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Day Four of Scott Peterson Penalty Phase; Discussion with Bernard Parks

Aired December 03, 2004 - 13:30   ET

THIS IS A RUSH TRANSCRIPT. THIS COPY MAY NOT BE IN ITS FINAL FORM AND MAY BE UPDATED.

THIS IS A RUSH TRANSCRIPT. THIS COPY MAY NOT BE IN ITS FINAL FORM AND MAY BE UPDATED.


KYRA PHILLIPS, CNN ANCHOR: On the past hour, five explosions reported in Madrid, all at gas stations. The blasts when the off in different parts of the city, and not in Madrid's city center. Police describe the bombs as low potency, and there are no immediate reports of injuries. According to state radio, the explosions came after a warning from the Basque separatist group ETTA. No reports of injuries at this time.
From New York's mean streets to one of Washington's hot seats former New York Police Commissioner Bernard Kerik was officially nominated today to join the Bush cabinet. If approved, Kerik will replace outgoing Tom Ridge as the head of homeland security.

Is Iraq's interim prime minister, Ayad Allawi, on dangerous ground in Germany? Well, German authorities detained three people in overnight raids, and will president them in court today. That incident comes amid a nationwide anti-terrorism investigation, and during Allawi's visit to meet with German chancellor Gerhard Schroeder. Authorities are investigating Iraqi citizens in Germany suspected of being members of Ansar Al Islam, a militant group based in Iraq's northern Kurdish region.

Meanwhile, another interim Iraqi leader, President Gazzi Al Yawer, is planning to visit Washington next week. A White House spokesperson announced that Yawer will meet with President Bush to discuss the vision for U.S./Iraqi relations, the upcoming Iraqi elections in January and U.S. support for the Iraqi security forces.

TONY HARRIS, CNN ANCHOR: Day four of the Scott Peterson penalty phase, it follows a particular emotional day of testimony. Friends and family of the defendant's, and those of his late wife's describing their relationships, their shock, horror and disbelief. The same jury that found Scott Peterson guilty of Laci Peterson's murder, now deciding whether to hand down the harshest sentence. Rusty Dornin in Redwood City, California today -- Rusty.

RUSTY DORNIN, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Well, Tony, Joe Peterson, who shares the same father with Scott Peterson, is on the stand. They're actually on a break right now, and he'll be on the stand and back in a few minutes. He's been describing really just Scott's childhood again.

And we've seen some recurring themes all through these witnesses. There have been 14 so far for the defense. They've been talking about what a great guy Scott Peterson is, he was responsible. He's altruistic, caring, mature, that sort of thing. Also he would have a positive effect, if he were in prison for the rest of his life, he could have a positive effect on other inmates. And the third thing is, if he was put to death, it would have a devastating impact on his family. Those things keep coming out. They keep emphasizing those things throughout this penalty phase.

Now this is the third witness that will testify today, and from what we understand, the last witness. Court will be recessing early today. They will resume on Monday. The judge telling the jury yesterday that witnesses will probably go Monday, and maybe into Tuesday, before the jury will begin their deliberations -- Tony.

HARRIS: Rusty, who's been the most compelling witness, or witnesses?

DORNIN: Well, for the defense it's been the relatives. Janey Peterson breaking down several times in court yesterday, also the mother of Scott Peterson breaking down as well. The jurors did not appear to respond emotionally to that. But his two half brothers, John and Joe, they've both been very compelling, very down to earth, telling stories of their childhood. The jury seems to be very intently listening, even smiling at times. They seem to be sort of connecting with the jury on that level. But, of course, the most compelling witness so far was for the prosecution, and that was Sharon Rocha, Laci Peterson's mother.

HARRIS: Absolutely. Rusty Dornin in Redwood City, California. Rusty, thank you.

If he did it, he didn't know it -- at least that's Barry Bonds' side of the story. The San Francisco Giant, and giant among home run hitters, reportedly told a grand jury last year that he did use a couple of substances, some topical creams, that turned out to be taboo. Bonds says he was told by his trainer they were natural arthritis medicines. The testimony is officially sealed, but was leaked to a San Francisco newspaper, which ran the story today. Bonds' lawyer calls it a ploy to smear the name of the 700-plus home run slugger.

Moving now to a couple of sluggers potentially in trouble to several sluggers definitely in trouble. Hard to forget these images. November 19th, NBA game, Piston, Pacers and pugilism. It looks like the initial investigation into this fight is over. And the case of who hit who first and who hit back goes to prosecutors on Monday. They will decide on charges and issue some warrants. The NBA has already slapped hard several players involved. A number of fans who threw stuff during the chaos will probably be among those charged.

PHILLIPS: Coast to coast now, news across America, Tucson, Arizona, a suspected snatcher nabbed. This parking lot purse thief may be in custody thanks to some sharp-eyed citizens. Police picked up a 24-year-old man after showing this video on the local news and getting a tip. Well, the victim, a tough 76-year-old woman, who put up a pretty good fight, she's OK. Some bruises. You don't see it on tape. But another Kmart shopper ran down the thief and got the purse back. Humbug. The Target department store chain is catching Christmas flack over its decision to ban Salvation Army bell ringers from its storefronts this season. Shame of them. Target says its policy is no soliciting. Christian groups are urging shoppers to take their business elsewhere. Target's not alone, a growing list of store chains don't allow the bell-ringers.

Opponents of stem cell research got a real boost today. In Wisconsin, Governor Jim Doyle has earmarked $750 million to build a center dedicated to the study of embryonic stem cells, and funded it for the next 10 years. The research is controversial, as you know, and its passage through the legislature is not guaranteed.

Well, tapping a top cop for a cabinet post. Today President Bush officially named Bernard Kerik as his choice to replace Tom Ridge as the head of homeland security. Kerik, who was New York City's police commissioner on 9/11, is superbly qualified for the job, says Mr. Bush. We're going to talk more about those qualifications with someone who spent nearly 40 years with the LAPD, including a stint as police chief. L.A. City Council member Bernard Parks joins us now live from L.A.

Good to see you, sir.

BERNARD PARKS, L.A. CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: How you doing, Kyra? How's everything going?

PHILLIPS: Very well. Let's talk about your back grounded with Bernard Kerik. I know when you were police chief and he was commissioner, you worked a lot with fast track, monitoring crime, and also talking about demonstrations in the two biggest cities in the United States. Tell me about it. Tell me about working with him.

PARKS: He was a warm person to work with. Bernard Kerik has a tremendous background, having worked corrections, law enforcement, from the top to bottom.

But what was most important to me was that he was just a good human being and a public servant. He was very down to earth. He was a very humanistic person, always looking at service to the public. He, along with Ray Kelly and Howard Safir, I think would be considered at some point giants as it relates to law enforcement across the nation.

PHILLIPS: And of course this is somebody who talked about homeland security constantly after 9/11, and the two of you talked about it quite a bit. Tell me how you shared information, why he wanted to talk to you, why you wanted to talk to him about protecting the homeland post-9/11.

PARKS: I talked to him initially was just to kind of console him, because I couldn't imagine his day-to-day activities where had he to run a 40,000 person department, deal with day-to-day crime and then manage probably the largest crime scene in the history of policing, and then also tend to the needs of families, and officers and firefighters and public servants just in the matter of being in that situation. And so as we discussed this issue, he was very helpful as it related to sharing some of the concerns which helped the LAPD be even more cognizant of the type of things we should be doing, even though we're 3,000 miles away, and looking at locations for targets that potentially could be terrorist targets, organizing our efforts.

And we also Had the ability to discuss the fact that we, being two large cities, we had terrorist task forces in place. So you had the ability to have a little better handle on what potential terrorism might have been occurring in the United States.

PHILLIPS: The two biggest challenges that Bernard Kerik faces, one being intelligence. As a former police commissioner, what does he know, what does he understand about intelligence that could be good, could be a challenge?

PARKS: I think what he will bring is for years, there was always a concern about whether federal agencies shared intelligence appropriately with local agencies and whether there was a communication. He would understand that clearly and fill those gaps as it relates to how information should be shared with local agencies, how to bring them into the loop, understanding that their first responders, but also having some level of protection on intelligence information because it can't be shared with everyone, because then it becomes gossip. And it is information that can be very dangerous to someone's life.

And so he understands that balance. I think he would be able to fill that void. I think he also would have an understanding of the fact that you can't rely on just the police and federal agencies to fill this void. There has to be an understanding that the general population has to have a role because they see and know terrorists before the police do. They see incidents. They see circumstances. They work with people that might create an alarm bell going off. They may have a piece of the puzzle that the police would never get to if they didn't bring that to their attention.

So I think he comes with that in understanding that it's a much larger picture than whether the federal agencies are just a revenue source for local agencies, but they should be looking at a way in which they can pull information together, but also clearly send a message that local agencies have a lot to do on their own.

PHILLIPS: L.A. city council man, Bernard Parks, former police chief. I know you'll be calling Bernard Kerik as head of Homeland Security asking for things for your city, no doubt.

PARKS: That's right. He's been a friend a long time. And I think they could not have picked a better person.

PHILLIPS: Thank you, Bernard Parks.

PARKS: Thank you.

HARRIS: Still to come on LIVE FROM, a morbid milestone. Twenty years since the deadliest industrial citizen in the world history. Up next, how India is remembering a disaster. (COMMERCIAL BREAK)

HARRIS: In India today protesters rallied to mark the 20th anniversary of the world's worst industrial disaster, where a gas leak a union carbide plan the in Bhopal, India, resulted in thousands of deaths of thousands of people.

CNN's Satinder Bindra reports.

(BEGIN VIDEOTAPE)

SATINDER BINDRA, NEW DELHI BUREAU CHIEF (voice-over): Twenty years of suffering and anger boil over. Survivors burn an effigy representing Union Carbide and the Indian government. Death to American chemical companies they scream. These protesters blame Carbide for ruining their lives and the Indian government for failing to understand their suffering.

"We face so much injustice" he says. "And no one is prepared to listen to us. Our air and water is polluted." Environmentalists say toxic chemicals that remain at this plant have slowly contaminated the water supply. Union Carbide disputes that. The local government promises a complete cleanup. Victims at a candle light vigil say they'll believe that when it happens. For now, all they can think of is the most frightening day of their lives.

"I rushed out my house," says Musharraf Ali (ph). "There was gas everywhere. I just passed out." Three hours later, I regained consciousness. But Musharraf Ali never recovered. In 1991 his wife was diagnosed with cancer, she died five years later, just 36-years- old.

(on camera): None of these survivors talk about what happened here in 1984 in the past tense. They say they're suffering continuous. Their family members are still dying and their children are being born with birth defects.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: These children known as Bhopal's living dead inspired an American to make a film highlighting their plight.

ZACK COFFIN, FILMMAKER: But I do want to tell a movie that's true to the story of what happened the victims feel comfortable with. If it's not that, I don't know what I'm doing.

BINDRA (voice-over): Survivor Vaah Metadavi (ph) says she still doesn't know what she's doing with her life. Several members of her family, including her husband, are dead. Like thousands here, she says she has nothing to live for or look forward to.

Satinder Bindra, CNN, Bhopal, Central India.

(END VIDEOTAPE)

HARRIS: Union Carbide is owned by Dow Chemical, it's stock fell briefly today after the BBC broadcast what turned out to be a false report, the company had taken full responsibility for the Bhopal disaster. The BBC interviewed a man who said Dow was setting up a $12 billion fund to fully compensate victims. A BBC spokeswoman said the interview was inaccurate in part of an elaborate deception

PHILLIPS: Other news around the world now, rescue workers in the Philippines are scrambling to find nearly 400 people missing after back-to-back typhoons. Those storms killed more than 650 people. Flash flooding caused bridges to collapse and landslides are blocking roads to devastated coastal villages.

Lawyers for Italy's Prime Minister Sylvia Berlusconi, demanded today that the Italian leader be found not guilty of corruption charges. The four year old trial is drawing to a close now and defense lawyers say business mogul turned politician never bribed judges and that the trail is politically motivated.

In Belgium, the life (UNINTELLIGIBLE) painter, Peter Paul Reubens is being celebrated in ice. Forty sculptors have gathered in Antwerp from all over the world to craft 350 tons of ice and snow into likenesses of Reubens' paintings. Well, the festival wrapped up a year-long celebrations of Antwerp's illustrious situation.

It's OK to cry. Really, it is.

Up next on LIVE FROM, our Jeanne Moos looks back with a tearful eye on some well-known men and mushier moments.

RHONDA SCHAFFLER, CNN CORRESPONDENT: I'm Rhonda Schaffler in New York. One airline has struck a major deal with workers and it's also telling some former executives, no more free rides. I'll have that story and a look at the markets coming right up on LIVE FROM.

(COMMERCIAL BREAK)

PHILLIPS: When Tom Brokaw relinquished the anchor chair this week, gulping back tears, it got CNN's Jeanne Moos busy about who belongs in the who's who of weepy men. So come along now, on a trip through -- oh, you cry, come on -- hanky history.

(BEGIN VIDEOTAPE)

JEANNE MOOS, CNN ANCHOR (voice-over): When colleagues gave Tom Brokaw an anchor's away toast...

TOM BROKAW: It's been a great, great privilege.

MOOS: It wasn't the champagne that made him choke, big boys don't cry? Don't count on it.

REP. DICK GEPHARDT (D), MISSOURI: Krissy (ph) and Kate (ph).

MOOS: Be it a presidential contender or a showbiz legend calling it quilts.

JOHNNY CARSON: I bid you a very heartfelt good night.

MOOS: That break in the voice can sometimes break your heart. Talk about a tear-jerker, imagine 300 pages on the subject of crying. You'll learn that not all tears are created equal, that emotional tears have a different chemical composition than lubricating ones, not that a retiring coach much cares.

DICK VERMEIL, NFL COACH: And these players -- jeez. Excuse me.

MOOS: In the old days, anchors got emotional. For instance, in announcing JFK's death --

WALTER CRONKITE: Thirty-eight minutes ago.

MOOS: But Cronkite's struggle for composure came across as understated compared to Dan Rather's post-9/11's reaction.

DAN RATHER: We can never sing that song again that way.

MOOS: No wonder David Letterman offered a comforting hand. Dave's been there himself after his heart surgery.

DAVID LETTERMAN: These men and women right here saved my life.

MOOS: There's even a Web site called old men crying that post photo after photo of tearful men, and though some are offended -- "what sort of sick freak are you? -- the site's creator says he was inspired by his own father's tears. So what if the cowardly lion did it.

JUDY GARLAND: My goodness, what a fuss you're making.

MOOS: So did Rambo. Even real life General Stormin' Norman Schwarzkopf.

Honoring crying men, artist-photographer Sam Taylor Wood (ph) asked famous actors to cry for her. Most did, except Paul Newman, who said he was too old to cry.

(on camera): Do you ever cry?

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Every Friday when my wife takes my check off me.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: When the Bears won the super bowl in '85, all of us were crying.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: It's a big stress relief.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: If men weren't supposed to cry, they wouldn't have tears.

MOOS: When you were a young guy, did guys cry?

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: No, choke a little bit, but they don't cry.

MOOS (voice-over): Women seem of two minds about male tears.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: I would feel a little, I guess the word would be, creeped out about that.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: My old man, he used to shed tears all the time. The little tears would trickle down. You know, I thought that was hip.

MOOS: Back in the '50s, Johnnie Ray (ph) was known as the crying crooner, the golden tear jerker. For him, it's a crying shame not to weep.

Jeanne Moos, CNN, New York.

(END VIDEOTAPE)

PHILLIPS: All right. When's the last time you cried?

HARRIS: Um, my babies, when they were born. The blubbering is the thing that...

PHILLIPS: A little cry is OK, but not the sob.

HARRIS: A little tear and it increases the manly steel. And but the blubbering it's just...

(STOCK MARKET REPORT)

PHILLIPS: Coming up in the second hour of LIVE FROM, Health and Human Services Secretary Tommy Thompson, he's going to hold a live news conference.

HARRIS: He's expected to announce his resignation. We'll bring it to you when it happens, LIVE FROM'S hour of power, hour of power, begins right after this.

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Aired December 3, 2004 - 13:30   ET
THIS IS A RUSH TRANSCRIPT. THIS COPY MAY NOT BE IN ITS FINAL FORM AND MAY BE UPDATED.
KYRA PHILLIPS, CNN ANCHOR: On the past hour, five explosions reported in Madrid, all at gas stations. The blasts when the off in different parts of the city, and not in Madrid's city center. Police describe the bombs as low potency, and there are no immediate reports of injuries. According to state radio, the explosions came after a warning from the Basque separatist group ETTA. No reports of injuries at this time.
From New York's mean streets to one of Washington's hot seats former New York Police Commissioner Bernard Kerik was officially nominated today to join the Bush cabinet. If approved, Kerik will replace outgoing Tom Ridge as the head of homeland security.

Is Iraq's interim prime minister, Ayad Allawi, on dangerous ground in Germany? Well, German authorities detained three people in overnight raids, and will president them in court today. That incident comes amid a nationwide anti-terrorism investigation, and during Allawi's visit to meet with German chancellor Gerhard Schroeder. Authorities are investigating Iraqi citizens in Germany suspected of being members of Ansar Al Islam, a militant group based in Iraq's northern Kurdish region.

Meanwhile, another interim Iraqi leader, President Gazzi Al Yawer, is planning to visit Washington next week. A White House spokesperson announced that Yawer will meet with President Bush to discuss the vision for U.S./Iraqi relations, the upcoming Iraqi elections in January and U.S. support for the Iraqi security forces.

TONY HARRIS, CNN ANCHOR: Day four of the Scott Peterson penalty phase, it follows a particular emotional day of testimony. Friends and family of the defendant's, and those of his late wife's describing their relationships, their shock, horror and disbelief. The same jury that found Scott Peterson guilty of Laci Peterson's murder, now deciding whether to hand down the harshest sentence. Rusty Dornin in Redwood City, California today -- Rusty.

RUSTY DORNIN, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Well, Tony, Joe Peterson, who shares the same father with Scott Peterson, is on the stand. They're actually on a break right now, and he'll be on the stand and back in a few minutes. He's been describing really just Scott's childhood again.

And we've seen some recurring themes all through these witnesses. There have been 14 so far for the defense. They've been talking about what a great guy Scott Peterson is, he was responsible. He's altruistic, caring, mature, that sort of thing. Also he would have a positive effect, if he were in prison for the rest of his life, he could have a positive effect on other inmates. And the third thing is, if he was put to death, it would have a devastating impact on his family. Those things keep coming out. They keep emphasizing those things throughout this penalty phase.

Now this is the third witness that will testify today, and from what we understand, the last witness. Court will be recessing early today. They will resume on Monday. The judge telling the jury yesterday that witnesses will probably go Monday, and maybe into Tuesday, before the jury will begin their deliberations -- Tony.

HARRIS: Rusty, who's been the most compelling witness, or witnesses?

DORNIN: Well, for the defense it's been the relatives. Janey Peterson breaking down several times in court yesterday, also the mother of Scott Peterson breaking down as well. The jurors did not appear to respond emotionally to that. But his two half brothers, John and Joe, they've both been very compelling, very down to earth, telling stories of their childhood. The jury seems to be very intently listening, even smiling at times. They seem to be sort of connecting with the jury on that level. But, of course, the most compelling witness so far was for the prosecution, and that was Sharon Rocha, Laci Peterson's mother.

HARRIS: Absolutely. Rusty Dornin in Redwood City, California. Rusty, thank you.

If he did it, he didn't know it -- at least that's Barry Bonds' side of the story. The San Francisco Giant, and giant among home run hitters, reportedly told a grand jury last year that he did use a couple of substances, some topical creams, that turned out to be taboo. Bonds says he was told by his trainer they were natural arthritis medicines. The testimony is officially sealed, but was leaked to a San Francisco newspaper, which ran the story today. Bonds' lawyer calls it a ploy to smear the name of the 700-plus home run slugger.

Moving now to a couple of sluggers potentially in trouble to several sluggers definitely in trouble. Hard to forget these images. November 19th, NBA game, Piston, Pacers and pugilism. It looks like the initial investigation into this fight is over. And the case of who hit who first and who hit back goes to prosecutors on Monday. They will decide on charges and issue some warrants. The NBA has already slapped hard several players involved. A number of fans who threw stuff during the chaos will probably be among those charged.

PHILLIPS: Coast to coast now, news across America, Tucson, Arizona, a suspected snatcher nabbed. This parking lot purse thief may be in custody thanks to some sharp-eyed citizens. Police picked up a 24-year-old man after showing this video on the local news and getting a tip. Well, the victim, a tough 76-year-old woman, who put up a pretty good fight, she's OK. Some bruises. You don't see it on tape. But another Kmart shopper ran down the thief and got the purse back. Humbug. The Target department store chain is catching Christmas flack over its decision to ban Salvation Army bell ringers from its storefronts this season. Shame of them. Target says its policy is no soliciting. Christian groups are urging shoppers to take their business elsewhere. Target's not alone, a growing list of store chains don't allow the bell-ringers.

Opponents of stem cell research got a real boost today. In Wisconsin, Governor Jim Doyle has earmarked $750 million to build a center dedicated to the study of embryonic stem cells, and funded it for the next 10 years. The research is controversial, as you know, and its passage through the legislature is not guaranteed.

Well, tapping a top cop for a cabinet post. Today President Bush officially named Bernard Kerik as his choice to replace Tom Ridge as the head of homeland security. Kerik, who was New York City's police commissioner on 9/11, is superbly qualified for the job, says Mr. Bush. We're going to talk more about those qualifications with someone who spent nearly 40 years with the LAPD, including a stint as police chief. L.A. City Council member Bernard Parks joins us now live from L.A.

Good to see you, sir.

BERNARD PARKS, L.A. CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: How you doing, Kyra? How's everything going?

PHILLIPS: Very well. Let's talk about your back grounded with Bernard Kerik. I know when you were police chief and he was commissioner, you worked a lot with fast track, monitoring crime, and also talking about demonstrations in the two biggest cities in the United States. Tell me about it. Tell me about working with him.

PARKS: He was a warm person to work with. Bernard Kerik has a tremendous background, having worked corrections, law enforcement, from the top to bottom.

But what was most important to me was that he was just a good human being and a public servant. He was very down to earth. He was a very humanistic person, always looking at service to the public. He, along with Ray Kelly and Howard Safir, I think would be considered at some point giants as it relates to law enforcement across the nation.

PHILLIPS: And of course this is somebody who talked about homeland security constantly after 9/11, and the two of you talked about it quite a bit. Tell me how you shared information, why he wanted to talk to you, why you wanted to talk to him about protecting the homeland post-9/11.

PARKS: I talked to him initially was just to kind of console him, because I couldn't imagine his day-to-day activities where had he to run a 40,000 person department, deal with day-to-day crime and then manage probably the largest crime scene in the history of policing, and then also tend to the needs of families, and officers and firefighters and public servants just in the matter of being in that situation. And so as we discussed this issue, he was very helpful as it related to sharing some of the concerns which helped the LAPD be even more cognizant of the type of things we should be doing, even though we're 3,000 miles away, and looking at locations for targets that potentially could be terrorist targets, organizing our efforts.

And we also Had the ability to discuss the fact that we, being two large cities, we had terrorist task forces in place. So you had the ability to have a little better handle on what potential terrorism might have been occurring in the United States.

PHILLIPS: The two biggest challenges that Bernard Kerik faces, one being intelligence. As a former police commissioner, what does he know, what does he understand about intelligence that could be good, could be a challenge?

PARKS: I think what he will bring is for years, there was always a concern about whether federal agencies shared intelligence appropriately with local agencies and whether there was a communication. He would understand that clearly and fill those gaps as it relates to how information should be shared with local agencies, how to bring them into the loop, understanding that their first responders, but also having some level of protection on intelligence information because it can't be shared with everyone, because then it becomes gossip. And it is information that can be very dangerous to someone's life.

And so he understands that balance. I think he would be able to fill that void. I think he also would have an understanding of the fact that you can't rely on just the police and federal agencies to fill this void. There has to be an understanding that the general population has to have a role because they see and know terrorists before the police do. They see incidents. They see circumstances. They work with people that might create an alarm bell going off. They may have a piece of the puzzle that the police would never get to if they didn't bring that to their attention.

So I think he comes with that in understanding that it's a much larger picture than whether the federal agencies are just a revenue source for local agencies, but they should be looking at a way in which they can pull information together, but also clearly send a message that local agencies have a lot to do on their own.

PHILLIPS: L.A. city council man, Bernard Parks, former police chief. I know you'll be calling Bernard Kerik as head of Homeland Security asking for things for your city, no doubt.

PARKS: That's right. He's been a friend a long time. And I think they could not have picked a better person.

PHILLIPS: Thank you, Bernard Parks.

PARKS: Thank you.

HARRIS: Still to come on LIVE FROM, a morbid milestone. Twenty years since the deadliest industrial citizen in the world history. Up next, how India is remembering a disaster. (COMMERCIAL BREAK)

HARRIS: In India today protesters rallied to mark the 20th anniversary of the world's worst industrial disaster, where a gas leak a union carbide plan the in Bhopal, India, resulted in thousands of deaths of thousands of people.

CNN's Satinder Bindra reports.

(BEGIN VIDEOTAPE)

SATINDER BINDRA, NEW DELHI BUREAU CHIEF (voice-over): Twenty years of suffering and anger boil over. Survivors burn an effigy representing Union Carbide and the Indian government. Death to American chemical companies they scream. These protesters blame Carbide for ruining their lives and the Indian government for failing to understand their suffering.

"We face so much injustice" he says. "And no one is prepared to listen to us. Our air and water is polluted." Environmentalists say toxic chemicals that remain at this plant have slowly contaminated the water supply. Union Carbide disputes that. The local government promises a complete cleanup. Victims at a candle light vigil say they'll believe that when it happens. For now, all they can think of is the most frightening day of their lives.

"I rushed out my house," says Musharraf Ali (ph). "There was gas everywhere. I just passed out." Three hours later, I regained consciousness. But Musharraf Ali never recovered. In 1991 his wife was diagnosed with cancer, she died five years later, just 36-years- old.

(on camera): None of these survivors talk about what happened here in 1984 in the past tense. They say they're suffering continuous. Their family members are still dying and their children are being born with birth defects.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: These children known as Bhopal's living dead inspired an American to make a film highlighting their plight.

ZACK COFFIN, FILMMAKER: But I do want to tell a movie that's true to the story of what happened the victims feel comfortable with. If it's not that, I don't know what I'm doing.

BINDRA (voice-over): Survivor Vaah Metadavi (ph) says she still doesn't know what she's doing with her life. Several members of her family, including her husband, are dead. Like thousands here, she says she has nothing to live for or look forward to.

Satinder Bindra, CNN, Bhopal, Central India.

(END VIDEOTAPE)

HARRIS: Union Carbide is owned by Dow Chemical, it's stock fell briefly today after the BBC broadcast what turned out to be a false report, the company had taken full responsibility for the Bhopal disaster. The BBC interviewed a man who said Dow was setting up a $12 billion fund to fully compensate victims. A BBC spokeswoman said the interview was inaccurate in part of an elaborate deception

PHILLIPS: Other news around the world now, rescue workers in the Philippines are scrambling to find nearly 400 people missing after back-to-back typhoons. Those storms killed more than 650 people. Flash flooding caused bridges to collapse and landslides are blocking roads to devastated coastal villages.

Lawyers for Italy's Prime Minister Sylvia Berlusconi, demanded today that the Italian leader be found not guilty of corruption charges. The four year old trial is drawing to a close now and defense lawyers say business mogul turned politician never bribed judges and that the trail is politically motivated.

In Belgium, the life (UNINTELLIGIBLE) painter, Peter Paul Reubens is being celebrated in ice. Forty sculptors have gathered in Antwerp from all over the world to craft 350 tons of ice and snow into likenesses of Reubens' paintings. Well, the festival wrapped up a year-long celebrations of Antwerp's illustrious situation.

It's OK to cry. Really, it is.

Up next on LIVE FROM, our Jeanne Moos looks back with a tearful eye on some well-known men and mushier moments.

RHONDA SCHAFFLER, CNN CORRESPONDENT: I'm Rhonda Schaffler in New York. One airline has struck a major deal with workers and it's also telling some former executives, no more free rides. I'll have that story and a look at the markets coming right up on LIVE FROM.

(COMMERCIAL BREAK)

PHILLIPS: When Tom Brokaw relinquished the anchor chair this week, gulping back tears, it got CNN's Jeanne Moos busy about who belongs in the who's who of weepy men. So come along now, on a trip through -- oh, you cry, come on -- hanky history.

(BEGIN VIDEOTAPE)

JEANNE MOOS, CNN ANCHOR (voice-over): When colleagues gave Tom Brokaw an anchor's away toast...

TOM BROKAW: It's been a great, great privilege.

MOOS: It wasn't the champagne that made him choke, big boys don't cry? Don't count on it.

REP. DICK GEPHARDT (D), MISSOURI: Krissy (ph) and Kate (ph).

MOOS: Be it a presidential contender or a showbiz legend calling it quilts.

JOHNNY CARSON: I bid you a very heartfelt good night.

MOOS: That break in the voice can sometimes break your heart. Talk about a tear-jerker, imagine 300 pages on the subject of crying. You'll learn that not all tears are created equal, that emotional tears have a different chemical composition than lubricating ones, not that a retiring coach much cares.

DICK VERMEIL, NFL COACH: And these players -- jeez. Excuse me.

MOOS: In the old days, anchors got emotional. For instance, in announcing JFK's death --

WALTER CRONKITE: Thirty-eight minutes ago.

MOOS: But Cronkite's struggle for composure came across as understated compared to Dan Rather's post-9/11's reaction.

DAN RATHER: We can never sing that song again that way.

MOOS: No wonder David Letterman offered a comforting hand. Dave's been there himself after his heart surgery.

DAVID LETTERMAN: These men and women right here saved my life.

MOOS: There's even a Web site called old men crying that post photo after photo of tearful men, and though some are offended -- "what sort of sick freak are you? -- the site's creator says he was inspired by his own father's tears. So what if the cowardly lion did it.

JUDY GARLAND: My goodness, what a fuss you're making.

MOOS: So did Rambo. Even real life General Stormin' Norman Schwarzkopf.

Honoring crying men, artist-photographer Sam Taylor Wood (ph) asked famous actors to cry for her. Most did, except Paul Newman, who said he was too old to cry.

(on camera): Do you ever cry?

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Every Friday when my wife takes my check off me.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: When the Bears won the super bowl in '85, all of us were crying.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: It's a big stress relief.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: If men weren't supposed to cry, they wouldn't have tears.

MOOS: When you were a young guy, did guys cry?

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: No, choke a little bit, but they don't cry.

MOOS (voice-over): Women seem of two minds about male tears.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: I would feel a little, I guess the word would be, creeped out about that.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: My old man, he used to shed tears all the time. The little tears would trickle down. You know, I thought that was hip.

MOOS: Back in the '50s, Johnnie Ray (ph) was known as the crying crooner, the golden tear jerker. For him, it's a crying shame not to weep.

Jeanne Moos, CNN, New York.

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PHILLIPS: All right. When's the last time you cried?

HARRIS: Um, my babies, when they were born. The blubbering is the thing that...

PHILLIPS: A little cry is OK, but not the sob.

HARRIS: A little tear and it increases the manly steel. And but the blubbering it's just...

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HARRIS: He's expected to announce his resignation. We'll bring it to you when it happens, LIVE FROM'S hour of power, hour of power, begins right after this.

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