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Aired April 22, 2004 - 12:59 ET

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THIS IS A RUSH TRANSCRIPT. THIS COPY MAY NOT BE IN ITS FINAL FORM AND MAY BE UPDATED.

MILES O'BRIEN, CNN ANCHOR: It's a party for the Army. Fort Hood, rolls out the welcome mat for the 4th Infantry Division. We'll pay them a visit
MIGUEL MARQUEZ, CNN CORRESPONDENT: The king of pop has been charged by a grand jury, what does it mean? I'll fill you in.

KYRA PHILLIPS, CNN ANCHOR: A call to prayer five times a day ringing throughout your neighborhood, would it bother you? A Michigan mosque sparks debate on LIVE FROM...

O'BRIEN: And he ought to be in pictures. Well, he's been in plenty, Jeanne Moos has the proof.

From the CNN Center in Atlanta, I'm Miles O'Brien.

PHILLIPS: And I'm Kyra Phillips. It's Thursday, April 22, CNN's LIVE FROM... starts right now.

O'BRIEN: Accused, booked, charged, arraigned, now indicted, the Michael Jackson story chapter -- well, we've lost track. But it's a major step from a grand jury investigating child molestation claims that Jackson and his lawyer insist are untrue. CNN's Miguel Marqez, plugged in and in Santa Barbara.

Hello, Miguel.

MARQUEZ: Hello, Miles. I think it is enough that we just say it is another chapter in the ongoing saga and the ongoing trial against Michael Jackson. We do know a grand jury, 19 grand jurors, 12 of them had to vote on every single indictment. They have indicted Mr. Jackson. What's not clear is what exactly they have indicted him on. We certainly know that they were hearing testimony and seeing testimony related to molestation charges that arose from a claim out from February 2003.

In the grand jury process, the legal threshold that those grand jurors have to cross, 12 of 19 have to believe with a strong suspicion of guilt on each and every single charge that the D.A. asks for that Mr. Jackson was, in fact, guilty. And then they forward those on to the D.A. and then it's up to him as to whether or not he allows that to then go to trial.

Mr. Jackson -- whatever they are it's likely to be very similar to the charges Mr. Jackson also faces from a criminal complaint filed in January, where he was arraigned on seven counts of lewd and lascivious acts against a child under 14 and two counts of giving a child an intoxicating liquor.

Mr. Jackson's lawyers wasted no time, in fact, it seemed they had a statement prepared before the indictment even was handed up. The lawyers saying that Michael Jackson, like any other person accused of a crime, is presumed to be innocent, in this case, Mr. Jackson is not just presumed to be innocent, but, in fact, he is innocent.

Now, if the D.A. -- the Santa Barbara D.A., Tom Sneddon, decides to take these charges the grand jury has lodged against Mr. Jackson, and supersede the criminal complaint already filed against Mr. Jackson, then Mr. Jackson will have to be re-arraigned. That would happen on the thirtieth. He would go to court where he would have a chance to hear the charges read before him. And his lawyers say he will plead not guilty -- Miles.

O'BRIEN: Miguel, when are we going to know a little bit more about this indictment?

MARQUEZ: Well, I'd like to say -- our best guess is, our best belief is, is that we will know next Friday, on the thirtieth. But certainly a lot of information has leaked out in the days previous to this. So it is possible that we will hear more on this in the next few days. But for sure, we will hear certainly on the thirtieth -- Miles.

O'BRIEN: All right, Miguel Marquez, Santa Barbara, we'll be watching on the thirtieth. Ought to be a thriller, I guess -- Kyra.

PHILLIPS: Out of bounds, the Bryant case, medical records from the 19-year-old woman whom Kobe Bryant allegedly raped at a Colorado resort last June, a judge in Eagle says that the records may not be subpoenaed by the NBA superstar's lawyers because the alleged victim didn't give up her privacy rights. The defense claims the woman is mentally unstable and may have been injured by another sex partner after her encounter with Bryant.

Now to Donald Rumsfeld, secretary of defense, addressing newspaper editors in Washington, D.C. He's taking Q&A. Let's listen in.

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PHILLIPS: Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld there in Washington, D.C., a little Q&A going on with newspaper editors. The president of the United States did this yesterday. He's talking of course about the war on terror. We'll continue to monitor what he has to say -- Miles.

O'BRIEN: Overseas now, from what's generally considered the most secretive nation, chilling reports of catastrophe. South Korean media report a collision in North Korea between trains carrying oil and liquefied petroleum gas. South Korea's all news cable network says huge numbers of people may be dead or hurt after colossal explosions 12 miles from the Chinese border. CNN's Sohn Jie-Ae is watching and listening from the South Korean capital.

Jie-Ae, what do we know?

SON JIE-AE, CNN CORRESPONDENT: South Korean media still are reporting, the reports they have gotten so far, there have been no confirmation yet from North Korea or from or the surrounding countries about the explosions. But South Korean authorities have previously confirmed that there was a major explosion in North Korea. They identify it as in -- near the Ryongchon station, which is about 50 kilometers south of the border between North Korea and China. It is about northwest of the North Korean capital of Pyongyang.

The eyewitnesses in the region, according to Chinese sources, saying that the explosion was massive, and that the area surrounding the station has been destroyed. They are saying -- they are reporting very high casualty numbers, possibly even into the thousands.

Now the South Korean authorities have not, however, been able to confirm exactly why the accident happened, or what exactly the casualty numbers are. One of the interesting things that -- about this incident, is that about eight to nine hours before the incident happened, North Korean's leader Kim Jong Il, actually passed this very station on his way back into North Korea from this visit to China. While the authorities are not making any direct connection, this is one of the interesting points that the South Korean authorities are going to take a close look at.

PHILLIPS: And from Yemen this hour, reports of surrender by a long-sought suspect in the bombing of the USS Cole. Sources say the man gave up willingly after being cornered by police in his home region southeast of the capital. He's believed to be an al Qaeda foot soldier who helped connected the Navy ship's bomber with the people who scared up the small boat that was loaded with explosives. Seventeen U.S. sailors were killed in that attack in October 2000.

Self-professed al Qaeda sympathizers claiming responsibility for yesterday's attack in Riyadh, Saudi Arabia. Four people were killed, 100-plus were wounded in a car bombing outside the general security complex. Reportedly, one of the six attacks that were planned, the only one police weren't able to stop. A group called the Brigade of the Two Holy Shrines says it's distinct from al Qaeda but has parallel goals.

O'BRIEN: Three more hostages are free in Iraq today and three major contractors standing down. The German firm Siemens has brought workers home, at least temporarily, while U.S.-based GE and Bechtel have suspended some projects. All of that work deals with infrastructure, mostly utilities, and all is expected to get done.

On the battlefront, the generally stable city of Basra is mourning those killed in yesterday's attacks on police stations. CNN's Jim Clancy has more on that.

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JIM CLANCY, CNN CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): Teachers hung their heads and mourned for the children who will never return to their classrooms, their young lives snuffed out in a fiery instant by suicide car bombs. While Basra mourned, some demonstrated against the U.S.-led occupation.

Supporters of the radical Shia leader Muqtada al-Sadr exploited the grief for political gain. Al-Sadr is locked in a struggle with the coalition to avoid arrest on murder charges and hold on to his paid militia, the al Mehdi Army, many of the young men marching wore the trademark black of al-Sadr's militiamen.

Wednesday's attacks were the most devastating suffered by the people of Basra since the U.S.-load coalition launched its invasion more than a year ago. Washington put the blame on terrorists associated with Abu Musab al-Zarqawi, whose strategy of trying to incite civil war appeared the most likely explanation for the savagery of the attacks. But no group has yet claimed responsibility.

Jim Clancy, CNN, Baghdad.

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PHILLIPS: Well, here at home, the biggest Army base in the country is throwing one of its biggest parties over. CNN's Keith Oppenheim joins us now live from Fort Hood, Texas, for an extremely happy homecoming -- Keith.

KEITH OPPENHEIM, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Yes, we're going to talk to a family that is going through what a lot of families are going through, Kyra. Let me introduce them. This is Major Mark Raschke, his wife Karen, and probably most importantly, 17-month-old Emma.

And I guess the first question for you, Mark, is it must be nice to have that little girl back in your arms.

MAJOR MARK RASCHKE, 4TH INFANTRY DIVISION: Oh, yes. She's -- I love her. Missing my wife and my daughter are probably the two hardest things that I had to deal with the year I was over there. So it's very good to have her.

OPPENHEIM: Apparently she's going to be making a cell phone call during this interview. But we'll let that be as it may. Let's talk seriously about what you did while you were over there. You were in Iraq for a good 12 months, in Tikrit, you told me, and along the Iranian border. How much danger did you feel that you were in during your stay of service?

M. RASCHKE: I was not in as much danger as others. Yes, I got -- the -- there were a couple times, mortars, maybe an occasional direct fire, but nothing like some of the other guys. But I'm just appreciative of all the guys and all the individuals that were over there. They did a tremendous job of dealing with different people in contact. It's phenomenal what they did.

OPPENHEIM: The microphones under fire here.

M. RASCHKE: I know.

OPPENHEIM: Karen, you were talking about what it was like while you were waiting for your husband during this time. Do you connect with that sense of danger that he was under, or do you have to sometimes just deny it?

KAREN RASCHKE, MILITARY WIFE: You try and deny it, I think, as much as you can. You always know it's there. It's always in the back of your head. For me, I went through highs and lows. There were times when I wanted to know everything that was going on over there. There were other times when I just completely avoided the news, the newspaper, I just couldn't deal with any of it, and just preferred to stay busy with Emma, and doing other things to make the time pass.

OPPENHEIM: So tell me a little bit about this reunion, and as we can hear behind us, the concert that's happening today, do you feel like it's mixed emotions? Is it mostly happy, or is there some sadness in the background for you?

K. RASCHKE: Definitely mostly happy. It's celebration that we got them all back, but there's that little tinge, I think, of sadness of the ones that were lost.

OPPENHEIM: And you know people, Mark, who died in Iraq, isn't that right?

M. RASCHKE: Yes, when I was in 110 Cav (ph), they lost four good soldiers. And I was really good friends with one, Captain Leafnot (ph), a couple of others, Sergeant Turner (ph), Sergeant Bacon (ph). There are some great, great Americans who paid the ultimate sacrifice and my hat will always be off to those individuals.

OPPENHEIM: Right. So you keep that in mind, that as you're back here, there's a lot to be thankful for and it kind of all mixes together in your mind.

M. RASCHKE: There's a lot to be thankful for and there's a lot to be appreciative of, of those who made that sacrifice. It's just -- it just is -- it gets me speechless. I just can't fathom how that would affect our family.

OPPENHEIM: We'll end on that very poignant note. And I should point out, too, Kyra, that this young lady, not only has she been very well-behaved during this interview, but she seems comfortable in her father's arm. And we have seen kids, by the way, who have acted as if they just didn't know their fathers when they reunited with them yesterday, which is sometimes one of the hard things about being gone for so long as the Raschke family experience as well. Back to you.

PHILLIPS: Well, Keith, she knows dad and she knows the importance of a cell phone. It's all about communication. Thanks, Keith -- Miles.

O'BRIEN: President Bush and Senator John Kerry hit the campaign trail today. We'll check in on their whereabouts, what's on their agenda on this Earth Day.

Also this.

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UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I think it's extraordinarily ghoulish.

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O'BRIEN: Pictures of Princess Diana in her final moments. The broadcast of those images has her family and all of Britain crying foul.

And one man's prayer is another man's problem in one Michigan town. The debate when LIVE FROM... continues. Stay with us.

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JACK BURKMAN, ATTORNEY, GOP CONSULTANT: ... just because somebody has a faith, that doesn't mean we respect it. Islam, in my mind, has come to stand, in many ways, for nothing but violence. It started out 20 years ago as just a handful of crazies, guys like the ayatollah, on the fringe. But you know, today I look at this and I wonder, particularly as we have a war on American soil, if you had a tragedy in the United States again like 9/11 tomorrow, God forbid, how many people in the Islamic world -- what percentage of the Islamic world would cheer this?

The reality is, in an age where we have this war on terror, on American soil, it's sad, but we just can't be as free as we used to be. We just can't throw it wide open to everything. We have to have more of a crackdown and we have to pay attention to some of these things.

PHILLIPS: Ibrahim, is it a peaceful chant or is it a call to arms?

IBRAHIM HOOPER, COUNCIL OF AMERICAN ISLAMIC RELATIONS: Well, it's very disappointing when we hear this kind of bigotry displayed, that Islam is compared to the faith of Hitler and Stalin. This is what gets us into this downward spiral of hostility and mistrust. And I think allowing a call to prayer, which is a very reasonable thing, no different than a church bell, because those who hear it who are not Muslim are just going to hear sounds. They're not going to understand what it says. So it's very similar to a church bell.

This sends a positive message to the Muslim world that America accommodates its Muslim citizens and it defuses the kind of hatred that spread by people like Osama bin Laden. And I resent deeply the implication that all of Islam represents violence...

BURKMAN: I did not say all of Islam...

HOOPER: ... and hatred.

: I didn't say all of Islam. I said increasing amounts. Islam itself is a beautiful, wonderful ideology. The problem today is that very few people in the world practice that. And if you look at -- yes...

HOOPER: The reality of today is that...

BURKMAN: ... there are a billion practicing Muslims...

HOOPER: ... 99.9999 percent...

BURKMAN: ... but very few of them follow that.

PHILLIPS: All right. Jack, Jack, Ibrahim brings up a good point here. I mean, we're in a whole new environment now after 9/11. We're trying to be more multicultural, more understanding, understand the Muslim religion, the Muslim people. Isn't this just another sign that -- isn't this another barrier that's coming up between the two cultures?

BURKMAN: I don't think so. I think American leaders have bent over backward to show tolerance towards Islam. But that doesn't mean -- and this feeds into issues like racial profiling, that doesn't mean that you have to be blind to the reality that all of this trouble is coming from one religion in one part of the world. We're not having problems with the Buddhist religion. We're not having problems in the United States with the Hindu religion. We're not having problems with various African tribal religions. We're not having problems with any religion but one ideology and one so-called faith. And what that means is we must...

HOOPER: So-called faith? Perhaps we should warm up the gas chambers and the ovens and the concentration camps. That's the kind of ideology that you're promoting here.

BURKMAN: I'm promoting no such thing.

HOOPER: Hatred, perpetual hatred, perpetual conflict. This gives aid and comfort to people like Osama bin Laden.

BURKMAN: What my friend wants to do...

HOOPER: If you want to diffuse the hatred of people like Osama bin Laden, and undercut him, you show that America respects religious beliefs, respects religious tolerance. You don't promote bigotry and hatred.

BURKMAN: Kyra, what my friend is suggesting is that any time we have heightened scrutiny of Islam, and what's going on, and remember, we have war on our soil. He uses the word bigotry. The instant I suggest any form of heightened scrutiny -- we could be debating this or any...

HOOPER: I thought we were talking about...

BURKMAN: ... number of a dozen issues...

HOOPER: ... a call to prayer at a mosque...

PHILLIPS: All right. Let me ask -- Ibrahim, Ibrahim, I have listened to this chant that's coming out of the mosque in Detroit, in the suburb area, Hamtramck, and it says Allah is the only god. That's the chant. The chant is the only god. Now that is very different from church bells, Christian church bells, that ring on Sunday. That's just music. So there is a tremendous difference here.

HOOPER: The call to prayer is not an exclusionist kind of prayer, it says God is great. Do most people in America not believe God is great? It says come to prayer. Do most people in America not say, come to prayer? These are the kinds -- and the people who are not Muslim will not even understand what is being said here, it will be a sound no different than church bell.

BURKMAN: Kyra, part of the problem -- and it's a shame we've reached this point, but part of the problem is, with modern Islam, not the faith, not the scripture, not the theology, but modern Islam, the way it's practiced in many parts of the world, certainly the Mideast, is that it is becoming very, very difficult to distinguish between the faith and the theology and the political violence, call to arms. And America must be sensitive to that.

HOOPER: I think one problem you see people like my colleague here, not making any distinction between someone who is a terrorist and someone who is a faithful practitioner of Islam, and that's the problem...

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PHILLIPS: OK, I'm hearing -- Jack, Jack, you're talking about faith becoming a militant ideology here. Ibrahim is saying that is not true, everybody practices faith in a different way. I mean, you could take Christianity and say that there were a lot of people that took that in a militant -- we could go back to Waco, Texas, and talk about faith from the Christian perspective. But let me just quickly ask you guys, when you look at the Ten Commandments, OK, and this was not even allowed in the courthouse in Alabama, and this was a huge story, a big debate. Those Ten Commandments were taken out of that courthouse. You know, where do you define what's fair and what's not fair and freedom of...

HOOPER: By the way, the Muslim community is great believer in the Ten Commandments. We don't mind the Ten Commandments being put up. We follow the Ten Commandments...

PHILLIPS: But it was taken out.

BURKMAN: Kyra, your point is a good one and your point is that we do not in this country allow unlimited -- just an unlimited use -- pushing of religion into the public sector. And that was exactly the issue with the Ten Commandments. I think it's an excellent point because it shows how even-handed and tolerant the United States can be.

PHILLIPS: Final thoughts, Ibrahim?

HOOPER: Well, I think we're seeing here the kind of problem we're facing as Americans. We have voices out there calling for interfaith mistrust and hostility. And we have to fight those voices. We have to say that all religions in America will be respected and... BURKMAN: Let me...

HOOPER: ... and we are not going to allow ourselves to be drawn into the hatred promoted by people like Osama bin Laden my colleague here.

BURKMAN: Let me leave your viewers with this factual thought. And again, I ask this question to everyone. If there were a tragedy in the United States tomorrow on the order of 9/11, what percentage of the Muslim world would rejoice at that? And I ask that to every American.

HOOPER: I think a very tiny minority...

PHILLIPS: We've got to leave it there.

HOOPER: ... the vast majority would condemn it.

PHILLIPS: Ibrahim Hooper, Jack Burkman, interesting discussion, I hope we can visit it again, gentlemen. Thank you very much.

We're going to take a quick break, we'll be right back.

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O'BRIEN: It's April 22 and you know what that means, right? It's Earth Day. Did you send a card? It also happens to be April 22, 2004, which means it's Earth Day in an election year which makes it a prime opportunity for a little political mud-slinging.

This is a venue where some of that will occur. Candidate Kerry in President Bush's Texas backyard today, his visit to Houston, Texas on tap very shortly. Houston is the nation's fourth largest city and it rivals L.A. in terms of smog. It's expected he'll get in a few digs as he criticizes the Bush record on environmental issues.

Meanwhile, the president has headed to Maine to shore up his positions on the environment. CNN's John King in Wells, Maine, joining us with more on that. Hello, John.

JOHN KING, CNN SENIOR WHITE HOUSE CORRESPONDENT: Hello to you, Miles. Maine, of course, a home away from home for this president and the Bush family. And the president coming here to the Wells Reserve today to make the case that his administration has done its job and then some in preserving the environment. As you know, the Democrats of course taking issue with that on this election year Earth Day.

The president taking a tour here at the Reserve with a familiar face, his mother, Barbara Bush, the former first lady who lives nearby in Kennebunkport, Maine taking a tour with the president as he viewed some of the conversation efforts here in this wetlands, right along Maine's coast.

And the president then delivered a speech here marking Earth Day in which he said his administration was reversing a government policy that was simply designed to preserve wetlands, no net loss was the policy. The president said the policy now will be to expand the acres in the United States protected in wetlands areas.

And the president, in doing this, said his administration will come up with more money for the effort. But part of the president's case today was protecting and preserving the environment is not only the government's job.

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GEORGE W. BUSH, PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES: I've come here because this is a great example of people seizing the initiative, a great example of where the government can help, but not stand in the way of common sense policies that will make a significant difference to the wetlands and the native species and it sends a clear signal to everybody else around our country that if you want to be a responsible citizen, do something about the quality of the life in the community in which you live.

KING: After the speech, the President shaking some hands engaging in small conversation with many of the workers who work that the project here, this Reserve here. Then it's back to Washington for another environmental event back at the White House, Miles.

And as we said at the top, the Kerry campaign criticizing this president, mr. Bush making the case he does have a pro environment record. Some demonstrators on the street here as the president came in today. This is a campaign dominated by debates over the economy and by the president's policy in Iraq.

But on this Earth Day, the Democrats and Republicans, the Bush campaign and Kerry campaign, taking issue with each other over environmental policy -- Miles.

O'BRIEN: CNN's John King, in Wells, Maine. Thank you, very much.

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O'BRIEN: The British media, Fleet Street, known for their sensitivity and decorum -- not -- are outraged today. Last night, CBS' "48 Hours" aired paparazzi photos taken of Princess Diana as she lay dying in a Paris car crash seven years ago.

More understandably, Diana's brother, Lord Spencer. released a statement saying he and the family is shocked and sickened by CBS' actions.

And although no official comment has been made by Diana's sons, a former spokesman for Buckingham Palace told the BBC it's going to be painful for William and Harry.

Ken Wharfe, a former Diana bodyguard, was interviewed for the CBS program, but is critical of the network's decision to show the photos.

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) KEN WHARFE, FORMER BODYGUARD TO DIANA: William and Harry are two educated young men who will dismiss this out of hand and they won't wish to see it, they will not want to see it.

The actual picture, which I've seen, doesn't in any way support the program at all, I mean, you know it doesn't serve any purpose, other than pure sensationalism and I think that it will offend a lot of Americans, as it probably will offend a great deal of people over here as well.

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PHILLIPS: New medical research suggests just the smell of food could have a major impact on the brain's chemistry. In fact it could very well have links to desire and addiction. CNN medical correspondent Dr. Sanjay Gupta explains.

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SANJAY GUPTA, CNN MEDICAL CORRESPONDENT: New research out saying that smelling and tasting food but not eating it can lead to some very specific changes in the brain, changes that are associated with desire and with addiction similar to cocaine. Very interesting study. A small study, really, one of the first of its kind.

Looking at 12 patients, 12 participants here, all of them hungry, they hadn't eaten in 17 hours. They were all given a chance to smell and taste their favorite foods, Cinnabuns, pizza, ice cream, brownies, things like that. Then, after that, they were taken to the PET scanner to get their brains imaged, to see what their brains looked like. See the top row now. The top row is what their brains looks like when they are given the food stimulation. They smell it, they taste it, but they can't eat it. Several areas of the brain lighting up there, most importantly, those areas in the front.

Bottom row, no food stimulation. You don't see that sort of same areas of the brain lighting up. Let me show you specifically what I mean on this brain model. Areas in here, in the frontal lobe, and over here, in the top part of what's known as the temporal lobe, are associated with addiction, desire and cravings. Those areas lighting up more in those patients who were stimulated by food than those patients who are not. I mentioned cocaine earlier.

They did do some studies as part of the study, as well, to try and figure out: Is there is a relationship? Is there a similarity, between food stimulation and cocaine stimulation? Take a look at these two PET scans, now. On the left, these are just people who were allowed to think about food, smell it, taste it. That's on the left, that area in the front of the brain, again, bright yellow, really important. Possibly an area of the brain responsible for addiction. On the right, now, the whole brain lights up. But in that front part, again, bright yellow, even brighter yellow. That's when someone who is a cocaine addict is thinking about cocaine. So what does this mean? Well, again, this could be one of the first studies that show food could be addictive. We talk about overweight problems, we talk about obesity problems, so much in this country, well, this could be the first study showing food in fact can be addiction.

It can also be a gateway substance, meaning someone who has compulsive cravings for food could subsequently use those cravings for other things, perhaps illicit substances. There's also the whole notion these cravings can lead to other addictions later on in life and that you become more vulnerable to bad habits.

Interestingly as well, we are constantly bombarded by all sorts of advertising, food advertising on television. You see candy machines everywhere. Certainly, those things, according to this study, may foster more of an addiction for food as well. Interesting findings.

Dr. Sanjay Gupta, CNN, Atlanta.

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PHILLIPS: Straight ahead, Madonna's done it, so has Billy Crystal, Robin Williams, and a host of other celebs. Find out what it is when LIVE FROM... continues.

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PHILLIPS: He's just 2-years-old, but already rubbing elbows with the rich and famous.

O'BRIEN: And as our Jeanne Moos shows us, the New York toddler has the pictures to prove it.

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JEANNE MOOS, CNN CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): He may be just learning to talk.

JEREMY ZOREK: Uh-oh. Nice.

MOOS: But somehow he's managed to talk his way into dozens of celebrity photo-ops. From Leno to Billy Crystal to Robin Williams to Halle Berry.

MICHAEL ZOREK, JEREMY'S DAD: It's not the best picture of Jeremy but she looks beautiful.

MOOS: Jeremy's dad posts them all on the Web site whoisthatwithjeremy.com.

J. ZOREK: Who's that?

M. ZOREK: That's G. Gordon Liddy.

MOOS: From Watergate to Playboy, sorry, Hef, Jeremy is a boy who plays, not a playboy. Back in the '80s Jeremy's dad was an actor. In a dress, in a mohawk. Now his son's posing with actors like 007, singers like Billy Joel. They run into celebs on the street, go to dozens of book signings. Jeremy's most photographed moment was with none other than Madonna. (on camera): So are you doing it for fun?

Do you want to have a show biz career?

M. ZOREK: It's for fun. It's for fun. He models. Which is fine. But none of this...

J. ZOREK: Mommy! Mommy!

MOOS (voice-over): We tagged along when Jeremy lined up to meet Danny Aiello signing his new CD.

M. ZOREK: Can you say hi Danny Aiello.

J. ZOREK: Hi Danny Aiello.

M. ZOREK: This is my son Jeremy.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Hey, Jeremy.

M. ZOREK: Can I get a photograph?

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Sure.

MOOS: A few say no. Among them Mikhail Gorbachev and Paul McCartney. Though Ringo posed.

(on camera): Can you say P. Diddy.

J. ZOREK: P. Diddy.

MOOS (voice-over): From rapper, to former president, there's even a parody Web site now. Who is that eating Jeremy? And someone photo swabbed Jeremy's head onto Michael Jackson's dangling baby. Once in awhile Jeremy fuss.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: One more for the road.

M. ZOREK: He likes -- if you know the ABC song he likes that better.

J. ZOREK: ABCD.

MOOS: This kid's too cool to drool on a celebrity. Makes posing with Santa seem quaint.

Jeanne Moos, CNN, New York.

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O'BRIEN: Man's best friend making headlines today. Well, maybe "headlines" is a strong word. But take our word for it, these dog stories don't stink. The rough details after a break. Or a pause if you will.

(COMMERCIAL BREAK) O'BRIEN: And before we leave you in this hour, let's check in with the dog desk. Kyra Phillips manning that desk. Some of the best dog-goned stories we've seen in a while, as a matter fact.

Ever heard of a cat on a hot tin roof? Sure you have. But in Raleigh, North Carolina, a pup gets the upper paw? Trixie must like the view up there. See it? And the locals are properly amused. But we must wonder does Trixie conduct all of her business up there? If so, please, duck.

Moving right along, the moving story of Sophie and Bean. Now, Bean had been grabbed headfirst by a gator in her Houston backyard. But her pal Sophie wasn't having any of it. There's Sophie. Sophie grabbed Bean's hind leg, held on for dear life, while the dog's owner pelted the pesky reptile with a 20-pound chunk of concrete. Good thing she had that nearby, I always keep one nearby in the yard, too. The gator left with a few bruises, instead of a meal of Bean. Now, Bean was left with quite a scar, but naturally, quite a friend in Sophie. A dog's best friend--a dog.

PHILLIPS: Finally a little something for you dog-lovers like me whose favorite furry friend is afflicted by -- oh man, flatulence. Why did I have to say that? Why me? We should have just said gas.

O'BRIEN: I always said you were an old fart.

PHILLIPS: Oh, one Frank Brosky (ph) has developed a product to reduce the odor of canine emissions. Charcoal-lined panties for pooches that poot. Well you can imagine trying to get those on your own dog, well you should know, the company already makes a version for humans. Oh, I can really go far with that.

O'BRIEN: When's your birthday? Because I have just the gift for you on this Earth Day...

PHILLIPS: Oh, you know that's so not right.

O'BRIEN: ... I want to send along to you...

PHILLIPS: If you all only knew.

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PHILLIPS: All right. Coming up in the next hour of LIVE FROM..., presidential hopeful John Kerry's Earth Day remarks from Houston, Texas.

O'BRIEN: Live pictures from that site right now. This is part of the lengthy introduction. I believe this is about the eighth person doing introductions, but such is the nature of political events. As soon as the candidate takes the podium, we'll bring it to you live. Stay with us for that and more as LIVE FROM... continues.

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PHILLIPS: Hi, everyone, I'm Kyra Phillips, welcome back to the second hour of LIVE FROM.

O'BRIEN: I'm Miles O'Brien, we're glad you're with us. Let's go live right away to Houston, Texas. Senator John Kerry, the presumptive Democratic nominee running for President begins shortly his speech on this Earth Day. A combination of the environment and politics coming into play today.

We heard from President Bush just a little while ago in Wells, Maine, not far from the summer home for the Bush family. Let's listen to John Kerry now, who's chosen Houston because of its rather checkered record with clean air and smog. Let's listen in.

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MILES O'BRIEN, CNN ANCHOR: It's a party for the Army. Fort Hood, rolls out the welcome mat for the 4th Infantry Division. We'll pay them a visit
MIGUEL MARQUEZ, CNN CORRESPONDENT: The king of pop has been charged by a grand jury, what does it mean? I'll fill you in.

KYRA PHILLIPS, CNN ANCHOR: A call to prayer five times a day ringing throughout your neighborhood, would it bother you? A Michigan mosque sparks debate on LIVE FROM...

O'BRIEN: And he ought to be in pictures. Well, he's been in plenty, Jeanne Moos has the proof.

From the CNN Center in Atlanta, I'm Miles O'Brien.

PHILLIPS: And I'm Kyra Phillips. It's Thursday, April 22, CNN's LIVE FROM... starts right now.

O'BRIEN: Accused, booked, charged, arraigned, now indicted, the Michael Jackson story chapter -- well, we've lost track. But it's a major step from a grand jury investigating child molestation claims that Jackson and his lawyer insist are untrue. CNN's Miguel Marqez, plugged in and in Santa Barbara.

Hello, Miguel.

MARQUEZ: Hello, Miles. I think it is enough that we just say it is another chapter in the ongoing saga and the ongoing trial against Michael Jackson. We do know a grand jury, 19 grand jurors, 12 of them had to vote on every single indictment. They have indicted Mr. Jackson. What's not clear is what exactly they have indicted him on. We certainly know that they were hearing testimony and seeing testimony related to molestation charges that arose from a claim out from February 2003.

In the grand jury process, the legal threshold that those grand jurors have to cross, 12 of 19 have to believe with a strong suspicion of guilt on each and every single charge that the D.A. asks for that Mr. Jackson was, in fact, guilty. And then they forward those on to the D.A. and then it's up to him as to whether or not he allows that to then go to trial.

Mr. Jackson -- whatever they are it's likely to be very similar to the charges Mr. Jackson also faces from a criminal complaint filed in January, where he was arraigned on seven counts of lewd and lascivious acts against a child under 14 and two counts of giving a child an intoxicating liquor.

Mr. Jackson's lawyers wasted no time, in fact, it seemed they had a statement prepared before the indictment even was handed up. The lawyers saying that Michael Jackson, like any other person accused of a crime, is presumed to be innocent, in this case, Mr. Jackson is not just presumed to be innocent, but, in fact, he is innocent.

Now, if the D.A. -- the Santa Barbara D.A., Tom Sneddon, decides to take these charges the grand jury has lodged against Mr. Jackson, and supersede the criminal complaint already filed against Mr. Jackson, then Mr. Jackson will have to be re-arraigned. That would happen on the thirtieth. He would go to court where he would have a chance to hear the charges read before him. And his lawyers say he will plead not guilty -- Miles.

O'BRIEN: Miguel, when are we going to know a little bit more about this indictment?

MARQUEZ: Well, I'd like to say -- our best guess is, our best belief is, is that we will know next Friday, on the thirtieth. But certainly a lot of information has leaked out in the days previous to this. So it is possible that we will hear more on this in the next few days. But for sure, we will hear certainly on the thirtieth -- Miles.

O'BRIEN: All right, Miguel Marquez, Santa Barbara, we'll be watching on the thirtieth. Ought to be a thriller, I guess -- Kyra.

PHILLIPS: Out of bounds, the Bryant case, medical records from the 19-year-old woman whom Kobe Bryant allegedly raped at a Colorado resort last June, a judge in Eagle says that the records may not be subpoenaed by the NBA superstar's lawyers because the alleged victim didn't give up her privacy rights. The defense claims the woman is mentally unstable and may have been injured by another sex partner after her encounter with Bryant.

Now to Donald Rumsfeld, secretary of defense, addressing newspaper editors in Washington, D.C. He's taking Q&A. Let's listen in.

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PHILLIPS: Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld there in Washington, D.C., a little Q&A going on with newspaper editors. The president of the United States did this yesterday. He's talking of course about the war on terror. We'll continue to monitor what he has to say -- Miles.

O'BRIEN: Overseas now, from what's generally considered the most secretive nation, chilling reports of catastrophe. South Korean media report a collision in North Korea between trains carrying oil and liquefied petroleum gas. South Korea's all news cable network says huge numbers of people may be dead or hurt after colossal explosions 12 miles from the Chinese border. CNN's Sohn Jie-Ae is watching and listening from the South Korean capital.

Jie-Ae, what do we know?

SON JIE-AE, CNN CORRESPONDENT: South Korean media still are reporting, the reports they have gotten so far, there have been no confirmation yet from North Korea or from or the surrounding countries about the explosions. But South Korean authorities have previously confirmed that there was a major explosion in North Korea. They identify it as in -- near the Ryongchon station, which is about 50 kilometers south of the border between North Korea and China. It is about northwest of the North Korean capital of Pyongyang.

The eyewitnesses in the region, according to Chinese sources, saying that the explosion was massive, and that the area surrounding the station has been destroyed. They are saying -- they are reporting very high casualty numbers, possibly even into the thousands.

Now the South Korean authorities have not, however, been able to confirm exactly why the accident happened, or what exactly the casualty numbers are. One of the interesting things that -- about this incident, is that about eight to nine hours before the incident happened, North Korean's leader Kim Jong Il, actually passed this very station on his way back into North Korea from this visit to China. While the authorities are not making any direct connection, this is one of the interesting points that the South Korean authorities are going to take a close look at.

PHILLIPS: And from Yemen this hour, reports of surrender by a long-sought suspect in the bombing of the USS Cole. Sources say the man gave up willingly after being cornered by police in his home region southeast of the capital. He's believed to be an al Qaeda foot soldier who helped connected the Navy ship's bomber with the people who scared up the small boat that was loaded with explosives. Seventeen U.S. sailors were killed in that attack in October 2000.

Self-professed al Qaeda sympathizers claiming responsibility for yesterday's attack in Riyadh, Saudi Arabia. Four people were killed, 100-plus were wounded in a car bombing outside the general security complex. Reportedly, one of the six attacks that were planned, the only one police weren't able to stop. A group called the Brigade of the Two Holy Shrines says it's distinct from al Qaeda but has parallel goals.

O'BRIEN: Three more hostages are free in Iraq today and three major contractors standing down. The German firm Siemens has brought workers home, at least temporarily, while U.S.-based GE and Bechtel have suspended some projects. All of that work deals with infrastructure, mostly utilities, and all is expected to get done.

On the battlefront, the generally stable city of Basra is mourning those killed in yesterday's attacks on police stations. CNN's Jim Clancy has more on that.

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JIM CLANCY, CNN CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): Teachers hung their heads and mourned for the children who will never return to their classrooms, their young lives snuffed out in a fiery instant by suicide car bombs. While Basra mourned, some demonstrated against the U.S.-led occupation.

Supporters of the radical Shia leader Muqtada al-Sadr exploited the grief for political gain. Al-Sadr is locked in a struggle with the coalition to avoid arrest on murder charges and hold on to his paid militia, the al Mehdi Army, many of the young men marching wore the trademark black of al-Sadr's militiamen.

Wednesday's attacks were the most devastating suffered by the people of Basra since the U.S.-load coalition launched its invasion more than a year ago. Washington put the blame on terrorists associated with Abu Musab al-Zarqawi, whose strategy of trying to incite civil war appeared the most likely explanation for the savagery of the attacks. But no group has yet claimed responsibility.

Jim Clancy, CNN, Baghdad.

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PHILLIPS: Well, here at home, the biggest Army base in the country is throwing one of its biggest parties over. CNN's Keith Oppenheim joins us now live from Fort Hood, Texas, for an extremely happy homecoming -- Keith.

KEITH OPPENHEIM, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Yes, we're going to talk to a family that is going through what a lot of families are going through, Kyra. Let me introduce them. This is Major Mark Raschke, his wife Karen, and probably most importantly, 17-month-old Emma.

And I guess the first question for you, Mark, is it must be nice to have that little girl back in your arms.

MAJOR MARK RASCHKE, 4TH INFANTRY DIVISION: Oh, yes. She's -- I love her. Missing my wife and my daughter are probably the two hardest things that I had to deal with the year I was over there. So it's very good to have her.

OPPENHEIM: Apparently she's going to be making a cell phone call during this interview. But we'll let that be as it may. Let's talk seriously about what you did while you were over there. You were in Iraq for a good 12 months, in Tikrit, you told me, and along the Iranian border. How much danger did you feel that you were in during your stay of service?

M. RASCHKE: I was not in as much danger as others. Yes, I got -- the -- there were a couple times, mortars, maybe an occasional direct fire, but nothing like some of the other guys. But I'm just appreciative of all the guys and all the individuals that were over there. They did a tremendous job of dealing with different people in contact. It's phenomenal what they did.

OPPENHEIM: The microphones under fire here.

M. RASCHKE: I know.

OPPENHEIM: Karen, you were talking about what it was like while you were waiting for your husband during this time. Do you connect with that sense of danger that he was under, or do you have to sometimes just deny it?

KAREN RASCHKE, MILITARY WIFE: You try and deny it, I think, as much as you can. You always know it's there. It's always in the back of your head. For me, I went through highs and lows. There were times when I wanted to know everything that was going on over there. There were other times when I just completely avoided the news, the newspaper, I just couldn't deal with any of it, and just preferred to stay busy with Emma, and doing other things to make the time pass.

OPPENHEIM: So tell me a little bit about this reunion, and as we can hear behind us, the concert that's happening today, do you feel like it's mixed emotions? Is it mostly happy, or is there some sadness in the background for you?

K. RASCHKE: Definitely mostly happy. It's celebration that we got them all back, but there's that little tinge, I think, of sadness of the ones that were lost.

OPPENHEIM: And you know people, Mark, who died in Iraq, isn't that right?

M. RASCHKE: Yes, when I was in 110 Cav (ph), they lost four good soldiers. And I was really good friends with one, Captain Leafnot (ph), a couple of others, Sergeant Turner (ph), Sergeant Bacon (ph). There are some great, great Americans who paid the ultimate sacrifice and my hat will always be off to those individuals.

OPPENHEIM: Right. So you keep that in mind, that as you're back here, there's a lot to be thankful for and it kind of all mixes together in your mind.

M. RASCHKE: There's a lot to be thankful for and there's a lot to be appreciative of, of those who made that sacrifice. It's just -- it just is -- it gets me speechless. I just can't fathom how that would affect our family.

OPPENHEIM: We'll end on that very poignant note. And I should point out, too, Kyra, that this young lady, not only has she been very well-behaved during this interview, but she seems comfortable in her father's arm. And we have seen kids, by the way, who have acted as if they just didn't know their fathers when they reunited with them yesterday, which is sometimes one of the hard things about being gone for so long as the Raschke family experience as well. Back to you.

PHILLIPS: Well, Keith, she knows dad and she knows the importance of a cell phone. It's all about communication. Thanks, Keith -- Miles.

O'BRIEN: President Bush and Senator John Kerry hit the campaign trail today. We'll check in on their whereabouts, what's on their agenda on this Earth Day.

Also this.

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UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I think it's extraordinarily ghoulish.

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O'BRIEN: Pictures of Princess Diana in her final moments. The broadcast of those images has her family and all of Britain crying foul.

And one man's prayer is another man's problem in one Michigan town. The debate when LIVE FROM... continues. Stay with us.

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JACK BURKMAN, ATTORNEY, GOP CONSULTANT: ... just because somebody has a faith, that doesn't mean we respect it. Islam, in my mind, has come to stand, in many ways, for nothing but violence. It started out 20 years ago as just a handful of crazies, guys like the ayatollah, on the fringe. But you know, today I look at this and I wonder, particularly as we have a war on American soil, if you had a tragedy in the United States again like 9/11 tomorrow, God forbid, how many people in the Islamic world -- what percentage of the Islamic world would cheer this?

The reality is, in an age where we have this war on terror, on American soil, it's sad, but we just can't be as free as we used to be. We just can't throw it wide open to everything. We have to have more of a crackdown and we have to pay attention to some of these things.

PHILLIPS: Ibrahim, is it a peaceful chant or is it a call to arms?

IBRAHIM HOOPER, COUNCIL OF AMERICAN ISLAMIC RELATIONS: Well, it's very disappointing when we hear this kind of bigotry displayed, that Islam is compared to the faith of Hitler and Stalin. This is what gets us into this downward spiral of hostility and mistrust. And I think allowing a call to prayer, which is a very reasonable thing, no different than a church bell, because those who hear it who are not Muslim are just going to hear sounds. They're not going to understand what it says. So it's very similar to a church bell.

This sends a positive message to the Muslim world that America accommodates its Muslim citizens and it defuses the kind of hatred that spread by people like Osama bin Laden. And I resent deeply the implication that all of Islam represents violence...

BURKMAN: I did not say all of Islam...

HOOPER: ... and hatred.

: I didn't say all of Islam. I said increasing amounts. Islam itself is a beautiful, wonderful ideology. The problem today is that very few people in the world practice that. And if you look at -- yes...

HOOPER: The reality of today is that...

BURKMAN: ... there are a billion practicing Muslims...

HOOPER: ... 99.9999 percent...

BURKMAN: ... but very few of them follow that.

PHILLIPS: All right. Jack, Jack, Ibrahim brings up a good point here. I mean, we're in a whole new environment now after 9/11. We're trying to be more multicultural, more understanding, understand the Muslim religion, the Muslim people. Isn't this just another sign that -- isn't this another barrier that's coming up between the two cultures?

BURKMAN: I don't think so. I think American leaders have bent over backward to show tolerance towards Islam. But that doesn't mean -- and this feeds into issues like racial profiling, that doesn't mean that you have to be blind to the reality that all of this trouble is coming from one religion in one part of the world. We're not having problems with the Buddhist religion. We're not having problems in the United States with the Hindu religion. We're not having problems with various African tribal religions. We're not having problems with any religion but one ideology and one so-called faith. And what that means is we must...

HOOPER: So-called faith? Perhaps we should warm up the gas chambers and the ovens and the concentration camps. That's the kind of ideology that you're promoting here.

BURKMAN: I'm promoting no such thing.

HOOPER: Hatred, perpetual hatred, perpetual conflict. This gives aid and comfort to people like Osama bin Laden.

BURKMAN: What my friend wants to do...

HOOPER: If you want to diffuse the hatred of people like Osama bin Laden, and undercut him, you show that America respects religious beliefs, respects religious tolerance. You don't promote bigotry and hatred.

BURKMAN: Kyra, what my friend is suggesting is that any time we have heightened scrutiny of Islam, and what's going on, and remember, we have war on our soil. He uses the word bigotry. The instant I suggest any form of heightened scrutiny -- we could be debating this or any...

HOOPER: I thought we were talking about...

BURKMAN: ... number of a dozen issues...

HOOPER: ... a call to prayer at a mosque...

PHILLIPS: All right. Let me ask -- Ibrahim, Ibrahim, I have listened to this chant that's coming out of the mosque in Detroit, in the suburb area, Hamtramck, and it says Allah is the only god. That's the chant. The chant is the only god. Now that is very different from church bells, Christian church bells, that ring on Sunday. That's just music. So there is a tremendous difference here.

HOOPER: The call to prayer is not an exclusionist kind of prayer, it says God is great. Do most people in America not believe God is great? It says come to prayer. Do most people in America not say, come to prayer? These are the kinds -- and the people who are not Muslim will not even understand what is being said here, it will be a sound no different than church bell.

BURKMAN: Kyra, part of the problem -- and it's a shame we've reached this point, but part of the problem is, with modern Islam, not the faith, not the scripture, not the theology, but modern Islam, the way it's practiced in many parts of the world, certainly the Mideast, is that it is becoming very, very difficult to distinguish between the faith and the theology and the political violence, call to arms. And America must be sensitive to that.

HOOPER: I think one problem you see people like my colleague here, not making any distinction between someone who is a terrorist and someone who is a faithful practitioner of Islam, and that's the problem...

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PHILLIPS: OK, I'm hearing -- Jack, Jack, you're talking about faith becoming a militant ideology here. Ibrahim is saying that is not true, everybody practices faith in a different way. I mean, you could take Christianity and say that there were a lot of people that took that in a militant -- we could go back to Waco, Texas, and talk about faith from the Christian perspective. But let me just quickly ask you guys, when you look at the Ten Commandments, OK, and this was not even allowed in the courthouse in Alabama, and this was a huge story, a big debate. Those Ten Commandments were taken out of that courthouse. You know, where do you define what's fair and what's not fair and freedom of...

HOOPER: By the way, the Muslim community is great believer in the Ten Commandments. We don't mind the Ten Commandments being put up. We follow the Ten Commandments...

PHILLIPS: But it was taken out.

BURKMAN: Kyra, your point is a good one and your point is that we do not in this country allow unlimited -- just an unlimited use -- pushing of religion into the public sector. And that was exactly the issue with the Ten Commandments. I think it's an excellent point because it shows how even-handed and tolerant the United States can be.

PHILLIPS: Final thoughts, Ibrahim?

HOOPER: Well, I think we're seeing here the kind of problem we're facing as Americans. We have voices out there calling for interfaith mistrust and hostility. And we have to fight those voices. We have to say that all religions in America will be respected and... BURKMAN: Let me...

HOOPER: ... and we are not going to allow ourselves to be drawn into the hatred promoted by people like Osama bin Laden my colleague here.

BURKMAN: Let me leave your viewers with this factual thought. And again, I ask this question to everyone. If there were a tragedy in the United States tomorrow on the order of 9/11, what percentage of the Muslim world would rejoice at that? And I ask that to every American.

HOOPER: I think a very tiny minority...

PHILLIPS: We've got to leave it there.

HOOPER: ... the vast majority would condemn it.

PHILLIPS: Ibrahim Hooper, Jack Burkman, interesting discussion, I hope we can visit it again, gentlemen. Thank you very much.

We're going to take a quick break, we'll be right back.

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O'BRIEN: It's April 22 and you know what that means, right? It's Earth Day. Did you send a card? It also happens to be April 22, 2004, which means it's Earth Day in an election year which makes it a prime opportunity for a little political mud-slinging.

This is a venue where some of that will occur. Candidate Kerry in President Bush's Texas backyard today, his visit to Houston, Texas on tap very shortly. Houston is the nation's fourth largest city and it rivals L.A. in terms of smog. It's expected he'll get in a few digs as he criticizes the Bush record on environmental issues.

Meanwhile, the president has headed to Maine to shore up his positions on the environment. CNN's John King in Wells, Maine, joining us with more on that. Hello, John.

JOHN KING, CNN SENIOR WHITE HOUSE CORRESPONDENT: Hello to you, Miles. Maine, of course, a home away from home for this president and the Bush family. And the president coming here to the Wells Reserve today to make the case that his administration has done its job and then some in preserving the environment. As you know, the Democrats of course taking issue with that on this election year Earth Day.

The president taking a tour here at the Reserve with a familiar face, his mother, Barbara Bush, the former first lady who lives nearby in Kennebunkport, Maine taking a tour with the president as he viewed some of the conversation efforts here in this wetlands, right along Maine's coast.

And the president then delivered a speech here marking Earth Day in which he said his administration was reversing a government policy that was simply designed to preserve wetlands, no net loss was the policy. The president said the policy now will be to expand the acres in the United States protected in wetlands areas.

And the president, in doing this, said his administration will come up with more money for the effort. But part of the president's case today was protecting and preserving the environment is not only the government's job.

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GEORGE W. BUSH, PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES: I've come here because this is a great example of people seizing the initiative, a great example of where the government can help, but not stand in the way of common sense policies that will make a significant difference to the wetlands and the native species and it sends a clear signal to everybody else around our country that if you want to be a responsible citizen, do something about the quality of the life in the community in which you live.

KING: After the speech, the President shaking some hands engaging in small conversation with many of the workers who work that the project here, this Reserve here. Then it's back to Washington for another environmental event back at the White House, Miles.

And as we said at the top, the Kerry campaign criticizing this president, mr. Bush making the case he does have a pro environment record. Some demonstrators on the street here as the president came in today. This is a campaign dominated by debates over the economy and by the president's policy in Iraq.

But on this Earth Day, the Democrats and Republicans, the Bush campaign and Kerry campaign, taking issue with each other over environmental policy -- Miles.

O'BRIEN: CNN's John King, in Wells, Maine. Thank you, very much.

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O'BRIEN: The British media, Fleet Street, known for their sensitivity and decorum -- not -- are outraged today. Last night, CBS' "48 Hours" aired paparazzi photos taken of Princess Diana as she lay dying in a Paris car crash seven years ago.

More understandably, Diana's brother, Lord Spencer. released a statement saying he and the family is shocked and sickened by CBS' actions.

And although no official comment has been made by Diana's sons, a former spokesman for Buckingham Palace told the BBC it's going to be painful for William and Harry.

Ken Wharfe, a former Diana bodyguard, was interviewed for the CBS program, but is critical of the network's decision to show the photos.

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) KEN WHARFE, FORMER BODYGUARD TO DIANA: William and Harry are two educated young men who will dismiss this out of hand and they won't wish to see it, they will not want to see it.

The actual picture, which I've seen, doesn't in any way support the program at all, I mean, you know it doesn't serve any purpose, other than pure sensationalism and I think that it will offend a lot of Americans, as it probably will offend a great deal of people over here as well.

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PHILLIPS: New medical research suggests just the smell of food could have a major impact on the brain's chemistry. In fact it could very well have links to desire and addiction. CNN medical correspondent Dr. Sanjay Gupta explains.

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SANJAY GUPTA, CNN MEDICAL CORRESPONDENT: New research out saying that smelling and tasting food but not eating it can lead to some very specific changes in the brain, changes that are associated with desire and with addiction similar to cocaine. Very interesting study. A small study, really, one of the first of its kind.

Looking at 12 patients, 12 participants here, all of them hungry, they hadn't eaten in 17 hours. They were all given a chance to smell and taste their favorite foods, Cinnabuns, pizza, ice cream, brownies, things like that. Then, after that, they were taken to the PET scanner to get their brains imaged, to see what their brains looked like. See the top row now. The top row is what their brains looks like when they are given the food stimulation. They smell it, they taste it, but they can't eat it. Several areas of the brain lighting up there, most importantly, those areas in the front.

Bottom row, no food stimulation. You don't see that sort of same areas of the brain lighting up. Let me show you specifically what I mean on this brain model. Areas in here, in the frontal lobe, and over here, in the top part of what's known as the temporal lobe, are associated with addiction, desire and cravings. Those areas lighting up more in those patients who were stimulated by food than those patients who are not. I mentioned cocaine earlier.

They did do some studies as part of the study, as well, to try and figure out: Is there is a relationship? Is there a similarity, between food stimulation and cocaine stimulation? Take a look at these two PET scans, now. On the left, these are just people who were allowed to think about food, smell it, taste it. That's on the left, that area in the front of the brain, again, bright yellow, really important. Possibly an area of the brain responsible for addiction. On the right, now, the whole brain lights up. But in that front part, again, bright yellow, even brighter yellow. That's when someone who is a cocaine addict is thinking about cocaine. So what does this mean? Well, again, this could be one of the first studies that show food could be addictive. We talk about overweight problems, we talk about obesity problems, so much in this country, well, this could be the first study showing food in fact can be addiction.

It can also be a gateway substance, meaning someone who has compulsive cravings for food could subsequently use those cravings for other things, perhaps illicit substances. There's also the whole notion these cravings can lead to other addictions later on in life and that you become more vulnerable to bad habits.

Interestingly as well, we are constantly bombarded by all sorts of advertising, food advertising on television. You see candy machines everywhere. Certainly, those things, according to this study, may foster more of an addiction for food as well. Interesting findings.

Dr. Sanjay Gupta, CNN, Atlanta.

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PHILLIPS: Straight ahead, Madonna's done it, so has Billy Crystal, Robin Williams, and a host of other celebs. Find out what it is when LIVE FROM... continues.

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PHILLIPS: He's just 2-years-old, but already rubbing elbows with the rich and famous.

O'BRIEN: And as our Jeanne Moos shows us, the New York toddler has the pictures to prove it.

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JEANNE MOOS, CNN CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): He may be just learning to talk.

JEREMY ZOREK: Uh-oh. Nice.

MOOS: But somehow he's managed to talk his way into dozens of celebrity photo-ops. From Leno to Billy Crystal to Robin Williams to Halle Berry.

MICHAEL ZOREK, JEREMY'S DAD: It's not the best picture of Jeremy but she looks beautiful.

MOOS: Jeremy's dad posts them all on the Web site whoisthatwithjeremy.com.

J. ZOREK: Who's that?

M. ZOREK: That's G. Gordon Liddy.

MOOS: From Watergate to Playboy, sorry, Hef, Jeremy is a boy who plays, not a playboy. Back in the '80s Jeremy's dad was an actor. In a dress, in a mohawk. Now his son's posing with actors like 007, singers like Billy Joel. They run into celebs on the street, go to dozens of book signings. Jeremy's most photographed moment was with none other than Madonna. (on camera): So are you doing it for fun?

Do you want to have a show biz career?

M. ZOREK: It's for fun. It's for fun. He models. Which is fine. But none of this...

J. ZOREK: Mommy! Mommy!

MOOS (voice-over): We tagged along when Jeremy lined up to meet Danny Aiello signing his new CD.

M. ZOREK: Can you say hi Danny Aiello.

J. ZOREK: Hi Danny Aiello.

M. ZOREK: This is my son Jeremy.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Hey, Jeremy.

M. ZOREK: Can I get a photograph?

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Sure.

MOOS: A few say no. Among them Mikhail Gorbachev and Paul McCartney. Though Ringo posed.

(on camera): Can you say P. Diddy.

J. ZOREK: P. Diddy.

MOOS (voice-over): From rapper, to former president, there's even a parody Web site now. Who is that eating Jeremy? And someone photo swabbed Jeremy's head onto Michael Jackson's dangling baby. Once in awhile Jeremy fuss.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: One more for the road.

M. ZOREK: He likes -- if you know the ABC song he likes that better.

J. ZOREK: ABCD.

MOOS: This kid's too cool to drool on a celebrity. Makes posing with Santa seem quaint.

Jeanne Moos, CNN, New York.

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O'BRIEN: Man's best friend making headlines today. Well, maybe "headlines" is a strong word. But take our word for it, these dog stories don't stink. The rough details after a break. Or a pause if you will.

(COMMERCIAL BREAK) O'BRIEN: And before we leave you in this hour, let's check in with the dog desk. Kyra Phillips manning that desk. Some of the best dog-goned stories we've seen in a while, as a matter fact.

Ever heard of a cat on a hot tin roof? Sure you have. But in Raleigh, North Carolina, a pup gets the upper paw? Trixie must like the view up there. See it? And the locals are properly amused. But we must wonder does Trixie conduct all of her business up there? If so, please, duck.

Moving right along, the moving story of Sophie and Bean. Now, Bean had been grabbed headfirst by a gator in her Houston backyard. But her pal Sophie wasn't having any of it. There's Sophie. Sophie grabbed Bean's hind leg, held on for dear life, while the dog's owner pelted the pesky reptile with a 20-pound chunk of concrete. Good thing she had that nearby, I always keep one nearby in the yard, too. The gator left with a few bruises, instead of a meal of Bean. Now, Bean was left with quite a scar, but naturally, quite a friend in Sophie. A dog's best friend--a dog.

PHILLIPS: Finally a little something for you dog-lovers like me whose favorite furry friend is afflicted by -- oh man, flatulence. Why did I have to say that? Why me? We should have just said gas.

O'BRIEN: I always said you were an old fart.

PHILLIPS: Oh, one Frank Brosky (ph) has developed a product to reduce the odor of canine emissions. Charcoal-lined panties for pooches that poot. Well you can imagine trying to get those on your own dog, well you should know, the company already makes a version for humans. Oh, I can really go far with that.

O'BRIEN: When's your birthday? Because I have just the gift for you on this Earth Day...

PHILLIPS: Oh, you know that's so not right.

O'BRIEN: ... I want to send along to you...

PHILLIPS: If you all only knew.

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PHILLIPS: All right. Coming up in the next hour of LIVE FROM..., presidential hopeful John Kerry's Earth Day remarks from Houston, Texas.

O'BRIEN: Live pictures from that site right now. This is part of the lengthy introduction. I believe this is about the eighth person doing introductions, but such is the nature of political events. As soon as the candidate takes the podium, we'll bring it to you live. Stay with us for that and more as LIVE FROM... continues.

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PHILLIPS: Hi, everyone, I'm Kyra Phillips, welcome back to the second hour of LIVE FROM.

O'BRIEN: I'm Miles O'Brien, we're glad you're with us. Let's go live right away to Houston, Texas. Senator John Kerry, the presumptive Democratic nominee running for President begins shortly his speech on this Earth Day. A combination of the environment and politics coming into play today.

We heard from President Bush just a little while ago in Wells, Maine, not far from the summer home for the Bush family. Let's listen to John Kerry now, who's chosen Houston because of its rather checkered record with clean air and smog. Let's listen in.

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