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A Familiar Face is Back in Pennsylvania; Dissecting the Case for War

Aired July 09, 2004 - 13:00   ET

THIS IS A RUSH TRANSCRIPT. THIS COPY MAY NOT BE IN ITS FINAL FORM AND MAY BE UPDATED.

THIS IS A RUSH TRANSCRIPT. THIS COPY MAY NOT BE IN ITS FINAL FORM AND MAY BE UPDATED.


KYRA PHILLIPS, CO-HOST: A familiar face is back in Pennsylvania. Another visit to the Keystone State by the commander in chief and his daughter. We'll check in on the campaign trail. From the CNN Center in Atlanta, hello, everyone, I'm Kyra Phillips.
MILES O'BRIEN, CNN ANCHOR: And I'm Miles O'Brien, Friday, July 9th, and CNN's LIVE FROM begins right this moment.

And at the top today, dissecting the case for war. Intelligence cited by President Bush as the key justification to invade Iraq was just plain wrong. That is the stunning conclusion of a hard-hitting Senate committee report released today that lays blame largely on the doorstep of the CIA.

What went wrong, and how could it happen? CNN's Sean Callebs, joining us now from Washington with a closer look.

Sean?

SEAN CALLEBS, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Miles, leading senators unveiled that scathing report in the last couple of hours, saying that the intelligence the United States used to go to war against Saddam Hussein was horribly flawed. Lawmakers said they supported a U.S.-led invasion of Iraq, believing that nation had chemical and biological weapons, and that Iraq was in the process of working to complete nuclear weapons.

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

SEN. PAT ROBERTS (R-KS): Before the war, the U.S. intelligence community told the president, as well as the Congress and the public, that Saddam Hussein had stockpiles of chemical and biological weapons, and if left unchecked, would probably have a nuclear weapon during this decade.

Well, today, we know these assessments were wrong.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

CALLEBS: One of the conclusions in the report, most of the key judgments in the intelligence community's 2002 National Intelligence Estimate either overstated or were not supported by the underlying intelligence reporting. Now, this report was unveiled in Washington, as the military announced that 1,000 U.S. troops have now lost their lives fighting in Iraq. When asked if a vote was held today to invade Iraq, would it have support from Congress, the chairman of the committee, Republican Pat Roberts, said I don't know. The Democratic vice chair was more blunt.

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

SEN. JAY ROCKEFELLER (D-WV): The fact is that the administration, at all levels, and to some extent us, used bad information to bolster its case for war. And we in Congress would not have authorized that war. We would not have authorized that war with 75 votes, if we knew what we know now.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

CALLEBS: The final 512-page report from the Senate Intelligence Committee was approved unanimously by committee members. Harsh words, as well, for intelligence analysts that the committee said, quote, "ignored or discounted conflicting information." It says that the intelligence community suffered from a collective presumption that Iraq had an active and growing weapons of mass destruction program, and this, quote, "group think dynamic," led intelligence community to interpret ambiguous evidence as conclusively indicative of a WMD program.

The committee also had withering criticism for outgoing CIA chief George Tenet. It said Tenet skewed advice, focusing on the CIA's view, and discounting dissenting opinions from other intelligence agencies. It also faulted Tenet for not personally reviewing President Bush's 2003 State of the Union Address, which contained the since-discredited references to Iraq allegedly trying to buy uranium in Africa.

Miles, of course Tenet has resigned. He is scheduled to leave office officially this coming Sunday.

O'BRIEN: Sean Callebs in Washington, thank you.

PHILLIPS: Grim milestone in Iraq. The combined death toll for U.S. and other coalition forces has now surpassed 1,000. The latest reported deaths include a U.S. soldier who died in an attack in Samarra earlier this week. Another died from wounds sustained during fighting in Baghdad, and a third U.S. soldier died in a non-hostile situation on that same day.

Taking a stand, Bulgaria and the Philippines say they won't be intimidated by the kidnappings of their citizens. The governments of both countries are working to free the men. The two Bulgarians and one Filipino are truck drivers. Insurgents are threatening to kill them unless various demands are met.

Appealing on behalf of Saddam Hussein, the lone American attorney on Saddam's legal team wants the U.S. Supreme Court to declare the detention of his client unconstitutional. It is considered a long shot.

Returned to military control. That's the new status of U.S. Marine Corporal Wassef Hassoun, who disappeared in Iraq last month. He resurfaced this week in Lebanon and is on his way to Germany. While his whereabouts are no longer a mystery, the circumstances surrounding his vanishing are.

CNN's Miguel Marquez is in West Jordan, Utah, home of Hassoun's family.

Miguel?

MARQUEZ: Yes, there still seems to be plenty of mystery left there, Kyra. The family here is sort of taking a collective breath. It's been quite a whirlwind for them in the last few weeks as they've waited for some word on Corporal Hassoun. We do know that he is on a plan, and in about an hour or so, he will arrive at Ramstein Air Force Base in Germany. He will then be taken to Landstuhl Hospital, where he will undergo a medical evaluation.

We expect a short press conference to come after that. The official status of the corporal right now is that he is returned to military control, and a Pentagon source says that's about a close a normal -- or as close to normal a status as Corporal Hassoun is going to get.

But his family says, despite what his status is, they are happy he is in U.S. hands and in good health.

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: He sounded OK. I was told that he had lost some weight, but he is well.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

MARQUEZ: Now, on June 20th, Corporal Hassoun was that of a deserter after he went missing. He was last seen on June 19th. On the 20th, he was listed as a deserter. Then on the 28th, after video surfaced with him with a sword -- blindfold with a sword over his head, he was listed as captured. That was since changed to returned to military control. All of this, because of a Naval criminal investigation service investigation going on into exactly how he disappeared, how he fell into the hands of these alleged people in Iraq, and how he managed to escape them, and then how he managed to get to Lebanon.

Kyra?

PHILLIPS: All right, Miguel Marquez. Thanks so much. We're going to talk later in the half hour with Major General Don Shepperd about the investigation that continues into Hassoun.

Miles?

O'BRIEN: The road to the White House, now. The two Democratic hopefuls head to West Virginia today for more campaigning. Senators John Kerry and John Edwards held a rally this morning in New York. Another Senator, Hillary Rodham Clinton, there, along to join them. Last night, the pair jammed with A-list celebrities at Radio City Hall, attending a fund-raising concert -- $7.5 million in the bank after that one. The Democratic hopefuls, not quitting the day job, we think, will also hold a rally in Albuquerque, New Mexico, this evening.

President Bush, also on the campaign trail. He's on a bus tour through Pennsylvania today, a state Bush has visited more than any other.

CNN's Elaine Quijano is with the president.

ELAINE QUIJANO, CNN CORRESPONDENT: President Bush is on his 30th visit here to the state of Pennsylvania, the 30th time he has been here since taking office, and bringing along with him this time daughter Jenna Bush. Now, this is the first time that she is beating the campaign trail for her father this year. The president, joking to a crowd here in Pennsylvania that his daughter actually gave him a piece of advice, telling him that he needed to change his shirt, which, by the way, he did.

But the president made a stop that was not on the official schedule. About 20 minutes into his bus tour, he visited a packed diner, where he shook some hands, and where Jenna Bush reportedly took some home video.

After about half an hour, the president moved on to his event here in Kutztown. The president, speaking to the crowd, sounding some familiar themes, reiterating his justification for the war in Iraq, restating his commitment to carrying out the war on terror, but also pushing messages on the domestic front as well, messages of tax relief, of the determination to strengthen the economy, and also the need for medical liability reform. All of those issues, the campaign believes will resonate with voters here in Pennsylvania.

The president, by the way, lost this state by four percentage points back in 2000. Now, 21 electoral votes up for grabs. The president, obviously focusing much of his attention here. The president has visited this state every month this year, and the president hoping that his message, his vision, will reach the people here in Pennsylvania.

Elaine Quijano, CNN, Kutztown, Pennsylvania.

PHILLIPS: Where do third parties fit in presidential politics? Well, that'll be hashed out in Washington, where Ralph Nader debates Howard Dean next hour.

Dean abandoned his attempt for the Democratic nomination during the primaries. Nader is running as an independent after losing his bid for the Green Party. The debate is sponsored by National Public Radio. It will also cover electoral reform.

Their story reads like a suspense novel, but after years, finally, a happy ending, a family reunited.

A call to tear down the barrier Israel is building in the West Bank. We're gong to tell you who it's coming from.

And what's next for Corporal Ali Hassoun? Plenty of questions ahead. We'll take a closer look with General Don Shepperd when LIVE FROM returns.

(COMMERCIAL BREAK)

(WEATHER REPORT)

PHILLIPS: It violates international law and has to go. That's the opinion of the United Nations' highest court on Israel's barrier in the West Bank.

Our John Vause is live from Jerusalem with the reaction.

John?

JOHN VAUSE, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Hello, Kyra. From the outset of this court case at the International Court of Justice at the Hague, the Israelis refused to recognize the jurisdiction that the International Court of Justice had in this matter. In fact, when the hearings began in February, it refused to send a legal team. It said it would not take any notice of the opinion which the court would rule. It ignored it then, and it intends to continue ignoring it now.

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

SAEB EREKAT, PALESTINIAN AUTHORITY: This is suffocating the lives of 343,00 Palestinians, killing them. They cannot tell me I'm going to live, and live (ph) to (ph) die. The concept here is live and let live. So, if they want to build a wall, let them build it in their own borders, and I hope they adhere to the ruling of the International Court of Justice.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

JOHN VAUSE: OK, we just heard then from Saeb Erekat from the Palestinian Authority. He was actually giving us the Palestinian reaction to all of this. And, as you can imagine, the Palestinians are claiming a huge moral victory in all of this. They have argued all along that this barrier, this fence, this wall is in fact a land grab. And, in some ways, the International Court of Justice backed that up, criticizing the route that the fence is taking, saying it's not entirely convinced that the route which has been chosen by the Israelis has all to do with security.

So, for the Palestinians now, they have a huge moral victory, but it could in fact be a hollow victory, Kyra, because the ICJ is now sending this to the U.N. Security Council to try and force Israel to tear down the wall and compensate Palestinians, but in the Security Council, there is always the United States, which is likely to veto any move against the Israelis.

Kyra?

PHILLIPS: Now, John, you've been out there. You've been to the site. You've talked with the people. I mean, what is it like? Is it just constantly filled with protesters on a regular basis?

VAUSE: No, it's not, actually. The protests usually happen on Friday after prayers. But what is interesting about this wall is that it's twice the size of the Berlin Wall, where it is in fact a wall in places like Abu Dies, which is in east Jerusalem. But in other parts, it's a chain-linked fence with razor wire and ditches and sensors on the fence. So it's not exactly a wall, it's not exactly a fence. It's a combination of both.

And you can see that both sides have an argument in this. The Israelis are saying, look, suicide attacks, attacks on Israelis, since we started building this wall, is down by 90 percent.

For the Palestinians who we talked to say this is real hardship. My child's school is a mile away from my house, but yet I should travel three hours to get there, or I have to wait for an Israeli soldier to open a gate so I can leave my village. And there are genuine hardships out there amongst the Palestinians.

So there are certainly arguments on both sides. And what is interesting is that you hear from the Israelis saying, look, we don't want this wall. The minute there is a partner for peace on the other side, we'll tear it down.

And you hear from the Palestinians saying, we want to have peace, but we can't talk to the Israelis. So it really is a stalemate on both sides.

PHILLIPS: Yes, continues. John Vause, live from Jerusalem. Thank you.

Miles?

O'BRIEN: News around the world to tell you about. Here for a reunion in Jakarta, Indonesia, alleged American defector Charles Jenkins, reunited with his Japanese wife. He defected to North Korea during a routine Army patrol in the DMZ in 1965. His wife was later abducted by North Korean spies and then allowed to go back to Japan. He refused to travel to see here there because he feared extradition and a trial in the U.S.

The bulls and, well, quite frankly, the bull-headed, keep running in Pamplona, Spain. Day three of the annual festival, honoring the city's patron saint, although we don't know how. Four runners, including two Americans, were gored by the bulls, admitted to the hospital. Several others trampled, only slightly hurt, however.

And a fake American prison in Kabul, Afghanistan to tell you about. Three U.S. citizens in Afghan custody after allegedly running a fake jail cell. The house was raided, eight prisoners found. They say the men were beaten.

The Summer Olympics are approaching, and as athletes vie for position heading into the games, that steroid scandal still looms large. And while they're running for sports in Athens, Lance continues to ride -- or does he -- in France? (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: If you ever need help knowing what you can say, just say help.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

O'BRIEN: Help is what she does. Meet one of the most recognizable people you've never seen. That's later on LIVE FROM. Press one now for commercials.

(COMMERCIAL BREAK)

O'BRIEN: Now for our daily update. Lance's chances, we like to call it. Let's cue a little Sheryl Crow. We shouldn't have to explain that to you, but that's his girlfriend, and all she wants to do is have some fun, as he does.

The sixth stage of the race took cyclists from Bonneval to Angers. Armstrong and several other riders were involved in a little crash, le crash, earlier today, as our friend David Schecter would say. A scrape was visible on Mr. Armstrong's right leg, but it didn't stop him from finishing the 122-mile course. You go ahead and convert to kilometers if you'd like.

Belgian Tom Boonen finished first. Armstrong, who is going for his sixth title, still managed to finish in the pack right behind him. But once again, Mr. Schecter tells us that's a strategic move.

He did that on purpose, Kyra.

PHILLIPS: Schecter knows all, we know that.

Well, Armstrong has announced that he won't compete in next month's Summer Olympics, but the game's ceremonial torch has already completed its 78-day journey to the host country. It arrived this morning in Greece, less than five weeks before opening ceremonies.

As those games loom, so does a steroid scandal involving the U.S. track and field team. CNN sports reporter Josie Burke looks at the Olympic trials and tribulations.

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

JOSIE BURKE, CNN CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): One-time world record holder in the 100 meters, Maurice Green has one wish at the start of the track and field Olympic trials, to see the drug scandal go away.

MAURICE GREEN, U.S. SPRINTER: I just wish it would just get over with as soon as possible so our sport can move on from it.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: You know, quit dragging it out. They know that they're guilty. They're just trying to dance around, make themselves look better. They're trying to save what reputation they have left. BURKE: Five athletes fighting doping bands from the United States Anti-Doping Agency are competing for spots in Athens. None of the cases appear close to settlement. The uncertainty has cast a shadow over the entire sport, at the one time every four years when track and field is supposed to enjoy being the focus of the sports world.

GREEN: They're talking about, oh, this athlete is under suspicion. This athlete has said this. This athlete has done this, and everything else. So, I mean, it's very hurtful.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: The length that they're going to get these people out, these people that have been cheating us out of our spotlight and all that stuff, I mean, great, get them out. Hang them all -- I don't-- it has no effect on me.

BURKE: The athlete who may be under the most scrutiny at the trials in Sacramento is the sport's most recognizable figure, Marion Jones. There have been a flurry of rumors, but no charges against Jones. But having her name in any way linked to the scandal has all athletes feeling the sting of suspicion.

JOHN CAPEL, U.S. SPRINTER: Right now, any time somebody runs a very, very fast time, they'll say, is he on performance-enhancing drugs?

BURKE: What happens if any of the athletes under suspicion make the team? Even though the United States must submit its final roster by July 21st, the International Olympic Committee will allow substitutions under exceptional circumstances before the games begin.

Of course, there is no guarantee that all of the cases will be decided by then.

Josie Burke, CNN, Sacramento.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

(MARKET UPDATE)

(COMMERCIAL BREAK)

O'BRIEN: In the news now, a scathing report released today on pre-Iraq war intelligence. The 400-page Senate Intelligence Committee report states the Bush administration's case for war was based on unreasonable and largely unsupportable information. It called the CIA's analysis faulty, inaccurate or overstated.

Still campaigning hard, Democratic duo John Kerry, John Edwards, heading to West Virginia and New Mexico today. That's after a whirlwind trip to New York, where they raised more than $7 million at fund-raising events.

And in southern Illinois, a stretch of Interstate 57 shut down this hour, due to a train derailment. As many as eight cars of a coal train went off the track. No one on the train hurt, but a railroad official says a truck driver suffered minor injuries.

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Aired July 9, 2004 - 13:00   ET
THIS IS A RUSH TRANSCRIPT. THIS COPY MAY NOT BE IN ITS FINAL FORM AND MAY BE UPDATED.
KYRA PHILLIPS, CO-HOST: A familiar face is back in Pennsylvania. Another visit to the Keystone State by the commander in chief and his daughter. We'll check in on the campaign trail. From the CNN Center in Atlanta, hello, everyone, I'm Kyra Phillips.
MILES O'BRIEN, CNN ANCHOR: And I'm Miles O'Brien, Friday, July 9th, and CNN's LIVE FROM begins right this moment.

And at the top today, dissecting the case for war. Intelligence cited by President Bush as the key justification to invade Iraq was just plain wrong. That is the stunning conclusion of a hard-hitting Senate committee report released today that lays blame largely on the doorstep of the CIA.

What went wrong, and how could it happen? CNN's Sean Callebs, joining us now from Washington with a closer look.

Sean?

SEAN CALLEBS, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Miles, leading senators unveiled that scathing report in the last couple of hours, saying that the intelligence the United States used to go to war against Saddam Hussein was horribly flawed. Lawmakers said they supported a U.S.-led invasion of Iraq, believing that nation had chemical and biological weapons, and that Iraq was in the process of working to complete nuclear weapons.

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

SEN. PAT ROBERTS (R-KS): Before the war, the U.S. intelligence community told the president, as well as the Congress and the public, that Saddam Hussein had stockpiles of chemical and biological weapons, and if left unchecked, would probably have a nuclear weapon during this decade.

Well, today, we know these assessments were wrong.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

CALLEBS: One of the conclusions in the report, most of the key judgments in the intelligence community's 2002 National Intelligence Estimate either overstated or were not supported by the underlying intelligence reporting. Now, this report was unveiled in Washington, as the military announced that 1,000 U.S. troops have now lost their lives fighting in Iraq. When asked if a vote was held today to invade Iraq, would it have support from Congress, the chairman of the committee, Republican Pat Roberts, said I don't know. The Democratic vice chair was more blunt.

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

SEN. JAY ROCKEFELLER (D-WV): The fact is that the administration, at all levels, and to some extent us, used bad information to bolster its case for war. And we in Congress would not have authorized that war. We would not have authorized that war with 75 votes, if we knew what we know now.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

CALLEBS: The final 512-page report from the Senate Intelligence Committee was approved unanimously by committee members. Harsh words, as well, for intelligence analysts that the committee said, quote, "ignored or discounted conflicting information." It says that the intelligence community suffered from a collective presumption that Iraq had an active and growing weapons of mass destruction program, and this, quote, "group think dynamic," led intelligence community to interpret ambiguous evidence as conclusively indicative of a WMD program.

The committee also had withering criticism for outgoing CIA chief George Tenet. It said Tenet skewed advice, focusing on the CIA's view, and discounting dissenting opinions from other intelligence agencies. It also faulted Tenet for not personally reviewing President Bush's 2003 State of the Union Address, which contained the since-discredited references to Iraq allegedly trying to buy uranium in Africa.

Miles, of course Tenet has resigned. He is scheduled to leave office officially this coming Sunday.

O'BRIEN: Sean Callebs in Washington, thank you.

PHILLIPS: Grim milestone in Iraq. The combined death toll for U.S. and other coalition forces has now surpassed 1,000. The latest reported deaths include a U.S. soldier who died in an attack in Samarra earlier this week. Another died from wounds sustained during fighting in Baghdad, and a third U.S. soldier died in a non-hostile situation on that same day.

Taking a stand, Bulgaria and the Philippines say they won't be intimidated by the kidnappings of their citizens. The governments of both countries are working to free the men. The two Bulgarians and one Filipino are truck drivers. Insurgents are threatening to kill them unless various demands are met.

Appealing on behalf of Saddam Hussein, the lone American attorney on Saddam's legal team wants the U.S. Supreme Court to declare the detention of his client unconstitutional. It is considered a long shot.

Returned to military control. That's the new status of U.S. Marine Corporal Wassef Hassoun, who disappeared in Iraq last month. He resurfaced this week in Lebanon and is on his way to Germany. While his whereabouts are no longer a mystery, the circumstances surrounding his vanishing are.

CNN's Miguel Marquez is in West Jordan, Utah, home of Hassoun's family.

Miguel?

MARQUEZ: Yes, there still seems to be plenty of mystery left there, Kyra. The family here is sort of taking a collective breath. It's been quite a whirlwind for them in the last few weeks as they've waited for some word on Corporal Hassoun. We do know that he is on a plan, and in about an hour or so, he will arrive at Ramstein Air Force Base in Germany. He will then be taken to Landstuhl Hospital, where he will undergo a medical evaluation.

We expect a short press conference to come after that. The official status of the corporal right now is that he is returned to military control, and a Pentagon source says that's about a close a normal -- or as close to normal a status as Corporal Hassoun is going to get.

But his family says, despite what his status is, they are happy he is in U.S. hands and in good health.

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: He sounded OK. I was told that he had lost some weight, but he is well.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

MARQUEZ: Now, on June 20th, Corporal Hassoun was that of a deserter after he went missing. He was last seen on June 19th. On the 20th, he was listed as a deserter. Then on the 28th, after video surfaced with him with a sword -- blindfold with a sword over his head, he was listed as captured. That was since changed to returned to military control. All of this, because of a Naval criminal investigation service investigation going on into exactly how he disappeared, how he fell into the hands of these alleged people in Iraq, and how he managed to escape them, and then how he managed to get to Lebanon.

Kyra?

PHILLIPS: All right, Miguel Marquez. Thanks so much. We're going to talk later in the half hour with Major General Don Shepperd about the investigation that continues into Hassoun.

Miles?

O'BRIEN: The road to the White House, now. The two Democratic hopefuls head to West Virginia today for more campaigning. Senators John Kerry and John Edwards held a rally this morning in New York. Another Senator, Hillary Rodham Clinton, there, along to join them. Last night, the pair jammed with A-list celebrities at Radio City Hall, attending a fund-raising concert -- $7.5 million in the bank after that one. The Democratic hopefuls, not quitting the day job, we think, will also hold a rally in Albuquerque, New Mexico, this evening.

President Bush, also on the campaign trail. He's on a bus tour through Pennsylvania today, a state Bush has visited more than any other.

CNN's Elaine Quijano is with the president.

ELAINE QUIJANO, CNN CORRESPONDENT: President Bush is on his 30th visit here to the state of Pennsylvania, the 30th time he has been here since taking office, and bringing along with him this time daughter Jenna Bush. Now, this is the first time that she is beating the campaign trail for her father this year. The president, joking to a crowd here in Pennsylvania that his daughter actually gave him a piece of advice, telling him that he needed to change his shirt, which, by the way, he did.

But the president made a stop that was not on the official schedule. About 20 minutes into his bus tour, he visited a packed diner, where he shook some hands, and where Jenna Bush reportedly took some home video.

After about half an hour, the president moved on to his event here in Kutztown. The president, speaking to the crowd, sounding some familiar themes, reiterating his justification for the war in Iraq, restating his commitment to carrying out the war on terror, but also pushing messages on the domestic front as well, messages of tax relief, of the determination to strengthen the economy, and also the need for medical liability reform. All of those issues, the campaign believes will resonate with voters here in Pennsylvania.

The president, by the way, lost this state by four percentage points back in 2000. Now, 21 electoral votes up for grabs. The president, obviously focusing much of his attention here. The president has visited this state every month this year, and the president hoping that his message, his vision, will reach the people here in Pennsylvania.

Elaine Quijano, CNN, Kutztown, Pennsylvania.

PHILLIPS: Where do third parties fit in presidential politics? Well, that'll be hashed out in Washington, where Ralph Nader debates Howard Dean next hour.

Dean abandoned his attempt for the Democratic nomination during the primaries. Nader is running as an independent after losing his bid for the Green Party. The debate is sponsored by National Public Radio. It will also cover electoral reform.

Their story reads like a suspense novel, but after years, finally, a happy ending, a family reunited.

A call to tear down the barrier Israel is building in the West Bank. We're gong to tell you who it's coming from.

And what's next for Corporal Ali Hassoun? Plenty of questions ahead. We'll take a closer look with General Don Shepperd when LIVE FROM returns.

(COMMERCIAL BREAK)

(WEATHER REPORT)

PHILLIPS: It violates international law and has to go. That's the opinion of the United Nations' highest court on Israel's barrier in the West Bank.

Our John Vause is live from Jerusalem with the reaction.

John?

JOHN VAUSE, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Hello, Kyra. From the outset of this court case at the International Court of Justice at the Hague, the Israelis refused to recognize the jurisdiction that the International Court of Justice had in this matter. In fact, when the hearings began in February, it refused to send a legal team. It said it would not take any notice of the opinion which the court would rule. It ignored it then, and it intends to continue ignoring it now.

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

SAEB EREKAT, PALESTINIAN AUTHORITY: This is suffocating the lives of 343,00 Palestinians, killing them. They cannot tell me I'm going to live, and live (ph) to (ph) die. The concept here is live and let live. So, if they want to build a wall, let them build it in their own borders, and I hope they adhere to the ruling of the International Court of Justice.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

JOHN VAUSE: OK, we just heard then from Saeb Erekat from the Palestinian Authority. He was actually giving us the Palestinian reaction to all of this. And, as you can imagine, the Palestinians are claiming a huge moral victory in all of this. They have argued all along that this barrier, this fence, this wall is in fact a land grab. And, in some ways, the International Court of Justice backed that up, criticizing the route that the fence is taking, saying it's not entirely convinced that the route which has been chosen by the Israelis has all to do with security.

So, for the Palestinians now, they have a huge moral victory, but it could in fact be a hollow victory, Kyra, because the ICJ is now sending this to the U.N. Security Council to try and force Israel to tear down the wall and compensate Palestinians, but in the Security Council, there is always the United States, which is likely to veto any move against the Israelis.

Kyra?

PHILLIPS: Now, John, you've been out there. You've been to the site. You've talked with the people. I mean, what is it like? Is it just constantly filled with protesters on a regular basis?

VAUSE: No, it's not, actually. The protests usually happen on Friday after prayers. But what is interesting about this wall is that it's twice the size of the Berlin Wall, where it is in fact a wall in places like Abu Dies, which is in east Jerusalem. But in other parts, it's a chain-linked fence with razor wire and ditches and sensors on the fence. So it's not exactly a wall, it's not exactly a fence. It's a combination of both.

And you can see that both sides have an argument in this. The Israelis are saying, look, suicide attacks, attacks on Israelis, since we started building this wall, is down by 90 percent.

For the Palestinians who we talked to say this is real hardship. My child's school is a mile away from my house, but yet I should travel three hours to get there, or I have to wait for an Israeli soldier to open a gate so I can leave my village. And there are genuine hardships out there amongst the Palestinians.

So there are certainly arguments on both sides. And what is interesting is that you hear from the Israelis saying, look, we don't want this wall. The minute there is a partner for peace on the other side, we'll tear it down.

And you hear from the Palestinians saying, we want to have peace, but we can't talk to the Israelis. So it really is a stalemate on both sides.

PHILLIPS: Yes, continues. John Vause, live from Jerusalem. Thank you.

Miles?

O'BRIEN: News around the world to tell you about. Here for a reunion in Jakarta, Indonesia, alleged American defector Charles Jenkins, reunited with his Japanese wife. He defected to North Korea during a routine Army patrol in the DMZ in 1965. His wife was later abducted by North Korean spies and then allowed to go back to Japan. He refused to travel to see here there because he feared extradition and a trial in the U.S.

The bulls and, well, quite frankly, the bull-headed, keep running in Pamplona, Spain. Day three of the annual festival, honoring the city's patron saint, although we don't know how. Four runners, including two Americans, were gored by the bulls, admitted to the hospital. Several others trampled, only slightly hurt, however.

And a fake American prison in Kabul, Afghanistan to tell you about. Three U.S. citizens in Afghan custody after allegedly running a fake jail cell. The house was raided, eight prisoners found. They say the men were beaten.

The Summer Olympics are approaching, and as athletes vie for position heading into the games, that steroid scandal still looms large. And while they're running for sports in Athens, Lance continues to ride -- or does he -- in France? (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: If you ever need help knowing what you can say, just say help.

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O'BRIEN: Now for our daily update. Lance's chances, we like to call it. Let's cue a little Sheryl Crow. We shouldn't have to explain that to you, but that's his girlfriend, and all she wants to do is have some fun, as he does.

The sixth stage of the race took cyclists from Bonneval to Angers. Armstrong and several other riders were involved in a little crash, le crash, earlier today, as our friend David Schecter would say. A scrape was visible on Mr. Armstrong's right leg, but it didn't stop him from finishing the 122-mile course. You go ahead and convert to kilometers if you'd like.

Belgian Tom Boonen finished first. Armstrong, who is going for his sixth title, still managed to finish in the pack right behind him. But once again, Mr. Schecter tells us that's a strategic move.

He did that on purpose, Kyra.

PHILLIPS: Schecter knows all, we know that.

Well, Armstrong has announced that he won't compete in next month's Summer Olympics, but the game's ceremonial torch has already completed its 78-day journey to the host country. It arrived this morning in Greece, less than five weeks before opening ceremonies.

As those games loom, so does a steroid scandal involving the U.S. track and field team. CNN sports reporter Josie Burke looks at the Olympic trials and tribulations.

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JOSIE BURKE, CNN CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): One-time world record holder in the 100 meters, Maurice Green has one wish at the start of the track and field Olympic trials, to see the drug scandal go away.

MAURICE GREEN, U.S. SPRINTER: I just wish it would just get over with as soon as possible so our sport can move on from it.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: You know, quit dragging it out. They know that they're guilty. They're just trying to dance around, make themselves look better. They're trying to save what reputation they have left. BURKE: Five athletes fighting doping bands from the United States Anti-Doping Agency are competing for spots in Athens. None of the cases appear close to settlement. The uncertainty has cast a shadow over the entire sport, at the one time every four years when track and field is supposed to enjoy being the focus of the sports world.

GREEN: They're talking about, oh, this athlete is under suspicion. This athlete has said this. This athlete has done this, and everything else. So, I mean, it's very hurtful.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: The length that they're going to get these people out, these people that have been cheating us out of our spotlight and all that stuff, I mean, great, get them out. Hang them all -- I don't-- it has no effect on me.

BURKE: The athlete who may be under the most scrutiny at the trials in Sacramento is the sport's most recognizable figure, Marion Jones. There have been a flurry of rumors, but no charges against Jones. But having her name in any way linked to the scandal has all athletes feeling the sting of suspicion.

JOHN CAPEL, U.S. SPRINTER: Right now, any time somebody runs a very, very fast time, they'll say, is he on performance-enhancing drugs?

BURKE: What happens if any of the athletes under suspicion make the team? Even though the United States must submit its final roster by July 21st, the International Olympic Committee will allow substitutions under exceptional circumstances before the games begin.

Of course, there is no guarantee that all of the cases will be decided by then.

Josie Burke, CNN, Sacramento.

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O'BRIEN: In the news now, a scathing report released today on pre-Iraq war intelligence. The 400-page Senate Intelligence Committee report states the Bush administration's case for war was based on unreasonable and largely unsupportable information. It called the CIA's analysis faulty, inaccurate or overstated.

Still campaigning hard, Democratic duo John Kerry, John Edwards, heading to West Virginia and New Mexico today. That's after a whirlwind trip to New York, where they raised more than $7 million at fund-raising events.

And in southern Illinois, a stretch of Interstate 57 shut down this hour, due to a train derailment. As many as eight cars of a coal train went off the track. No one on the train hurt, but a railroad official says a truck driver suffered minor injuries.

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