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Navy on recovery mission in Greenland, Interview with Blondie's Deborah Harry

Aired August 20, 2004 - 13:30   ET

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KYRA PHILLIPS, CNN ANCHOR: ...and very young crew. That plane crashed and the cause still unknown. The family members now know that the remains of their loved ones are finally coming home. Captain Tom Sparks, head of the intense (ph) recovery mission, he returned from Greenland just this week. He is here to tell us all about the details. Captain, great to have you with us.
CPT TOM SPARKS, US NAVY: Hi, Kyra, nice to be here.

PHILLIPS: Well, I'm curious. You are also an aviator. So I want to know why this mission was important, not only to you, but to the Navy and especially the family member, to bring these remains home.

SPARKS: Well, as the military always speaks about, "We take care of our own." We ensure no one is left behind in the battlefield and this was a perfect opportunity where we can put those words to action and go to a very difficult region and effect a recovery of known remains on the Kronborg Glacier in Greenland.

PHILLIPS: 1962 was when this crash happened. Why did it take so long to finally get the remains of hopefully all -- the entire number of these aviators.

SPARKS: Well, there is a long history to it. There was initial recovery efforts conducted in 1966 and at the time they thought that all aircrew were recovered but the weather conditions were degraded, they were working in a condition of two to three feet of flowing snow and at that time they did the best they could. They thought that they effected a complete recovery, but not until 1995 did the US Navy know additional remains were there on the Kronborg Glacier and during '95 and '96 was unusual warming in that part of the world and since then the climate cooled and it was a difficult area to get to.

We've been monitoring this and I was tasked with this mission in the beginning of June this year to put together a team of experts to go to the glacier to monitor the weather, first of all, and then go to the glacier if the conditions permitted. We didn't actually know for certain we were going to execute the mission this year until 30 July. That was when the weather indicated to us and the predictions were it will be warmer than usual and it certainly turned out to be much warmer than we expected. Record temperatures in Keflavik, Iceland, which is about 300 miles to the south.

We're working about 120 to 150 miles north of the Arctic Circle and the temperatures up there hovered near freezing during the day in the teens at night on average. With winds of up to 35 miles an hour constantly and at times gusts up to 55 miles an hour. As you can see from some of the pictures in the background we had to go over significant terrain, crevasses, climbing mountains, ridges, 800 feet high and being concerned of various hazards in the area to ourselves and the entire team. Things like polar bears, they're active in the area. Moolins (ph), which are holes in the ground that water rushes down into we had to be aware of. So it was important to hire the correct team to look at the weather very closely and to do it in a safe manner not to risk additional injury to ourselves.

PHILLIPS: Yeah, understandably. And I can see some of the elements here. The cadaver dogs I thought were so interesting. Right now we're looking at video of where you are sifting through the elements looking for remains. And I'm curious. By the sifting and then the cadaver dogs, tell me how it worked and when the dogs first hit a spot and you started digging and you started finding things it must have been pretty exciting to realize after all these years later, we hit it. We found it.

SPARKS: It certainly was, to go that far and put together a team knowing we were going to put together some of our shipmates was very rewarding. But we went with a systematic approach to our recovery effort. We used the cadaver dogs as you can see in the photos to pinpoint us in the general location that -- where there are remain and that area equated to about four football fields in size and from there, we used GPS and a forensic anthropologist to grid the area to a 15-meter square area and then we used individuals to walk through systematically that covered 15 square meters at a time and literally on our hands and knees centimeter by centimeter to ensure we covered the entire area of interest here to ensure no one was left behind.

In addition to that, we used Mark 26 ground penetrating radar to identify the debris field to be sure we covered the debris field. In this case, over time, the debris field covered about two to three square mile area. It's a very large area to cover in this kind of terrain.

PHILLIPS: And we're seeing the pictures of the parts of the plane that you found. A lot of things sort of frozen in time. I know you found a lot of personal things, too, of the aviators. And we're not going to get into that for the sake of privacy issues. But real quickly, Tom, we've got to go. I know the remains are going to be tested through DNA. They'll receive full honors and then you're going to meet with family members and tell them who indeed you found, right?

SPARKS: That is correct. My plan is to contact the family members starting this weekend and just relate what we saw and relate that we were 100 percent successful in our mission and also to--in the hopes that it provides some comfort and closure to those families who have waited a long time for this to occur.

PHILLIPS: Captain Tom Sparks, pretty amazing pictures. Thanks so much for telling us about the mission today.

SPARKS: Why, thank you. FREDRICKA WHITFIELD, CNN ANCHOR: Now news across America begins with the Robert Blake trial. It's not scheduled to start until November, but a former investigator who worked for Blake is already testifying today at the request of the prosecutors. William Jordan. He is more than 70 years old and prosecutors say he may not be available at the time of the trial. Blake is charged with killing his wife back in 2001.

Grief in Arkansas. Relatives of a missing 7-year-old girl got the news all families would dread. The child was found dead last night. Patricia Ann Miles was last seen Sunday getting into the van with a family friend. That person is now in jail charged with kidnapping.

And, in Texas, this huge flaming plume of gas is prompting more evacuations northeast of Houston. One day after an explosion ignited the fire a second blast was reported early this morning. Everyone within a three-mile radius is being evacuated. No injuries are reported.

And still to come on LIVE FROM: Who says four legs are better than two? A look at how this pooch, I know it's a strange sight, but it's a wonderful story. That pooch is defying the odds.

Plus -- and Kyra is getting her pipes all warmed up. She is going to try and do a duet with this woman right here.

PHILLIPS: I've got the hair going.

WHITFIELD: Stick with us. Blondie's Deborah Harry is taking us back. Way back.

(COMMERCIAL BREAK)

PHILLIPS: Without Blondie's Deborah Harry, the world may have never had a Madonna or Annie Lennox as frontwoman for the new wave band. She set the standard for current rock divas. The band had huge hits like "Call Me," "Heart of Glass," "The Tide is High," "One Way or Another" and back in the late '70s and early '80s, come on, you all remember. And the band is still turning out the songs. There is a soon to be released CD "Blondie: All Request Live." And Blondie's Deborah Harry joins us live. What a pleasure to have you.

DEBORAH HARRY, SINGER: Thank you.

PHILLIPS: I love it. I was asking you, so what does Deborah Harry do in her off time? You paint the bathroom? Hang out at the house?

HARRY: I paint the bathroom.

PHILLIPS: This is what happens to a rock diva when she chills out a little.

HARRY: Yes, my divaocity emerges. PHILLIPS: What do you think of--because I know you performed with some of the recent divas. What do you think of these young musicians, like the Jessica Simpsons and Britney Spears. It is so different from when we were loving you and coming to your concerts a number of years ago.

HARRY: I think it's sort of always been like that, a division in the industry between sort of underground-driven stuff and producer- driven stuff. And that's pretty much it.

PHILLIPS: Let's go back to 1968. I was a nice young gal at that age. And back when you were--we did a little searching through the archives and came across this album cover from "Wind in the Willows." I'm loving the hair. Now why did you go blonde? Look at you there with the folk band.

HARRY: That was my little -- I was a backup singer in the folk band. And actually, the guy sitting behind me is going to come to one of the shows. He sent me some e-mail.

PHILLIPS: So you are still good friends?

HARRY: No, I haven't seen him in years.

PHILLIPS: Really? And then in 1974 you started Blondie. How did you make the switch from the sort of low key, the dark, long hair folk band to Blondie? Did you just get a wild vision one night?

HARRY: I wanted to, you know, I wanted to break away from that. I desperately wanted to break away from that.

PHILLIPS: You broke away, sister. Let me tell you. We're looking at the fashions right now. Were these all your ideas, the clothes and the, you know, the hair?

HARRY: Some of it. Some of it was from a friend of mine Steve Sprouse. A lot of it was just whatever I could grab, whatever I could afford.

PHILLIPS: Was this the real you breaking out here? Is this Deborah Harry?

HARRY: I suppose.

PHILLIPS: No one said...

HARRY: Sometimes I'm surprised when I see what an idiot I was.

PHILLIPS: You weren't an idiot. Are you kidding me? You paved the way. Seriously, a lot of people talk about Madonna and Annie Lennox, but you started it all.

HARRY: Well, thank you. I don't know if that's truly accurate, but I certainly had my influences that came, you know, women that came before me, so... PHILLIPS: Well, you met a lot of people in the business. You've trusted a lot of people. You've probably been burned by a lot of people. I can imagine going and getting through the business. But right now, as you look back, who are you the closest to? Who do you remember as someone who really stuck by you and believed in you through the hard times, the good times the fame and the slowdown time?

HARRY: Well, I think that's a pretty obvious answer. My guitar player Chris Stein. We've been partners for so long and friends and lovers and friends again and it's just a terrific relationship and he's a wonderful person. I don't think I would have done it without him, actually.

PHILLIPS: You know what, you put your career on hold when he got sick.

HARRY: Not exactly. Not exactly.

PHILLIPS: Cared for him.

HARRY: Everything sort of collapsed at that point. It wasn't just him being sick. It was a lot of things. You know, our business fell out, our contract expired, our management quit. You know, everything happened at once.

PHILLIPS: Right. So as you look back, any regrets?

HARRY: Yeah, thousands, I'm sure.

PHILLIPS: I want to know the biggest regret and the best memory.

HARRY: Oh, I don't know if I can actually do that.

PHILLIPS: The first thing that comes to your mind.

HARRY: I think the biggest regret over all is of all the people that I've met that I didn't sort of score better with them, you know. I was sort of not very good at social things, you know. So I've sort of regretted that I didn't stay friends with John Klees (ph) or somebody like that that I met along the way. I guess, I don't know, the biggest, happiest thing?

PHILLIPS: Yeah, the happiest moment.

HARRY: I guess having "Heart of Glass" go to number one in the States. That was pretty exciting.

PHILLIPS: So when you step up to the mike and get ready to sing and think of your oldies, would that be the one song you never get tired of singing?

HARRY: No.

PHILLIPS: Is there one of those?

HARRY: You know, what we've done, we've been smart about it. We've updated them and tried to bring them around a little bit. And, well, I don't know if there's any one that I particularly loathe doing, but there are songs that we don't do.

PHILLIPS: Right.

HARRY: We sort of manage somehow. I mean, after you do something 1,000 times, or better, you can't help but be tired of it.

PHILLIPS: We're going to mention you are in concert, you are still going. You've got this new CD coming out. You are performing with Chris Stein. Your best friend and still your guitar player. Thanks for stopping by. What a pleasure. You look amazing.

HARRY: Thank you for having me on.

PHILLIPS: Really, it's my pleasure.

HARRY: I watch CNN a lot. I work in Europe a lot and I'm always watching CNN and then Atlanta comes up and I say oh, CNN Atlanta.

PHILLIPS: All right, Fred. Deborah Harry watching...

WHITFIELD: Deborah in the house. We're all little Blondie day since you let me try on the goods. I don't have the tresses, but, you know, maybe a little bit of you will rub off on me.

PHILLIPS: You learned the sign when they gave you the cap, right?

HARRY: There's a lot of different signs, but respect anyway.

PHILLIPS: We respect you, Deborah Harry, thanks so much.

WHITFIELD: Yeah, thanks for letting me play with your goods.

PHILLIPS: Can I hold on to the cap, please? Check out the sunglasses. Talk about bringing back the '80s.

WHITFIELD: And look forward to seeing you, Deborah Harry, a little bit later on this afternoon in Atlanta performing.

HARRY: Oh good. I'm glad you are going to make it.

WHITFIELD: Alright. Thanks a lot. Well, it's a story of inspiration to help end your week. Still to come -- half the legs, all the attitude. Meet a great dog that's walking tall.

Plus...

RHONDA SCHAFFLER, CNN CORRESPONDENT: From the New York Stock Exchange, coming up, a big victory for online file swappers and a big blow to the entertainment industry. I'll explain, coming up.

MICHAEL HOLMES, CNN CORRESPONDENT: And I'm Michael Holmes live in Athens covering the 2004 games. We're going to talk swimming and athletics. Merlene Ottey has made the semifinals. We'll tell you why that's important. Stay with us.

(COMMERCIAL BREAK)

PHILLIPS: You can believe the hype. Michael Phelps is making history at the Olympic Games in Greece. For the latest we go live to CNN's Michael Holmes who has that perfect position with the Acropolis in the background. Michael Phelps just winning another gold medal. A lot of swimming action going on right now.

HOLMES: There is. It's the last second to last night at the pool and then it all switches to the track, of course. But what an Olympics this guy is having. He's the one that the hype said would come in and perhaps win eight gold. In his first competition he got a bronze, so it wasn't going to happen. But he won gold again tonight, the 100 meter butterfly. If he wins in the relay tomorrow night, that will give him eight medals, at least five of them are going to be gold. He's already got five gold. If he gets those eight medals, that will tie him for the all-time medal tally in one Olympic Games. That's a record that goes back to 1980. It was won by a then Soviet gymnast. And Phelps has already got more gold medals than that gymnast had. So what a performance by him. The U.S. should be very proud of this young man.

PHILLIPS: Speaking of old time and quite a performance, this goes back to when you and I were kids, when we start talking about track and field and Merlene Ottey.

HOLMES: Now this is one of my favorite stories. Merlene Ottey, I remember her from years ago and it was years ago. It was a 1980 Moscow Games when Merlene Ottey first competed as a sprinter. 1980, she is 44 years old, and tonight, just a short time ago, she qualified for the semifinals of the 100 meter sprint. Now, what a performance by this woman. She's now running for Slovenia, by the way. She was in Jamaica 15 times the sportswoman of the year. Gives you an idea of how revered she was there. But at 44 coming out and not just in some sort of symbolic sense being at the games, she has qualified for the semifinals. This is just unbelievable. What a wonderful story Merlene Ottey is. And kudos to her and we should all be watching and cheering her on when she races in the semis tomorrow -- Kyra.

PHILLIPS: Alright. I'll be looking forward to that one on one interview from you, Michael Holmes.

HOLMES: Yeah, I wish.

PHILLIPS: I know you'll work it. I know you will. Thanks, Michael.

FREDERICKA: He'd be looking forward to that, too, then.

Well, online song and movie swapping sites have been a hotbed of legal controversy for years. But according to a new court decision, it's OK to share, kind of. Rhonda Schaffler joins us live from the New York Stock Exchange with an explainer on that one.

SCHAFFLER: Hello again, Fredricka. We're going to explain that kind of part of the story. A federal appeals court has ruled the makers of two leading file-sharing programs cannot be held liable for copyright infringement. That of course is a big blow to the entertainment industry. Recording companies might now have to go after individuals involved in file sharing instead of the companies that helped them do it. The recording industry says it's lost billions of dollars because of online file-sharing and has already sued more than 3,000 people for sharing songs. But a panel of judges says history has proven that with any new technology the markets have a way of correcting themselves. Fredricka?

WHITFIELD: All right. Best Buy might be in some trouble with the law. What's that all about?

SCHAFFLER: Indeed. It is in Ohio. The attorney general there suing Best Buy charging the electronics retailer engaged in unfair and deceptive business practices. The suit alleging Best Buy repackaged used goods and sold them as new. It also claims Best Buy also failed to honor rebates, refund and exchange programs and service contracts. Ohio wants Best Buy to reimburse customers who lost money and also wants to fine the retailer $25,000 for each violation. Shares of Best Buy, though, are trading higher this afternoon, as is the overall market. The Dow Industrial Average up 51 points right now. NASDAQ up 3.4 of a percent. That's it from Wall Street. Coming up in the next hour of LIVE FROM, how do oil prices affect you? I'll have a full report. Fredricka, Kyra? All yours 'til then.

WHITFIELD: Alright. Thanks a lot, Rhonda.

PHILLIPS: If you think you've seen everything. Take a look at this next story.

WHITFIELD: Yeah, it's pretty remarkable. Faith, come on, Faith. Come on, poochie. Where is Faith? Well, Faith may be taking a breather for now. It's a canine that has only two legs. But that's not stopping her. She can almost still walk like you and me. Phyllis Williams of our affiliate station KOKH is in Oklahoma City.

(BEGIN VIDEO TAPE)

RICKY HANKS, OKLAHOMA CITY RESIDENT: I think she thinks she's a human. I mean, look at her walking around. She gets along just like we do.

PHYLLIS WILLIAMS, KOKH CORRESPONDENT (VOICE-OVER): But Faith's owners say the 1 1/2-year-old is just like every other dog.

JUDE STRINGFELLOW, FAITH'S OWNER: She'll take your food off the table. She acts like any other dog any other place. She'll chase a rabbit, she'll chase a duck, she'll chase a cat.

WILLIAMS: Well, there's one noticeable difference. Faith walks upright. She was born without her front legs and with little chance of survival. But the Stringfellow family adopted her, nursed her to health and trained her to hop around. But it was another family pet that got Faith to walk like a human being. JUDE STRINGFELLOW: We had a Corgi puppy that bit her heel and took her toy away or maybe some food and she just bolted after him, one foot in front of the other.

WILLIAMS: Faith the wonder dog has made the talk show circuit and the BBC is interested in doing a story on her, too.

(on camera) Faith also has a chance to make magic on the big screen. The producers of "Harry Potter" have expressed interest in the loveable pooch.

(voice-over) The thought of Faith becoming a movie star is exciting news to Faith's other owner, 15-year-old Laura.

LAURA STRINGFELLOW, FAITH'S CO-OWNER: Harry Potter people, McGonnagall said that maybe--well, the person that plays McGonnagall, she said maybe Faith should catch a wand and run away or something. So we're really hoping she's in Hogwart's School because she is magical.

WILLIAMS: And the magic of Faith has taught her owners life lessons they'll never forget.

JUDE STRINGFELLOW: I used to be a little more prejudice with handicap people. Maybe I scooted out of their way or ran past them. I should have been more gentle, more caring, more compassionate and she's brought that home to me.

LAURA STRINGFELLOW: I seriously see a best friend, a guardian angel, something very special.

(END VIDEO TAPE)

WHITFIELD: Wow. Teaching some life lessons there.

PHILLIPS: Faith better get an agent. "Harry Potter."

WHITFIELD: Sign him up--or her up.

PHILLIPS: Well, coming up in the second hour of LIVE FROM and the Swift Boat ads against John Kerry, are they swaying your opinion? We're taking your e-mails. Send them to livefrom@cnn.com. LIVE FROM's hour of power begins right after this.

PHILLIPS: Political battle over a divisive war. A new ad attacking John Kerry's Vietnam record. What impact will it have on the race for the White House?

WHITFIELD: Holy shrine at the center of a bloody standoff. The latest developments in a stalemate crucial to the future of Iraq.

Record high oil prices hitting an already weakened American economy. What will it mean for your bottom line?

And airport security. When Senator Ted Kennedy makes a pre- flight terror-watch list, is the system really working? From the CNN Center in Atlanta, I'm Fredricka Whitfield in for Miles O'Brien.

PHILLIPS: And I'm Kyra Phillips. This hour's CNN LIVE FROM starts right now.

Up first this hour, divisive war, a presidential contest, bad blood on both sides. The contest is Bush vs. Kerry 2004, but the war ended decades earlier. You may not know that the battles over who did what, who said what and who is being funded by whom.

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KYRA PHILLIPS, CNN ANCHOR: ...and very young crew. That plane crashed and the cause still unknown. The family members now know that the remains of their loved ones are finally coming home. Captain Tom Sparks, head of the intense (ph) recovery mission, he returned from Greenland just this week. He is here to tell us all about the details. Captain, great to have you with us.
CPT TOM SPARKS, US NAVY: Hi, Kyra, nice to be here.

PHILLIPS: Well, I'm curious. You are also an aviator. So I want to know why this mission was important, not only to you, but to the Navy and especially the family member, to bring these remains home.

SPARKS: Well, as the military always speaks about, "We take care of our own." We ensure no one is left behind in the battlefield and this was a perfect opportunity where we can put those words to action and go to a very difficult region and effect a recovery of known remains on the Kronborg Glacier in Greenland.

PHILLIPS: 1962 was when this crash happened. Why did it take so long to finally get the remains of hopefully all -- the entire number of these aviators.

SPARKS: Well, there is a long history to it. There was initial recovery efforts conducted in 1966 and at the time they thought that all aircrew were recovered but the weather conditions were degraded, they were working in a condition of two to three feet of flowing snow and at that time they did the best they could. They thought that they effected a complete recovery, but not until 1995 did the US Navy know additional remains were there on the Kronborg Glacier and during '95 and '96 was unusual warming in that part of the world and since then the climate cooled and it was a difficult area to get to.

We've been monitoring this and I was tasked with this mission in the beginning of June this year to put together a team of experts to go to the glacier to monitor the weather, first of all, and then go to the glacier if the conditions permitted. We didn't actually know for certain we were going to execute the mission this year until 30 July. That was when the weather indicated to us and the predictions were it will be warmer than usual and it certainly turned out to be much warmer than we expected. Record temperatures in Keflavik, Iceland, which is about 300 miles to the south.

We're working about 120 to 150 miles north of the Arctic Circle and the temperatures up there hovered near freezing during the day in the teens at night on average. With winds of up to 35 miles an hour constantly and at times gusts up to 55 miles an hour. As you can see from some of the pictures in the background we had to go over significant terrain, crevasses, climbing mountains, ridges, 800 feet high and being concerned of various hazards in the area to ourselves and the entire team. Things like polar bears, they're active in the area. Moolins (ph), which are holes in the ground that water rushes down into we had to be aware of. So it was important to hire the correct team to look at the weather very closely and to do it in a safe manner not to risk additional injury to ourselves.

PHILLIPS: Yeah, understandably. And I can see some of the elements here. The cadaver dogs I thought were so interesting. Right now we're looking at video of where you are sifting through the elements looking for remains. And I'm curious. By the sifting and then the cadaver dogs, tell me how it worked and when the dogs first hit a spot and you started digging and you started finding things it must have been pretty exciting to realize after all these years later, we hit it. We found it.

SPARKS: It certainly was, to go that far and put together a team knowing we were going to put together some of our shipmates was very rewarding. But we went with a systematic approach to our recovery effort. We used the cadaver dogs as you can see in the photos to pinpoint us in the general location that -- where there are remain and that area equated to about four football fields in size and from there, we used GPS and a forensic anthropologist to grid the area to a 15-meter square area and then we used individuals to walk through systematically that covered 15 square meters at a time and literally on our hands and knees centimeter by centimeter to ensure we covered the entire area of interest here to ensure no one was left behind.

In addition to that, we used Mark 26 ground penetrating radar to identify the debris field to be sure we covered the debris field. In this case, over time, the debris field covered about two to three square mile area. It's a very large area to cover in this kind of terrain.

PHILLIPS: And we're seeing the pictures of the parts of the plane that you found. A lot of things sort of frozen in time. I know you found a lot of personal things, too, of the aviators. And we're not going to get into that for the sake of privacy issues. But real quickly, Tom, we've got to go. I know the remains are going to be tested through DNA. They'll receive full honors and then you're going to meet with family members and tell them who indeed you found, right?

SPARKS: That is correct. My plan is to contact the family members starting this weekend and just relate what we saw and relate that we were 100 percent successful in our mission and also to--in the hopes that it provides some comfort and closure to those families who have waited a long time for this to occur.

PHILLIPS: Captain Tom Sparks, pretty amazing pictures. Thanks so much for telling us about the mission today.

SPARKS: Why, thank you. FREDRICKA WHITFIELD, CNN ANCHOR: Now news across America begins with the Robert Blake trial. It's not scheduled to start until November, but a former investigator who worked for Blake is already testifying today at the request of the prosecutors. William Jordan. He is more than 70 years old and prosecutors say he may not be available at the time of the trial. Blake is charged with killing his wife back in 2001.

Grief in Arkansas. Relatives of a missing 7-year-old girl got the news all families would dread. The child was found dead last night. Patricia Ann Miles was last seen Sunday getting into the van with a family friend. That person is now in jail charged with kidnapping.

And, in Texas, this huge flaming plume of gas is prompting more evacuations northeast of Houston. One day after an explosion ignited the fire a second blast was reported early this morning. Everyone within a three-mile radius is being evacuated. No injuries are reported.

And still to come on LIVE FROM: Who says four legs are better than two? A look at how this pooch, I know it's a strange sight, but it's a wonderful story. That pooch is defying the odds.

Plus -- and Kyra is getting her pipes all warmed up. She is going to try and do a duet with this woman right here.

PHILLIPS: I've got the hair going.

WHITFIELD: Stick with us. Blondie's Deborah Harry is taking us back. Way back.

(COMMERCIAL BREAK)

PHILLIPS: Without Blondie's Deborah Harry, the world may have never had a Madonna or Annie Lennox as frontwoman for the new wave band. She set the standard for current rock divas. The band had huge hits like "Call Me," "Heart of Glass," "The Tide is High," "One Way or Another" and back in the late '70s and early '80s, come on, you all remember. And the band is still turning out the songs. There is a soon to be released CD "Blondie: All Request Live." And Blondie's Deborah Harry joins us live. What a pleasure to have you.

DEBORAH HARRY, SINGER: Thank you.

PHILLIPS: I love it. I was asking you, so what does Deborah Harry do in her off time? You paint the bathroom? Hang out at the house?

HARRY: I paint the bathroom.

PHILLIPS: This is what happens to a rock diva when she chills out a little.

HARRY: Yes, my divaocity emerges. PHILLIPS: What do you think of--because I know you performed with some of the recent divas. What do you think of these young musicians, like the Jessica Simpsons and Britney Spears. It is so different from when we were loving you and coming to your concerts a number of years ago.

HARRY: I think it's sort of always been like that, a division in the industry between sort of underground-driven stuff and producer- driven stuff. And that's pretty much it.

PHILLIPS: Let's go back to 1968. I was a nice young gal at that age. And back when you were--we did a little searching through the archives and came across this album cover from "Wind in the Willows." I'm loving the hair. Now why did you go blonde? Look at you there with the folk band.

HARRY: That was my little -- I was a backup singer in the folk band. And actually, the guy sitting behind me is going to come to one of the shows. He sent me some e-mail.

PHILLIPS: So you are still good friends?

HARRY: No, I haven't seen him in years.

PHILLIPS: Really? And then in 1974 you started Blondie. How did you make the switch from the sort of low key, the dark, long hair folk band to Blondie? Did you just get a wild vision one night?

HARRY: I wanted to, you know, I wanted to break away from that. I desperately wanted to break away from that.

PHILLIPS: You broke away, sister. Let me tell you. We're looking at the fashions right now. Were these all your ideas, the clothes and the, you know, the hair?

HARRY: Some of it. Some of it was from a friend of mine Steve Sprouse. A lot of it was just whatever I could grab, whatever I could afford.

PHILLIPS: Was this the real you breaking out here? Is this Deborah Harry?

HARRY: I suppose.

PHILLIPS: No one said...

HARRY: Sometimes I'm surprised when I see what an idiot I was.

PHILLIPS: You weren't an idiot. Are you kidding me? You paved the way. Seriously, a lot of people talk about Madonna and Annie Lennox, but you started it all.

HARRY: Well, thank you. I don't know if that's truly accurate, but I certainly had my influences that came, you know, women that came before me, so... PHILLIPS: Well, you met a lot of people in the business. You've trusted a lot of people. You've probably been burned by a lot of people. I can imagine going and getting through the business. But right now, as you look back, who are you the closest to? Who do you remember as someone who really stuck by you and believed in you through the hard times, the good times the fame and the slowdown time?

HARRY: Well, I think that's a pretty obvious answer. My guitar player Chris Stein. We've been partners for so long and friends and lovers and friends again and it's just a terrific relationship and he's a wonderful person. I don't think I would have done it without him, actually.

PHILLIPS: You know what, you put your career on hold when he got sick.

HARRY: Not exactly. Not exactly.

PHILLIPS: Cared for him.

HARRY: Everything sort of collapsed at that point. It wasn't just him being sick. It was a lot of things. You know, our business fell out, our contract expired, our management quit. You know, everything happened at once.

PHILLIPS: Right. So as you look back, any regrets?

HARRY: Yeah, thousands, I'm sure.

PHILLIPS: I want to know the biggest regret and the best memory.

HARRY: Oh, I don't know if I can actually do that.

PHILLIPS: The first thing that comes to your mind.

HARRY: I think the biggest regret over all is of all the people that I've met that I didn't sort of score better with them, you know. I was sort of not very good at social things, you know. So I've sort of regretted that I didn't stay friends with John Klees (ph) or somebody like that that I met along the way. I guess, I don't know, the biggest, happiest thing?

PHILLIPS: Yeah, the happiest moment.

HARRY: I guess having "Heart of Glass" go to number one in the States. That was pretty exciting.

PHILLIPS: So when you step up to the mike and get ready to sing and think of your oldies, would that be the one song you never get tired of singing?

HARRY: No.

PHILLIPS: Is there one of those?

HARRY: You know, what we've done, we've been smart about it. We've updated them and tried to bring them around a little bit. And, well, I don't know if there's any one that I particularly loathe doing, but there are songs that we don't do.

PHILLIPS: Right.

HARRY: We sort of manage somehow. I mean, after you do something 1,000 times, or better, you can't help but be tired of it.

PHILLIPS: We're going to mention you are in concert, you are still going. You've got this new CD coming out. You are performing with Chris Stein. Your best friend and still your guitar player. Thanks for stopping by. What a pleasure. You look amazing.

HARRY: Thank you for having me on.

PHILLIPS: Really, it's my pleasure.

HARRY: I watch CNN a lot. I work in Europe a lot and I'm always watching CNN and then Atlanta comes up and I say oh, CNN Atlanta.

PHILLIPS: All right, Fred. Deborah Harry watching...

WHITFIELD: Deborah in the house. We're all little Blondie day since you let me try on the goods. I don't have the tresses, but, you know, maybe a little bit of you will rub off on me.

PHILLIPS: You learned the sign when they gave you the cap, right?

HARRY: There's a lot of different signs, but respect anyway.

PHILLIPS: We respect you, Deborah Harry, thanks so much.

WHITFIELD: Yeah, thanks for letting me play with your goods.

PHILLIPS: Can I hold on to the cap, please? Check out the sunglasses. Talk about bringing back the '80s.

WHITFIELD: And look forward to seeing you, Deborah Harry, a little bit later on this afternoon in Atlanta performing.

HARRY: Oh good. I'm glad you are going to make it.

WHITFIELD: Alright. Thanks a lot. Well, it's a story of inspiration to help end your week. Still to come -- half the legs, all the attitude. Meet a great dog that's walking tall.

Plus...

RHONDA SCHAFFLER, CNN CORRESPONDENT: From the New York Stock Exchange, coming up, a big victory for online file swappers and a big blow to the entertainment industry. I'll explain, coming up.

MICHAEL HOLMES, CNN CORRESPONDENT: And I'm Michael Holmes live in Athens covering the 2004 games. We're going to talk swimming and athletics. Merlene Ottey has made the semifinals. We'll tell you why that's important. Stay with us.

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PHILLIPS: You can believe the hype. Michael Phelps is making history at the Olympic Games in Greece. For the latest we go live to CNN's Michael Holmes who has that perfect position with the Acropolis in the background. Michael Phelps just winning another gold medal. A lot of swimming action going on right now.

HOLMES: There is. It's the last second to last night at the pool and then it all switches to the track, of course. But what an Olympics this guy is having. He's the one that the hype said would come in and perhaps win eight gold. In his first competition he got a bronze, so it wasn't going to happen. But he won gold again tonight, the 100 meter butterfly. If he wins in the relay tomorrow night, that will give him eight medals, at least five of them are going to be gold. He's already got five gold. If he gets those eight medals, that will tie him for the all-time medal tally in one Olympic Games. That's a record that goes back to 1980. It was won by a then Soviet gymnast. And Phelps has already got more gold medals than that gymnast had. So what a performance by him. The U.S. should be very proud of this young man.

PHILLIPS: Speaking of old time and quite a performance, this goes back to when you and I were kids, when we start talking about track and field and Merlene Ottey.

HOLMES: Now this is one of my favorite stories. Merlene Ottey, I remember her from years ago and it was years ago. It was a 1980 Moscow Games when Merlene Ottey first competed as a sprinter. 1980, she is 44 years old, and tonight, just a short time ago, she qualified for the semifinals of the 100 meter sprint. Now, what a performance by this woman. She's now running for Slovenia, by the way. She was in Jamaica 15 times the sportswoman of the year. Gives you an idea of how revered she was there. But at 44 coming out and not just in some sort of symbolic sense being at the games, she has qualified for the semifinals. This is just unbelievable. What a wonderful story Merlene Ottey is. And kudos to her and we should all be watching and cheering her on when she races in the semis tomorrow -- Kyra.

PHILLIPS: Alright. I'll be looking forward to that one on one interview from you, Michael Holmes.

HOLMES: Yeah, I wish.

PHILLIPS: I know you'll work it. I know you will. Thanks, Michael.

FREDERICKA: He'd be looking forward to that, too, then.

Well, online song and movie swapping sites have been a hotbed of legal controversy for years. But according to a new court decision, it's OK to share, kind of. Rhonda Schaffler joins us live from the New York Stock Exchange with an explainer on that one.

SCHAFFLER: Hello again, Fredricka. We're going to explain that kind of part of the story. A federal appeals court has ruled the makers of two leading file-sharing programs cannot be held liable for copyright infringement. That of course is a big blow to the entertainment industry. Recording companies might now have to go after individuals involved in file sharing instead of the companies that helped them do it. The recording industry says it's lost billions of dollars because of online file-sharing and has already sued more than 3,000 people for sharing songs. But a panel of judges says history has proven that with any new technology the markets have a way of correcting themselves. Fredricka?

WHITFIELD: All right. Best Buy might be in some trouble with the law. What's that all about?

SCHAFFLER: Indeed. It is in Ohio. The attorney general there suing Best Buy charging the electronics retailer engaged in unfair and deceptive business practices. The suit alleging Best Buy repackaged used goods and sold them as new. It also claims Best Buy also failed to honor rebates, refund and exchange programs and service contracts. Ohio wants Best Buy to reimburse customers who lost money and also wants to fine the retailer $25,000 for each violation. Shares of Best Buy, though, are trading higher this afternoon, as is the overall market. The Dow Industrial Average up 51 points right now. NASDAQ up 3.4 of a percent. That's it from Wall Street. Coming up in the next hour of LIVE FROM, how do oil prices affect you? I'll have a full report. Fredricka, Kyra? All yours 'til then.

WHITFIELD: Alright. Thanks a lot, Rhonda.

PHILLIPS: If you think you've seen everything. Take a look at this next story.

WHITFIELD: Yeah, it's pretty remarkable. Faith, come on, Faith. Come on, poochie. Where is Faith? Well, Faith may be taking a breather for now. It's a canine that has only two legs. But that's not stopping her. She can almost still walk like you and me. Phyllis Williams of our affiliate station KOKH is in Oklahoma City.

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RICKY HANKS, OKLAHOMA CITY RESIDENT: I think she thinks she's a human. I mean, look at her walking around. She gets along just like we do.

PHYLLIS WILLIAMS, KOKH CORRESPONDENT (VOICE-OVER): But Faith's owners say the 1 1/2-year-old is just like every other dog.

JUDE STRINGFELLOW, FAITH'S OWNER: She'll take your food off the table. She acts like any other dog any other place. She'll chase a rabbit, she'll chase a duck, she'll chase a cat.

WILLIAMS: Well, there's one noticeable difference. Faith walks upright. She was born without her front legs and with little chance of survival. But the Stringfellow family adopted her, nursed her to health and trained her to hop around. But it was another family pet that got Faith to walk like a human being. JUDE STRINGFELLOW: We had a Corgi puppy that bit her heel and took her toy away or maybe some food and she just bolted after him, one foot in front of the other.

WILLIAMS: Faith the wonder dog has made the talk show circuit and the BBC is interested in doing a story on her, too.

(on camera) Faith also has a chance to make magic on the big screen. The producers of "Harry Potter" have expressed interest in the loveable pooch.

(voice-over) The thought of Faith becoming a movie star is exciting news to Faith's other owner, 15-year-old Laura.

LAURA STRINGFELLOW, FAITH'S CO-OWNER: Harry Potter people, McGonnagall said that maybe--well, the person that plays McGonnagall, she said maybe Faith should catch a wand and run away or something. So we're really hoping she's in Hogwart's School because she is magical.

WILLIAMS: And the magic of Faith has taught her owners life lessons they'll never forget.

JUDE STRINGFELLOW: I used to be a little more prejudice with handicap people. Maybe I scooted out of their way or ran past them. I should have been more gentle, more caring, more compassionate and she's brought that home to me.

LAURA STRINGFELLOW: I seriously see a best friend, a guardian angel, something very special.

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WHITFIELD: Wow. Teaching some life lessons there.

PHILLIPS: Faith better get an agent. "Harry Potter."

WHITFIELD: Sign him up--or her up.

PHILLIPS: Well, coming up in the second hour of LIVE FROM and the Swift Boat ads against John Kerry, are they swaying your opinion? We're taking your e-mails. Send them to livefrom@cnn.com. LIVE FROM's hour of power begins right after this.

PHILLIPS: Political battle over a divisive war. A new ad attacking John Kerry's Vietnam record. What impact will it have on the race for the White House?

WHITFIELD: Holy shrine at the center of a bloody standoff. The latest developments in a stalemate crucial to the future of Iraq.

Record high oil prices hitting an already weakened American economy. What will it mean for your bottom line?

And airport security. When Senator Ted Kennedy makes a pre- flight terror-watch list, is the system really working? From the CNN Center in Atlanta, I'm Fredricka Whitfield in for Miles O'Brien.

PHILLIPS: And I'm Kyra Phillips. This hour's CNN LIVE FROM starts right now.

Up first this hour, divisive war, a presidential contest, bad blood on both sides. The contest is Bush vs. Kerry 2004, but the war ended decades earlier. You may not know that the battles over who did what, who said what and who is being funded by whom.

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JOHN KERRY, VIETNAM VETERAN: They had personally raped, cut off ears, cut off heads...

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