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Schwarzenegger-Backed Ballot Measures Up For Vote in California; Three Reported Injured in Tennessee High School Shooting; Will Republicans Falter on Election Day?; Frozen Airman Possibly Identified

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BETTY NGUYEN, CNN ANCHOR: Well, right now in the news, after a dozen nights of destruction, France declares an official state of emergency -- and you can see why there -- and gives regional officials the power to impose curfews. Prompted by the unrest, the U.S. State Department has issued a public announcement, warning American travelers to steer clear of any riot areas, and to be especially cautious at night. We will have a live report from Paris just ahead.
Supreme Court nominee Samuel Alito is answering more questions about abortion. He met with lawmakers on Capitol Hill today, including Senator Joe Lieberman. Afterwards, the Democrats said Alito told him the Roe v. Wade decision deserves great respect. But, Lieberman said, Alito did not assure him that he would not overturn it.

And a Major League pitcher arrested on major charges -- Ugueth Urbina played with the Detroit Tigers and the Philadelphia Phillies before becoming a free agent. But now he is facing charges of attempted murder in his native Venezuela. He is accused of taking part in an attack on employees at his family's ranch, which reportedly left five workers wounded. Urbina says he had no part in the alleged attack.

Voters going to the polls today in cities all across the country in what has turned out to be no ordinary off-year election. The recent troubles for President Bush and the Republican Party in general has put a new twist on things, shall we say. A lot of the action is in California, where Republican Governor Arnold Schwarzenegger is in a fight over four pet ballot measures.

Here to talk about it is CNN senior political analyst, Bill Schneider.

These are important measures for Schwarzenegger.

WILLIAM SCHNEIDER, CNN SENIOR POLITICAL ANALYST: Yes, they are. He has put himself on the line in the California election. This is a special election. He called it. He has put four ballot measures there, which he says will reform the way government and politics work in California.

Most voters are unfamiliar with the technicalities of these issues, but they do understand that their governor, Arnold Schwarzenegger, is urging voters in California to vote yes on all four measures.

NGUYEN: Bill Schneider, thank you so much.

We're dealing with a -- a developing story right now, which we're going to have to go to. But we appreciate that.

Right now, we are learning -- and this information is just coming into CNN -- that, in, Tennessee, at the Campbell County High School. It's in lockdown after shots have been fired. Information, again, is very sketchy. But we have been told, just now, that the shooter has been captured. Reports have been saying that those shots, though, were fired inside the principal's office.

But we do not know if anyone was injured. And, right now, there are no official reports of injury, but a juvenile is in custody. This person is the suspected shooter in this. And that person is in custody. But, again, a school in Tennessee, the Campbell County High School, is in lockdown after a shooting occurred. And, according to reports, that did occur in the principal's office. We're going to continue to follow all of this and bring you the latest just as it comes into us.

But, as you know, this is a developing story. And we're going to bring you an update when it comes into CNN.

All right, let's get back to Election Day. One big question on this Election Day is, will the Republicans be hurt by the recent troubles in the Bush administration? Clues may be found in New Jersey and Virginia, where voters are electing new governors. And of the tightest races is for governor of Virginia.

Democrat Tim Kaine and Republican Jerry Kilgore have been running neck-and-neck for days now. And their campaigns have turned increasingly negative, with one voter calling them both -- quote -- "stinky."

Democrat Kaine is currently the lieutenant governor. And he received the report of -- or support, I should say -- of teachers and environmentalist, while Kilgore has been endorsed by the NRA and business groups. Now, last night, the state's former attorney general also received a high-powered high-five from President Bush.

Perhaps the most contentious and expensive race has been that for New Jersey governor. After voting earlier, Senator Jon Corzine said he was -- quote -- "a little nervous, a little worried, but confident." The Democrat is counting on big majorities in the cities. His Republican opponent is Doug Forrester, a former mayor of West Windsor. He is looking for strong support from suburbia.

Now, there are also important races for mayor today in New York City, Detroit, Atlanta, Houston, Boston, and San Diego. So, you can see, it is a big Election Day.

So, what will today's results mean for next year's midterm elections?

Well, coming up at the bottom of the hour, I will speak with CNN political analyst Carlos Watson about that very question.

Now to Washington -- it is still buzzing about a published report that the CIA is operating secret prisons in Eastern Europe. While Democrats have been raising concerns about this report, some Republicans want to know the source of it.

CNN congressional correspondent Ed Henry is standing by. And he joins us now from the latest.

What do you know, Ed?

ED HENRY, CNN CONGRESSIONAL CORRESPONDENT: Well, good afternoon, Betty.

We actually have some new information, which is questions now being raised about whether a Republican senator, a Republican, not a Democrat, but a Republican, leaked this classified information. As you know, House Speaker Dennis Hastert and Senate Majority Leader Bill Frist earlier today announcing they are launching a joint committee investigation between both chambers to get to the bottom of who leaked this classified information last week to "The Washington Post," a story about these so-called secret prisons that are holding terror suspects.

As we reported earlier today, a senior Republican had told CNN that the belief here on the Hill was that perhaps current and former CIA officials had leaked it. But, just a few moments ago, Republican Senator Trent Lott told reporters he believes it was a Republican senator who leaked this information. Lott says the detail of these secret prisons were discussed at last Tuesday's Republican-senators- only luncheon. That is a luncheon that happens every Tuesday behind closed doors here on the Hill.

And Vice President Cheney normally attends and was there last Tuesday. According to Lott, there was a lot of discussion about this amendment by Senator John McCain to tighten up anti-torture standards, to make sure the government is not torturing terror suspects. Trent Lott basically says that, after that meeting, where this was discussed -- quote -- "a lot of it" -- in that "Washington Post" story -- a lot of it came out of that room last Tuesday, pointing to the room in the Capitol where Republican senators met.

Then, Lott added -- quote -- "We can't keep our mouths shut. We have met the enemy, and the enemy is us" -- Lott saying that believes, as this investigation moves forward, it will wind up being an ethics investigation of a Republican senator or maybe a Republican staffer as well.

He believes, he theorizes, it went from a Republican senator. The information then went to a Republican staffer, and then on to "The Washington Post." It's very important to note, Senator Lott, obviously, is the former majority leader. He was pushed out by fellow Republicans, doesn't have a good relationship with the White House or with the current Senate majority leader, Bill Frist.

But, a few moments ago, we also caught up with Bill Frist's spokesman. He said he had no comment on what Senator Lott was saying. We asked whether or not this secret prison -- prison classified information was discussed at this Republican luncheon -- again, Frist's office not commenting yet -- a very curious development. Initially, there were reports maybe it was CIA people who leaked this information. Maybe it was Democrats who leaked classified information.

Now a Republican senator, Trent Lott, is saying that, actually, Republicans leaked the information. You can bet we have not heard the last of this -- Betty.

NGUYEN: Oh, no. And it's just interesting, following all the many trails of it.

Ed Henry, thank you for that.

Well, the Pentagon has issued a new directive on the humane treatment of detainees.

CNN senior Pentagon correspondent Jamie McIntyre is at the Pentagon.

And he joins us now with the latest on this -- Jamie.

JAMIE MCINTYRE, CNN SENIOR MILITARY AFFAIRS CORRESPONDENT: Well, Betty, just to be clear, the Pentagon insists that it has never condoned torture, and that interrogation tactics that might have crossed the line into abuse have never been approved, and, when discovered, are punished.

That said, however, the Pentagon is in the midst of doing a number of things to try to ensure that the people who carry out the interrogations and who are responsible for detainees adhere to a policy that guarantees humane treatment. The Army is revising its field manual. That hasn't been released. But, this week, the Pentagon signed a new directive that spells out some of the guidelines in a broad sense.

They say, specifically -- quote -- "All captured and detained personnel shall be treated humanely, in accordance with applicable law and policy." That's the international law -- "the acts -- acts of physical or mental torture specifically prohibited." It also says that any other U.S. government agencies or foreign government representatives must agree to abide by the DOD policies.

That would include things like the CIA or other government who might be trying to get information. And, interestingly, it also says that military working dogs or any other dog shall not be used as part of an interrogation approach.

Now, the ban on the dogs is one of the few specifics in the policy. And it seems to be directly related to some of the allegations of abuse that took place at the Abu Ghraib prison, where dogs were used, in some cases, to intimidate detainees, although, the Pentagon says, not part of any approved interrogation process. The Pentagon effort here also appears to be aimed at blunting some of the criticism coming on Capitol Hill, specifically from Senator John McCain, who has authored an amendment that would ban what he calls cruel, inhumane or degrading treatment. Those are broad terms that go beyond what the Pentagon is saying. And the Bush administration has been arguing that those kind of broad terms that more closely mirror the Geneva Convention could tie the president's hands in the global war against terrorism -- Betty.

NGUYEN: We will be watching.

Jamie McIntyre at the Pentagon -- thank you, Jamie.

In the fight for Iraq, Operation Steel Curtain hits day number four, as U.S. and Iraqi military forces keep up a serious effort along the Syrian border. The action is centered around Husayba, what you see on that map. U.S. commanders say the town has been used as command center for smuggling weapons and fighters into Iraq. Today, house-to-house searches continued, and forces uncovered a weapons cache, a bomb-making factory, and a sniper position.

So far, one Marine and 36 insurgents have been reported killed since Operation Steel Curtain began. A garrison of Iraqi troops is expected to remain behind in Husayba to maintain control once this mission ends.

Elsewhere now in Iraq, another defense lawyer in the trial of former President Saddam Hussein has been shot and killed. The attorney who was representing one of Hussein's co-defendants was the second killed in less than three weeks. A government official suggested Hussein's own followers may be killing the lawyers in an attempt to prevent the trial from taking place.

Here's a question: Did Australian authorities thwart a 9/11-type terror attack? A major terror sweep down under -- we will have those details straight ahead on LIVE FROM.

And emergency measures in France to stop the rioting -- we are live from Paris -- also, ahead, the frozen airman mystery. Remember that one? A Florida family thinks they may hold the key to uncovering his identity.

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NGUYEN: Want to give you an update on a story that we're still following out of the Knoxville, Tennessee, area, where there has been a shooting at the Campbell County High School. We have some latest information.

And, for that, let's go on the phone now to WATE affiliate reporter Amelia Graham.

Amelia, tell me what you know so far.

AMELIA GRAHAM, WATE REPORTER: Well, Betty, I can tell you, there have been three people shot here at Campbell County High School in the last hour. The superintendent has just confirmed that one was the principal, another a vice principal. They do have the shooter in custody, we are told by police here on scene that they do have the shooter in custody. It happened just here in the last hour.

Right now, the school is on lockdown. I'm standing just outside the gate, watching this all unfold. There are dozens of parents that have rushed here to the school, wanting to make sure that their child is OK. But we can confirm no students were injured. We do not know the conditions, however, of the three people shot.

We do understand they were LifeStar-ed to Knoxville, which is about 30 miles south, to U.T. Medical -- sorry -- to the University of Tennessee Medical Center. Again, their conditions are unknown -- Betty.

NGUYEN: OK, Amelia, let's -- let's go through this for a moment -- three people shot, the principal, the vice principal, Who is the third person?

GRAHAM: We are not sure yet. That has not yet been confirmed to us, what that person's identity is.

NGUYEN: OK. We are being told at CNN, it's a teacher who is the third person shot in this school shooting.

And, as for the shooter, you say the shooter is in custody. Is the shooter a student, a male or female? What do you know about the shooter?

GRAHAM: I have heard that it is a male. And I have also heard that it's a student. Again, this is just preliminary reports.

We did have the superintendent out here as well on the phone with some of our reporters back at the station as well -- so, again, still a little early to tell exactly, but we do know that the shooter is in custody.

NGUYEN: All right.

And, early reports, Amelia, were saying that the shooting took place in the principal's office. Do you know anything about that?

GRAHAM: You know, I have heard recently that it was in the commons area.

Now, as for what exactly that is and how close the principal's office is to that, that, I do not know. I'm not too familiar with this campus. But I understand it may have been an eating area as well. But they have been referring to it as the commons area.

NGUYEN: And has there been any concern with students or -- or people coming up to the school that might -- might have lead you to what has happened today, may have tipped you off to what has occurred?

GRAHAM: You know, I have heard nothing about the motivation. I think that's the biggest question mark here, is why this took place. It doesn't seem that there's been any conflict that's -- that is evident to anyone out here.

Right now, I'm seeing, a school bus was just let through the gate. This may be signaling that they are going to try and get some of these students out of here. This is right around dismissal time. But I can tell you, there are a lot of worried parents here, gathered at the gate, just where I am.

NGUYEN: No doubt, they are worried. Do you know what time this took place?

GRAHAM: I believe it was just right after 2:00. As for a specific time, I -- I don't have that yet.

NGUYEN: OK, so not too long ago.

And, quickly, do you know what kind of weapon was used?

GRAHAM: All I have heard is, it was a pistol of some sort. It was concealed under a napkin. So, obviously, it had to be somewhat small.

But I have only just heard it referred to as a pistol from the superintendent.

NGUYEN: All right.

That is Amelia Graham.

We thank you for the information.

She is with Knoxville, Tennessee, affiliate WATE.

And just to recap briefly, there has been a shooting at the Campbell High School there in the Knoxville area. Three people have been shot, the principal, a vice principal. And CNN has been told a teacher has also been injured in that shooting. And we understand that the shooter, indeed, is in custody.

We're, of course, going to follow this and bring you the latest information just as soon as we get it.

Up next, we have a check of business news. So, you want to stay around. There's more LIVE FROM.

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NGUYEN: I want to get you some more information on this developing story out of the Knoxville, Tennessee, area, where there's been a shooting at a school there, a high school there.

Let's take a listen at some of the breaking news coverage from local affiliate WATE.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: This is a developing story. It happened just a little over an hour ago at Campbell County High School there, near La Follette. We were originally told that there were two injured parties. Now we're being told that there are actually, in fact, three injuries, one a teacher, a principal and a vice principal, are the three persons that we understand have been injured in this incident.

Again, a student, at Campbell County High School, a juvenile, carrying a pistol hidden beneath a napkin, walked in, apparently began started shooting in the commons area, known as the -- the cafeteria area there at the school, striking a male teacher, a principal and a vice principal.

And, again, we do not know the extent of injuries. But we do know that no students were injured in this incident. The school is at lockdown.

All right.

NGUYEN: And, again, the school is in lockdown. Parents have arrived to pick up the children. But that is on standby at this moment.

As -- to recap, briefly, school shooting in the Knoxville, Tennessee, area at Campbell High School -- three people shot, the principal, vice principal and a teacher. Their conditions are unknown at this time.

But what we do know is that the suspect, a student, is in custody. That student is believed to have been carrying a gun under a napkin, concealing it under a napkin. So, we're going to stay on top of this and bring you the latest, as this lockdown is still under way in Tennessee.

Well, some well-known names are once again topping the list of hot wheels.

Kathleen Hays has that story live from New York City Stock Exchange.

Kathleen, what kind of hot wheels are you talking about?

KATHLEEN HAYS, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Betty, I'm talking about wheels so hot, that people can't keep their hands off of them.

Hondas and Toyotas remain very popular with car thieves. According to the National Insurance Crime Bureau, the 1995 Honda Civic was the most stolen car last year. A Honda spokesman said that could be due simply to the large number of Civics currently on the road. OK. Six out of the top 10 vehicles on the list were Japanese brands. The rest are pickup trucks and one minivan.

Popularity and longevity have a lot to do with making a car a theft target. As vehicles get older, they require parts more frequently, creating demand for parts from stolen cars.

Now, there was some good news in the report. Overall, more -- motor vehicle theft was down nearly 2 percent, compared to 2003. Turning to the market, stocks are pulling back after recent strong gains -- not a surprise to see a pullback after four straight sessions of gains. Right now, the Dow is down by nearly 29 points, as you can see. And the Nasdaq is just down fractionally.

A disappointing outlook from luxury home builder Toll Brothers is dragging down the entire home building sector and hurting the overall market -- Toll shares dropping 12 percent. The company lowered its estimate for homes delivered in 2006, partly because of softening demand in some markets.

That's the latest from Wall Street. I will be back at the end of the hour with the closing bell and a wrapup of the entire trading day.

LIVE FROM continues after this.

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NGUYEN: Now in the news, a school shooting in Knoxville, Tennessee, area has put Campbell County High School in lockdown mode.

Three people were shot, including the principal, vice principal and a teacher. It's not known at this hour as to what their condition are. But we do know that the shooter is in custody. That shooter is believed to be a student who is accused of carrying a weapon concealed under a napkin. We're going to get you the latest on this as soon as it comes into CNN.

And here's another story we're following today. That's another leak investigation, this one into the one of who told reporters about secret U.S. prisons for suspected terrorists overseas. Now, the Senate and House leader say the disclosure could damage national security. The Bush administration has yet to confirm or deny the existence of such prisons.

Bypass Aruba -- that's from Alabama's governor, who is calling for a nationwide travel boycott there on behalf of Natalee Holloway's family. As you recall, the teenager disappeared without a trace five months ago while on a high school graduation trip. Her family has accused Aruba's government of not cooperating fully with investigators.

All right, more now on our top story, the off-year election -- a key question, will Republicans be hurt by the CIA leak scandal and other troubles in the Bush administration?

For that and other issues this Election Day, we turn it now to CNN political analyst Carlos Watson. He joins us from Mountain View, California.

Good afternoon, Carlos.

CARLOS WATSON, CNN POLITICAL ANALYST: Hey, Betty. Good to see you.

NGUYEN: Good to see you, too. OK, first question. With the president's low approval ratings, does this mean that the Democrats have some momentum going into today's elections?

WATSON: It's a little bit more inside baseball.

So, I think that, yes, among Democratic and Republican insiders, if Democrats pick up these two seats -- or, rather, hold on to the governorship in New Jersey and Virginia, there will be a lot of good feelings. It will be easier to raise money, easier to -- to recruit candidates going into 2006.

But it's worth noting, Betty, that, four years ago, when the president's approval numbers were in the 70s, Republicans, nevertheless, still loss both the governorship of New Jersey and of Virginia. But, a year later, instead of that being a harbinger of bad things, Republicans went on to have a fantastic 2002 congressional season.

So, it's not always definitive, what happens the year before.

NGUYEN: You're in California. There are some key ballot initiatives taking place today.

And voters are going to the polls to decide on those. Let's look at big picture here. Why should the rest of the nation care about those ballot initiatives? Why are they important?

WATSON: Because, whether you talk about medical marijuana, or you talk about what taxes you pay, or you talk about how we approach immigration or affirmative action, much of that has been decided based on California ballot initiatives, meaning they have started here and traveled across the country.

And, this time around in California, a number of big issues -- how we hire our teachers, whether or not and how teenagers can go about getting abortions, how involved can unions be in politics, and even how you elect members of Congress -- all those big issues are on the ballot here. People spent a quarter-of-a-billion dollars. So, you know, another movement could start here in California tonight.

NGUYEN: You know, talking about big issues in Texas, they are deciding a really heated one. And that is same-sex marriage.

WATSON: Very much so.

And you remember, last year, Betty, almost a dozen states in one way or another, from Arkansas to Missouri, voted on similar sorts of definitions of marriages being between a man and woman. You see that here in Texas.

A little bit of what's going on with the ballot initiative here in Texas, as in California, are the governors in these states getting ready for the elections next year. In Texas, the Republican incumbent governor Rick Perry faces a possible challenge and he's hoping to shore up his conservative base by having this initiative on the ballot a year ahead time.

NGUYEN: You're talking about governors. Those gubernatorial races that up for grabs today. Let's talk about New Jersey. That's a key race. You call it unpredictable. Why?

WATSON: Well, you know, New Jersey we think of as a very blue, very Democratic state. It's a state that John Kerry won solidly last year. But the reality is, New Jersey has a history of electing Republicans to be governor, whether that's Christine Todd Whitman or that's Tom Kean back in the '80s. And so it's not a given that a Democrat will win.

What's interesting, though, is that if the Democrat does win here -- Jon Corzine, currently a senator -- two things to remember, Betty. Number one, the stem cell issue has been a big winner for him, and you're likely to see it in other campaigns in 2006.

And number two, whereas as New Jersey normally isn't thought of as kind of a policy laboratory, a place that other states to look to for new ideas, if Corzine wins, it could be at the forefront, if you will, of Democratic progressive policies on healthcare, education and other things. And we may be talking, in a policy wonk way, about what New Jersey is doing, other than, if you will, criminal convictions of its politicians.

NGUYEN: Another gubernatorial race that a lot of people have their eyes on is Virginia's. This is a pretty heated race. But you're saying -- you're calling it a Bush gamble. What's behind that?

WATSON: Well, you know, there was a lot of talk that the Republican candidate, former state attorney general Jerry Kilgore, asked the president to stay out and not campaign. But, of course, last night, the president campaigned briefly on behalf of Kilgore. And a lot of people are wondering if indeed in this close neck-and- neck Kilgore pulls it out, will the president be able to take some credit and say, look, I'm not an albatross around your neck. And other Republicans who are running for office next year, don't run away from me, don't do what they used to call triangulation -- they called it a different way.

The other interesting thing here, Betty, though, is on the flip side, on the Democratic side. If, indeed, on the Democratic side, the lieutenant governor wins, who may be the biggest winner out of this? Not Tim Kaine, the candidate, but the current governor Mark Warner, who's thinking about running for president in 2008. And if he's able to show that even in a very red state, he, a Democrat, has appeal and coattails that could help other Democrats win, you're going to hear about him as a big presidential candidate. They'll start talking about Hillary Clinton, John Edwards and Mark Warner. They'll be the big three they start talking about.

NGUYEN: Oh, that's interesting. Carlos Watson, putting it in perspective for us. Thank you.

WATSON: Good to see you, Betty.

NGUYEN: You, too.

Well, are you going to vote today? Most Americans won't. Election turn-out in odd years is historically much lower than in federal elections. And compared to other Democratic nations, U.S. voter turn-out is low, even for presidential elections. One group, appropriately named Why Tuesday?, says it's the very day that we traditionally have elections on that's the problem. Here are the facts.

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NGUYEN (voice-over): Federal law designated Tuesday as election day in 1845. There were a number of reasons. Among them, it was a convenient day for farmers.

Modern turnout in the United States is far less than many other democratic nations. Since 1945, average turnout in American elections is about 48 percent of the voting age population. That puts the U.S. behind 138 other democratic nations, according to the International Institute for Democracy.

Italy tops the list, with an average of 92 percent turnout. To be fair, some of the nations have only held one election in that time period, and others have penalties against citizens who don't vote.

To make it more convenient, several of those nations hold elections on weekends, including Germany, Switzerland and France. And two more recent additions, Afghanistan and Iraq.

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NGUYEN: Well, coming up, we have a live report from Paris on the French riots. That is next. Plus, the psychology of chaos. Up next, we'll explore what might make someone want to take part in the violence.

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NGUYEN: Now to France, and a pivotal night in efforts to stop almost two weeks of arson and unrest. For the first time since the riots started, cities have the OK to impose curfews, which is a step the government hopes will end the wave of violence.

CNN's Becky Anderson joins us now live from Paris. Becky, has the violence started to subside any?

BECKY ANDERSON, CNN CORRESPONDENT: We don't know at this point. It's about half past 9:00, and that's about the time of night for the past two weeks that the violence has kicked in. We know of just one area -- one local official in one prefecture (ph), as it's known, who has imposed a curfew, which will start at 10:00 tonight and finish at 7:00 in the morning. That's in an area northeast of here in Paris, one of the very depressed neighborhoods known as Ameiogn (ph), where there has been an awful lot of trouble.

So just one area at present confirmed to be under curfew. One considers just how much trouble there's been in Paris over the past few weeks, but more than that in the rest of France. It will be interesting to see whether the other local officials decide to use these curfews which, of course, came out of a meeting, a cabinet meeting today when an old law, a law back from 1955, was effectively reinvoked to allow for the use of curfews. This country effectively under a state of emergency at present.

It is important, though, to say, Betty, that we haven't heard or seen of very much trouble, certainly, over the past 24 to 36 hours in Paris. The trouble has been outside of Paris, in some 220 towns and cities across France, where we have seen another thousand cars torched overnight, and indeed, some 300 people arrested.

We do know, though, that if anybody breaks any of these curfews that are imposed, they are facing jail term of upwards of two months. And let's not forget, a lot of these rioters, these people causing disturbances, they're adolescents. They're kids. It's going to be interesting to see how the state deals with those if they're juveniles and they are expecting, effectively, to send them to jail if they break these curfews -- Betty.

NGUYEN: Very interesting indeed. CNN's Becky Anderson in Paris for us. Thank you, Becky.

Well, the scenes that we've been seeing from France for the past few days are not unfamiliar. Down through the years, riots have occurred in many countries for many reasons. But they often have a common root.

CNN's Randi Kaye looks at the anatomy of a riot.

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RANDI KAYE, CNN ANCHOR (voice-over): Los Angeles 1992, riots erupt after a jury clears four police officers in the videotape beating of Rodney King.

Seattle 1999, a crowd of 40,000 converge on the city during the World Trade Organization meetings.

And now Paris, 2005. Who are these people? Why did they take to the streets?

It's years of resentment, feelings of discrimination, exploitation, that are suddenly ignited by a single incident.

PROF. SUSAN FISKE, PRINCETON UNIVERSITY: Anger is a reaction that people have when some harm has been done to them and they perceive that harm to be intended by somebody else and to be illegitimate.

KAYE: Psychologist Susan Fiske discounts the term, mob mentality. She says rioters are individuals, but are searching for a strong group identity to support their outrage and help them be heard.

FISKE: All of us go along with other people like us. We take our cues for behavior from other people who are around us. We do what other people around us are doing.

KAYE: From the outside, it may look irrational. But rioters believe in their cause. They believe they can effect change.

FISKE: It's important for people to try to understand how, what these people are doing might seem, from their perspective, might seem like the logical, rational thing to do.

It's too easy to dismiss them as irrational and emotional and a mob. But they're people, too, and from their own particular perspective, this is what has to be done.

KAYE: But at what price? A rioter's passion is a challenge for police who must decide quickly how to respond.

HOWARD SAFIR, FORMER NEW YORK CITY POLICE COMMISSIONER: You have to do containment. You have to make sure that you have adequate force that is intimidating enough to deal with the people who are going to commit violence, but not so outrageous that is confrontational.

KAYE: Professor Fiske says it's mostly young men who riot.

FISKE: They don't care whether they are breaking the law or not. I think the point is that the law and the larger societies rules and norms are not so relevant to them in that moment.

KAYE: For centuries, rioters have raised their voices and will continue to raise their fists. The media will continue to capture their anger. In the end, what will be accomplished? More violence and in Paris, death.

Randi Kaye, CNN, New York.

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NGUYEN: In other news, bit by bit, we are learning a little more about the World War II era airman found on a California mountain. So could it be this man? Up next, the little clues that have one family thinking they may have finally found their lost loved one.

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NGUYEN: I want to update you now on a school shooting in Jacksboro, Tennessee, which is about 60 miles northwest of Knoxville. You see right here this helicopter taking one of the three injured to a nearby hospital.

That school shooting happened around 2:00 this afternoon. And we understand three people were shot, including the principal, the vice principal, and a teacher.

Now, it is not known as to what the conditions are of these three people shot, but obviously this helicopter is taking one of the injured to a nearby hospital. This is video of that. We also understand that the shooter is in custody. That alleged shooter being a student, who is described as carrying a weapon, a pistol, to be exact, concealed under a napkin.

A lot of questions surrounding this as to exactly what sparked the shooting, what led up to it. And if this student had any type of a background that may have led to any kind of clues as to this may have occurring.

Again, three people shot in a school shooting in Jacksboro, Tennessee, about 60 miles northwest of Knoxville. That school is under lockdown. We'll keep you posted.

Also want to keep you posted on another story that we've been following up on here on LIVE FROM.

Authorities say they don't expect to find any more bodies in a lake adjacent to a mobile home park, battered by a killer tornado. We're told everyone who lived at the park in Vanderburgh County, Indiana, has been accounted for.

A tornado, as you recall Sunday, killed 18 people there. Four others died in a neighboring county. Earlier on CNN's "AMERICAN MORNING," the sheriff talked about the tremendous toll the tornado is taking.

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SHERIFF BRAD ELLSWORTH, VANDERBURGH COUNTY, INDIANA: It's devastating. We know in natural disasters this is not on the level of Katrina. Our area is very confined and so as far as the scene. It's devastating this community.

Young children, I know the firefighters, the original responders, they are shook up. This is their job. They do it, they do it because they love to help people. But when you pull a young child out of the rubble or someone dies in your arms, it's devastating. These guys need to be commended.

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NGUYEN: Devastating say the very least. Residents of the mobile home park will be able to see the damage for themselves tomorrow. People will be allowed to return to search for those belongings that may be left in the rubble.

Well more now on a story that we've been telling you about. An airman missing for 60 years. His body recently found preserved in ice. They have already introduced you to three sisters in Ohio who believe he may be the missing brother.

But now, members of a Florida family feel he may be theirs. Here is CNN's Thelma Gutierrez.

(BEGIN VIDEOTAPE) THELMA GUTIERREZ, CNN CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): In Honolulu, Hawaii, forensic scientists meticulously work to identify a young airman who died 63 years ago, high in the Sierra-Nevadas at the bottom of a glacier.

While 4,700 miles away, in Jacksonville, Florida, Louella Mustonen and her daughters, Leane and Ona Lea, believe they may know the iceman's identity and hold the key to finally unlocking the secrets of this forensic cold case mystery.

LEANE ROSS, MUSTONEN'S NIECE: I had actually seen a clip as I was going to bed the first night, you know, of the body. So I saw, you know, the arm and leg and so forth and then when I put the pieces together, I just -- I thought, no, it couldn't be.

GUTIERREZ: Would this young airman, found last month encased in ice in the California Sierra, be 22-year-old Leo Mustonen?

LOUELLA MUSTONEN, MUSTONEN'S SISTER-IN-LAW: Here he is with his uniform.

GUTIERREZ: Louella Mustonen, now 85 and once married to Leo's older brother Arville (ph), seems certain.

MUSTONEN: None of us ever knew what happened actually. The government just informed his parents of the crash in the mountains.

GUTIERREZ: World War II was raging. On November 18th, 1942, Leo Mustonen and three others were on a routine mountain training flight when their plane crashed. Louella says her mother-in-law, a Finnish immigrant, never got over it.

MUSTONEN: She cried every day. She waited for months but there was nothing coming.

GUTIERREZ: Then, five years later, after the war, in 1947, climbers found aircraft wreckage and human remains. Leo Mustonen and the others were eventually declared dead. But that was hardly the end to the mystery in the mountains. The next chapter began just last month. Climbers at the bottom of a glacier made another stunning discovery near the crash site.

This time, it's a frozen, young, fair-haired man, still wearing a World War II uniform, his parachute unopened, his dog tags missing. His body is thawed and sent to Hawaii to the forensic labs of JPAC, the Joint Prisoner of War Missing in Action Accounting Command.

In the airman's pelvic bones, forensic anthropologist Dr. Robert Mann is able to tell the airman was in fact in his early 20s when he died.

DR. ANDY HENRY, FORENSIC DENTIST: The injuries were so substantial and severe that it -- he wouldn't have felt anything. He would have died immediately.

GUTIERREZ: He was wearing this insignia and this Army Air Force pin. In his pockets, he carried a black plastic comb, a Sheaffer fountain pen and three small leather-bound address books, all decomposed. His name plate too corroded to reveal his identity, and yet with painstaking work, clues begin to emerge.

HENRY: Very pretty smile, I would say.

GUTIERREZ: Dental records reveal he had a small gap between his front teeth, that his teeth were straight and that indeed he had a nice smile. To Louella Mustonen, it sounds familiar.

MUSTONEN: He had a little gap in between his front teeth.

GUTIERREZ (on camera): Did he have a big smile?

MUSTONEN: Yes, he had a big smile, big from ear to ear.

GUTIERREZ (voice-over): And Louella, says like the frozen airman, her brother-in-law was also blond and always carried a comb.

MUSTONEN: He was always very neat, and very meticulous about his appearance. I never once saw him without his hair combed.

GUTIERREZ: Another detail, the mystery airman had some change in the pocket. Four dimes and five pennies, 45 cents.

MUSTONEN: He never carried any money on him. He and Arville used to teach -- tease each other.

GUTIERREZ (on camera): What would they say?

MUSTONEN: I don't have any money. Well, I don't have any money, either.

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GUTIERREZ (voice-over): This is one of the last photos of Leo Mustonen. The baby in his arms, his favorite niece, Ona Lea.

MUSTONEN: He just adored her.

GUTIERREZ: Today, that baby Ona Lea is a Catholic nun. She say the discovery of the body has unleashed complicated emotions, excitement that at last there may be closure for the family, and sadness of a life lost that could have been.

ONA LEA MUSTONEN, MUSTONEN'S NIECE: Listening to mother explain how he liked children, loved children, I think that would be one that would have been hard, that he didn't have a family.

GUTIERREZ: If the airman is Leo Mustonen, his family says he could be laid to rest in Minnesota, alongside his parents who grieved for him until the day they died.

Thelma Gutierrez, CNN, Jacksonville, Florida.

(END VIDEOTAPE) NGUYEN: And speaking of family, you know that noisy relative who always wants to know your business, who won't let up, even when you politely try to change the subject? Well, Jennifer Aniston has learned that our Larry King is sort of the uber-nosy relative. Just watch her try to get off the hook.

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LARRY KING, CNN ANCHOR: This has been asked.

JENNIFER ANISTON, ACTRESS: OK.

KING: Vince Vaughn, I love him. Come on, we love him.

ANISTON: Yes, we love him. He's great.

KING: We love him, he's a national treasure.

ANISTON: He's a national treasure.

KING: Is it serious? Is everything going ...

ANISTON: I'm not talking about it. I'm not talking about it.

KING: Because it's none of our business.

ANISTON: Because it's none -- that sounds harsh to say it's none of your business. But it's just I've learned my -- you know, you learn your lessons. That's all.

KING: What he is like? I'm not asking you about romance.

ANISTON: You said he's a national treasure. He's a great actor, he's fantastic to work with.

KING: Funny.

ANISTON: Funny.

KING: Do you see the irony in doing a movie called "Break Up"?

ANISTON: Yes.

KING: With Vince Vaughn, right?

ANISTON: Yes.

KING: You liked him right away.

ANISTON: Instantly. Yes, he's a great guy.

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NGUYEN: Poor Jennifer. She said she wasn't going to talk about it. OK. Well you can tune in to see exactly what she said on top of all of that. Tonight's CNN Larry King continues to reel in Jennifer Aniston. That's at 9:00 Eastern.

Well, are you looking to buy your first home? why it's getting harder and harder to afford.

Plus we will bring you the closing bell from Wall Street when CNN LIVE FROM returns after this.

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NGUYEN: "THE SITUATION ROOM" with Wolf Blitzer up next. But first, let's go to Kathleen Hayes live on Wall Street for a check of today's financial news. Hi Kathleen.

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