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FBI Revises Charges of Terror Suspects; Bush Urges Renewal of Patriot Act; Three More Suspects Arrested in Aruba Disappearance

Aired June 09, 2005 - 13:00   ET

THIS IS A RUSH TRANSCRIPT. THIS COPY MAY NOT BE IN ITS FINAL FORM AND MAY BE UPDATED.

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FREDRICKA WHITFIELD, HOST: One hundred twenty bullets fired at an unarmed motorist. This hour, the Los Angeles sheriff is expected to announce changes to policy about when deputies can shoot.
An alleged holy war plot against America. The FBI arrests more terror suspects. We're live from Lodi, California.

Missing student mystery. More arrests in the case of Natalee Holloway. We've got latest from Aruba.

TED ROWLANDS, CNN CORRESPONDENT: I'm Ted Rowlands in Santa Maria, California. Michael Jackson takes another trip to hospital. Meanwhile, the jury is still out, still no decision as to Jackson's fate.

WHITFIELD: From the CNN Center in Atlanta, I'm Fredricka Whitfield, in for Kyra Phillips. CNN's LIVE FROM begins right now.

A new arrest, an amended affidavit and more intrigue and allegations possibly to come. It's the terror probe in Lodi, a low- key town in northern California.

CNN's Chris Lawrence is there.

And Chris, I understand that the FBI is about to make some adjustments to some of the charges?

CHRIS LAWRENCE, CNN CORRESPONDENT: They have backed off somewhat, Fredricka. The original affidavit that was released in Washington, D.C., stated that Hamid Hayat considered potential targets to be hospitals and grocery stores.

In the later version that was actually filed in federal court here in California, the FBI backed off and removed all references to those targets. They further clarified, saying they did not find any of these men in the middle of planning an attack.

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KEITH SLOTTER, FBI: Although we believe these individuals are committed to act jihad against the U.S., we do not possess information concerning exact plans, timing, or specific targets of opportunity.

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LAWRENCE: Now, two U.S. citizens are being held in a Sacramento county jail, Umer Hayat and his son, Hamid Hayat, are accused of lying to the FBI. First deny, then admitting, that Hamid attended a terrorist training camp in Pakistan and specifically asking to come back to the U.S. to complete his mission.

Attorneys say their clients are being labeled terrorists without actually being accused, telling us they're only charged with giving a false statement.

Now the other men are two local Islamic leaders and one of their sons. Federal agents won't say how they are connected to the Hayats, but law enforcement sources tell CNN investigators are looking to see if perhaps they were a conduit between terror groups overseas and people right here in the U.S.

We also -- we also have spoken to their attorney. He says it's a case of guilt by association and his clients are completely innocent -- Fredricka.

WHITFIELD: Chris Lawrence, thanks so much, from Lodi.

President Bush is standing up for the Patriot Act today in Ohio. At issue are portions of the post-9/11 search and surveillance measure that will expire at the end of this year unless Congress renews them. The president says they are critical tools, but critics say they're a threat to civil liberties.

CNN's Joe Johns is in Columbus -- Joe.

JOE JOHNS, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Fredricka, the president appearing here at the Ohio Highway Patrol Academy in Columbus to promote the extension of those 16 provisions of the USA Patriot Act, set to expire at the end of the year.

Renewal of some of those provisions is controversial. Some civil libertarians want changes to protect fundamental rights. The president taking them on today, making the case of the leading Senate Democrat has given her seal of approval.

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GEORGE W. BUSH, PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES: When Senator Dianne Feinstein of California, who's worked with civil right groups to monitor my administration's use of the Patriot Act. Here's what she said, "We've scrubbed the area, and I have no reported abuses."

Remember that the next time you hear someone make an unfair criticism of this important, good law. The Patriot Act has not diminished American liberties. The Patriot Act has helped to defend American liberties.

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JOHNS: The White House goal, of course, is extending roving wiretaps, special subpoenas on business records, that kind of thing. But some in Congress say the issue is whether the language in the provisions that exist now ought to be changed or modified. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

SEN. RUSS FEINGOLD (D), WISCONSIN: This is a drastic threat to the freedoms of all Americans. It is completely unnecessary. None of us are advocating the repeal of any of the provisions. We favor the continuation of all the 16 provisions. We just want to fix them. So the president's speech basically had nothing to do with the issue before us.

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LAWRENCE: One of the most controversial provisions people have talked about is the so-called sneak and peek provisions, that would essentially allow federal authorities to go into people's homes and businesses and look around, if you will, even take certain things, seize it as evidence, and not tell the person whose property was searched that they were there.

So it is controversial. And the question, of course, is how to change the language to suit the needs of most of the people who were working on the negotiations.

Fredricka, back to you.

WHITFIELD: And Joe, this was not an arbitrary selection of the city in which the president is stumping for the Patriot Act, is it?

JOHNS: No, not at all. In fact, this is the town where Iyman Faris, who was a suspected terrorist who worked with al Qaeda, was, in fact, taken into custody, because of his work. Iyman Faris was a truck driver alleged to have been associated with al Qaeda.

The administration says they were able to track him by using the Patriot Act, and that is the reason why they came here to Columbus, Fredricka.

WHITFIELD: All right. Joe Johns in Columbus, Ohio, thanks so much.

Well, he is free in the U.K., wanted in the U.S., and barred from the World Wide Web. Gary MacKinnon is a computer engineer who allegedly hacked almost 100 U.S. government systems from February 2001 to March 2002. And not just any government systems, but those of the Army, Air Force, Navy and NASA, supposedly with costly and dramatic results. Yesterday, a court in London released MacKinnon on bail, and he vows to fight extradition.

CNN is committed to providing the most reliable coverage of news that affects your security. Stay tuned to CNN for the latest information day and night.

One hundred twenty shots in all from authorities, against an unarmed suspect at the end of the late-night car chase. The place is Compton, California, and the shooters are L.A. County sheriff's deputies who today have a new policy on the use of such deadly force. It's being announced this hour. And you'll hear the details a little bit later on LIVE FROM.

The suspect was wounded, not killed and pursued in the first place, because there had been reports of gunshot in the neighborhood.

It is back to work for Michael Jackson's jury. But whether the eight men and four men (sic) are near a decision, miles apart, or somewhere in between, we expect them to knock off at lunchtime. Not so -- our Ted Rowlands is there, and he's got the latest -- Ted.

TED ROWLANDS, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Well, Fredricka, jurors will work a half day today to allow for some of the jurors to go to graduation ceremonies in the area. That deal was worked out last week before they started their deliberation process, it's assumed, so we're not reading too much into the scheduling of today. But, still no verdict.

Meanwhile, Michael Jackson makes another trip to a hospital near his Neverland Ranch. This is the fifth time that Jackson has been hospitalized since this trial began. According to a spokeswoman, Jackson made the trip to hospital for his reoccurring back problems. It was characterized as a short visit last night.

There is still this issue of who can speak on the family's behalf. Yesterday we heard a statement from Thomas Mesereau, the attorney for Michael Jackson, saying that nobody has been authorized to speak.

After that statement was released, Mesereau ended up at Neverland Ranch for a visit, presumably with Michael Jackson and family members. All the Jackson camp waiting patiently for this jury's verdict, as they continue to deliberate.

Jurors arrived here a little early today. The vans came in at 8:15 this morning, and they started the deliberation process shortly after that. And they have been at it ever since.

Meanwhile, outside the courthouse, fans continue to gather. They have been holding a vigil out here during the deliberation process since it began last Friday. The judge is allowing only one hour notice. Many of these fans want to be here when word comes down that a decision has been made.

We assume that -- we've been told that the jury will be finishing up deliberations today at about 11 Pacific Time. So not much left in this day of work for the jurors -- Fredricka.

WHITFIELD: And Ted, the jurors getting a half day because of some personal commitments but if, indeed, there is a decision by the jurors, then Michael Jackson apparently gets some notice, as do the members of the media, right?

ROWLANDS: Yes, there will be an hour given for the reading of the verdict. So once the jurors say they have the verdict, the judge has allowed for an hour to elapse for everybody to be notified and make their way to the courthouse.

Jackson's Neverland Ranch is about a 40 minute drive, depending on traffic. So that should allow him to get here in time.

But, you know, the reality of it is, if jurors have commitments this morning, or after 11, they'd better come to a verdict soon or they're going to miss those commitments. So we don't -- we don't believe there'll be a verdict today, but you never know.

WHITFIELD: All right. Ted Rowlands, thanks so much for that update.

More arrests but still no sign of 18-year-old Natalee Holloway. We'll have the latest developments in that case straight ahead.

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UNIDENTIFIED MALE: It felt like a baseball had whacked my foot. And then I look over at it and there was just a huge chunk missing.

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WHITFIELD: Wow, he's lucky in an unlucky kind of way. A rare shark attack off the Jersey shore. A young surfer shares his story.

ROB MARCIANO, CNN METEOROLOGIST: Our first tropical storm of the season brewing in the western Caribbean. Looks like it's going to make landfall somewhere in the U.S. I'm Rob Marciano at the CNN Weather Center. Coming up this hour, a full forecast on that, plus tornadoes likely tomorrow.

CNN's LIVE FROM will be right back.

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WHITFIELD: Three more arrests in Aruba, and now a total of five men in all being held in the disappearance of Natalee Holloway. Earlier in the investigation, three of the men told police they left a nightclub with the Alabama teen, about 1:30 a.m., May 30, but say they dropped her off at her hotel a short time later.

Police in Aruba just held a news conference to update us on the case. Karl Penhaul joins us now from Oranjestad with the latest -- Karl.

KARL PENHAUL, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Fredricka, prosecutors in that that news conference have told us that a vehicle was confiscated from two of the properties raided this morning. We understand that vehicle was the last vehicle in which Natalee Holloway was seen.

They also went on to tell us that one of the three people arrested this morning is a minor, 17 years old, and he had met Natalee Holloway the day before she disappeared.

Beyond that, they went on to say that certain items had been seized also from the two buildings raided, but declined to specify what items had been taken. They also declined to say whether there had been any further clues as to whether Natalee Holloway was alive or dead.

Interesting, also, perhaps one of the prosecutors said, that the investigation was not just centered on Aruba and the United States, but also that police forces have been contacted in South America. You'll remember, Aruba lays very close to the coast of Venezuela and also close to the neighboring country of Columbia.

WHITFIELD: And, Karl if you could just clarify for us, initially, it was reported that there were some charges, that the first two arrested -- had already been imposed on them, and then no charges. What is the situation?

PENHAUL: (UNINTELLIGIBLE) arrested over the weekend, the terminology and confusion comes from the difference, I believe, between U.S. law and Dutch law, Aruba being a Dutch dependency, of course.

The best explanation of what the two suspects currently -- or that were taken into custody over the weekend are is that they are formally accused. And the formal charges against them murder, homicide, and also kidnapping, leading to death.

But in the course of today's news conference, the prosecutors did say they have no evidence to suggest whether Natalee is dead or alive.

WHITFIELD: All right, Karl Penhaul, thanks so much for that update, out of Oranjestad, Aruba.

Now, it is the most desperate and most heartbreaking humanitarian catastrophe on earth today: Western Sudan, 200,000 people dead, millions driven from their homes out of fear. The International Criminal Court this week began an official war crimes probe of the conflict that created the crisis in Darfur. But that's no help to those whose lives are forever ruined there.

CNN's Jim Clancy has the latest efforts to ease the suffering.

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JIM CLANCY, CNN CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): This is Darfur today. Burned out homes, belongings scattered when armed militias raided homes and villages. Fields left untended, lives interrupted.

The conflict in Darfur has killed more than 200,000 people by violence, disease and hunger. Two million people have been driven from their homes in an area the size of France.

Sprawling camps have been set up, housing an estimated 1.4 million internally displaced who are trying to survive.

On a recent visit, the head of aid group Act Caritas told those assembled their hopes were understood.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: We want to be there for you and assist you in taking control over your own lives.

CLANCY: Some people are returning home. There used to be about 70,000 people in Labadoo (ph). About 17,000 have come back, encouraged by the presence of a small contingent of African Union monitors from Nigeria.

MAJ. OLA OYELADE, AFRICAN UNION MONITOR: The people have a feeling that with our presence, at least they are a bit secured, even though they know -- they have come to understand that we are not here to fight, either in support of them or against them. But with our presence, they feel a bit more secure. So they are returning.

CLANCY: Respiratory and eye infections are common, and the coming rainy season raises the risk of diseases carried by water or mosquitoes. Aid workers are racing to stockpile food ahead of that rainy season, knowing most roads will soon become impossible.

At the same time, there's an effort to restore self-respect and a livelihood. Basket weaving for women, fence-building for men, and even a tannery operation to fashion raw animal skins into shoes.

For the children, there are schools and basic lessons. Some 1,500 are already attending this one.

The larger lesson, learned by those who would help ease the Darfur tragedy, is even more fundamental. The food aid, medical attention and all the rest is nearly worthless without security. Unless that comes, in the form of more troops with a tougher mandate, the refugees are not going home and the crisis in Darfur isn't going away.

Jim Clancy, CNN.

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WHITFIELD: A grim assessment today from the United Nations on what it sees as a steep and staggering trend of childhood mortality in Africa. Just 10 years from now, in 2015, a predicted five million children will die of preventable starvation, disease and poverty.

An advisory group called the Millennium Project steers the United Nations strategy to slash the number of people living in the shadow of poverty. Professor Jeffrey Sachs is the group's director. He is also the author of "The End of Poverty: Economic Possibilities in Our Time."

Good to see you, professor.

JEFFREY SACHS, DIRECTOR, MILLENNIUM PROJECT: Nice being with you. Thank you so much.

WHITFIELD: How did you all come to these figures, five million by 2015?

SACHS: What we have is a series of pandemic diseases, massive killers that are out of control right now. Yet every one of them, preventable and treatable. Malaria's the most dramatic for the childhood killers. Up to three million children will die this year, even though malaria is a 100 percent treatable disease.

WHITFIELD: What is the largest obstacle: getting treatment in to many of these countries, and many of these, you know, very remote camps? Or is part of the problem a lack of admission on the part of many of these country governments, who are denying the fact that there are some real hard core, preventable medical care issues that need to be addressed?

SACHS: No, in fact, the countries are desperate. I meet the health ministers all the time. They're desperate for help. They know what's happening. They see in the clinics, in the hospitals, the children dying. I see the children dying before my own eyes when I visit these countries.

But the problem is extreme poverty. They need help. They need financial help from the United States, which has not been forthcoming. So when the richest countries of the world turn their back on the very poorest people, the result is this kind of tragedy. And that's what happened.

WHITFIELD: So with this acknowledged need for help, does it seem as though there is a lack of concern coming from the richest countries, as to how these dollars could actually be put to great use?

SACHS: There's a lack of imagination, I'm afraid, in the leadership of the United States government and some other governments, because they fail to understand how directly these diseases are controllable, should be controlled, but require increased financing.

When Prime Minister Tony Blair came to the White House this week, and President Bush said, "Well, we're just not interested in doubling aid," what he was effectively saying is there's a death sentence over the continent, because Africa does not have the means on its own to take care of this problem. It will get worse unless the United States finally -- finally recognizes its responsibility, following through on past commitments.

WHITFIELD: So are there other ways to define help if not money? If the U.S. and Great Britain are not to provide the amount of money need to purchase some of these treatment, than what about in the form of manpower or supplies?

SACHS: Well, supplies are vital. And Europe has stepped up. It's made an important commitment. When Prime Minister Blair came to the White House, he was carrying with him a European commitment to double aid to Africa by the year 2010.

But the United States said no. Why? I can't imagine. Because, really, it's saying to Africa, "I'm afraid your children are going to be dying by the millions. We're just not interested in helping." That's not what Americans want to be said in their name, but that's what the president did say, unfortunately.

WHITFIELD: So do you suppose the U.S.' response to that is reversible and that perhaps that President Bush might be mulling over exactly what this means, and perhaps change his mind?

SACHS: I hope so. Because I know the American people, whom I'm hearing from, from all over the country, are saying, "Not in our name. We want the United States to be out there, leading, to save lives. We know malaria can be controlled. We know that safe drinking water can be brought to the impoverished villages of Africa. It doesn't cost a lot of money. We want to do it."

And I -- I hope the White House changes its mind. It needs to. Because this kind of massive suffering is a threat to everybody, as well as -- as well as a tragedy for Africa.

WHITFIELD: And in your report defined suffering not just in the need for medical care but also in education. Among the statistics that you all reveal, 45 million children in sub-Saharan Africa are not enrolled in primary education, which is just over one-third of the 115 million children worldwide who do not receive school.

How will education of these children help in their plight there, as well?

SACHS: Without education, there's no escape from extreme poverty. But the poorest of the poor can't afford to send their children, especially their girls to school, unless the schools can provide a warm meal, unless there's a teacher at the school.

I was in a village in Mali just yesterday, actually. There's no teacher there, because they can't afford the teacher. So the children don't go to school.

And here, again, the United States has said that it would help but did not come through with the financing. And this is the tragedy. A little bit of financial help, by our standards of a rich country, could make all the difference for the poorest people in the world. But the president said no recently. He must reconsider, I think Americans would say.

WHITFIELD: It's a sad state of affairs, no matter which way you look at it. Jeffrey Sachs, thanks so much for joining with us.

SACHS: A pleasure to be with you. Thank you so much.

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Aired June 9, 2005 - 13:00   ET
THIS IS A RUSH TRANSCRIPT. THIS COPY MAY NOT BE IN ITS FINAL FORM AND MAY BE UPDATED.
FREDRICKA WHITFIELD, HOST: One hundred twenty bullets fired at an unarmed motorist. This hour, the Los Angeles sheriff is expected to announce changes to policy about when deputies can shoot.
An alleged holy war plot against America. The FBI arrests more terror suspects. We're live from Lodi, California.

Missing student mystery. More arrests in the case of Natalee Holloway. We've got latest from Aruba.

TED ROWLANDS, CNN CORRESPONDENT: I'm Ted Rowlands in Santa Maria, California. Michael Jackson takes another trip to hospital. Meanwhile, the jury is still out, still no decision as to Jackson's fate.

WHITFIELD: From the CNN Center in Atlanta, I'm Fredricka Whitfield, in for Kyra Phillips. CNN's LIVE FROM begins right now.

A new arrest, an amended affidavit and more intrigue and allegations possibly to come. It's the terror probe in Lodi, a low- key town in northern California.

CNN's Chris Lawrence is there.

And Chris, I understand that the FBI is about to make some adjustments to some of the charges?

CHRIS LAWRENCE, CNN CORRESPONDENT: They have backed off somewhat, Fredricka. The original affidavit that was released in Washington, D.C., stated that Hamid Hayat considered potential targets to be hospitals and grocery stores.

In the later version that was actually filed in federal court here in California, the FBI backed off and removed all references to those targets. They further clarified, saying they did not find any of these men in the middle of planning an attack.

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

KEITH SLOTTER, FBI: Although we believe these individuals are committed to act jihad against the U.S., we do not possess information concerning exact plans, timing, or specific targets of opportunity.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

LAWRENCE: Now, two U.S. citizens are being held in a Sacramento county jail, Umer Hayat and his son, Hamid Hayat, are accused of lying to the FBI. First deny, then admitting, that Hamid attended a terrorist training camp in Pakistan and specifically asking to come back to the U.S. to complete his mission.

Attorneys say their clients are being labeled terrorists without actually being accused, telling us they're only charged with giving a false statement.

Now the other men are two local Islamic leaders and one of their sons. Federal agents won't say how they are connected to the Hayats, but law enforcement sources tell CNN investigators are looking to see if perhaps they were a conduit between terror groups overseas and people right here in the U.S.

We also -- we also have spoken to their attorney. He says it's a case of guilt by association and his clients are completely innocent -- Fredricka.

WHITFIELD: Chris Lawrence, thanks so much, from Lodi.

President Bush is standing up for the Patriot Act today in Ohio. At issue are portions of the post-9/11 search and surveillance measure that will expire at the end of this year unless Congress renews them. The president says they are critical tools, but critics say they're a threat to civil liberties.

CNN's Joe Johns is in Columbus -- Joe.

JOE JOHNS, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Fredricka, the president appearing here at the Ohio Highway Patrol Academy in Columbus to promote the extension of those 16 provisions of the USA Patriot Act, set to expire at the end of the year.

Renewal of some of those provisions is controversial. Some civil libertarians want changes to protect fundamental rights. The president taking them on today, making the case of the leading Senate Democrat has given her seal of approval.

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

GEORGE W. BUSH, PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES: When Senator Dianne Feinstein of California, who's worked with civil right groups to monitor my administration's use of the Patriot Act. Here's what she said, "We've scrubbed the area, and I have no reported abuses."

Remember that the next time you hear someone make an unfair criticism of this important, good law. The Patriot Act has not diminished American liberties. The Patriot Act has helped to defend American liberties.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

JOHNS: The White House goal, of course, is extending roving wiretaps, special subpoenas on business records, that kind of thing. But some in Congress say the issue is whether the language in the provisions that exist now ought to be changed or modified. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

SEN. RUSS FEINGOLD (D), WISCONSIN: This is a drastic threat to the freedoms of all Americans. It is completely unnecessary. None of us are advocating the repeal of any of the provisions. We favor the continuation of all the 16 provisions. We just want to fix them. So the president's speech basically had nothing to do with the issue before us.

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LAWRENCE: One of the most controversial provisions people have talked about is the so-called sneak and peek provisions, that would essentially allow federal authorities to go into people's homes and businesses and look around, if you will, even take certain things, seize it as evidence, and not tell the person whose property was searched that they were there.

So it is controversial. And the question, of course, is how to change the language to suit the needs of most of the people who were working on the negotiations.

Fredricka, back to you.

WHITFIELD: And Joe, this was not an arbitrary selection of the city in which the president is stumping for the Patriot Act, is it?

JOHNS: No, not at all. In fact, this is the town where Iyman Faris, who was a suspected terrorist who worked with al Qaeda, was, in fact, taken into custody, because of his work. Iyman Faris was a truck driver alleged to have been associated with al Qaeda.

The administration says they were able to track him by using the Patriot Act, and that is the reason why they came here to Columbus, Fredricka.

WHITFIELD: All right. Joe Johns in Columbus, Ohio, thanks so much.

Well, he is free in the U.K., wanted in the U.S., and barred from the World Wide Web. Gary MacKinnon is a computer engineer who allegedly hacked almost 100 U.S. government systems from February 2001 to March 2002. And not just any government systems, but those of the Army, Air Force, Navy and NASA, supposedly with costly and dramatic results. Yesterday, a court in London released MacKinnon on bail, and he vows to fight extradition.

CNN is committed to providing the most reliable coverage of news that affects your security. Stay tuned to CNN for the latest information day and night.

One hundred twenty shots in all from authorities, against an unarmed suspect at the end of the late-night car chase. The place is Compton, California, and the shooters are L.A. County sheriff's deputies who today have a new policy on the use of such deadly force. It's being announced this hour. And you'll hear the details a little bit later on LIVE FROM.

The suspect was wounded, not killed and pursued in the first place, because there had been reports of gunshot in the neighborhood.

It is back to work for Michael Jackson's jury. But whether the eight men and four men (sic) are near a decision, miles apart, or somewhere in between, we expect them to knock off at lunchtime. Not so -- our Ted Rowlands is there, and he's got the latest -- Ted.

TED ROWLANDS, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Well, Fredricka, jurors will work a half day today to allow for some of the jurors to go to graduation ceremonies in the area. That deal was worked out last week before they started their deliberation process, it's assumed, so we're not reading too much into the scheduling of today. But, still no verdict.

Meanwhile, Michael Jackson makes another trip to a hospital near his Neverland Ranch. This is the fifth time that Jackson has been hospitalized since this trial began. According to a spokeswoman, Jackson made the trip to hospital for his reoccurring back problems. It was characterized as a short visit last night.

There is still this issue of who can speak on the family's behalf. Yesterday we heard a statement from Thomas Mesereau, the attorney for Michael Jackson, saying that nobody has been authorized to speak.

After that statement was released, Mesereau ended up at Neverland Ranch for a visit, presumably with Michael Jackson and family members. All the Jackson camp waiting patiently for this jury's verdict, as they continue to deliberate.

Jurors arrived here a little early today. The vans came in at 8:15 this morning, and they started the deliberation process shortly after that. And they have been at it ever since.

Meanwhile, outside the courthouse, fans continue to gather. They have been holding a vigil out here during the deliberation process since it began last Friday. The judge is allowing only one hour notice. Many of these fans want to be here when word comes down that a decision has been made.

We assume that -- we've been told that the jury will be finishing up deliberations today at about 11 Pacific Time. So not much left in this day of work for the jurors -- Fredricka.

WHITFIELD: And Ted, the jurors getting a half day because of some personal commitments but if, indeed, there is a decision by the jurors, then Michael Jackson apparently gets some notice, as do the members of the media, right?

ROWLANDS: Yes, there will be an hour given for the reading of the verdict. So once the jurors say they have the verdict, the judge has allowed for an hour to elapse for everybody to be notified and make their way to the courthouse.

Jackson's Neverland Ranch is about a 40 minute drive, depending on traffic. So that should allow him to get here in time.

But, you know, the reality of it is, if jurors have commitments this morning, or after 11, they'd better come to a verdict soon or they're going to miss those commitments. So we don't -- we don't believe there'll be a verdict today, but you never know.

WHITFIELD: All right. Ted Rowlands, thanks so much for that update.

More arrests but still no sign of 18-year-old Natalee Holloway. We'll have the latest developments in that case straight ahead.

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: It felt like a baseball had whacked my foot. And then I look over at it and there was just a huge chunk missing.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

WHITFIELD: Wow, he's lucky in an unlucky kind of way. A rare shark attack off the Jersey shore. A young surfer shares his story.

ROB MARCIANO, CNN METEOROLOGIST: Our first tropical storm of the season brewing in the western Caribbean. Looks like it's going to make landfall somewhere in the U.S. I'm Rob Marciano at the CNN Weather Center. Coming up this hour, a full forecast on that, plus tornadoes likely tomorrow.

CNN's LIVE FROM will be right back.

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WHITFIELD: Three more arrests in Aruba, and now a total of five men in all being held in the disappearance of Natalee Holloway. Earlier in the investigation, three of the men told police they left a nightclub with the Alabama teen, about 1:30 a.m., May 30, but say they dropped her off at her hotel a short time later.

Police in Aruba just held a news conference to update us on the case. Karl Penhaul joins us now from Oranjestad with the latest -- Karl.

KARL PENHAUL, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Fredricka, prosecutors in that that news conference have told us that a vehicle was confiscated from two of the properties raided this morning. We understand that vehicle was the last vehicle in which Natalee Holloway was seen.

They also went on to tell us that one of the three people arrested this morning is a minor, 17 years old, and he had met Natalee Holloway the day before she disappeared.

Beyond that, they went on to say that certain items had been seized also from the two buildings raided, but declined to specify what items had been taken. They also declined to say whether there had been any further clues as to whether Natalee Holloway was alive or dead.

Interesting, also, perhaps one of the prosecutors said, that the investigation was not just centered on Aruba and the United States, but also that police forces have been contacted in South America. You'll remember, Aruba lays very close to the coast of Venezuela and also close to the neighboring country of Columbia.

WHITFIELD: And, Karl if you could just clarify for us, initially, it was reported that there were some charges, that the first two arrested -- had already been imposed on them, and then no charges. What is the situation?

PENHAUL: (UNINTELLIGIBLE) arrested over the weekend, the terminology and confusion comes from the difference, I believe, between U.S. law and Dutch law, Aruba being a Dutch dependency, of course.

The best explanation of what the two suspects currently -- or that were taken into custody over the weekend are is that they are formally accused. And the formal charges against them murder, homicide, and also kidnapping, leading to death.

But in the course of today's news conference, the prosecutors did say they have no evidence to suggest whether Natalee is dead or alive.

WHITFIELD: All right, Karl Penhaul, thanks so much for that update, out of Oranjestad, Aruba.

Now, it is the most desperate and most heartbreaking humanitarian catastrophe on earth today: Western Sudan, 200,000 people dead, millions driven from their homes out of fear. The International Criminal Court this week began an official war crimes probe of the conflict that created the crisis in Darfur. But that's no help to those whose lives are forever ruined there.

CNN's Jim Clancy has the latest efforts to ease the suffering.

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JIM CLANCY, CNN CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): This is Darfur today. Burned out homes, belongings scattered when armed militias raided homes and villages. Fields left untended, lives interrupted.

The conflict in Darfur has killed more than 200,000 people by violence, disease and hunger. Two million people have been driven from their homes in an area the size of France.

Sprawling camps have been set up, housing an estimated 1.4 million internally displaced who are trying to survive.

On a recent visit, the head of aid group Act Caritas told those assembled their hopes were understood.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: We want to be there for you and assist you in taking control over your own lives.

CLANCY: Some people are returning home. There used to be about 70,000 people in Labadoo (ph). About 17,000 have come back, encouraged by the presence of a small contingent of African Union monitors from Nigeria.

MAJ. OLA OYELADE, AFRICAN UNION MONITOR: The people have a feeling that with our presence, at least they are a bit secured, even though they know -- they have come to understand that we are not here to fight, either in support of them or against them. But with our presence, they feel a bit more secure. So they are returning.

CLANCY: Respiratory and eye infections are common, and the coming rainy season raises the risk of diseases carried by water or mosquitoes. Aid workers are racing to stockpile food ahead of that rainy season, knowing most roads will soon become impossible.

At the same time, there's an effort to restore self-respect and a livelihood. Basket weaving for women, fence-building for men, and even a tannery operation to fashion raw animal skins into shoes.

For the children, there are schools and basic lessons. Some 1,500 are already attending this one.

The larger lesson, learned by those who would help ease the Darfur tragedy, is even more fundamental. The food aid, medical attention and all the rest is nearly worthless without security. Unless that comes, in the form of more troops with a tougher mandate, the refugees are not going home and the crisis in Darfur isn't going away.

Jim Clancy, CNN.

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WHITFIELD: A grim assessment today from the United Nations on what it sees as a steep and staggering trend of childhood mortality in Africa. Just 10 years from now, in 2015, a predicted five million children will die of preventable starvation, disease and poverty.

An advisory group called the Millennium Project steers the United Nations strategy to slash the number of people living in the shadow of poverty. Professor Jeffrey Sachs is the group's director. He is also the author of "The End of Poverty: Economic Possibilities in Our Time."

Good to see you, professor.

JEFFREY SACHS, DIRECTOR, MILLENNIUM PROJECT: Nice being with you. Thank you so much.

WHITFIELD: How did you all come to these figures, five million by 2015?

SACHS: What we have is a series of pandemic diseases, massive killers that are out of control right now. Yet every one of them, preventable and treatable. Malaria's the most dramatic for the childhood killers. Up to three million children will die this year, even though malaria is a 100 percent treatable disease.

WHITFIELD: What is the largest obstacle: getting treatment in to many of these countries, and many of these, you know, very remote camps? Or is part of the problem a lack of admission on the part of many of these country governments, who are denying the fact that there are some real hard core, preventable medical care issues that need to be addressed?

SACHS: No, in fact, the countries are desperate. I meet the health ministers all the time. They're desperate for help. They know what's happening. They see in the clinics, in the hospitals, the children dying. I see the children dying before my own eyes when I visit these countries.

But the problem is extreme poverty. They need help. They need financial help from the United States, which has not been forthcoming. So when the richest countries of the world turn their back on the very poorest people, the result is this kind of tragedy. And that's what happened.

WHITFIELD: So with this acknowledged need for help, does it seem as though there is a lack of concern coming from the richest countries, as to how these dollars could actually be put to great use?

SACHS: There's a lack of imagination, I'm afraid, in the leadership of the United States government and some other governments, because they fail to understand how directly these diseases are controllable, should be controlled, but require increased financing.

When Prime Minister Tony Blair came to the White House this week, and President Bush said, "Well, we're just not interested in doubling aid," what he was effectively saying is there's a death sentence over the continent, because Africa does not have the means on its own to take care of this problem. It will get worse unless the United States finally -- finally recognizes its responsibility, following through on past commitments.

WHITFIELD: So are there other ways to define help if not money? If the U.S. and Great Britain are not to provide the amount of money need to purchase some of these treatment, than what about in the form of manpower or supplies?

SACHS: Well, supplies are vital. And Europe has stepped up. It's made an important commitment. When Prime Minister Blair came to the White House, he was carrying with him a European commitment to double aid to Africa by the year 2010.

But the United States said no. Why? I can't imagine. Because, really, it's saying to Africa, "I'm afraid your children are going to be dying by the millions. We're just not interested in helping." That's not what Americans want to be said in their name, but that's what the president did say, unfortunately.

WHITFIELD: So do you suppose the U.S.' response to that is reversible and that perhaps that President Bush might be mulling over exactly what this means, and perhaps change his mind?

SACHS: I hope so. Because I know the American people, whom I'm hearing from, from all over the country, are saying, "Not in our name. We want the United States to be out there, leading, to save lives. We know malaria can be controlled. We know that safe drinking water can be brought to the impoverished villages of Africa. It doesn't cost a lot of money. We want to do it."

And I -- I hope the White House changes its mind. It needs to. Because this kind of massive suffering is a threat to everybody, as well as -- as well as a tragedy for Africa.

WHITFIELD: And in your report defined suffering not just in the need for medical care but also in education. Among the statistics that you all reveal, 45 million children in sub-Saharan Africa are not enrolled in primary education, which is just over one-third of the 115 million children worldwide who do not receive school.

How will education of these children help in their plight there, as well?

SACHS: Without education, there's no escape from extreme poverty. But the poorest of the poor can't afford to send their children, especially their girls to school, unless the schools can provide a warm meal, unless there's a teacher at the school.

I was in a village in Mali just yesterday, actually. There's no teacher there, because they can't afford the teacher. So the children don't go to school.

And here, again, the United States has said that it would help but did not come through with the financing. And this is the tragedy. A little bit of financial help, by our standards of a rich country, could make all the difference for the poorest people in the world. But the president said no recently. He must reconsider, I think Americans would say.

WHITFIELD: It's a sad state of affairs, no matter which way you look at it. Jeffrey Sachs, thanks so much for joining with us.

SACHS: A pleasure to be with you. Thank you so much.

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