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Trial Date Set for Jackson Molestation Case
Aired May 28, 2004 - 13:34 ET
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THIS IS A RUSH TRANSCRIPT. THIS COPY MAY NOT BE IN ITS FINAL FORM AND MAY BE UPDATED.
MILES O'BRIEN, CNN ANCHOR: Now to the Michael Jackson child molestation case. The trial days is now penciled in. It was one of the items at issue at a hearing in Santa Maria, California today.
Miguel Marquez outside the courthouse with an update for us.
Hello, Miguel.
MIGUEL MARQUEZ, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Hello, how are you.
The big news out of here today, I suppose, is a trial date has been set, although we don't know exactly how good this trial date set. September 13, 2004, is when Mr. Jackson could be here in Santa Maria to face charges of child molestation and conspiracy. The judge set that date today, saying that it was a bull's eye they were going to shoot for, not the actual trial date. He realizes there's a lot of material out there to discuss before they ever get to a trial. They discussed some of that material today. Mr. Jackson's lawyers in court, and the prosecution going back and forth, indicating throughout the day that there are some 400 items of evidence that was obtained by search warrants of Mr. Jackson's properties, storage facilities and various individuals who he is familiar with.
There's also 105 items of grand jury testimony or evidence that the defense also wants access to. The prosecution saying that they have turned over at this point 2,200 pages of documents to the defense, 69 audiotapes, two videotapes and one CD-ROM. But the defense says there is a lot more out there that they want.
The other thing that the defense was going after today was the motion to reduce bail. They want that $3 million bail that Mr. Jackson was facing reduced. They said that his prior counsel failed to object to that excessive bail, saying that -- quoting the Santa Barbara bail guidelines at one point, Thomas Mesereau, Mr. Jackson's attorney, said that a person who uses weapons of mass destruction or is accused of using weapons of mass destruction to kill a person would only face $1 million bail in Santa Barbara County, so $3 million is way too much. The prosecutor responding that $3 million is three one- thousandths of what Mr. Jackson is worth. And he's a self-proclaimed billionaire, and sort of described as $3 million is what Mr. Jackson would spend on a weekend in Las Vegas.
The judge did not rule on whether or not he's going to reduce bail yet. They are in an in-camera hearing, or in judge's chambers right now. We expect to hear a little bit more before this day is over -- Miles.
O'BRIEN: CNN's Miguel Marquez, thank you very much -- Fredricka.
FREDRICKA WHITFIELD, CNN ANCHOR: Well, Miles, coming out in Jackson's defense, actor Macaulay Caulkin. He's a long-time friend of Jackson. He spoke to Larry King last night about one of the most controversial aspects of Jackson's lifestyle, the sleepovers he hosted at Neverland.
(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)
LARRY KING, "LARRY KING LIVE" HOST: What happened at the house? That's what all these things -- people are concerned about.
MACAULAY CAULKIN, ACTOR: That's what's so weird, you know.
KING: What did happen?
CAULKIN: Nothing happened, you know, I mean, nothing, really. We played video games, you know. We, you know, played at the amusement park.
Well, the thing is with that whole thing is that, they go, oh, you slept in the same bedroom as him. It's like, I don't think you understand. Michael Jackson's bedroom is two stories, and it has like three bathrooms and this and that. So when I slept in his bedroom, it's like, yes, but you have to understand the whole scenario, and the thing is with Michael, is that he's not very good at explaining himself, and he never really has been, because he's not a very social person. I mean, you're talking about someone who has been sheltered, and sheltering himself also for the last 30 years. And so he's not very good at communicating to people, not very good at conveying what he's actually trying to say to you. And so when he says something like that, you know, people -- you know, he doesn't quite understand why people react the way that they do.
(END VIDEO CLIP)
WHITFIELD: Well, Caulkin went on to say, he believes Jackson has been falsely accused, and he says the case has not been turned into a -- quote -- "circus." More LIVE FROM, when we come right back.
(COMMERCIAL BREAK)
WHITFIELD: Well, now to the threat of terrorism on American soil. U.S. officials say intelligence suggests that al Qaeda may strike the U.S. in an effort to influence the upcoming elections. Still, officials are not saying what al Qaeda's objectives are.
CNN's Kelli Arena spoke with some terror experts to get their take.
(BEGIN VIDEOTAPE)
KELLI ARENA, CNN JUSTICE CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): Terror experts say it's not about who wins the U.S. election, it's about impact. M.J. GOHEL, ASIA-PACIFIC FOUNDATION: If, for instance, say, George Bush was in the lead in the opinion polls right now and an attack took place and that changes the equation as it did, for instance in Spain, then al Qaeda would feel that it has scored a major success.
ARENA: Al Qaeda affiliates attacked Spain just before its elections in March. Some suggests that cemented an overwhelming win for the socialist party.
ASHCROFT: We believe, for example, the attack in Spain is one that is viewed by al Qaeda as particularly effective in advancing al Qaeda objectives.
ARENA: The attack did result in Spain pulling its troops out of Iraq. Experts say the less Western influence in Iraq, the better for al Qaeda.
GOHEL: Iraq is a key battleground for the terrorists. The terrorists want to turn Iraq into another Taliban Afghanistan. They would like to see the premature withdrawal of the U.S.-led coalition forces.
ARENA: Neither John Kerry nor the president has said troops pulled out of Iraq any time soon. But there is some speculation that al Qaeda believes it has a better chance of winning in Iraq if John Kerry is in the White House.
BEN VENZKE, INTELCENTER: Al Qaeda feels that Bush is, even despite casualties, right or wrong for staying there is going to stay much longer than possibly what they might hope a Democratic administration would.
Kelli Arena, CNN, Washington.
(END VIDEOTAPE)
O'BRIEN: The shape, the face, the strategy of al Qaeda, we have talked a lot about it this past week as the government issues new warnings and warrants. And yet, we often wonder how much we really know about the terror group, their numbers, their organization, their intent. Our next guest is as well equipped as anyone to assess al Qaeda such as it is today. The "Author of Understanding Terror Networks," Marc Sageman, is a former CIA operative. He joins us now from Philadelphia.
Dr. Sageman, good to have you with us.
DR. MARC SAGEMAN, AUTHOR, "UNDERSTANDING TERROR NETWORKS": Good afternoon, Miles.
O'BRIEN: First of all, tell us what we know about just outright numbers of al Qaeda membership today.
SAGEMAN: It's very hard to estimate how many people really are in al Qaeda. I just looked at the IISS report, saying that 18,000 potential terrorists worldwide. They estimated this by thinking that there were about 20,000 people who trained in Afghanistan, and then subtracted 2,000 people that were eliminated either through being killed or arrested. And came up with 18,000.
In fact, only about 15 percent to 25 percent of people who went to Afghanistan were invited to join al Qaeda. So that makes the number now 3,000 to 5,000. And if you again subtract the 2,000 that were either killed or captured, now you have about 1,000 to 3,000, which is probably right.
O'BRIEN: So many attempt to join al Qaeda. Fewer are actually called to the task. It's sort of, within the world of terror, elite?
SAGEMAN: Yes, absolutely.
O'BRIEN: All right, so how does that change then the way the U.S. and others who are fighting terror, how does it change their strategy?
SAGEMAN: Well, al Qaeda is often thought of as a formal hierarchal organization with clear lines of command, and that's not the case. Al Qaeda is more of a network. If you think about the Internet, that's really what al Qaeda looks like. You have some notes in the Internet like, for instance, Google or Amazon that are very popular and have a lot of influence, but it's really small clusters of groups loosely connected to each other.
O'BRIEN: And they're really bound together perhaps more by ideas and philosophy than orders and money?
SAGEMAN: That's exactly right. All of them want to bring back the mythical state of Islamic community that existed at the time of the prophet. They called those the "Salaf (ph)," the old ones, the ancient one. And the hope is that it would create a fair and just society, and that's what they're all about.
O'BRIEN: This past week, when the FBI and the Justice Department released the names and pictures of seven suspected al Qaeda terrorists who might in fact be operating or attempting to operate in the United States, I think maybe many of us might have had the assumption that they were somehow connected to each other, might have been operating as a cell. Is that a fair assumption? And when we say operating as a cell, how much communication might they have if they were doing that?
SAGEMAN: No, actually, in fact, they were all separate, except two. The woman from Massachusetts seemed to have known perhaps the fellow from Florida, Shakri Druma (ph). The other were totally unconnected. One came from south Florida, the other from Canada. So probably just two knew each other. I don't think they're connected at all, and they were already well-known figures to us.
O'BRIEN: I guess what this does raise, though, is a question of strategy in fighting the war on terror. If the strategy on the U.S. side is to try to get terrorist members of al Qaeda, you're never going to win that battle, because there will always be new members, new recruits willing to join the cause. SAGEMAN: That's exactly right. Arresting all the present members of al Qaeda really is trivial compared to the task of preventing the next generation from joining. And those people will join to actually fulfill an idea. So the way to fight al Qaeda, the crucial strategy, is really what is called a war of ideas.
O'BRIEN: And the war of ideas is not as easily fought, is it.
SAGEMAN: No, it's not. Because it depends how the target audience accepts those ideas. The way to fight it is to, first of all, to legitimatize the ideas of al Qaeda, show that their concept of killing innocent civilians is really a distortion of Islam. And the other is to promote a positive vision of what we can substitute, the vision of the Salaf, which would be a vision of a world where people would live independently, prosper together, but in harmony, as opposed to at war with each other.
O'BRIEN: Marc Sageman is the author of "Understanding Terror Networks." He joins us from Philadelphia.
Thanks for your time. We appreciate it.
SAGEMAN: Thank you.
O'BRIEN: Fredricka.
WHITFIELD: Well, still to come on CNN LIVE FROM, bat boys better beware, some friendly competition is trotting out on the field, and he just might have the bark to put some people out of business.
(COMMERCIAL BREAK)
WHITFIELD: Here's a question for you. What has four legs, a wet nose and absolutely loves fetching, of all things, baseball bats? If you're stumped, fear not. CNN's Jeanne Moos steps up to the plate and unlocks this canine mystery.
(BEGIN VIDEOTAPE)
JEANNE MOOS, CNN CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): Down, bat boy, down. Here comes the bat dog. Batting averages aside, there's nothing average about having a dog pick up bats.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Pretty cool.
MOOS: This is the second full season that Chase...
UNIDENTIFIED CHILDREN: Chase, Chase, Chase!
MOOS: Has served as bat dog for the Trenton Thunder, the Yankees AA farm team.
Trying to impress George Steinbrenner, huh?
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Hey, even Derek Jeter.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Good boy.
MOOS: Doesn't get his own pool at the stadium to cool off between innings.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Go get the bat. Go get it.
MOOS: You don't have to worry about bike marks on the bats?
RICK BRENNER, GEN. MANAGER, TRENTON THUNDER: Golden retrievers are a very soft-mouthed dog. As a breed, they're used for hunting and retrieving birds. You don't want puncture marks in the birds.
MOOS: Chase lives with general manager Rick Brenner, though a professional dog trainer trained him.
STUMP MERRILL, TRENTON THUNDER MANAGER: We enjoy him in the clubhouse. How he's almost one of us.
MOOS: Just like the bat boy, Chase brings water in a basket to the umpires. He only fetches bats in the first inning.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: He's pretty good at it.
MOOS: Is he?
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Yes.
MOOS: Better than you?
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I don't know. We'll see to that.
MOOS: Chase committed no errors though he sometimes moves his mouth to avoid the pine tar players use to grip the bat. He also catches frisbees.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: That a boy!
MOOS: And even caters to the press, fetching microphones on cue. The club sells his image on bats and T-shirts. Chase is already a stuffed animal. And they're making a bobblehead of him. What dog wouldn't want to hear...
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Play ball!
MOOS: And though he doesn't bite the bats.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: A little slobber, maybe.
MOOS: In this game, slobber is a plus. Jeanne Moos, CNN, Trenton, New Jersey.
(END VIDEOTAPE)
(MARKET UPDATE)
O'BRIEN: Thousands of people heading to the airport to celebrate this holiday weekend. Coming up in our next hour of LIVE FROM..., we'll show you how long lines might damper some of that fun. Seatbacks and tray tables in their upright and locked position will soon arrive at the busiest airport in America.
(COMMERCIAL BREAK)
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Aired May 28, 2004 - 13:34 ET
THIS IS A RUSH TRANSCRIPT. THIS COPY MAY NOT BE IN ITS FINAL FORM AND MAY BE UPDATED.
MILES O'BRIEN, CNN ANCHOR: Now to the Michael Jackson child molestation case. The trial days is now penciled in. It was one of the items at issue at a hearing in Santa Maria, California today.
Miguel Marquez outside the courthouse with an update for us.
Hello, Miguel.
MIGUEL MARQUEZ, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Hello, how are you.
The big news out of here today, I suppose, is a trial date has been set, although we don't know exactly how good this trial date set. September 13, 2004, is when Mr. Jackson could be here in Santa Maria to face charges of child molestation and conspiracy. The judge set that date today, saying that it was a bull's eye they were going to shoot for, not the actual trial date. He realizes there's a lot of material out there to discuss before they ever get to a trial. They discussed some of that material today. Mr. Jackson's lawyers in court, and the prosecution going back and forth, indicating throughout the day that there are some 400 items of evidence that was obtained by search warrants of Mr. Jackson's properties, storage facilities and various individuals who he is familiar with.
There's also 105 items of grand jury testimony or evidence that the defense also wants access to. The prosecution saying that they have turned over at this point 2,200 pages of documents to the defense, 69 audiotapes, two videotapes and one CD-ROM. But the defense says there is a lot more out there that they want.
The other thing that the defense was going after today was the motion to reduce bail. They want that $3 million bail that Mr. Jackson was facing reduced. They said that his prior counsel failed to object to that excessive bail, saying that -- quoting the Santa Barbara bail guidelines at one point, Thomas Mesereau, Mr. Jackson's attorney, said that a person who uses weapons of mass destruction or is accused of using weapons of mass destruction to kill a person would only face $1 million bail in Santa Barbara County, so $3 million is way too much. The prosecutor responding that $3 million is three one- thousandths of what Mr. Jackson is worth. And he's a self-proclaimed billionaire, and sort of described as $3 million is what Mr. Jackson would spend on a weekend in Las Vegas.
The judge did not rule on whether or not he's going to reduce bail yet. They are in an in-camera hearing, or in judge's chambers right now. We expect to hear a little bit more before this day is over -- Miles.
O'BRIEN: CNN's Miguel Marquez, thank you very much -- Fredricka.
FREDRICKA WHITFIELD, CNN ANCHOR: Well, Miles, coming out in Jackson's defense, actor Macaulay Caulkin. He's a long-time friend of Jackson. He spoke to Larry King last night about one of the most controversial aspects of Jackson's lifestyle, the sleepovers he hosted at Neverland.
(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)
LARRY KING, "LARRY KING LIVE" HOST: What happened at the house? That's what all these things -- people are concerned about.
MACAULAY CAULKIN, ACTOR: That's what's so weird, you know.
KING: What did happen?
CAULKIN: Nothing happened, you know, I mean, nothing, really. We played video games, you know. We, you know, played at the amusement park.
Well, the thing is with that whole thing is that, they go, oh, you slept in the same bedroom as him. It's like, I don't think you understand. Michael Jackson's bedroom is two stories, and it has like three bathrooms and this and that. So when I slept in his bedroom, it's like, yes, but you have to understand the whole scenario, and the thing is with Michael, is that he's not very good at explaining himself, and he never really has been, because he's not a very social person. I mean, you're talking about someone who has been sheltered, and sheltering himself also for the last 30 years. And so he's not very good at communicating to people, not very good at conveying what he's actually trying to say to you. And so when he says something like that, you know, people -- you know, he doesn't quite understand why people react the way that they do.
(END VIDEO CLIP)
WHITFIELD: Well, Caulkin went on to say, he believes Jackson has been falsely accused, and he says the case has not been turned into a -- quote -- "circus." More LIVE FROM, when we come right back.
(COMMERCIAL BREAK)
WHITFIELD: Well, now to the threat of terrorism on American soil. U.S. officials say intelligence suggests that al Qaeda may strike the U.S. in an effort to influence the upcoming elections. Still, officials are not saying what al Qaeda's objectives are.
CNN's Kelli Arena spoke with some terror experts to get their take.
(BEGIN VIDEOTAPE)
KELLI ARENA, CNN JUSTICE CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): Terror experts say it's not about who wins the U.S. election, it's about impact. M.J. GOHEL, ASIA-PACIFIC FOUNDATION: If, for instance, say, George Bush was in the lead in the opinion polls right now and an attack took place and that changes the equation as it did, for instance in Spain, then al Qaeda would feel that it has scored a major success.
ARENA: Al Qaeda affiliates attacked Spain just before its elections in March. Some suggests that cemented an overwhelming win for the socialist party.
ASHCROFT: We believe, for example, the attack in Spain is one that is viewed by al Qaeda as particularly effective in advancing al Qaeda objectives.
ARENA: The attack did result in Spain pulling its troops out of Iraq. Experts say the less Western influence in Iraq, the better for al Qaeda.
GOHEL: Iraq is a key battleground for the terrorists. The terrorists want to turn Iraq into another Taliban Afghanistan. They would like to see the premature withdrawal of the U.S.-led coalition forces.
ARENA: Neither John Kerry nor the president has said troops pulled out of Iraq any time soon. But there is some speculation that al Qaeda believes it has a better chance of winning in Iraq if John Kerry is in the White House.
BEN VENZKE, INTELCENTER: Al Qaeda feels that Bush is, even despite casualties, right or wrong for staying there is going to stay much longer than possibly what they might hope a Democratic administration would.
Kelli Arena, CNN, Washington.
(END VIDEOTAPE)
O'BRIEN: The shape, the face, the strategy of al Qaeda, we have talked a lot about it this past week as the government issues new warnings and warrants. And yet, we often wonder how much we really know about the terror group, their numbers, their organization, their intent. Our next guest is as well equipped as anyone to assess al Qaeda such as it is today. The "Author of Understanding Terror Networks," Marc Sageman, is a former CIA operative. He joins us now from Philadelphia.
Dr. Sageman, good to have you with us.
DR. MARC SAGEMAN, AUTHOR, "UNDERSTANDING TERROR NETWORKS": Good afternoon, Miles.
O'BRIEN: First of all, tell us what we know about just outright numbers of al Qaeda membership today.
SAGEMAN: It's very hard to estimate how many people really are in al Qaeda. I just looked at the IISS report, saying that 18,000 potential terrorists worldwide. They estimated this by thinking that there were about 20,000 people who trained in Afghanistan, and then subtracted 2,000 people that were eliminated either through being killed or arrested. And came up with 18,000.
In fact, only about 15 percent to 25 percent of people who went to Afghanistan were invited to join al Qaeda. So that makes the number now 3,000 to 5,000. And if you again subtract the 2,000 that were either killed or captured, now you have about 1,000 to 3,000, which is probably right.
O'BRIEN: So many attempt to join al Qaeda. Fewer are actually called to the task. It's sort of, within the world of terror, elite?
SAGEMAN: Yes, absolutely.
O'BRIEN: All right, so how does that change then the way the U.S. and others who are fighting terror, how does it change their strategy?
SAGEMAN: Well, al Qaeda is often thought of as a formal hierarchal organization with clear lines of command, and that's not the case. Al Qaeda is more of a network. If you think about the Internet, that's really what al Qaeda looks like. You have some notes in the Internet like, for instance, Google or Amazon that are very popular and have a lot of influence, but it's really small clusters of groups loosely connected to each other.
O'BRIEN: And they're really bound together perhaps more by ideas and philosophy than orders and money?
SAGEMAN: That's exactly right. All of them want to bring back the mythical state of Islamic community that existed at the time of the prophet. They called those the "Salaf (ph)," the old ones, the ancient one. And the hope is that it would create a fair and just society, and that's what they're all about.
O'BRIEN: This past week, when the FBI and the Justice Department released the names and pictures of seven suspected al Qaeda terrorists who might in fact be operating or attempting to operate in the United States, I think maybe many of us might have had the assumption that they were somehow connected to each other, might have been operating as a cell. Is that a fair assumption? And when we say operating as a cell, how much communication might they have if they were doing that?
SAGEMAN: No, actually, in fact, they were all separate, except two. The woman from Massachusetts seemed to have known perhaps the fellow from Florida, Shakri Druma (ph). The other were totally unconnected. One came from south Florida, the other from Canada. So probably just two knew each other. I don't think they're connected at all, and they were already well-known figures to us.
O'BRIEN: I guess what this does raise, though, is a question of strategy in fighting the war on terror. If the strategy on the U.S. side is to try to get terrorist members of al Qaeda, you're never going to win that battle, because there will always be new members, new recruits willing to join the cause. SAGEMAN: That's exactly right. Arresting all the present members of al Qaeda really is trivial compared to the task of preventing the next generation from joining. And those people will join to actually fulfill an idea. So the way to fight al Qaeda, the crucial strategy, is really what is called a war of ideas.
O'BRIEN: And the war of ideas is not as easily fought, is it.
SAGEMAN: No, it's not. Because it depends how the target audience accepts those ideas. The way to fight it is to, first of all, to legitimatize the ideas of al Qaeda, show that their concept of killing innocent civilians is really a distortion of Islam. And the other is to promote a positive vision of what we can substitute, the vision of the Salaf, which would be a vision of a world where people would live independently, prosper together, but in harmony, as opposed to at war with each other.
O'BRIEN: Marc Sageman is the author of "Understanding Terror Networks." He joins us from Philadelphia.
Thanks for your time. We appreciate it.
SAGEMAN: Thank you.
O'BRIEN: Fredricka.
WHITFIELD: Well, still to come on CNN LIVE FROM, bat boys better beware, some friendly competition is trotting out on the field, and he just might have the bark to put some people out of business.
(COMMERCIAL BREAK)
WHITFIELD: Here's a question for you. What has four legs, a wet nose and absolutely loves fetching, of all things, baseball bats? If you're stumped, fear not. CNN's Jeanne Moos steps up to the plate and unlocks this canine mystery.
(BEGIN VIDEOTAPE)
JEANNE MOOS, CNN CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): Down, bat boy, down. Here comes the bat dog. Batting averages aside, there's nothing average about having a dog pick up bats.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Pretty cool.
MOOS: This is the second full season that Chase...
UNIDENTIFIED CHILDREN: Chase, Chase, Chase!
MOOS: Has served as bat dog for the Trenton Thunder, the Yankees AA farm team.
Trying to impress George Steinbrenner, huh?
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Hey, even Derek Jeter.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Good boy.
MOOS: Doesn't get his own pool at the stadium to cool off between innings.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Go get the bat. Go get it.
MOOS: You don't have to worry about bike marks on the bats?
RICK BRENNER, GEN. MANAGER, TRENTON THUNDER: Golden retrievers are a very soft-mouthed dog. As a breed, they're used for hunting and retrieving birds. You don't want puncture marks in the birds.
MOOS: Chase lives with general manager Rick Brenner, though a professional dog trainer trained him.
STUMP MERRILL, TRENTON THUNDER MANAGER: We enjoy him in the clubhouse. How he's almost one of us.
MOOS: Just like the bat boy, Chase brings water in a basket to the umpires. He only fetches bats in the first inning.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: He's pretty good at it.
MOOS: Is he?
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Yes.
MOOS: Better than you?
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I don't know. We'll see to that.
MOOS: Chase committed no errors though he sometimes moves his mouth to avoid the pine tar players use to grip the bat. He also catches frisbees.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: That a boy!
MOOS: And even caters to the press, fetching microphones on cue. The club sells his image on bats and T-shirts. Chase is already a stuffed animal. And they're making a bobblehead of him. What dog wouldn't want to hear...
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Play ball!
MOOS: And though he doesn't bite the bats.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: A little slobber, maybe.
MOOS: In this game, slobber is a plus. Jeanne Moos, CNN, Trenton, New Jersey.
(END VIDEOTAPE)
(MARKET UPDATE)
O'BRIEN: Thousands of people heading to the airport to celebrate this holiday weekend. Coming up in our next hour of LIVE FROM..., we'll show you how long lines might damper some of that fun. Seatbacks and tray tables in their upright and locked position will soon arrive at the busiest airport in America.
(COMMERCIAL BREAK)
TO ORDER A VIDEO OF THIS TRANSCRIPT, PLEASE CALL 800-CNN-NEWS OR USE OUR SECURE ONLINE ORDER FORM LOCATED AT www.fdch.com
