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Aired September 29, 2004 - 13:32   ET

THIS IS A RUSH TRANSCRIPT. THIS COPY MAY NOT BE IN ITS FINAL FORM AND MAY BE UPDATED.


THIS IS A RUSH TRANSCRIPT. THIS COPY MAY NOT BE IN ITS FINAL FORM AND MAY BE UPDATED.


KYRA PHILLIPS, CNN ANCHOR: In the news right now, Detroit Police looking for a man in his 20s who shot up a home-based day care center yesterday. Officials believe the shooting was not random. A 3-year- old girl died. Two women remain hospitalized in critical condition, and a 4-month-old baby boy also sustained serious injury after being dropped by one of the women who was shot.
John Denver may have liked West Virginia, but will Martha Stewart think it's a good thing? Stewart's been ordered to serve her sentence for lying about a stock sale at a federal prison in Alderson, West Virginia. She'd asked to serve her five-month prison sentence in Danbury, Connecticut near her Westport home, and listed a Florida prison as her second choice. She's ordered to report by account October 8th.

Batting towards baseball immortality, Ichiro Suzuki added two more hits last night. The Seattle Marines topped the Oakland A's 7-2. Suzuki needs three more hits to tie, and four more hits to beat the single-season record set back in 1920 when George Sisler earned 257 hits. The Mariners have five games left in their regular season.

The last time Washington appeared on the list of Major League Baseball team, Richard Nixon was president and a man was still make trips to the moon. Now it's one small step toward reaching a possible deal, one giant leap for baseball and the nation's capital.

Old Washington senators of a different kind are gathering at the city museum, joining baseball bigwigs in a debate not involving presidential contenders, but an athletic team and a stadium.

Sean Callebs is there.

Hey, Sean.

SEAN CALLEBS, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Hey, Kyra.

Indeed, the big question of the day, will the word come down today that the Montreal Expos will indeed relocate right here to the nation's capital in Washington D.C.? Behind me, you see the city museum. And I can tell you right now, no one's being allowed inside. We had a chance to peek in there earlier. A set of risers are set up. indeed, the stage is set for what could be a 5:00 Eastern Time news conference today for the big word.

The information we have right now, that the mayor could receive a call from Major League Baseball as early as 3:00 Eastern Time today, finalizing the deal that has been talked about for quite some time. If indeed that would happen, the first time in 33 years, Kyra, as you mentioned, that Major League Baseball would be back here in the nation's capital.

PHILLIPS: So two quick questions for you. The Orioles, I know the owner -- yes, this has been a bit of contention here. Is there a little piece of the pie that they'll get if this, indeed, happens?

CALLEBS: Without question. Peter Angelos, very powerful owner of the Baltimore Orioles, has been the outspoken critic, trying to keep baseball out of the Washington D.C., northern Virginia area. Baltimore's only 40 miles from here, and that team would lose significant television revenue. And a number of fans, of course, head up from the D.C. area to lovely Camden Yards to watch baseball there.

So Major League Baseball will certainly give Angelos something. A number of figures have been tossed around, everything up to $100 million. Anything finalized hasn't been divulged yet. Of course that kind of information would come out later. But it has been a long fight for the people here in the city, Kyra, as you well know.

PHILLIPS: All right, Sean Callebs, we'll check in, find out if indeed that meeting happens and what does happen.

Thanks, Sean.

All right -- Drew.

DREW GRIFFIN, CNN ANCHOR: After two failed efforts, is the third time the charm for Washington and Major League Baseball? More to the point, is D.C. rich enough? Capitalizing on this team means spending more Major League bucks. After all, the Expos have been looking for a new home since 2002. That's when the financially troubled team was actually bought by all the other Major League owners to keep this franchise going.

We want to talk with Emilio Garcia-Ruiz, the sports editor for "The Washington Post."

Emilio, thank you for joining us.

Is this a good deal for D.C.? The city's going to have to put up, what, 400 million bucks.

EMILIO GARCIA-RUIZ, "THE WASHINGTON POST": Well, most observers think these deals are not good deals for the cities. The teams basically get a free stadium out of it. There'll be a minimal rent payment on a sliding scale, somewhere between $3 million and $5 million, but then the team gets to retain naming rights. So all they're going to do is sell the naming rights, and they can use that money to pay the rent. So it's basically a free stadium. It's a total gift by resident of Washington to Major League Baseball.

GRIFFIN: Do the residents want it?

GARCIA-RUIZ: I think they do. After 33 years there definitely is a desire to have Major League Baseball back. I think the fact you had the only two groups who were really at all realistic in chasing the Expos were from this area, northern Virginia and Washington, is a pretty good indication that there isn't any other place for the Expos to go.

GRIFFIN: This was supposed to happen at noon; now we're told it's going to happen at 5:00. Even after that, the city council has to approve the entire deal. Is it a done deal right now?

GARCIA-RUIZ: No, it's not a done deal yet. We're waiting for official word from Major League baseball. We do believe it will come this afternoon, but this is a city that was going to get the Padres, was going to get the Astros, was going to get an expansion team. We were going to get a whole lot of things, so until baseball says something, I think there's plenty of people just sitting back and waiting.

GRIFFIN: And what about the name? I played on the Senators when I was in little league.

GARCIA-RUIZ: Well, I grew up in Washington. And the Senators, for those of us who grew up here, conjure a lot of good memories. The mayor has come out and said that because Washington doesn't have own its senator, the team shouldn't be named the senators, turning this whole thing into a political issue. We'll have to wait and see. One thing for sure, whoever pays the expected $300 million that the Expos are going to cost can name the team anything it wants.

GRIFFIN: A lot of cities wanted this team, Portland, Oregon, Northern Virginia wanted it, Monterey, Mexico, there was talk of that. How did D.C. in the end get it? By promising its taxpayer dollars?

GARCIA-RUIZ: No, really, Portland and Monterey, there wasn't any there there. We sent reporters to both cities to truth-squad the bids, and there was nothing ever there. The only groups who had chances of landing this team were Washington and northern Virginia. And in the last couple months, Washington zoomed past northern Virginia by simply giving away the stadium. Northern Virginia -- Virginia Governor Mark Warner was steadfast in that he wanted the team to pay one-third of the cost of the stadium. D.C. came in and said you don't have to pay anything for the stadium. Made it pretty easy for baseball to make a decision.

GRIFFIN: Everything goes as planned, where do they play next year, and when will the new stadium be built and where?

GARCIA-RUIZ: They play at RFK Stadium, where the old senators used to play. It needs about $15 million of work just to get it to some sort of state of mediocrity, I would think, and they say it's going to take at least three seasons for the new stadium to open in Southeast Washington, about 15 blocks from the capital, near the Anacostia River.

GRIFFIN: Emilio Garcia-Ruiz, "Washington Post," thanks for joining us.

GARCIA-RUIZ: You're welcome.

GRIFFIN: Baseball in D.C., 33 years later.

Grilling the lead detective in Scott Peterson's double-murder trial.

Also, the story of one man and a hallmark moment that could curl your hair. And don't look now, but a top designer will soon be keeping with up some couture copycats for a line of affordable fashion. Details just ahead.

(BEGIN VIDEOTAPE)

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: The Wright brothers probably had no idea that the same technology used to lift them into the air in the early 1900s would be used to fly through the ocean in the 21st century.

Meet Graham Hawkes, designer of deep sea winged submersibles.

GRAHAM HAWKES, INVENTOR: It has wings, rudders. You climb in. You have a joystick, pull it back, and just literally you just rocket, jump straight out of the water.

Oh, that is unbelievable!

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: With oceans covering 71% of the earth's surface, Hawkes says the ability to move with speed and agility underwater will be an invaluable tool.

HAWKES: We're talking about the bottom of an unexplored planet. Only about two percent has ever been found. So, this kind of machine is going to be absolutely necessary to explore that.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: So far, only 25 people have forked over the $15,000 it takes to get an underwater pilots license. But Hawkes hopes that future funding will make the venture more affordable and accessible.

(END VIDEOTAPE)

(COMMERCIAL BREAK)

GRIFFIN: Four days and counting: The lead detective in the Scott Peterson case returns to the stand again today, facing another grilling from defense attorney Mark Geragos.

CNN's Ted Rowlands is following developments in, hopefully, a steady Redwood City, California, today -- Ted?

TED ROWLANDS, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Yes, things very steady today, Drew. The seventh day on the stand for Detective Craig Grogan. Took a lot longer than a lot of people thought in terms of his time on the stand. In fact, the judge told the juror yesterday that the prosecution case, which was to end at the end of this week, is going to spill into the next week and most likely take up the entire week, because of the amount of time that Grogan has been on the stand. Today, Mark Geragos has been grilling Grogan about tips that the Modesto Police Department received in the days and weeks after Laci Peterson disappeared that were not, in his estimation, followed up on. Grogan is answering specifically to one tip this morning that Geragos is going into at great length. It's somewhat compelling.

A few days after Laci Peterson was reported missing, a person called the Modesto Police Department repeatedly to tell them a story about what he saw in the neighborhood. He said he saw a pregnant woman who, in his words, was scared, urinating next to a van outside, with an individual in his 40s guarding her. Afterwards, this individual apparently escorted her to the driver's side of the van, where another male grabbed her from inside the van and pulled her in.

This person tried to tell the Modesto Police Department on several different occasion, two phone calls, even went down to a search center to tell a detective about it. It was not followed up on. And Geragos is using Craig Grogan, the lead detective, to not only tell the story and the tip, but then to accentuate the fact that it wasn't followed up on and a number of tips were not followed up on.

This is the second day of this type of questioning from Geragos. It is expected to last for the entire day. In fact, Grogan is expected to be back not only tomorrow, but Monday, as well.

GRIFFIN: Very interesting, Ted. I do want to follow up on the earthquake, a couple of -- a 4.5 and a 5 today. Any aftershocks in the courtroom?

ROWLANDS: Nothing felt up here in northern California. We're about 200 miles north of the epicenter of that quake. Definitely felt -- the initial quake was definitely felt here yesterday, of course. The trial was postponed here a little bit. They took a break because all of the jurors felt it and they just wanted to clear the courtroom. But nothing today.

GRIFFIN: All right. Ted Rowlands, Peterson case, Redwood City, California. Thanks, Ted.

PHILLIPS: An attorney for American Taliban John Walker Lindh is crying foul over a deal reached with Yaser Hamdi, another American captured in Afghanistan. And now he's asking President Bush to do something about it.

We get details from Linda Yee of CNN affiliate KRON.

(BEGIN VIDEOTAPE)

LINDA YEE, REPORTER, KRON (voice-over): Yaser Hamdi is the second, but lesser known, American-born Taliban soldier. He was arrested by the Northern Alliance in Afghanistan in 2001.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Would you like some food, John?

YEE: The same time John Walker Lindh was captured and turned over to American forces. Now, after three years in a military brig, the government is releasing Hamdi, saying he's no longer a threat to U.S. security. On those grounds, Lindh's parents appeared publicly for the first time since Lindh's plea deal and asked that their son get his sentence reduced.

FRANK LINDH, JOHN WALKED LINDH'S FATHER: John will have a life at the end of that sentence. He will have his life. And we do hope for clemency, in the meantime. We do hope that, at some point, the president would see fit to release John early.

YEE: Lindh's attorneys say it's only fair the two men should be treated the same way.

JAMES BROSNAHAN, JOHN WALKER LINDH'S ATTORNEY: Mr. Hamdi and Mr. Lindh were found in the same place and surrendered to the Northern Alliance. Mr. Hamdi and Mr. Lindh did not fight American troops at any time -- never, ever did they do that.

It seems to us as a matter of justice and, if I may use word, compassion for the president to consider reducing John Lindh's sentence.

YEE: James Brosnahan negotiated the original 20-year prison deal, he says, when American emotions were raw from the September 11th attacks. And John Lindh was labeled a terrorist by Attorney General John Ashcroft.

JOHN ASHCROFT, U.S. ATTY. GENERAL: John Walker Lindh chose to train with al Qaeda, chose to fight with the Taliban, chose to be led by Osama bin Laden.

BROSNAHAN: In that atmosphere, we did what we thought we had to do, but that atmosphere has changed in this country.

YEE: Under the terms of his deal, Lindh cannot publicly release his petition. This is a blank copy of the six-page document he filled out. Lindh's mother admits it's been a tough two years since his imprisonment.

MARILYN WALKER, JOHN WALKER LINDH'S MOTHER: I see him once a month, and I'm coping as well as I can.

(END VIDEOTAPE)

PHILLIPS: Well, the Justice Department has not commented directly on the request, but points out that Lindh did plead guilty to supporting the Taliban at the advice of his attorney.

Straight ahead, building a better home to survive hurricane season. What's the word, Rhonda?

RHONDA SCHAFFLER, CNN SR. BUSINESS CORRESPONDENT: Kyra, the word may be round when it comes to storm-proofing homes. I'm going to tell you about hurricane-proof homes coming up.

(COMMERCIAL BREAK) PHILLIPS: You know how some magazines publish fashion faux pas. Well, at least most of the time they slap a bar over the offender's face to hide the identity of the sartorially challenged.

But CNN's Jeanne Moos met someone who was a little wigged out when his trademark became a very public joke.

(BEGIN VIDEOTAPE)

JEANNE MOOS, CNN CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): How would you feel if you found yourself staring out from the front of a Hallmark card?

BRIAN CROMLEY, FMR. MALE MODEL: Someone sent it to me in the mail, and I think it's hilarious.

MOOS: Hilarious, except for the birthday greeting inside. The hair loss that comes with age isn't always a bad thing.

No wonder the Hallmark spokesperson is asking...

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Was he upset? Is Brian upset?

MOOS: Brian Cromley admits he was a little offended. At the time the photo was taken, he was modeling for trendy advertisers and cutting edge magazines.

(on camera): So you were modeling as like a good-looking guy?

CROMLEY: Right.

MOOS (voice-over): At the same time that Hallmark was using him as living proof that bald is beautiful.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Looks like it could be a wig, actually.

MOOS: Ever since Brian was a kid, his Hallmark has been his '70s looking hair, the kind celebrated by "Hair."

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Let it fly in the breeze and get caught in the trees. Give a home to the bees in my hair.

MOOS: Friends send Brian the card with notes like they wish they had your hair.

Brian signed a release for the photographer who took the picture, who then sold it to a stock photo agency, which in turn sold it to Hallmark. So Brian has no legal recourse. But he does have a message for Hallmark.

(on camera): You like your hair?

CROMLEY: I love my hair. I love my hair.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: We love your hair, too.

MOOS (voice-over): The card has proven popular, over 86,000 sold.

(on camera): Has anyone ever told you they'd like to run their fingers through it?

CROMLEY: People want to touch my hair all the time.

MOOS (voice-over): He's even been featured in a German magazine for hairdressers. But on a Hallmark card, it's enough to curl your hair.

Jeanne Moos, CNN, New York.

(END VIDEOTAPE)

GRIFFIN: Finally good news if you have a passion for fashion, but are a little stretched when it come to the cash. The Swedish clothing chain H&M teaming up with a legendary Chanel designer Karl Lagerfeld in a new line of women's wear that's high in style, but very low in price. Individual items, which will hit stores November 12th, will and range from $18 to $180. Lagerfeld says going mass market just a sign of the times, a fact that's already proven with its popular Isaac Mizrahi line.

(STOCK MARKET UPDATE)

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Aired September 29, 2004 - 13:32   ET
THIS IS A RUSH TRANSCRIPT. THIS COPY MAY NOT BE IN ITS FINAL FORM AND MAY BE UPDATED.
KYRA PHILLIPS, CNN ANCHOR: In the news right now, Detroit Police looking for a man in his 20s who shot up a home-based day care center yesterday. Officials believe the shooting was not random. A 3-year- old girl died. Two women remain hospitalized in critical condition, and a 4-month-old baby boy also sustained serious injury after being dropped by one of the women who was shot.
John Denver may have liked West Virginia, but will Martha Stewart think it's a good thing? Stewart's been ordered to serve her sentence for lying about a stock sale at a federal prison in Alderson, West Virginia. She'd asked to serve her five-month prison sentence in Danbury, Connecticut near her Westport home, and listed a Florida prison as her second choice. She's ordered to report by account October 8th.

Batting towards baseball immortality, Ichiro Suzuki added two more hits last night. The Seattle Marines topped the Oakland A's 7-2. Suzuki needs three more hits to tie, and four more hits to beat the single-season record set back in 1920 when George Sisler earned 257 hits. The Mariners have five games left in their regular season.

The last time Washington appeared on the list of Major League Baseball team, Richard Nixon was president and a man was still make trips to the moon. Now it's one small step toward reaching a possible deal, one giant leap for baseball and the nation's capital.

Old Washington senators of a different kind are gathering at the city museum, joining baseball bigwigs in a debate not involving presidential contenders, but an athletic team and a stadium.

Sean Callebs is there.

Hey, Sean.

SEAN CALLEBS, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Hey, Kyra.

Indeed, the big question of the day, will the word come down today that the Montreal Expos will indeed relocate right here to the nation's capital in Washington D.C.? Behind me, you see the city museum. And I can tell you right now, no one's being allowed inside. We had a chance to peek in there earlier. A set of risers are set up. indeed, the stage is set for what could be a 5:00 Eastern Time news conference today for the big word.

The information we have right now, that the mayor could receive a call from Major League Baseball as early as 3:00 Eastern Time today, finalizing the deal that has been talked about for quite some time. If indeed that would happen, the first time in 33 years, Kyra, as you mentioned, that Major League Baseball would be back here in the nation's capital.

PHILLIPS: So two quick questions for you. The Orioles, I know the owner -- yes, this has been a bit of contention here. Is there a little piece of the pie that they'll get if this, indeed, happens?

CALLEBS: Without question. Peter Angelos, very powerful owner of the Baltimore Orioles, has been the outspoken critic, trying to keep baseball out of the Washington D.C., northern Virginia area. Baltimore's only 40 miles from here, and that team would lose significant television revenue. And a number of fans, of course, head up from the D.C. area to lovely Camden Yards to watch baseball there.

So Major League Baseball will certainly give Angelos something. A number of figures have been tossed around, everything up to $100 million. Anything finalized hasn't been divulged yet. Of course that kind of information would come out later. But it has been a long fight for the people here in the city, Kyra, as you well know.

PHILLIPS: All right, Sean Callebs, we'll check in, find out if indeed that meeting happens and what does happen.

Thanks, Sean.

All right -- Drew.

DREW GRIFFIN, CNN ANCHOR: After two failed efforts, is the third time the charm for Washington and Major League Baseball? More to the point, is D.C. rich enough? Capitalizing on this team means spending more Major League bucks. After all, the Expos have been looking for a new home since 2002. That's when the financially troubled team was actually bought by all the other Major League owners to keep this franchise going.

We want to talk with Emilio Garcia-Ruiz, the sports editor for "The Washington Post."

Emilio, thank you for joining us.

Is this a good deal for D.C.? The city's going to have to put up, what, 400 million bucks.

EMILIO GARCIA-RUIZ, "THE WASHINGTON POST": Well, most observers think these deals are not good deals for the cities. The teams basically get a free stadium out of it. There'll be a minimal rent payment on a sliding scale, somewhere between $3 million and $5 million, but then the team gets to retain naming rights. So all they're going to do is sell the naming rights, and they can use that money to pay the rent. So it's basically a free stadium. It's a total gift by resident of Washington to Major League Baseball.

GRIFFIN: Do the residents want it?

GARCIA-RUIZ: I think they do. After 33 years there definitely is a desire to have Major League Baseball back. I think the fact you had the only two groups who were really at all realistic in chasing the Expos were from this area, northern Virginia and Washington, is a pretty good indication that there isn't any other place for the Expos to go.

GRIFFIN: This was supposed to happen at noon; now we're told it's going to happen at 5:00. Even after that, the city council has to approve the entire deal. Is it a done deal right now?

GARCIA-RUIZ: No, it's not a done deal yet. We're waiting for official word from Major League baseball. We do believe it will come this afternoon, but this is a city that was going to get the Padres, was going to get the Astros, was going to get an expansion team. We were going to get a whole lot of things, so until baseball says something, I think there's plenty of people just sitting back and waiting.

GRIFFIN: And what about the name? I played on the Senators when I was in little league.

GARCIA-RUIZ: Well, I grew up in Washington. And the Senators, for those of us who grew up here, conjure a lot of good memories. The mayor has come out and said that because Washington doesn't have own its senator, the team shouldn't be named the senators, turning this whole thing into a political issue. We'll have to wait and see. One thing for sure, whoever pays the expected $300 million that the Expos are going to cost can name the team anything it wants.

GRIFFIN: A lot of cities wanted this team, Portland, Oregon, Northern Virginia wanted it, Monterey, Mexico, there was talk of that. How did D.C. in the end get it? By promising its taxpayer dollars?

GARCIA-RUIZ: No, really, Portland and Monterey, there wasn't any there there. We sent reporters to both cities to truth-squad the bids, and there was nothing ever there. The only groups who had chances of landing this team were Washington and northern Virginia. And in the last couple months, Washington zoomed past northern Virginia by simply giving away the stadium. Northern Virginia -- Virginia Governor Mark Warner was steadfast in that he wanted the team to pay one-third of the cost of the stadium. D.C. came in and said you don't have to pay anything for the stadium. Made it pretty easy for baseball to make a decision.

GRIFFIN: Everything goes as planned, where do they play next year, and when will the new stadium be built and where?

GARCIA-RUIZ: They play at RFK Stadium, where the old senators used to play. It needs about $15 million of work just to get it to some sort of state of mediocrity, I would think, and they say it's going to take at least three seasons for the new stadium to open in Southeast Washington, about 15 blocks from the capital, near the Anacostia River.

GRIFFIN: Emilio Garcia-Ruiz, "Washington Post," thanks for joining us.

GARCIA-RUIZ: You're welcome.

GRIFFIN: Baseball in D.C., 33 years later.

Grilling the lead detective in Scott Peterson's double-murder trial.

Also, the story of one man and a hallmark moment that could curl your hair. And don't look now, but a top designer will soon be keeping with up some couture copycats for a line of affordable fashion. Details just ahead.

(BEGIN VIDEOTAPE)

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: The Wright brothers probably had no idea that the same technology used to lift them into the air in the early 1900s would be used to fly through the ocean in the 21st century.

Meet Graham Hawkes, designer of deep sea winged submersibles.

GRAHAM HAWKES, INVENTOR: It has wings, rudders. You climb in. You have a joystick, pull it back, and just literally you just rocket, jump straight out of the water.

Oh, that is unbelievable!

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: With oceans covering 71% of the earth's surface, Hawkes says the ability to move with speed and agility underwater will be an invaluable tool.

HAWKES: We're talking about the bottom of an unexplored planet. Only about two percent has ever been found. So, this kind of machine is going to be absolutely necessary to explore that.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: So far, only 25 people have forked over the $15,000 it takes to get an underwater pilots license. But Hawkes hopes that future funding will make the venture more affordable and accessible.

(END VIDEOTAPE)

(COMMERCIAL BREAK)

GRIFFIN: Four days and counting: The lead detective in the Scott Peterson case returns to the stand again today, facing another grilling from defense attorney Mark Geragos.

CNN's Ted Rowlands is following developments in, hopefully, a steady Redwood City, California, today -- Ted?

TED ROWLANDS, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Yes, things very steady today, Drew. The seventh day on the stand for Detective Craig Grogan. Took a lot longer than a lot of people thought in terms of his time on the stand. In fact, the judge told the juror yesterday that the prosecution case, which was to end at the end of this week, is going to spill into the next week and most likely take up the entire week, because of the amount of time that Grogan has been on the stand. Today, Mark Geragos has been grilling Grogan about tips that the Modesto Police Department received in the days and weeks after Laci Peterson disappeared that were not, in his estimation, followed up on. Grogan is answering specifically to one tip this morning that Geragos is going into at great length. It's somewhat compelling.

A few days after Laci Peterson was reported missing, a person called the Modesto Police Department repeatedly to tell them a story about what he saw in the neighborhood. He said he saw a pregnant woman who, in his words, was scared, urinating next to a van outside, with an individual in his 40s guarding her. Afterwards, this individual apparently escorted her to the driver's side of the van, where another male grabbed her from inside the van and pulled her in.

This person tried to tell the Modesto Police Department on several different occasion, two phone calls, even went down to a search center to tell a detective about it. It was not followed up on. And Geragos is using Craig Grogan, the lead detective, to not only tell the story and the tip, but then to accentuate the fact that it wasn't followed up on and a number of tips were not followed up on.

This is the second day of this type of questioning from Geragos. It is expected to last for the entire day. In fact, Grogan is expected to be back not only tomorrow, but Monday, as well.

GRIFFIN: Very interesting, Ted. I do want to follow up on the earthquake, a couple of -- a 4.5 and a 5 today. Any aftershocks in the courtroom?

ROWLANDS: Nothing felt up here in northern California. We're about 200 miles north of the epicenter of that quake. Definitely felt -- the initial quake was definitely felt here yesterday, of course. The trial was postponed here a little bit. They took a break because all of the jurors felt it and they just wanted to clear the courtroom. But nothing today.

GRIFFIN: All right. Ted Rowlands, Peterson case, Redwood City, California. Thanks, Ted.

PHILLIPS: An attorney for American Taliban John Walker Lindh is crying foul over a deal reached with Yaser Hamdi, another American captured in Afghanistan. And now he's asking President Bush to do something about it.

We get details from Linda Yee of CNN affiliate KRON.

(BEGIN VIDEOTAPE)

LINDA YEE, REPORTER, KRON (voice-over): Yaser Hamdi is the second, but lesser known, American-born Taliban soldier. He was arrested by the Northern Alliance in Afghanistan in 2001.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Would you like some food, John?

YEE: The same time John Walker Lindh was captured and turned over to American forces. Now, after three years in a military brig, the government is releasing Hamdi, saying he's no longer a threat to U.S. security. On those grounds, Lindh's parents appeared publicly for the first time since Lindh's plea deal and asked that their son get his sentence reduced.

FRANK LINDH, JOHN WALKED LINDH'S FATHER: John will have a life at the end of that sentence. He will have his life. And we do hope for clemency, in the meantime. We do hope that, at some point, the president would see fit to release John early.

YEE: Lindh's attorneys say it's only fair the two men should be treated the same way.

JAMES BROSNAHAN, JOHN WALKER LINDH'S ATTORNEY: Mr. Hamdi and Mr. Lindh were found in the same place and surrendered to the Northern Alliance. Mr. Hamdi and Mr. Lindh did not fight American troops at any time -- never, ever did they do that.

It seems to us as a matter of justice and, if I may use word, compassion for the president to consider reducing John Lindh's sentence.

YEE: James Brosnahan negotiated the original 20-year prison deal, he says, when American emotions were raw from the September 11th attacks. And John Lindh was labeled a terrorist by Attorney General John Ashcroft.

JOHN ASHCROFT, U.S. ATTY. GENERAL: John Walker Lindh chose to train with al Qaeda, chose to fight with the Taliban, chose to be led by Osama bin Laden.

BROSNAHAN: In that atmosphere, we did what we thought we had to do, but that atmosphere has changed in this country.

YEE: Under the terms of his deal, Lindh cannot publicly release his petition. This is a blank copy of the six-page document he filled out. Lindh's mother admits it's been a tough two years since his imprisonment.

MARILYN WALKER, JOHN WALKER LINDH'S MOTHER: I see him once a month, and I'm coping as well as I can.

(END VIDEOTAPE)

PHILLIPS: Well, the Justice Department has not commented directly on the request, but points out that Lindh did plead guilty to supporting the Taliban at the advice of his attorney.

Straight ahead, building a better home to survive hurricane season. What's the word, Rhonda?

RHONDA SCHAFFLER, CNN SR. BUSINESS CORRESPONDENT: Kyra, the word may be round when it comes to storm-proofing homes. I'm going to tell you about hurricane-proof homes coming up.

(COMMERCIAL BREAK) PHILLIPS: You know how some magazines publish fashion faux pas. Well, at least most of the time they slap a bar over the offender's face to hide the identity of the sartorially challenged.

But CNN's Jeanne Moos met someone who was a little wigged out when his trademark became a very public joke.

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JEANNE MOOS, CNN CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): How would you feel if you found yourself staring out from the front of a Hallmark card?

BRIAN CROMLEY, FMR. MALE MODEL: Someone sent it to me in the mail, and I think it's hilarious.

MOOS: Hilarious, except for the birthday greeting inside. The hair loss that comes with age isn't always a bad thing.

No wonder the Hallmark spokesperson is asking...

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Was he upset? Is Brian upset?

MOOS: Brian Cromley admits he was a little offended. At the time the photo was taken, he was modeling for trendy advertisers and cutting edge magazines.

(on camera): So you were modeling as like a good-looking guy?

CROMLEY: Right.

MOOS (voice-over): At the same time that Hallmark was using him as living proof that bald is beautiful.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Looks like it could be a wig, actually.

MOOS: Ever since Brian was a kid, his Hallmark has been his '70s looking hair, the kind celebrated by "Hair."

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Let it fly in the breeze and get caught in the trees. Give a home to the bees in my hair.

MOOS: Friends send Brian the card with notes like they wish they had your hair.

Brian signed a release for the photographer who took the picture, who then sold it to a stock photo agency, which in turn sold it to Hallmark. So Brian has no legal recourse. But he does have a message for Hallmark.

(on camera): You like your hair?

CROMLEY: I love my hair. I love my hair.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: We love your hair, too.

MOOS (voice-over): The card has proven popular, over 86,000 sold.

(on camera): Has anyone ever told you they'd like to run their fingers through it?

CROMLEY: People want to touch my hair all the time.

MOOS (voice-over): He's even been featured in a German magazine for hairdressers. But on a Hallmark card, it's enough to curl your hair.

Jeanne Moos, CNN, New York.

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GRIFFIN: Finally good news if you have a passion for fashion, but are a little stretched when it come to the cash. The Swedish clothing chain H&M teaming up with a legendary Chanel designer Karl Lagerfeld in a new line of women's wear that's high in style, but very low in price. Individual items, which will hit stores November 12th, will and range from $18 to $180. Lagerfeld says going mass market just a sign of the times, a fact that's already proven with its popular Isaac Mizrahi line.

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