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Interview With Elizabeth Edwards; Corey Feldman & Corey Haim: Reunited

Aired July 20, 2007 - 21:00   ET


LARRY KING, HOST: Tonight, Elizabeth Edwards making headlines saying her husband would be a better president for women than Hillary Clinton. Everybody's buzzing about just what that's supposed to mean. Now she'll tell us herself in her first interview since her controversial comments.
And then the two Coreys -- Feldman and Haim -- once Hollywood's highest paid teen stars.


UNIDENTIFIED MALE: How you doing, man?


KING: They seemed to have it all, but then a downward spiral into drugs and scandal. And now they're reuniting for reality TV. And they're here in their first U.S. TV interview together in 10 years.

Plus, a smack down between comics Jon Lovitz and Andy Dick at Hollywood's famous Laugh Factory.

What did the murder of funny man Phil Hartman have to do with the fight?

In his first TV interview since that violent confrontation, Lovitz tells us his side of the story.

And it's all next on LARRY KING LIVE.

Good evening and welcome to another edition of LARRY KING LIVE.

How are you doing?

We're with you every night and we come to you around the world.

And it's a great pleasure to join -- I hope you join us every evening, as part of this continuing desire for knowledge.

And we begin that desire with Elizabeth Edwards, who is in Des Moines, Iowa.

Do you think, Elizabeth that you -- you look great, by the way.

ELIZABETH EDWARDS: Thank you, Larry.

KING: Do you think, in some ways, that you're overshadowing John?

EDWARDS: I don't think it's possible to overshadow John. He's the fellow with the ideas that I talk about. I mean, he's the source of the -- of my daily material.

KING: All right, in a recent interview you voiced some criticism of Hillary Clinton. And this is what you said: "One of the things that makes me so completely comfortable with this is that keeping the door open to women is actually more a policy of John's than Hillary's."

You also said: "She's just not a vocal -- she's just not as vocal a woman's advocate as I want to see and John is."

Putting it in the gender factor, Elizabeth, why should my wife and millions of other women vote as women rather than as citizens?

EDWARDS: You know, that's precisely the question I was answering and I get asked that a lot.

I mean I'm a woman from Hillary's generation.

and the question was, you know, why would you vote for John Edwards or Hillary Clinton if you're a woman making that choice?

And for me, the choice is -- is really about who is going to be the best advocate on women's issues. And if you look across about the issues that really affect women -- health care is one of the most important issues for women. I know this from my campaigning over the last four years. I go to town hall after town hall. It's health care people -- that women ask me about. I bet 60 percent of the questions from women over those four years that I've answered have been about health care.

John has a truly universal health care plan. Every woman, in addition to every man and every child, is covered under his plan, and that's not true of the other candidate and it's not true of Senator Clinton.

She -- she has a plan to reduce costs, but that doesn't mean that women are going to be able to afford -- afford insurance policies. John has the same cost savings and still knows that you need to make a big investment in making certain that every woman is covered.

The minimum wage, John has been an enormous advocate. Reducing poverty -- I'm sitting here in Iowa. And, you know, you're twice as -- almost twice as likely -- or half again as likely to be a person in poverty if you're a woman, as opposed to, a man. John has a platform on poverty and Senator Clinton doesn't.

If you really care about these issues and want to be an advocate on them, I think you need to be outspoken on -- on a number of things that John does have plans on. And I'm awfully proud of him for doing that. It certainly makes it easier for me to answer that question when I get it.

KING: Why single her out and not Obama and Richardson or any of the other men running?

Why her?

EDWARDS: Well, oh, no, the question was asked of me, as it often is, you know, you're a woman and I'm a woman and people come to me and say as a woman I should support the woman candidate. And I say I completely understand that. I mean, I'm of a generation that broke a lot -- you know, we had a lot of barriers to cross. I was a woman sitting in an office with a corporate client when I was practicing law back in the days when I was practicing law. And sometimes I was the first woman lawyer they had ever met.

And so I understand that we've got a lot, we're, you know, breaking down a lot of barriers and I want to break them down as much as anybody else. And I want to make certain that in the process, we're getting people who are outspoken advocates on issues that are important to women.

And in this election, John is the most outspoken advocate for the issues that women care about -- universal health care, raising people out of poverty, addressing the minimum wage, addressing issues with respect to the planet we're leaving behind for our children.

And so when I'm asked that question, I'll be happy to make the comparisons to Senator Obama. I think John does well with those. Or Senator -- or Governor Richardson. John does great on those, as well. But the question is usually asked to me about women's issues.

KING: In that same interview, you said: "When I worked as a lawyer, I was the only woman in those rooms," as you just said.


KING: and you wanted to reassure them you're as good as a man. And sometimes you feel you have to behave as a man and not talk about women's issues.

Are you saying that Senator Clinton behaves as a man?

EDWARDS: No, no. I was saying I -- that I understood the difficult position that women are in as they try to make the case for themselves, because I I've been in that position. But I think that it's important when are you asking to be a leader who is addressing women's issues that you, in fact, be that leader. And John has been a leader and you know that because of his policies, the breadth of them with respect to the women's issues and the depth of each one of them. He truly addresses the issues that are important to women.

As, and, you know, I've talked about a number of them, but, you know, I could talk in -- in more depth about the issues that -- that are important to women -- housing issues and -- it's not that Senator Clinton is wrong on some of these issues. On most of these issues. On most of these issues -- on choice and on equal pay -- she and John agree on them.

But in terms of being a really aggressive, on the full breadth of issues important to women, there's just, honestly, no comparison.

KING: All right, some suggest that you as a woman -- and this is a ticklish issue, I guess -- you can be critical of...


KING: can be critical of Hillary easier than John can because it would look bad for him to be critical of a woman.

EDWARDS: Well, I don't, you know, I don't actually think of myself as being particularly critical of -- of Senator Clinton. I think that she has, you know, I think she's in the right place with respect to a number of issues.

I just think if you're looking, you know, as a lot of women are, for the champion for women's issues in this election, the person who is really going to be aggressive in changing the landscape for women in this country, John Edwards is your candidate. And this is not to be critical of any other candidate. It's just, you know, I think that a number of Democrats are in the right place.

But the question is who is going to be the real leader on these and you know that by how aggressive they're right here in this campaign...

KING: This...

EDWARDS: ...and John is the most aggressive.

KING: This week on "Good Morning America," former President Bill Clinton was asked about your comments on his wife.

Let's listen to his response and get your reaction.


BILL CLINTON, FORMER PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES: Well, I like Elizabeth Edwards and I admire the struggle she's going through and I admire the fact that she's supporting her husband. She ought to be.

I'm proud of Hillary's record and her lifetime commitment and I don't think she's trying to be a man. I don't think it's inconsistent with being a woman that you can also be knowledgeable on military and security affairs and be strong when the occasion demands it. That's -- I don't consider that being manly. I consider that being a leader.


KING: We'll have Elizabeth Edwards respond to that when we come back.

We'll also see the new campaign ad that she's starring in, by the way.

Don't go away.


EDWARDS: I'm so proud to introduce my husband, John Edwards.

And did you think (INAUDIBLE)?



KING: We're back with Elizabeth Edwards.

She's in Des Moines.

Your husband's campaign has just unveiled its first 30 second TV spot featuring you.

Let's take a quick look.


EDWARDS: I've been blessed for the last 30 years to be married to the most optimistic person that I've ever met. But at the same time he has an unbelievable toughness, particularly about other people, and that is his ability to fight for them. You're not going to outsmart him. He works harder than any human being that I know. Always has. It's unbelievably important that in our president we have someone who can stare the worst in the face and not blink.

JOHN EDWARDS, PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: I'm John Edwards and I approve this message.


KING: And I would have approved it, too.

We have an e-mail...

EDWARDS: Thank you.


KING: We have an e-mail question from B.C. In Brooklyn, New York: "While your husband seems to have fresh and detailed ideas, the media darlings seem to be Senators Clinton and Obama."

Why do you think that is?

EDWARDS: Well, you know, if you were a journalist and trying to find an interesting story in this, you know, and you've got a woman candidate and a candidate with an African-American heritage, the white guy might not sound like such an interesting story to you.

But I'm confident that as we move closer to the election, people will become more engaged in and maybe stop the -- stop romancing the good story and start thinking about the good president. And when we -- and when we get to that point, I feel enormously confident about -- about how John is going to do.

KING: Aren't you also up against it financially?

Hillary and Obama seem to be money drawing machines.

EDWARDS: Well, you know, the free press is an enormous advantage in -- in getting money. You get on the front of a magazine, the chances are you're going -- you're going to collect some campaign dollars. And then honestly Chris Dodd, were on the front of "Time" magazine, I suspect that -- that he'd be doing well. It's, you know, I think that we can't ignore the connection between the two.

But John is raising the money he needs to raise to run the race that he needs to run. He has a budget. He's meeting those budget goals and, you know, we're a pretty frugal campaign and we feel great about -- about John's ability to do whatever he needs to do to get his message out.

KING: I forgot to ask you, but what -- what did you make of what Bill Clinton said?

EDWARDS: Well, I don't know that we necessarily disagree. I mean I talk about national security all the time and -- you know, as the daughter of a 30 year military veteran, I certainly talk about military issues. It's one of the things I feel most passionately about.

I don't think that -- that you have to be a man to talk about those issues in any way. And I don't think we disagree. I think it kind of misses the point about whether you are advocating universal health care, about whether you are trying to deal with the problems that so many people who live in poverty. The face of poverty in this country is a single woman's face. You know, it's -- it is great to talk about unequal pay, as I think Senator Clinton and John do, 77 cents on a dollar for a women in the country. If you're a single woman, it's 56 cents on a dollar -- 56 cents for every dollar that a man makes.

We need to address these issues, but we need a really strong advocate, a lead -- you know, someone who is going to lead on these issues, you know, not just check a box. And that's what I want and that's what John offers.

KING: We have an e-mail question from Jack, Hot Springs, Arkansas: "One of my reservations about supporting John Edwards is my memory of his weak debate performance against Dick Cheney. He lost. I don't think Hillary Clinton would have. Can John Edwards go all out in future debates?"

EDWARDS: Well, yes. I hate to disagree with anyone named Jack, since that's my son's name. But all -- and if you go back and look at the -- at the response people had to that debate after it happened, I think MSNBC and CBS both did polls. I don't know whether CNN did, but they might have done polls at the time -- focus groups at the time. John universally, in those -- in those post-debate analyses -- all, won every one of those polls. And that's without their knowing that Dick Cheney had not told the truth with respect to saying, you know, his dismissive statement that he never met John before.

I think that we're -- that maybe hindsight isn't 20-20 in this respect. And John did tremendously good job in that debate. I think that -- that the vice president thought he was going to have a cakewalk. And he did not. And I invite anyone to go back and watch the debate. I don't think there's any way you reach that conclusion.

John is a fighter and you know he's a fighter because you've seen that fight. I've seen that fight over 20 years -- enormously powerful interests on the other side, from the time he was a young man, experienced and seasoned and well funded opposition. And he always took the fight to them to him and, honestly, always won, as he did in that debate.

KING: All right.

How is your health, Elizabeth?

EDWARDS: I feel great, actually. I love being on the road. I love talking about somebody else's health care and not my own. And I've got lots of energy. I'm in here for the long haul, Larry.

KING: You look great.

Thanks so much, Elizabeth.

We'll see you down the road.

EDWARDS: It's great to spend time with you.

I wish I were there in person.

KING: Me, too.

EDWARDS: So long.

KING: You're always great.

Elizabeth Edwards.

And when we come back, the two Hollywood lost boys who are finding themselves back in the spotlight. But what a rough ride it's been. And it sometimes continues to be, as you're about to see in this clip from "The Two Coreys."


UNIDENTIFIED MALE: So happy together.

Gigi is my wife.

I understand that. She's (INAUDIBLE) -- she treats me like a (OBSCENE WORD OMITTED). She's pissed off all the time.

Dude, she's crying right now.

I'm freaked out right now.

I'm the cause of it.

What do you want me to do?

Now you're telling me this is about me.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Vince, my problem is not with you.

I'm just very upset that he would do that to me.

How do you want to patch this up with your (INAUDIBLE)?




UNIDENTIFIED MALE: You always seem to find me, don't you?

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: What are friends are for, huh?

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Best friends, right?





UNIDENTIFIED MALE: That could be a problem.






UNIDENTIFIED MALE: The meanest, the baddest. (END VIDEO CLIP)

KING: We're back.

My next guests are former teen idols who once seemed to have it all -- fame, money, girls, good times and great on-screen chemistry in seven films.

They're Corey Feldman and Corey Haim.

Eventually they went their separate ways. But now, after years filled with everything from drug addiction to weight gain to rehab, they're back together for a new TV reality show "The Two Coreys."

How did you get back together?



HAIM: Just stayed alive.

FELDMAN: Like most good marriages, you know, eventually, I guess, you know...

HAIM: We have our ups and downs.

FELDMAN: It was worked out in bed, really, more than anything. (INAUDIBLE)...

KING: How did it all start with you, Corey/Corey?

I'll start with you, Corey Two.

HAIM: We -- yes, sure. We've been, you know, pitched for about 12 years everything under the sun -- to Canadian chefs, you name it, you know?

We've been pitched everything. And this one, we had a lot of say- so on and it was just a nice recipe. And it was good to reunite and they just wanted to capture us.

KING: And get a...

FELDMAN: Basically it made sense, you know? It made sense. We'd been offered so many things and we said the only way we would do it is if we had creative input. And we're both executive producers on the project. And that made it, you know...

KING: And it starts when?

FELDMAN: ...convincing for us.

HAIM: August 29th, 10:00 p.m. And we run an hour. So it will be one and two, then the week after you'll see two and three. It's really interesting, the way it's done.

KING: And Corey Feldman, you just had a birthday. You were 36 years old.

FELDMAN: That is correct.


FELDMAN: Thank you very much.

HAIM: Happy birthday.

KING: Thirty-six.

FELDMAN: Thirty-six.

KING: How old were you when you two started?

FELDMAN: fourteen-and-a-half, sir.

HAIM: When we started in the business or as a team?

KING: No, when you -- as a team.

FELDMAN: I was 15.

HAIM: Fifteen, yes.

KING: How did that happen?

HAIM: Well, funny enough, he...

FELDMAN: It was haphazard, actually.

HAIM: Well, we auditioned against each other. We were in competition for Mouth in "Goonies".

FELDMAN: And Lucas so...

HAIM: Really. Right.

FELDMAN: So I got "Goonies". He got Lucas.

HAIM: Correct.

FELDMAN: and then I got a call -- actually, I went in and I did my -- my reading and I got the part. And they brought me down to the wardrobe. And as I'm getting on the wardrobe, they said -- it was Joel Schumacher who was the director. And he said, "Oh, I'm so excited. We've got this great cast. We've got, you know, Kiefer Sutherland and we've got Jamie Gertz and Corey Haim."

And I went what? Who? It was Corey Feldman, actually. It's Feldman.

KING: All right (INAUDIBLE)... HAIM: I said, "No, no, no, no. Corey Haim. Corey Haim," so...

FELDMAN: And then I've been stuck with him the rest of my life.

KING: All right, what was the special magic, do you think, between the two of you?

HAIM: Well, besides the name, obviously, which is a very double bubble type issue, you know, people -- and we just clicked, chemistry for ourselves. And people, I guess, get wind of it. Like, wow, these two have something off camera, but on camera it's -- they know what they're -- we can complete each other's sentences.


HAIM: You know?

FELDMAN: It's like -- I've worked with a lot of great people through the years. And with Corey, you know, you set us in front of a camera and tell us to go and it just happens. And there's really no explaining that, you know?

HAIM: I mean, our backs can be turned, right, Larry, and somebody (INAUDIBLE)...

FELDMAN: Corey -- HAIM: We'll know which Corey they're talking or calling or wanting, needing. And we'll just, "Yes." We know.

FELDMAN: Yes, it just happens.

KING: Yes, if you have -- you either have it or you don't?




KING: How long were you a team?


UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Well, it's gone on an off, right?

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I mean it's kind of...

KING: You did movies? You did...

FELDMAN: Yes. Well, we did the first three, which was "The Lost Boys, "Dream A Little Dream" and "License To Drive."

HAIM: (INAUDIBLE). Not in that order.

FELDMAN: And then we took a break. We made an announcement on CNN, actually, where we said, you know, we felt that everybody was starting to get us confused. You know, people were calling me Corey Haim, they were calling him Feldman, they were mixing the two names together and it became Feldschmeister (ph)...

KING: So you just went your separate ways?

FELDMAN: know, and it was all over the place.

HAIM: We went our separate ways...


FELDMAN: We took a break.

KING: You did separate things?

You each did films or?

FELDMAN: Yes, yes.

HAIM: Oh, yes. We've done eight movies together...

FELDMAN: (INAUDIBLE) our careers.

HAIM: Yes. And we just figured this...

FELDMAN: And we -- we took a -- we took a break. And then when we took a break, we both fell into our hard times. And then...

KING: And that was what, drugs?

HAIM: Well, you name it.


HAIM: Just -- just things that...

KING: And was this together or separately?

In other words, you went your way and got into drugs...


KING: You went your way.

FELDMAN: Oh, no, no. We did some drugs together.

HAIM: We had some...

KING: You were friends?

FELDMAN: We had times. Yes, exactly. We were friends and we had experiences and...

KING: You weren't just co-workers, right?

HAIM: Oh, behind the scenes...

FELDMAN: ...he kind of... HAIM: ...we're brothers.

FELDMAN: ...he kind of went into like his dark times separately. I went into mine separately. I got clean. He stayed out there for a while.

HAIM: I considered (INAUDIBLE) learning experience.

FELDMAN: Yes. He did some more research while I was, you know (LAUGHTER) getting into the...

KING: Did you go to rehab?

HAIM: Oh, yes. Yes, yes, many times.

FELDMAN: And -- and then we tried getting back together again, which -- which we did another three films, the first of which was "Blown Away," which was pretty successful. And then the other two kind of seemed to go downhill. And we thought, well, that's not the way we want to leave the legacy. You know, we're not going to leave it on a bad note. So let's get out now while we're ahead and done.

KING: How did you finally get rid of drugs?

HAIM: I didn't like looking in the mirror anymore. I couldn't do it. And tying my shoe like any way, because I couldn't honestly rest my arms. See, I hit about, my peak, about 302. But about 285, about 11 months ago, a few. And now I'm back to 150.

KING: You weighed 302 pounds?

HAIM: At my peak, years ago. But when I saw Corey about a year ago...

KING: This is while you were addicted?

HAIM: I think I have an addiction to pretty much everything. I mean, I have to be very careful with myself as far as that goes, which is why I have a support group around me consistently.

FELDMAN: He's addicted to life.

HAIM: Exactly.

KING: What are you addicted to?

FELDMAN: My addic...

HAIM: His wife.

FELDMAN: Well -- (LAUGHTER). Yes, I'm addicted to my wife now.

HAIM: God bless her.

KING: That's a good addiction.

FELDMAN: Yes, it is a good addiction.

HAIM: Yes. Yes.

FELDMAN: And I will claim I am a sex addict. I -- I take full responsibility.

HAIM: How do I get out of here quickly, Larry?

FELDMAN: I have to admit it. But I was addicted -- I, you know, I had -- I was addicted to cocaine. I was addicted to heroin.

HAIM: God bless you.

FELDMAN: And then I got sober. But, you know, the thing with me is that mine lasted for two years and everybody kind of put this thing over me like, you know, this -- this wild crazy drug guy, you know?

HAIM: And it was like, no, actually it like lasted from like '87 to '89. I was sober by the time I was 18 years old.

KING: And when you stopped, you stopped?

FELDMAN: Right. Never looked back.

KING: You it was longer, right?

HAIM: I was what you would have called back then probably a chronic relapser for the rest of my life. So I always try to stay...

FELDMAN: Not the rest of your life.

HAIM: Not for the rest of my life, but I like to have a great support group around me and to make sure that happens. And I always like to stay fine tuned, so the best I can.

KING: Do you have a fear of blowing up again weight-wise?

HAIM: No, because nothing tastes as good as skinny feels. Mr. King, I can honestly tell you that. I'm going from sir to Mr. King to Larry.

What's your -- what are you comfortable with?

KING: Larry.

HAIM: Larry. Larry.

Thank you.

KING: OK, good.

We'll be right back with Corey/Corey.

As we go to break, two Coreys, one hot tub.

More with the Coreys. (LAUGHTER).

KING: We'll be right back.

This program is now called "Three Jews."

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: And you're in the tub.









UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Don't touch me with your foot.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I'm sorry. I'm lonely. Talking about lonely -- I haven't been in in a long time so (INAUDIBLE)...

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: You're going to need like a boot camp.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Well, experience that I get in meeting somebody, which is where you come...





COREY FELDMAN, ACTOR: Because if you're going to eat like ice cream, you know, don't put it down on a bed.

COREY HAIM, ACTOR: I didn't throw it out yet. That's how tired I am. I just don't sleep. So I'm still up there?


HAIM: How bad (UNINTELLIGIBLE) with you? You're like pale.

FELDMAN: No, it's just I don't want to have to get between the two of you and deal with this kind of [EXPLICITIVE DELETED] because I love you both and I respect both of you.

HAIM: I love you too, man. I don't want to start any problem with you guys.

FELDMAN: I'm sorry. I'm sorry.


LARRY KING, HOST: We're become with Corey Feldman and Corey Haim back together in this reality show. And they say it's not a reality show. It will air on July 29 -- premier on July 29 on A&E at 10:00 p.m. Eastern.

It's not a reality show?

FELDMAN: It is not what you would expect as an average reality show. We tried to do something different.

KING: It's a concept.

FELDMAN: It's a hybrid essentially. It's a scripted reality is what you could call it. But essentially we wanted to kind of build a new frontier as a bridge between the two worlds. And this is something very different. The emotions are more real and more honest, the things that are conveyed, than you would find on any reality show because it's all very contrived. But that said, you know, we write the setups, the scenarios. We make each story have a beginning and a middle and an end. And hopefully have a positive message at the end of it all.

KING: The concept is he's married.

HAIM: The concept is...

KING: Are you there with your wife?


KING: And you move in with...

HAIM: ... it's myself moving in with his wife, his dog Jake who he's had for 16 years. The poor guy has cancer. And his wife is good to me.

KING: You're not married?

HAIM: No, sir, I'm not. I'm single.

KING: So you live with the two of them?

HAIM: I move in with the two of them.

KING: Do you have children?

FELDMAN: I do have a child but he's not on the show.


HAIM: He calls me uncle. FELDMAN: My son is Zen.

KING: So Zen is not on the show at all?

FELDMAN: No, we want to keep him away from...

KING: So what does he go outside when you carry the scene?

FELDMAN: No. Well, I mean, basically we rented a house in Vancouver to shoot the show in. And we had three levels to the house. We had our nanny there, and the nanny would be upstairs with Zen, you know, keeping him...

HAIM: Larry, he was a nightmare.

KING: Now, this on-screen team, we talked about them earlier, was born in 1987 on the set of the teen vampire film, "The Lost Boys." We'll take a look at the clips from the two Coreys after Corey Haim learns that there's going to be a sequel but he's not going to be a part of it. Watch.


HAIM: Corey, I'm single and I haven't had a girlfriend in a long time. And I'm turning 35. And I'm not doing "Lost Boys 2," man, it's a pretty (EXPLICITVE DELTED) bad day so far.

FELDMAN: You're alive!

HAIM: I understand that.

FELDMAN: Well, we both made our mistakes, OK. But we grew up and now we've got to make it right. You know what I'm saying?

HAIM: I guess you're not doing this without me.

FELDMAN: No way.

HAIM: Thanks for telling me, brother. You're a good friend.


KING: This is not a comedy?

FELDMAN: It is comedy, but there's some very real emotional moments, you know. That moment for Corey was 100 percent honest. I didn't tell him anything about it before the cameras rolled. And I broke the news to him and that was his honest...

HAIM: It was a hard moment for me. It was one of the greatest times in my personal life, filming that movie. So it was very hard for me to hear that there were already filming a low-budget Warner Brothers video sequel to "Lost Boys."

KING: Yes. We have an e-mail question from Nicholas in Billings, Montana. "What was the best thing about working together on 'The Lost Boys' and what was the worst thing?"

FELDMAN: Corey Feldman and Corey Feldman.


FELDMAN: I think the best thing was kept each other's sanity in a way by laughing a lot. Yes, we keep each other laughing and that's the important thing in life I think to always be able to laugh.

HAIM: I'll have to say the prop room, Larry.

KING: The what?

HAIM: The prop room.

KING: You didn't like the prop room?

FELDMAN: It's bigger than my house. It was awesome.

KING: Why was it a hit?

HAIM: Well, it was (UNINTELLIGIBLE) to go into there. And there's -- it's a mini Toys R Us for me. And the set was so large. When we got back -- we filled half in Santa Cruz and the rest back on Warner Brothers. You know Stage 15 was the house and everything. And Stage 12 was the...

KING: For kids, right?

HAIM: It could be.

FELDMAN: Age 2 to young adults. But I think it was just -- at the time, it was a movie that was cool and slick and hip and had a great rock 'n' roll soundtrack.

HAIM: And people say to me, "I'm scared of that movie." I don't watch -- I don't see it. I don't see what's so scary. But then for that part -- outsider's part of view I do see what might be very scary back then. And it's also quite a timeless movie, "The Lost Boys."

KING: Yes. Where do you want this show to go? I mean what's -- how do you envision...

FELDMAN: One step at a time, Larry.


FELDMAN: We're here now.

HAIM: We're here for you.

KING: The name of your new show is?

FELDMAN: "The Two Coreys."

KING: "The Two Coreys." FELDMAN: Yes.

KING: And you want it to -- what, you want to have a five-year run? You want to be on every week?

FELDMAN: That would be nice. From your lips to God's ears, you know.

KING: What's your goal with it?

FELDMAN: Well, our goal really is just to provide some good clean family entertainment. I mean that's really the purpose of the show. We want people to tune in, enjoy it. And if they like it enough and it warrants it, then we'll come back for another season.

But I think really everybody has kind of been saying, you know, what can we do to get the two of you guys back together. And to us this was the project that made sense, you know. It's a split between a sitcom and a reality show. It's the wave of the future, I think where television is going, trying to merge those two worlds and tell a good story.

KING: 10:00 p.m. though is not a young person's hour, is it?

HAIM: Depends on how you look at it.

FELDMAN: Well, it could be.

HAIM: That's true.

FELDMAN: It's not for the little, little ones, you know. I understand they'll be in school.

HAIM: I don't think it's going to be just for younger people, Larry. This is a very interesting show. It's kind of a la "Curb Your Enthusiasm." But the show, you know -- I just want to clarify this, it's very unscripted. But the emotion is very...

KING: And so is "Curb..."

HAIM: Yes. It's just emotions and everything, as you just saw me cry. I was very emotional right then and kind of awkward when cameras and people you form a little family with are still around you zooming in and you're crying on your brother's soldier. It's somewhat of a trip if I can use that word, weird.

KING: "The Two Coreys" debuts on July 29 an A&E Network at 10:00 Eastern. We'll be back with some more moments with the two Coreys, that means both of them, on this edition of LARRY KING LIVE.

Still to come, Jon Lovitz. Don't go away.


HAIM: I just wanted to let you know I appreciate you being my friend. You're so perverted. Yes. (END VIDEO CLIP)



HAIM: You guys just going to bringing stuff up about my past and stuff because, you know what, that's just gone, Susan.

FELDMAN: You're getting so (EXPLICTIVE DELTED) worked up, man.

HAIM: You want to keep it real. That's real.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Oh you know what...

HAIM: I'm happy for...

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: ... you're acting like a little kid.

FELDMAN: Why can't we just be happy?

HAIM: It's my life and now that I (EXPLICITIVE DELETED) it up.

FELDMAN: And Corey...



KING: "The Two Coreys," wow. Let's take a call.

Cherryville, Kansas, hello.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Hi, this call is for Corey Haim.

KING: Go ahead.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: I loved you in "Lucas." I wore out that tape. I just want to tell you I loved that. Did you ever date any of your co-stars?

FELDMAN: All of them.

HAIM: Yes, I have dated some of my co-stars.

KING: What do you make of what's happening to young stars today? You've had gone through. I mean Lindsay Lohan and...

HAIM: Again, Larry, I...

KING: ...Paris.

HAIM: ...moved away back to Toronto about 12 years ago.

KING: Do you have an opinion?

HAIM: My opinion is just be very careful when you're young and making the money.

FELDMAN: I'll give you my opinion on the matter, Larry.


FELDMAN: Here's where my take on it is: the problem is not with the kids. The problem is with the media exposure and with everybody that's buying into it because the real answer is every kid goes through problems, you know. If you look within your family, you're going to find a kid that's going through those same problems. The difference is they're under the media spotlight and everybody is taking time to focus on it. But if you broke it down, you know, every kid goes through experiences and makes mistakes. And that's an opportunity for growth and it's an opportunity for change. That's what mistakes are about.

KING: We have an e-mail from Kevin in Linden, Michigan. "Did you abuse drugs while you were working? Are there movies when you are high on the screen?"

FELDMAN: Yes. If you would like to watch some drug abuse in action, you can out, let's see, "License to Drive." Yes.

KING: You were high during "License"?

FELDMAN: Oh yes. I was a mess during that movie, for sure. Well, "Rock 'n' Roll High School."

HAIM: "License to Drive" for me was my breaking point for me, one day.

KING: And an e-mail from Lane in Richmond, Virginia: "Any roles you turned down you wished you'd accepted? And any roles you really, really wanted that went to somebody else?"

FELDMAN: I think we both have those.

HAIM: I stole some by accident. I'm sorry. And I don't want it to come up and...

KING: So this was personal?

FELDMAN: Yes, very personal.

HAIM: It still is, Larry.

FELDMAN: I would say, for me, my -- the movie that I turned down was "Born on The Fourth of July," which I had an opportunity to do that with Oliver Stone. And it was a small part. And it was right at the point where I had, like, three films out theatrically. And I said, well, I'm not going to play, you know, Tom Cruise's younger brother. I think that's what the role was. And looking back on it after...


FELDMAN: won Academy Awards and all those things, you know.

HAIM: I'll listen to you from now on.

KING: Also, it was a great film.

FELDMAN: It was a great film and I regret it.

HAIM: I had a movie I really wanted to do. And we were just talking about being competitive in "License to Drive" and what have you. And (UNINTELLIGIBLE), you know, from Steven Spielberg, there's a few things I wanted to do, which the personal divergence -- and "Lucas," -- I had gotten the part in "Stand by Me" and the part in "Lucas" in the same day. So I was actually eating lunch in Rob Reiner's backyard with him. And I read for rest in peace, River Phoenix's part, got it and...

FELDMAN: So are you saying you would have rather be in "Stand By Me" than "Lucas"?

HAIM: I wouldn't have changed anything...

KING: Boys, I wish you nothing but the best, man.

FELDMAN: Thank you very much.

KING: Corey Feldman and Corey Haim. "The Two Coreys" debuts July 29 on A&E at 10:00 p.m. Eastern.

Jon Lovitz, he beat up somebody. There he is. And he'll tell you what happened. There he is when we come back. Jon Lovitz is warming up.


UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Welcome aboard, Max. I know the rest of the staff just can't wait to meet you so why don't you meet them.

JON LOVITZ, ACTOR: Wait, wait, does this mean I'm hired?

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Yes. Yes, it does, Max.

LOVITZ: Wow! I can't believe I pulled that off.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Who the hell do you think you are?



KING: We now welcome Jon Lovitz, an old friend, actor, and comic, to LARRY KING LIVE.

Jon, by the way, will be doing his stand-up at the Orleans Hotel and Casino in Las Vegas later this month, the 27th through the 29th. And this is his first TV interview since his confrontation with comic, Andy Dick, at Hollywood's Laugh Factory last week. OK, in your own words, what happened?

LOVITZ: Well, first of all, I do want to say, Larry, I've been working 22 years and made 35 movies. I've been trying to get on your show for years. If I knew all I had to do was slam Andy Dick into a wall, I'd have done it 10 years ago.



LOVITZ: And I do a show at the Laugh Factory every Wednesday at 8:00, too.

KING: All right. You're a great stand-up.

LOVITZ: (UNINTELLIGIBLE) Illinois, is Dick a dick?

KING: What happened?

LOVITZ: Well, he likes to push thing and push and push. And I finally pushed him back basically. And, you know...

KING: What did he say?

LOVITZ: ...people say it's a long feud. Well, it started -- this is what happened: is -- Phil Hartman is like my brother, OK. And he's making comments about that. And you know Phil had a Christmas party at his house in December of '97.

And I also just want to say the only reason I'm talking about this now is because somebody called "The Washington Post" and told them all about it. I mean the "The New York Post." And they said they were going to run with the story. And they go, "Do you have a comment?" They knew everything, so I just said, well, then I've got to tell the truth to save my own, you know reputation.

KING: What happened?

LOVITZ: Well, in December of '97 Phil had a Christmas party. And Andy was doing cocaine and he gave it to Phil's wife, in other words, to share it with her. And Phil told me about this and he was furious about it. And then, you know, five months later Phil was murdered.

KING: By his wife?

LOVITZ: Yes, by his wife. And then they asked me to do "News Radio." And they said you guys would share -- they asked me to do it. You sure everyone wants me there, yes.

KING: Replacing Phil?


KING: Right. LOVITZ: So I do the show and everyone is fine except for Andy. And he's complaining to everybody and why am I here and why am I making more money than him. You know I'd say what's your problem? You know I think you're nice, you're talented. I give your jokes, you know. And he wouldn't stop. And then he started saying stuff about me in the press. And that's when I drew the line.

So he was complaining about me being there. And I said, "Look it, I wouldn't be here if you hadn't given Brynn coke in the first place." And I was very angry about it. And I was blaming him for what happened.

And is it his fault? No, but at the time I was angry and he never stopped. And finally a few years later, I ran into him and we made up and everything was fine for years. And then a year ago, I'm in this restaurant, Argo, in West Hollywood, which I'm one of the investors in. So it's kind of like having your own place. I'm there with a friend of mine, Joe Coy (ph), a comedian, and the table next to us, about a foot away; I'm talking to a Jose Canseco's ex-wife. You know she's there. She's a nice lady.

So her friends, they decide to buy us a drink. I don't drink at all. But they decide to get these peach liquors, which is like a dessert. And then I look up and then someone says, "Andy is here." So I look up and I see him. And he comes walking over to my table and I go, "Hi Andy." And he doesn't say anything. He just takes Joe Coy's (ph) liquor and he chugs it down. He takes mine. He chugs it down. You know, and at that point, I go, "You ass." And then it's dripping down his chin. And then he looks at me smiling and very softly says, "I put the Phil Hartman hex on you. You're the next one to die."

So I said, "What did you say?" He goes, "I put the Phil Hartman hex on you. You're the next one to die."

You know and of course I wanted to punch him in the face. But you know the -- he was right -- there was a table right behind him. He would have been falling on, you know, all over the people. It would have been a big mess in this restaurant that I'm, you know, one of the owners of. And I didn't want to cause a scene. So I said, "Get him away from me right now." So they took him away. And I said, "I don't ever want him here in this place again." And they banned him from the restaurant. And then I just said to myself if I ever see him again I'm going to, you know, smash his face in.

KING: And?

LOVITZ: And then a week and a half ago, every Wednesday I do my show at The Laugh Factory at 8:00. Anyway, so I'm doing my stand-up show and it's going great. And there's a 75 party planner to see my show and recommend people to come see it. And then I finish the show. And that night's my night. I say who gets to host it, who is on stage and everything.

Next thing I know I look up and he's on stage. I said, "What is he doing here?" They go, "Well, we thought we should put him up." He's a -- quote -- big star, which he's not. But they said that. I said, "What are you kidding?" This guy -- I said, "Look it, you don't know what he's going to do." Two months ago he was at the Improv and pulls his pants down. He's literally counting his...

KING: What did you do, Jon?

LOVITZ: ...pubic hairs in front of the audience.

So I was furious and I didn't want him there. And so, I'm in the lobby -- sorry, I'll get to the point. So I'm in the lobby and it's packed with people, and a great show, thank you, thank you, thank you. Then he comes out and I was furious.

As soon as I saw him, I wasn't mad. I don't know why. I just wasn't, because I was getting along. So I went up to him and I said, "Andy, do you realize what you said to me the last time you saw me? You said, 'I put the Phil Hartman hex on you. You're the next one to die.'" And he just goes I don't remember saying that.

So I said, all right, maybe because you were drunk but that's what you said. "I put the Phil Hartman hex on you. You're the next one to die." I don't remember saying that. And then he leans in towards me and he goes, "Well, you know why I said it, because you said I killed Phil Hartman. That's the first thing you said when you got on "News Radio." And I said, "No, I never said you killed him." "Yes, you did." And I go, "No, I didn't. It was 10 years ago."

And then he goes, "Well, anyway I'm producing a movie. Do you want to be in it?" And now he's trying to ruin my career. So I pulled him by the shirt and I pushed him against the wall. And I said, "Listen, I don't want to be in your movie. I don't want to be in your life. I don't want anything to do with you. Do you understand?" And I kind of shoved him. And he just smiled like he liked it, like a sick, you know, f'ing idiot. So then I go now is my chance. So I pulled him back and I went like this and that. You know first I tried to hurt him. I slammed his back and his head in the wall. And then, bam. And he went ah, you know. And then a bodyguard broke that up, you know.

KING: That's it?

LOVITZ: That was it. Now we're here on your show.

KING: Back in a minute.

As we go to break, a golden oldie, Jon Lovitz and his friend, Phil Hartman, in a classic sketch from NBC's "Saturday Night Live." Watch.


PHIL HARTMAN, COMEDIAN: What do you mean?

LOVITZ: I'm letting you go.

HARTMAN: You mean? LOVITZ: Yes, you're contract isn't being renewed.

HARTMAN: But Harry...

LOVITZ: You're finished, Johnny.

HARTMAN: Don't mince words.

LOVITZ: I think you stink.

HARTMAN: Listen, Harry, if you're unhappy with my work, tell me now.

LOVITZ: You're through, do you hear me, through. You'll never work in this town again.

HARTMAN: Don't leave me hanging by a thread. Let me know where I stand.

LOVITZ: I think you're the worst actor I've ever seen. And I get 500 letters a day telling me the same.

HARTMAN: What's the word on the street?



KING: We're back with Jon Lovitz.

We contacted Andy Dick's representative for comments about the altercation at The Laugh Factory and Jon Lovitz's allegations about Andy's responsibility in the deaths of Phil and Brynn Hartman, and reports that Andy said he was putting the Phil Hartman hex on Jon. Their response was "no comment."

By the way, you didn't say that Andy Dick was involved somehow in the death somehow of Phil Hartman, did you?

LOVITZ: No, I -- no. What I was trying to do at "News Radio" is I blamed -- yes, but he gave her cocaine. You know she was doing it at Phil's house. Phil told me this. He was furious. His friend's best friend told me everyone knows. And he was furious because she had been sober for 10 years and that started her spiral down.

KING: Later she killed him.

LOVITZ: Yes, later.

KING: The fight between Andy Dick and Jon Lovitz was the topic of "The View" earlier this week. Guest co-host Sherry Shepherd said that she had spoken with Andy Dick about what happened. Watch.


SHERRY SHEPHERD, "THE VIEW" GUEST HOST: It's like 4:00 in the morning and it's like Andy is like, "Hi, Sherry." The phone rings and I'm like hello. And he says, "Hi, this is Andy. What are you doing?" And I'm like I'm sleeping.

And so he goes on to tell me. He's says, "You know I'm not talking to anybody. But I wanted to tell my side of the story." And he says, you know, "Jon Lovitz, he has no career and I approached him to do a movie that I wrote. And he all of a sudden slammed me up against the wall." And I said, but you know, "Andy, he's mad because you gave Brynn cocaine." And he said, you know, "Back when I was doing 'News Radio,' I was doing drugs. I did not know she was sober for 10 years. When you are -- when you do drugs you go to the person that you know has drugs." And she came to Andy Dick.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Oh, she came to him?

SHEPHERD: She came to him.


KING: Right or wrong?

LOVITZ: He's completely wrong and he's now made about, I don't know how many enemies. And he'll probably have a giant lawsuit. And you know -- look it, Larry, when the guy says, "I put the Phil Hartman hex on you," I don't think it's a voodoo. It's just a horrible thing to do. He's mocking like Phil deserved it. He's disrespecting that. He's threatening my life, you know. And I don't know. It freaks you out because when you have someone that close murdered to you, it just scares everybody, me, other friends of his. Are we going to get killed? It's not a rational thought, but that's what happened.

And you know look it, it wasn't a fair fight. I'm 5'10". I'm 190 pounds. Andy is a girl. It's not fair. I admit it.


KING: Why did you turn down this movie though?

LOVITZ: I'm trying to revive my career not kill it.


LOVITZ: He's going to save my career?

And the listen, I'm telling you, I've never experienced -- all these comedians are congratulating me. You go on the Internet and everyone is saying it's about time with this guy. People are coming up on the streets thank you for doing this, you know.

Now the one thing that's not true, they said I -- (UNINTELLIGIBLE) witnessed it and I took his head and slammed it into the bar four or five times and his nose was bleeding. Look it, if I did that to anybody, they'd be in a hospital. It didn't happen.

KING: Have you heard from him since? LOVITZ: No. Listen, that Monday, there was supposed to be a charity event and he might have been there. And I said, you know what, I'm not going to go because if I do I'll probably get in a fight with him again. And he likes this. He's an attention whore. He'll do anything. He exposes himself on stage. He's a pig. He's a putz. He's a schmuck. He's a -- you know yiddish.


LOVITZ: He's a...

KING: But other than that...

LOVITZ: ...pure unadulterated idiot.

KING: ... other than that, what do you like about him?

LOVITZ: I'll tell you this, what's the difference between Andy Dick and Hitler? Some people liked Hitler.


KING: Thanks, Jon.


KING: Jon Lovitz and he'll be...


LOVITZ: Why are you laughing?

KING: Because that's funny. He'll be the Orleans Hotel July 27 through the 29th. And he's, of course, at The Laugh Factory, right?

LOVITZ: Yes. And then I got a match coming up -- a boxing match at Caesar's Palace.

KING: Hey, don't forget...

LOVITZ: You be there. I'm going to kick his ass. And you're next, Larry. You're going down.

KING: I got to get out of here.

LOVITZ: You're going down.

KING: Don't forget about the CNN/You Tube Democratic presidential debate Monday night 7:00 Eastern right here on CNN. Still time to submit your questions. Just go to

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