, they're beautiful animals.

HANNA: See this animal here is very, quick. There -- you see there.

SAJAK: It's like office equipment thing. Would you like me to staple that, Mrs. Jones?

HANNA: They're very, very quick.

SAJAK: Go ahead.

HANNA: He knows it's paper right now, but put your finger in there. It won't take it off, but it would hurt.

SAJAK: All right, I love them, but get them out of here, Jack. Are we taking a break? I just have lost my train of thought. We'll be back with more beasties, and I'll try to look more comfortable in just a moment.


HANNA: Look at that.

SAJAK: This next animal was introduced to me by Jack Hanna as the deadly puff adder.

HANNA: Jarod handles a lot of snakes. Obviously, people -- we don't bring a lot of poisonous snakes on, but this is a puff adder that Jarod's raised, and you see how he puffs himself up.

SAJAK: I do. He's looking at me as he's puffing.

HANNA: Now, this animal also has caused several deaths in Africa, but people think that snakes cause the most deaths. They don't. Believe it or not, do you know what it is?

SAJAK: Bicycles. I don't know.

HANNA: You're right, but the hippo.

SAJAK: Really? HANNA: The hippo in the water...


SAJAK: Does he know we're not in Africa and so there's no need to cause...

HANNA: No, he likes the light here real good, but the puff adder is animal that has the longest fangs amongst any poisonous snake in the world.

SAJAK: Do I have to annoy him in order to get that...

HANNA: No, you just hit their -- see that tongue coming out? He has Jacob's organ. That's how he's hunting. He's -- look at this.

SAJAK: Oh, wow. Can he spring? Could he jump? Could he leap? You get what I'm getting at.

HANNA: I understand that. But right now, Jarod's got his tail, so he shouldn't leap too far.

SAJAK: Is Jarod a strong young man?

HANNA: But he smells you. See, he's looking toward you, so he smells the heat, so he know that -- see, an animal knows when somebody's upset. He knows that you're not at home right now.

SAJAK: Yes, well, you've a very smart animal to figure this out.

HANNA: Just don't let him jump over this. The puff adder is an animal when you're in Africa you want to make sure your tent is all concealed. Not concealed, but make sure nothing can get into your tent. But look how the snake crawls. Isn't that amazing? Look how it's crawling. Look how it looses its scales to crawl.

SAJAK: Yes, and he's crawling this way, Jack. There's really no need -- I know a snake crawls. I went to school. You don't have to demonstrate. Move the puff adder.

HANNA: Because the animal is an animal...

SAJAK: Bob Barker likes animals. Send him to...

HANNA: Oh, that's pretty good. Thank you. Thank you, Jarod, for bringing the puff adder out.

SAJAK: No, it is a beautiful animal, but it is -- that's something you don't want to touch.

HANNA: No, you don't touch that. Only people who know how to handle them.

SAJAK: Most animals, no matter what they are, in order to have them be a danger to you, they have to be -- you have to annoy them in some way? You have to attack them. HANNA: Exactly. That's a very good point. As long as you respect an animal, a wild animal, you won't get hurt. Whenever I'm bitten, people say, well, oh my gosh, it's the animal's -- it's never the animal's fault. It's my fault.

SAJAK: You touched him the wrong way, grabbed him the wrong way, startled him.

HANNA: Exactly, you always respect an animal, whether you're in a zoological park or in Africa or Asia or whatever. When we film "Animal Adventures," we always respect where we are because it's their home, not our home. You know what this is. This is the Froot Loops bird.

SAJAK: Yes, poor thing's going to go through life...

HANNA: It called a toucan, and when we were in Brazil last week, we saw thousands of these birds, just gorgeous birds. That beak, you would think that beak weighs as lot, wouldn't you?

SAJAK: It looks very heavy.


HANNA: That beak doesn't even weigh a quarter of a ounce.

SAJAK: Really.

HANNA: And they're a fruit eater. I don't know if he's going to catch the grape tonight or not.

SAJAK: Is that...

HANNA: See what he does. He's takes the grape.

SAJAK: Now, is the coloring the same on all of them?

HANNA: No, different types toucans. They're gorgeous in free flight. We were filming them last week and they were just beautiful. Now, this animal -- what's -- some people have tried this for a pet. I do not recommend that ever to have one of these birds as a pet because that grape will come out in him in about 30 minutes. In other words, it's a fruit eater. When you're a fruit eater -- you know what happens when you eat fruit.

SAJAK: Yes, we don't need to personalize this. When anyone eats fruit.

HANNA: Yes, exactly, so that's why this bird is tough to raise. That's not a seed eater.

SAJAK: So, your primary objection to people raising this bird is because...

HANNA: Just because it's hard. It's hard to raise a toucan, plus -- it's doo-doo. SAJAK: Is that too technical a term for you?

HANNA: No, I like that. I never used that word, but I guess that's better than some other words.

SAJAK: Well, it's time that you did.

HANNA: Again, it's mainly a fruit eater. That big beak is on there because that's how it can eat bananas and crush fruits and that type of thing.

SAJAK: And will this leave you alone? I mean, it's a gentle...

HANNA: Well, Jarod's raised this from a youngster. So we use it -- all these animals are used for education. You can go ahead and feed him a grape.


SAJAK: ... a grape.

HANNA: Yeah.

SAJAK: There you go.

HANNA: See there?

He can actually -- you can throw a grape to him if you want to...

SAJAK: Here you go. Hey, Tooky.

HANNA: Tooky.

SAJAK: Tooky. I'm like...

HANNA: Tooky, Tooky, Tooky.

SAJAK: You get a nickname here.

HANNA: Because he's got...

SAJAK: Like here in the administration. Here you go. Oh, that was good.

HANNA: That was good.

SAJAK: All right. All right, try this casaba melon.


All right, back with more from Jack Hanna from the Columbus Zoo. Stay right there, please.


HANNA: This won't do anything to you. SAJAK: Well, here it is, folks. This feels like a fake snake. I mean, this is very...

HANNA: See, I didn't tell you that, did I?

SAJAK: No, no, you didn't.

HANNA: All right, I just handed it to Pat. This is not a snake. This is a legless lizard.

SAJAK: Wow. No wonder.

HANNA: Isn't that amazing?

SAJAK: You are a fake snake.

HANNA: You know why? Because he -- look there. Look at the camera shot. He's got ear openings. They just showed it on TV. He's got ear openings and he's got eyelids. Snake doesn't have that. Look at this.

SAJAK: This is a lizard.

HANNA: See there, a lizard.


HANNA: Now notice -- put him on the desk, Pat. You'll see what I'm talking about. If that was a -- remember how the snake was using his scales to move around?

SAJAK: Sure, kind of his under legs.

HANNA: Exactly. The poor legless lizard, look at him. He can't do anything, because he has no scales.

SAJAK: So how does he get around?

HANNA: Just trying to -- moves his entire body, and it's very, very slow. They live in sand in Europe. And there -- it's very difficult for this animal. But he's a lizard -- see, there's no scales there. It's like a lizard's skin.

SAJAK: It's like a mistake almost. A mistake...

HANNA: Exactly. It's a prehistoric animal. I just wanted you to see this, it's a legless lizard, and show people the difference.

SAJAK: I'm sorry about -- you're not being able to get around so well.

HANNA: No, he's all right.

SAJAK: He's doing fine.

HANNA: Oh, yeah, Look at this animal. This is a -- the Pied crow from Africa, Jarod.

SAJAK: Pied crow, did you say?

HANNA: Yeah, the Pied Crow. Here...

SAJAK: Is it a crow?

HANNA: ... put your arm -- put your arm out here. The one thing about crows, Pat, the one thing about crows -- ouch -- go ahead and put...

SAJAK: He says, "Ow" and hands me the bird.

HANNA: He's fine. There -- there we go. The crow, you got to be very...

SAJAK: Could I see some ID? Could I see like a degree or something, Jack?

HANNA: The crow is an animal. Like if you go to the beach, for example, around -- I don't know where you go to the beach at, but if you see a crow, be careful. Don't leave your watch and all your rings lying on the towel, because crows love to come down and -- "sphew" -- sweep up and get your jewelry and take them. You'll never see it again.

SAJAK: I see.

HANNA: They collect things like that. The crow is an animal, obviously, that -- it likes corn and carrion and that type of thing, you know. This is a Pied crow. Notice the beautiful white there.

See, he's not very heavy, is he?

SAJAK: He's actually a good-looking -- better-looking than most crows.


I would say, no offense...


SAJAK: Oh -- well...

HANNA: Just wait -- I don't know, he likes you.

SAJAK: He likes me and he doesn't want to leave.

HANNA: Come here.

SAJAK: He doesn't want to leave.

HANNA: Stop it.

SAJAK: Don't... HANNA: I'm just trying to get him off of you

SAJAK: All right. I know Alfred Hitchcock personally.



SAJAK: Get away from me. Oh my goodness -- is this the famous...

HANNA: Exactly. He can go over there with you.

SAJAK: Is this the famous -- is this Larry?

HANNA: Yeah, this is Larry.

SAJAK: Larry the lemur. The lemur apparently has been named after our host.

HANNA: Look here, Larry -- Larry? Isn't he nice?

SAJAK: I turned.

HANNA: Larry, Larry.

SAJAK: Larry.

HANNA: Come here.

SAJAK: There you go.

HANNA: Look at here. It's a lemur -- the lemur's from Madagascar, an island off the coast of Africa.

SAJAK: And what family is he...

HANNA: The lemur family.



HANNA: They're prosimian -- they're prosimian. They're pre-ape and pre-monkey. They're not either one. And this animal is really losing a lot of rain forest in Madagascar. It's tragic what's happening to the lemurs. There are not very many left at all.

And they have scent glands up and down their -- their arms there. They mark their territory.

SAJAK: And I'm trying to turn -- there you go.

HANNA: They're a beautiful animal, they really are. And they're an animal that's only found in that little island of Madagascar off the coast of East Africa. SAJAK: Things like that are strange, aren't they?

HANNA: It really is. It's like -- like the Galapagos Islands.

SAJAK: Yeah, exactly.

HANNA: The same thing would go there.

SAJAK: Exactly. OK, Larry, off you go, you're on vacation. There you go.

Now, you -- I see a bag and steel rod again. That always makes me nervous.

HANNA: What's that?


No, No...


HANNA: That's the mamba. No, I'm not doing it.

SAJAK: The mamba is...


You had a mamba scheduled tonight, but you decided out of deference to our safety.

HANNA: Well, because it's just -- it's just so small in here. If he gets on the ground, they're very fast and my daughter Julie is at home. She doesn't want to be seeing this.

SAJAK: Do you have cockroaches?

HANNA: Oh gosh, yes.

SAJAK: Do you have a cockroach?

HANNA: Yeah, look at this...

SAJAK: Oh...

HANNA: Oh, this is one of my favorites. You can hold this. Hold that up and look at all the legs on that.

SAJAK: Look at those. Look at those little legs undulating there. Oh my.

HANNA: A millipede -- look at the legs on that thing. See how they all move? Isn't that amazing? Now, they have -- they do have cyanide as a -- I'm not just saying this. You will wash your hands again. The cyanide they excrete is a means of poison. They're not -- they're not, you know, they're not -- an animal -- they're on the ground in the forest. We see a lot of these in South America.

And a cockroach is an animal, and I'll let you end with this. And this is one of my favorites.

SAJAK: Why are you putting that cockroach on me?

HANNA: Isn't that nice? That's my Madagascar -- that's also from Madagascar.

SAJAK: Now does it sing or make a noise or hum?

HANNA: It does hiss.


SAJAK: It does hiss. How do -- how do you make it hiss? I mean, do you...

HANNA: Well, when they're breeding they like to hiss.

SAJAK: Do you have to show him an old...

HANNA: Oh here. It was just hissing. Leave him and I'll put him with this one.

Did you hear? Well, it's a real quick hiss. I'm sorry -- they're not hissing much today.

SAJAK: No, I guess not. I guess not.

HANNA: But the cockroach is an animal -- it's prehistoric. Been around for thousands of years.

SAJAK: Now, when you think of cockroaches, it's not -- we don't want to see cockroaches around the house.

HANNA: Yeah, but you know -- right, you really don't, because cockroaches can carry certain diseases, but these cockroaches don't. These cockroaches are...

SAJAK: Now are they eaten in -- in...

HANNA: Oh, do people eat them?

SAJAK: Yeah.

HANNA: That's a good question. I wouldn't eat one unless I had to.


SAJAK: I'm not offering you one, I'm just wondering if other -- if other people -- this is a disgusting display. Look at these things.

HANNA: Look at that -- look at that. Look at how he moves those legs. Isn't that amazing how they do that? Look at that.

SAJAK: Well, it was nice of you to come on the show -- the two of you to come on the show. Have you named them?

HANNA: No, I haven't named those -- those, yet.

SAJAK: All right, well...

HANNA: You can take these home to the kids. Your kids would like those. I'll let you take them home.

SAJAK: Really?

HANNA: My cockroaches.

SAJAK: Now what do you -- how do you do...

HANNA: You put a little (UNINTELLIGIBLE) of water in their terrarium, and you can put a log in there for them, and then feed them like some little bit of bread and Cheerios.

SAJAK: My wife is locking the doors right now.

HANNA: But you do have to wash your shirt because they lay eggs.


So make sure you wash your shirt.


I'm just -- don't worry. Just wash your shirt...


... because, God, if you ended up with cockroaches all over your house it would be bad.

SAJAK: No, I would -- I would really hate -- would you do me one favor? Take them cockroaches off my shirt and check for eggs.

HANNA: I'm sorry. OK.


SAJAK: Jack, it's always great to see you. You know, we have a lot of fun with these animals and I know you're very passionate about them and their habitat, and you care a great deal for what's going on. The show's been running for how long?

HANNA: Nine years.

SAJAK: "Jack Hanna's Animal Adventure."

HANNA: Seen in 67 countries, all over the U.S. every weekend. So this year, we've been to Israel, we've been to South America. We're getting ready to go to Antarctica. We're getting ready to go the North Pole. It will be fun.

SAJAK: Great to see you, Jack. Jack Hanna from the Columbus Zoo.

HANNA: Wash you hands.

SAJAK: All right, I will. Thanks for watching tonight. Good night.