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Potential Canada-based Jihad?; Fresh Lava in Mount St. Helens' Crater; Prince's Controversial New Music Video

Aired October 13, 2004 - 14:31   ET

THIS IS A RUSH TRANSCRIPT. THIS COPY MAY NOT BE IN ITS FINAL FORM AND MAY BE UPDATED.

THIS IS A RUSH TRANSCRIPT. THIS COPY MAY NOT BE IN ITS FINAL FORM AND MAY BE UPDATED.


MILES O'BRIEN, CNN ANCHOR: Welcome back to the CNN Center in Atlanta. This is LIVE FROM. I'm Miles O'Brien.
KYRA PHILLIPS, CNN ANCHOR: And I'm Kyra Phillips. Here's what's all new this half hour.

Our Paul Begala and Tucker Carlson diving into the -- actually diving into the tough issues that the candidates will face in tonight's debate. We're live from Tempe, Arizona. But actually, it's false advertising -- it's Paul Begala and Congressman J.D. Hayworth with us. But both of them went into the mosh pit.

O'BRIEN: The political mosh pit for you. And spewing forth, speaking of politics -- spewing forth, a hot time atop Mount St. Helens. We'll get to the bottom of the big lava dome ahead.

But first, here is what is happening now in the news.

Another violent 24 hours for American troops in Iraq. In the northern town of Mosul, a suicide bomber struck a U.S. convoy, killing two soldiers and wounding five others.

In Baghdad four American soldiers are dead in separate roadside bombings.

In northwestern Iraq, unearthing so-called killing fields. U.S. forces exhumed a mass grave site and and uncovered the remains of scores of people, possibly even hundreds -- many believed to be the bodies of Kurdish women and children. Investigators are hoping the scientific evidence will help convict the former Iraqi dictator on crimes against humanity.

President Bush and Senator John Kerry prepping for their third and final debate in Arizona tonight. The battle: all things domestic -- including jobs, healthcare, and taxes. The president was endorsed today by the National Rifle Association, promising to spend millions of dollars to help him get reelected.

And Senator Kerry is already taking a few swings at President Bush. The Kerry campaign has released a new ad that accuses the president of misleading voters about the Democratic healthcare plan. It criticizes Bush over the rising costs of healthcare.

Well, the heat will likely rise on stage in Tempe tonight when the two candidates take their final face-to-face swipes at one another in the fight for those critical undecided voters. It's always a bit nasty. That's how the First Lady describes the campaign process. She spoke last night to CNN's Larry King.

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

LAURA BUSH, FIRST LADY OF THE UNITED STATES: I think that's just a fact of life in politics. And you know it is when you throw your hat in the ring that that's what it's going to be like, especially for this big job, for the president of the United States -- but really, for any political race.

I mean, ask anybody who runs for school board or -- you know, there's a part of a political race, the competitive part, that is always a little bit nasty, and that's just the way it is. That's just competition.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

O'BRIEN: The third and final debate gets underway tonight, 9:00 p.m. Eastern time. Our live primetime coverage begins two hours prior.

PHILLIPS: Well, to the war on terror now, and the Middle East is typically thought of as an origin of Islamic terrorism. But since 9/11, officials in the U.S. have begun looking nervously to the north.

CNN's Deborah Feyerick recently spoke with Canadian experts about a potential jihad brewing up there.

(BEGIN VIDEOTAPE)

DEBORAH FEYERICK, CNN CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): They came to Canada to a new life, then gave it up, instead choosing holy war against the West.

MARTIN RUDNER, CANADIAN SECURITY EXPERT: Well, this is, of course, extremely disconcerting for Canada, for Canadians, not only that it happened, but that the recruitment took place in this country of young Canadians educated in Canadian schools.

FEYERICK: Canadian officials say many are disciples of Osama bin Laden. Of the 25 known Canadian terror suspects, four have direct links to major attacks, including: an alleged 9/11 recruiter; a suspected trainer for the 1998 U.S. embassy bombings in east Africa; a confessed scout for the Bali disco bombings; and a man leaving Canada, caught with a truckload of explosives meant for a millennium attack at Los Angeles Airport. At least three Canadians caught in Afghanistan are now in Guantanamo.

REID MORDEN, CANADIAN SECURITY EXPERT: The people who come more recently tend to have a more radical view of things, then perhaps bring with them some of the conflicts they left behind in their homelands.

FEYERICK (on camera): Muslims with ties to jihad began arriving in Canada more than a dozen years ago -- security officials first seeing Algerians, Moroccans, Tunisians, then came Egyptians, followed in the late '90s by a small group who had trained in Afghanistan.

(voice-over): A wave that caught Canadians by surprise.

RUDNER: We were naive. We did not read their text. We did not assess their intentions. After 9/11, it became quite clear what their intentions were, that this was a sanctuary for global jihad.

FEYERICK: The problem may be growing. A recent study by the New York Based Council on Foreign Relations finds in Canada and elsewhere, new Saudi-funded Islamic centers are preaching a kind of Islam that encourages violence against the West, helping to create the next generation of terrorists.

But a lawyer who defends several Muslims in Canadian custody says some of the immigrants who fought against Communists in Afghanistan are being targeted for the very lives they tried to leave behind.

BARBARA JACKMAN, IMMIGRATION AND REFUGEE LAWYER: They weren't terrorists at that time, but now that past history is being used against people.

FEYERICK: In a country known for giving immigrants fresh starts, clerics say Muslims are feeling the heat.

IMAM ALY HINDY, SALAHEDDIN ISLAMIC CENTER: This is what we are suffering from. People are afraid to donate money. People are afraid to even transfer money. People are afraid to travel.

FEYERICK: One fear created by another, as Canadians struggle to come to terms with homegrown Islamic militancy without undermining the country's strong liberal traditions.

Deborah Feyerick, CNN, Toronto.

(END VIDEOTAPE)

PHILLIPS: And we're keeping an eye and watching and waiting for Mount St. Helens to blow its top again. What's going on underneath that mountain? We're going to give you a peek deep inside the volcano.

Already one of the more controversial pop stars, Prince's new video is sure to really tick off a lot of people. Stay tuned and find out why.

ANNOUNCER: You're watching LIVE FROM on CNN, the most trusted name in news.

(COMMERCIAL BREAK)

PHILLIPS: Live pictures from Tempe, Arizona, where folks are getting ready for the third debate tonight between John Kerry and President Bush. We'll talk with the "CROSSFIRE" guys coming up in just a little bit as soon as they get seated, fight their way through the crowd. They're probably working the crowd -- that's what it is. Other news across America now -- sharing can be a good thing, especially when it comes to a huge lottery jackpot. Thirty-three workers at a printing company are splitting $117 million after one of their tickets won the Powerball lottery this weekend. That's the lump-sum payment option for the $214 million jackpot. Each winner gets about 2.2 million bucks. Not bad.

In Northern California, a suspicious wildfire -- the blaze that started in Rumsey on Sunday has now spread to nearly 30,000 acres thanks to dry brush and swirling winds. Now, a voluntary evacuation is in place for one lakeside community. Investigators are looking into that fire, saying it may have been arson.

Things are also heating up at Mount St. Helens. Temperatures in the volcano's crater have been above 1,000 degrees with fresh new flowing lava. The mountain has been shaking since September 23rd. As for an eruption, scientists say it's still possible, but not imminent.

O'BRIEN: Those are amazing pictures, aren't they, Kyra? Let's take a look at them one more time. It's the first time in the three weeks since Mount St. Helens sort of awakened from her slumber that we've seen magma rise to the surface, which by definition becomes lava. Magma, which is in the center and beneath the earth, when it erupts is called lava.

Been a series of earthquake rumblings, and you can see very clearly there in that part of the world, there is some very hot lava flowing. And what is happening is a new lava dome is forming. As a matter of fact, they detected a new rock there -- 200 feet long, 60 feet high. And get this -- that rock, as it cools, is 1,000 degrees, still, Fahrenheit. Hotter than a beach in August in Miami or something.

Let's take a look at some satellite imagery, give you a sense of the lay of the land of where those pictures are coming from. Obviously, here's the big wide picture of United States. Let's zoom in to Mount St. Helens.

And as you know, in 1980, Mount St. Helens erupted, killing 57 people. It was a mountain that lost well in excess of a thousand feet of the top of the mountain. There you can see to top there. That top section there is where the mountain used to come to a very gentle peak like that -- well, maybe not so gentle a peak.

In any case, as we go down here, let me tell you a little bit about this lava dome and what's going on right now as that magma rises to the surface becoming lava. That dome that is currently in the middle, it is about 900 feet above the crater that lies beneath it. And it took about six years post-eruption for that to occur.

Now, what is happening now is all in this crater area -- sort of the path of least resistance, because the lava dome actually is kind of strong -- that's where we're finding these indications of lava. And possibly what is happening is another lava dome is building, which might actually eclipse the current one. What you're seeing essentially is Mount St. Helens rebuilding itself, renewing its growth. If we had enough time, we could see it probably get right back that thousand feet or so it lost in 1980.

Take a look at this model we put together to give you a sense of what's going on beneath the surface. There you see what -- we call these things stratovolcanoes. That's what it looked like before 1980, more or less. Kind of an artistic license taken there.

As we zoom in, let's cut away and show you what's going on beneath the surface. And beneath he surface, you got a lot of magma. Of course, the center of the earth filled with magma, which is molten rock. Molten rock is lighter than regular rock. It rises to the surface, in some cases, going -- taking little avenues out this way, which is what happened in 1980, causing the eruption -- which in the case of the stratovolcanoes and Mount St. Helens doesn't cause so much of a lava flow as a so-called pyroclastic flow, which means big hunks of magma sort of harden up in midair causing what is called tephra, which is flying, newly-minted rocks.

And believe me, Kyra, when that happens, you don't want to be in the way. You there?

PHILLIPS: I always stay out of your way, Miles.

Let's go to Hollywood now. It's Prince's controversial new video that's shaking and rumbling the entertainment world. CNN entertainment correspondent Sibila Vargas has details on that and a lot more, of course, from Los Angeles. Hi, Sibila.

SIBILA VARGAS, CNN ENTERTAINMENT CORRESPONDENT: Hi, Kyra.

You know, yesterday I told you about some music video controversy between Eminem and Michael Jackson, but today it's Prince that's making the headlines.

A new video from the singer, which isn't playing on MTV yet, is already causing a stir. The video, called "Cinnamon Girl," stars actress Keisha Castle-Hughes from "Whale Rider" fame as an Arab- American girl living in America post 9/11.

Now, one of the scenes has her imagining herself detonating a bomb in a crowded airport terminal -- which you know, Kyra, in this highly sensitized climate is bound to raise a few eyebrows.

PHILLIPS: All right, so I want to know if Prince is saying anything about this video. This is the first chance I've had to actually look at it, so forgive me for sort of hesitating there. But has Prince said anything about the controversy, and what's his purpose behind it?

VARGAS: Yeah, you know, he has not said much. We talked to a spokesperson for Prince, and he told us that the artist has no comments, but that his goal is for people to see it and form their own opinions. MTV says that they'll begin airing the video next week on mtvU and expects to add it to MTV and MTV2 in the next few weeks. In the meantime, fans are able to see "Cinnamon Girl" online. And as you can see, you're seeing it right now. So, this is a first.

OK, enough about music videos. Jim Carrey wants to pledge his allegiance to the United States of America. Well, now he'll get his chance. The Canadian-born actor has become a United States citizen. The star of "Dumb and Dumber" and "Bruce Almighty" has expressed interest in voting in U.S. elections. And Carrey says he has no intention of giving up his Canadian heritage and will hold dual citizenship.

And here's some entertainment news from down under. You may seeing Aussies Nicole Kidman and Russell Crowe heating things up on the big screen. The Oscar-winning pair up for leading roles in the Australia romance fable "Eucalyptus." Crowe is set to star, and Kidman is still in negotiations.

And speaking about Aussies and Oscar winners, Mel Gibson is feeling very passionate these days. The actor has donated $10 million to two hospitals in Los Angeles. The money will be split between Mattel Children's Hospital at UCLA and Cedars-Sinai Medical Center to help care for children from foreign countries.

And Kyra, who says actors don't put their money where their mouth is?

PHILLIPS: All right, Sibila. That's true. A lot of them out there doing some great things. Sibila Vargas, thank you so much.

VARGAS: Thank you.

PHILLIPS: Two other people out there doing some great things -- so we hope -- our "CROSSFIRE" guys. I am told they're in the chairs, ready to go. Look at those two handsome men, Paul Begala and Congressman J.D. Hayworth.

PAUL BEGALA, CO-HOST, "CROSSFIRE": Where? Where are they?

PHILLIPS: I was talking about J.D., Paul? Anyway, we're going to take a quick break, and we're going to see if these guys can put up a good fight. We'll be right back.

REP. J.D. HAYWORTH (R), ARIZONA: Absolutely. Here we go.

BEGALA: All right.

HAYWORTH: Here we go.

(COMMERCIAL BREAK)

PHILLIPS: Well, the stage is set, literally -- Arizona State University for the third and final presidential debate of the election year. President Bush, Senator John Kerry, and 90 minutes of exchanging views over domestic policy and the economy. Let's get a preview. Let's head to Tempe. Joining me, CNN "CROSSFIRE" co-host Paul Begala and J.D. Hayworth, Republican Congressman from Arizona's fifth district -- already getting excited behind you both.

I'm just wondering, Congressman, has Paul been nice to you?

HAYWORTH: Oh, Paul has always been nice, but this is what America is about, Kyra. We agree to disagree, and we settle questions in this wonderful Constitutional republic through ballots and not bullets. And that's so great about life in these United States.

And Kyra, we welcome you, I guess we'd say through the miracle of satellite technology, to the fifth Congressional district of Arizona. We are so pleased to be hosting this third debate...

BEGALA: Paul, you got your boots on?

HAYWORTH: ... on the campus of Arizona State University.

PHILLIPS: You got the boots on, Paul?

BEGALA: How great is that? I'm sorry, Kyra, say again?

PHILLIPS: I said you got your boots on? It's getting thick over there.

BEGALA: Have I got -- I've got my boots on...

HAYWORTH: Ooh, Kyra, now, you're a little irreverent. Shame on you. We mean this.

BEGALA: He is right. This is his district, and I have to say the people have been wonderful to see, and they've been great to me. Makes me think that maybe this is more of a blue state than it used to be, J.D. Maybe it's kind of trending my way. People now...

(CHEERING AND APPLAUSE)

BEGALA: ... to be Democrat.

HAYWORTH: Sorry to disappoint, my friend. This is going to be a rock solid Republican state for George Bush, for Senator McCain, for yours truly.

BEGALA: You'll be reelected.

HAYWORTH: ... conservative team here.

PHILLIPS: Oh, my goodness. We've got to calm that crowd down.

I notice each of you has the properly colored ties. I like how you coordinated there.

All right. Let's get down and talk about this debate. What do you think? Ninety minutes of economic and domestic policy, is that what they're going to stick to? Is it going to be calm, cool, and collected, or could we see some fireworks tonight? It is the final debate. Paul?

BEGALA: Well, George bush is better on offense than on defense. Honestly, if I were coaching him, I would say go on offense.

The problem is in the last debate, he was a little too strident, even interrupted Charlie Gibson and jumped ugly with him. I think the president needs to kind of relax a little bit.

The challenge for him, though, is he has to defend his record. You know, it's not like in 2000 where he just came out and made a bunch of promises. In fact, now he's going to have to defend those promises.

He promised to create six million jobs; we're seven million short. He promised to balance the budget; he'd give us the biggest deficit in history. He promised that he'd do something about healthcare; well, he did something -- he added five million more people to the rolls of people who don't have health insurance.

So, the hard thing for Bush will be to defend his domestic record, which is, you know, in my eyes not a very good one.

PHILLIPS: Congressman?

HAYWORTH: Well, Kyra, George W. Bush has a strong record to run on. The fact that in the past few months we've added something like two million jobs, the fact that American families appreciate common sense tax relief. And the instant amnesia that Paul had -- I know this doesn't escape his memory -- 9/11 looms large in terms of a recession, in terms of putting our economy back together.

And my constituents and I think people around America have said these three words: whatever it takes. Whatever it takes for national security. Whatever it takes for economic security. And I dare say, Senator Kerry has a 20-year record in the Senate that he is doing his best to run away from. Voting for higher taxes 98 times. Being on 10 different sides of the Iraq debate. And that's going to make a tough situation for John Kerry.

So, yes, look for the president to be assertive, and look for John Kerry to have to try and run on his record -- something that he will try to run from as you see the real problems he and his running mate are having in recent days with...

PHILLIPS: All right. I got to ask you guys a question. I just want to kind of take it off course here just for a minute, because everybody today was about it on talk radio. I want to run a bit from John Edwards talking stem cell and Christopher Reeve. Let's listen, and then I want to talk about this.

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

SEN. JOHN EDWARDS (D-NC), VICE PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: Well, if we do the work that we can do in this country, the work that we will do when John Kerry is president, people like Christopher Reeve are going to get up out of that wheelchair and walk again. That's what we can do in America.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

PHILLIPS: All right. A lot of criticism. Was this take the death of someone that's been very prominent on this issue and, you know, pushing it a little bit and exploiting the death of Christopher Reeve? Paul?

HAYWORTH: You bet is was, Kyra.

BEGALA: No, come on.

HAYWORTH: That was a horrible thing to see happen. Just horribly bad taste on the part of the vice presidential nominee, and a cruel hoax at best. This was the wrong thing to say absolutely at wrong time, Paul.

BEGALA: Well, I wonder if my friends on the right like J.D. are going to attack Nancy Reagan and Ronald Reagan, Junior, who, in the passing of President Reagan, made the same case, that we need to have stem-cell research. We should let scientists decide this.

The president has a morally incoherent view. He said in the last debate, he said, "I think it's the taking of a human life, but I funded it." If he believes it's the taking of human life, he should shut down in-vitro fertilization clinics and he should shut down all research. If it's murder, he should stop murder.

But it's not murder. It's valid scientific research. And he won't fund it because the Jerry Falwell ring of J.D.'s party doesn't like it.

BEGALA: The bottom line is Paul again is staying. He does pretty good with the talking points of the script, but the fact is this, Kyra. We are committed to sound science, and we are finding the most promising work done with adult stem cells.

And it was a cruel hoax to perpetrate on those suffering from paralysis and other dreaded disease for Senator Edwards to say what he did. That's why he'll be back in the private sector as a trial lawyer the following January.

PHILLIPS: Republican Congressman J.D. Hayworth, "CROSSFIRE" co- host Paul Begala -- I knew we'd have some good discussion. I got to get to Judy Woodruff. I hope you guys will come back. We'll talk again tomorrow.

HAYWORTH: Sounds great.

BEGALA: Thanks, Kyra.

PHILLIPS: All right, guys. I hope Judy is not upset. We're sort of eating into her time there.

O'BRIEN: We have time.

PHILLIPS: We in trouble?

O'BRIEN: I think we're out of time. Judy? Is she out there?

PHILLIPS: All right. We'll take a quick break. "JUDY WOODRUFF's INSIDE POLITICS"...

O'BRIEN: She's mad at us. Back in a minute.

PHILLIPS: Yeah, she's boycotting us.

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Aired October 13, 2004 - 14:31   ET
THIS IS A RUSH TRANSCRIPT. THIS COPY MAY NOT BE IN ITS FINAL FORM AND MAY BE UPDATED.
MILES O'BRIEN, CNN ANCHOR: Welcome back to the CNN Center in Atlanta. This is LIVE FROM. I'm Miles O'Brien.
KYRA PHILLIPS, CNN ANCHOR: And I'm Kyra Phillips. Here's what's all new this half hour.

Our Paul Begala and Tucker Carlson diving into the -- actually diving into the tough issues that the candidates will face in tonight's debate. We're live from Tempe, Arizona. But actually, it's false advertising -- it's Paul Begala and Congressman J.D. Hayworth with us. But both of them went into the mosh pit.

O'BRIEN: The political mosh pit for you. And spewing forth, speaking of politics -- spewing forth, a hot time atop Mount St. Helens. We'll get to the bottom of the big lava dome ahead.

But first, here is what is happening now in the news.

Another violent 24 hours for American troops in Iraq. In the northern town of Mosul, a suicide bomber struck a U.S. convoy, killing two soldiers and wounding five others.

In Baghdad four American soldiers are dead in separate roadside bombings.

In northwestern Iraq, unearthing so-called killing fields. U.S. forces exhumed a mass grave site and and uncovered the remains of scores of people, possibly even hundreds -- many believed to be the bodies of Kurdish women and children. Investigators are hoping the scientific evidence will help convict the former Iraqi dictator on crimes against humanity.

President Bush and Senator John Kerry prepping for their third and final debate in Arizona tonight. The battle: all things domestic -- including jobs, healthcare, and taxes. The president was endorsed today by the National Rifle Association, promising to spend millions of dollars to help him get reelected.

And Senator Kerry is already taking a few swings at President Bush. The Kerry campaign has released a new ad that accuses the president of misleading voters about the Democratic healthcare plan. It criticizes Bush over the rising costs of healthcare.

Well, the heat will likely rise on stage in Tempe tonight when the two candidates take their final face-to-face swipes at one another in the fight for those critical undecided voters. It's always a bit nasty. That's how the First Lady describes the campaign process. She spoke last night to CNN's Larry King.

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

LAURA BUSH, FIRST LADY OF THE UNITED STATES: I think that's just a fact of life in politics. And you know it is when you throw your hat in the ring that that's what it's going to be like, especially for this big job, for the president of the United States -- but really, for any political race.

I mean, ask anybody who runs for school board or -- you know, there's a part of a political race, the competitive part, that is always a little bit nasty, and that's just the way it is. That's just competition.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

O'BRIEN: The third and final debate gets underway tonight, 9:00 p.m. Eastern time. Our live primetime coverage begins two hours prior.

PHILLIPS: Well, to the war on terror now, and the Middle East is typically thought of as an origin of Islamic terrorism. But since 9/11, officials in the U.S. have begun looking nervously to the north.

CNN's Deborah Feyerick recently spoke with Canadian experts about a potential jihad brewing up there.

(BEGIN VIDEOTAPE)

DEBORAH FEYERICK, CNN CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): They came to Canada to a new life, then gave it up, instead choosing holy war against the West.

MARTIN RUDNER, CANADIAN SECURITY EXPERT: Well, this is, of course, extremely disconcerting for Canada, for Canadians, not only that it happened, but that the recruitment took place in this country of young Canadians educated in Canadian schools.

FEYERICK: Canadian officials say many are disciples of Osama bin Laden. Of the 25 known Canadian terror suspects, four have direct links to major attacks, including: an alleged 9/11 recruiter; a suspected trainer for the 1998 U.S. embassy bombings in east Africa; a confessed scout for the Bali disco bombings; and a man leaving Canada, caught with a truckload of explosives meant for a millennium attack at Los Angeles Airport. At least three Canadians caught in Afghanistan are now in Guantanamo.

REID MORDEN, CANADIAN SECURITY EXPERT: The people who come more recently tend to have a more radical view of things, then perhaps bring with them some of the conflicts they left behind in their homelands.

FEYERICK (on camera): Muslims with ties to jihad began arriving in Canada more than a dozen years ago -- security officials first seeing Algerians, Moroccans, Tunisians, then came Egyptians, followed in the late '90s by a small group who had trained in Afghanistan.

(voice-over): A wave that caught Canadians by surprise.

RUDNER: We were naive. We did not read their text. We did not assess their intentions. After 9/11, it became quite clear what their intentions were, that this was a sanctuary for global jihad.

FEYERICK: The problem may be growing. A recent study by the New York Based Council on Foreign Relations finds in Canada and elsewhere, new Saudi-funded Islamic centers are preaching a kind of Islam that encourages violence against the West, helping to create the next generation of terrorists.

But a lawyer who defends several Muslims in Canadian custody says some of the immigrants who fought against Communists in Afghanistan are being targeted for the very lives they tried to leave behind.

BARBARA JACKMAN, IMMIGRATION AND REFUGEE LAWYER: They weren't terrorists at that time, but now that past history is being used against people.

FEYERICK: In a country known for giving immigrants fresh starts, clerics say Muslims are feeling the heat.

IMAM ALY HINDY, SALAHEDDIN ISLAMIC CENTER: This is what we are suffering from. People are afraid to donate money. People are afraid to even transfer money. People are afraid to travel.

FEYERICK: One fear created by another, as Canadians struggle to come to terms with homegrown Islamic militancy without undermining the country's strong liberal traditions.

Deborah Feyerick, CNN, Toronto.

(END VIDEOTAPE)

PHILLIPS: And we're keeping an eye and watching and waiting for Mount St. Helens to blow its top again. What's going on underneath that mountain? We're going to give you a peek deep inside the volcano.

Already one of the more controversial pop stars, Prince's new video is sure to really tick off a lot of people. Stay tuned and find out why.

ANNOUNCER: You're watching LIVE FROM on CNN, the most trusted name in news.

(COMMERCIAL BREAK)

PHILLIPS: Live pictures from Tempe, Arizona, where folks are getting ready for the third debate tonight between John Kerry and President Bush. We'll talk with the "CROSSFIRE" guys coming up in just a little bit as soon as they get seated, fight their way through the crowd. They're probably working the crowd -- that's what it is. Other news across America now -- sharing can be a good thing, especially when it comes to a huge lottery jackpot. Thirty-three workers at a printing company are splitting $117 million after one of their tickets won the Powerball lottery this weekend. That's the lump-sum payment option for the $214 million jackpot. Each winner gets about 2.2 million bucks. Not bad.

In Northern California, a suspicious wildfire -- the blaze that started in Rumsey on Sunday has now spread to nearly 30,000 acres thanks to dry brush and swirling winds. Now, a voluntary evacuation is in place for one lakeside community. Investigators are looking into that fire, saying it may have been arson.

Things are also heating up at Mount St. Helens. Temperatures in the volcano's crater have been above 1,000 degrees with fresh new flowing lava. The mountain has been shaking since September 23rd. As for an eruption, scientists say it's still possible, but not imminent.

O'BRIEN: Those are amazing pictures, aren't they, Kyra? Let's take a look at them one more time. It's the first time in the three weeks since Mount St. Helens sort of awakened from her slumber that we've seen magma rise to the surface, which by definition becomes lava. Magma, which is in the center and beneath the earth, when it erupts is called lava.

Been a series of earthquake rumblings, and you can see very clearly there in that part of the world, there is some very hot lava flowing. And what is happening is a new lava dome is forming. As a matter of fact, they detected a new rock there -- 200 feet long, 60 feet high. And get this -- that rock, as it cools, is 1,000 degrees, still, Fahrenheit. Hotter than a beach in August in Miami or something.

Let's take a look at some satellite imagery, give you a sense of the lay of the land of where those pictures are coming from. Obviously, here's the big wide picture of United States. Let's zoom in to Mount St. Helens.

And as you know, in 1980, Mount St. Helens erupted, killing 57 people. It was a mountain that lost well in excess of a thousand feet of the top of the mountain. There you can see to top there. That top section there is where the mountain used to come to a very gentle peak like that -- well, maybe not so gentle a peak.

In any case, as we go down here, let me tell you a little bit about this lava dome and what's going on right now as that magma rises to the surface becoming lava. That dome that is currently in the middle, it is about 900 feet above the crater that lies beneath it. And it took about six years post-eruption for that to occur.

Now, what is happening now is all in this crater area -- sort of the path of least resistance, because the lava dome actually is kind of strong -- that's where we're finding these indications of lava. And possibly what is happening is another lava dome is building, which might actually eclipse the current one. What you're seeing essentially is Mount St. Helens rebuilding itself, renewing its growth. If we had enough time, we could see it probably get right back that thousand feet or so it lost in 1980.

Take a look at this model we put together to give you a sense of what's going on beneath the surface. There you see what -- we call these things stratovolcanoes. That's what it looked like before 1980, more or less. Kind of an artistic license taken there.

As we zoom in, let's cut away and show you what's going on beneath the surface. And beneath he surface, you got a lot of magma. Of course, the center of the earth filled with magma, which is molten rock. Molten rock is lighter than regular rock. It rises to the surface, in some cases, going -- taking little avenues out this way, which is what happened in 1980, causing the eruption -- which in the case of the stratovolcanoes and Mount St. Helens doesn't cause so much of a lava flow as a so-called pyroclastic flow, which means big hunks of magma sort of harden up in midair causing what is called tephra, which is flying, newly-minted rocks.

And believe me, Kyra, when that happens, you don't want to be in the way. You there?

PHILLIPS: I always stay out of your way, Miles.

Let's go to Hollywood now. It's Prince's controversial new video that's shaking and rumbling the entertainment world. CNN entertainment correspondent Sibila Vargas has details on that and a lot more, of course, from Los Angeles. Hi, Sibila.

SIBILA VARGAS, CNN ENTERTAINMENT CORRESPONDENT: Hi, Kyra.

You know, yesterday I told you about some music video controversy between Eminem and Michael Jackson, but today it's Prince that's making the headlines.

A new video from the singer, which isn't playing on MTV yet, is already causing a stir. The video, called "Cinnamon Girl," stars actress Keisha Castle-Hughes from "Whale Rider" fame as an Arab- American girl living in America post 9/11.

Now, one of the scenes has her imagining herself detonating a bomb in a crowded airport terminal -- which you know, Kyra, in this highly sensitized climate is bound to raise a few eyebrows.

PHILLIPS: All right, so I want to know if Prince is saying anything about this video. This is the first chance I've had to actually look at it, so forgive me for sort of hesitating there. But has Prince said anything about the controversy, and what's his purpose behind it?

VARGAS: Yeah, you know, he has not said much. We talked to a spokesperson for Prince, and he told us that the artist has no comments, but that his goal is for people to see it and form their own opinions. MTV says that they'll begin airing the video next week on mtvU and expects to add it to MTV and MTV2 in the next few weeks. In the meantime, fans are able to see "Cinnamon Girl" online. And as you can see, you're seeing it right now. So, this is a first.

OK, enough about music videos. Jim Carrey wants to pledge his allegiance to the United States of America. Well, now he'll get his chance. The Canadian-born actor has become a United States citizen. The star of "Dumb and Dumber" and "Bruce Almighty" has expressed interest in voting in U.S. elections. And Carrey says he has no intention of giving up his Canadian heritage and will hold dual citizenship.

And here's some entertainment news from down under. You may seeing Aussies Nicole Kidman and Russell Crowe heating things up on the big screen. The Oscar-winning pair up for leading roles in the Australia romance fable "Eucalyptus." Crowe is set to star, and Kidman is still in negotiations.

And speaking about Aussies and Oscar winners, Mel Gibson is feeling very passionate these days. The actor has donated $10 million to two hospitals in Los Angeles. The money will be split between Mattel Children's Hospital at UCLA and Cedars-Sinai Medical Center to help care for children from foreign countries.

And Kyra, who says actors don't put their money where their mouth is?

PHILLIPS: All right, Sibila. That's true. A lot of them out there doing some great things. Sibila Vargas, thank you so much.

VARGAS: Thank you.

PHILLIPS: Two other people out there doing some great things -- so we hope -- our "CROSSFIRE" guys. I am told they're in the chairs, ready to go. Look at those two handsome men, Paul Begala and Congressman J.D. Hayworth.

PAUL BEGALA, CO-HOST, "CROSSFIRE": Where? Where are they?

PHILLIPS: I was talking about J.D., Paul? Anyway, we're going to take a quick break, and we're going to see if these guys can put up a good fight. We'll be right back.

REP. J.D. HAYWORTH (R), ARIZONA: Absolutely. Here we go.

BEGALA: All right.

HAYWORTH: Here we go.

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PHILLIPS: Well, the stage is set, literally -- Arizona State University for the third and final presidential debate of the election year. President Bush, Senator John Kerry, and 90 minutes of exchanging views over domestic policy and the economy. Let's get a preview. Let's head to Tempe. Joining me, CNN "CROSSFIRE" co-host Paul Begala and J.D. Hayworth, Republican Congressman from Arizona's fifth district -- already getting excited behind you both.

I'm just wondering, Congressman, has Paul been nice to you?

HAYWORTH: Oh, Paul has always been nice, but this is what America is about, Kyra. We agree to disagree, and we settle questions in this wonderful Constitutional republic through ballots and not bullets. And that's so great about life in these United States.

And Kyra, we welcome you, I guess we'd say through the miracle of satellite technology, to the fifth Congressional district of Arizona. We are so pleased to be hosting this third debate...

BEGALA: Paul, you got your boots on?

HAYWORTH: ... on the campus of Arizona State University.

PHILLIPS: You got the boots on, Paul?

BEGALA: How great is that? I'm sorry, Kyra, say again?

PHILLIPS: I said you got your boots on? It's getting thick over there.

BEGALA: Have I got -- I've got my boots on...

HAYWORTH: Ooh, Kyra, now, you're a little irreverent. Shame on you. We mean this.

BEGALA: He is right. This is his district, and I have to say the people have been wonderful to see, and they've been great to me. Makes me think that maybe this is more of a blue state than it used to be, J.D. Maybe it's kind of trending my way. People now...

(CHEERING AND APPLAUSE)

BEGALA: ... to be Democrat.

HAYWORTH: Sorry to disappoint, my friend. This is going to be a rock solid Republican state for George Bush, for Senator McCain, for yours truly.

BEGALA: You'll be reelected.

HAYWORTH: ... conservative team here.

PHILLIPS: Oh, my goodness. We've got to calm that crowd down.

I notice each of you has the properly colored ties. I like how you coordinated there.

All right. Let's get down and talk about this debate. What do you think? Ninety minutes of economic and domestic policy, is that what they're going to stick to? Is it going to be calm, cool, and collected, or could we see some fireworks tonight? It is the final debate. Paul?

BEGALA: Well, George bush is better on offense than on defense. Honestly, if I were coaching him, I would say go on offense.

The problem is in the last debate, he was a little too strident, even interrupted Charlie Gibson and jumped ugly with him. I think the president needs to kind of relax a little bit.

The challenge for him, though, is he has to defend his record. You know, it's not like in 2000 where he just came out and made a bunch of promises. In fact, now he's going to have to defend those promises.

He promised to create six million jobs; we're seven million short. He promised to balance the budget; he'd give us the biggest deficit in history. He promised that he'd do something about healthcare; well, he did something -- he added five million more people to the rolls of people who don't have health insurance.

So, the hard thing for Bush will be to defend his domestic record, which is, you know, in my eyes not a very good one.

PHILLIPS: Congressman?

HAYWORTH: Well, Kyra, George W. Bush has a strong record to run on. The fact that in the past few months we've added something like two million jobs, the fact that American families appreciate common sense tax relief. And the instant amnesia that Paul had -- I know this doesn't escape his memory -- 9/11 looms large in terms of a recession, in terms of putting our economy back together.

And my constituents and I think people around America have said these three words: whatever it takes. Whatever it takes for national security. Whatever it takes for economic security. And I dare say, Senator Kerry has a 20-year record in the Senate that he is doing his best to run away from. Voting for higher taxes 98 times. Being on 10 different sides of the Iraq debate. And that's going to make a tough situation for John Kerry.

So, yes, look for the president to be assertive, and look for John Kerry to have to try and run on his record -- something that he will try to run from as you see the real problems he and his running mate are having in recent days with...

PHILLIPS: All right. I got to ask you guys a question. I just want to kind of take it off course here just for a minute, because everybody today was about it on talk radio. I want to run a bit from John Edwards talking stem cell and Christopher Reeve. Let's listen, and then I want to talk about this.

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SEN. JOHN EDWARDS (D-NC), VICE PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: Well, if we do the work that we can do in this country, the work that we will do when John Kerry is president, people like Christopher Reeve are going to get up out of that wheelchair and walk again. That's what we can do in America.

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PHILLIPS: All right. A lot of criticism. Was this take the death of someone that's been very prominent on this issue and, you know, pushing it a little bit and exploiting the death of Christopher Reeve? Paul?

HAYWORTH: You bet is was, Kyra.

BEGALA: No, come on.

HAYWORTH: That was a horrible thing to see happen. Just horribly bad taste on the part of the vice presidential nominee, and a cruel hoax at best. This was the wrong thing to say absolutely at wrong time, Paul.

BEGALA: Well, I wonder if my friends on the right like J.D. are going to attack Nancy Reagan and Ronald Reagan, Junior, who, in the passing of President Reagan, made the same case, that we need to have stem-cell research. We should let scientists decide this.

The president has a morally incoherent view. He said in the last debate, he said, "I think it's the taking of a human life, but I funded it." If he believes it's the taking of human life, he should shut down in-vitro fertilization clinics and he should shut down all research. If it's murder, he should stop murder.

But it's not murder. It's valid scientific research. And he won't fund it because the Jerry Falwell ring of J.D.'s party doesn't like it.

BEGALA: The bottom line is Paul again is staying. He does pretty good with the talking points of the script, but the fact is this, Kyra. We are committed to sound science, and we are finding the most promising work done with adult stem cells.

And it was a cruel hoax to perpetrate on those suffering from paralysis and other dreaded disease for Senator Edwards to say what he did. That's why he'll be back in the private sector as a trial lawyer the following January.

PHILLIPS: Republican Congressman J.D. Hayworth, "CROSSFIRE" co- host Paul Begala -- I knew we'd have some good discussion. I got to get to Judy Woodruff. I hope you guys will come back. We'll talk again tomorrow.

HAYWORTH: Sounds great.

BEGALA: Thanks, Kyra.

PHILLIPS: All right, guys. I hope Judy is not upset. We're sort of eating into her time there.

O'BRIEN: We have time.

PHILLIPS: We in trouble?

O'BRIEN: I think we're out of time. Judy? Is she out there?

PHILLIPS: All right. We'll take a quick break. "JUDY WOODRUFF's INSIDE POLITICS"...

O'BRIEN: She's mad at us. Back in a minute.

PHILLIPS: Yeah, she's boycotting us.

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