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International Olympic Committee Investigation May Redefine Anti-Doping Policies

Aired December 09, 2004 - 13:30   ET

THIS IS A RUSH TRANSCRIPT. THIS COPY MAY NOT BE IN ITS FINAL FORM AND MAY BE UPDATED.

THIS IS A RUSH TRANSCRIPT. THIS COPY MAY NOT BE IN ITS FINAL FORM AND MAY BE UPDATED.


FREDRICKA WHITFIELD, CNN ANCHOR: A look now at our top stories.
Canada's highest court clears the way to allow same sex marriage today. That government said that it can redefine marriage but says that religious officials can't be forced to perform such ceremonies against their beliefs.

One top liberal party member predicts the legislation will easily pass early next year, meaning Canada would join Belgium and The Netherlands in allowing gay marriage.

A silent March in Queensland, Australia as nearly 1,500 people protested the alleged oppression and racism of indigenous communities. This protest was a response to the death of a 36-year-old man in police custody last month.

But Australia's aborigines are also accusing the government of humiliating them after offering to provide one remote community with a gasoline pump if they agreed to make their children wash their faces twice a day.

When Wangari Maathai accepts the Nobel peace prize tomorrow, she'll become the first African woman and the first environmentalist to ever receive the prestigious award.

President Bush makes a promise, no new payroll taxes to cover a social security shortfall that is currently estimated at $11 trillion. Our Elaine Quijano is at the White House with more on that -- Elaine?

ELAINE QUIJANO, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Good afternoon to you, Fredricka.

That's right. Now, this idea of no new payroll tax increase to cover social security costs should not be surprising. After all, this president is one who campaigned on the idea of tax cuts.

So that idea not surprising at all. But the president did comment in trying to answer some questions reporters were asking after a meeting with social security trustees about how the Bush administration plans to pay for the president's idea of reforming social security.

Specifically, the president would like to see at least part of social security privatized so that younger workers would be allowed to invest part of their withholdings into private accounts. Well, here is what President Bush had to say, basically saying that no plan has been endorsed just yet.

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

GEORGE W. BUSH, PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES: I will not prejudge any solution. I think it's very important for the first step to be a common understanding of the size of the problem and then for members of both parties, in both bodies, to come together, to come and listen to the options available.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

QUIJANO: And at this particular point, White House spokesman, Scott McClellan, being peppered just a short time ago with questions on how the administration plans to cover what it's calling the upfront transition cost, or what would amount to borrowing, essentially, to cover the short-term cost of moving over to a partially privatized plan.

McClellan being very careful not to endorse any kind of plan that has already been put out there. At this point, saying only that the administration is willing to work with members of Congress, looking forward to working with members of Congress, to try to make that happen, but not going into specific details when pressed by reporters about how exactly those costs -- transition and also long-term -- will be met.

Fredricka?

WHITFIELD: Elaine Quijano at the White House, thanks so much for that report -- Kyra?

KYRA PHILLIPS, CNN ANCHOR: Well, the numbers are staggering and the scenarios are brutal. In a new UNICEF report on the state of the world's children, more than one billion children suffering extreme deprivations due to war, poverty and disease.

Gary Cattrell (ph) of Independent Television News puts faces on just a few of those statistics.

(BEGIN VIDEOTAPE)

GARY CATTRELL, INDEPENDENT TELEVISION NEWS: Conflict, poverty, AIDs -- the three reasons for a billion children suffering.

MICHAEL, JAMAICAN CHILD: God will help me. I know that God will help me to find a nice wife.

CATTRELL: The simple hope of Michael. At 15 Michael is the man of his house in Jamaica. His father has died of AIDs. Now he spends his time nursing his mother, who also has the disease.

MICHAEL: It's a critical stage, now, she reached. And if my mother should pass off right now, I don't know what going to happen to me.

CATTRELL: In Mozambique, these three young sisters are alone. Fourteen year old Laura, 12-year-old Kramilda (ph) and Anastasia, who is 10, now fend for themselves. Both their parents have died of AIDs.

MOZAMBIQUE FEMALE CHILD (through translator): When we came home from school, our house had been robbed. We feel very worried. We live alone here.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: The epidemic has grown in such a way that now it's producing the effect which the children -- you can see here, that three children living on their own, alone, no one to take care of them.

CATTRELL: Civil war is the problem in Colombia. The Darian Gap on Panama's Southern border with Colombia may be beautiful, but it's populated by children who have experienced the ugly.

These are refugees from Colombia.

COLOMBIAN CHILD (through translator): I saw an ugly killing by the paramilitaries. They cut out the eyes and the tongue and everything.

CATTRELL: Remember Michael? Soon after this was filmed, his mother died.

Gary Cattrell, ITV news.

(END VIDEOTAPE)

PHILLIPS: UNICEF executive director, Carol Bellamy, joins me now from London with more on the global crisis for children.

Just referring to that piece, Carol, it's hard to imagine, being in the United States, and seeing kids going on without parents or social services or something to take care of them.

What happens to these kids? Specifically these kids we saw in this piece?

CAROL BELLAMY, UNICEF EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR: Well, actually, the most recent figures for children who have been orphaned by AIDs or have lost at least one of their parents is 15 million children now. That's almost twice the number of children even here in the United Kingdom.

What happens in many cases is they are lost. They act out. They are very often denied access to school, which is one of the few things that might protect them.

There are more services available now, but we're talking huge numbers.

PHILLIPS: Now, in your report, you say that too many governments are making informed, deliberate choices that actually hurt childhood. Tell me what you mean by that.

BELLAMY: Well, we talk about the effect of conflict. You know, so many people see scenes of the Iraq war and they see people in uniform. But most wars around the world today are not between military fighting forces, but rather within countries.

And 90 percent of civilians are now the victims of war. And yet it's the governments who make the decision to put the money into armaments, not into peace, not into education.

Governments that fail to confront this pandemic of HIV and AIDs, that waited so long, that denied that AIDs was really consuming their societies, these are the decisions that have hurt children.

They're not neutral decisions. They're harmful decisions.

PHILLIPS: I want to talk about more long-term options. But immediately, do we as a world, specifically all of us in the United States, do we need to think more about adoption? Do we need to take that more seriously? Do we need to contemplate that more?

BELLAMY: I don't think adoption is necessarily the response, at least when it comes to children who have lost parents due to HIV and AIDs.

What we really need, in some cases, is to try to keep the parents alive longer. There is treatment that can do that. We need to build more strength in the extended families. And we need to work in communities to build community support systems for these children.

We're already talking 15 million. And that's largely only in Africa, whereas the AIDs crisis is a global crisis.

PHILLIPS: Well, you talk about seven deadly deprivations, from kids that don't have shelter, sanitation, safe water. There is lack of access to information, health care, school, even severely food deprived.

When you look at those seven deadly deprivations, if we were to pick one out that could make the biggest difference, what would it be?

BELLAMY: We believe it would be education. If all children got an education this would be the breakthrough that would at least begin to create the possibility of breaking this cycle of poverty.

The reason we talk about these deprivations is that we want to argue that for children, poverty is different than from adults. It isn't just economic growth. It's the lack of these services.

If a child gets an education, there's at least an opportunity to break out.

PHILLIPS: Carol what happened in the 1989 human rights treaty, when the government promised so many solutions to this issue?

BELLAMY: Well, the convention on the rights of the child has taken root in many countries. But as you can see from these numbers, it hasn't taken root as strongly as it should have.

What at least this convention does, is it challenges government leaders to meet their obligations. It isn't a matter of just pleading with government. Governments have an obligation under this convention.

They have to be held to that responsibility.

PHILLIPS: UNICEF executive director, Carol Bellamy.

I know you are holding a lot of people accountable for those big numbers.

Thanks, Carol, for your time today.

BELLAMY: Thank you.

PHILLIPS: Fred?

WHITFIELD: Well, Kyra, straight ahead, can Marion Jones survive an investigation that may threaten her Olympic gold medals?

More LIVE FROM right after this.

(COMMERCIAL BREAK)

WHITFIELD: Sports and steroids, this week, pledges from Capitol Hill to Lausanne, Switzerland to clean up major league baseball and Olympic athletes.

All of this stemming from recently leaked grand jury testimonies involving Balco, a California lab accused of supplying athletes with banned performance enhancing drug.

Baseball slugger, Jason Giambi isn't the only career at stake. But Olympian, Marion Jones, may be as well.

Could she be stripped of her five medals? Ed Hula has been following the international Olympic committee's doping investigation launched on Tuesday. He is the founder of the Olympic newsletter "Around the Rings."

Explain how this IOC investigation would work.

ED HULA, EDITOR, "AROUND THE RINGS": Well, it's, I think, plowing new ground for the IOC because what they have here is hearsay evidence. They announced the other day that they are going to form a commission to investigate allegations made by Victor Conte, the man who founded Balco...

WHITFIELD: Yes, I know.

HULA: ... behind Balco. And he has claimed that Marion Jones and some other athletes used his products to gain an advantage, and specifically Marion Jones used his products in the lead-up to the Sydney Olympics.

But the IOC has been very careful so far not to mention Marion Jones by name in this.

WHITFIELD: Exactly, in fact, specifically, the IOC is saying that, "The allegations made by Mr. Conte are extremely serious, and the IOC is fully committed to bringing to light any elements," that may, "that help the truth prevail," without using the name Marion Jones.

However, you know if the IOC finds they have a reason to go after Marion Jones, there is this three-year rule. It's past three years since she won her five medals in Sydney. So can they really pursue anything with her? And there is no positive drug testing.

HULA: No positive drug test. A couple of things to say here, the three-year rule is a rule that the IOC created.

It's a self-imposed rule...

WHITFIELD: So they can change the rule.

HULA: They run the games, they can change...

WHITFIELD: OK.

HULA: ... they can change the rules or interpret them as they see fit.

With the passage of new legislation around the world, anti-doping legislation, the standards of evidence have changed. Not just a positive drug test any more, but other examples, other evidence can be considered.

An athlete's admission, a witness, other evidence beside the actual positive drug test can now be considered by investigators as they consider anti-doping violations.

WHITFIELD: So you have to wonder if, perhaps, the IOC might pursue trying to get testimony from C.J. Hunter, her ex-husband, who did test positive, perhaps even her current boyfriend, Tim Montgomery.

HULA: That's the sort of thing...

WHITFIELD: But they would have to cooperate.

HULA: They would have to cooperate.

WHITFIELD: It would be up to them.

HULA: The IOC does not have the power to compel people to come appear before them.

Now what could happen, if they do decide to go after Marion Jones and formally accuse her or other athletes of engaging in and using these performance enhancing drugs, than it falls to Marion Jones or those athletes to defend themselves, to go to the hearing that the IOC calls and to explain their side of the story.

So, it may come to that, if the IOC can come up with enough evidence to bring charges against someone. WHITFIELD: And on the issue -- on the issue of fairness, however, during this discovery of the investigation involving the IOC, even if they never really have anything to nail on Marion Jones or another Olympian whose name may come up, her reputation, their reputations, are forever soiled just as a result of being part of the investigation.

HULA: I don't think you can get away from it. It's an unfortunate consequence for Marion Jones. It's hearsay. He said-she said type of thing.

The truth has been mentioned as one of the objectives of the IOC investigation, of other inquiries. But I don't think we're going to get the truth out of this. I think we're going to get more unanswered questions, more doubts as the years go ahead here.

WHITFIELD: Has it ever happened that an Olympian was stripped of his or her medals without a positive drug test?

HULA: Not yet. But it's coming to that. As I say, the other evidence is now being considered for these tests, for these -- for this proof. And one of these days, it will happen that an athlete is stripped their medal without that positive test.

WHITFIELD: All right. We'll be watching the developments of the IOC investigation, still in the beginning stages, just getting off the ground this week.

HULA: That's right.

WHITFIELD: Ed Hula of "Around the Rings," thanks so much.

HULA: It's a pleasure.

WHITFIELD: And we'll be right back right after this.

SCHAFFLER: I'm Rhonda Schaffler at the New York Stock Exchange.

Another animation giant getting hit on news of a movie delay. I'll tell you who it is coming up on LIVE FROM.

Don't go away.

(COMMERCIAL BREAK)

SCHAFFLER: I'm Rhonda Schaffler at the New York Stock Exchange where stocks are trying to make a little headway today.

There are a couple of sales warnings in the chip sector as well as higher crude prices today. Stocks have bounced back significantly from some early morning lows.

The Dow is up 16 points. NASDAQ slightly higher.

DreamWorks shares are dropping more than 5 percent after that company delayed a release of "Shrek 3." The third installment in the blockbuster series has now been moved to the summer of 2007 from the fall of 2006.

DreamWorks says the summer release will let the studio cash in on a bigger kid audience and the lucrative holiday DVD market that follows.

Yesterday, shares of rival animation giant, Pixar, fell after it postponed the release of its next film, "Cars."

That's latest from Wall Street.

Coming up, Hyatt hotels lands itself a sweet deal and hotel rates are on the rise. Those stories in the next hour of LIVE FROM.

In the meantime, Kyra, Fred, back to you.

WHITFIELD: All right. Thanks a lot Rhonda.

PHILLIPS: Well, all the big stories of the day coming up. But LIVE FROM's second hour also has a song in its heart.

Listen to that, a new CD from American Idol, Diana DeGarmo. She joins us live on LIVE FROM.

We'll be right back.

(COMMERCIAL BREAK)

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Aired December 9, 2004 - 13:30   ET
THIS IS A RUSH TRANSCRIPT. THIS COPY MAY NOT BE IN ITS FINAL FORM AND MAY BE UPDATED.
FREDRICKA WHITFIELD, CNN ANCHOR: A look now at our top stories.
Canada's highest court clears the way to allow same sex marriage today. That government said that it can redefine marriage but says that religious officials can't be forced to perform such ceremonies against their beliefs.

One top liberal party member predicts the legislation will easily pass early next year, meaning Canada would join Belgium and The Netherlands in allowing gay marriage.

A silent March in Queensland, Australia as nearly 1,500 people protested the alleged oppression and racism of indigenous communities. This protest was a response to the death of a 36-year-old man in police custody last month.

But Australia's aborigines are also accusing the government of humiliating them after offering to provide one remote community with a gasoline pump if they agreed to make their children wash their faces twice a day.

When Wangari Maathai accepts the Nobel peace prize tomorrow, she'll become the first African woman and the first environmentalist to ever receive the prestigious award.

President Bush makes a promise, no new payroll taxes to cover a social security shortfall that is currently estimated at $11 trillion. Our Elaine Quijano is at the White House with more on that -- Elaine?

ELAINE QUIJANO, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Good afternoon to you, Fredricka.

That's right. Now, this idea of no new payroll tax increase to cover social security costs should not be surprising. After all, this president is one who campaigned on the idea of tax cuts.

So that idea not surprising at all. But the president did comment in trying to answer some questions reporters were asking after a meeting with social security trustees about how the Bush administration plans to pay for the president's idea of reforming social security.

Specifically, the president would like to see at least part of social security privatized so that younger workers would be allowed to invest part of their withholdings into private accounts. Well, here is what President Bush had to say, basically saying that no plan has been endorsed just yet.

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

GEORGE W. BUSH, PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES: I will not prejudge any solution. I think it's very important for the first step to be a common understanding of the size of the problem and then for members of both parties, in both bodies, to come together, to come and listen to the options available.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

QUIJANO: And at this particular point, White House spokesman, Scott McClellan, being peppered just a short time ago with questions on how the administration plans to cover what it's calling the upfront transition cost, or what would amount to borrowing, essentially, to cover the short-term cost of moving over to a partially privatized plan.

McClellan being very careful not to endorse any kind of plan that has already been put out there. At this point, saying only that the administration is willing to work with members of Congress, looking forward to working with members of Congress, to try to make that happen, but not going into specific details when pressed by reporters about how exactly those costs -- transition and also long-term -- will be met.

Fredricka?

WHITFIELD: Elaine Quijano at the White House, thanks so much for that report -- Kyra?

KYRA PHILLIPS, CNN ANCHOR: Well, the numbers are staggering and the scenarios are brutal. In a new UNICEF report on the state of the world's children, more than one billion children suffering extreme deprivations due to war, poverty and disease.

Gary Cattrell (ph) of Independent Television News puts faces on just a few of those statistics.

(BEGIN VIDEOTAPE)

GARY CATTRELL, INDEPENDENT TELEVISION NEWS: Conflict, poverty, AIDs -- the three reasons for a billion children suffering.

MICHAEL, JAMAICAN CHILD: God will help me. I know that God will help me to find a nice wife.

CATTRELL: The simple hope of Michael. At 15 Michael is the man of his house in Jamaica. His father has died of AIDs. Now he spends his time nursing his mother, who also has the disease.

MICHAEL: It's a critical stage, now, she reached. And if my mother should pass off right now, I don't know what going to happen to me.

CATTRELL: In Mozambique, these three young sisters are alone. Fourteen year old Laura, 12-year-old Kramilda (ph) and Anastasia, who is 10, now fend for themselves. Both their parents have died of AIDs.

MOZAMBIQUE FEMALE CHILD (through translator): When we came home from school, our house had been robbed. We feel very worried. We live alone here.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: The epidemic has grown in such a way that now it's producing the effect which the children -- you can see here, that three children living on their own, alone, no one to take care of them.

CATTRELL: Civil war is the problem in Colombia. The Darian Gap on Panama's Southern border with Colombia may be beautiful, but it's populated by children who have experienced the ugly.

These are refugees from Colombia.

COLOMBIAN CHILD (through translator): I saw an ugly killing by the paramilitaries. They cut out the eyes and the tongue and everything.

CATTRELL: Remember Michael? Soon after this was filmed, his mother died.

Gary Cattrell, ITV news.

(END VIDEOTAPE)

PHILLIPS: UNICEF executive director, Carol Bellamy, joins me now from London with more on the global crisis for children.

Just referring to that piece, Carol, it's hard to imagine, being in the United States, and seeing kids going on without parents or social services or something to take care of them.

What happens to these kids? Specifically these kids we saw in this piece?

CAROL BELLAMY, UNICEF EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR: Well, actually, the most recent figures for children who have been orphaned by AIDs or have lost at least one of their parents is 15 million children now. That's almost twice the number of children even here in the United Kingdom.

What happens in many cases is they are lost. They act out. They are very often denied access to school, which is one of the few things that might protect them.

There are more services available now, but we're talking huge numbers.

PHILLIPS: Now, in your report, you say that too many governments are making informed, deliberate choices that actually hurt childhood. Tell me what you mean by that.

BELLAMY: Well, we talk about the effect of conflict. You know, so many people see scenes of the Iraq war and they see people in uniform. But most wars around the world today are not between military fighting forces, but rather within countries.

And 90 percent of civilians are now the victims of war. And yet it's the governments who make the decision to put the money into armaments, not into peace, not into education.

Governments that fail to confront this pandemic of HIV and AIDs, that waited so long, that denied that AIDs was really consuming their societies, these are the decisions that have hurt children.

They're not neutral decisions. They're harmful decisions.

PHILLIPS: I want to talk about more long-term options. But immediately, do we as a world, specifically all of us in the United States, do we need to think more about adoption? Do we need to take that more seriously? Do we need to contemplate that more?

BELLAMY: I don't think adoption is necessarily the response, at least when it comes to children who have lost parents due to HIV and AIDs.

What we really need, in some cases, is to try to keep the parents alive longer. There is treatment that can do that. We need to build more strength in the extended families. And we need to work in communities to build community support systems for these children.

We're already talking 15 million. And that's largely only in Africa, whereas the AIDs crisis is a global crisis.

PHILLIPS: Well, you talk about seven deadly deprivations, from kids that don't have shelter, sanitation, safe water. There is lack of access to information, health care, school, even severely food deprived.

When you look at those seven deadly deprivations, if we were to pick one out that could make the biggest difference, what would it be?

BELLAMY: We believe it would be education. If all children got an education this would be the breakthrough that would at least begin to create the possibility of breaking this cycle of poverty.

The reason we talk about these deprivations is that we want to argue that for children, poverty is different than from adults. It isn't just economic growth. It's the lack of these services.

If a child gets an education, there's at least an opportunity to break out.

PHILLIPS: Carol what happened in the 1989 human rights treaty, when the government promised so many solutions to this issue?

BELLAMY: Well, the convention on the rights of the child has taken root in many countries. But as you can see from these numbers, it hasn't taken root as strongly as it should have.

What at least this convention does, is it challenges government leaders to meet their obligations. It isn't a matter of just pleading with government. Governments have an obligation under this convention.

They have to be held to that responsibility.

PHILLIPS: UNICEF executive director, Carol Bellamy.

I know you are holding a lot of people accountable for those big numbers.

Thanks, Carol, for your time today.

BELLAMY: Thank you.

PHILLIPS: Fred?

WHITFIELD: Well, Kyra, straight ahead, can Marion Jones survive an investigation that may threaten her Olympic gold medals?

More LIVE FROM right after this.

(COMMERCIAL BREAK)

WHITFIELD: Sports and steroids, this week, pledges from Capitol Hill to Lausanne, Switzerland to clean up major league baseball and Olympic athletes.

All of this stemming from recently leaked grand jury testimonies involving Balco, a California lab accused of supplying athletes with banned performance enhancing drug.

Baseball slugger, Jason Giambi isn't the only career at stake. But Olympian, Marion Jones, may be as well.

Could she be stripped of her five medals? Ed Hula has been following the international Olympic committee's doping investigation launched on Tuesday. He is the founder of the Olympic newsletter "Around the Rings."

Explain how this IOC investigation would work.

ED HULA, EDITOR, "AROUND THE RINGS": Well, it's, I think, plowing new ground for the IOC because what they have here is hearsay evidence. They announced the other day that they are going to form a commission to investigate allegations made by Victor Conte, the man who founded Balco...

WHITFIELD: Yes, I know.

HULA: ... behind Balco. And he has claimed that Marion Jones and some other athletes used his products to gain an advantage, and specifically Marion Jones used his products in the lead-up to the Sydney Olympics.

But the IOC has been very careful so far not to mention Marion Jones by name in this.

WHITFIELD: Exactly, in fact, specifically, the IOC is saying that, "The allegations made by Mr. Conte are extremely serious, and the IOC is fully committed to bringing to light any elements," that may, "that help the truth prevail," without using the name Marion Jones.

However, you know if the IOC finds they have a reason to go after Marion Jones, there is this three-year rule. It's past three years since she won her five medals in Sydney. So can they really pursue anything with her? And there is no positive drug testing.

HULA: No positive drug test. A couple of things to say here, the three-year rule is a rule that the IOC created.

It's a self-imposed rule...

WHITFIELD: So they can change the rule.

HULA: They run the games, they can change...

WHITFIELD: OK.

HULA: ... they can change the rules or interpret them as they see fit.

With the passage of new legislation around the world, anti-doping legislation, the standards of evidence have changed. Not just a positive drug test any more, but other examples, other evidence can be considered.

An athlete's admission, a witness, other evidence beside the actual positive drug test can now be considered by investigators as they consider anti-doping violations.

WHITFIELD: So you have to wonder if, perhaps, the IOC might pursue trying to get testimony from C.J. Hunter, her ex-husband, who did test positive, perhaps even her current boyfriend, Tim Montgomery.

HULA: That's the sort of thing...

WHITFIELD: But they would have to cooperate.

HULA: They would have to cooperate.

WHITFIELD: It would be up to them.

HULA: The IOC does not have the power to compel people to come appear before them.

Now what could happen, if they do decide to go after Marion Jones and formally accuse her or other athletes of engaging in and using these performance enhancing drugs, than it falls to Marion Jones or those athletes to defend themselves, to go to the hearing that the IOC calls and to explain their side of the story.

So, it may come to that, if the IOC can come up with enough evidence to bring charges against someone. WHITFIELD: And on the issue -- on the issue of fairness, however, during this discovery of the investigation involving the IOC, even if they never really have anything to nail on Marion Jones or another Olympian whose name may come up, her reputation, their reputations, are forever soiled just as a result of being part of the investigation.

HULA: I don't think you can get away from it. It's an unfortunate consequence for Marion Jones. It's hearsay. He said-she said type of thing.

The truth has been mentioned as one of the objectives of the IOC investigation, of other inquiries. But I don't think we're going to get the truth out of this. I think we're going to get more unanswered questions, more doubts as the years go ahead here.

WHITFIELD: Has it ever happened that an Olympian was stripped of his or her medals without a positive drug test?

HULA: Not yet. But it's coming to that. As I say, the other evidence is now being considered for these tests, for these -- for this proof. And one of these days, it will happen that an athlete is stripped their medal without that positive test.

WHITFIELD: All right. We'll be watching the developments of the IOC investigation, still in the beginning stages, just getting off the ground this week.

HULA: That's right.

WHITFIELD: Ed Hula of "Around the Rings," thanks so much.

HULA: It's a pleasure.

WHITFIELD: And we'll be right back right after this.

SCHAFFLER: I'm Rhonda Schaffler at the New York Stock Exchange.

Another animation giant getting hit on news of a movie delay. I'll tell you who it is coming up on LIVE FROM.

Don't go away.

(COMMERCIAL BREAK)

SCHAFFLER: I'm Rhonda Schaffler at the New York Stock Exchange where stocks are trying to make a little headway today.

There are a couple of sales warnings in the chip sector as well as higher crude prices today. Stocks have bounced back significantly from some early morning lows.

The Dow is up 16 points. NASDAQ slightly higher.

DreamWorks shares are dropping more than 5 percent after that company delayed a release of "Shrek 3." The third installment in the blockbuster series has now been moved to the summer of 2007 from the fall of 2006.

DreamWorks says the summer release will let the studio cash in on a bigger kid audience and the lucrative holiday DVD market that follows.

Yesterday, shares of rival animation giant, Pixar, fell after it postponed the release of its next film, "Cars."

That's latest from Wall Street.

Coming up, Hyatt hotels lands itself a sweet deal and hotel rates are on the rise. Those stories in the next hour of LIVE FROM.

In the meantime, Kyra, Fred, back to you.

WHITFIELD: All right. Thanks a lot Rhonda.

PHILLIPS: Well, all the big stories of the day coming up. But LIVE FROM's second hour also has a song in its heart.

Listen to that, a new CD from American Idol, Diana DeGarmo. She joins us live on LIVE FROM.

We'll be right back.

(COMMERCIAL BREAK)

TO ORDER A VIDEO OF THIS TRANSCRIPT, PLEASE CALL 800-CNN-NEWS OR USE OUR SECURE ONLINE ORDER FORM LOCATED AT www.fdch.com