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MILES O'BRIEN, CNN ANCHOR: Did Saddam Hussein target America for terror attack? Russia's president drops a bombshell about intelligence shared with the U.S.
KYRA PHILLIPS, CNN ANCHOR: Sounds so sweet. A live tribute this hour honoring one of America's most original voices.

THELMA GUTIERREZ, CNN CORRESPONDENT: I'm Thelma Gutierrez in Los Angeles where a long list of recording heavyweights are paying their last respects to the legend, Ray Charles.

O'BRIEN: From the CNN Center in Atlanta, I'm Miles O'Brien.

PHILLIPS: And I'm Kyra Phillips. It's Friday, June 18, CNN's LIVE FROM... starts right now.

PHILLIPS: Russia to the rescue? Two days after the independent 9/11 Commission cited no credible evidence between collusion between al Qaeda and Saddam Hussein, seemingly contradicting one of the Bush administration's rationales for war, comes a bombshell from Vladimir Putin. The Russian president, who opposed the war, tells reporters that Russian intelligence warned Americans on several occasions that Saddam was plotting terror attacks against the U.S. We get the details now from CNN Moscow bureau chief Jill Dougherty -- Jill.

JILL DOUGHERTY, CNN MOSCOW BUREAU CHIEF: Well, Kyra, first of all, President Putin isn't making any connection directly to al Qaeda. That's one point on this. But it's a very interesting comment, as you have said. What Mr. Putin is saying is that before the invasion of Iraq, Russia and the United States, as they are now, were sharing intelligence information. And Russian agents uncovered information from their sources that the Saddam Hussein administration -- Saddam Hussein regime was planning attacks on the United States both domestically and internationally.

Here is what President Putin said today about that.

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

VLADIMIR PUTIN, RUSSIAN PRESIDENT (through translator): Indeed, after September 11 and before the start of the military operation in Iraq, the Russian special services received information that the official bodies of Saddam's regime were preparing terrorist attacks on the U.S. territory and on American military and civil sites outside the country. This information has indeed been conveyed to our American colleagues. (END VIDEO CLIP)

DOUGHERTY: And apparently conveyed directly to President Bush, because Mr. Putin says that President Bush himself got in touch with the head of Russian intelligence and thanked him directly for that information. Now President Putin says that there is no information, however, no proof, that Saddam Hussein's agents were involved in any terrorist attack against the United States.

Russia continues, as it did in the run-up to the war, to be opposed to the war in Iraq, as you mentioned. And Mr. Putin said that has not changed. But interestingly, again, the timing of all of this, because after all it comes during a very strong debate in the United States about any possible connection that Saddam Hussein might have had to terrorist organizations such as al Qaeda -- Kyra.

PHILLIPS: Jill Dougherty live from Moscow, thank you -- Miles.

O'BRIEN: The White House isn't giving an inch on the Iraq-al Qaeda connection allegation. Vice President Dick Cheney made the case today for the second time this week, claiming overwhelming evidence of high level contacts. He also called the media irresponsible for saying the 9/11 Commission concluded those contacts came to nothing.

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP FROM CNBC)

DICK CHENEY, VICE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES: There clearly was a relationship. It has been testified to. The evidence is overwhelming. It goes back to the early '90s. It involves a whole series of contacts, high level contacts between Osama bin Laden and Iraqi intelligence officials. It involves senior official, a brigadier general in the Iraqi intelligence service going to the Sudan before bin Laden ever went to Afghanistan to train them in bomb- making, helping teach them how to forge documents.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

O'BRIEN: The 9/11 panel says bin Laden sought Iraqi support in that Sudan meeting mentioned by Mr. Cheney but he was basically snubbed. Twelve days and counting until the return of Iraqi sovereignty and possibly martial law, that's being considered by Iraq's new government in light of daily insurgent attacks on Iraqis and Iraqi infrastructure. In Baghdad today a U.S. military supply convoy was totaled in a rocket-propelled grenade attack but no one appears to be hurt.

South Korea is sending more than 3600 troops to Northern Iraq later this summer. That will make Seoul the third-largest coalition partner in terms of troop strength, and reconstruction is job one.

And 660 South Korean troops are in southern Iraq already. They too will head north in the next few weeks.

And Sunday is the target date for resuming Iraqi oil exports from southern terminals. You may know exports were halted entirely south and north by those devastating attacks on the pipeline. A U.S. official says southern lines could be at full capacity by the middle of next week.

PHILLIPS: Today appears to be the day Paul Johnson's kidnappers have threatened to kill him unless Saudi Arabia releases all its al Qaeda prisoners. Johnson is the Lockheed Martin engineer who was captured last Saturday by al Qaeda members or sympathizers calling themselves the al Fallujah Squadron. Saudi authorities are said to be combing the kingdom with no success so far.

One man who knows more than most of what it is like to be a prisoner of hostile forces, Ron Young Jr. was a chief warrant officer in the U.S. Army when his chopper went down in central Iraq less than two weeks into. He and crewmates spent three long weeks in fear for their lives before being rescued by U.S. forces in Tikrit. Today Ron is a special contributor to CNN. He joins us now with his reflections on what's happening.

Now you and I have been talking a lot about this. When you look at this video of Paul Johnson and you look at just his behavior and his mannerisms, what do you think is different about this versus a Nick Berg or your situation?

RON YOUNG JR., CNN SPECIAL CONTRIBUTOR: Well, right now, he went into this situation and, of course, he knows what happened to Nick Berg. And that's a very heavy thing to have weighing on your mind to go into this situation. You can tell that he's being very careful about everything he does. He's not trying to provoke him. He's taken on a severely subservient role which is what he has to do to try to keep himself alive at this point.

And you know, our hearts just go out to the families and everything, and of course, our prayers. And I really applaud his family and the things that they've done to try to keep him alive by coming on camera and telling him how much he is a father and how much they love him. And I think that's a very good thing they're doing, trying to build a case for this man to be spared.

PHILLIPS: Is it different for Paul Johnson, for example, with you as a soldier, you sort of knew you had a chance that you would be rescued because of just the way the military operates and the duty to come after you. But you also were telling me in your mind, you thought you were going to die.

YOUNG: Absolutely. Every day I felt like that I was going to die. Especially when I was there laying on the bank and, of course, the Iraqis come over and they're tying me up. And they get behind me. And one of my takes a rifle and butt strokes me across the back of my head with it and basically knocks me almost unconscious and I start seeing stars. And when I come to, I'm looking over and Dave has a knife to his throat.

PHILLIPS: Dave was your crewmate.

YOUNG: Right, Dave being my crewmate that was shot down with me that night and taken captive also. But you know, and seeing that, and of course, the last -- the next 20 days were not any less fearful whatsoever. Every day we thought we were going to die. And I had basically made up my mind in the very beginning that the Iraqis were going to kill me.

PHILLIPS: All right. Let's talk about something different that is happening here. It started yesterday, he called himself "Sayed (ph) the Believer." He came out on this Web site saying, you've got to stop this, this isn't right, this is not Islamic. You don't kill innocent people like this who have done nothing to you. Then today this quote comes out from a top Saudi cleric, an imam, calling on these terrorists to repent and coming out with this quote saying that it is wrong and it's against the Muslim religion. It's unique here. Do you think that this could change the dynamics?

YOUNG: I do. I think he has a better chance right now than he has had the entire time through this. I mean, at first you look like, oh, my gosh, this is a horrible situation. But today after the developments that happened yesterday and, of course, today, it seems like he has a fairly good chance of making it now because you have the religious leaders, the highest ranking religious leaders over in Saudi Arabia in the city of Mecca, the center of Islam, basically saying that this is an evil thing that you're doing and that you guys need to repent.

And they're basically declaring that they protect this guy. And under the teachings of the Prophet Muhammad, if they're granted protection, Muslim protection, then basically Muhammad has said that either killing them or harming them or causing them any injury whatsoever or robbing them is absolutely wrong.

PHILLIPS: Now that's interesting, because with you the same thing happened, there were actually Iraqis that came to your defense?

YOUNG: Absolutely. We were sitting in the back of a van. And there were seven of us, of course, in there. And we'd been sitting there for three hours outside a grocery store kind of waiting for what's going to happen to us. And we had changed hands about six times. And this was going to be the seventh. And we were on a very tight rope. We started to feel like these guys were about ready to kill us, stick us in a grave and walk away from us.

And three guys took us over. And when they finally got us to a house, they started talking to us about the reason that they wanted us to live, and it was so that we could come back to the States and tell the world that Muslims are actually a peaceful people and that they believe in human rights and they don't believe in the Saddam Hussein regime. And you know.

PHILLIPS: And here you are alive. Hopefully the same thing for Paul Johnson.

YOUNG: We hope so, absolutely.

PHILLIPS: Thanks, Ron -- Miles.

O'BRIEN: Frank Sinatra called him a genius, Aretha Franklin called him the voice of a lifetime. And while that voice will never really be silenced, not as long as there are turntables or CD players or whatever may hold, the man himself, Ray Charles, is gone. Charles being mourned, thanked and celebrated, as we speak at the First AME Church of Los Angeles. And that is where we find CNN's Thelma Gutierrez -- Thelma..

GUTIERREZ: Miles, the funeral started just a few moments ago. Inside the First AME Church there are 1500 people, many of them well- known. This is a private invitation-only memorial service. There are many people seated outside here in the overflow section. Among those who we saw arrive earlier today, actress Cicely Tyson, Clint Eastwood, Glen Campbell, Little Richard, B.B. King, and the Reverend Jess Jackson. Right now let's listen in to the funeral where the Reverend Robert Robertson is speaking.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: ... and for the hours that are brighter and the roads that are straighter and the dreams that are nobeler, we praise thee, Lord. We praise you, Lord, for the tender memories that mortal death cannot extinguish. (UNINTELLIGIBLE) of our brother Ray, Lord, we know he's gone home to be with the lord, Lord.

GUTIERREZ: There will be a number of musical tributes as well later in the service. The service will last about two hours. A musical tribute later on by Stevie Wonder. One coming up by B.B. King, Glen Campbell as well, who said that he will play, of course, a very famous song "Georgia." And he said when he arrived here earlier that he remembered once when they had played together in Las Vegas and that he actually -- that Ray Charles actually opened for him -- Kyra.

O'BRIEN: Thelma Gutierrez, thank you very much.

President Bush on the road. The commander-in-chief takes his message to the troops. We're LVIE FROM... Ft. Lewis, Washington, straight ahead.

And the former commander-in-chief, remember him, Bill Clinton? He is set to release his revelations, some 900 pages worth. We have a sneak peek inside the tome.

(COMMERCIAL BREAK)

PHILLIPS: A hearing is scheduled is Tuesday for a CIA contractor charged with assault in the death of a detainee in Afghanistan. David Passaro is a former Green Beret medic and Army Ranger. He spent in Afghanistan a few weeks when he allegedly kicked, punched and beat the detainee with a flashlight.

His brother said that he knew the charges were brewing.

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

STEVE PASSARO, BROTHER OF CHARGED CONTRACTOR: David, he contacted me a few months ago and he said, Steven, please, I need you to pray. I need you to pray. And I need you to pray like you've never prayed before because there was something going on, it was very big. And he said that there was something that was being hung on him, that he was innocent, and that he was being prepared to take a fall for something that he had not done. And he asked me to pray.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

PHILLIPS: Passaro is the first civilian to be charged in the prison abuse investigation in Afghanistan and Iraq.

Other news around the world, political unrest in Afghanistan leads our news. Officials say rebels have overrun a remote provincial capital in western Afghanistan, forcing the governor to flee. Several people were reported killed in that fighting. There's been an upsurge in violence across ahead of September elections.

Out of jail. A Spanish judge releases three people suspected of helping to get dynamite for the Madrid train bombers. The three are still charged with collaborating with terrorists. Almost 200 people were killed in the train attacks last March.

Reducing nuclear risks. Pakistani diplomats are in India to talk about ways to head off nuclear conflict. They're expected to discuss cutting their weapons stockpiles and setting up a hotline between the nations' leaders.

O'BRIEN: President Bush stressing his role as commander-in-chief during a campaign swing out West today. He's visiting the battleground states of Nevada and Washington. He thanked troops at Ft. Lewis who are back home from Iraq, while new allegations surfaced about Saddam Hussein before the war.

CNN's Elaine Quijano reports.

(BEGIN VIDEOTAPE)

ELAINE QUIJANO, CNN WHITE HOUSE CORRESPONDENT: As President Bush spoke to U.S. troops here at Ft. Lewis in Washington State, White House officials were neither confirming nor denying the statement by Russian President Vladimir Putin. National Security Council spokesman Sean McCormack saying that they do not typically comment on intelligence matters, going on to say only that the U.S. has an excellent record on cooperation in the war on terror with the Russian government, that a big part of that cooperation is information and intelligence sharing.

President Bush, meantime, turning his attention to the U.S. troops here at Ft. Lewis, Washington. This morning he was introduced by none other than Arizona Senator John McCain, who has been courted by the president's Democratic rival, John Kerry. Well, today this joint appearance putting to rest any rumors of a Kerry-McCain presidential ticket.

Senator McCain had high praise for President Bush.

SEN. JOHN MCCAIN (R), ARIZONA: He has led this country with moral clarity about the stakes involved and with firm resolve to achieve unconditional victory. There have been ups and downs, as there are in any war, but like you, he has not wavered in his determination to protect this country and to make the world a better, safer, freer place. You will not yield, nor will he. QUIJANO: For his part, President Bush had words of praise of his own for Senator McCain, saying that he brought great credit to the uniform. The president also thanking the troops at Ft. Lewis for their service, acknowledging that they and their families were making difficult sacrifices, but telling them that their sacrifices were needed.

And today he once again vigorously defended his decision to remove Saddam Hussein from power.

GEORGE W. BUSH, PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES: This is a regime that had used chemical weapons before. It had used weapons not only against countries in its neighborhood but against its own citizens. This is a regime which gave cash rewards to families of suicide bombers. This is a regime that sheltered terrorist groups. This is a regime that hated America.

QUIJANO: This afternoon President Bush is meeting with wounded soldiers at nearby Madigan Army Medical Center. He is also, we are told, separately scheduled to meet with the families of soldiers killed overseas. And then later the president turns his attention to the campaign trail, heading to Reno, Nevada, to talk to supporters there. We understand Senator McCain will be there for that event as well.

Elaine Quijano, CNN, Ft. Lewis, Washington.

(END VIDEOTAPE)

O'BRIEN: Democrat John Kerry meantime keeping up the drumbeat on pocketbook issues. In a rally in suburban Washington this morning, the senator called for an increase in the minimum wage to $7 an hour. He says that would benefit almost 7.5 million low income workers. Kerry is in the midst of a two-week swing focusing on ways to improve America's financial standing.

PHILLIPS: His life, all 900 pages of it. Bill Clinton's weighty autobiography titled "My Life" arrives in book stores next week. Audio excerpts are being released today on AOL. In this portion, Clinton talks about his now famous meeting with President Kennedy.

(BEGIN AUDIO CLIP FROM "MY LIFE")

BILL CLINTON, 42ND PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES: I was in the front, and being bigger and a bigger supporter of the president than most of the others, I made sure I'd get to shake his hand even if he only shook two or three. It was an amazing moment for me, meeting the president whom I had supported in my ninth grade class debates, and about whom I felt even more strongly after his two-and-a-half years in office.

A friend took a photo for me, a later we found film footage of the handshake in the Kennedy library. Much has been made of that brief encounter and its impact on my life. My mother said she knew when I came home that I was determined to go into politics.

(END AUDIO CLIP)

PHILLIPS: Clinton says he had political aspirations even before meeting the president. I want to tell you here AOL is part of Time Warner, which also owns CNN.

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Aired June 19, 2004 - 12:59   ET
THIS IS A RUSH TRANSCRIPT. THIS COPY MAY NOT BE IN ITS FINAL FORM AND MAY BE UPDATED.
MILES O'BRIEN, CNN ANCHOR: Did Saddam Hussein target America for terror attack? Russia's president drops a bombshell about intelligence shared with the U.S.
KYRA PHILLIPS, CNN ANCHOR: Sounds so sweet. A live tribute this hour honoring one of America's most original voices.

THELMA GUTIERREZ, CNN CORRESPONDENT: I'm Thelma Gutierrez in Los Angeles where a long list of recording heavyweights are paying their last respects to the legend, Ray Charles.

O'BRIEN: From the CNN Center in Atlanta, I'm Miles O'Brien.

PHILLIPS: And I'm Kyra Phillips. It's Friday, June 18, CNN's LIVE FROM... starts right now.

PHILLIPS: Russia to the rescue? Two days after the independent 9/11 Commission cited no credible evidence between collusion between al Qaeda and Saddam Hussein, seemingly contradicting one of the Bush administration's rationales for war, comes a bombshell from Vladimir Putin. The Russian president, who opposed the war, tells reporters that Russian intelligence warned Americans on several occasions that Saddam was plotting terror attacks against the U.S. We get the details now from CNN Moscow bureau chief Jill Dougherty -- Jill.

JILL DOUGHERTY, CNN MOSCOW BUREAU CHIEF: Well, Kyra, first of all, President Putin isn't making any connection directly to al Qaeda. That's one point on this. But it's a very interesting comment, as you have said. What Mr. Putin is saying is that before the invasion of Iraq, Russia and the United States, as they are now, were sharing intelligence information. And Russian agents uncovered information from their sources that the Saddam Hussein administration -- Saddam Hussein regime was planning attacks on the United States both domestically and internationally.

Here is what President Putin said today about that.

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

VLADIMIR PUTIN, RUSSIAN PRESIDENT (through translator): Indeed, after September 11 and before the start of the military operation in Iraq, the Russian special services received information that the official bodies of Saddam's regime were preparing terrorist attacks on the U.S. territory and on American military and civil sites outside the country. This information has indeed been conveyed to our American colleagues. (END VIDEO CLIP)

DOUGHERTY: And apparently conveyed directly to President Bush, because Mr. Putin says that President Bush himself got in touch with the head of Russian intelligence and thanked him directly for that information. Now President Putin says that there is no information, however, no proof, that Saddam Hussein's agents were involved in any terrorist attack against the United States.

Russia continues, as it did in the run-up to the war, to be opposed to the war in Iraq, as you mentioned. And Mr. Putin said that has not changed. But interestingly, again, the timing of all of this, because after all it comes during a very strong debate in the United States about any possible connection that Saddam Hussein might have had to terrorist organizations such as al Qaeda -- Kyra.

PHILLIPS: Jill Dougherty live from Moscow, thank you -- Miles.

O'BRIEN: The White House isn't giving an inch on the Iraq-al Qaeda connection allegation. Vice President Dick Cheney made the case today for the second time this week, claiming overwhelming evidence of high level contacts. He also called the media irresponsible for saying the 9/11 Commission concluded those contacts came to nothing.

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP FROM CNBC)

DICK CHENEY, VICE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES: There clearly was a relationship. It has been testified to. The evidence is overwhelming. It goes back to the early '90s. It involves a whole series of contacts, high level contacts between Osama bin Laden and Iraqi intelligence officials. It involves senior official, a brigadier general in the Iraqi intelligence service going to the Sudan before bin Laden ever went to Afghanistan to train them in bomb- making, helping teach them how to forge documents.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

O'BRIEN: The 9/11 panel says bin Laden sought Iraqi support in that Sudan meeting mentioned by Mr. Cheney but he was basically snubbed. Twelve days and counting until the return of Iraqi sovereignty and possibly martial law, that's being considered by Iraq's new government in light of daily insurgent attacks on Iraqis and Iraqi infrastructure. In Baghdad today a U.S. military supply convoy was totaled in a rocket-propelled grenade attack but no one appears to be hurt.

South Korea is sending more than 3600 troops to Northern Iraq later this summer. That will make Seoul the third-largest coalition partner in terms of troop strength, and reconstruction is job one.

And 660 South Korean troops are in southern Iraq already. They too will head north in the next few weeks.

And Sunday is the target date for resuming Iraqi oil exports from southern terminals. You may know exports were halted entirely south and north by those devastating attacks on the pipeline. A U.S. official says southern lines could be at full capacity by the middle of next week.

PHILLIPS: Today appears to be the day Paul Johnson's kidnappers have threatened to kill him unless Saudi Arabia releases all its al Qaeda prisoners. Johnson is the Lockheed Martin engineer who was captured last Saturday by al Qaeda members or sympathizers calling themselves the al Fallujah Squadron. Saudi authorities are said to be combing the kingdom with no success so far.

One man who knows more than most of what it is like to be a prisoner of hostile forces, Ron Young Jr. was a chief warrant officer in the U.S. Army when his chopper went down in central Iraq less than two weeks into. He and crewmates spent three long weeks in fear for their lives before being rescued by U.S. forces in Tikrit. Today Ron is a special contributor to CNN. He joins us now with his reflections on what's happening.

Now you and I have been talking a lot about this. When you look at this video of Paul Johnson and you look at just his behavior and his mannerisms, what do you think is different about this versus a Nick Berg or your situation?

RON YOUNG JR., CNN SPECIAL CONTRIBUTOR: Well, right now, he went into this situation and, of course, he knows what happened to Nick Berg. And that's a very heavy thing to have weighing on your mind to go into this situation. You can tell that he's being very careful about everything he does. He's not trying to provoke him. He's taken on a severely subservient role which is what he has to do to try to keep himself alive at this point.

And you know, our hearts just go out to the families and everything, and of course, our prayers. And I really applaud his family and the things that they've done to try to keep him alive by coming on camera and telling him how much he is a father and how much they love him. And I think that's a very good thing they're doing, trying to build a case for this man to be spared.

PHILLIPS: Is it different for Paul Johnson, for example, with you as a soldier, you sort of knew you had a chance that you would be rescued because of just the way the military operates and the duty to come after you. But you also were telling me in your mind, you thought you were going to die.

YOUNG: Absolutely. Every day I felt like that I was going to die. Especially when I was there laying on the bank and, of course, the Iraqis come over and they're tying me up. And they get behind me. And one of my takes a rifle and butt strokes me across the back of my head with it and basically knocks me almost unconscious and I start seeing stars. And when I come to, I'm looking over and Dave has a knife to his throat.

PHILLIPS: Dave was your crewmate.

YOUNG: Right, Dave being my crewmate that was shot down with me that night and taken captive also. But you know, and seeing that, and of course, the last -- the next 20 days were not any less fearful whatsoever. Every day we thought we were going to die. And I had basically made up my mind in the very beginning that the Iraqis were going to kill me.

PHILLIPS: All right. Let's talk about something different that is happening here. It started yesterday, he called himself "Sayed (ph) the Believer." He came out on this Web site saying, you've got to stop this, this isn't right, this is not Islamic. You don't kill innocent people like this who have done nothing to you. Then today this quote comes out from a top Saudi cleric, an imam, calling on these terrorists to repent and coming out with this quote saying that it is wrong and it's against the Muslim religion. It's unique here. Do you think that this could change the dynamics?

YOUNG: I do. I think he has a better chance right now than he has had the entire time through this. I mean, at first you look like, oh, my gosh, this is a horrible situation. But today after the developments that happened yesterday and, of course, today, it seems like he has a fairly good chance of making it now because you have the religious leaders, the highest ranking religious leaders over in Saudi Arabia in the city of Mecca, the center of Islam, basically saying that this is an evil thing that you're doing and that you guys need to repent.

And they're basically declaring that they protect this guy. And under the teachings of the Prophet Muhammad, if they're granted protection, Muslim protection, then basically Muhammad has said that either killing them or harming them or causing them any injury whatsoever or robbing them is absolutely wrong.

PHILLIPS: Now that's interesting, because with you the same thing happened, there were actually Iraqis that came to your defense?

YOUNG: Absolutely. We were sitting in the back of a van. And there were seven of us, of course, in there. And we'd been sitting there for three hours outside a grocery store kind of waiting for what's going to happen to us. And we had changed hands about six times. And this was going to be the seventh. And we were on a very tight rope. We started to feel like these guys were about ready to kill us, stick us in a grave and walk away from us.

And three guys took us over. And when they finally got us to a house, they started talking to us about the reason that they wanted us to live, and it was so that we could come back to the States and tell the world that Muslims are actually a peaceful people and that they believe in human rights and they don't believe in the Saddam Hussein regime. And you know.

PHILLIPS: And here you are alive. Hopefully the same thing for Paul Johnson.

YOUNG: We hope so, absolutely.

PHILLIPS: Thanks, Ron -- Miles.

O'BRIEN: Frank Sinatra called him a genius, Aretha Franklin called him the voice of a lifetime. And while that voice will never really be silenced, not as long as there are turntables or CD players or whatever may hold, the man himself, Ray Charles, is gone. Charles being mourned, thanked and celebrated, as we speak at the First AME Church of Los Angeles. And that is where we find CNN's Thelma Gutierrez -- Thelma..

GUTIERREZ: Miles, the funeral started just a few moments ago. Inside the First AME Church there are 1500 people, many of them well- known. This is a private invitation-only memorial service. There are many people seated outside here in the overflow section. Among those who we saw arrive earlier today, actress Cicely Tyson, Clint Eastwood, Glen Campbell, Little Richard, B.B. King, and the Reverend Jess Jackson. Right now let's listen in to the funeral where the Reverend Robert Robertson is speaking.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: ... and for the hours that are brighter and the roads that are straighter and the dreams that are nobeler, we praise thee, Lord. We praise you, Lord, for the tender memories that mortal death cannot extinguish. (UNINTELLIGIBLE) of our brother Ray, Lord, we know he's gone home to be with the lord, Lord.

GUTIERREZ: There will be a number of musical tributes as well later in the service. The service will last about two hours. A musical tribute later on by Stevie Wonder. One coming up by B.B. King, Glen Campbell as well, who said that he will play, of course, a very famous song "Georgia." And he said when he arrived here earlier that he remembered once when they had played together in Las Vegas and that he actually -- that Ray Charles actually opened for him -- Kyra.

O'BRIEN: Thelma Gutierrez, thank you very much.

President Bush on the road. The commander-in-chief takes his message to the troops. We're LVIE FROM... Ft. Lewis, Washington, straight ahead.

And the former commander-in-chief, remember him, Bill Clinton? He is set to release his revelations, some 900 pages worth. We have a sneak peek inside the tome.

(COMMERCIAL BREAK)

PHILLIPS: A hearing is scheduled is Tuesday for a CIA contractor charged with assault in the death of a detainee in Afghanistan. David Passaro is a former Green Beret medic and Army Ranger. He spent in Afghanistan a few weeks when he allegedly kicked, punched and beat the detainee with a flashlight.

His brother said that he knew the charges were brewing.

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

STEVE PASSARO, BROTHER OF CHARGED CONTRACTOR: David, he contacted me a few months ago and he said, Steven, please, I need you to pray. I need you to pray. And I need you to pray like you've never prayed before because there was something going on, it was very big. And he said that there was something that was being hung on him, that he was innocent, and that he was being prepared to take a fall for something that he had not done. And he asked me to pray.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

PHILLIPS: Passaro is the first civilian to be charged in the prison abuse investigation in Afghanistan and Iraq.

Other news around the world, political unrest in Afghanistan leads our news. Officials say rebels have overrun a remote provincial capital in western Afghanistan, forcing the governor to flee. Several people were reported killed in that fighting. There's been an upsurge in violence across ahead of September elections.

Out of jail. A Spanish judge releases three people suspected of helping to get dynamite for the Madrid train bombers. The three are still charged with collaborating with terrorists. Almost 200 people were killed in the train attacks last March.

Reducing nuclear risks. Pakistani diplomats are in India to talk about ways to head off nuclear conflict. They're expected to discuss cutting their weapons stockpiles and setting up a hotline between the nations' leaders.

O'BRIEN: President Bush stressing his role as commander-in-chief during a campaign swing out West today. He's visiting the battleground states of Nevada and Washington. He thanked troops at Ft. Lewis who are back home from Iraq, while new allegations surfaced about Saddam Hussein before the war.

CNN's Elaine Quijano reports.

(BEGIN VIDEOTAPE)

ELAINE QUIJANO, CNN WHITE HOUSE CORRESPONDENT: As President Bush spoke to U.S. troops here at Ft. Lewis in Washington State, White House officials were neither confirming nor denying the statement by Russian President Vladimir Putin. National Security Council spokesman Sean McCormack saying that they do not typically comment on intelligence matters, going on to say only that the U.S. has an excellent record on cooperation in the war on terror with the Russian government, that a big part of that cooperation is information and intelligence sharing.

President Bush, meantime, turning his attention to the U.S. troops here at Ft. Lewis, Washington. This morning he was introduced by none other than Arizona Senator John McCain, who has been courted by the president's Democratic rival, John Kerry. Well, today this joint appearance putting to rest any rumors of a Kerry-McCain presidential ticket.

Senator McCain had high praise for President Bush.

SEN. JOHN MCCAIN (R), ARIZONA: He has led this country with moral clarity about the stakes involved and with firm resolve to achieve unconditional victory. There have been ups and downs, as there are in any war, but like you, he has not wavered in his determination to protect this country and to make the world a better, safer, freer place. You will not yield, nor will he. QUIJANO: For his part, President Bush had words of praise of his own for Senator McCain, saying that he brought great credit to the uniform. The president also thanking the troops at Ft. Lewis for their service, acknowledging that they and their families were making difficult sacrifices, but telling them that their sacrifices were needed.

And today he once again vigorously defended his decision to remove Saddam Hussein from power.

GEORGE W. BUSH, PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES: This is a regime that had used chemical weapons before. It had used weapons not only against countries in its neighborhood but against its own citizens. This is a regime which gave cash rewards to families of suicide bombers. This is a regime that sheltered terrorist groups. This is a regime that hated America.

QUIJANO: This afternoon President Bush is meeting with wounded soldiers at nearby Madigan Army Medical Center. He is also, we are told, separately scheduled to meet with the families of soldiers killed overseas. And then later the president turns his attention to the campaign trail, heading to Reno, Nevada, to talk to supporters there. We understand Senator McCain will be there for that event as well.

Elaine Quijano, CNN, Ft. Lewis, Washington.

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O'BRIEN: Democrat John Kerry meantime keeping up the drumbeat on pocketbook issues. In a rally in suburban Washington this morning, the senator called for an increase in the minimum wage to $7 an hour. He says that would benefit almost 7.5 million low income workers. Kerry is in the midst of a two-week swing focusing on ways to improve America's financial standing.

PHILLIPS: His life, all 900 pages of it. Bill Clinton's weighty autobiography titled "My Life" arrives in book stores next week. Audio excerpts are being released today on AOL. In this portion, Clinton talks about his now famous meeting with President Kennedy.

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BILL CLINTON, 42ND PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES: I was in the front, and being bigger and a bigger supporter of the president than most of the others, I made sure I'd get to shake his hand even if he only shook two or three. It was an amazing moment for me, meeting the president whom I had supported in my ninth grade class debates, and about whom I felt even more strongly after his two-and-a-half years in office.

A friend took a photo for me, a later we found film footage of the handshake in the Kennedy library. Much has been made of that brief encounter and its impact on my life. My mother said she knew when I came home that I was determined to go into politics.

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PHILLIPS: Clinton says he had political aspirations even before meeting the president. I want to tell you here AOL is part of Time Warner, which also owns CNN.

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