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Congressman William Jefferson Tries to Get Back Some Property During FBI Raid; The Fight for Iraq; Bill Gates' New Focus

Aired June 16, 2006 - 13:59   ET

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KYRA PHILLIPS, CNN ANCHOR: He hasn't been charged, but today he's discharged from the House Ways and Means Committee. Louisiana Democrat William Jefferson stripped from that powerful panel, at least while he's under investigation for bribery. The full House acted with a quick and unanimous voice vote.
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UNIDENTIFIED MALE: For what purpose does the gentleman from South Carolina rise?

REP. JAMES CLYBURN (D), SOUTH CAROLINA: Mr. Speaker, by the direction of the Democratic Caucus, I offer you a privileged (ph) resolution and ask for its immediate consideration.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: The clerk will report the resolution.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: House Resolution 872 resolved that Mr. Jefferson is hereby removed from the Committee on Ways and Means.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Is there an objection to the resolution?

Without objection, the resolution is adopted.

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PHILLIPS: Well, at a court hearing in Washington this hour, Jefferson is trying to get back some of his property that was taken during an FBI raid.

Our Justice correspondent, Kelli Arena, has more on that -- Kelli.

KELLI ARENA, CNN JUSTICE CORRESPONDENT: Kyra, that's right, the congressman wants the documents and computer files that were taken out of his office back on May 20th. Now, he claims that the search that was conducted by the FBI was unconstitutional, but the government says that no one is above the law and that their actions did not amount to an unreasonable search and seizure. So, a judge is hearing arguments from both sides today and should decide some time in the near future.

PHILLIPS: Didn't the president order those materials held for 45 days? And how does the hearing affect that?

ARENA: Well, that's right, he did. It doesn't. It doesn't affect it at all because they're totally separate actions. If this judge orders those materials returned, then they have to be returned. But as you know, Kyra, they're currently being held in the solicitor general's office. They're not available for either side until July 9th. So no one has looked at them.

The president said that he hoped that the two sides could reach some sort of compromise while those documents were being held. So far, that hasn't happened.

PHILLIPS: So Jefferson hasn't even been indicted yet. Why?

ARENA: Well, that's right. I mean, our sources say that the investigation into his activities continues. They're not offering any reason as to why we have not seen an indictment up to this point. But as you know, Kyra, the FBI claims that it videotapes the congressman last summer allegedly taking $100,000 in bribe money. Agents say that they later found $90,000 of that money stashed in one of Jefferson's freezers.

Now, Jefferson, you know, hasn't been indicted, but a former aide to the congressman and then a businessman who admitted paying bribes to Jefferson have both pleaded guilty. So this investigation, lots of tentacles, still very much under away.

PHILLIPS: And the whole thing nearly blew up when several people threatened to resign over this. Where does that stand?

ARENA: Well, that's right. You had the attorney general, you had the deputy attorney general, and the FBI director all giving very strong hints that if they were forced to give back those documents that were taken in that search, that they were ready to walk.

Now, no one officially, you know, said to the president, you know, "We're out of here." But they went through aides and they made it very clear to the president that they were willing to take that strong a stand, which -- which a lot of people say was the reason why the president decided -- you know, opted for this cooling off period. You know, stick them in the solicitor general's office, you know, let's try to work out a deal.

PHILLIPS: Justice Correspondent Kelli Arena.

Thanks, Kelli.

ARENA: You're welcome, Kyra.

PHILLIPS: Together Forward, with a few steps back. Despite that security crackdown in Baghdad, Operation Together Forward now in its third day. A suicide bomber walks into a Shiite mosque and blew himself up during Friday prayers. Eleven people are dead, two dozen hurt.

Elsewhere, five children died in Baquba today when a house next door exploded causing their roof to collapse.

And another day, another congressional debate on Iraq. Today it was the House's turn by a 256-153 vote. Republicans prevailed on a resolution supporting the war and opposing an early pullout of U.S. troops. Before the vote, the depth of the disagreement was obvious.

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REP. PATRICK MCHENRY (R), NORTH CAROLINA: They're advocating a policy called cut and run. They're advocating a policy of waving the white flag to our enemies. It is a policy, Mr. Speaker, make no mistake about it, that the left in this country are advocating.

But we are fighting a war. We are fighting a war against Islamic extremists that hate the very fiber of our being as Americans.

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REP. JOHN MURTHA (D), PENNSYLVANIA: When I hear somebody standing here sanctimoniously saying, "We're going to fight this out," we're not fighting at all. It's the troops that are doing the fighting, the families are doing the sacrificing. A very small proportion of the families in this country are doing the sacrificing. And that's why I get so upset when they stand here sanctimoniously saying, "We're fighting this thing."

It's the troops that are doing the fighting, not the members of Congress that are doing the fighting.

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PHILLIPS: Today's resolution is non-binding, but with midterm elections just five months away, the vote puts members on record for or against the war.

Now Iraq's government, the Bush administration and their allies are hoping the death of Abu Musab al-Zarqawi will clear the way for stability, even peace. Insurgents, of course, have other ideas.

Here's CNN's Arwa Damon.

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ARWA DAMON, CNN CORRESPONDENT (voice over): Even with the al Qaeda leader Abu Musab al-Zarqawi dead, insurgent attacks killed more than 118 Iraqis in the last week. Some in bombings, some in drive-by shootings, and some in kidnapped killings.

Five days after Zarqawi was killed by two U.S. 500-pound bombs, al Qaeda in Iraq announced a successor, Sheikh Abu Hamza al-Muhajer. The U.S. military in Baghdad suspects that's just another name for this man, Abu Ayyub al-Masri, a senior and experienced leader of al Qaeda in Iraq.

MAJ. GEN. WILLIAM CALDWELL, MILITARY SPOKESMAN: Al-Masri's intimate knowledge of al Qaeda in Iraq and his close relationship with the operations will undoubtedly help facilitate and enable them to regain some momentum if, in fact, he's the one that assumes the leadership role.

DAMON: But how much command and control al-Masri will have over the insurgency is unclear.

A series of intelligence coups led to the detention of more than 750 suspected insurgents in the last few days, but no signs yet the violence is decreasing. In fact, the U.S. military says it fully expects al Qaeda and the insurgency to reconstitute themselves to morph and adapt, as they have many times in the past.

Arwa Damon, CNN, Atlanta.

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PHILLIPS: Fifty thousand dollars for a stolen computer. It's not just any computer, it's a Veterans Administration laptop.

You'll remember it was taken from a VA employee's home last month. Well, that machine contains the names and Social Security numbers of 26 million past and present military men and women. Police don't think that the thief or thieves knew what they were stealing, or the potential for monumental identity theft, but they hope the fat reward will bring that data back.

Microsoft minus Bill Gates, it's hard to imagine, but the richest man in the world is moving from the frontlines in the computer industry to the forefront of the global fight against disease and poverty. Gates says he's reordering his priorities.

CNN's Ali Velshi has more.

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ALI VELSHI, CNN CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): Bill Gates is America's foremost entrepreneur. But back in 1980, just 25 years old and in business just five years, history knocked on his door.

IBM chose his little software company to supply an operating system for something called the personal computer.

Six years later, Microsoft went public, making Gates the world's first software billionaire, and later, the world's richest man.

By 1999, Bill Gates was worth more than $100 billion.

His success and gnus made him a hero to some. But to others, Microsoft had become the evil empire, unfair and anti-competitive. In 1998, Microsoft was charged with using its size and power to stifle competition.

Gates stepped aside as CEO in 2000, but stayed on as chairman. And he remains the company's biggest shareholder. It sounded a lot like retirement back then. So at the ripe old age of 50, is he retiring again?

BILL GATES, MICROSOFT CHAIRMAN: The change we're announcing today is not a retirement. It's a reordering of my priorities.

VELSHI: Last year, Gates was named one of "Time" magazine's Persons of the Year for his charitable work. He and his wife Melinda run-the world's biggest philanthropic organization. Gates has donated more than half his fortune to it, and that's where he'll turn all his attention when he leaves Microsoft.

Back in March, I spoke to him about one of the foundation's goals -- improving the quality of education worldwide.

GATES: Virtually all the jobs in the future will require college type education. And so the whole shift in the economy means it's not just the Microsofts and Orbitzes (ph), it's every job in this economy will require that. Education is a complex topic. It's one of the two focuses my foundation has. It's something I'm very passionate about.

VELSHI: There are 10 billion shares of Microsoft out there. You might own a few of them in your 401K or your IRA, and if you don't, you probably own or work at one of the billion computers that run- Windows.

What does this change mean to you?

Probably nothing. You're just watching another piece of history unfold.

Ali Velshi, CNN, New York.

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PHILLIPS: A phony case of cancer. One woman made up the diagnosis to get sympathy gifts -- a big-screen TV, a tropical vacation. Well, see what she's getting now.

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PHILLIPS: Well, a former teacher in Massachusetts clearly did not believe that if you've got your health you've got everything. She's headed to prison for scamming friends out of more than $35,000 for pretending that she had cancer.

We get the story now from Jim Boyd of CNN affiliate WCVB in Boston.

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JIM BOYD, WCVB-TV REPORTER (voice-over): Twenty-seven-year-old Heather Faria stood silently, staring straight ahead, as the words determining her fate echoed throughout the courtroom.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: It is the order of the court that you be punished by confinement to the house of correction for a term of two years committed.

BOYD: The former special education teacher pleaded guilty to larceny and fraud. She had played on the sympathies of those who cared about her, telling them in 2003 she had stomach cancer and had to choose between buying either food or expensive treatments.

TED HAHN, TEACHER: And she took money from the kids. She took money from the teachers. The teachers walked up and gave her cash so that she could you know help survive. And here she is in one of the islands having a great party.

BOYD: Her attorney says Faria initially believed she did have cancer after her doctor spotted a lump on her arm. But even after learning otherwise, she continued to accept up to $37,000 in charity.

CHERYL MARSHALL, FARIA'S COLLEGE ROOMMATE: I could never understand why she didn't let me visit her in the hospital. Now I know that is because she never was hospitalized.

BOYD: Faria admits deceiving her friends. She says that she spent the money on a vacation in St. Martin, on jewelry and a giant screen TV.

ELAINE PHANEUF, CANCER SURVIVOR: I have never seen any remorse. I have never seen or heard a sorry or nothing, nothing.

BOYD: But Faria did have supporters.

"HELEN," FARIA'S AUNT: She is not a bad person. She's always been a wonderful girl. And everybody at the school loved her as a teacher.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: All rise.

BOYD: Faria resigned from Dighton-Rehoboth High School in June of last year after her deception became known.

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PHILLIPS: Well, Heather Faria will be eligible for parole in about a year. She'll have to pay back that $37,000.

Pittsburgh Steeler Ben Roethlisberger has a message for his family, fans and teammates. He's sorry.

The Super Bowl-winning quarterback suffered serious facial injuries Monday when he crashed his motorcycle. He wasn't wearing a helmet.

In a statement, Roethlisberger says, "I recognize that I have a responsibility to safeguard my health in the off-season so I can continue to lead our team effectively. I never meant any harm to others nor to break any laws. I was confident in my ability to ride a motorcycle and simply believed such an accident would not happen to me. If I ever ride again, it certainly will be with a helmet."

Roethlisberger was released from the hospital Wednesday night. He says he hopes to be ready when training camp opens this summer.

Desperate people traveling halfway around the world and paying huge fees for organ transplants. But where are the organs coming from? Coming up, what some say is China's dark secret.

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PHILLIPS: So Hooters wants to make it up to FEMA. The restaurant chain, like the rest of us, learned this week that hundreds of people bilked the government out of hundreds of millions of dollars in disaster aid for victims of Hurricane Katrina. Part of the bogus spending included Dom Perignon champagne bought with FEMA relief money at a Hooters in San Antonio.

Well, Hooters chair, Bob Brooks, says that's not right, and he plans to mail FEMA a check for $200.

A developing story involves Delta Airlines.

Susan Lisovicz live from the New York Stock Exchange with all the details.

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PHILLIPS: Well, at Arlington National Cemetery, Army horses bring tradition and dignity to military funerals. But now the Army's horses have a new mission. We're going to tell you about when LIVE FROM continues.

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UNIDENTIFIED MALE: How are you doing? My name is Sergeant Melvin Carter (ph). I'm coming from outside Iraq. I would like to wish my dad, Melvin McPherson (ph), a happy Father's Day, and as well as all the fathers in the family.

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UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Hey, this is Major Dan Harvey (ph) out here with Regimental Combat Team 5 in Camp Falluja, Iraq. Just want to wish my dad, Dave Harvey (ph), a happy Father's Day down there in Warrenton, Pennsylvania.

Hope you're having a great day. I'll get back soon, and we'll get out there on the golf course.

All right. Thanks. Take care.

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UNIDENTIFIED MALE: This is PFC Joseph Rucherchar (ph) stationed with 2nd Recon Battalion in Falluja, Iraq. I want to wish my father Ceril Rucherchar (ph) in Pittsburgh, PA., a happy Father's Day.

I love you. I miss you. And I'll be home soon.

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PHILLIPS: Twenty-five hundred U.S. troops have been killed in Iraq, but there's another important number to keep in mind. More than 18,000 troops have been wounded. Treatment and rehab take many forms, including a very unique program at an Army fort just outside Washington.

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PHILLIPS (voice over): Since the earliest days of the U.S. Army there have been soldiers on horseback. Years ago, they road horses into battle, but these modern-day soldiers are coming home from the war.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: We'll give it a couple more times there.

PHILLIPS: The 3d United States Infantry, better known as the Old Guard, provides the horses and riders for military funerals at Arlington National Cemetery. But in recent months, the Old Guard has taken on another role, a role on behalf of the living.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: They took my leg in Baghdad. I knew -- I knew while I was still in Ramadi that I was going to lose my leg.

PHILLIPS: This is called therapeutic riding. Disabled soldiers from Walter Reed Army Medical Center visit Fort Myer in Virginia, where the Old Guard's Caisson Platoon has its stables.

Three injured soldiers are learning to master their disabilities on horseback. Trainer Mary Jo Beckham helped conceive the program.

MARY JO BECKHAM, TRAINER: It becomes very fundamental for them to have to use what they call the core strength of their bodies, which are the abdominal muscles, the lower back muscles, holding their bodies in a straight position in a midline. And so, by riding a horse and sitting in the middle of the horse, they're using that core strength.

SPC. MAXWELL RAMSEY, U.S. ARMY: It does help with your balance. You're not using a saddle or anything, so you're balancing with your hips and your pelvis and trying to use your stomach muscles more.

They've had me ride the same horse every week that I've been here. I won't say that I've bonded with Wiley (ph) as much as really just we have an understanding. He's stubborn and I'm going it ride him. It's kind of like, you know, seeing the same doctor every week or something like that.

PHILLIPS: These soldiers may never go to war again, but by riding these horses they're preparing for the challenges they may face for the rest of their lives. Soldiers still riding horses into the battles they are yet to face.

RAMSEY: It's the army taking care of its own. That speaks volumes to me.

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PHILLIPS: Well, after watching Specialist Maxwell ride at Fort Myer just two weeks ago, we wanted to get an update. So we asked him to join us today from our Washington studios.

Actually, it's Ramsey is the last name. Maxwell is the first name.

You've got two last names, but it's easier just to say Max.

How are you, Max?

RAMSEY: Doing very well. How are you?

PHILLIPS: Great.

Listen, I tell you what, you think about these horses and what they do. I mean, they add dignity for the dead in a funeral. Yet, it's amazing to think you were one of the lucky ones, you survived. You're back here and you're trying to get life back.

Do you think about that when you're, you know, riding Wiley and going through this therapy?

RAMSEY: You know, one thing actually that continuously I remind myself about is that the Old Guard is letting us use their horses. The Old Guard is just the shining tip of what the Army represents for this country. Everything they do is so perfect and so perfectly disciplined.

Their horses are an integral part of what they do, and they're going to let me, who's disabled, ride him bareback. So there's -- that's how I look at it. I'm supremely honored that they let us ride the horses to begin with, and the therapy seems to work, in my mind.

PHILLIPS: Well, take me back to Iraq. Tell me what happened, Max.

RAMSEY: March 1st, I was the radio man for a platoon-level mission with my unit in Ramadi, Iraq. I'm with Charlie Company, first battalion of the 506th infantry, part of the 101st airborne. And we were exiting the area after we had finished the first part of the mission and a command detonated IED was detonated underneath my IED -- or underneath my humvee, and I was injured there.

PHILLIPS: Did you know, as soon as it happened, you just had a feeling that you lost your leg or possibly both of them?

RAMSEY: No. I knew that my ankle was broken and I knew that my knee on my left leg was horribly damaged, because I felt the impact as we were lifted off the ground by the blast. And as they had strapped up our humvee to be towed back to the aid station the medic was getting in the humvee with me, I caught a glimpse just from the ambient light and I knew that the injury was unrepairable. And so I spent that time in the helicopter ride into Baghdad just coming to terms with myself that I was going to lose the leg and to make sure that I was ready for the next challenge.

PHILLIPS: Wow. And what was it like to take your first step, to get the prosthetic and start the therapy and actually stand on two feet again?

RAMSEY: The first day I walked, I was excited. It was not easy. It's difficult to learn to walk again when you're an adult. And the -- you know, I was all excited and happy to be walking during that day. But at the end of the day, when I got back to my room, I had a good cry to remind myself of, you know, what I have yet to accomplish. And, you know, to continue to move forward.

PHILLIPS: Well, in addition to the therapy, you've got your wife Ayako (ph). She's been right there by your side and been extremely supportive, hasn't she?

RAMSEY: Yes, she's been here since day one. Literally, she was here the day after I arrived at Walter Reed. Actually, she got into D.C. the night of my arrival. And other than going home every now and again to check up on her cats, the -- she's been here the whole time.

PHILLIPS: What do you think is so much different about this therapy, riding these horses versus another type of therapy? I mean, the type that we always see with the doctors on the treadmill, you know?

RAMSEY: Yes. The one -- I think there's a couple things to it. One, it gets you out of the clinical environment of the hospital or the physical therapy area. And that's not a negative area to be to begin with, but to get outside, get some fresh air. And you have a slightly unpredictable dynamic with the horse. Anybody that's ridden motorcycles, think of -- you know, think of a horse as being not totally under your control.

And the feeling of being able to, you know, have some kind of a bond, you know, rider, ridden bond, between a horse and a rider. And to get an understanding of how you can loosely control that and use your muscles to balance yourself on top of the animal while he's trotting along or walking along.

And I said it in a previous interview, the army taking care of its own is just, you know, very important factor, as well. The fact that, you know, Mary Jo was able to come up with the program and the fact that we found willing participants with the Caisson Platoon. They're just a great bunch of guys.

PHILLIPS: Well, Wiley takes care of you and you take care of Wiley. It's a two-way street.

RAMSEY: Yes, Wiley is missing an eye, too, so...

PHILLIPS: Really? OK. So you guys have something in common. You're helping each other. I love it.

RAMSEY: Yes, exactly.

PHILLIPS: Specialist Ramsey, Max, thanks so much.

RAMSEY: Thank you very much.

PHILLIPS: Appreciate it.

President Bush is meeting the parents of Marine Corporal Jeffrey B. Starr in Seattle today. Star was killed by small arms fire near Ramadi, Iraq, on Memorial Day last year. Star had left a note for his fiance in case he was killed in action. The note touched President Bush so much that he read it in a speech.

It reads in part, "Everybody dies, but few get to do it for something as important as freedom. It may seem confusing why we are in Iraq. It's not to me. I'm here helping these people so they can live the way we live, not to have to worry about tyrants or vicious dictators, to do what they want with their lives. To me, that is why I died. Others have died for my freedom. Now this is my mark."

Starr is one of 2,500 men and women who have lost their marks and given their lives in Iraq.

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PHILLIPS: Soccer, soccer, soccer, everywhere. If you're not a fan, too bad. It's the World Cup, baby, and these guys are right in the spirit. They're not world class, but, well, they flew all the way to Germany from New York City. The bond between firefighters is that strong. A report, coming from Berlin, next.

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PHILLIPS: Well, it looks like two rounds. And Tiger Woods, well, I guess he's out of it at the U.S. Open. Our Larry Smith has an update from Winged Foot Golf Club in New York -- Larry?

LARRY SMITH, CNN SPORTS CORRESPONDENT: Well, Kyra, you know, Tiger himself pretty much conceded the fact that he's not going to play this weekend. It will be the first time he ever missed the cut on a major. There is still a slim chance. You must be within ten shots of the lead or in the low 60 scores in ties. Well, Tiger right now, as it stands, is 13 shots off the lead, at least 13 shots. He's not going to make it there. And at least 21 golfers that are just ahead of him between he and the cut line would have to falter miserably this afternoon for him to get in.

So, there is a slim chance. But still, Tiger, second day in a row with a round of 76, 12 under par for the tournament. He never got it going. And missing in his tee shots, not very strong at his putting game. And when you have those two combinations on a course playing this tough as it is at Winged Foot, it makes it very impossible to try to do anything. And so Tiger right now, it does appear, will be free for the first time on a weekend in his professional career.

Let's go back to you.

PHILLIPS: All right, onto my favorite, Phil Mickelson, chasing his third major this weekend. He's from my hometown. I got to continue to stay faithful to him.

SMITH: Phil is -- he's playing so well right now, with just unprecedented confidence in his game. He was still steady on Thursday, struggled out of the box today with bogey, bogey, on his first two holes. That's not the way to get it done.

But keep in mind, even Phil said early on, and everyone agrees, par will probably win here. Only two golfers have ever finished under par when a U.S. Open was played here at Winged Foot, just north of New York. That was back in 1984, Fuzzy Zoeller and Greg Norman. So par could make it. And right now, he's two over par, and we'll see if he can get it back as Colin Montgomerie also is still on the course and still at one under par.

PHILLIPS: Yes, Colin always seems to get in there somehow, gets his name in there, gets in the fight.

SMITH: You know, he's a sentimental favorite. I would love to see Colin do well here. He's 42 years old. He was one of the top golfers on the European Tour for most of the '90s. He's a phenomenal Ryder Cup player because he is such a great team player, and fits well with so many other players, has such a solid game all the way around.

Has never won a major. He's been a runner-up here twice in the U.S. Open. And what a great story it would be for him to finally get that monkey off his back and get a victory. He's been still solid this week and certainly good for golf, not only on the European Tour, but also when he comes over here and plays in the States.

PHILLIPS: Larry Smith, thanks so much.

Well, another sports story -- you have got World Cup fever? We have got World Cup fever, but we're not brave enough to take on a team of Germans at their own game. That would take the bravery of a New York City firefighter.

CNN's Chris Burns reports from Berlin on a brotherhood bigger than an ocean.

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CHRIS BURNS, CNN CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): The New York City Fire Department takes on Berlin's firefighters. For both teams, joining the millions of fans here at the World Cup is more than sports.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: How does that feel, a place at the World Cup?

LT. JOSEPH BIOSI, FDNY SOCCER COACH: It's great. It's great. For us to be here, you know, we started talking about this two years ago. It was a dream that the team had. BURNS: It's also a chance to talk shop, for the Germans to show off their equipment, and for one New York firefighter to show off his tattoo and a battle scar.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: How about that one? That's a different one. That's a burn.

BURNS: For the men of the FDNY, coming to the World Cup is a poignant reminder of those who can't be here, teammates and comrades, like Sergio Villanueva, one of 343 of the guys they called New York's bravest who died at the New York Trade Center on September 11. The Argentine-American born on the Fourth of July, played for this team two days before 9/11.

BIOSI: Him and his company had traveled very high into the second tower and, unfortunately, like the rest of the men that were in there, whether they were police or fire or civilians or electrical workers there that were helping out, you know, they didn't have enough time to get out and they gave their lives helping others.

BURNS: Berlin's fire chief remembers watching in horror.

CHIEF WILFRIED GRAEFLING, BERLIN FIRE DEPARTMENT: We were all shocked and because firefighters feel like a big family all over the world.

BURNS: Which brought these men closer together.

BIOSI: Firefighters put themselves in harm's way all over the world whether you're in New York City or Chicago or Berlin or Holland, and sometimes they make the supreme sacrifice. So, these guys know how to feel loss the same as we do.

BURNS: So the exchange of souvenirs between the chief and the coach carries far more weight than meets the eye.

BIOSI: And the doves represent the life that lives on.

BURNS: Like the spirit at this little match in the shadow of the World Cup.

Chris Burns, CNN, Berlin.

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PHILLIPS: Well Chris didn't tell us who won or lost, but they definitely would have been distracted if one of these diehard soccer heads showed up. A salon in Munich with a flair for extreme hair is going goofy in the World Cup super-fan department, offering gravity- defying themed dos. Now this is commitment, folks. We suspect this guy has take an few soccer balls to the head. What do you think?

Straight ahead, entertainment news with A.J. Hammer of "SHOWBIZ TONIGHT." Kind of hard to follow that, A.J.

A.J. HAMMER, "SHOWBIZ TONIGHT": I don't know what to do now, but I want you to get out your box of tissues or have them nearby, Kyra, because an emotional Britney Spears breaks down in primetime. I'll have the highlights from that tear-filled interview.

Also, Angelina Jolie and her exclusive CNN interview. All the scoop when LIVE FROM returns.

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PHILLIPS: Well, a ballyhooed interview turns into a, well, boo- hoo fest and a pretty potent example of how showbiz can ruin your life. As a matter of fact, I think A.J. still has tears in his eyes from that heartwrenching interview -- A.J.

HAMMER: Just a little weepy, Kyra. I'm sorry.

What a way to start the weekend, huh? You know, it seems no matter what she does, Britney Spears is always leaving people talking about it the next day. She is pregnant with her second child and the 24-year-old pop princess sat down with NBC's Matt Lauer in what actually turned out to be a very candid and a sometimes emotional interview on the show "Dateline." In fact, at one moment, the star actually burst into tears as she pleaded for privacy from the paparazzi.

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MATT LAUER, "TODAY SHOW" CO-HOST: What do you think it will take to get the paparazzi to leave you alone?

BRITNEY SPEARS, SINGER: I don't know. I don't know.

LAUER: Is that one of your biggest wishes?

SPEARS: Yes. I would like for them to leave me alone.

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HAMMER: It cannot be easy and one can really almost feel sorry for her. Spears also responded to the criticism that she drew earlier this year when she was photographed driving with her infant son on her lap. She said, quote, "I did it with my dad, I'd sit on his lap. We're country." Spears also says she knows she's a good mother and she called her marriage to Kevin Federline, quote, "awesome."

And now to my favorite part of the story, the very latest from Spears. She may actually take a cue from Brad and Angelina and relocate to Namibia to have her baby -- you heard me right. It's according to an AP story. There's an official from the star's camp who has shown interest, though nothing has yet been confirmed.

And speaking of Angelina Jolie, the brand new mom has now given her very first TV interview since giving birth to little Shiloh Nouvel. Doing the honors, none other than CNN's Anderson Cooper. The interview happened in Los Angeles, where, among other things, Cooper got personal with the star, asking questions like this.

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ANDERSON COOPER, CNN ANCHOR: I'd be remiss if I didn't ask you this one question about your baby. Congratulations. What was it like actually giving birth? I mean, you had two children through adoption. What was it like?

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HAMMER: Jolie gave the interview to help draw attention to next week's World Refugee Day. She speaks at length about her passion on that issue, and of course, the latest arrival to her family with Brad Pitt.

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ANGELINA JOLIE, ACTRESS/MOTHER: I just wanted to hear her crying. I was sure everything would go -- at the last minute I became the mother that was sure everything was going to wrong.

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HAMMER: For all of Anderson Cooper's exclusive interview with Angelina Jolie, watch "ANDERSON COOPER 360" Tuesday night at 10:00 p.m. Eastern -- Kyra.

Kyra, I got to back up for a second, because as I told you, Britney Spears potentially thinking about going to Namibia to have her baby.

PHILLIPS: Yes, I thought she was a country girl.

HAMMER: Apparently it's going to be a different country. What do you make of that?

PHILLIPS: Oh, A.J., please don't make me go there. All right, what else is coming up tonight?

HAMMER: I'll tell you, it's me and former veep tonight. The accidental movie star, former vice president Al Gore, on how "An Inconvenient Truth" has made him the toast of Tinseltown. I go one on one with Al Gore on TV's most provocative entertainment news show. It's "SHOWBIZ TONIGHT," 11:00 p.m. Eastern on CNN Headline Prime. I'm going to find out if he's spending time in Hollywood hanging out with Paris Hilton.

PHILLIPS: There you go. Knowing you, you'll get all the scoop. I hope you have a great weekend, A.J.

HAMMER: You do the same, Kyra.

PHILLIPS: All right. Well, forget the quick and the dead; we're talking today about the rich and the dead. Filthy rich. Not that it does them any good at this point. But who would you say is the celebrity with the greatest posthumous earning power? Number one is easy: the King. Elvis. His estate, record sales and royalties drummed up $52 million last year. That's a lot of 'nanner sandwiches. And here's the others. Kurt Cobain, $50 million, mostly from a one-time sell-off of his songs. Next, Albert Einstein, $20 million on his name alone. Andy Warhol made $16 million for the art foundation that bears his name. And Marilyn Monroe, dead almost 44 years, her estate made $8 million in 2005.

You pit a house cat against a bear, and which one do you think ends up hiding in a tree? You see the picture, but you have to hear the story. You know, the way Jeanne Moos tells it. That's ahead on CNN.

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PHILLIPS: Let's get straight to Fredricka Whitfield. She's working on a developing story for us in the newsroom -- Fred.

FREDRICKA WHITFIELD, CNN ANCHOR: Well, Kyra, after a 14-week trial in Contra Costa County Superior Court in California, the jury has decided to convict Susan Polk of second degree murder in the stabbing death of her 70-year-old psychologist husband, Felix Polk. Susan Polk had served as her own attorney and had claimed that the stabbing of her husband was in self-defense.

It was in October of 2002 that the youngest of their three sons found the body of Felix Polk on their properties with multiple stab wounds. Prosecutors had argued that Susan Polk wanted to end their bitter divorce, as well as their custody battle. The jury sided with the prosecutors, finding her guilty of second degree murder -- Kyra.

PHILLIPS: All right, Fred, thanks.

The red flag is out across California. Wildfires are on the move. The 700-acre Tindle Gulch (ph) fire is about half contained. It was sparked by a tree falling on a powerline.

Firefighters in New Mexico also are battling tinder dry conditions. The worst fire there is in the Gila National Forest near Albuquerque. Crews there have contained it, for the most part, a fire that forced dozens of people from their homes. President Bush is heading there later this afternoon.

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PHILLIPS: Pity this poor bear. You know it will never live down being forced up a tree in New Jersey by a house cat. Well that cat, on the other hand, let's just say if you're surprised it treed a trespasser 30 times its size, you don't know jack.

CNN's Jeanne Moos does.

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JEANNE MOOS, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Forget scaredy cat. We're talking scaredy bear, and here's the picture that proves it.

Sure, there's much more dramatic video, of tranquilized bears falling out of trees, or falling on to a trampoline. The bear survived, and so did this cat.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Rocky, Rocky, Rocky, Rocky! OK, she's down.

MOOS: But it was the picture of Jack, the ten pound cat chasing a 300-pound bear up a tree in New Jersey, that went worldwide. For a while it was Yahoo!'s most e-mailed photo, rivaling even the death photo of Iraq's top terrorist.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Maybe the bear was already up there and the cat just came.

MOOS: Nope. The neighbor who took the picture saw Jack the cat chase the bear. As for Jack's owner...

DONNA DICKEY, JACK'S OWNER: I was very nervous. I thought that the bear would turn around and go for him, but Jack was in charge.

MOOS: At the Queens Zoo bear exhibit, kids were skeptical.

(on camera): It was a little cat.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Are you sure?

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: It reminds me of the elephant who's afraid of the little mouse.

MOOS (voice-over): It's not unusual for large animals to fear smaller ones, says the zoo's curator.

SCOTT SILVER, QUEENS ZOO: I've seen leopards towering in the corner over a fish, a six-inch fish that was...

MOOS (on camera): Really?

SILVER: ... flopping around. They'd never seen a fish before.

MOOS (voice-over): The owner of a cat named Max took pictures of his feline facing down a bear that ventured onto Max's porch.

Take it from Garfield...

GARFIELD, CARTOON CAT: Time to grab some chow before I eat your liver with some fava beans and a nice Chianti.

MOOS: And bears can often be intimidated just by clapping or opening an umbrella. But Jack didn't have an umbrella.

STEPHEN COLBERT, HOST, "THE COLBERT REPORT": This cat is so brave that I'm guessing he's neutered. His owners probably got tired of tripping over his giant (BLEEP). So I am sending Jack this collar with two bells on it.

MOOS: The bear got away when the cat's owner called Jack off. It's enough to blacken a black bear's image.

(on camera): Do you think of bears as, like, fierce or chicken?

UNIDENTIFIED CROWD OF CHILDREN: Chicken!

MOOS (voice-over): Jeanne Moos, CNN, New York.

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