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Father a Person of Interest in Stabbing of Two Girls; Courthouse Shooting Suspect Arraignment Delayed; Russian Arrested for Forging Law Enforcement Badges; Four Vietnam Dead Brought Home for Burial; Dieticians Say Add Veggies to Low Fat Diets

Aired May 10, 2005 - 15:00   ET

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BETTY NGUYEN, CO-HOST: The Georgian capital was their last stop on a five-day, four-nation tour marking the end of the World War II -- World War II in Europe. Mr. Bush praised Georgians for their contributions to freedom.
MILES O'BRIEN, CO-HOST: Person of interest, yes. Filing of charges, no. At least not yet. A day after two little girls in Zion, Illinois, were found stabbed to death in a park, police say one girl's father, the person who found the bodies, is a person of interest whom they've questioned at some length now.

We get an update from CNN's Chris Lawrence -- Chris.

CHRIS LAWRENCE, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Yes, Miles. What we're waiting for right now is some sort of confirmation. Eventually, what people are waiting to see is that someone is officially charged with these very brutal crimes.

And when you talk about some these terms that are thrown about, a suspect, person of interest, who they're looking at, you're talking about a lot of terms. But people at home, a lot of the parents here want to know, do police think they know who did it? That's the question they really want answered. You can take all these terms and put them aside, because that's the question the parents here really want answered.

And it seems to be moving in a way in which the parents may get that answer very, very soon. Again, you've got two little girls, second-graders, best friends, Krystal Tobias and her best friend. They were missing, reported missing on Sunday night. And from what we know, Laura Hobbs' family and Krystal Tobias' family both called in and said, "Hey, our daughters were supposed to be home around 7 p.m. tonight. They didn't show up."

Well, by the next morning, 6 a.m. in the morning, a man walking in a wooded area of a park, very close to where the girls both lived and went to school, found the bodies of the little girls.

The coroner has reported that the girls were stabbed multiple times. And that sent this community into just absolute shock. It changed the way parents did everything. They walked their children right up to the front door of the school. A lot of parents kept their kids home. And the school has spent most of the day trying to talk to these very young children about a very gruesome death and trying to wrestle with how to explain that to them. At the same time, the police have been working to try to move this case along, and to make parents feel a little safer in their community today -- Miles.

O'BRIEN: Chris Lawrence, thank you very much.

Now, onto the Brian Nichols' story. Nichols returned to court here in Atlanta today on charges connected to his alleged rein of terror that began with the infamous courthouse killings. The hearing is now over. The arraignment is set for next week.

Standing by with the story, CNN's Tony Harris -- Tony.

TONY HARRIS, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Good afternoon, Miles.

A lot of this was housekeeping for Judge Fuller today as he was trying desperately to get his court calendar in some kind of order. He became frustrated of that throughout the course of the afternoon. It's going to be difficult for him for a number of reasons.

Case in point, we expected Brian Nichols to be arraigned this afternoon. That didn't happen. The prosecution was ready. The defense needed more time. Remember, we're dealing with public defenders here, and they are juggling a number of cases.

Then there was the moment, Miles, near the very end of the hearing when Mr. Paul Howard, the district attorney of Fulton County, decided he wanted to send a very clear message to Mr. Brian Nichols of the state's intentions to seek the death penalty in this case. Take a look at this moment.

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Your honor, I would like to say the defendant rests (ph).

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Your honor, that's inappropriate.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Just hand it -- hand it to his lawyer.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: All right.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

HARRIS: OK. Expect to see that moment again next month during a hearing on a defense motion to have the Fulton County district attorney's office recused, disqualified from trying this case altogether.

A couple of quick housekeeping notes for you, Miles. Members of Nichols' family in court today. Members of one of the victim's families also in court. And there was a lot of security, mostly of the plainclothes variety -- Miles.

O'BRIEN: Tony, I know the judge is from outside of the courthouse.

HARRIS: DeKalb County.

O'BRIEN: It's kind of unusual to hear a request to have the prosecution team be removed from the case, isn't it?

HARRIS: Yes, it is. But understand the circumstances here. There were three victims, three of the four victims of Brian Nichols' alleged rampage on March the 11th are employees of Fulton County. Remember that everyone inside that court building, who works in that court building, is also an employee of Fulton County. So this is very personal for this D.A.'s office and there was evidence of that as you saw in the courtroom this afternoon.

O'BRIEN: All right. Tony Harris watching it for us, thank you very much -- Betty.

NGUYEN: News across America now.

From bride-to-be to MIA to in-patient. Georgia's infamous runaway bride, Jennifer Wilbanks, has checked herself into a facility to deal with, quote, "physical and mental issues," according to a statement by her church. Wilbanks has been in seclusion since returning from New Mexico. She bolted just days before her wedding.

The manager of Neverland is back on the stand in Michael Jackson's child molestation trial. Joe Marcus testified he was never ordered to hold the accuser's family against their will. Marcus said orders not to let the boy and his brother leave the ranch were meant to keep the children from driving vehicles onto the open road.

And a landmark church burns in suburban Philadelphia. This is the First Baptist Church in Montgomery County. No one was hurt in this morning's spectacular fire. Officials say a roofer's torch may have sparked that blaze.

O'BRIEN: A developing story for you out of New York. The arrest of a man on charges of trafficking fake I.D.s designed to look exactly like law enforcement badges. It's part our "Security Watch" this hour. With the story, we go live now CNN's Deborah Feyerick -- Deb.

DEBORAH FEYERICK, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Miles, for federal officials, it is a really big fear right now, the possibility that wannabe terrorists actually bought some of these phony badges, intending to pose as real agents.

U.S. marshals yesterday seizing some 1,300 badges representing 35 different law enforcement agencies. And you name it: there's the FBI, drug enforcement, Secret Service, customs, even the NYPD.

The head of immigration and customs enforcement here in New York calls these counterfeits very, very good.

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

MARTIN FICKE, CUSTOMS AGENT IN CHARGE: Here you have clearly over 1,300 very good counterfeit badges representing over 35 law enforcement agencies, federal, state, and local. And for someone to have that in their possession and to be able to utilize that to identify themselves as a law enforcement officer could be devastating when it comes to a situation like homeland security, of course, where we're trying to control access to various things and the authority of various people to have access to those particular locations.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

FEYERICK: Now, the feds arrested Sergio Khorosh. He is a Russian, but living here in the U.S. as a permanent resident. The badges were shipped from Taiwan, China, to his Bronx apartment.

It was an alert customs official who noticed that these badges were coming in. She notified people here in New York. They then went to his home. He did not put up a struggle. They also found guns along with drugs, as well.

His lawyer maintains that he has done nothing wrong, that selling these badges is not illegal. But right now, Khorosh is being held on $50,000 bond. He is waiting to meet the conditions of a potential release.

But right now federal officials trying to go through computers to see who may have bought these badges and why they wanted them in the first place -- Miles.

O'BRIEN: So, Deb, we don't know how many of those badges might have been sold?

FEYERICK: We don't. But U.S. marshals tell us that, in fact, there were a couple of FedEx packages ready to be sent out. So those badges were in play.

O'BRIEN: OK. And so far as we know, there were no photo I.D.'s associated with this. It was just the badges, right?

FEYERICK: Just the badges, just the badges. And so they want to know whether in fact this guy was doing any sort of criminal activity. But again, they're just afraid that these got into the wrong hands somehow.

O'BRIEN: All right. Deborah Feyerick, thank you very much.

Firewall, what firewall? A mysterious hacker manages to raise security hackles all around the world. The hacker calls himself Stakkato. It's very likely he's a teenaged boy living in Sweden doing this all in his P.J.'s.

He reportedly hacked into the Cisco computer router system a year ago. That was a key move. Infiltrated a number of U.S. military research sites, having harvested passwords from that first site, including NASA's Jet Propulsion Lab in Pasadena, California.

The FBI is on the case but says it's not clear if U.S. authorities can actually prosecute. Officials at some of the affected facilities confirm to "The New York Times" their computers have been breached. But they say the information obtained was, in fact, insignificant.

CNN committed to providing you the best security news. Stay tuned to us day and night for more.

Their lives ended in a jungle in Southeast Asia.

NGUYEN: Today, a memorial finally gives their family the chance for closure. LIVE FROM remembers four fallen heroes after this.

(COMMERCIAL BREAK)

NGUYEN: Nearly four decades after they gave their lives in the Vietnam War, four U.S. servicemen are being honored today at Arlington National Cemetery.

CNN's Kimberly Osias joins us from Washington with more on this -- Kimberly.

KIMBERLY OSIAS, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Well, Betty, the families of war dead say grief is a long process. You really never achieve closure, but you can learn to move on.

(BEGIN VIDEOTAPE)

OSIAS (voice-over): Against a clear spring sky, the Marine honor guard fired the volleys, lifting flag-draped caskets up high, honoring four fallen comrades, servicemen who gave the ultimate sacrifice.

They came from Florida, California, New York and Wisconsin, sharing a common love for country. Marine Lance Corporal Samuel Sharp Jr., Marine Sergeant James Neil Tyez, Marine Second Lieutenant Heinz Ahlmeyer Jr., and Navy Petty Officer Malcolm Miller.

(END VIDEOTAPE)

They were all part of Team Breaker, a reconnaissance patrol in North Vietnam. The men came under enemy fire in a remote jungle area near the border with Laos, all four shot and killed on Hill 665.

Although family members knew their loved ones were dead, they had no bodies to bury for decades. Fellow Marines paid respects today, as well.

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

CORPORAL RON ZACZEK, U.S. MARINE CORPS: The Marine Corps is like a religion, and it's like a religion because our motto is semper fidelis, always faithful. We don't forget, and that's basically why all of us are here, because a lot of people just wouldn't forget.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

OSIAS: This is all part of a joint effort by U.S. and Vietnamese teams to recover servicemen missing for so long, a tedious task played out in remote areas for those who bring these soldiers home.

One of the four, Lance Corporal Sharp, was honored in today's ceremony but was buried last month in his hometown of San Jose, California -- Betty.

NGUYEN: A very important day for the families involved. Thank you for that.

OSIAS: Indeed it is.

NGUYEN: Miles.

O'BRIEN: All right, we have been covering a breaking story here. Comes out of Pine Meadow, California, in Riverside County, well east of Los Angeles.

Police have responded there, the Riverside County Sheriff's Office specifically. You see some live pictures now from our affiliate KCAL, a helicopter hovering overhead. Here's what we know right now.

A news conference a while ago, Sheriff Bob Doyle telling reporters that two units responded to the home. Kind of a sprawling ranch house there. Maybe we'll see it in a moment in a wider shot.

And there was no noise heard on a phone call, just a noise or an odd 911 call. And police responded, and what they found there was rather shocking: six bodies, three of them adults, three of them children.

The home is owned by David McGowan, an investigator in the Riverside County district attorney's office.

So just to recap for you, six people dead inside this remote ranch house in Riverside County, California. Police obviously on the scene, conducting a rather extensive crime scene investigation. Three adults, three children dead. The home owned by a district attorney's investigator by the name of David McGowan.

We are watching the story very closely for you. And we'll be back with more LIVE FROM in just a moment.

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NGUYEN: So, are you trying to lower your cholesterol? It is no secret, a low-fat diet can help. But it also turns out that not all low-fat diet are created equal. CNN's Dr. Sanjay Gupta has more on why you should eat more of the right foods.

(BEGIN VIDEOTAPE)

SANJAY GUPTA, CNN MEDICAL CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): How's this for a piece of advice: if you want to lower your cholesterol, eat more? Yep, go ahead.

Researchers from Stanford have found that if you switch your diet to more plant-derived foods, you'll be getting a blend of good cholesterol-lowering chemicals, and the more of these chemicals, the better the effect.

(on camera) Well, I really like specifics, so I decided to put this to the test in my own kitchen. You remember, in the mid-'90s, the focus was on a low-fat diet, according to the American Heart Association. So this is what a meal would look like.

For example, for breakfast, a plain bagel, one tablespoon of jelly, three tablespoons of cream cheese. You get a cup of coffee. You get eight ounces of grape juice in the morning, as well.

For lunch, a turkey baloney sandwich with tomato, as well, a cup and a half of potato chips and a caffeine-free diet Coke.

If you wanted snacks throughout the day, you got a couple of Snackwell cookies. Remember those?

For dinner, you got two cups of potato chicken casserole. You also got eight ounces of apple juice.

Now, that was going to be your traditional low fat diet of the mid-'90s. By the time 2000 rolled around, there was much more of a focus not only on low fat, but also lowering your cholesterol.

The first thing you'll notice here, there's a lot more food. First of all, for breakfast you get two cups of whole grain oatmeal, get some raisins sprinkled on top, half a cup of blueberries, some green tea, as well, 10 ounces of soy milk.

For lunch, a soy burger with a little cheddar cheese, an egg, one egg, and some confetti slaw. Also eight ounces of carrot juice.

Now if you want snacks throughout the day on this diet, you get a half a cup of seedless grapes, seven pieces of licorice and again, some more sun-dried raisins.

Now, for dinner, big meal here, two cups of garbanzo beans. This is with tomato sauce. A cup and a half of whole grains, two cups of essential salad, more green tea and for dessert, one whole grain fudge cookie.

The big focus here, what they were trying to figure out is which diet would actually lower your cholesterol further.

(voice-over) They found simply that those who ate the diet with more plant products did better. Specifically, those on a regular low- fat diet saw their cholesterol levels drop nearly five percent. But those on the plant-based low-fat diet saw their bad cholesterol drop nearly twice as much, down 9.4 percent.

Now, in full disclosure, neither diet caused much weight loss or weight gain in the long term. But the evidence is clear. With certain foods, you can eat as much as you want and still lower your cholesterol.

Dr. Sanjay Gupta, CNN, reporting.

(END VIDEOTAPE)

NGUYEN: All right, Miles is hot on the trail in this confetti slaw, because we both looked at each other and went, what is that?

O'BRIEN: Paper. It must be paper. And therefore, a low-fat alternative to something good to eat.

NGUYEN: It looks like coleslaw to me.

O'BRIEN: Yes. That and the soy milk just make it all yummy, and of course, if you found a finger in there, then...

NGUYEN: Back to the finger, still, huh, Miles?

O'BRIEN: Talk about low fat.

NGUYEN: Look, there's Susan.

O'BRIEN: We're not talking about that anymore. Poor Susan.

NGUYEN: We're talking about music clubs, though, today, Susan.

O'BRIEN: Who joins those clubs any more in the era of downloading music, anyway?

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SUSAN LISOVICZ, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Miles, go get your free Frosty!

O'BRIEN: I'm away.

NGUYEN: With a side of confetti slaw, of course.

O'BRIEN: All right. Thank you, Susan.

That's a confused diet right there. Checking news around the world right now.

All's quiet in an Australian prison, thanks to the pizza delivery guy. Up to 20 inmates seized control of the maximum security Risdon Prison, Tasmania, on Saturday. The siege ended yesterday after the convicts released a captured guard. In exchange for? A pizza!

An update on the story of the baby girl saved by a stray dog in Kenya. This is a LIVE FROM favorite story. Yesterday we told you how the dog dragged the abandon newborn across a busy street, through the barbed wire, to a shed sheltering her own pup. The dingo took the baby!

Anyway, today hospital officials report the publicity has brought out a flood of people who'd like to adopt the baby. She's cute as a button, isn't she? Unfortunately, the puppy died.

NGUYEN: Oh!

O'BRIEN: Barrow, Alaska. Here comes the sun, baby. The sun set briefly this morning for the last time until August 2. These pictures we took when we were up there on the story, of all things, about global warming in November. It was just before sun set. So they had about three hours.

NGUYEN: A whole three hours.

O'BRIEN: Excuse me, three months.

NGUYEN: OK! A little different.

O'BRIEN: Of a darkened sky. But if you're drinking the right stuff, it seems like three hours.

NGUYEN: Like three hours.

O'BRIEN: OK. All right.

NGUYEN: Judy Woodruff, you can bail us out here?

JUDY WOODRUFF, HOST, "INSIDE POLITICS": Oh, my goodness. I learn so much from you guys. Thank you.

O'BRIEN: Here to serve.

WOODRUFF: All right, Betty and Miles, thank you both.

Well, the filibuster fight rages on in the Senate. Our Bill Schneider joins us to look at what the debate is really all about, the Supreme Court.

Plus, the finance director for Senator Hillary Clinton's 2000 Senate campaign goes on trial today in Los Angeles. I'll have details on the case and how it may or may not affect Senator Clinton's political ambitions.

"INSIDE POLITICS" begins in just a moment.

(COMMERCIAL BREAK)

NGUYEN: Betty Nguyen, checking the stories now in the news.

A gruesome find near Los Angeles. The bodies of three children and three adults were discovered in a house in Riverside County early today. The sheriff says all suffered head trauma. The home is owned by an investigator in the district attorney's office. We will have more on this story as it becomes available.

Police have questioned, a quote, "person of interest" in the deaths of two young girls in Illinois. It's the father of one of the girls. The "Chicago Tribune" reports police plan to charge a suspect sometime today. Now the best friends were found stabbed to death in a park. We want to show you some new video into CNN this afternoon of the U.S. military offensive against insurgents in western Iraq. Check it out. At least 100 militants and three Marines have been killed since "Operation Matador" began Saturday night.

Now, we want to take you to Judy Woodruff and "INSIDE POLITICS."

Hi, Judy.

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Aired May 10, 2005 - 15:00   ET
THIS IS A RUSH TRANSCRIPT. THIS COPY MAY NOT BE IN ITS FINAL FORM AND MAY BE UPDATED.
BETTY NGUYEN, CO-HOST: The Georgian capital was their last stop on a five-day, four-nation tour marking the end of the World War II -- World War II in Europe. Mr. Bush praised Georgians for their contributions to freedom.
MILES O'BRIEN, CO-HOST: Person of interest, yes. Filing of charges, no. At least not yet. A day after two little girls in Zion, Illinois, were found stabbed to death in a park, police say one girl's father, the person who found the bodies, is a person of interest whom they've questioned at some length now.

We get an update from CNN's Chris Lawrence -- Chris.

CHRIS LAWRENCE, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Yes, Miles. What we're waiting for right now is some sort of confirmation. Eventually, what people are waiting to see is that someone is officially charged with these very brutal crimes.

And when you talk about some these terms that are thrown about, a suspect, person of interest, who they're looking at, you're talking about a lot of terms. But people at home, a lot of the parents here want to know, do police think they know who did it? That's the question they really want answered. You can take all these terms and put them aside, because that's the question the parents here really want answered.

And it seems to be moving in a way in which the parents may get that answer very, very soon. Again, you've got two little girls, second-graders, best friends, Krystal Tobias and her best friend. They were missing, reported missing on Sunday night. And from what we know, Laura Hobbs' family and Krystal Tobias' family both called in and said, "Hey, our daughters were supposed to be home around 7 p.m. tonight. They didn't show up."

Well, by the next morning, 6 a.m. in the morning, a man walking in a wooded area of a park, very close to where the girls both lived and went to school, found the bodies of the little girls.

The coroner has reported that the girls were stabbed multiple times. And that sent this community into just absolute shock. It changed the way parents did everything. They walked their children right up to the front door of the school. A lot of parents kept their kids home. And the school has spent most of the day trying to talk to these very young children about a very gruesome death and trying to wrestle with how to explain that to them. At the same time, the police have been working to try to move this case along, and to make parents feel a little safer in their community today -- Miles.

O'BRIEN: Chris Lawrence, thank you very much.

Now, onto the Brian Nichols' story. Nichols returned to court here in Atlanta today on charges connected to his alleged rein of terror that began with the infamous courthouse killings. The hearing is now over. The arraignment is set for next week.

Standing by with the story, CNN's Tony Harris -- Tony.

TONY HARRIS, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Good afternoon, Miles.

A lot of this was housekeeping for Judge Fuller today as he was trying desperately to get his court calendar in some kind of order. He became frustrated of that throughout the course of the afternoon. It's going to be difficult for him for a number of reasons.

Case in point, we expected Brian Nichols to be arraigned this afternoon. That didn't happen. The prosecution was ready. The defense needed more time. Remember, we're dealing with public defenders here, and they are juggling a number of cases.

Then there was the moment, Miles, near the very end of the hearing when Mr. Paul Howard, the district attorney of Fulton County, decided he wanted to send a very clear message to Mr. Brian Nichols of the state's intentions to seek the death penalty in this case. Take a look at this moment.

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Your honor, I would like to say the defendant rests (ph).

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Your honor, that's inappropriate.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Just hand it -- hand it to his lawyer.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: All right.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

HARRIS: OK. Expect to see that moment again next month during a hearing on a defense motion to have the Fulton County district attorney's office recused, disqualified from trying this case altogether.

A couple of quick housekeeping notes for you, Miles. Members of Nichols' family in court today. Members of one of the victim's families also in court. And there was a lot of security, mostly of the plainclothes variety -- Miles.

O'BRIEN: Tony, I know the judge is from outside of the courthouse.

HARRIS: DeKalb County.

O'BRIEN: It's kind of unusual to hear a request to have the prosecution team be removed from the case, isn't it?

HARRIS: Yes, it is. But understand the circumstances here. There were three victims, three of the four victims of Brian Nichols' alleged rampage on March the 11th are employees of Fulton County. Remember that everyone inside that court building, who works in that court building, is also an employee of Fulton County. So this is very personal for this D.A.'s office and there was evidence of that as you saw in the courtroom this afternoon.

O'BRIEN: All right. Tony Harris watching it for us, thank you very much -- Betty.

NGUYEN: News across America now.

From bride-to-be to MIA to in-patient. Georgia's infamous runaway bride, Jennifer Wilbanks, has checked herself into a facility to deal with, quote, "physical and mental issues," according to a statement by her church. Wilbanks has been in seclusion since returning from New Mexico. She bolted just days before her wedding.

The manager of Neverland is back on the stand in Michael Jackson's child molestation trial. Joe Marcus testified he was never ordered to hold the accuser's family against their will. Marcus said orders not to let the boy and his brother leave the ranch were meant to keep the children from driving vehicles onto the open road.

And a landmark church burns in suburban Philadelphia. This is the First Baptist Church in Montgomery County. No one was hurt in this morning's spectacular fire. Officials say a roofer's torch may have sparked that blaze.

O'BRIEN: A developing story for you out of New York. The arrest of a man on charges of trafficking fake I.D.s designed to look exactly like law enforcement badges. It's part our "Security Watch" this hour. With the story, we go live now CNN's Deborah Feyerick -- Deb.

DEBORAH FEYERICK, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Miles, for federal officials, it is a really big fear right now, the possibility that wannabe terrorists actually bought some of these phony badges, intending to pose as real agents.

U.S. marshals yesterday seizing some 1,300 badges representing 35 different law enforcement agencies. And you name it: there's the FBI, drug enforcement, Secret Service, customs, even the NYPD.

The head of immigration and customs enforcement here in New York calls these counterfeits very, very good.

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

MARTIN FICKE, CUSTOMS AGENT IN CHARGE: Here you have clearly over 1,300 very good counterfeit badges representing over 35 law enforcement agencies, federal, state, and local. And for someone to have that in their possession and to be able to utilize that to identify themselves as a law enforcement officer could be devastating when it comes to a situation like homeland security, of course, where we're trying to control access to various things and the authority of various people to have access to those particular locations.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

FEYERICK: Now, the feds arrested Sergio Khorosh. He is a Russian, but living here in the U.S. as a permanent resident. The badges were shipped from Taiwan, China, to his Bronx apartment.

It was an alert customs official who noticed that these badges were coming in. She notified people here in New York. They then went to his home. He did not put up a struggle. They also found guns along with drugs, as well.

His lawyer maintains that he has done nothing wrong, that selling these badges is not illegal. But right now, Khorosh is being held on $50,000 bond. He is waiting to meet the conditions of a potential release.

But right now federal officials trying to go through computers to see who may have bought these badges and why they wanted them in the first place -- Miles.

O'BRIEN: So, Deb, we don't know how many of those badges might have been sold?

FEYERICK: We don't. But U.S. marshals tell us that, in fact, there were a couple of FedEx packages ready to be sent out. So those badges were in play.

O'BRIEN: OK. And so far as we know, there were no photo I.D.'s associated with this. It was just the badges, right?

FEYERICK: Just the badges, just the badges. And so they want to know whether in fact this guy was doing any sort of criminal activity. But again, they're just afraid that these got into the wrong hands somehow.

O'BRIEN: All right. Deborah Feyerick, thank you very much.

Firewall, what firewall? A mysterious hacker manages to raise security hackles all around the world. The hacker calls himself Stakkato. It's very likely he's a teenaged boy living in Sweden doing this all in his P.J.'s.

He reportedly hacked into the Cisco computer router system a year ago. That was a key move. Infiltrated a number of U.S. military research sites, having harvested passwords from that first site, including NASA's Jet Propulsion Lab in Pasadena, California.

The FBI is on the case but says it's not clear if U.S. authorities can actually prosecute. Officials at some of the affected facilities confirm to "The New York Times" their computers have been breached. But they say the information obtained was, in fact, insignificant.

CNN committed to providing you the best security news. Stay tuned to us day and night for more.

Their lives ended in a jungle in Southeast Asia.

NGUYEN: Today, a memorial finally gives their family the chance for closure. LIVE FROM remembers four fallen heroes after this.

(COMMERCIAL BREAK)

NGUYEN: Nearly four decades after they gave their lives in the Vietnam War, four U.S. servicemen are being honored today at Arlington National Cemetery.

CNN's Kimberly Osias joins us from Washington with more on this -- Kimberly.

KIMBERLY OSIAS, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Well, Betty, the families of war dead say grief is a long process. You really never achieve closure, but you can learn to move on.

(BEGIN VIDEOTAPE)

OSIAS (voice-over): Against a clear spring sky, the Marine honor guard fired the volleys, lifting flag-draped caskets up high, honoring four fallen comrades, servicemen who gave the ultimate sacrifice.

They came from Florida, California, New York and Wisconsin, sharing a common love for country. Marine Lance Corporal Samuel Sharp Jr., Marine Sergeant James Neil Tyez, Marine Second Lieutenant Heinz Ahlmeyer Jr., and Navy Petty Officer Malcolm Miller.

(END VIDEOTAPE)

They were all part of Team Breaker, a reconnaissance patrol in North Vietnam. The men came under enemy fire in a remote jungle area near the border with Laos, all four shot and killed on Hill 665.

Although family members knew their loved ones were dead, they had no bodies to bury for decades. Fellow Marines paid respects today, as well.

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

CORPORAL RON ZACZEK, U.S. MARINE CORPS: The Marine Corps is like a religion, and it's like a religion because our motto is semper fidelis, always faithful. We don't forget, and that's basically why all of us are here, because a lot of people just wouldn't forget.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

OSIAS: This is all part of a joint effort by U.S. and Vietnamese teams to recover servicemen missing for so long, a tedious task played out in remote areas for those who bring these soldiers home.

One of the four, Lance Corporal Sharp, was honored in today's ceremony but was buried last month in his hometown of San Jose, California -- Betty.

NGUYEN: A very important day for the families involved. Thank you for that.

OSIAS: Indeed it is.

NGUYEN: Miles.

O'BRIEN: All right, we have been covering a breaking story here. Comes out of Pine Meadow, California, in Riverside County, well east of Los Angeles.

Police have responded there, the Riverside County Sheriff's Office specifically. You see some live pictures now from our affiliate KCAL, a helicopter hovering overhead. Here's what we know right now.

A news conference a while ago, Sheriff Bob Doyle telling reporters that two units responded to the home. Kind of a sprawling ranch house there. Maybe we'll see it in a moment in a wider shot.

And there was no noise heard on a phone call, just a noise or an odd 911 call. And police responded, and what they found there was rather shocking: six bodies, three of them adults, three of them children.

The home is owned by David McGowan, an investigator in the Riverside County district attorney's office.

So just to recap for you, six people dead inside this remote ranch house in Riverside County, California. Police obviously on the scene, conducting a rather extensive crime scene investigation. Three adults, three children dead. The home owned by a district attorney's investigator by the name of David McGowan.

We are watching the story very closely for you. And we'll be back with more LIVE FROM in just a moment.

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NGUYEN: So, are you trying to lower your cholesterol? It is no secret, a low-fat diet can help. But it also turns out that not all low-fat diet are created equal. CNN's Dr. Sanjay Gupta has more on why you should eat more of the right foods.

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SANJAY GUPTA, CNN MEDICAL CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): How's this for a piece of advice: if you want to lower your cholesterol, eat more? Yep, go ahead.

Researchers from Stanford have found that if you switch your diet to more plant-derived foods, you'll be getting a blend of good cholesterol-lowering chemicals, and the more of these chemicals, the better the effect.

(on camera) Well, I really like specifics, so I decided to put this to the test in my own kitchen. You remember, in the mid-'90s, the focus was on a low-fat diet, according to the American Heart Association. So this is what a meal would look like.

For example, for breakfast, a plain bagel, one tablespoon of jelly, three tablespoons of cream cheese. You get a cup of coffee. You get eight ounces of grape juice in the morning, as well.

For lunch, a turkey baloney sandwich with tomato, as well, a cup and a half of potato chips and a caffeine-free diet Coke.

If you wanted snacks throughout the day, you got a couple of Snackwell cookies. Remember those?

For dinner, you got two cups of potato chicken casserole. You also got eight ounces of apple juice.

Now, that was going to be your traditional low fat diet of the mid-'90s. By the time 2000 rolled around, there was much more of a focus not only on low fat, but also lowering your cholesterol.

The first thing you'll notice here, there's a lot more food. First of all, for breakfast you get two cups of whole grain oatmeal, get some raisins sprinkled on top, half a cup of blueberries, some green tea, as well, 10 ounces of soy milk.

For lunch, a soy burger with a little cheddar cheese, an egg, one egg, and some confetti slaw. Also eight ounces of carrot juice.

Now if you want snacks throughout the day on this diet, you get a half a cup of seedless grapes, seven pieces of licorice and again, some more sun-dried raisins.

Now, for dinner, big meal here, two cups of garbanzo beans. This is with tomato sauce. A cup and a half of whole grains, two cups of essential salad, more green tea and for dessert, one whole grain fudge cookie.

The big focus here, what they were trying to figure out is which diet would actually lower your cholesterol further.

(voice-over) They found simply that those who ate the diet with more plant products did better. Specifically, those on a regular low- fat diet saw their cholesterol levels drop nearly five percent. But those on the plant-based low-fat diet saw their bad cholesterol drop nearly twice as much, down 9.4 percent.

Now, in full disclosure, neither diet caused much weight loss or weight gain in the long term. But the evidence is clear. With certain foods, you can eat as much as you want and still lower your cholesterol.

Dr. Sanjay Gupta, CNN, reporting.

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NGUYEN: All right, Miles is hot on the trail in this confetti slaw, because we both looked at each other and went, what is that?

O'BRIEN: Paper. It must be paper. And therefore, a low-fat alternative to something good to eat.

NGUYEN: It looks like coleslaw to me.

O'BRIEN: Yes. That and the soy milk just make it all yummy, and of course, if you found a finger in there, then...

NGUYEN: Back to the finger, still, huh, Miles?

O'BRIEN: Talk about low fat.

NGUYEN: Look, there's Susan.

O'BRIEN: We're not talking about that anymore. Poor Susan.

NGUYEN: We're talking about music clubs, though, today, Susan.

O'BRIEN: Who joins those clubs any more in the era of downloading music, anyway?

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SUSAN LISOVICZ, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Miles, go get your free Frosty!

O'BRIEN: I'm away.

NGUYEN: With a side of confetti slaw, of course.

O'BRIEN: All right. Thank you, Susan.

That's a confused diet right there. Checking news around the world right now.

All's quiet in an Australian prison, thanks to the pizza delivery guy. Up to 20 inmates seized control of the maximum security Risdon Prison, Tasmania, on Saturday. The siege ended yesterday after the convicts released a captured guard. In exchange for? A pizza!

An update on the story of the baby girl saved by a stray dog in Kenya. This is a LIVE FROM favorite story. Yesterday we told you how the dog dragged the abandon newborn across a busy street, through the barbed wire, to a shed sheltering her own pup. The dingo took the baby!

Anyway, today hospital officials report the publicity has brought out a flood of people who'd like to adopt the baby. She's cute as a button, isn't she? Unfortunately, the puppy died.

NGUYEN: Oh!

O'BRIEN: Barrow, Alaska. Here comes the sun, baby. The sun set briefly this morning for the last time until August 2. These pictures we took when we were up there on the story, of all things, about global warming in November. It was just before sun set. So they had about three hours.

NGUYEN: A whole three hours.

O'BRIEN: Excuse me, three months.

NGUYEN: OK! A little different.

O'BRIEN: Of a darkened sky. But if you're drinking the right stuff, it seems like three hours.

NGUYEN: Like three hours.

O'BRIEN: OK. All right.

NGUYEN: Judy Woodruff, you can bail us out here?

JUDY WOODRUFF, HOST, "INSIDE POLITICS": Oh, my goodness. I learn so much from you guys. Thank you.

O'BRIEN: Here to serve.

WOODRUFF: All right, Betty and Miles, thank you both.

Well, the filibuster fight rages on in the Senate. Our Bill Schneider joins us to look at what the debate is really all about, the Supreme Court.

Plus, the finance director for Senator Hillary Clinton's 2000 Senate campaign goes on trial today in Los Angeles. I'll have details on the case and how it may or may not affect Senator Clinton's political ambitions.

"INSIDE POLITICS" begins in just a moment.

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NGUYEN: Betty Nguyen, checking the stories now in the news.

A gruesome find near Los Angeles. The bodies of three children and three adults were discovered in a house in Riverside County early today. The sheriff says all suffered head trauma. The home is owned by an investigator in the district attorney's office. We will have more on this story as it becomes available.

Police have questioned, a quote, "person of interest" in the deaths of two young girls in Illinois. It's the father of one of the girls. The "Chicago Tribune" reports police plan to charge a suspect sometime today. Now the best friends were found stabbed to death in a park. We want to show you some new video into CNN this afternoon of the U.S. military offensive against insurgents in western Iraq. Check it out. At least 100 militants and three Marines have been killed since "Operation Matador" began Saturday night.

Now, we want to take you to Judy Woodruff and "INSIDE POLITICS."

Hi, Judy.

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