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White House Defends President's Lack of NAACP Speeches; Saudi Officials Labor to Keep Expats Safe

Aired July 15, 2004 - 13:58   ET

THIS IS A RUSH TRANSCRIPT. THIS COPY MAY NOT BE IN ITS FINAL FORM AND MAY BE UPDATED.

THIS IS A RUSH TRANSCRIPT. THIS COPY MAY NOT BE IN ITS FINAL FORM AND MAY BE UPDATED.


KYRA PHILLIPS, CNN ANCHOR: Up first this hour, a new approach to what is fast becoming an old predicament in the new Iraq. On a day when yet another car-bombing killed 10 people, yet another oil pipeline was badly damaged and yet another household wiped out by an errant mortar.
Iraq's new prime minister vowed to annihilate insurgents with a new intelligence service, the General Security Directorate. We get the details now from CNN's Michael Holmes in Baghdad.

(BEGIN VIDEOTAPE)

MICHAEL HOLMES, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Just a day after the massive car bomb outside the Green Zone here in Baghdad, further north at a depot there was another car bomb and another death toll. There were 10 people killed in this car bomb. It was a large bomb. More than 30 were injured, many of them critically injured. The target, apparently, a police station. And indeed, among the dead were four police. The bomb was so large, however, that several other buildings were damaged as well.

Now in Kirkuk, also in the north, a tragic incident. What happened there apparently was insurgents were firing mortars at a police station. However they missed their mark and two mortars crashed into a residential house. Five members of the same family were killed, including three children and two other members of that family were wounded as well.

Now, in Baghdad, a news conference by the interim Prime Minister Ayad Allawi, in which he virtually said he was going to take the fight to the insurgents -- he announced the setting up of a domestic intelligence agency.

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

AYAD ALLAWI, IRAQI INTERIM PRIME MINISTER (through translator): The security situation is a continuing improvement, as a result of the combined efforts of the ministries of defense, interior, and the national security advisor, and a great number of government institutions. I have met with a number of sheiks, tribal dignitaries, and I urge them to engage in the necessary cooperation with the Iraqi security forces as a contribution to ensuring security for the Iraqi people.

(END VIDEO CLIP) HOLMES: The prime minister went out of his way to reassure Iraqis long suspicious of intelligence services under Saddam Hussein that this would be different. It would have much oversight, he said, civilian oversight. And his interior minister said everyone who would be hired to fulfill a role in this new spy agency domestically would have to have, in his words, "clean hands." Michael Holmes, CNN, Baghdad.

(END VIDEOTAPE)

CAROL LIN, CNN ANCHOR: And a gruesome discovery as well in Iraq. A headless body found on the outskirts of Mosul leads police there to think they may have been wrong about the fate of two Bulgarian hostages. Despite reports on Al-Jazeera Television, Mosul police had asserted both Bulgarian truck drivers captured several days earlier were safe. The corpse's identity has not yet been confirmed.

And then, there's Angelo de la Cruz, full of hope and filled with thanks for his country's apparent compliance with his captors' demands. The Filipino truck driver and father of eight was seen again today on Al-Jazeera, reportedly telling his family, quote, "Wait for me. I'm coming back."

Al Jazeera quotes his kidnappers as saying that won't happen until the last of the Philippines' 51 peacekeeping troops leave Iraq.

PHILLIPS: Topping political news, a speculation that Republican Senator John McCain was Senator John Kerry's first pick for a running mate. Kerry admits discussing the possibility with McCain, but says that's as far as it went. He talked about it on "Imus in the Morning," on his radio program today.

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

SEN. JOHN KERRY, (D-MA), PRESIDENTIAL. CANDIDATE: A lot of Republicans, actually, and others came to me and said, "You really ought to think about, you know, having John McCain in a sort of unity fusion ticket." There were some overtures made to me. John and I chatted briefly about whether or not it was even something that could be explored.

And basically, John McCain said he didn't want to explore it. He didn't think it was right. It didn't feel right to him. It wasn't something he wanted to do, and we didn't explore it. No offer was ever made.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

PHILLIPS: Well, Kerry is taking advantage of the president's falling out with the NAACP. He spoke to the group, the civil rights group, in Philadelphia today, and he accused President Bush of dividing America by race and wealth. His comment comes after the White House passed on scheduling President Bush to speak to NAACP delegates.

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) KERRY: I understand you've been having trouble getting some speakers. So I want to thank you for the invitation. Some people may have better things to do. But there's no place that I'd rather be right now than right here in Philadelphia with the NAACP.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

PHILLIPS: John Kerry is talking about President Bush's spat with the NAACP, still causing ripples, I guess you could say. Our Kathleen Koch joins us live from Washington with more -- Kathleen.

KATHLEEN KOCH, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Kyra, here at the White House, the official word is that this happened because of scheduling issues. Now, as a candidate back in 2000, then Governor George Bush did speak to the annual meeting of the NAACP, saying that he was proud to address the group, and admitting himself that it was an organization that some Republicans do choose to avoid.

Clearly, though, things have changed over the last four years. The president, when reporters last week asked him why he was not meeting with the NAACP this week, said, quote, "I would describe my relationship with the current leadership as basically non-existent. You've heard the rhetoric and the names they've called me."

This afternoon, President Bush's spokesman echoed his words, but defended his record.

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

SCOTT MCCLELLAN, WHITE HOUSE SPOKESMAN: It really is disappointing to see the current leadership continue to repeat the hostile rhetoric that they have used, which really shows that they're not interested in a constructive dialogue. Nevertheless, the president is committed to continuing to reaching out to the African- American community, and committed to continuing reaching out to NAACP members.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

KOCH: As evidence of that, McClellan pointed out that earlier this month, President Bush met with civil rights leaders to celebrate the 40th anniversary of the Civil Rights Act here in the United States. He also pointed out that next week in Detroit, the president will be speaking to the meeting of another civil rights group, the National Urban League.

Still, it is very important to point out that over the years, throughout his presidency, the president has come under increasing criticism for not meeting regularly with civil rights groups, with African-American groups, including the Congressional Black Caucus, on a variety of important issues, from welfare reform to Haiti.

So Kyra, here we see a rift getting deeper.

PHILLIPS: We'll continue to follow it. Kathleen Koch live from the White House. Thanks -- Carol. LIN: Kyra, at this hour, the Democratic vice presidential hopeful is on the road in New Orleans. John Edwards is kicking off the Democrats' front porch tour. He and John Kerry are running parallel stops across the country to meet with American families. Now, during the Louisiana stop, Edwards will talk about Kerry's tax plan to help middle class families.

PHILLIPS: It was on the front page of The New York Times, but the White House says it's not true. Persistent rumblings about Vice President Dick Cheney being dumped from the ticket. We're going to talk about it. All in the family -- what it's like to have Al Qaeda kingpin Osama bin Laden as an in-law? A woman who met him face to face talks to CNN.

And who's apt to lie more, a man or a woman? The true scoop on what the sexes lie about, straight ahead.

(COMMERCIAL BREAK)

LIN: So was it a tornado that devastated a neighborhood in Campbelltown, Pennsylvania? Residents are certain of it. Officials are, though, still looking at the data and the damage. A closer look now from WGAL reporter Susan Shapiro.

(BEGIN VIDEOTAPE)

SUSAN SHAPIRO, WGAL REPORTER (voice-over): As you drive through Country Squire Estates in Campbelltown, you see destroyed and damaged homes on every street. At least 30 are marked with spray paint, identifying damage.

DEARAN QUIGLEY, NATIONAL INSPECTION AGENCY: Right now, we're just sort of taking an inventory of what the situation is.

SHAPIRO: Residents are trying to deal with the devastation, but it is overwhelming.

JOE MANNIGA (ph), CAMPBELLTOWN RESIDENT: I don't even know where to start. I was trying to think of an order of which to start picking things up. What's important? The clouds going to stay here, should I get a trailer -- I don't know where to start.

DENISE BLOCK, CAMPBELLTOWN RESIDENT: My husband grew up in Missouri and he says this is what Tornadoes do. They hit one side of the street, can be fine, and the other side, horrible. And it's true.

SHAPIRO: There are many memorable sights here -- a resident on a very open second floor of a home with no roof, a canoe wrapped around a tree, and a toilet just sitting in the middle of a leveled home.

JOE NOVESEL, JODI LENINGTON'S FATHER: She saw it coming, and she knew she couldn't make it to the basement, so she jumped in...

UNIDENTIFIED WOMAN: To the little powder room.

JOE NOVESEL: ... powder room. That's what's left of the powder room.

SHAPIRO: Jodi Lenington was critically injured when the storm leveled her home. Her parents and husband are trying to salvage what they can.

LOIS NOVESEL, JODI LENINGTON'S MOTHER: Here we are, trying to see whatever we can salvage for here, because she's up there and she just keeps saying, "My house, mother, my house" And I told her, "I'll stay here all day if I have to and do whatever I can for her."

JERRY LENINGTON, HUSBAND: It was a great home. We just had it the way we wanted it. But it's a little bit different now.

(END VIDEOTAPE)

LIN: That's an understatement. Our thanks to Susan Shapiro, our reporter from WGAL. Now, state officials say it will be a day or two before they make a determination on disaster relief -- Kyra.

PHILLIPS: Other news across America now, a Florida woman has been charged with animal cruelty for putting her pig in the trunk of her car to take it to the scene of an escaped tiger. Well, she was offering the pig as tiger bait. Officers turned her down. They later shot and killed that tiger, which belonged to an actor.

Thanks, but no thanks. Former Chicago Bears Coach Mike Ditka says he will not run for a Senate seat in Illinois. Ditka says he was honored to be approached by Republican leaders, but has business commitments. He runs a restaurant and is an analyst on ESPN.

The politics of weight loss. The makers of Slim-Fast are dropping Whoopi Goldberg as spokeswoman because of comments she made at a John Kerry fundraiser. Goldberg made some sexually explicit remarks about President Bush at the event. Some conservative groups threatened to boycott Slim-Fast if it did not take action.

LIN: Well, when it comes to telling the truth, who is more challenged, men or women? We're taking out our lie detector and putting the sexes to the test, and the results may actually surprise you. Our Heidi Collins has part four in our series about lying.

(BEGIN VIDEOTAPE)

HEIDI COLLINS, CNN REPORTER (voice-over): It's a refrain as old as time. Women say men basically lie to get what they want.

GWENDOLYN ROBINSON: He started telling me about all these visions that god was giving him as far as being the right person in his life. Once I found the marriage licenses and I knew he was still married to these women, I didn't want to see it happen to someone else.

COLLINS: Are men always the liars and women the ones who believe them? Get ready for the truth. The researchers say women lie the same amount as men. What's different about the sexes is what they lie about. DORY HOLLENDER, "101 LIES MEN TELL WOMEN": A lot of men feel that they have to compete with other men who have more money, who have a better job, who have more status. And so, men will invent themselves and reinvent themselves in order to be attractive to a woman. Some men even lie about their eye color.

COLLINS: One study found that men lie to enhance their self- esteem. The same study found women are more likely to lie to spare the feelings of others.

HOLLENDER: The most common places that women protect the relationship are in the sanctity of the bedroom, where a woman will say that she's sexually fulfilled and she's not. She wants to protect his ego. She wants to make him feel good about her, about the relationship, and about his performance.

COLLINS: But these days, women may be telling different kinds of lies about what happens in the bedroom. A recent poll shows that the number of married women in America who have had affairs is rising -- still less than men, but going up 50 percent in a decade.

HOLLENDER: Understand that people lie, you lie, I lie, we all lie. But some lies are going to be not acceptable, and that's where you have to draw your line in the sand. Lies of evasion are really hurtful.

(END VIDEOTAPE)

LIN: More tomorrow in part five of our series. We're going to tell you how to figure out when someone is lying to you.

PHILLIPS: Carol, you know this. I'm a scratch golfer. I drive about 325. I used to play on the tour. And I can say this because I am one: a golfer who is a terrible liar. But this is one shot where the truth is the best story of all. Licking the postage stamp later on LIVE FROM...

(COMMERCIAL BREAK)

LIN: Well, combating terrorism is a major priority for Saudi Arabia. Recent attacks on expatriates are driving many of them to leave the oil-rich nation, and others to step up security. CNN senior international correspondent Nic Robertson has more on the challenge of keeping expats safe in Saudi Arabia.

(BEGIN VIDEOTAPE)

NIC ROBERTSON, CNN SENIOR INTERNATIONAL CORRESPONDENT: Blue skies, immaculate greens. A golfer's paradise. Well, almost. The high security wall and regular security patrols giving away this is no normal fairway... but one of Saudi Arabia's premier compounds for expatriate workers and their families.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: The security provided by the compound, I mean it is just amazing. I mean, as you come in, I mean, there are three security blocks, everybody's checked, everything is on camera, the guards all over the place. So it really, it does give you piece of mind.

ROBERTSON: Until now, the Saudi owners kept this housing compound a carefully guarded secret. But with growing fears about attacks on Westerners, they've opened the gates for the first time to show that expats can live here safely.

(on-camera) But not all expatriates have this level of security. U.S. engineer Paul Johnson was kidnapped just a few miles from these gates, and almost all expatriates we talked to were too afraid to appear on-camera. Inside their compound, a lack of information fuels fears.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I feel fear, and I see fear in others. It makes it even more fearful for me. And my compound, my villa, my house that I'm living in is like a fort for me now.

ROBERTSON (voice-over): Of these three men we talked with at a different compound, two have already decided to leave, let down, they say, by their managers, who were Americans.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: What we're experiencing in our company -- we're never getting information from our managers, and we don't know what's going on all the time.

ROBERTSON: The day after Paul Johnson was kidnapped, the worst, they say...

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: We returned to work the day after, and we had a small gathering. Basically, it was discussing work situations there. The security issue wasn't even mentioned. That was very disheartening to see the company take such a nonchalant attitude towards a situation that was really on everyone's mind.

ROBERTSON: But that, they say, is only one of their problems with those managers.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: At this time, our company requires us to submit a 90-day notice. According to the Saudi labor law, if the contract is for an unspecified period, and you're paid on a monthly basis, you would only have to turn in a 30-day notice.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: And the companies that we seem to be employed by seem to really kind of bypass that. And they're, in a sense, keeping us here, many of us against the will that we have to go.

ROBERTSON: Elsewhere in the country, this expatriate husband and wife feel similar pressures.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Well, we feel more confined. We look over our shoulders. And we are prepared to leave if we have to. We don't want to leave. We like it here. We came here to stay for a while.

ROBERTSON: For them, the difference has been having an understanding Saudi employer.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: They have acted very swiftly and positively, and have been listening to our concerns. There were community meetings about safety. Things have been changed almost overnight. They're being changed daily. Rules have been relaxed. We are allowed to keep passports.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: They've also relaxed the ability for us to leave at a moment's notice. It used to require a 30-day notice, but it's very unique. We've heard of other companies where, when contracts expired, people were kept on.

ROBERTSON: At an unprecedented meeting between Western diplomats, business leaders, and the Saudi foreign minister recently, security and quality life for expats was top of the agenda, both sides saying discussions went well, businessmen encouraged by what they heard.

GENE HECK, AMERICAN BUSINESS GROUP: We got a better feeling for their sense of commitment. And I think we tried to share ways we could help them.

ROBERTSON: Back at the Arizona compound, waiting to see what happens next, an unwanted pastime.

(on-camera): It's not clear exactly how many Western expatriate workers have already left Saudi Arabia, or how many will leave in the coming months. But what is clear is whether or not they continue to come in the future will be determined as much by Saudi security as it will be by the way their companies respond to their needs and fears.

Nic Robertson, CNN, the Arizona compound, Saudi Arabia.

(END VIDEOTAPE)

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Aired July 15, 2004 - 13:58   ET
THIS IS A RUSH TRANSCRIPT. THIS COPY MAY NOT BE IN ITS FINAL FORM AND MAY BE UPDATED.
KYRA PHILLIPS, CNN ANCHOR: Up first this hour, a new approach to what is fast becoming an old predicament in the new Iraq. On a day when yet another car-bombing killed 10 people, yet another oil pipeline was badly damaged and yet another household wiped out by an errant mortar.
Iraq's new prime minister vowed to annihilate insurgents with a new intelligence service, the General Security Directorate. We get the details now from CNN's Michael Holmes in Baghdad.

(BEGIN VIDEOTAPE)

MICHAEL HOLMES, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Just a day after the massive car bomb outside the Green Zone here in Baghdad, further north at a depot there was another car bomb and another death toll. There were 10 people killed in this car bomb. It was a large bomb. More than 30 were injured, many of them critically injured. The target, apparently, a police station. And indeed, among the dead were four police. The bomb was so large, however, that several other buildings were damaged as well.

Now in Kirkuk, also in the north, a tragic incident. What happened there apparently was insurgents were firing mortars at a police station. However they missed their mark and two mortars crashed into a residential house. Five members of the same family were killed, including three children and two other members of that family were wounded as well.

Now, in Baghdad, a news conference by the interim Prime Minister Ayad Allawi, in which he virtually said he was going to take the fight to the insurgents -- he announced the setting up of a domestic intelligence agency.

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

AYAD ALLAWI, IRAQI INTERIM PRIME MINISTER (through translator): The security situation is a continuing improvement, as a result of the combined efforts of the ministries of defense, interior, and the national security advisor, and a great number of government institutions. I have met with a number of sheiks, tribal dignitaries, and I urge them to engage in the necessary cooperation with the Iraqi security forces as a contribution to ensuring security for the Iraqi people.

(END VIDEO CLIP) HOLMES: The prime minister went out of his way to reassure Iraqis long suspicious of intelligence services under Saddam Hussein that this would be different. It would have much oversight, he said, civilian oversight. And his interior minister said everyone who would be hired to fulfill a role in this new spy agency domestically would have to have, in his words, "clean hands." Michael Holmes, CNN, Baghdad.

(END VIDEOTAPE)

CAROL LIN, CNN ANCHOR: And a gruesome discovery as well in Iraq. A headless body found on the outskirts of Mosul leads police there to think they may have been wrong about the fate of two Bulgarian hostages. Despite reports on Al-Jazeera Television, Mosul police had asserted both Bulgarian truck drivers captured several days earlier were safe. The corpse's identity has not yet been confirmed.

And then, there's Angelo de la Cruz, full of hope and filled with thanks for his country's apparent compliance with his captors' demands. The Filipino truck driver and father of eight was seen again today on Al-Jazeera, reportedly telling his family, quote, "Wait for me. I'm coming back."

Al Jazeera quotes his kidnappers as saying that won't happen until the last of the Philippines' 51 peacekeeping troops leave Iraq.

PHILLIPS: Topping political news, a speculation that Republican Senator John McCain was Senator John Kerry's first pick for a running mate. Kerry admits discussing the possibility with McCain, but says that's as far as it went. He talked about it on "Imus in the Morning," on his radio program today.

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

SEN. JOHN KERRY, (D-MA), PRESIDENTIAL. CANDIDATE: A lot of Republicans, actually, and others came to me and said, "You really ought to think about, you know, having John McCain in a sort of unity fusion ticket." There were some overtures made to me. John and I chatted briefly about whether or not it was even something that could be explored.

And basically, John McCain said he didn't want to explore it. He didn't think it was right. It didn't feel right to him. It wasn't something he wanted to do, and we didn't explore it. No offer was ever made.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

PHILLIPS: Well, Kerry is taking advantage of the president's falling out with the NAACP. He spoke to the group, the civil rights group, in Philadelphia today, and he accused President Bush of dividing America by race and wealth. His comment comes after the White House passed on scheduling President Bush to speak to NAACP delegates.

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) KERRY: I understand you've been having trouble getting some speakers. So I want to thank you for the invitation. Some people may have better things to do. But there's no place that I'd rather be right now than right here in Philadelphia with the NAACP.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

PHILLIPS: John Kerry is talking about President Bush's spat with the NAACP, still causing ripples, I guess you could say. Our Kathleen Koch joins us live from Washington with more -- Kathleen.

KATHLEEN KOCH, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Kyra, here at the White House, the official word is that this happened because of scheduling issues. Now, as a candidate back in 2000, then Governor George Bush did speak to the annual meeting of the NAACP, saying that he was proud to address the group, and admitting himself that it was an organization that some Republicans do choose to avoid.

Clearly, though, things have changed over the last four years. The president, when reporters last week asked him why he was not meeting with the NAACP this week, said, quote, "I would describe my relationship with the current leadership as basically non-existent. You've heard the rhetoric and the names they've called me."

This afternoon, President Bush's spokesman echoed his words, but defended his record.

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

SCOTT MCCLELLAN, WHITE HOUSE SPOKESMAN: It really is disappointing to see the current leadership continue to repeat the hostile rhetoric that they have used, which really shows that they're not interested in a constructive dialogue. Nevertheless, the president is committed to continuing to reaching out to the African- American community, and committed to continuing reaching out to NAACP members.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

KOCH: As evidence of that, McClellan pointed out that earlier this month, President Bush met with civil rights leaders to celebrate the 40th anniversary of the Civil Rights Act here in the United States. He also pointed out that next week in Detroit, the president will be speaking to the meeting of another civil rights group, the National Urban League.

Still, it is very important to point out that over the years, throughout his presidency, the president has come under increasing criticism for not meeting regularly with civil rights groups, with African-American groups, including the Congressional Black Caucus, on a variety of important issues, from welfare reform to Haiti.

So Kyra, here we see a rift getting deeper.

PHILLIPS: We'll continue to follow it. Kathleen Koch live from the White House. Thanks -- Carol. LIN: Kyra, at this hour, the Democratic vice presidential hopeful is on the road in New Orleans. John Edwards is kicking off the Democrats' front porch tour. He and John Kerry are running parallel stops across the country to meet with American families. Now, during the Louisiana stop, Edwards will talk about Kerry's tax plan to help middle class families.

PHILLIPS: It was on the front page of The New York Times, but the White House says it's not true. Persistent rumblings about Vice President Dick Cheney being dumped from the ticket. We're going to talk about it. All in the family -- what it's like to have Al Qaeda kingpin Osama bin Laden as an in-law? A woman who met him face to face talks to CNN.

And who's apt to lie more, a man or a woman? The true scoop on what the sexes lie about, straight ahead.

(COMMERCIAL BREAK)

LIN: So was it a tornado that devastated a neighborhood in Campbelltown, Pennsylvania? Residents are certain of it. Officials are, though, still looking at the data and the damage. A closer look now from WGAL reporter Susan Shapiro.

(BEGIN VIDEOTAPE)

SUSAN SHAPIRO, WGAL REPORTER (voice-over): As you drive through Country Squire Estates in Campbelltown, you see destroyed and damaged homes on every street. At least 30 are marked with spray paint, identifying damage.

DEARAN QUIGLEY, NATIONAL INSPECTION AGENCY: Right now, we're just sort of taking an inventory of what the situation is.

SHAPIRO: Residents are trying to deal with the devastation, but it is overwhelming.

JOE MANNIGA (ph), CAMPBELLTOWN RESIDENT: I don't even know where to start. I was trying to think of an order of which to start picking things up. What's important? The clouds going to stay here, should I get a trailer -- I don't know where to start.

DENISE BLOCK, CAMPBELLTOWN RESIDENT: My husband grew up in Missouri and he says this is what Tornadoes do. They hit one side of the street, can be fine, and the other side, horrible. And it's true.

SHAPIRO: There are many memorable sights here -- a resident on a very open second floor of a home with no roof, a canoe wrapped around a tree, and a toilet just sitting in the middle of a leveled home.

JOE NOVESEL, JODI LENINGTON'S FATHER: She saw it coming, and she knew she couldn't make it to the basement, so she jumped in...

UNIDENTIFIED WOMAN: To the little powder room.

JOE NOVESEL: ... powder room. That's what's left of the powder room.

SHAPIRO: Jodi Lenington was critically injured when the storm leveled her home. Her parents and husband are trying to salvage what they can.

LOIS NOVESEL, JODI LENINGTON'S MOTHER: Here we are, trying to see whatever we can salvage for here, because she's up there and she just keeps saying, "My house, mother, my house" And I told her, "I'll stay here all day if I have to and do whatever I can for her."

JERRY LENINGTON, HUSBAND: It was a great home. We just had it the way we wanted it. But it's a little bit different now.

(END VIDEOTAPE)

LIN: That's an understatement. Our thanks to Susan Shapiro, our reporter from WGAL. Now, state officials say it will be a day or two before they make a determination on disaster relief -- Kyra.

PHILLIPS: Other news across America now, a Florida woman has been charged with animal cruelty for putting her pig in the trunk of her car to take it to the scene of an escaped tiger. Well, she was offering the pig as tiger bait. Officers turned her down. They later shot and killed that tiger, which belonged to an actor.

Thanks, but no thanks. Former Chicago Bears Coach Mike Ditka says he will not run for a Senate seat in Illinois. Ditka says he was honored to be approached by Republican leaders, but has business commitments. He runs a restaurant and is an analyst on ESPN.

The politics of weight loss. The makers of Slim-Fast are dropping Whoopi Goldberg as spokeswoman because of comments she made at a John Kerry fundraiser. Goldberg made some sexually explicit remarks about President Bush at the event. Some conservative groups threatened to boycott Slim-Fast if it did not take action.

LIN: Well, when it comes to telling the truth, who is more challenged, men or women? We're taking out our lie detector and putting the sexes to the test, and the results may actually surprise you. Our Heidi Collins has part four in our series about lying.

(BEGIN VIDEOTAPE)

HEIDI COLLINS, CNN REPORTER (voice-over): It's a refrain as old as time. Women say men basically lie to get what they want.

GWENDOLYN ROBINSON: He started telling me about all these visions that god was giving him as far as being the right person in his life. Once I found the marriage licenses and I knew he was still married to these women, I didn't want to see it happen to someone else.

COLLINS: Are men always the liars and women the ones who believe them? Get ready for the truth. The researchers say women lie the same amount as men. What's different about the sexes is what they lie about. DORY HOLLENDER, "101 LIES MEN TELL WOMEN": A lot of men feel that they have to compete with other men who have more money, who have a better job, who have more status. And so, men will invent themselves and reinvent themselves in order to be attractive to a woman. Some men even lie about their eye color.

COLLINS: One study found that men lie to enhance their self- esteem. The same study found women are more likely to lie to spare the feelings of others.

HOLLENDER: The most common places that women protect the relationship are in the sanctity of the bedroom, where a woman will say that she's sexually fulfilled and she's not. She wants to protect his ego. She wants to make him feel good about her, about the relationship, and about his performance.

COLLINS: But these days, women may be telling different kinds of lies about what happens in the bedroom. A recent poll shows that the number of married women in America who have had affairs is rising -- still less than men, but going up 50 percent in a decade.

HOLLENDER: Understand that people lie, you lie, I lie, we all lie. But some lies are going to be not acceptable, and that's where you have to draw your line in the sand. Lies of evasion are really hurtful.

(END VIDEOTAPE)

LIN: More tomorrow in part five of our series. We're going to tell you how to figure out when someone is lying to you.

PHILLIPS: Carol, you know this. I'm a scratch golfer. I drive about 325. I used to play on the tour. And I can say this because I am one: a golfer who is a terrible liar. But this is one shot where the truth is the best story of all. Licking the postage stamp later on LIVE FROM...

(COMMERCIAL BREAK)

LIN: Well, combating terrorism is a major priority for Saudi Arabia. Recent attacks on expatriates are driving many of them to leave the oil-rich nation, and others to step up security. CNN senior international correspondent Nic Robertson has more on the challenge of keeping expats safe in Saudi Arabia.

(BEGIN VIDEOTAPE)

NIC ROBERTSON, CNN SENIOR INTERNATIONAL CORRESPONDENT: Blue skies, immaculate greens. A golfer's paradise. Well, almost. The high security wall and regular security patrols giving away this is no normal fairway... but one of Saudi Arabia's premier compounds for expatriate workers and their families.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: The security provided by the compound, I mean it is just amazing. I mean, as you come in, I mean, there are three security blocks, everybody's checked, everything is on camera, the guards all over the place. So it really, it does give you piece of mind.

ROBERTSON: Until now, the Saudi owners kept this housing compound a carefully guarded secret. But with growing fears about attacks on Westerners, they've opened the gates for the first time to show that expats can live here safely.

(on-camera) But not all expatriates have this level of security. U.S. engineer Paul Johnson was kidnapped just a few miles from these gates, and almost all expatriates we talked to were too afraid to appear on-camera. Inside their compound, a lack of information fuels fears.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I feel fear, and I see fear in others. It makes it even more fearful for me. And my compound, my villa, my house that I'm living in is like a fort for me now.

ROBERTSON (voice-over): Of these three men we talked with at a different compound, two have already decided to leave, let down, they say, by their managers, who were Americans.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: What we're experiencing in our company -- we're never getting information from our managers, and we don't know what's going on all the time.

ROBERTSON: The day after Paul Johnson was kidnapped, the worst, they say...

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: We returned to work the day after, and we had a small gathering. Basically, it was discussing work situations there. The security issue wasn't even mentioned. That was very disheartening to see the company take such a nonchalant attitude towards a situation that was really on everyone's mind.

ROBERTSON: But that, they say, is only one of their problems with those managers.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: At this time, our company requires us to submit a 90-day notice. According to the Saudi labor law, if the contract is for an unspecified period, and you're paid on a monthly basis, you would only have to turn in a 30-day notice.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: And the companies that we seem to be employed by seem to really kind of bypass that. And they're, in a sense, keeping us here, many of us against the will that we have to go.

ROBERTSON: Elsewhere in the country, this expatriate husband and wife feel similar pressures.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Well, we feel more confined. We look over our shoulders. And we are prepared to leave if we have to. We don't want to leave. We like it here. We came here to stay for a while.

ROBERTSON: For them, the difference has been having an understanding Saudi employer.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: They have acted very swiftly and positively, and have been listening to our concerns. There were community meetings about safety. Things have been changed almost overnight. They're being changed daily. Rules have been relaxed. We are allowed to keep passports.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: They've also relaxed the ability for us to leave at a moment's notice. It used to require a 30-day notice, but it's very unique. We've heard of other companies where, when contracts expired, people were kept on.

ROBERTSON: At an unprecedented meeting between Western diplomats, business leaders, and the Saudi foreign minister recently, security and quality life for expats was top of the agenda, both sides saying discussions went well, businessmen encouraged by what they heard.

GENE HECK, AMERICAN BUSINESS GROUP: We got a better feeling for their sense of commitment. And I think we tried to share ways we could help them.

ROBERTSON: Back at the Arizona compound, waiting to see what happens next, an unwanted pastime.

(on-camera): It's not clear exactly how many Western expatriate workers have already left Saudi Arabia, or how many will leave in the coming months. But what is clear is whether or not they continue to come in the future will be determined as much by Saudi security as it will be by the way their companies respond to their needs and fears.

Nic Robertson, CNN, the Arizona compound, Saudi Arabia.

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