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Search for the Truth; Schwarzenegger Heads Naturalization Ceremony in San Francisco; Interview with "Desperat Housewife" Marcia Cross; Israeli Prime Minister Olmert's First Trip to the White House

Aired May 23, 2006 - 13:35   ET

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KYRA PHILLIPS, CNN ANCHOR: They're poor, they're in jail and they don't have lawyers. Soon, though, some of the more than 1,000 defendants who've been behind bar in New Orleans since Katrina may go free. The "New York Times" reports a judge there sees little alternative, having had little success in matching up inmates with attorneys. He's Already tried to release one man accused of a felony, but the D.A. objected. Another court reversed that decision, but left the door open for future releases.
So many sad stories came out of Katrina. This one is being told to a grand jury now. Days after storm, New Orleans police shot and killed a mentally disabled man who also happened to be unarmed. An autopsy shows he was shot in the back, which contradicts the cop's story.

Our Drew Griffin investigated for "PAULA ZAHN NOW."

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DREW GRIFFIN, CNN INVESTIGATIVE CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): On Sunday, last September the 4th, Lance Madison said he and his younger, Ronald, were walking up the half-mile-long Danziger Bridge over the Industrial Canal, leaving their flooded home, looking for a way to evacuate.

Madison said teenagers ran up behind, shooting at them.

LANCE MADISON, BROTHER OF SHOOTING VICTIM: We might have been about right here when the kids started shooting at us.

GRIFFIN: A New Orleans police team rushed to the scene in a rental truck after a report about gunshots. They opened fired on the people they saw on the bridge.

WARREN J. RILEY, NEW ORLEANS POLICE SUPERINTENDENT: Several of the people were shot, and I believe two were killed, by our officers in a running gun battle. Now, most police shoot-outs last somewhere between six and 12 seconds, and it's over with. This was a running gun battle that went on several minutes.

GRIFFIN: The first casualty, a teenager killed at the base of the bridge, another critically wounded. Three other people with them were also shot.

Lance and Ronald Madison kept running away from the gunfight, now near the top of the bridge. Ronald was 40, mentally retarded, lived at home with his mother, never charged with a crime. Lance says he saw a policeman behind them point a rifle at Ronald.

MADISON: I said he was shot about right over here, about right here.

And we kept running up the bridge here, trying to go zigzag, so they wouldn't hit us.

GRIFFIN: Lance, a former college football player, said he carried his wounded brother across the half-mile-long bridge and left him here alive, outside the rundown Friendly Inn, while Lance ran to get help, splashing through knee-deep water inside the motel courtyard.

Police say an officer encountered Ronald Madison and shot him at the motel entrance.

(on camera): You heard lots of shots?

MADISON: Yes, I did.

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GRIFFIN: More than one gun?

MADISON: Yes. Two different guns, a -- it's like a handgun or a rifle or a sawed-off shotgun. It was real loud.

GRIFFIN (voice-over): A state police SWAT team tracked down Lance and took him into custody. This news photo shows Lance handcuffed in front of the motel. A few feet away lay his brother's body.

MADISON: My brother was laying right here on the ground.

GRIFFIN (on camera): Face down?

MADISON: Face down.

GRIFFIN (voice-over): In a court hearing last fall, a police sergeant testified, an officer shot Ronald Madison to death at that motel when he turned toward them and reached into his waistband.

But the autopsy results obtained by CNN directly contradict that testimony. Last week, in a lawsuit filed by CNN, the New Orleans coroner, Dr. Frank Minyard, verified, this is the handwritten autopsy report prepared by his pathologist on Ronald Madison's death.

It shows five gunshot wounds in the upper back. Three exited through his chest. None of the shots entered his body from the front. Then there's this, a sketch drawn by New York state police pathologist Dr. Michael Baden, who examined the body at the request of the family's lawyer.

You can see two wounds in the right shoulder and the five in the back. Baden told CNN -- quote -- "Clearly, he was shot from behind."

We told New Orleans police chief Warren Riley about the autopsy findings.

(on camera): Now we understand that Ronald Madison was shot in the back five times.

RILEY: Those are things I can't comment on, no one can comment on, until the investigation is concluded.

GRIFFIN (voice-over): Riley rejected a CNN request to interview the police officers involved.

(on camera): Are you concerned about your officers' actions at that bridge at this point?

RILEY: Well, I have to wait on the conclusion of the investigation. Certainly, we do not condone or officers overreacting, even in the most chaotic time. And we don't know that they overreacted. From the radio transmissions, it sounds like their lives were in danger.

GRIFFIN (voice-over): Yet, no gun was found on Ronald Madison's body. Lance Madison was unarmed when placed under arrest. He since has been released, though the investigation continues.

At last fall's hearing, the sergeant said one officer did see Lance throw a gun into the Industrial Canal. Lance denies he had any weapon.

GRIFFIN (on camera): Did you have a gun?

MADISON: No. I had no gun at all.

GRIFFIN: Did your brother have a gun?

MADISON: No, he didn't.

GRIFFIN: Did you guys pretend to have guns?

MADISON: No, we did not.

GRIFFIN (voice-over): In a hearing on CNN's lawsuit last week, an assistant prosecutor testified the Danziger Bridge shootings have been assigned to a grand jury, although testimony has not yet begun.

The CNN lawyer asked, "What you are investigating in that case is whether any of the police officers may be indicted for homicide; is that correct?"

Prosecutor Dustin Davis answered: "That's partially correct. We are also looking at Mr. Madison's involvement in the incident."

At the end of our interview, Chief Riley conceded, the two brothers may have been uninvolved with the group on the bridge. RILEY: I don't know if those young men were innocent or not. I really don't know if they were with that group or not. I really don't know.

GRIFFIN (on camera): Yes.

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PHILLIPS: You can see more investigative reporting from Drew Griffin on "PAULA ZAHN NOW" weeknights 8:00 eastern, 5:00 pacific.

Straight ahead, The Big Apple versus a big storm.

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NICHOLAS COCH, COASTAL GEOLOGIST: The most dangerous thing in New York is the New Yorker. And the New Yorker thinks they've been tested by everything.

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On the verge of a new hurricane season. Warning from the experts when LIVE FROM returns.

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PHILLIPS: When we talk hurricanes we usually talk about the Gulf Coast or southeast, not the northeast. Certainly not New York. Come June 1st experts warn New Yorkers should keep a sharp eye on the eye and the water. CNN's John Zarrella has more.

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JOHN ZARRELLA, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Steve and Debbie O'Sullivan and their three children live in Rockaway Beach in Queens, New York. A tranquil setting, beautiful wide shoreline. They never really worried about hurricanes, until now.

STEVE O'SULLIVAN, NEW YORK RESIDENT: We never really understood, you know, the greater impact of it. We never had a great fear. We used to play out in them.

ZARRELLA (on camera): What's changed?

S. O'SULLIVAN: Katrina.

ZARRELLA (voice-over): For the first time, the O'Sullivan's, whose house sits just one block from the ocean, with the Atlantic on one side and Jamaica Bay on the other, are thinking about stocking up on hurricane supplies.

D. O'SULLIVAN, NEW YORK RESIDENT: I really am seriously considering getting more supplies of water and dry goods. It is a worry for me. I mean, he's not as worried as I am.

ZARRELLA: There may be good reason for concern. New York City hasn't experienced a big hurricane since 1938. With the increase in hurricane activity, combined with the law of averages, many experts believe another major storm may be coming, and soon.

(on camera): Is it gonna be a slow rise?

COCH: Yes. It's gonna come up slowly, about the rate that you fill a bath tub.

ZARRELLA (on camera): Coastal geologist, Nick Coch, himself a New Yorker, believes it would be catastrophic. Deaths might surpass Katrina.

COCH: Because the most dangerous thing in New York is the New Yorker. And the New Yorker thinks they've been tested by everything, but very few New Yorkers have been in the eye of a hurricane and know how uncontrollable the energy is.

ZARRELLA: National Hurricane Center computer models and comprehensive studies are chilling. The water is pushed into lower Manhattan, steadily rising. Sea water pours through the Holland and Brooklyn Battery tunnels. JFK airport goes under an astounding 20 feet of water.

(on camera): This is the famous Fulton Ferry boat landing in Brooklyn. It's a popular spot for young couples to come and take wedding pictures. But if a major hurricane hits, all this will be under water.

(voice-over): Water in the Wall Street district could be seven feet deep. The subway is knocked down.

COCH: There's going to be glass all over the street, glass flying through the air.

ZARRELLA: One study puts economic losses from a category three hurricane at $100 billion. That threat is causing Allstate to stop writing new insurance policies in the New York area and even canceling some customers.

JEANNE SALVATORE, INSURANCE INFORMATION INST.: Metropolitan areas have high population density and very expensive properties. So you throw a hurricane into that scenario and the results can be really catastrophic.

ZARRELLA: City officials are in the midst of a major preparedness campaign. Part of the plan, move 2.3 million people out of coastal zones. But how many will go? Dolores Orr heads the community board in Rockaway.

DOLORES ORR, COMMUNITY BOARD CHAIRMAN: For those that were raised here, I hear them today talking that they're not going anywhere. And that's a concern.

ZARRELLA: For the O'Sullivan's being prepared just makes sense. Even here in New York where hurricanes are as unheard of as the Yankees not making the playoffs. John Zarrella, CNN, New York. (END VIDEOTAPE)

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PHILLIPS: She escaped from a mental hospital just in time to save her daughter from a killer. How can you resist a TV show with that set-up? We can't, so we're bringing in our own desperate housewife for dishy details. Stick around, because we'll talk about you if you don't.

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PHILLIPS: Straight to San Francisco, California, where Schwarzenegger, Arnold Schwarzenegger, is talking -- telling his own story about being an immigrant to this country. Presiding over a naturalization ceremony for about 1,200 soon to be U.S. citizens. We're expecting him to tell his own story as well.

GOV. ARNOLD SCHWARZENEGGER (R), CALIFORNIA: ... that the title, that I treasure most of all is the title, American. Not because of the name alone, but just because of what it meant. What it means is to be part of the greatest country in the world.

America was always the place that I dreamt about coming. Even when he was 10 years old I always dreamt about coming to America, because it was always known as promised land, the place of freedom and the unlimited opportunity, the place where if you worked hard and you played by the rules and did the right thing, you could make your dreams become a reality.

But it is important not just about thinking about what America can do for us, but it is also important to say and to think about what can we do for America, what can we give back to America? So I came here and studied the language and studied English. Not I'm perfect yet, but I studied English, nevertheless. And I went to college and I studied business. I studied how the American economy, the political system, really worked, so that I could become part of the American fabric, so I could take advantage of all the great opportunities that are available here in America, but also so I'm able to give something back.

My dreams came true beyond my wildest imagination, and I really believe that the same can be true for all of you right in here. I will never forget the actual day when I became a citizen in 1983, 15 years after arriving here in America. Of course, I felt like being an American all along, way before I ever came here with my gym bag and with $20 in my pocket. But I got so excited on the actual day of my swearing in. I remember raising my hand and repeating the oath, I had chills, I had kind of, like, goose bumps all over my body. I was so excited about it.

And then after that ceremony, I went home and wrapped myself in the American flag and I put on an American flag hat and I put on an American flag tie around my neck and I was smiling from ear to ear, because I was so excited about now being officially called an American. It meant that I could vote, I could go and travel around now with my American passport, and I could even run for office. Don't misunderstood me, that doesn't mean that I don't love my home country Austria. Yes, I love it. Austria is always very dear to my heart. But I always felt like an American, through and through. I never felt prouder than when I became an American citizen that day.

And what is amazing about it is I'm not the only one who feel like that. You all feel like that and many others feel like that. As a matter of fact, 1,200 new citizens are sworn in every two weeks in ceremonies like this one here today, just in San Francisco alone. As a matter of fact, 171,685 immigrants are sworn and naturalized...

PHILLIPS: California Governor Arnold Schwarzenegger, speaking there at the naturalization ceremony in San Francisco, California. Twelve hundred soon to be U.S. citizens from 93 different countries listening to his story of how he became a citizen. He actually said he had dreamed about coming to America since the age of 10 years old. He came here with a gym bag, $20 in his pocket, and he remembers this very ceremony and getting goosebumps when he said the pledge. We'll continue to follow it. Pretty heartwarming event for those 1,200 soon to be U.S. citizens. It's an exciting time, if you've ever been to one of those ceremonies. We'll be right back. We'll take a quick break.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Congratulations, new citizens.

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MARCIA CROSS, ACTRESS, "DESPERATE HOUSEWIVES": Well, I'm only supposed to be restrained until 7:00. You see, I have a little problem with sleepwalking. They just tie me up so that I don't wander off and hurt myself.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Yes, well, I'm sure a nurse will be in here soon.

CROSS: One can only hope. Of course, if a doctor gets here first and sees that someone forgot to release me, I'm sure they'll get in a lot of trouble.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Lady, I can't let you out of your restraints. I'd get fired.

CROSS: Oh, well, I certainly would not want that to happen.

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PHILLIPS: So is it any wonder that Bree Van De Kamp is tied up in knots? A husband killed by a jealous boyfriend who committed suicide, a blackmailing son, and a daughter who's hooked up with a murderer. Oh, and don't forget the alcoholism and enough perfectionism for ten Martha Stewarts. Now, that's just scratching the catty surface of Marcia Cross's role on "Desperate Housewives." And we're happy to see that you're still in one piece after this past season. Thank you so much for joining us.

CROSS: Thank you. I have to tell you, at the end of that scene, what they cut...

PHILLIPS: Yes?

CROSS: ... was -- the way we shot it was that I -- when it came in really close, I lunged up and bit his nose, which they cut.

PHILLIPS: Why did they cut it?

CROSS: I don't know. Maybe they thought it was just a little bit too vicious.

PHILLIPS: A little too psycho?

CROSS: Yes, it was a little -- and that was OK with me.

PHILLIPS: Well, you look at a scene like that, and you think, wow, Marcia, I'm really got a degree in psychology in college. Does that help?

CROSS: Oh, my gosh, I'm always in the nut house.

PHILLIPS: You've never gotten out, right?

CROSS: No, it was the same exact location I had shot for "Melrose." So I'm -- oh, my god, deja vu.

PHILLIPS: The memories. Yes, there was a lot of nutty stuff going on in that show, too. That's so funny, everyone in the make-up room, remember "Melrose Place"? Oh, yes, remember this episode? I think they were talking more about that than "Desperate Housewives," but they watch both. Well, you definitely landed the perfect gig. I mean, you must wake up every morning and pinch yourself. I mean, this is every actor's dream, to land something like this.

CROSS: Yes. I'm one of the most grateful people on the planet, without a doubt. Yes, you just -- first of all, incredible show, incredible writing, then it's a hit. You know, then I meet the man of my dreams. I'm, like, whoa. This is all like a fairy tale right now.

PHILLIPS: Let's jump up to that. You brought it up. What the heck, let's talk about Mr. Mahoney here. A stock broker, is that right?

CROSS: Well, no. He's actually in wealth management at UBS.

PHILLIPS: Oh, OK, all right. They're getting it wrong in the papers. Wealth management.

CROSS: Well, first he was the hunky actor, which was really fun for a while. PHILLIPS: Oh, that's (INAUDIBLE) -- no, no, he's an actor. I said no, no, I think he's in banking. Well, hey, both are pretty good. How did you guys meet?

CROSS: I met him in a flower shop. I was sort of drawn to him, and then we kind of were introduced.

PHILLIPS: So it's one of those romantic stories?

CROSS: I let him my phone numbers. What happened? The only reason I tell it now is because David Letterman got it out of me, and I feel like well, it's out. So...

PHILLIPS: Now you have to tell the truth.

CROSS: Yes, that's what happened.

PHILLIPS: Oh, good, I don't have to pull that hard if David already got it out of you.

CROSS: No, David -- yes.

PHILLIPS: So, you saw him in the flower shop, you gave him your number. Did he ever end up buying you flowers that day?

CROSS: Oh, he -- not that day, because I ran out of the shop. I actually left it with someone else. But he sends me flowers from that particular flower shop all the time. So...

PHILLIPS: Oh, he's a true romantic.

CROSS: Yes, he is, very romantic.

PHILLIPS: And the wedding is next month.

CROSS: Coming, yes. Yes.

PHILLIPS: Are you excited?

CROSS: I am. There's still a lot to do. I am not anything like my character. So things are still a bit in disarray. I have yet to, like, you know, pick out the cake or -- I'm just slow.

PHILLIPS: That's OK. You can take your time.

CROSS: I'll get there.

PHILLIPS: That's right, you will get there. Don't stress about it, OK? We can all offer counseling if you need some help. No, wait a minute, you're the one with the psychology degree.

All right. Back to your character. I mean, you're hysterical, you're crazed, but you're also a very fierce parent. Let's take a look at this clip.

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP, "DESPERATE HOUSEWIVES") CROSS: I'm serious. Go!

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: What's wrong with you? I'm going to shoot you!

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Matthew, stop it!

CROSS: If that's what it takes to get my daughter...

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Stop it!

CROSS: ... to see who you really are...

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Stop pointing that at my mother!

CROSS: ... then fine.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: What are you doing?

CROSS: Do it.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Stop.

(END VIDEO CLIP, "DESPERATE HOUSEWIVES")

PHILLIPS: Wow. Are you ready to be a parent, Marcia?

CROSS: That would be lovely. I have to say, my two kids on the show are the most fantastic young humans ever. I mean, I just love them. That's one of the great perks of my job.

PHILLIPS: Well, talk about preparing you to really be a parent, I mean, you've dealt with everything from homosexuality, to running away to, oh, my gosh, it's -- it's incredible. So you obviously would make a great parent. It's obvious if you watch the show.

CROSS: She's a great parent. So maybe I'll do better than she did. Who knows? Or worse. Let's hope not. But -- yes.

PHILLIPS: Is it hard to get in that mindset?

CROSS: What?

PHILLIPS: Of being a parent?

CROSS: No. I mean, obviously, I am not one, so I -- it's an experience I have yet to have. But I think that, you know, the depth of love is something I can, you know, relate to in my own way. And probably more profoundly if I, you know, do have children of my own.

But I love them desperately right now. My son, everybody's always like, "Your son!" And Sean (ph) is so wonderful. And Joy (ph), that you just saw in that scene is -- they're just great. And they're really fine actors, and regular, loving kids. So...

PHILLIPS: And it all started in the sixth grade. What was the name of the play? Let's see, it was "The Witch of Blackbird Pond."

CROSS: "The Witch of Blackbird Pond," yes.

PHILLIPS: That's when you knew what you wanted to do.

CROSS: Yes, I sort of got the bug. It was a play about the Salem witch trials, and the acting teacher, you know, really pushed me to perform, which I finally did. And then I -- in high school, I had a really wonderful drama teacher named Betsy Joseph (ph), who really was the, you know, guiding force in those formative years. She took me to New York, and I saw my first play.

PHILLIPS: What was your first play?

CROSS: In New York, we saw "A Chorus Line".

PHILLIPS: Oh, really?

CROSS: We went to Sardis and went to the World Trade Center and Serendipity's. And she did the whole, you know, "This could be your life."

PHILLIPS: Well, now we've got to get your caricature up in Sardis, right? All the famous actors.

CROSS: Maybe when I do some plays, you know, later.

PHILLIPS: Yes, there you go. Broadway maybe? You might think about doing that?

CROSS: I would love to. I think as...

PHILLIPS: I mean, you did so much theater.

CROSS: Yes. I really would.

I joked with someone the other day when they were saying, "Are you going to do movies?" And I said, "I don't have time to be a movie star."

I mean, just because between doing the show and getting married and trying to have a personal life, I mean, there's only so much you can do. And I want to have a family. So at some point in your life you have to make choices. So I'll be a very old character actress on stage, probably.

PHILLIPS: You're preaching to the choir. Yes.

CROSS: And that's fine.

PHILLIPS: Yes, you'll do that it in your off time.

CROSS: Yes. It's OK with me.

PHILLIPS: Well, you mentioned all the things that you're involved with. Now you're traveling around, talking about migraines. Boy, talk about a switch. Well, I guess, no, headaches would go well with "Desperate Housewives," especially if you're drinking a lot of wine, as you do -- as your character.

CROSS: Yes, she does.

PHILLIPS: Why are you -- tell me about that, your experience and why you're talking about this.

CROSS: Well, I had my first migraine when I was 14. Of course, I didn't know what it was.

I went down to the school nurse. And I had tingling in my fingers. And my vision was really funky. And actually, they told me to call my mother, and I couldn't remember my phone number.

My mother was at school teaching anyway, so it didn't really make sense. But they eventually took me home, and I was just in bed in the most excruciating pain.

And then I got them somewhat through high school, and then college. And then eventually I was diagnosed with -- you know, you have classic migraine.

And then there was a drug called Imitrex that came on the market. And I started taking that and keeping that with me at all times. And that sort of started to turn my world around. That, and I also started to keep a food diary, so I found out what triggers, you know, precipitate it.

PHILLIPS: The reaction.

CROSS: You know, for me it's chocolate and red wine and lots of good things.

PHILLIPS: Oh, yes, all the good things in life.

CROSS: So I stay -- exactly. I stay away from those. And then I, you know, started taking (INAUDIBLE) and hiking and just really trying to keep my equilibrium...

PHILLIPS: Relaxation.

CROSS: And now they're fewer and fewer, which is rare. Usually as a woman gets older, they become more frequent. So I'm just really happy that I've managed to get them under control.

PHILLIPS: All right. And there's actually a Web site you can go to, right, the headachequiz.com. What can folks find out about on that?

CROSS: Right. Well, if they go to that web site, headachequiz.com, they can take a quiz. And they don't have to self- diagnose. They can take that to their doctor and present their symptoms and let the doctor diagnose for them, because lot of people think, oh, it's a sinus headache, it's a tension headache. And, in fact, it is a migraine, and they can get help. So it's a really helpful Web site.

PHILLIPS: Thank you so much.

CROSS: Thank you.

PHILLIPS: And we look forward to the next number of episodes and your wedding. Please update us.

CROSS: Yes. I will.

PHILLIPS: Give us the scoop on how it all goes, all right? If you get worried, just give us a call. We've all been there, we've done that. It's a pleasure to talk to you.

CROSS: It's so nice to meet you.

PHILLIPS: Thank you.

Well, first comes the photo op, then down to business. It's Ehud Olmert's first trip to the White House as Israeli prime minister. And the agenda may not be long, but it's heavy.

CNN's Ed Henry has more.

Hey, Ed.

ED HENRY, CNN WHITE HOUSE CORRESPONDENT: Good afternoon, Kyra.

That's right, Prime Minister Olmert really pressing a variety of U.S. officials, starting the day with Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld, about his plan to withdraw from most of the Jewish settlements on the West Bank. The meeting with Secretary Rumsfeld in advance of an Oval Office meeting 3:00 Eastern Time today. They will also -- the prime minister and President Bush will be available to the media together at 5:00 Eastern Time.

U.S. officials are urging a go-slow approach on the prime minister's plan, fearful that imposing a West Bank settlement on the Palestinians really could -- could make the Mideast peace process even more difficult at this sensitive time. The Bush administration also pressing the prime minister, urging him to negotiate with the Palestinian president, Mr. Abbas, rather than going through the Hamas- dominated Palestinian Authority.

Take a listen to White House Press Secretary Tony Snow.

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TONY SNOW, WHITE HOUSE PRESS SECRETARY: What we're going to do is we're reiterating our concern that we get two-party talks that lead ultimately to final status negotiations along the roadmap to peace. I mean, I know I'm using all the jargon here, but that's exactly what we're doing one step at a time. But let me also back up, because the meeting with Prime Minister Olmert really is in many ways a "getting to know you" session. (END VIDEO CLIP)

HENRY: But Prime Minister Olmert has been making the case that ever since Hamas, the terror group, was elected and took over the Palestinian government, that Israel feels it no longer has a partner in peace, and they do not feel that President Abbas really has the power or the authority to negotiate directly with Israel. And that's why they may have to act unilaterally in this situation -- Kyra.

PHILLIPS: Well, looking at the situation and how volatile it is, I mean, Olmert and Bush, they've got to form some type of honest and profound relationship for anything to happen overseas.

HENRY: You're absolutely right. Critical relationship, especially now more than ever.

Iran, obviously, and Iran's thirst for nuclear weapons, another key issue here. Iran already vowing that they want to wipe Israel off the map altogether.

These two leaders working together will be critical. We know there was chemistry between former Prime Minister Sharon and President Bush. President Bush has only really met Prime Minister Olmert once before. It was many years ago when the president was actually the governor of Texas. Mr. Olmert was the mayor of Jerusalem.

Obviously, a lot of eyes on whether they can develop chemistry themselves -- Kyra.

PHILLIPS: All right, Ed. Speaking of chemistry, we can never pass up a moment to talk about Tony Snow. I know you've always got a little tidbit. We've got to name this somehow the "Tony Snow Moment" or -- he got some type of gift today?

HENRY: Yes. Well, you know, he was really getting into it with Helen Thomas. A lot of people know that she's been a tough critic of this administration. And after they argued for a bit in the televised briefing, a few moments ago Helen Thomas offered up an apple.

And Tony Snow laughed and first and then jumped from behind the podium and ran up and grabbed the apple and joked to everyone, "I never thought Helen Thomas would be sucking up to me." Another example how he's trying to use humor in the briefing. You know, we'll see how long the honeymoon lasts, if you will -- Kyra.

PHILLIPS: You always give the teacher an apple on the first day. That's what I keep thinking, right? And it's nice and shiny, too.

HENRY: But he didn't take a bite out of it. So...

PHILLIPS: And he doesn't have the coffee cup up there either, the old dingy cup.

HENRY: That's right, he took it away.

PHILLIPS: All right. We're making progress. Thanks, Ed Henry.

HENRY: Thank you.

PHILLIPS: Well, they've searched his home, even felt around in his freezer, but did FBI agents cross the line when they stepped into Congressman William Jefferson's Capitol Hill office? Some of his colleagues think so, even though Jefferson's the target of a bribery probe.

Let's get straight to Capitol Hill and Dana Bash for the latest -- Dana.

DANA BASH, CNN CONGRESSIONAL CORRESPONDENT: Well, Kyra, you would think that allegations that a congressman stuffed $90,000 in his freezer would be enough to keep a story going, but remarkably, the story line has changed dramatically on the Hill today, and that is what you just mentioned, that Republicans and Democrats alike, but even more interestingly, Republicans, say that they are upset about the fact that his congressional office was raided.

Meanwhile, the congressman himself still maintains he's doing his job and he won't resign.

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BASH (voice over): Congressman William Jefferson came back to Washington at his Capitol office the FBI raided over the weekend and insisted he is innocent.

REP. WILLIAM JEFFERSON (D), LOUISIANA: There are two sides to every story. There are certainly two sides to this story.

BASH: FBI agents spent 18 hours in Jefferson's office, hunting overnight for evidence to back a bribery case the government's been building for 14 months against the eight-term Democrat. The congressman, who hasn't been charged with anything, won't tell his side of the story now.

JEFFERSON: My lawyers have advised me not to discuss, and I will not discuss any of the alleged facts in the case.

BASH: But the government is telling its side of the story. This 82-page affidavit alleges Jefferson directly and through his family members took more than $400,000 in bribes, plus an ownership stake in several companies, and used his office to help a small telecommunications company he had a stake in secure business in Nigeria and Ghana.

The court documents say federal investigators secretly videotaped the congressman outside this Virginia hotel taking $100,000 in $100 bills from a businesswoman-turned-FBI informant, according to a government official. When FBI agents raided his Washington, D.C., home three days later, they found $90,000 of that cash stuffed in a freezer in "various frozen food containers and wrapped in aluminum foil." The breathtaking narrative details multiple taped conversations with the informant, including Jefferson at one point laughing as he says, "All these damn notes we're writing to each other as if we're talking, as if the FBI is watching."

Jefferson even allegedly brokered corrupt deals in the congressional dining room, telling the informant that if he helped her company, he wanted his daughters to get "five to seven percent ownership."

JEFFERSON: I expect to continue to represent the people who have sent me here.

BASH: The congressman says he won't resign despite private pressure from Democratic leaders who want to make corruption a campaign issue against Republicans. And he accused the FBI of crossing a constitutional line in raiding his congressional office.

JEFFERSON: No one has seen this in all the time of the life of the Congress. As far as I know, there's no real authority for it.

BASH: Searching a sitting lawmaker's office was unprecedented, and even Republicans are raising red flags.

SEN. BILL FRIST (R-TN), MAJORITY LEADER: It's concerning to me, and I have asked our counsel to advise us as to what a proper course of action is.

BASH: The attorney general defended the move.

ALBERTO GONZALES, ATTORNEY GENERAL: I will admit that these were unusual steps that were taken in response to an unusual set of circumstances.

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BASH: But that was not enough to placate really angry Republicans here on the Hill about how the White House -- I should say the Justice Department, the Bush Justice Department, handled that. The House speaker essentially said that in 219 years, this has never happened. And in his view, what he knows as the facts, it shouldn't have happened in this case -- Kyra.

PHILLIPS: All right. Dana Bash live on the Hill -- thanks.

Five deadly shootings in 15 hours, and that was just the beginning. It was a terrifying three weeks of 2002. What everyone thought was a sniper was actually two snipers picking their victims at random. A man mowing his lawn, a woman waiting for the bus, people pumping gas, a man walking down the street.

Before John Allen Muhammad and Lee Boyd Malvo were arrested, 10 people were dead. Six in Montgomery County, Maryland. And that's where Muhammad is on trial, where today Malvo is testifying against him. He described Muhammad as the man who took him under his wing when he was 15 and later talked about wanting to kill perfect strangers, six people a day for 30 days.

Later, Muhammad, who's representing himself, will have a chance to cross-examine Malvo, a young man he still calls his son. Our Kathleen Koch is in the courtroom. We're going to continue to check in with her throughout a couple of hours.

The news keeps coming. We'll keep bringing it to you.

More LIVE FROM next.

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PHILLIPS: Tony Harris working a developing story for us in the newsroom.

What you got, Tony?

TONY HARRIS, CNN ANCHOR: Kyra, we want to take you to Covington, Georgia, not far from where we are, and give you a look at some aerial pictures of a McDonald's restaurant. It will come into view here in just a second.

The parking lot of this McDonald's and Covington police confirm -- want to take a moment here and just walk through this slowly. This is still developing.

Covington police confirmed that a man identified by police as 36- year-old Lanny Terry Barnes (ph) has been arrested in connection with an attack in the parking lot of this restaurant. Police say the man attacked several children -- don't know how many -- and at least two adults, hitting them with the vehicle he was driving.

Now, don't know if this vehicle was an SUV, a car. No word yet on how seriously the victims were injured. No motive at this point, but once again, Covington police confirming that an arrest has been made.

The man has been identified as 36-year-old Lanny Terry Barnes (ph), in connection with an attack here in the parking lot of a McDonald's restaurant. You see police there on the scene working the scene. Police say the man attacked several children and two adults, hitting them with the vehicle he was driving.

We will continue to follow this story, Kyra. And our thanks to our affiliate providing these aerial pictures, WSB, here in Atlanta.

We'll get more information and bring it to you -- Kyra.

PHILLIPS: All right. Just let us know. Thanks, Tony.

HARRIS: Sure. Sure.

PHILLIPS: Well, prosecutors aren't done with John Gotti, Jr. They have indicted the reputed mobster for a third time in New York. Gotti, whose last two trials ended in hung juries, is expected to be arraigned tomorrow. A federal indictment alleges Gotti's life in crime began in the mid '80s. Charges include murder and racketeering. The key part of the case is the allegation that the son of the so-called "Teflon Don" ordered an attack on radio host Curtis Sliwa.

Well, a search continues for another man with reputed mob ties. The FBI has been digging up a horse farm in Michigan for almost a week searching for the remains of former Teamsters' leader Jimmy Hoffa, who disappeared in 1975.

They're acting on a tip from a 75-year-old federal inmate. A barn-size tent has been set up on the property. Agents have said they might have to remove a horse barn to just dig under it.

And what do rock star Bono, former president Jimmy Carter and this woman have in common? Well, they're all trying to end poverty. Dr. Helene Gayle, just back from war-torn Afghanistan, will show us how she's confronting the world's problems as she takes on being the head of CARE.

LIVE FROM back after this.

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PHILLIPS: Well, rewind your clocks about, oh, I don't know, 400 years, and this is how some of our ancestors arrived in America. A replica of the ship Godspeed set sail on the James River yesterday to commemorate the first settlers' arrival at Jamestown.

Now, over the next 80 days, you can see the Godspeed at ports along the East Coast, and there will be a landing party in each city. More events will be planned next year to celebrate the 400th anniversary of the Jamestown, Virginia, settlement.

Well, stocks have been mired in a steep sell-off for the last two weeks. So is today the day the market turns around?

Susan Lisovicz is live from the New York Stock Exchange with some answers.

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