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Radio Record Paints Chilling 9/11 Picture

Aired June 17, 2004 - 15:00   ET

THIS IS A RUSH TRANSCRIPT. THIS COPY MAY NOT BE IN ITS FINAL FORM AND MAY BE UPDATED.


THIS IS A RUSH TRANSCRIPT. THIS COPY MAY NOT BE IN ITS FINAL FORM AND MAY BE UPDATED.


MILES O'BRIEN, CNN ANCHOR: Checking the stories we're watching at this hour:
A top Iraqi official says a deadly bombing in Baghdad likely the work of notorious terrorist Abu Musab Zarqawi. At least 35 killed and nearly 150 wounded in the attack at an Iraqi army recruitment center.

President Bush insisting again today Saddam Hussein's Iraq had a long-standing relationship with Osama bin Laden's al Qaeda. That puts him at odds with the 9/11 commission, which yesterday reported Iraq and al Qaeda it felt each other out so to speak, but never worked together.

And a Muslim colleague of American Paul Johnson is appealing for Johnson's release. The Lockheed worker was kidnapped Saturday in Saudi Arabia and his abductors have threatened to kill him. In an open letter posted to a radical Islamist Web site, the unnamed colleague said he had vowed to protect Johnson, saying that harming Johnson would, thus, be a crime.

KYRA PHILLIPS, CNN ANCHOR: Up first this hour, 9/11 from the inside out.

The final day of the final public hearing of the 9/11 commission gave rise to highly dramatic, even chilling accounts and conclusions, many of which we'd never heard before.

(BEGIN VIDEOTAPE)

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: The controller told his supervisor that thought something was seriously wrong with the plane. At this point, neither the controller nor his supervisor suspected a hijacking. At 8:24:38, the following transmission came from American 11.

(BEGIN AUDIO CLIP)

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: We have some planes. Just stay quiet and you'll be OK. We're returning to the airport.

(END AUDIO CLIP)

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: The next transmission came seconds later.

(BEGIN AUDIO CLIP)

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Nobody move. Everything will be OK. If you try to make any moves, you'll endanger yourself and the airplane. Just say quiet.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Hearing that transmission, the controller told us he then knew it was a hijacking. At 8:34, the Boston Center controller received a third transmission from American 11.

(BEGIN AUDIO CLIP)

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Nobody move please. We are going back to the airport. Don't try to make any stupid moves.

(END AUDIO CLIP)

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Meanwhile, the manager from Boston Center reported that they had deciphered what they had heard in one of the first hijacker transmissions from American 11.

(BEGIN AUDIO CLIP)

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: You still there?

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Yes, I am.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I'm going to reconfirm with downstairs the, as far as the tape, seemed to think if the guy said that "we have planes." Now, I don't know if it was because it was the accent, or if there's more than one, but I'm going to reconfirm that for you and I'll get back to you real quick, OK?

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Appreciate it.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Planes as in plural. It sounds like we're talking in New York that there's another one aimed at the World Trade Center.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: There's another aircraft?

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: A second one just hit the Trade Center.

(END AUDIO CLIP)

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: At 8:37:52, Boston Center reached NEADS. This was the first notification received by the military at any level that American 11 had been hijacked.

(BEGIN AUDIO CLIP)

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Hi Boston Center TMU, we have a problem here. We have a hijacked aircraft headed towards New York and we need you guys to -- we need someone to scramble some F-16s or something up there, help us out.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Is this real-world or exercise?

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: No, this is not an exercise, not a test. (END AUDIO CLIP)

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Shortly after 8:50, while NEADS personnel were still trying to locate American 11, word reached them that a plane had hit the World Trade Center.

(BEGIN AUDIO CLIP)

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: We got several situations going on here. It's escalating big time, and we need to get the military involved with this.

(END AUDIO CLIP)

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Between 9:34 and 9:38, the controller observed climbing to 40,700 feet and immediately moved several aircraft out of its way. The controller continued to try to contact United 93 and asked whether the pilot could confirm that he had been hijacked. There was no response.

Then, at 9:39, a fifth radio transmission came over the radio frequency from United 93.

(BEGIN AUDIO CLIP)

ZIAD JARRAH, 9/11 HIJACKER: This is your captain. Would like you all to remain seated. There is a bomb aboard and are going back to the airport and to have our demands (UNINTELLIGIBLE). Please remain quiet.

(END AUDIO CLIP)

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: At 9:46 and again two minutes later, command center updated FAA headquarters that United 93 was now -- quote -- "29 minutes out of the Washington, D.C." -- end quote.

(BEGIN AUDIO CLIP)

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Do we want to think about scrambling aircraft?

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Oh, God, I don't know.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: That's a decision somebody's going to have to make probably in the next 10 minutes.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: You know, everybody just left the room.

(END AUDIO CLIP)

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: United 93 was spotted by another aircraft and at 10:01, command center advised FAA headquarters that one of the aircraft had seen United 93 -- quote -- "waving his wings" -- end quote. The aircraft had witnessed the radical gyrations in what we believed was the hijackers' effort to defeat the passenger assault on the cockpit. (BEGIN AUDIO CLIP)

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: There is now, on the United 93...

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Yes.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: There is a report of black smoke in the last position I gave you, 15 miles south of Johnstown.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: From the airplane or from the ground?

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: They're speculating it's from the aircraft.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Who -- it hit the ground? That's what they're -- that's what they're speculating. That's speculation only.

(END AUDIO CLIP)

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: NEADS was never able to locate United 93 on radar because it was already in the ground.

(BEGIN AUDIO CLIP)

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Go ahead.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: United 9-3, have you got information on that yet?

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Yes, he's down.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: He's down?

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Yes.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: When did he land? Because we have confirmation...

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: He did not land.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Oh, he's down?

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Yes.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Down?

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Yes. Somewhere up northeast of Camp David.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Northeast of Camp David.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: That's the last report. They don't know exactly where.

(END AUDIO CLIP)

(END VIDEOTAPE)

O'BRIEN: CNN's Sean Callebs has been following the timelines and testimony. He joins us now with the latest.

Sean, the shoot-down orders, a lot of talk about when orders were given. There were no standing orders for fighter aircraft before 9/11 to shoot down civilian aircraft if they deemed to be a threat.

How did that sequence of events occur where orders were given to cockpit -- you know, airborne cockpits and pilots?

SEAN CALLEBS, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Well, what we can tell is President Bush was speaking at a grade school at the time the first plane hit the World Trade Center. Within a half an hour of that, he was on the phone to Vice President Cheney, and he authorized to shoot down any commercial aircraft which was deemed hostile -- like, going toward the U.S. Capitol or the White House. By the time Dick Cheney was able to pass that information on, flight 93 had already crashed in that field in Pennsylvania.

Now, today, the NORAD commander was asked quite bluntly if the same horrific circumstances were to happen once again, what would happen? He said that the army radar is up in much better fashion in and around Washington and other U.S. cities. There are also some air defenses in Washington and other U.S. cities. He says that NORAD would be able to scramble fighter jets in a much quicker fashion. He believes that if the same thing happened -- the exact same set of circumstances, they would have about eight minutes to tail the lead aircraft that was hijacked and determine for eight minutes if, indeed, it was hostile or not, and then make what would be an agonizing decision to shoot down a commercial aircraft.

O'BRIEN: Sean, what about what is going on today? What's new as far as systems, responses, communication? I mean, when you look at what went wrong you see problems in almost everywhere you look.

CALLEBS: Exactly. I think that's one thing that really is characterized by today's very blunt assessment, the final day of public testimony of the 9/11 commission.

Really what is new is the information that the air traffic controllers and the military initially made were apparently all of the right decisions. However, getting that information up the chain of command just got muddied, to use the terminology that came out today in the hearing.

As I mentioned, they believe that they have much -- they have better checks and balances in place today. There is -- here are steps in effect that would get the information to NORAD and other military officials. There are a lot more planes available and they are spread out across the United States in a much better fashion than they were before September 11. And the military believes it would have much more time to respond to any type of hijacking.

And remember, Miles, the U.S. wasn't really prepared for this kind of hijacking. In the past, it was something always more traditional; they would have time to deal with what was going on if the plane was going to land somewhere, or a threat that dated back to the Cold War, some kind of attack from the former Soviet Union. O'BRIEN: Sean Callebs in Washington, thank you very much.

Back with more LIVE FROM in a moment.

(BEGIN VIDEOTAPE)

ANNOUNCER: "This Week in History," the first African American, Thurgood Marshall, was nominated to the U.S. Supreme Court.

In a slow-speed chase on June 17, 1994, L.A. police followed O.J. Simpson in a white Ford Bronco driven by his friend and former teammate Al Cowlings.

And in Montana, an 81-day stand-off between the FBI and the anti- government Freemen group came to a peaceful end.

That is "This Week in History."

(END VIDEOTAPE)

(COMMERCIAL BREAK)

PHILLIPS: A CIA contractor has been charged in connection with the killing of a prisoner in Afghanistan.

Just last hour, Attorney General John Ashcroft outlined the indictment.

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

JOHN ASHCROFT, ATTORNEY GENERAL: This morning, a grand jury in Raleigh, North Carolina, has indicted a contractor working on behalf of the Central Intelligence Agency for brutally assaulting an Afghan detainee in a U.S. military base in Afghanistan. David A. Passaro, age 38, a resident of Lillington, North Carolina, faces two counts of assault with a dangerous weapon and two counts of assault resulting in serious bodily injury.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

PHILLIPS: Passaro is the first civilian to be indicted in connection with alleged prisoner abuse in Iraq or Afghanistan.

O'BRIEN: News "Across America" now.

In Fort Worth, Texas, some 2000 people attended a prayer vigil for a Chicago father, two of his children and another child at a downtown park. The four drowned last night after a waterfall pump apparently sucked them to the bottom of a nine-foot deep swirling pool. The site is posted no swimming, but residents say people often wade into the pools on hot days.

In Colorado, a new rule could affect the upcoming Kobe Bryant trial. On July 1, Colorado becomes the first state in the nation to allow jurors in criminal cases to submit questions for witnesses. Other states, including Colorado, already allow such questions in civil cases.

And in Redwood City, California, the 11th day of the Scott Peterson double-murder trial just getting under way. Today, more testimony today expected from the police officers who initially spoke with Scott Peterson after the disappearance of his pregnant wife, Laci.

Back with more in a moment.

(COMMERCIAL BREAK)

PHILLIPS: Well, that wraps up this edition of LIVE FROM.

O'BRIEN: And now to take us through the next hour of political hairlines -- head -- hairlines? That's a feature they'll be doing later, political hairlines!

Political headlines, here's Judy Woodruff.

Hello, Judy.

JUDY WOODRUFF, CNN HOST: That sets off a whole new line of thinking. We're going to have to work up a new segment.

O'BRIEN: Might have stumbled on to something there. All right.

WOODRUFF: Miles and Kyra, thank you both.

Well, John McCain may be one of the Democrats favored Republicans, but it seems Senator Kerry isn't the only one who's reached out to the senator from Arizona. We'll take a look at who is going to be rubbing elbows with him tomorrow.

Plus, you thought the Big Dig was bad? With the Democratic convention a little over a month away, Dan Lothian takes a look at how all the hustle and bustle may seriously inconvenience Bostonians.

INSIDE POLITICS starts in just a moment.

(COMMERCIAL BREAK)

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Aired June 17, 2004 - 15:00   ET
THIS IS A RUSH TRANSCRIPT. THIS COPY MAY NOT BE IN ITS FINAL FORM AND MAY BE UPDATED.
MILES O'BRIEN, CNN ANCHOR: Checking the stories we're watching at this hour:
A top Iraqi official says a deadly bombing in Baghdad likely the work of notorious terrorist Abu Musab Zarqawi. At least 35 killed and nearly 150 wounded in the attack at an Iraqi army recruitment center.

President Bush insisting again today Saddam Hussein's Iraq had a long-standing relationship with Osama bin Laden's al Qaeda. That puts him at odds with the 9/11 commission, which yesterday reported Iraq and al Qaeda it felt each other out so to speak, but never worked together.

And a Muslim colleague of American Paul Johnson is appealing for Johnson's release. The Lockheed worker was kidnapped Saturday in Saudi Arabia and his abductors have threatened to kill him. In an open letter posted to a radical Islamist Web site, the unnamed colleague said he had vowed to protect Johnson, saying that harming Johnson would, thus, be a crime.

KYRA PHILLIPS, CNN ANCHOR: Up first this hour, 9/11 from the inside out.

The final day of the final public hearing of the 9/11 commission gave rise to highly dramatic, even chilling accounts and conclusions, many of which we'd never heard before.

(BEGIN VIDEOTAPE)

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: The controller told his supervisor that thought something was seriously wrong with the plane. At this point, neither the controller nor his supervisor suspected a hijacking. At 8:24:38, the following transmission came from American 11.

(BEGIN AUDIO CLIP)

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: We have some planes. Just stay quiet and you'll be OK. We're returning to the airport.

(END AUDIO CLIP)

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: The next transmission came seconds later.

(BEGIN AUDIO CLIP)

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Nobody move. Everything will be OK. If you try to make any moves, you'll endanger yourself and the airplane. Just say quiet.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Hearing that transmission, the controller told us he then knew it was a hijacking. At 8:34, the Boston Center controller received a third transmission from American 11.

(BEGIN AUDIO CLIP)

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Nobody move please. We are going back to the airport. Don't try to make any stupid moves.

(END AUDIO CLIP)

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Meanwhile, the manager from Boston Center reported that they had deciphered what they had heard in one of the first hijacker transmissions from American 11.

(BEGIN AUDIO CLIP)

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: You still there?

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Yes, I am.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I'm going to reconfirm with downstairs the, as far as the tape, seemed to think if the guy said that "we have planes." Now, I don't know if it was because it was the accent, or if there's more than one, but I'm going to reconfirm that for you and I'll get back to you real quick, OK?

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Appreciate it.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Planes as in plural. It sounds like we're talking in New York that there's another one aimed at the World Trade Center.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: There's another aircraft?

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: A second one just hit the Trade Center.

(END AUDIO CLIP)

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: At 8:37:52, Boston Center reached NEADS. This was the first notification received by the military at any level that American 11 had been hijacked.

(BEGIN AUDIO CLIP)

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Hi Boston Center TMU, we have a problem here. We have a hijacked aircraft headed towards New York and we need you guys to -- we need someone to scramble some F-16s or something up there, help us out.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Is this real-world or exercise?

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: No, this is not an exercise, not a test. (END AUDIO CLIP)

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Shortly after 8:50, while NEADS personnel were still trying to locate American 11, word reached them that a plane had hit the World Trade Center.

(BEGIN AUDIO CLIP)

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: We got several situations going on here. It's escalating big time, and we need to get the military involved with this.

(END AUDIO CLIP)

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Between 9:34 and 9:38, the controller observed climbing to 40,700 feet and immediately moved several aircraft out of its way. The controller continued to try to contact United 93 and asked whether the pilot could confirm that he had been hijacked. There was no response.

Then, at 9:39, a fifth radio transmission came over the radio frequency from United 93.

(BEGIN AUDIO CLIP)

ZIAD JARRAH, 9/11 HIJACKER: This is your captain. Would like you all to remain seated. There is a bomb aboard and are going back to the airport and to have our demands (UNINTELLIGIBLE). Please remain quiet.

(END AUDIO CLIP)

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: At 9:46 and again two minutes later, command center updated FAA headquarters that United 93 was now -- quote -- "29 minutes out of the Washington, D.C." -- end quote.

(BEGIN AUDIO CLIP)

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Do we want to think about scrambling aircraft?

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Oh, God, I don't know.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: That's a decision somebody's going to have to make probably in the next 10 minutes.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: You know, everybody just left the room.

(END AUDIO CLIP)

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: United 93 was spotted by another aircraft and at 10:01, command center advised FAA headquarters that one of the aircraft had seen United 93 -- quote -- "waving his wings" -- end quote. The aircraft had witnessed the radical gyrations in what we believed was the hijackers' effort to defeat the passenger assault on the cockpit. (BEGIN AUDIO CLIP)

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: There is now, on the United 93...

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Yes.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: There is a report of black smoke in the last position I gave you, 15 miles south of Johnstown.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: From the airplane or from the ground?

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: They're speculating it's from the aircraft.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Who -- it hit the ground? That's what they're -- that's what they're speculating. That's speculation only.

(END AUDIO CLIP)

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: NEADS was never able to locate United 93 on radar because it was already in the ground.

(BEGIN AUDIO CLIP)

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Go ahead.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: United 9-3, have you got information on that yet?

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Yes, he's down.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: He's down?

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Yes.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: When did he land? Because we have confirmation...

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: He did not land.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Oh, he's down?

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Yes.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Down?

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Yes. Somewhere up northeast of Camp David.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Northeast of Camp David.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: That's the last report. They don't know exactly where.

(END AUDIO CLIP)

(END VIDEOTAPE)

O'BRIEN: CNN's Sean Callebs has been following the timelines and testimony. He joins us now with the latest.

Sean, the shoot-down orders, a lot of talk about when orders were given. There were no standing orders for fighter aircraft before 9/11 to shoot down civilian aircraft if they deemed to be a threat.

How did that sequence of events occur where orders were given to cockpit -- you know, airborne cockpits and pilots?

SEAN CALLEBS, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Well, what we can tell is President Bush was speaking at a grade school at the time the first plane hit the World Trade Center. Within a half an hour of that, he was on the phone to Vice President Cheney, and he authorized to shoot down any commercial aircraft which was deemed hostile -- like, going toward the U.S. Capitol or the White House. By the time Dick Cheney was able to pass that information on, flight 93 had already crashed in that field in Pennsylvania.

Now, today, the NORAD commander was asked quite bluntly if the same horrific circumstances were to happen once again, what would happen? He said that the army radar is up in much better fashion in and around Washington and other U.S. cities. There are also some air defenses in Washington and other U.S. cities. He says that NORAD would be able to scramble fighter jets in a much quicker fashion. He believes that if the same thing happened -- the exact same set of circumstances, they would have about eight minutes to tail the lead aircraft that was hijacked and determine for eight minutes if, indeed, it was hostile or not, and then make what would be an agonizing decision to shoot down a commercial aircraft.

O'BRIEN: Sean, what about what is going on today? What's new as far as systems, responses, communication? I mean, when you look at what went wrong you see problems in almost everywhere you look.

CALLEBS: Exactly. I think that's one thing that really is characterized by today's very blunt assessment, the final day of public testimony of the 9/11 commission.

Really what is new is the information that the air traffic controllers and the military initially made were apparently all of the right decisions. However, getting that information up the chain of command just got muddied, to use the terminology that came out today in the hearing.

As I mentioned, they believe that they have much -- they have better checks and balances in place today. There is -- here are steps in effect that would get the information to NORAD and other military officials. There are a lot more planes available and they are spread out across the United States in a much better fashion than they were before September 11. And the military believes it would have much more time to respond to any type of hijacking.

And remember, Miles, the U.S. wasn't really prepared for this kind of hijacking. In the past, it was something always more traditional; they would have time to deal with what was going on if the plane was going to land somewhere, or a threat that dated back to the Cold War, some kind of attack from the former Soviet Union. O'BRIEN: Sean Callebs in Washington, thank you very much.

Back with more LIVE FROM in a moment.

(BEGIN VIDEOTAPE)

ANNOUNCER: "This Week in History," the first African American, Thurgood Marshall, was nominated to the U.S. Supreme Court.

In a slow-speed chase on June 17, 1994, L.A. police followed O.J. Simpson in a white Ford Bronco driven by his friend and former teammate Al Cowlings.

And in Montana, an 81-day stand-off between the FBI and the anti- government Freemen group came to a peaceful end.

That is "This Week in History."

(END VIDEOTAPE)

(COMMERCIAL BREAK)

PHILLIPS: A CIA contractor has been charged in connection with the killing of a prisoner in Afghanistan.

Just last hour, Attorney General John Ashcroft outlined the indictment.

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

JOHN ASHCROFT, ATTORNEY GENERAL: This morning, a grand jury in Raleigh, North Carolina, has indicted a contractor working on behalf of the Central Intelligence Agency for brutally assaulting an Afghan detainee in a U.S. military base in Afghanistan. David A. Passaro, age 38, a resident of Lillington, North Carolina, faces two counts of assault with a dangerous weapon and two counts of assault resulting in serious bodily injury.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

PHILLIPS: Passaro is the first civilian to be indicted in connection with alleged prisoner abuse in Iraq or Afghanistan.

O'BRIEN: News "Across America" now.

In Fort Worth, Texas, some 2000 people attended a prayer vigil for a Chicago father, two of his children and another child at a downtown park. The four drowned last night after a waterfall pump apparently sucked them to the bottom of a nine-foot deep swirling pool. The site is posted no swimming, but residents say people often wade into the pools on hot days.

In Colorado, a new rule could affect the upcoming Kobe Bryant trial. On July 1, Colorado becomes the first state in the nation to allow jurors in criminal cases to submit questions for witnesses. Other states, including Colorado, already allow such questions in civil cases.

And in Redwood City, California, the 11th day of the Scott Peterson double-murder trial just getting under way. Today, more testimony today expected from the police officers who initially spoke with Scott Peterson after the disappearance of his pregnant wife, Laci.

Back with more in a moment.

(COMMERCIAL BREAK)

PHILLIPS: Well, that wraps up this edition of LIVE FROM.

O'BRIEN: And now to take us through the next hour of political hairlines -- head -- hairlines? That's a feature they'll be doing later, political hairlines!

Political headlines, here's Judy Woodruff.

Hello, Judy.

JUDY WOODRUFF, CNN HOST: That sets off a whole new line of thinking. We're going to have to work up a new segment.

O'BRIEN: Might have stumbled on to something there. All right.

WOODRUFF: Miles and Kyra, thank you both.

Well, John McCain may be one of the Democrats favored Republicans, but it seems Senator Kerry isn't the only one who's reached out to the senator from Arizona. We'll take a look at who is going to be rubbing elbows with him tomorrow.

Plus, you thought the Big Dig was bad? With the Democratic convention a little over a month away, Dan Lothian takes a look at how all the hustle and bustle may seriously inconvenience Bostonians.

INSIDE POLITICS starts in just a moment.

(COMMERCIAL BREAK)

TO ORDER A VIDEO OF THIS TRANSCRIPT, PLEASE CALL 800-CNN-NEWS OR USE OUR SECURE ONLINE ORDER FORM LOCATED AT www.fdch.com