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Errant Aircraft Flies into D.C. Airspace; Culkin Testifies in Jackson Trial

Aired May 11, 2005 - 14:31   ET

THIS IS A RUSH TRANSCRIPT. THIS COPY MAY NOT BE IN ITS FINAL FORM AND MAY BE UPDATED.

THIS IS A RUSH TRANSCRIPT. THIS COPY MAY NOT BE IN ITS FINAL FORM AND MAY BE UPDATED.


MILES O'BRIEN, CNN ANCHOR: Lots of questions still in the wake of that errant aircraft -- apparently errant aircraft -- flying into the air defense identification zone, that secure wall of airspace, which surrounds Washington, D.C. It's 75 miles across in some places, very distinct, something that pilots -- any pilot should be aware of.
CNN's Kelli Arena has been following this, trying to get us some more information on precisely what was going on this particular mission.

KELLI ARENA, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Miles, CNN has been able to confirm that the aircraft, the Cessna, is owned a club called the Vintage Arrow Club. It's based in Smoketown, Pennsylvania. The club owns just this one aircraft. And we spoke to a member of that club, a man named John Henderson (ph), who told us that he knows the pilot on board.

CNN has made a decision not to release the names of the two individuals on board, but we can tell you that one of them was described as an experienced pilot, the other as a student pilot. And we're told that they were headed from Smoketown to North Carolina, where there is an air show. Mr. Henderson said that most of the pilots are, as you've said time and time again, Miles, very aware of airspace. He says when you fly VFR, that it's easy to do what this pilot did, which is basically blunder into the airspace.

But he also said that he's guessing right now that that pilot is one very embarrassed guy right now. He does not believe that there was anything nefarious going on. Neither one of these guys, he say, seem to him to be intent on doing any harm. He knows both of them very well, so he -- you know, he says, look, we know where they were going, we knew that they were flying the aircraft, we think that for whatever reason they just stumbled into airspace and didn't respond properly.

Law enforcement has cautioned us all along that, you know, they weren't quite sure what they were dealing with, but that it could have been just someone who panicked at the controls, didn't know exactly how to respond. But in any case, we do have federal agents on the ground now from both the FBI and Secret Service, interviewing both men. Both men have been detained, will be detained until law enforcement is convinced, as Mr. Henderson, is that there was no harm intended -- Miles.

O'BRIEN: All right, well, Kelli, first of all, that's an awfully long flight to go in a Cessna 150. Let me just back up. Was the pilot, the licensed pilot, was he the student's instructor or was this just a buddy of his? Do we know that yet?

ARENA: We don't know. We don't know the relationship. We just know that one was a seasoned pilot, one -- or had been flying for a few years, at least. One was a student pilot. The one who had been flying for a little while is a new member of this club, this Vintage Arrow Club, for about a year, but well-known to the members in that area of Smoketown.

O'BRIEN: All right. Well, let's -- I just want to show our viewers here just quickly, Kelli, while you stand by there. This -- I just charted out Smoketown, Pennsylvania, down to Raleigh, Durham, just for the sake of argument.

ARENA: OK.

O'BRIEN: I don't know where the air show is, but at least that gets you into North Carolina. And as you can see, that's the D.C. airspace there. It's right smack dab in the middle. So if they were completely clueless and just thought hey, we're going to fly right over the White House on the way, I don't know that that's a defense. I can tell you right now the guy who has the pilot certificate faces the distinct possibility of losing it. And the student, I wonder if he'll ever be able to get one. But nevertheless, this would be no secret to anybody in Lancaster, especially being that close to the D.C. airspace.

ARENA: Well, Miles, you know, I can tell you that the pilots that we've spoken to have said that everybody that flies in this area is very well aware, and even those that don't, are aware that there is restricted airspace around Washington. You know, I guess it all has to do with, you know, how you respond in an emergency. Some people's minds do go blank. You know, as I told you before, you know, that there's speculation across the board here that there might have been -- you know, they might have been under the influence. We don't know. We don't know. And the minute that we get some information from that interview, we'll let you know.

O'BRIEN: All right, Kelli Arena. Thank you very much. Appreciate it. We'll continue to track all of the developments of this story. Stay tuned to CNN for the latest information on your security, day and night.

KYRA PHILLIPS, CNN ANCHOR: Well, from child star to star witness, Macaulay Culkin testifies about what happened when he spent time at Neverland with Michael Jackson.

CNN's Rusty Dornin, live at the courthouse in Santa Maria, California, with the latest drama. Hi, Rusty.

RUSTY DORNIN, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Well, Kyra, Macaulay Culkin basically said the same thing that the two other young men who have spent a lot of time sleeping in Michael Jackson's bedroom in the early '90s. He said absolutely not, no and never, when asked if Michael Jackson had ever molested him or touched him inappropriately in any way. Now, Culkin seemed a little rattled at times in cross- examination, kept asking the prosecutors to repeat their questions. But he talked a lot about just hanging out with Jackson, that Jackson understood him, because he'd been a very famous child and followed around by the press, not able to really have true friends. A lot of acquaintances, that kind of thing. Said Jackson understood him.

And again, prosecutors, as they have done with just about every witness, keep asking don't you think it's a little strange that a 35- year-old man is wanting to sleep with you as a 10-year-old child? You know, he's saying it really wasn't a big deal. I'd fall asleep whether I was in the theater or on a video game, that kind of thing, anywhere in Neverland, it didn't necessarily have to be in Michael Jackson's bed.

He was only on the stand for about an hour, which came as a little bit of a surprise. That was shorter than some of the other witnesses, the young men who were -- again, who had spent time at Neverland. They were on a little longer than Culkin.

He was followed by a personal security guard for Jackson, James Van Norman (ph), who also said nothing inappropriate had ever happened that he had seen while he'd been with Jackson on tour. And he also had the bedroom next to Jackson often when they'd go on tour around the world.

What we're going to be watching for the rest of the afternoon is going to be the outtakes of the documentary that sort of started all this, the "Living with Michael" documentary made by Martin Bashir. We're going to be watching the -- Jackson's personal videographer, his outtakes of the filming of that documentary. And that's going to be about two hours and 40 minutes long. That will probably wrap up things today, maybe even go in tomorrow.

We are expecting some other celebrities to come. You know, the defense said they could call up to 15, including Elizabeth Taylor. But we're not sure exactly who is going to be up next on that list -- Kyra.

PHILLIPS: All right. Rusty Dornin, live from Santa Maria. Thank you.

(STOCK MARKET REPORT)

(COMMERCIAL BREAK)

O'BRIEN: United passes at the buck. A judge gives the airline the go-ahead to dump its under-funded pension plans unto a federal agency. That means an outfit called the Pension Benefit Guarantee Corporation, which is a fancy way of saying you and me are paying for these pensions. About 50 cents on the dollar. The airline retirees and the unions are all upset. In short, it's a big mess.

And whenever there's a mess, we like to turn it over to Ken and Daria Dolan, because they...

KEN DOLAN, COHOST, "DOLANS UNSCRIPTED": Oh, thanks a lot, Miles.

O'BRIEN: ... they will be able to sort it out for us. K. DOLAN: Hey, Miles, here's what we're going to do. We're going to do Ken, Miles, Daria, Inc. We're going to go into business, OK?

O'BRIEN: OK.

K. DOLAN: And if we screw it up like the airline business has done, which hasn't made one penny since Kitty Hawk, or the U.S. auto companies, which are a disaster -- one might go out of business, but it doesn't matter! We got taxpayers to bail us out.

O'BRIEN: Well, this gets into deep philosophical questions of what we owe retirees who have worked hard, been loyal and all that kind of thing. Should we be helping these poor, retired pilots out that did their duty?

DARIA DOLAN, COHOST, "DOLANS UNSCRIPTED": Well, you know, here's the thing.

K. DOLAN: All right. OK.

D. DOLAN: When the pension plans went to the care-taking of the Pension Benefit Guarantee Corporation, for the rest of this discussion, PBGC, otherwise I'll be tripping over my tongue.

O'BRIEN: Yes, really.

D. DOLAN: What happens now is, as happened with U.S. Airways, who also sent their pension funds into the PBGC, the -- most of the employees of U.S. Airways are seeing about 50 percent of what their promised benefits were or would have been, had it not gone into bankruptcy. So you're going to see the same thing happening with United Airlines.

K. DOLAN: Delta, too.

D. DOLAN: And, well -- and this puts them at a competitive dollar advantage to the Deltas, to Americans at the moment, because they are off the hook on having to fund these liabilities.

O'BRIEN: So that everybody has to join the bankruptcy party, then, right?

D. DOLAN: This is really -- two of them now down. This will set a possible move on the part of the other ailing airlines, which by the way, between all of them, have $20 billion in unfunded pension liability.

K. DOLAN: Hey, have you heard of Dolans? Dolans? Two Dolans?

D. DOLAN: I'm sorry. I'm sorry.

K. DOLAN: Miles, can I get a word in here, please?

O'BRIEN: Yes, you may. Please, go, Ken. I know it's hard. K. DOLAN: We have talked the companies, we have talked the employees, we're talking about taxpayers getting you-know-what because we're going to have to make up the difference with them screwing up their companies...

D. DOLAN: Well, no, no, no, no.

K. DOLAN: But also -- let me finish!

D. DOLAN: The PBGC has $23 billion deficit now.

O'BRIEN: Yes. Well, here, let's just button this up with one thought. And Ken, you really haven't gotten a word in. But I -- let's just this -- this final thought is, think of all of the golden parachutes these morons at the top of these airlines have gotten. They aren't -- they're going to get every last cent of their big buy- outs after running the airlines into the ground. It's outrageous. What do we do about that, Ken?

K. DOLAN: If you can't run your companies, then go out of business, you're not using my money. But here's -- let me just say one more thing to Miles. And I guarantee I will never say anything else again, ever in my life about this. And that is simply, other people who are going to get hurt, everyone who owns in their mutual funds, 401(k)s, 403(b)s, 457 plans, plans all over the world, shares of United, shares of US Air, shares of American Airlines, shares of Delta, shares of GM, shares of Ford. Nevermind just the employees directly related to the plans -- let me finish -- directly related to the plans, but those of us that have invested in these companies and have seen our investments go down.

D. DOLAN: But at the end of the day...

K. DOLAN: Be responsible! Run your company!

D. DOLAN: But at the end of the day, Miles, it's the retirees already in retirement who have problems and the soon-to-be retired United Airlines workers who have to biggest row to hoe.

O'BRIEN: Well, I mean, I feel for these -- I feel for these guys. I feel for these ladies and gentleman. All right, Ken and Daria Dolan, always a pleasure.

D. DOLAN: Thanks, Miles.

O'BRIEN: We settled that one, I think.

K. DOLAN: Thank you, Miles.

O'BRIEN: Don't forget you can get a full dose of the Dolans Saturday mornings, 10:00 Eastern, 7:00 Pacific. A ratings juggernaut, it has become! Join Ken and Daria Dolan, "THE DOLANS UNSCRIPTED." And we like to think it's because of the promotion we give them, of course, right here on LIVE FROM, which will return after this.

(COMMERCIAL BREAK) (BEGIN VIDEOTAPE)

VERONICA DE LA CRUZ, CNN.COM CORRESPONDENT: After 28 years, "Star Wars" fans will finally find out why Darth Vader is so evil. A master of the dark side of the force, he's also made people very rich. CNNmoney.com shows you how this intergalactic story of love and war has made a cosmic killing.

With more than $12 billion in movie ticket sales so far, the "Star Wars" epic is the most successful film franchise in history. The sixth and final installment kicks off the summer movie season on May 19th. This interactive gallery breaks down the Jedi jackpot from the movies to the merchandise.

"Star Wars" was one of the first movies to recognize the profit potential of movie merchandising. Toy industry experts estimate director George Lucas has made more money from the film's products than the movies themselves. "Star Wars" merchandise has generated about $9 billion, with Darth Vader products topping the best-seller list. The countdown until the opening night of the final episode is on, so don't forget the popcorn.

From the Dot.Com news desk, I'm Veronica De La Cruz.

(END VIDEOTAPE)

(COMMERCIAL BREAK)

O'BRIEN: Some serious competition for iTunes -- Yahoo launching its own music service.

PHILLIPS: Susan Lisovicz has the details, live from the New York Stock Exchange. Hi, Susan.

SUSAN LISOVICZ, CNN FINANCIAL CORRESPONDENT: Hi, Kyra and Miles.

It's one of the few bright spots in the music business, and Yahoo is jumping into the online music business, betting that consumers would rather rent than buy. Yahoo Music Unlimited offers a library of one million songs for $6.99 per month, or $60 a year. For that money you can download a song and listen to it as much as you like as long as you keep paying the subscription the fee. The songs will only be compatible with Microsoft's music format. They will not work on an Apple iPod.

The new offering is serious competition for Napster and Real Networks which offer similar rental services. Shares of Real Networks and Napster both down more than 20 percent. Apple shares are falling 6 percent but Yahoo is up about 1 percent.

The market itself, well, it was singing the blues, but stocks, as you see, have turned around. Of course, a couple hours ago on those headlines that the White House and Capitol were being evacuated, the market dropped dramatically, the Dow Industrials down at 97 points, but have since clearly recovered. The NASDAQ adding a third of a percent. And that is the latest from Wall Street. Kyra and Miles, back to you.

O'BRIEN: All right, thank you very much. Susan Lisovicz.

PHILLIPS: She talked about the markets being affected. Just to update our viewers, it looks like what turned out to be a big scare for some of those within the White House and other buildings around the D.C. area, a small Cessna-150 that flew into restricted airspace, got the F-16's scrambled, everybody responding. A little fear -- fear and loathing there, but it turns out, it could have just have been a student.

O'BRIEN: Well, yes, apparently a student and another pilot -- they were on their way from Lancaster County, Pennsylvania, Smoketown, down, we're told, it appears, to Lumberton, North Carolina, for an air show and unfortunately, right in the middle of that is restricted airspace of D.C. They went into that restricted airspace. The result is what you see here, the evacuation. The U.S. Capitol and White House, all of it for a Cessna 152 that did something really stupid. Stay with us for more.

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PHILLIPS: "Now in the News," a celebrity witness comes to Michael Jackson's defense. Actor Macaulay Culkin took the stand in the singer's molestation trial today to tell jurors that Jackson never molested him. Two prosecution witness testified earlier in the trial that they saw Jackson inappropriately touch Culkin.

Appearing in court today, the father police say brutally stabbed and killed his own daughter, along with her best friend. Prosecutors called Jerry Hobbs an enraged man who slaughtered the girls, aged eight and nine. Their bodies were found in a park in Zion, Illinois, just north of Chicago, on Monday. Hobbs was ordered, held without bond.

A wave of bombings across Iraq today, the most deadly was north of Baghdad in the city of Tikrit. Thirty Iraqis were killed, 40 were wounded, when a car blew up in a busy intersection. Just across Iraq, at least 58 people were killed in a series of attacks.

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Aired May 11, 2005 - 14:31   ET
THIS IS A RUSH TRANSCRIPT. THIS COPY MAY NOT BE IN ITS FINAL FORM AND MAY BE UPDATED.
MILES O'BRIEN, CNN ANCHOR: Lots of questions still in the wake of that errant aircraft -- apparently errant aircraft -- flying into the air defense identification zone, that secure wall of airspace, which surrounds Washington, D.C. It's 75 miles across in some places, very distinct, something that pilots -- any pilot should be aware of.
CNN's Kelli Arena has been following this, trying to get us some more information on precisely what was going on this particular mission.

KELLI ARENA, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Miles, CNN has been able to confirm that the aircraft, the Cessna, is owned a club called the Vintage Arrow Club. It's based in Smoketown, Pennsylvania. The club owns just this one aircraft. And we spoke to a member of that club, a man named John Henderson (ph), who told us that he knows the pilot on board.

CNN has made a decision not to release the names of the two individuals on board, but we can tell you that one of them was described as an experienced pilot, the other as a student pilot. And we're told that they were headed from Smoketown to North Carolina, where there is an air show. Mr. Henderson said that most of the pilots are, as you've said time and time again, Miles, very aware of airspace. He says when you fly VFR, that it's easy to do what this pilot did, which is basically blunder into the airspace.

But he also said that he's guessing right now that that pilot is one very embarrassed guy right now. He does not believe that there was anything nefarious going on. Neither one of these guys, he say, seem to him to be intent on doing any harm. He knows both of them very well, so he -- you know, he says, look, we know where they were going, we knew that they were flying the aircraft, we think that for whatever reason they just stumbled into airspace and didn't respond properly.

Law enforcement has cautioned us all along that, you know, they weren't quite sure what they were dealing with, but that it could have been just someone who panicked at the controls, didn't know exactly how to respond. But in any case, we do have federal agents on the ground now from both the FBI and Secret Service, interviewing both men. Both men have been detained, will be detained until law enforcement is convinced, as Mr. Henderson, is that there was no harm intended -- Miles.

O'BRIEN: All right, well, Kelli, first of all, that's an awfully long flight to go in a Cessna 150. Let me just back up. Was the pilot, the licensed pilot, was he the student's instructor or was this just a buddy of his? Do we know that yet?

ARENA: We don't know. We don't know the relationship. We just know that one was a seasoned pilot, one -- or had been flying for a few years, at least. One was a student pilot. The one who had been flying for a little while is a new member of this club, this Vintage Arrow Club, for about a year, but well-known to the members in that area of Smoketown.

O'BRIEN: All right. Well, let's -- I just want to show our viewers here just quickly, Kelli, while you stand by there. This -- I just charted out Smoketown, Pennsylvania, down to Raleigh, Durham, just for the sake of argument.

ARENA: OK.

O'BRIEN: I don't know where the air show is, but at least that gets you into North Carolina. And as you can see, that's the D.C. airspace there. It's right smack dab in the middle. So if they were completely clueless and just thought hey, we're going to fly right over the White House on the way, I don't know that that's a defense. I can tell you right now the guy who has the pilot certificate faces the distinct possibility of losing it. And the student, I wonder if he'll ever be able to get one. But nevertheless, this would be no secret to anybody in Lancaster, especially being that close to the D.C. airspace.

ARENA: Well, Miles, you know, I can tell you that the pilots that we've spoken to have said that everybody that flies in this area is very well aware, and even those that don't, are aware that there is restricted airspace around Washington. You know, I guess it all has to do with, you know, how you respond in an emergency. Some people's minds do go blank. You know, as I told you before, you know, that there's speculation across the board here that there might have been -- you know, they might have been under the influence. We don't know. We don't know. And the minute that we get some information from that interview, we'll let you know.

O'BRIEN: All right, Kelli Arena. Thank you very much. Appreciate it. We'll continue to track all of the developments of this story. Stay tuned to CNN for the latest information on your security, day and night.

KYRA PHILLIPS, CNN ANCHOR: Well, from child star to star witness, Macaulay Culkin testifies about what happened when he spent time at Neverland with Michael Jackson.

CNN's Rusty Dornin, live at the courthouse in Santa Maria, California, with the latest drama. Hi, Rusty.

RUSTY DORNIN, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Well, Kyra, Macaulay Culkin basically said the same thing that the two other young men who have spent a lot of time sleeping in Michael Jackson's bedroom in the early '90s. He said absolutely not, no and never, when asked if Michael Jackson had ever molested him or touched him inappropriately in any way. Now, Culkin seemed a little rattled at times in cross- examination, kept asking the prosecutors to repeat their questions. But he talked a lot about just hanging out with Jackson, that Jackson understood him, because he'd been a very famous child and followed around by the press, not able to really have true friends. A lot of acquaintances, that kind of thing. Said Jackson understood him.

And again, prosecutors, as they have done with just about every witness, keep asking don't you think it's a little strange that a 35- year-old man is wanting to sleep with you as a 10-year-old child? You know, he's saying it really wasn't a big deal. I'd fall asleep whether I was in the theater or on a video game, that kind of thing, anywhere in Neverland, it didn't necessarily have to be in Michael Jackson's bed.

He was only on the stand for about an hour, which came as a little bit of a surprise. That was shorter than some of the other witnesses, the young men who were -- again, who had spent time at Neverland. They were on a little longer than Culkin.

He was followed by a personal security guard for Jackson, James Van Norman (ph), who also said nothing inappropriate had ever happened that he had seen while he'd been with Jackson on tour. And he also had the bedroom next to Jackson often when they'd go on tour around the world.

What we're going to be watching for the rest of the afternoon is going to be the outtakes of the documentary that sort of started all this, the "Living with Michael" documentary made by Martin Bashir. We're going to be watching the -- Jackson's personal videographer, his outtakes of the filming of that documentary. And that's going to be about two hours and 40 minutes long. That will probably wrap up things today, maybe even go in tomorrow.

We are expecting some other celebrities to come. You know, the defense said they could call up to 15, including Elizabeth Taylor. But we're not sure exactly who is going to be up next on that list -- Kyra.

PHILLIPS: All right. Rusty Dornin, live from Santa Maria. Thank you.

(STOCK MARKET REPORT)

(COMMERCIAL BREAK)

O'BRIEN: United passes at the buck. A judge gives the airline the go-ahead to dump its under-funded pension plans unto a federal agency. That means an outfit called the Pension Benefit Guarantee Corporation, which is a fancy way of saying you and me are paying for these pensions. About 50 cents on the dollar. The airline retirees and the unions are all upset. In short, it's a big mess.

And whenever there's a mess, we like to turn it over to Ken and Daria Dolan, because they...

KEN DOLAN, COHOST, "DOLANS UNSCRIPTED": Oh, thanks a lot, Miles.

O'BRIEN: ... they will be able to sort it out for us. K. DOLAN: Hey, Miles, here's what we're going to do. We're going to do Ken, Miles, Daria, Inc. We're going to go into business, OK?

O'BRIEN: OK.

K. DOLAN: And if we screw it up like the airline business has done, which hasn't made one penny since Kitty Hawk, or the U.S. auto companies, which are a disaster -- one might go out of business, but it doesn't matter! We got taxpayers to bail us out.

O'BRIEN: Well, this gets into deep philosophical questions of what we owe retirees who have worked hard, been loyal and all that kind of thing. Should we be helping these poor, retired pilots out that did their duty?

DARIA DOLAN, COHOST, "DOLANS UNSCRIPTED": Well, you know, here's the thing.

K. DOLAN: All right. OK.

D. DOLAN: When the pension plans went to the care-taking of the Pension Benefit Guarantee Corporation, for the rest of this discussion, PBGC, otherwise I'll be tripping over my tongue.

O'BRIEN: Yes, really.

D. DOLAN: What happens now is, as happened with U.S. Airways, who also sent their pension funds into the PBGC, the -- most of the employees of U.S. Airways are seeing about 50 percent of what their promised benefits were or would have been, had it not gone into bankruptcy. So you're going to see the same thing happening with United Airlines.

K. DOLAN: Delta, too.

D. DOLAN: And, well -- and this puts them at a competitive dollar advantage to the Deltas, to Americans at the moment, because they are off the hook on having to fund these liabilities.

O'BRIEN: So that everybody has to join the bankruptcy party, then, right?

D. DOLAN: This is really -- two of them now down. This will set a possible move on the part of the other ailing airlines, which by the way, between all of them, have $20 billion in unfunded pension liability.

K. DOLAN: Hey, have you heard of Dolans? Dolans? Two Dolans?

D. DOLAN: I'm sorry. I'm sorry.

K. DOLAN: Miles, can I get a word in here, please?

O'BRIEN: Yes, you may. Please, go, Ken. I know it's hard. K. DOLAN: We have talked the companies, we have talked the employees, we're talking about taxpayers getting you-know-what because we're going to have to make up the difference with them screwing up their companies...

D. DOLAN: Well, no, no, no, no.

K. DOLAN: But also -- let me finish!

D. DOLAN: The PBGC has $23 billion deficit now.

O'BRIEN: Yes. Well, here, let's just button this up with one thought. And Ken, you really haven't gotten a word in. But I -- let's just this -- this final thought is, think of all of the golden parachutes these morons at the top of these airlines have gotten. They aren't -- they're going to get every last cent of their big buy- outs after running the airlines into the ground. It's outrageous. What do we do about that, Ken?

K. DOLAN: If you can't run your companies, then go out of business, you're not using my money. But here's -- let me just say one more thing to Miles. And I guarantee I will never say anything else again, ever in my life about this. And that is simply, other people who are going to get hurt, everyone who owns in their mutual funds, 401(k)s, 403(b)s, 457 plans, plans all over the world, shares of United, shares of US Air, shares of American Airlines, shares of Delta, shares of GM, shares of Ford. Nevermind just the employees directly related to the plans -- let me finish -- directly related to the plans, but those of us that have invested in these companies and have seen our investments go down.

D. DOLAN: But at the end of the day...

K. DOLAN: Be responsible! Run your company!

D. DOLAN: But at the end of the day, Miles, it's the retirees already in retirement who have problems and the soon-to-be retired United Airlines workers who have to biggest row to hoe.

O'BRIEN: Well, I mean, I feel for these -- I feel for these guys. I feel for these ladies and gentleman. All right, Ken and Daria Dolan, always a pleasure.

D. DOLAN: Thanks, Miles.

O'BRIEN: We settled that one, I think.

K. DOLAN: Thank you, Miles.

O'BRIEN: Don't forget you can get a full dose of the Dolans Saturday mornings, 10:00 Eastern, 7:00 Pacific. A ratings juggernaut, it has become! Join Ken and Daria Dolan, "THE DOLANS UNSCRIPTED." And we like to think it's because of the promotion we give them, of course, right here on LIVE FROM, which will return after this.

(COMMERCIAL BREAK) (BEGIN VIDEOTAPE)

VERONICA DE LA CRUZ, CNN.COM CORRESPONDENT: After 28 years, "Star Wars" fans will finally find out why Darth Vader is so evil. A master of the dark side of the force, he's also made people very rich. CNNmoney.com shows you how this intergalactic story of love and war has made a cosmic killing.

With more than $12 billion in movie ticket sales so far, the "Star Wars" epic is the most successful film franchise in history. The sixth and final installment kicks off the summer movie season on May 19th. This interactive gallery breaks down the Jedi jackpot from the movies to the merchandise.

"Star Wars" was one of the first movies to recognize the profit potential of movie merchandising. Toy industry experts estimate director George Lucas has made more money from the film's products than the movies themselves. "Star Wars" merchandise has generated about $9 billion, with Darth Vader products topping the best-seller list. The countdown until the opening night of the final episode is on, so don't forget the popcorn.

From the Dot.Com news desk, I'm Veronica De La Cruz.

(END VIDEOTAPE)

(COMMERCIAL BREAK)

O'BRIEN: Some serious competition for iTunes -- Yahoo launching its own music service.

PHILLIPS: Susan Lisovicz has the details, live from the New York Stock Exchange. Hi, Susan.

SUSAN LISOVICZ, CNN FINANCIAL CORRESPONDENT: Hi, Kyra and Miles.

It's one of the few bright spots in the music business, and Yahoo is jumping into the online music business, betting that consumers would rather rent than buy. Yahoo Music Unlimited offers a library of one million songs for $6.99 per month, or $60 a year. For that money you can download a song and listen to it as much as you like as long as you keep paying the subscription the fee. The songs will only be compatible with Microsoft's music format. They will not work on an Apple iPod.

The new offering is serious competition for Napster and Real Networks which offer similar rental services. Shares of Real Networks and Napster both down more than 20 percent. Apple shares are falling 6 percent but Yahoo is up about 1 percent.

The market itself, well, it was singing the blues, but stocks, as you see, have turned around. Of course, a couple hours ago on those headlines that the White House and Capitol were being evacuated, the market dropped dramatically, the Dow Industrials down at 97 points, but have since clearly recovered. The NASDAQ adding a third of a percent. And that is the latest from Wall Street. Kyra and Miles, back to you.

O'BRIEN: All right, thank you very much. Susan Lisovicz.

PHILLIPS: She talked about the markets being affected. Just to update our viewers, it looks like what turned out to be a big scare for some of those within the White House and other buildings around the D.C. area, a small Cessna-150 that flew into restricted airspace, got the F-16's scrambled, everybody responding. A little fear -- fear and loathing there, but it turns out, it could have just have been a student.

O'BRIEN: Well, yes, apparently a student and another pilot -- they were on their way from Lancaster County, Pennsylvania, Smoketown, down, we're told, it appears, to Lumberton, North Carolina, for an air show and unfortunately, right in the middle of that is restricted airspace of D.C. They went into that restricted airspace. The result is what you see here, the evacuation. The U.S. Capitol and White House, all of it for a Cessna 152 that did something really stupid. Stay with us for more.

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PHILLIPS: "Now in the News," a celebrity witness comes to Michael Jackson's defense. Actor Macaulay Culkin took the stand in the singer's molestation trial today to tell jurors that Jackson never molested him. Two prosecution witness testified earlier in the trial that they saw Jackson inappropriately touch Culkin.

Appearing in court today, the father police say brutally stabbed and killed his own daughter, along with her best friend. Prosecutors called Jerry Hobbs an enraged man who slaughtered the girls, aged eight and nine. Their bodies were found in a park in Zion, Illinois, just north of Chicago, on Monday. Hobbs was ordered, held without bond.

A wave of bombings across Iraq today, the most deadly was north of Baghdad in the city of Tikrit. Thirty Iraqis were killed, 40 were wounded, when a car blew up in a busy intersection. Just across Iraq, at least 58 people were killed in a series of attacks.

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