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Missing Teen's Mother Makes International Plea for Help; Search Continues for Missing Special Forces in Afghanistan; Bush to Meet with Danish Leaders
Aired July 05, 2005 - 13:00 ET
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BETH HOLLOWAY TWITTY, NATALEE HOLLOWAY'S MOTHER: It is now that I ask the world to help me. Two suspects were released yesterday who were involved in a violent crime against my daughter.
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TONY HARRIS, HOST: Strong words and emotions. Natalee Holloway's mom speaking out. We're live from Aruba with more on the investigation.
RUSTY DORNIN, CNN CORRESPONDENT: I'm Rusty Dornin in Coeur D'Alene, Idaho, where we'll show you some haunting images of a kidnapped little girl just hours before her abductor was arrested. That video and details of the suspect's court appearance coming up.
HARRIS: Ferrari in flames. An explosive situation at the gas pump. Amazingly -- wow -- the guy filling up his tank lives to tell about it.
From the CNN Center in Atlanta, I'm Tony Harris. CNN's LIVE FROM starts right now.
Anguish in Aruba. If you've been watching CNN, you've seen a grief-stricken mother lash out at two young men considered suspects in the disappearance of her daughter and the judge who let them go. Here's Beth Holloway Twitty, hours after Deepak and Satish Kalpoe, in custody 25 days, left jail for lack of evidence.
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HOLLOWAY: It is now that I ask the world to help me. Two suspects were released yesterday who were involved in a violent crime against my daughter. These criminals are not only allowed to walk freely among the tourists and citizens of Aruba, but there are no limits where they may choose to travel.
I'm asking all mothers and fathers in all nations to hear my plea. I implore you: do not allow these two suspects, the Kalpoe brothers, to enter your country until this case is solved. Do not allow these criminals to walk among your citizens. Help me by not allowing these two to get away with this crime.
It is my greatest fear today that the Kalpoe brothers will leave Aruba. I'm asking the Aruban officials to notify the United States State Department in the event these suspects try to leave this island. I'm asking all nations not to offer them a safe haven.
I'm asking this in the name of my beautiful, intelligent and outstanding daughter who I haven't seen for 36 days and for whom I will continue to search until I find her. Thank you all so much.
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HARRIS: Now, we have to point out no one, not even the lone suspect still in custody has been charged with anything in Natalee Holloway's disappearance, and all the suspects insist they're innocent. The Kalpoes, moreover, have every legal right to leave Aruba.
With all that in mind, let's get the latest from CNN's Chris Lawrence in Palm Beach. And, Chris, this is about what we expected from the Twitty family after learning the judge's decision yesterday, isn't it?
CHRIS LAWRENCE, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Yes, very much so, Tony. I mean, I can't even begin to know what it's like for a mother who can't find her daughter. Now that must just be a horrible pain for her right now.
But as far as the Kalpoe brothers are concerned, we spoke with their attorney and he told us, yes, they can leave the country, but they don't plan to. He said they're very much aware of how they may be perceived, and they say they have nothing to hide and they did nothing wrong.
We also spoke with the brothers' mother, and she said they had a trip planned to Surinam, and they canceled that and they're going to stay here in Aruba for right now.
And as far as labeling them as criminals, you've got to remember, a judge looked at their case just yesterday and decided there was not enough evidence there to keep them in custody any longer.
HARRIS: But we can certainly understand the emotions from the Twitty family. I'm just sort of -- is there anything more that we can read into why the great concern over the Kalpoe brothers staying on the island? I mean, the common sense is that they believe that the brothers have more information that they can shed on this investigation.
LAWRENCE: Right. Well, just give you a little bit of background, the two brothers and their friend, Joran Van Der Sloot, were the last three we know of to have seen Natalee Holloway on the night she disappeared.
They've all changed their stories multiple times. All three initially said they dropped her off right back here at the hotel. Then the brothers told their mother and police that, no, they were just trying to cover for their friend, and they said they actually dropped off Natalee and Joran at a nearby beach just up the shoreline. Joran Van Der Sloot says he some spent time with Natalee Holloway on the beach and then left her there alone and went home.
So, again, you've got people who have admitted they saw Natalee right up until the last moments where nobody else can say they've seen her after that. So you can understand why the family believes that there is more information to tell.
HARRIS: Right.
LAWRENCE: Especially when you consider they have changed their stories more than once.
HARRIS: Hey, Chris, let me reach with you a little bit here. Is there any buzz on the island among the people that you talked to regularly that, now that the Kalpoe brothers have been released, that even Joran Van Der Sloot might be released because of a lack of real evidence to file charges?
LAWRENCE: There is that -- there is that consideration from some people on the island. I mean, there's some people on the island who are starting to say, why is Aruba getting such a bad rap? Why is all this getting piled on the island? This was a group of high school students who came to the island, and we've plastered this young woman's picture everywhere. We have tried to help with the search.
So I think there's starting to be frustration here from people here who have told us what more do you want us to do? If this was a person who came to the United States and disappeared, would the United States government and your people have done as much as we've already done here?
As far as it coming as a surprise, Joran Van Der Sloot's attorney yesterday sounded very upbeat and confident. He thought his client was going to go free, as well. And it's hard to read too much into this.
HARRIS: Yes.
LAWRENCE: But Joran Van Der Sloot when he was leaving did have a slight smile on his face, almost seemed somewhat confident that things were going well for him at that point.
HARRIS: OK, Chris, very quickly, can you update us on the search for Natalee? We know that the Texas team has been on the ground for a few days now.
LAWRENCE: Still searching. So far, nothing concrete to offer, but the Aruban government has asked some F-16 fighter planes to come over from -- from Holland. They will hopefully start searching tomorrow. A lot is going to depend on this Tropical Storm Dennis that's out there right now. But if that storm clears in time, the jets were going to get out with some infrared equipment and help with the search starting tomorrow.
HARRIS: OK. Chris Lawrence in Aruba for us, Chris, thank you. And we're not done here. In just a few minutes we'll talk more about Aruba justice with local lawyer Arlene Ellis-Schipper. That's at half past this hour of LIVE FROM.
At the top of next hour, we'll check in with Courtney County -- Kootenai County Sheriff's Department in Idaho. It's a pivotal moment in a multiple murder and missing persons case dating back to mid-May.
As you may know, young Shasta Groene, seen here in convenience store surveillance tape, turned up Saturday in the company of a sex offender from North Dakota. That man is due in court later this afternoon while investigators and the rest of us await the results of DNA tests on human remains found yesterday in western Montana. They're presumed to be those of Shasta's brother, Dylan, who like her disappeared from the home where their mother, older brother and mother's boyfriend were found beaten to death seven weeks ago.
CNN's Rusty Dornin has the latest from Coeur D'Alene -- Rusty.
DORNIN: Well, Tony before we talk about the suspect's appearance here in court, let's go back to that video. It provides a piece of the puzzle where Shasta Groene and the suspect were before they came here and her abductor was arrested.
You see in this video where they pull into a convenience store. You see the red Jeep and you see him getting gas. A police car cruises along the street. The suspect looks like he stands behind one of the gas island areas to avoid being seen. They go into the store.
You see the little girl by herself. You don't see the suspect anywhere with her arms wrapped around her, looking withdrawn, looking at people. Then you see him in another part of the store simply reading the newspaper. You don't see Shasta Groene anywhere nearby.
It makes you wonder why she did not try to reach out to adult and wonder how much power this kidnapper did have over her during this time. She had been with him already six weeks.
Apparently, they were in that store for about eight minutes when they left and then apparently came to Coeur D'Alene, Idaho, where they were discovered at 2 a.m. on Saturday morning.
Meantime, here in Coeur D'Alene, Joseph Duncan, who is in a jail about three miles from here, will appear on closed circuit television for the charges. The charges against him now are kidnapping and outstanding warrants. They do say they do predict there will be other charges forthcoming.
Of course, we have to wait and see if the remains are confirmed to be those of Dylan Groene. They are also taking a very close look at Duncan to see if he is connected with the triple homicide -- Tony.
HARRIS: OK. Rusty Dornin in Coeur D'Alene, Idaho. Rusty, thank you.
And we're expecting another news conference at the top of the hour from Captain Ben Wolfinger of the Kootenai County Sheriff's Department. That's at 2 p.m. Eastern, 11 a.m. Pacific right here on CNN.
Cindy is on the doorstep. Dennis may be on the way. Tropical storms three and four are making waves in the Gulf of Mexico and the Caribbean respectively, and meteorologist Bonnie Snyder is watching from the CNN Weather Center.
Hi, Bonnie.
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HARRIS (voice-over): Later on LIVE FROM, watch this: flames bursting from a Ferrari. The driver looks like he's engulfed in flames. He tells his story later on LIVE FROM.
Also, ahead. NASA's Deep Impact probe scores a direct hit on a comet. Now, an astrologer slaps NASA with a lawsuit. Find out why she's asking for $311 million.
And next on LIVE FROM: she ain't heavy. She's my wife. Supportive spouses go the extra mile for the ultimate prize, beer.
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HARRIS: It has now been a week since a U.S. military helicopter was shot down in the ferocious terrain of eastern Afghanistan and all 16 Special Forces on board were killed. Each day since we've learned about more of the ill-fated mission, the latest being two Navy SEALs whom the other troops were trying to reach, known dead, another rescued safely, a fourth still unaccounted for. CNN's Barbara Starr has the latest for us from the Pentagon -- Barbara.
BARBARA STARR, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Well, Tony, a regularly scheduled news briefing will happen in just about an hour and a half in this room. We may learn more details. But this is shaping up to be the worst disaster in the history of the U.S. Navy SEALs since they were formed back in the 1960s, the largest loss of life they have had in combat, we are told.
First of all, of course, there were the eight Navy SEALs, as well as eight Army Special Forces that died last Tuesday in that helicopter crash believed to have been shot down by enemy rocket fire.
But now the military is reporting they have recovered the bodies of two additional SEALs. They were members of that four-man SEAL reconnaissance team that was on the ground in a firefight that got into trouble last Tuesday when they called for those helicopter reinforcements. The bodies of two of them now recovered. Their families have been informed.
Of course, one Navy SEAL was recovered alive. He is recuperating in a hospital in Afghanistan. But Tony, at this hour, nearly a week later, the search goes on for the fourth man, a man who has been missing now in the mountains of Afghanistan for nearly a week.
We are told there are a large number of both Special Forces and conventional troops moving through those remote mountains of eastern Afghanistan, looking for him. Very tough terrain. Enemy fire still in the area -- Tony.
HARRIS: Barbara Starr at the Pentagon. Barbara, thank you.
It is a Bosnian bombshell. Days ahead of ceremonies marking 10 years since the Srebrenica massacre, discovery of 80 pounds of explosives near the memorial site. Bosnia Serb police say they were tipped by E.U. peacekeepers who are still in country, and they have at least an idea who may be responsible. No one is in custody yet. As many as 50,000 people from around the world are expected for Monday's anniversary.
Massive security preparations across Scotland. This footage from Edinburgh, where G-8 protesters continue to amp up demonstrations ahead of tomorrow's summit star.
Meanwhile, President Bush is due to arrive shortly in Copenhagen, Denmark, on his way to the G-8. That's where we catch up with CNN's Elaine Quijano -- Elaine.
ELAINE QUIJANO, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Hello to you, Tony.
President Bush is traveling here to Denmark to deliver a personal thank you to Danish leaders for their support in the war on terrorism. Now, tonight when President Bush arrives, he'll be greeted by the queen of Denmark, and tomorrow he'll be meeting with the prime minister.
But this will be President Bush's first time, his first trip to this country. The president told the Danish Broadcasting Corporation before he left the U.S. that he is looking forward to discussing common interests and talking about promoting democracy and peace.
Now, the Bush administration, of course, views the Danish government as a key ally. Denmark, unlike some of its neighbors here in Europe, has been a staunch supporter of U.S. military efforts, both in Iraq and Afghanistan. In fact, the Danish government has contributed some 500 troops to help with the security situation in Iraq.
And while the Danish people largely support the U.S.-led efforts, they are also asking the question, when will their troops be able to leave?
Now, President Bush. As he has said before when talking about U.S. Forces, says he will not set a timetable, because he believes that would give the enemy an advantage.
Meantime, here in Denmark, tight security, as well, ahead of the president's visit. Authorities are expecting thousands of demonstrators. So far there are about nine protests that have been announced. Now, President Bush, as we mentioned, due to arrive here in Denmark just a short time from now. Again, he'll be meeting with those Danish leaders before heading to Scotland tomorrow for the G-8 summit -- Tony.
HARRIS: CNN's Elaine Quijano traveling with the president in Denmark. Elaine, thank you.
OK. Let's think of some things that could be contentious topics at the upcoming G-8. The Kyoto Protocol, of course. Forgiving African debt, sure. Haggis?
A nasty little food fight erupts after offhand remarks made by French President Jacques Chirac. Chirac was overheard griping to German Chancellor Gerhard Schroeder and Russian President Vladimir Putin about cuisine on the other side of the Chunnel. He reportedly said Britain's sole contribution to European agriculture was Mad Cow Disease and otherwise implied that U.K. food stinks.
Prime Minister Tony Blair has not responded in kind, but the British tabloid "The Sun" chides, "Don't talk crepe, Jacque." And one British food chain reports sales are off for French produce, wine and Brie.
Further inserting his loafer in his mouth, Chirac's also quoted as saying the only country with worse food is Finland. Well, no official comment from Finland on that. But perhaps the Finns are too busy to tell him to tell Chirac to go to Helsinki.
Because anyone who is anyone is anyone has actually been in Sonkajarvi for the annual wife-carrying extravaganza. Hey, if it's a big enough draw for former NBA star Dennis Rodman -- look at this. Oh, boy, who is to quibble?
The gregarious locals even offered Rodman a surrogate. The rules don't require teams to be actually married. Rodman, claiming a knee injury, bum knee, he didn't run the entire course but says he'll train to return next year. The winner gets the wife's weight in beer plus a cell phone.
Flaming Ferrari caught on tape. Check this out. A simple trip to the gas station turns out to be anything but. Details ahead on LIVE FROM.
And cameras catching criminals, but are they invading your privacy in the process? One city's monitoring system raising some issues.
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HARRIS: And this just in to CNN. We're continuing to follow the developments in the CIA leaking case. You know this is the case of the leaking of the identify of a CIA operative that's being looked at now by a special prosecutor.
This just in: a federal prosecutor on Tuesday demanded the grand jury testimony of "TIME" magazine reporter Matthew Cooper, even though Time Incorporated has surrendered e-mails and other documents to the investigation.
Let's go to Washington now and CNN's Bob Franken for an update on the story -- Bob.
BOB FRANKEN, CNN CORRESPONDENT: There was some question about that, Tony, some question whether it had become moot to seek the testimony from Matthew Cooper. He, along with Judith Miller of "The New York Times," have refused to discuss their sources with investigators.
Fitzgerald and his prosecutors, appointed after the leak, which identified Valerie Plame as an undercover CIA operative. She is the wife of Joe Wilson, who had been a critic of the Bush administration.
The information originally appeared in a column by Robert Novak, who, of course, is seen on CNN. Novak has refused to discuss his source also, but has not been a target of this investigation. This has gone all the way to the Supreme Court. Now the judge, Thomas Hogan, is going to decide whether Miller and possibly Cooper will have to go to jail for contempt of court.
Judith Miller, by the way, and "The New York Times" have refused to provide the sources. In addition, the reporter said that if the judge does find contempt of court, rather than sending the two to prison, which could be up to four months in this particular case, that they be placed under house arrest.
Fitzgerald also refused to go along with that, saying he resists the idea of house arrest, because that would not be enough coercion to get them to reveal their sources.
Should point out, by the way, that "TIME" magazine is owned by the same company that owns CNN. It was a decision by management to turn over those e-mails.
There has been acknowledgement now from deputy White House Chief Karl Rove through his lawyers that he talked to Matthew Cooper in that critical week when these stories were appearing, but his lawyer insists that Rove did not identify Valerie or at least did not knowingly identify her.
One of the things that the prosecutor will have to find out is if somebody who did identify Valerie Plame as an undercover agent did so knowingly. That would be a crime. If it was inadvertent, it would not be a crime.
You can see this is quite a tangled web. All of this is going to probably come to fruition tomorrow. There is going to be a court hearing tomorrow afternoon where the judge will have to decide what to do with these two reporters who have run out of apparently legal appeals -- Tony. HARRIS: Hey, Bob, it sounds like the prosecutor is taking a pretty hard line with the reporters. It sounds like the prosecutor is getting the information that is requested, and yet it sounds as though there the prosecutor may be making a bit of an example of these two reporters.
FRANKEN: Well, this has become quite a confrontation between two institutions and two constitutional planes in the United States.
On the one hand, we for years heard from news organizations saying that they -- new organizations, saying that they must have the right of confidentiality, have to be able to resist pressure to identify their sources.
On the other hand, the prosecutor and the lawyers and the judges are saying that greater precedence must be given to orders from the court. So the prosecutor is now taking the position that he might be expected to take, that the courts absolutely have to be obeyed.
That, by the way, was the position taken by the "TIME" magazine management that even though time very strenuously believes sources should be protected even more strenuously court orders must be followed in the U.S.
HARRIS: OK. CNN's Bob Franken in Washington for us. Bob, thank you.
We'll take a break and come back with more of LIVE FROM right after this.
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HARRIS: Pleading for help, the mother of missing Alabama teenager Natalee Holloway issues a tearful plea regarding two brothers who were freed in this case yesterday.
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TWITTY: It is my greatest fear today that the Kalpoe brothers will leave Aruba. I'm asking the Aruban officials to notify the United States State Department in the event these suspects try to leave this island. I am asking all nations not to offer them a safe haven.
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HARRIS: So should the brothers be able to leave Aruba? And if they do, what would it mean for the case? Arlene Ellis-Schipper practiced law in Aruba for years. She joins me now from Palm Beach, Aruba.
Arlene, good to see you.
ARLENE ELLIS-SCHIPPER, ARUBAN LAWYER: Thank you.
HARRIS: Well, let me first ask you, anything in Aruban law to keep the brothers, the Kalpoe brothers, from leaving if they choose to?
ELLIS-SCHIPPER: Well, at this moment actually, no. There was a possibility for a judge of instructions to actually suspend the case under certain conditions, but that hasn't happened. The pretrial detention was just terminated, and that means that you're free to go wherever you want to. You're just free.
HARRIS: To suspend the case, what does that mean? That was an option for this judge?
ELLIS-SCHIPPER: Well, that was only an option if when he assessed the case, he found enough grounds to actually ground a pretrial detention, and then when he sees no reason for the investigation to keep them in that detention, he can say, OK, I'm going to suspend the case -- the pretrial detention under certain conditions, but in this case he assessed it, and he found that there were no grounds anymore to grant this pretrial detention, so I don't think if you come to that conclusion that is an option.
HARRIS: Arlene, help me with this, because you were a prosecutor in that system. Did the rationale change from the last hearing? The evidence that was put forward that the judge agreed was sufficient enough to bound them over for eight more days, did that evidence have to be improved upon to hold them this time around?
ELLIS-SCHIPPER: Well, actually I was never a prosecutor. I was an assistant to the prosecutor.
HARRIS: OK.
ELLIS-SCHIPPER: But as an answer to your question, the first assessment, when they're granted the first pretrial detention, or actually the remand in custody, their assessment is being made on the grounds of the detention. Whether there is serious suspicion or what we call probable cause.
Now, the prosecutor, if you look at the law, just has to maintain those grounds for this pretrial detention to be granted.
Now, it can go either way. We don't know, because we don't have the details of the case. One possibility could have been that the first judge of instructions gave the prosecutor in the first detention the benefit of the doubt, so that means that it was on the border, whether there was enough grounds or not.
HARRIS: I see.
ELLIS-SCHIPPER: And he showed her that she needs to come across with more evidence, or some evidence didn't keep up, so some grounds went away.
HARRIS: OK. All right, I don't want to get bogged down in all that. So the Kalpoe brothers have been released, but they can be rearrested, is that correct?
ELLIS-SCHIPPER: That's correct. They have not been ruled out as a suspect. There's just not enough grounds at this moment in the investigation, grant an extension of the pretrial detention.
HARRIS: All right, my next question: If the Kalpoe brothers have been released for now, essentially because of a lack of evidence, can we speculate on what the burden of the evidence is, the level of the evidence is, that is keeping Joran Van Der Sloot behind bars?
ELLIS-SCHIPPER: Well, I hate to speculate. I am a person that likes facts, so I wouldn't want to go in that, but if you do ask me, the little bits and pieces of what we know from the outside.
HARRIS: Great.
ELLIS-SCHIPPER: There is very little that was keeping the Kalpoe brothers in custody, so I can only -- if you want to go speculate, I can only speculate that there's also not that that much to keep Joran Van Der Sloot, but apparently enough for to grant the pretrial detention for 60 days.
HARRIS: So is there any buzz where you are that suggests that maybe Joran Van Der Sloot could be released soon, as well?
ELLIS-SCHIPPER: Well, buzz, you know, we are all aware of the fact that this is a complicated case. Normally you take a case where you know which criminal offense has been committed, and then you are looking for the suspects. In this case, we are dealing with a suspicion of a criminal offense, and suspects of that suspected criminal offense, so that's thin already to begin with, so then you always have to keep in mind that they really have to find some real evidence for -- to extend those 60 days again.
HARRIS: And, Arlene, let me jump in there -- we don't have a crime yet, do we?
ELLIS-SCHIPPER: No, we don't; we just have a suspicion of a crime.
HARRIS: Just, OK -- so just a suspicion of a crime, which means we don't have even the elements to build the case so far, that we are aware of, the elements of the crime to build the case as a prosecutor.
ELLIS-SCHIPPER: Well, there are some elements. That's why the prosecution office acts this way. The prosecution office apparently has some aspects or elements that makes them strongly suspect that a criminal offense has happened. They have the disappearance of course, and given the experience in the world, if a disappearance takes so long and nothing has been found, there are strong indications of a crime. So those elements you have. You have inconsistencies of stories. That's another element, and probably they would have some other elements, as well, that we don't know of yet.
HARRIS: OK, Arlene, we appreciate your time. Thanks for talking to us.
ELLIS-SCHIPPER: Thank you.
HARRIS: Baltimore, Maryland, has found an answer to reducing crime. Dozens of surveillance cameras set up around the city are helping authorities catch criminals. It appears to be working, but critics see it as a big invasion of privacy.
CNN's Kelly Wallace checked it out herself in Baltimore.
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UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Can you shoot down to -- towards Green and Lexington? There are two number one males. One guy has a striped shirt on.
KELLY WALLACE, CNN NATIONAL CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): In Baltimore, a police officer spots potential trouble miles away thanks to new surveillance cameras in select areas of the city recording what's happening 24 hours a day. One of those cameras is just blocks from where Betty Harris lives.
(on camera): What was this area like before the cameras?
BETTY HARRIS, BALTIMORE RESIDENT: Terrible. Drugs everywhere. Terrible. It's much better now.
WALLACE: You say drugs everywhere.
HARRIS: Everywhere.
WALLACE: You could walk any time of day?
HARRIS: Any time. Any time.
WALLACE: And now?
HARRIS: Look at it. Oh! Thank you, Jesus!
WALLACE (voice-over): Betty knows firsthand. She says she used to buy drugs here, but has been clean for the past six years.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: It's so good that we can actually pick up the license plate number of a car.
WALLACE: Extra eyes on the streets working to prevent crime and nab offenders when a crime takes place, like in this case, where cameras catch a man who police say is preparing to do drugs. Minutes later, officers move in.
Ironically, this all happened just as Baltimore's mayor was holding a news conference back in May unveiling the new cameras. He says they're already making a difference.
MAYOR MARTIN O'MALLEY, BALTIMORE, MARYLAND: Just in the first month here we've seen a more than double-digit reduction of violent crime, even in this area of downtown, which is generally safer than most anyway.
WALLACE: But back in Betty's neighborhood, some residents are concerned. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: What it is, is an evasion of privacy.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: You can't even come and sit on your own step no more. A lot of police pulling up in front of your door, talking about, "Why you all out here? What you all doing?"
WALLACE: Leonard Hamm has served on the police force 22 years and was appointed police commissioner in November.
(on camera): You've heard the critics who say, "It's like big brother is watching. It's impacting my privacy to have cameras watching you 24/7." What do you say to that?
LEONARD HAMM, BALTIMORE POLICE COMMISSIONER: I say, before we put cameras up, we go to the community and say, "This is what we want to the do. What do you think?" And they say, "Give them to us." And every community we go into, they want more and more and more.
WALLACE (voice-over): And some of the cameras are on the move. Officers take them to areas with high crime rates. They are designed to deter. Commissioner Hamm says it's all about giving Baltimore streets back to the people.
HAMM: It allows them to live their life, sit on the steps, to ride their bicycles, to go to the store. That's what citizens want.
WALLACE: That is what Betty wants.
HARRIS: It's the saving of our neighborhood. Not the hood, the neighborhood.
WALLACE: Kelly Wallace, CNN, Baltimore.
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HARRIS: And speaking of crime, it's a crime that we're making you wait one minute longer to learn what Martha Stewart's prison nickname was. But trust me, it is worth the wait. We will have it for you a little later on LIVE FROM.
And can't stop your kid from watching TV? try harder. Find out why, after this.
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HARRIS: Look at this. Just look at it. Incredibly, this Bellevue, Washington, man escapes with only a few singed hairs after a fireball erupted from a gas pump. His classic 1977 Ferrari didn't fare as well. Man, it was totalled. No word on the cause of Saturday's blowup, and as you can imagine, the car owner, Derrick Walker was a bit upset, but happy he lived to talk about it.
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DERRICK WALKER, SURVIVED GAS EXPLOSION: I was checking myself out, thinking I got to be on fire, but I wasn't. I can replace the car, you know, it's no big deal. I mean, it is a big deal. It's going to hurt a little bit, but I'm fine, you know. That's the big deal for me.
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HARRIS: Yes, yes, what's wrong with this picture? Apparently, a whole lot. A new study finds that young kids who have TVs in their bedrooms scored much lower on standardized tests compared with those who didn't. To my kids, note from Dad, we're going to have a conversation when I get home.
CNN's Elizabeth Cohen takes a closer look at why parents might want to pull the plug on those personal TVs, Elizabeth.
ELIZABETH COHEN, CNN MEDICAL CORRESPONDENT: I got to tell you, I was shocked as a parent to see what percentage of kids, third graders, had TVs in their bedrooms.
HARRIS: A bunch.
COHEN: A bunch, a lot. You would have thought maybe, 10, 20, 30 percent. But, in fact, this study that came out from Johns Hopkins and Stanford University found that 70 percent of the third graders who they surveyed had TVs in their bedrooms. And so they decided, gee, what would happen -- let's take a look at how they do on standardized tests. Do they do any differently than the other children?
So 348 third graders. 70 percent had televisions in their bedrooms. Those who had TVs in their bedroom had an eight point drop in math scores, compared to those who didn't have TVs in the bedroom. A seven-point drop in reading scores and an eight-point drop in language arts. And this is out of a regular 0 to 100 scale. So seven or eight points is actually quite a bit. So the bottom line, as I'm sure you would agree...
HARRIS: I'm battling with this.
COHEN: Get them out of the bedroom. Get the TVs out of the bedroom. All right, but why do televisions make such a difference here?
COHEN: I mean, why does it make a difference whether it's in the bedroom or the living room?
HARRIS: Yes.
COHEN: Well, they're not exactly sure. But the theory is that the reason why it makes a difference is that because when a TV is in the living room, the parents can say, hey, turn that off. Or you know what, those silly cartoons, let's instead put on some good educational television. There's more control in the living room.Plus, in the bedroom, the kids can be watching late at night. You don't know. So they're watching late at night...
HARRIS: Yes, yes, yes.
COHEN: ... they're sleep deprived, they don't perform as well in school the next day.
HARRIS: OK, so what, as we battle through this as parents -- what's an acceptable amount of television?
COHEN: And it is a battle. It's a huge battle. Because kids love TV. We saw in that video, they're like -- they become little zombies when they watch it. Well, The American Academy of Pediatrics does have some guidelines. They say that children under two should not be watching any TV, including those adorable little teletubbies that you see here.
And for older children, no more than one to two hours of quality TV per day for those older children. Surveys showed they're watching more like three hours a day, so apparently the nation is not really meeting up to that standard. Now, interesting in that study, kids who had computers in their house, they had higher test scores .
HARRIS: Well, it makes sense.
COHEN: Right.
HARRIS: But the concern is you don't want them in those chat rooms and that sort of thing, but you can get software and...
COHEN: Right, that can control it and you can look at what they've done and look at the history. So that's right. There are ways to take care of that.
HARRIS: OK, so I can take this battle to the homefront with you having my back on it, correct?
COHEN: There you go. I'll talk to your wife for you.
HARRIS: Good, good. We'll take a break and come back with more of LIVE FROM, right after this.
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HARRIS: Bunions, credit card debt, kids who won't turn off their TV in the bedroom. You think you've got problems? There's a woman in Russia who would say, you don't know from trouble. She says Deep Impact has made a lasting impact on her horoscope and she's just the tiniest bit steamed about. OK, she's a lot steamed, and she's suing NASA.
CNN's Ryan Chilcote caught up with her at a Moscow courtroom.
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RYAN CHILCOTE, CNN CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): Outside a Moscow courthouse, astrologist Marina Bai's warms Deep Impact's impact will be felt by the entire universe and all of humankind. She's suing NASA for messing with mother nature. "It was wrong to unilaterally decide some comet is extra," she says, "and take a look at what's inside it just to satisfy their curiosity." Bai is a big fan of Eastern art and philosophy. Her world view goes like this: nature controls everything and anything that alters nature alters history, too. "NASA is changing humankind's path," she says, "and we don't know in what direction, whether it's opened the gates towards heaven or hell."
Comets have been linked to human events by history. By some accounts, the star of Bethlehem was a comet. When Bai first filed suit, she first wanted to stop Deep Impact from happening. Now that it has, she wants to make sure nothing like it ever happens again.
She wants compensation, $311 million of it, the amount she estimates the project cost NASA. She says she has endured headaches, anger and a feeling of loss. But Bai may run into trouble substantiating her take on celestial science in court.
At Moscow's Institute for Thermal Physics, Russia's foremost experts on deep space explosions, if the court asks for their opinion, it won't be in Bai's favor.
VLADIMIR FORTOV, DIR., INST. OF THERMAL PHYSICS: I'd like to congratulate our American colleagues with great achievement and to a very, very, great experiment, which is very successful.
CHILCOTE: Some call her crazy. Bai is unfazed by the criticism. "Let them think I'm crazy," she says, "If only 100 people think about this in a different light, then I've accomplished something." She'll be back in court in three weeks.
Ryan Chilcote, CNN, Moscow.
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HARRIS: And this just in to CNN, Al Qaeda in Iraq, that group headed by wanted militant Abu Musab Al Zarqawi, has issued a claim of responsibility for the weekend kidnapping of Egypt's top diplomat in Iraq, Ihab Al Sherif. Now the statement is dated Tuesday, and the statement also goes on to say that Al Qaeda, or Al Zarqawi, is expected to issue a longer statement soon under the banner of Al Qaeda in Iraq.
And CNN cannot at this point in time confirm the authenticity of the statement. But once again, this just into CNN, al Qaeda in Iraq, a group headed by Abu Musab Al Zarqawi, is claiming responsibility for the weekend kidnapping of Ihab Al Sherif.
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HARRIS: Coming up in our second hour of LIVE FROM, more news on the search for Dylan Groene. Idaho authorities will brief reporters in just a few minutes. We'll bring it to you live.
And a closer look at the man who was found with Dylan's sister over the weekend. We'll talk with a convicted sex offender about life after prison, and what's in the blogs of Joseph Duncan III. That and more much straight ahead.
The investigation into the disappearance of young Shasta and Dylan Groene took a sharp turn Saturday when Shasta was discovered in the company of Joseph Duncan. Hours before they were found, the two were captured on surveillance video at a convenience store.
Reporter Lee Stoll got reaction from the store owner and an employee.
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TED BEMAS (ph): That's him right there.
LEE STOLL, KREM REPORTER: At 8:21 Friday night, Joseph Duncan and Shasta Groene pull into this Kellogg gas station.
BEMAS: That's definitely him right there and her.
STOLL: Owner Ted Bemas couldn't believe what his surveillance cameras caught. Within seconds of pulling in, a police car cruises by just feet from Shasta.
BEMAS: See, he sees the police car now. He's hiding.
STOLL: 8:22, the pair walk in to the convenience store. Shasta keeps her arms lock around her chest but tries to make eye contact with strangers. Wandering down an aisle alone, she squeezes past three adults.
BEMAS: Why didn't she bump one on the leg and say help me or -- of course, you don't know what he's threatened her with or whatever.
STOLL: But Duncan doesn't seem worried where she is, stopping to read a local newspaper and pouring coffee.
CHARLOTTE ANSIT (ph): I felt terrible. I just thought, you know, I should have called. They could have found her six hours sooner.
STOLL: Charlotte Ansit rang up four drinks and over $19 in gas not realizing who the little girl was right in front of her.
ANSIT: They didn't seem like any other -- they didn't seem different than any other customers that I had had. They seemed normal.
STOLL: Eight minutes after pulling up, Shasta and Duncan pull out in the stolen red Jeep. Six hours later, their trip would end for good in Coeur D'Alene.
BEMAS: And she's just jumping in, just like nothing's the matter.
STOLL: Reporting in Coeur D'Alene, I'm Lee Stoll, KREM-2 News.
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