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In Iraq, Officials Tallying Millions of Votes; Did Antidepressants Drive 12-Year-Old Boy to Shoot, Kill Grandparents?
Aired January 31, 2005 - 13:31 ET
THIS IS A RUSH TRANSCRIPT. THIS COPY MAY NOT BE IN ITS FINAL FORM AND MAY BE UPDATED.
THIS IS A RUSH TRANSCRIPT. THIS COPY MAY NOT BE IN ITS FINAL FORM AND MAY BE UPDATED.
TONY HARRIS, CNN ANCHOR: Checking stories now in the news, a federal judge ruled some terror suspects at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba may challenge their confinement. The judge also says military tribunals for the detainees are not constitutional. The issue will likely go back before the courts on appeal.
If you felt a little heavier last month, it may not have been the eggnog. It could have been the extra cash in your wallet. Commerce Department reports personal income shot up a record 3.7 percent in December, just as Americans were going out to shop. A big Microsoft dividend contributed to the increase. The Vatican says Pope John Paul II is fighting the flu. This prompted him to cancel his meetings for the day. The 84-year-old pope looked relatively healthy at a youth peace event yesterday. We'll have a live report in the next hour.
And tonight's execution of a convicted serial killer is called off. Michael Ross was scheduled to die by lethal injection at 9:00 tonight. Connecticut officials delayed the execution for the second time in three days after his lawyer filed an appeal based on Ross' mental capacity.
KYRA PHILLIPS, CNN ANCHOR: Democrats won't waste any time responding to President Bush's State of the Union Address Wednesday. In fact, they've already started. The two top Democrats in Congress spoke to the National Press Club this morning. Representative Nancy Pelosi promised to oppose the president's Social Security plan. Senator Harry Reid called for more troops and an exit strategy in Iraq.
(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)
REP. NANCY PELOSI (D), MINORITY LEADER: In President Bush's administration we have seen a propensity to manufacture crises where none exist, and then turn to preordained ideas as solutions to them.
(END VIDEO CLIP)
(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)
SEN. HARRY REID (D), MINORITY LEADER: Yesterday's elections were a milestone. But on Wednesday night, the president needs to spell out a real and understandable plan for the unfinished work ahead.
(END VIDEO CLIP)
PHILLIPS: And you can tune in to CNN Wednesday for our special prime time coverage of the president's speech.
In Iraq, officials are tallying millions of votes that many hope will lead their country to a lasting democracy. It will be a long process.
CNN's Jane Arraf joins us live by videophone from the Baqubah area -- Jane.
JANE ARRAF, CNN CORRESPONDENT: An estimated 3,000 ballots that were filled out, votes that were cast here in this area are actually being counted here. We are just outside of Baqubah, where in this warehouse-type building, they have brought the plastic boxes with the ballots. And what you're seeing in front of you are the actual ballots that are taken out of these boxes and laboriously laid out and counted here by these election workers.
They've been here since yesterday. It's freezing cold here. They've had very little sleep, but this is a process that's expected to take a few days.
Now we have with us someone who is going to talk to us about the election, about security. His name is Lieutenant Assaf (ph), who is known otherwise by his American colleagues as Lieutenant Stormy (ph). Thanks very for much being with us.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Thank you.
ARRAF: Tell us, you yourself voted yesterday. What was that like?
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Actually, the election yesterday was very good. I vote for Ayad Allawi, because he did a good job for the Iraqi people, and the Iraq people did good job, too, in the election. And we work with the coalition forces in Baqubah about the security and everything, and we did good job.
ARRAF: Let's talk about security, let's talk about what it's like being an Iraqi police officer. Yesterday you were in Bacara (ph), just outside of Baqubah, where a lot of people couldn't vote. What happened there?
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Actually, the bad guys make trouble yesterday, but they failed, because the IPs defend the sides (ph) very well. Actually with the Kurdish forces, they defend for all the time (ph).
ARRAF: You're 26 years old. You just got married two months ago. What do you think is going to happen in the future for Iraq?
HARRIS: That was Jane Arraf, by videophone in Baqubah.
PHILLIPS: Well, did antidepression drugs drive a 12-year-old boy to shoot and kill his grandparents while they slept, then burn their house down?
CNN medical correspondent Elizabeth Cohen has the latest on day No. 1 of the boy's murder trial in Charleston, South Carolina -- Elizabeth.
ELIZABETH COHEN, CNN MEDICAL CORRESPONDENT: Well, the jury has just been sworn in, in the courthouse behind me. And central in this case will be what made this 12-year-old boy kill. Was it indeed the antidepressant Zoloft?
(BEGIN VIDEOTAPE)
COHEN (voice-over): Christopher Pittman was 12 when, by his own admission, he shot his grandparents to death as they slept, then used candles and lighter fluid to burn down the house.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: This kid waved to his grandparents, went to bed, went to sleep, came in and shot them in the face, in the mouth with a shotgun, as cold, brutal an act as I've witnessed in 25 years of prosecuting.
COHEN: After a troubled boyhood and a brief psychiatric stay near his home in Florida, Chris had gone to live with the grandparents in rural South Carolina. After a school fight, they talked about sending him back.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: The shotgun my son used was the first gun my dad ever bought me when I was a boy. I let him bring it back with him, and...
COHEN: Chris' father was at a loss.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Right now, I don't see my son. I don't see that light in his eyes. I see darkness.
COHEN: The family blames a popular antidepressant he was taking, Zoloft. It's never been approved for children with depression, yet is often prescribed. This defense lawyer wants to put Zoloft on trial.
ANDY VICKERY, DEFENSE LAWYER: It drove him out of his mind, it put him out of touch with reality. It made him hear voices.
COHEN: Pfizer, which makes Zoloft, denies any connection to the deaths. It says, there is no scientific evidence to suggest that Zoloft contributes to violent behavior in either adults or children.
Now 15, Chris Pittman goes on trial as an adult facing 30 years to life for murder. He gave this account of the shootings in a letter his father read at a Food and Drug Administration hearing a year ago.
JOE PITTMAN, FATHER: When I was lying in my bed that night, I couldn't sleep because my voice in my head kept echoing in my mind, telling me to kill them.
(END VIDEOTAPE)
COHEN: The FDA has found that there is a link between this type of antidepressant and suicidal thoughts in behaviors among children and teens. And for that reason, the FDA has warned doctors to watch for signs of hostile behavior and aggression among children and teens taking drugs like Zoloft. That warning came three years after the Pittman murders. The FDA has not found that type of link between antidepressants and violence towards others -- Kyra.
PHILLIPS: What about the prospective jurors in the use of the drugs, Elizabeth?
COHEN: Well, they did ask a group of 70 potential jurors, how many of you have friends or family who have taken Zoloft? And interesting (INAUDIBLE) stood up. So that's a pretty heavy percentage.
PHILLIPS: Elizabeth Cohen, live from the trial there. We'll continue to check in with you. Thank you so much.
Straight ahead on LIVE FROM, a woman refuses to take a job as a prostitute, and the government cuts her unemployment benefits. Our "What The" segment of the day is back.
But first, it's time to get beautified. Queer eye cutie -- how is that for a play on words?
Kyan, did you like that? Kyan Douglas in the house. That's right. Guess who gets to make over? No, it's not me or Tony, because we're already perfectly dressed, right?
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Perfect. Tony, I love your tie.
HARRIS: Thank you!
PHILLIPS: He hit it with the tie.
We're going to talk about Miles' blue shirts when we come back. Don't go away.
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PHILLIPS: Well, the premise is simple and successful. Five gay men making over the world, one straight guy at a time. Kyan Douglas is one of the fab five on TV's "Queer Eye for the Straight Guy." He's the grooming guru. He's also the author of this new book, "Beautified: Secrets for Women to Look Great and Feel Fabulous." That's because every guy in his life already looks good, so now he's helping all of us, the women.
Kyan Douglas is with us right now to talk about this book and just talk about life. Nice to have you with us.
KYAN DOUGLAS, "QUEER EYE FOR THE STRAIGHT GUY": Thank you for having me. You look gorgeous, I have to say.
PHILLIPS: No, you know what? $6.99 necklace. I know it's got to go. I know. Sorry.
DOUGLAS: It was working for me.
PHILLIPS: It was? DOUGLAS: It was totally working for me. Put it back on.
PHILLIPS: OK, it's back on. All right, don't tell anybody.
DOUGLAS: You didn't have to tell anyone that you paid that much.
PHILLIPS: OK. Now I just want Robert to get a shot of these cuffs. I mean, this is just hot. This is a part of the blue shirt, though. It's not two separate things.
DOUGLAS: It is. It's actually the cuff. And this is a beautiful Paul Smith shirt. And I love the detail in the cuff. I just decided to wear them out.
PHILLIPS: But this doesn't necessarily mean that cuff links are gone.
DOUGLAS: No, not at all. Cuff links are great.
PHILLIPS: All right, tell me about book.
DOUGLAS: Right, Tony?
PHILLIPS: Oh! Tony!
DOUGLAS: We already know that Kyan likes Tony's tie. So everybody take note.
HARRIS: All credit to my wife. I'm colorblind.
DOUGLAS: Good hair, good teeth, good tie.
PHILLIPS: Wow. Oh, man. They're totally bonding. OK, wait, this book is about women. Let's talk about...
DOUGLAS: I know, let's talk about the ladies.
PHILLIPS: ... beautiful women.
DOUGLAS: Let's talk about the ladies.
PHILLIPS: Why did you do it?
DOUGLAS: I had so many women coming up to me and saying thank you so much for helping my husband or helping my boyfriend. He's finally shaving the right way or not using hand soap on his face. Well, what about me and what about my hair? So I wanted to write a beauty book, but also a book that addressed beauty sort of in a larger context, that talked about beauty on the inside, as well as the outside.
PHILLIPS: No, I did notice that. It was actually a whole section on the spirit. I even said to our segment producer, I want to get into that. And it's not just because I just went to the Himalayas and I'm all into this omm, you know, spiritual.
DOUGLAS: There's nothing wrong with a little spiritual balance in life.
PHILLIPS: A little meditation.
DOUGLAS: Just a balance.
PHILLIPS: Exactly. Why do you think that is so important? Because people -- individuals are so consumed with what they look like, what they're wearing.
DOUGLAS: I'll tell you what. I was, you know, very much influenced by my grandmother, by my mother. Hi, Mom! Hi, Judy! My sister Kelly. And so I really learned growing up how important, you know, body issues can be to women. So I thought it was important to discuss beauty in a larger context, because it's just as important to look -- you know, look great, feel great, but also take care of yourself on the inside and be the best person you can be coming from the inside out.
PHILLIPS: Well, it's all about great energy, right?
DOUGLAS: It's all about great energy. I think beauty really does start from within. So that's what the book's about.
PHILLIPS: So what did grandma teach you?
DOUGLAS: My grandmother taught me -- I'll never forget it. She taught me to be true to myself. Obviously being a gay person, that's a very important thing to hold true, because, you know, if you can't count on yourself, you can't count on anyone, so.
PHILLIPS: That's a good -- I want to ask you about that. The show, how did the gay community react? How did the anti-gay community react? Was it tough for you to do this show and then go out in public? I can just imagine...
DOUGLAS: You know, I had a moment of hesitation when I was first cast, because the title was so -- you know, that word, queer, it was so intense.
PHILLIPS: That's a hard-core word.
DOUGLAS: You know what? I think when people understand the context of the show, they really get that it's a light, fun, you know, well-intentioned show, not to be taken too seriously. I think it's been accepted by the gay community and by straight people for that reason.
PHILLIPS: Well, what's great, too, I noticed that it's not very intimidating, I would think, for a straight man. Because you've got Carson, who's very flamboyant, OK? And then there's you, a little more subtle.
DOUGLAS: And then Ted, who plays it straight.
PHILLIPS: Like he's got the macho thing going on. So was that -- do you think that's why it did so well? DOUGLAS: You know what, I think the reason the show has done has so well is because it basically -- it's a show about people helping people. And that is a universal thing. We live in a crazy world with, you know, tsunamis happening and elections going crazy in Iraq and things like that. We all sort of really relate to the positive element of the show. It really is a show about people helping people. And that just is -- it is what it is.
PHILLIPS: Now has this -- you said you hesitated a little bit when you were cast for this. Have you gotten more involved in the gay community? Do you feel more comfortable about that part of your life?
DOUGLAS: I think that I've taken the opportunity to be as positive a person as I can be, positive role model as I can be. But I've always been sort of active in the gay community and have always gathered my strength from the gay community.
PHILLIPS: Did this break a lot of stereotypes, you think, when this show came out?
DOUGLAS: You know what, I had someone tell me the other day that -- I don't know that it breaks stereotypes, but I think it allows people to see certain stereotypes that are often frozen in a moment played out over the course of a show. And people realize, so what if he's a little flamboyant? There's nothing wrong with that, there's nothing to be afraid of or nothing to worry about.
PHILLIPS: Any of the guys that you did the makeover on, did any of them reach a point where they just -- OK, I can't take this anymore. I'm freaking out.
DOUGLAS: You know what, there was -- there's a guy coming up in this season. We just started our new season, we're in the middle of it now. A few shows into it. And there was one guy, he was a little taken aback by Carson and a little taken aback by Tom. And you'll see when that airs how that played out during the course of the show. Very interesting.
PHILLIPS: Interesting.
DOUGLAS: Yes.
PHILLIPS: Are the guys carefully selected? Or -- OK, they are.
DOUGLAS: They are. There is a sort of a branch of the show, producers that go out and find the right guy, because they want to find a guy that needs a makeover, that has an interesting story, that isn't an axe murderer or whatever. And it's going to be fun. You know, because at the end of the day...
PHILLIPS: They've got to be able to play ball.
DOUGLAS: They've got to be able to play ball. So, yes.
PHILLIPS: OK. I need some help with my co-anchor.
DOUGLAS: Yes.
PHILLIPS: And, of course, we picked -- now I'm not talking about Tony, because Tony is the best-dressed man on CNN. You've already made that point. He's got the tie, the suit.
DOUGLAS: He's the total package.
PHILLIPS: We're talking Miles O'Brien.
DOUGLAS: OK, Miles.
PHILLIPS: He's our space geek. You know? But he doesn't like to think of himself as a geek.
DOUGLAS: But he's not a bad looking guy.
PHILLIPS: No.
DOUGLAS: He's handsome. I think he's handsome.
PHILLIPS: All right. Let's take a look at him here.
HARRIS: Miles! Miles!
PHILLIPS: No. We're going to hold on this. So you think he's handsome guy?
DOUGLAS: I think he's handsome guy.
PHILLIPS: I agree. I think he's a cutie pie. Now, what do we need to work on here? Can I just ask -- OK, go ahead. First reaction.
DOUGLAS: Well, you told me about the shirt.
PHILLIPS: OK. We had a boss, who said, Miles, blue shirts. It's all about the blue shirts. I am not kidding you. He has always to this day -- for almost a year now, only blue shirts.
DOUGLAS: Every day, blue shirts?
PHILLIPS: He only wears blue shirts.
DOUGLAS: That is the funniest thing about guys in general, especially straight guys. They hear one little piece of positive information and they hold to it so literally. There's nothing wrong with a blue shirt. But you don't have to wear one every day.
PHILLIPS: What color should he wear?
DOUGLAS: Probably white, since he's a news anchor. Blue. A light pale pink, maybe, would look great. Possibly a yellow. But blue's great, too. Just not every day.
PHILLIPS: What do you think of the hair?
DOUGLAS: I think the hair is good. I think it could possibly be a little thinner and a little tighter.
PHILLIPS: Piecier, maybe?
DOUGLAS: Might be a little, sort of, puffy right now.
PHILLIPS: What about the eyebrows? Does he have kind of that unibrow thing going on?
DOUGLAS: You know what, I can't see. From this picture, it looks OK.
PHILLIPS: OK.
HARRIS: A unibrow!
PHILLIPS: Well, I told him to pluck it. But I'm not going to say that out loud.
DOUGLAS: Does he have a little unibrow?
PHILLIPS: He has a little unibrow thing going on. And every now and then, the nose hair, you know...
DOUGLAS: The nose hair is the worst. Can't do that.
PHILLIPS: Oh, shoot. I'm getting the wrap. I guess I'm in trouble. OK. Well now that we know Miles is a handsome guy, according to you, and you are the grooming guru, here is the book, once again. "Get Beautified." Oh, good, we got a perfect graphic. Look at that. I don't even have to pull the book up. Come back and visit us.
DOUGLAS: Thank you so much. This was so fun.
PHILLIPS: It was a blast. Thank you.
DOUGLAS: Thanks, Tony.
HARRIS: Oh, shoot.
PHILLIPS: All right. We know he's OK. Will you come through my closet?
DOUGLAS: I will be happy to.
PHILLIPS: 3:30 this afternoon?
DOUGLAS: Go through your beauty products, absolutely.
PHILLIPS: Love it. All right, more LIVE FROM right after this.
(COMMERCIAL BREAK)
HARRIS: Jim and Tammy Faye Bakker, names synonymous with the PTL and Heritage USA, the televangelists created an empire using millions of donations from their followers but eventually fell from grace. As part of CNN's anniversary series "Then & Now," we take a look back and Jim and Tammy Faye Bakker and where they are today.
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UNIDENTIFIED MALE (voice-over): In the early 1980s, Jim and Tammy Faye Bakker became pop icons as leaders of the hugely successful PTL Club TV ministries. The couple called their riches a blessing from God. People soon discovered their extravagant lifestyle was financed from the almighty contributions of the ministry's faithful.
Soon their tears of joy became tears of remorse. In 1987 Bakker 'fessed up to an adulterous relationship with church secretary Jessica Hahn and later spent four years in jail for fraud.
Tammy Faye divorced her husband while he was in jail and married his business partner, Roe Messner. In March of 2004 she announced on "LARRY KING LIVE" she had inoperable lung cancer.
TAMMY FAYE MESSNER: It was lung cancer.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Eight months later she appeared again with an update on her condition.
MESSNER: Every bit of the cancer is gone.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Jim Bakker also remarried and is now back on TV, this time preaching from Branson, Missouri.
JIM BAKKER: It's so good to get together with God's people.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Jim and Lori Bakker are in the process of adopting five children between the ages of 9 and 15. They've had legal custody of them for four years. One big happy family, albeit a more modest one.
(END VIDEOTAPE)
(COMMERCIAL BREAK)
PHILLIPS: New outrage from the oldest profession. The world says "what the... ?" when an unemployed german IT worker gets an offer she just can't refuse.
HARRIS: OK. Here is the story, Kyra. It seems that when Germany legitimized prostitution, slapping income and payroll taxes on brothels, the brothels won the right to look for workers on the unemployment rolls just like any other business. And prospects who played too hard to get could stop getting unemployment checks.
PHILLIPS: Stories around the jobless. Women offered unsavory positions as nude models, phone sex workers, even prostitutes. But there is an upside so to speak. Sex workers get health insurance, old-age pensions and jobless benefits if and when they lose their jobs.
(STOCK MARKET REPORT) HARRIS: Well, next hour we're going to update the Hillary Rodham Clinton story, as you know, she was feeling a little weak and reported having a bit of a bug before speaking to the commerce committee in -- the Chamber of Commerce near Buffalo. And she needed a break to sit down, collect herself, but she collapsed. We will update that story next hour.
PHILLIPS: And the votes are being counted in Iraq, will they add up to a lesser role for the U.S. military then? Ahead on LIVE FROM, our Barbara Starr reports from the Pentagon on what the political future for Iraqis could mean for the future of America's sevicemen and -women overseas.
LIVE FROM's "hour of power" begins right after this.
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THIS IS A RUSH TRANSCRIPT. THIS COPY MAY NOT BE IN ITS FINAL FORM AND MAY BE UPDATED.
TONY HARRIS, CNN ANCHOR: Checking stories now in the news, a federal judge ruled some terror suspects at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba may challenge their confinement. The judge also says military tribunals for the detainees are not constitutional. The issue will likely go back before the courts on appeal.
If you felt a little heavier last month, it may not have been the eggnog. It could have been the extra cash in your wallet. Commerce Department reports personal income shot up a record 3.7 percent in December, just as Americans were going out to shop. A big Microsoft dividend contributed to the increase. The Vatican says Pope John Paul II is fighting the flu. This prompted him to cancel his meetings for the day. The 84-year-old pope looked relatively healthy at a youth peace event yesterday. We'll have a live report in the next hour.
And tonight's execution of a convicted serial killer is called off. Michael Ross was scheduled to die by lethal injection at 9:00 tonight. Connecticut officials delayed the execution for the second time in three days after his lawyer filed an appeal based on Ross' mental capacity.
KYRA PHILLIPS, CNN ANCHOR: Democrats won't waste any time responding to President Bush's State of the Union Address Wednesday. In fact, they've already started. The two top Democrats in Congress spoke to the National Press Club this morning. Representative Nancy Pelosi promised to oppose the president's Social Security plan. Senator Harry Reid called for more troops and an exit strategy in Iraq.
(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)
REP. NANCY PELOSI (D), MINORITY LEADER: In President Bush's administration we have seen a propensity to manufacture crises where none exist, and then turn to preordained ideas as solutions to them.
(END VIDEO CLIP)
(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)
SEN. HARRY REID (D), MINORITY LEADER: Yesterday's elections were a milestone. But on Wednesday night, the president needs to spell out a real and understandable plan for the unfinished work ahead.
(END VIDEO CLIP)
PHILLIPS: And you can tune in to CNN Wednesday for our special prime time coverage of the president's speech.
In Iraq, officials are tallying millions of votes that many hope will lead their country to a lasting democracy. It will be a long process.
CNN's Jane Arraf joins us live by videophone from the Baqubah area -- Jane.
JANE ARRAF, CNN CORRESPONDENT: An estimated 3,000 ballots that were filled out, votes that were cast here in this area are actually being counted here. We are just outside of Baqubah, where in this warehouse-type building, they have brought the plastic boxes with the ballots. And what you're seeing in front of you are the actual ballots that are taken out of these boxes and laboriously laid out and counted here by these election workers.
They've been here since yesterday. It's freezing cold here. They've had very little sleep, but this is a process that's expected to take a few days.
Now we have with us someone who is going to talk to us about the election, about security. His name is Lieutenant Assaf (ph), who is known otherwise by his American colleagues as Lieutenant Stormy (ph). Thanks very for much being with us.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Thank you.
ARRAF: Tell us, you yourself voted yesterday. What was that like?
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Actually, the election yesterday was very good. I vote for Ayad Allawi, because he did a good job for the Iraqi people, and the Iraq people did good job, too, in the election. And we work with the coalition forces in Baqubah about the security and everything, and we did good job.
ARRAF: Let's talk about security, let's talk about what it's like being an Iraqi police officer. Yesterday you were in Bacara (ph), just outside of Baqubah, where a lot of people couldn't vote. What happened there?
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Actually, the bad guys make trouble yesterday, but they failed, because the IPs defend the sides (ph) very well. Actually with the Kurdish forces, they defend for all the time (ph).
ARRAF: You're 26 years old. You just got married two months ago. What do you think is going to happen in the future for Iraq?
HARRIS: That was Jane Arraf, by videophone in Baqubah.
PHILLIPS: Well, did antidepression drugs drive a 12-year-old boy to shoot and kill his grandparents while they slept, then burn their house down?
CNN medical correspondent Elizabeth Cohen has the latest on day No. 1 of the boy's murder trial in Charleston, South Carolina -- Elizabeth.
ELIZABETH COHEN, CNN MEDICAL CORRESPONDENT: Well, the jury has just been sworn in, in the courthouse behind me. And central in this case will be what made this 12-year-old boy kill. Was it indeed the antidepressant Zoloft?
(BEGIN VIDEOTAPE)
COHEN (voice-over): Christopher Pittman was 12 when, by his own admission, he shot his grandparents to death as they slept, then used candles and lighter fluid to burn down the house.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: This kid waved to his grandparents, went to bed, went to sleep, came in and shot them in the face, in the mouth with a shotgun, as cold, brutal an act as I've witnessed in 25 years of prosecuting.
COHEN: After a troubled boyhood and a brief psychiatric stay near his home in Florida, Chris had gone to live with the grandparents in rural South Carolina. After a school fight, they talked about sending him back.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: The shotgun my son used was the first gun my dad ever bought me when I was a boy. I let him bring it back with him, and...
COHEN: Chris' father was at a loss.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Right now, I don't see my son. I don't see that light in his eyes. I see darkness.
COHEN: The family blames a popular antidepressant he was taking, Zoloft. It's never been approved for children with depression, yet is often prescribed. This defense lawyer wants to put Zoloft on trial.
ANDY VICKERY, DEFENSE LAWYER: It drove him out of his mind, it put him out of touch with reality. It made him hear voices.
COHEN: Pfizer, which makes Zoloft, denies any connection to the deaths. It says, there is no scientific evidence to suggest that Zoloft contributes to violent behavior in either adults or children.
Now 15, Chris Pittman goes on trial as an adult facing 30 years to life for murder. He gave this account of the shootings in a letter his father read at a Food and Drug Administration hearing a year ago.
JOE PITTMAN, FATHER: When I was lying in my bed that night, I couldn't sleep because my voice in my head kept echoing in my mind, telling me to kill them.
(END VIDEOTAPE)
COHEN: The FDA has found that there is a link between this type of antidepressant and suicidal thoughts in behaviors among children and teens. And for that reason, the FDA has warned doctors to watch for signs of hostile behavior and aggression among children and teens taking drugs like Zoloft. That warning came three years after the Pittman murders. The FDA has not found that type of link between antidepressants and violence towards others -- Kyra.
PHILLIPS: What about the prospective jurors in the use of the drugs, Elizabeth?
COHEN: Well, they did ask a group of 70 potential jurors, how many of you have friends or family who have taken Zoloft? And interesting (INAUDIBLE) stood up. So that's a pretty heavy percentage.
PHILLIPS: Elizabeth Cohen, live from the trial there. We'll continue to check in with you. Thank you so much.
Straight ahead on LIVE FROM, a woman refuses to take a job as a prostitute, and the government cuts her unemployment benefits. Our "What The" segment of the day is back.
But first, it's time to get beautified. Queer eye cutie -- how is that for a play on words?
Kyan, did you like that? Kyan Douglas in the house. That's right. Guess who gets to make over? No, it's not me or Tony, because we're already perfectly dressed, right?
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Perfect. Tony, I love your tie.
HARRIS: Thank you!
PHILLIPS: He hit it with the tie.
We're going to talk about Miles' blue shirts when we come back. Don't go away.
(COMMERCIAL BREAK)
PHILLIPS: Well, the premise is simple and successful. Five gay men making over the world, one straight guy at a time. Kyan Douglas is one of the fab five on TV's "Queer Eye for the Straight Guy." He's the grooming guru. He's also the author of this new book, "Beautified: Secrets for Women to Look Great and Feel Fabulous." That's because every guy in his life already looks good, so now he's helping all of us, the women.
Kyan Douglas is with us right now to talk about this book and just talk about life. Nice to have you with us.
KYAN DOUGLAS, "QUEER EYE FOR THE STRAIGHT GUY": Thank you for having me. You look gorgeous, I have to say.
PHILLIPS: No, you know what? $6.99 necklace. I know it's got to go. I know. Sorry.
DOUGLAS: It was working for me.
PHILLIPS: It was? DOUGLAS: It was totally working for me. Put it back on.
PHILLIPS: OK, it's back on. All right, don't tell anybody.
DOUGLAS: You didn't have to tell anyone that you paid that much.
PHILLIPS: OK. Now I just want Robert to get a shot of these cuffs. I mean, this is just hot. This is a part of the blue shirt, though. It's not two separate things.
DOUGLAS: It is. It's actually the cuff. And this is a beautiful Paul Smith shirt. And I love the detail in the cuff. I just decided to wear them out.
PHILLIPS: But this doesn't necessarily mean that cuff links are gone.
DOUGLAS: No, not at all. Cuff links are great.
PHILLIPS: All right, tell me about book.
DOUGLAS: Right, Tony?
PHILLIPS: Oh! Tony!
DOUGLAS: We already know that Kyan likes Tony's tie. So everybody take note.
HARRIS: All credit to my wife. I'm colorblind.
DOUGLAS: Good hair, good teeth, good tie.
PHILLIPS: Wow. Oh, man. They're totally bonding. OK, wait, this book is about women. Let's talk about...
DOUGLAS: I know, let's talk about the ladies.
PHILLIPS: ... beautiful women.
DOUGLAS: Let's talk about the ladies.
PHILLIPS: Why did you do it?
DOUGLAS: I had so many women coming up to me and saying thank you so much for helping my husband or helping my boyfriend. He's finally shaving the right way or not using hand soap on his face. Well, what about me and what about my hair? So I wanted to write a beauty book, but also a book that addressed beauty sort of in a larger context, that talked about beauty on the inside, as well as the outside.
PHILLIPS: No, I did notice that. It was actually a whole section on the spirit. I even said to our segment producer, I want to get into that. And it's not just because I just went to the Himalayas and I'm all into this omm, you know, spiritual.
DOUGLAS: There's nothing wrong with a little spiritual balance in life.
PHILLIPS: A little meditation.
DOUGLAS: Just a balance.
PHILLIPS: Exactly. Why do you think that is so important? Because people -- individuals are so consumed with what they look like, what they're wearing.
DOUGLAS: I'll tell you what. I was, you know, very much influenced by my grandmother, by my mother. Hi, Mom! Hi, Judy! My sister Kelly. And so I really learned growing up how important, you know, body issues can be to women. So I thought it was important to discuss beauty in a larger context, because it's just as important to look -- you know, look great, feel great, but also take care of yourself on the inside and be the best person you can be coming from the inside out.
PHILLIPS: Well, it's all about great energy, right?
DOUGLAS: It's all about great energy. I think beauty really does start from within. So that's what the book's about.
PHILLIPS: So what did grandma teach you?
DOUGLAS: My grandmother taught me -- I'll never forget it. She taught me to be true to myself. Obviously being a gay person, that's a very important thing to hold true, because, you know, if you can't count on yourself, you can't count on anyone, so.
PHILLIPS: That's a good -- I want to ask you about that. The show, how did the gay community react? How did the anti-gay community react? Was it tough for you to do this show and then go out in public? I can just imagine...
DOUGLAS: You know, I had a moment of hesitation when I was first cast, because the title was so -- you know, that word, queer, it was so intense.
PHILLIPS: That's a hard-core word.
DOUGLAS: You know what? I think when people understand the context of the show, they really get that it's a light, fun, you know, well-intentioned show, not to be taken too seriously. I think it's been accepted by the gay community and by straight people for that reason.
PHILLIPS: Well, what's great, too, I noticed that it's not very intimidating, I would think, for a straight man. Because you've got Carson, who's very flamboyant, OK? And then there's you, a little more subtle.
DOUGLAS: And then Ted, who plays it straight.
PHILLIPS: Like he's got the macho thing going on. So was that -- do you think that's why it did so well? DOUGLAS: You know what, I think the reason the show has done has so well is because it basically -- it's a show about people helping people. And that is a universal thing. We live in a crazy world with, you know, tsunamis happening and elections going crazy in Iraq and things like that. We all sort of really relate to the positive element of the show. It really is a show about people helping people. And that just is -- it is what it is.
PHILLIPS: Now has this -- you said you hesitated a little bit when you were cast for this. Have you gotten more involved in the gay community? Do you feel more comfortable about that part of your life?
DOUGLAS: I think that I've taken the opportunity to be as positive a person as I can be, positive role model as I can be. But I've always been sort of active in the gay community and have always gathered my strength from the gay community.
PHILLIPS: Did this break a lot of stereotypes, you think, when this show came out?
DOUGLAS: You know what, I had someone tell me the other day that -- I don't know that it breaks stereotypes, but I think it allows people to see certain stereotypes that are often frozen in a moment played out over the course of a show. And people realize, so what if he's a little flamboyant? There's nothing wrong with that, there's nothing to be afraid of or nothing to worry about.
PHILLIPS: Any of the guys that you did the makeover on, did any of them reach a point where they just -- OK, I can't take this anymore. I'm freaking out.
DOUGLAS: You know what, there was -- there's a guy coming up in this season. We just started our new season, we're in the middle of it now. A few shows into it. And there was one guy, he was a little taken aback by Carson and a little taken aback by Tom. And you'll see when that airs how that played out during the course of the show. Very interesting.
PHILLIPS: Interesting.
DOUGLAS: Yes.
PHILLIPS: Are the guys carefully selected? Or -- OK, they are.
DOUGLAS: They are. There is a sort of a branch of the show, producers that go out and find the right guy, because they want to find a guy that needs a makeover, that has an interesting story, that isn't an axe murderer or whatever. And it's going to be fun. You know, because at the end of the day...
PHILLIPS: They've got to be able to play ball.
DOUGLAS: They've got to be able to play ball. So, yes.
PHILLIPS: OK. I need some help with my co-anchor.
DOUGLAS: Yes.
PHILLIPS: And, of course, we picked -- now I'm not talking about Tony, because Tony is the best-dressed man on CNN. You've already made that point. He's got the tie, the suit.
DOUGLAS: He's the total package.
PHILLIPS: We're talking Miles O'Brien.
DOUGLAS: OK, Miles.
PHILLIPS: He's our space geek. You know? But he doesn't like to think of himself as a geek.
DOUGLAS: But he's not a bad looking guy.
PHILLIPS: No.
DOUGLAS: He's handsome. I think he's handsome.
PHILLIPS: All right. Let's take a look at him here.
HARRIS: Miles! Miles!
PHILLIPS: No. We're going to hold on this. So you think he's handsome guy?
DOUGLAS: I think he's handsome guy.
PHILLIPS: I agree. I think he's a cutie pie. Now, what do we need to work on here? Can I just ask -- OK, go ahead. First reaction.
DOUGLAS: Well, you told me about the shirt.
PHILLIPS: OK. We had a boss, who said, Miles, blue shirts. It's all about the blue shirts. I am not kidding you. He has always to this day -- for almost a year now, only blue shirts.
DOUGLAS: Every day, blue shirts?
PHILLIPS: He only wears blue shirts.
DOUGLAS: That is the funniest thing about guys in general, especially straight guys. They hear one little piece of positive information and they hold to it so literally. There's nothing wrong with a blue shirt. But you don't have to wear one every day.
PHILLIPS: What color should he wear?
DOUGLAS: Probably white, since he's a news anchor. Blue. A light pale pink, maybe, would look great. Possibly a yellow. But blue's great, too. Just not every day.
PHILLIPS: What do you think of the hair?
DOUGLAS: I think the hair is good. I think it could possibly be a little thinner and a little tighter.
PHILLIPS: Piecier, maybe?
DOUGLAS: Might be a little, sort of, puffy right now.
PHILLIPS: What about the eyebrows? Does he have kind of that unibrow thing going on?
DOUGLAS: You know what, I can't see. From this picture, it looks OK.
PHILLIPS: OK.
HARRIS: A unibrow!
PHILLIPS: Well, I told him to pluck it. But I'm not going to say that out loud.
DOUGLAS: Does he have a little unibrow?
PHILLIPS: He has a little unibrow thing going on. And every now and then, the nose hair, you know...
DOUGLAS: The nose hair is the worst. Can't do that.
PHILLIPS: Oh, shoot. I'm getting the wrap. I guess I'm in trouble. OK. Well now that we know Miles is a handsome guy, according to you, and you are the grooming guru, here is the book, once again. "Get Beautified." Oh, good, we got a perfect graphic. Look at that. I don't even have to pull the book up. Come back and visit us.
DOUGLAS: Thank you so much. This was so fun.
PHILLIPS: It was a blast. Thank you.
DOUGLAS: Thanks, Tony.
HARRIS: Oh, shoot.
PHILLIPS: All right. We know he's OK. Will you come through my closet?
DOUGLAS: I will be happy to.
PHILLIPS: 3:30 this afternoon?
DOUGLAS: Go through your beauty products, absolutely.
PHILLIPS: Love it. All right, more LIVE FROM right after this.
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HARRIS: Jim and Tammy Faye Bakker, names synonymous with the PTL and Heritage USA, the televangelists created an empire using millions of donations from their followers but eventually fell from grace. As part of CNN's anniversary series "Then & Now," we take a look back and Jim and Tammy Faye Bakker and where they are today.
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UNIDENTIFIED MALE (voice-over): In the early 1980s, Jim and Tammy Faye Bakker became pop icons as leaders of the hugely successful PTL Club TV ministries. The couple called their riches a blessing from God. People soon discovered their extravagant lifestyle was financed from the almighty contributions of the ministry's faithful.
Soon their tears of joy became tears of remorse. In 1987 Bakker 'fessed up to an adulterous relationship with church secretary Jessica Hahn and later spent four years in jail for fraud.
Tammy Faye divorced her husband while he was in jail and married his business partner, Roe Messner. In March of 2004 she announced on "LARRY KING LIVE" she had inoperable lung cancer.
TAMMY FAYE MESSNER: It was lung cancer.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Eight months later she appeared again with an update on her condition.
MESSNER: Every bit of the cancer is gone.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Jim Bakker also remarried and is now back on TV, this time preaching from Branson, Missouri.
JIM BAKKER: It's so good to get together with God's people.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Jim and Lori Bakker are in the process of adopting five children between the ages of 9 and 15. They've had legal custody of them for four years. One big happy family, albeit a more modest one.
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PHILLIPS: New outrage from the oldest profession. The world says "what the... ?" when an unemployed german IT worker gets an offer she just can't refuse.
HARRIS: OK. Here is the story, Kyra. It seems that when Germany legitimized prostitution, slapping income and payroll taxes on brothels, the brothels won the right to look for workers on the unemployment rolls just like any other business. And prospects who played too hard to get could stop getting unemployment checks.
PHILLIPS: Stories around the jobless. Women offered unsavory positions as nude models, phone sex workers, even prostitutes. But there is an upside so to speak. Sex workers get health insurance, old-age pensions and jobless benefits if and when they lose their jobs.
(STOCK MARKET REPORT) HARRIS: Well, next hour we're going to update the Hillary Rodham Clinton story, as you know, she was feeling a little weak and reported having a bit of a bug before speaking to the commerce committee in -- the Chamber of Commerce near Buffalo. And she needed a break to sit down, collect herself, but she collapsed. We will update that story next hour.
PHILLIPS: And the votes are being counted in Iraq, will they add up to a lesser role for the U.S. military then? Ahead on LIVE FROM, our Barbara Starr reports from the Pentagon on what the political future for Iraqis could mean for the future of America's sevicemen and -women overseas.
LIVE FROM's "hour of power" begins right after this.
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