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Israel, Hezbollah Trade Rocket Fire; U.S., Europe Evacuate Citizens from Lebanon; Heat Wave Sweeps U.S.

Aired July 17, 2006 - 13:00   ET

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KYRA PHILLIPS, HOST: Hello. I'm Kyra Phillips in CNN world headquarters in Atlanta.
Hezbollah rockets strike Israel. Israel attacks Beirut suburbs. On both sides of the border, civilians caught in the crossfire.

Stranded in Lebanon. Thousands of America awaiting U.S. military ships, jets, choppers and troops to get them out.

Extreme heat: temperatures soaring above 100 degrees from coast to coast. Emergency cooling centers opened. Wildfires blaze a path of destruction out west.

LIVE FROM starts right now.

Israel and Hezbollah on the attack and under attack. The Middle East battle rages on. Here's what we know right now.

The U.S. is stepping up plans to evacuate Americans from Lebanon. Marines are leading the way, and a Navy destroyer heading in to provide security. Also, the State Department is chartering airliners and a cruise ship.

There's good reason to get out. Israeli missiles today hit Beirut's port, an army barracks and southern suburbs. Hezbollah rockets again hit the Israeli city of Haifa, partially collapsing a building.

But diplomacy didn't dead. President Bush plans to send Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice to the Middle East. Also U.N. chief Kofi Annan and British leader Tony Blair are calling for an international force to help end the fighting.

CNN's worldwide resources are fanned out across the region on both sides of the conflict. Our correspondents are in Beirut, Lebanon, and Haifa, Israel. They're watching tensions boil and violence escalate in Gaza, and they're watching as Americans try to get out of Lebanon.

Some are heading to Cyprus, thousands of others are crossing the border into Syria. We're going to take you to each one of those places live.

Northern Israel is bracing for more rocket attacks. CNN's John Vause is there -- John. JOHN VAUSE, CNN CORRESPONDENT: This Israeli artillery has been sustained and deadly throughout much of the day. Israel wants to wipe out Hezbollah positions in Southern Lebanon. They fired just moments ago.

But despite this bombardment by the land and also by the sea, the rocket attacks keep coming.

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VAUSE (voice-over): Hour after hour, day after day, for almost a week now, these Israeli mortars have pounded southern Lebanon while warplanes and helicopters attack from the air.

Just across the border, the impact is devastating. Lebanese civilians are dying, homes, buildings and bridges destroyed. The Israelis are aiming for mobile rocket launchers like these: small, quick to set up, hard to hit.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Whenever you can see Katyusha rockets launched from Lebanon, we actually can see it here as a target. So these people in here, actually the artillery are shooting exactly to the place that has been shot from in Lebanon.

But there's little Israel can do once the Katyushas are in the air. About a thousand Hezbollah rockets have hit Israeli towns and cities. Kiria Shirona (ph) is right on the front lines. And life here has come to a standstill.

For a few hours, residents come up for air. They spend most of the day and all of the night terrified in underground bunkers.

(on camera) So how many people would be staying here?

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Thirty people. Something like that.

VAUSE (voice-over): He says along with many others, he's close to breaking. The bomb shelters are hot and stuffy. There's little do, he says, except wait for the next attack.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Can not relax when you hear, boom, boom, boom.

VAUSE: And if this fire power is not enough to step the Hezbollah rockets, Israel still has the option of sending in ground forces, tanks. Armored vehicles and soldiers are gathering on the border. They're waiting and praying.

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VAUSE: Small number of troops have crossed over the border into Lebanon as this Israeli artillery continues to fire from this position here, Kyra. We are told, though, that that cross border raid was more of a hit-and-run attack on a Hezbollah stronghold. The order to send in ground forces in any great numbers is still yet to come -- Kyra. PHILLIPS: Our John Vause right there in the middle of the action. John, we'll be talking to you quite a bit throughout the next couple of hours.

Meanwhile, Sean McCormack at the State Department right now talking about evacuations. Sixty-four Americans evacuated out of Lebanon since yesterday. Let's listen in.

SEAN MCCORMACK, STATE DEPARTMENT SPOKESMAN: About 15,000 have registered with the embassies. Three thousand of that 15,000 are new registrants. They have registered since the beginning of this crisis. So that's the total number of people that we're dealing with, the magnitude of people. The scale numbers that we're dealing with.

How many people want to actually leave? I think our operating planning, on the order of thousands. You don't actually -- you don't actually know how many people are going to want to leave until you actually start the larger scale operations, which again should happen in the near future.

The -- there are a wide variety of estimates that we are able to draw on from similar situations, that vary -- to go anywhere from 10 percent to the number of total people in the country who want to leave.

We have received calls from people who do want to leave. We have received calls from people who wanted to register but said that they were going to stay in Lebanon. So there's going to be a mix. But in order to accommodate all the people who we believe will want to leave, I think we are trying to put in place the assets, as well as the infrastructure that would be able to handle thousands of people. Air and sea.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: The roads being to Syria, two of the three roads are apparently...

MCCORMACK: I don't know the exact numbers. But our people on the ground made the judgment that it was not safe to do that. We are again operating on the scale of potentially thousands of people who want to leave.

I know that there have been governments who have been operating on the scale of tens or hundreds of people who have left. So they're operating on a different scale than we are or say the Canadians or the Australians are operating under.

So what we want to have is we want to have a safe, orderly, timely method to get people out who want to leave. So that the -- our folks on the ground made the decision that leaving via land in this sort of organized effort, not just ones and twos, isn't the way to go. It wasn't the safe way to go up there.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: ... to get people from wherever the gathering points are to the boat.

MCCORMACK: Well, there are a lot of -- there are a lot of people working now on where exactly the rally points might be. Obviously, I'm not going to talk about -- talk about those from the podium because there is a security issue involved here.

But what we have -- what we have done in the latest message going out from the embassy and to our citizens in Beirut and Lebanon is to say, get your travel gear in order, make sure your bags are ready to go. Make sure you have your travel documents ready to go so that when we do start into this phase, which we hope is in the near future, moving hundreds of people at a time, that people are ready to go, that they're ready to go to assembly areas and then board whatever means of transportation we have ready for those particular people ready to go.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Would those be buses, basically, to transport people to...

MCCORMACK: Again, I'm not going to get into that level of detail. But in terms of getting out of Lebanon from Lebanon out, out to Cyprus, which is our staging area for people to move onwards, would be either by air or by sea.

PHILLIPS: Sean McCormack there speaking at the State Department, talking about evacuations of U.S. citizens in Lebanon. About 25,000 Americans estimated to be in Lebanon. He's saying make sure your bags are packed, your documents in your hand. They decided it's not safe to evacuate by ground. Rather, by sea and air.

Thousands of people, Sean McCormack saying, they are getting ready to evacuate. Larger scale operations possibly in the near future.

Let's bring in -- as these missiles keep heading into Lebanon, westerners, as we've been telling you, are still trying to get out. You just heard from Sean McCormack. The U.S., Britain, France, Germany, Italy, they're all starting evacuations now.

We're learning more now about a stepped-up U.S. effort, in addition to what Sean McCormack was talking about. Let's get the latest from the Pentagon now and our Jamie McIntyre -- Jamie.

JAMIE MCINTYRE, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Well, Kyra, you heard Sean McCormack say that there are some 15,000 Americans who registered with the State Department, 3,000 just since the crisis began. The best case estimate -- best estimate they have right now is they think maybe 5,000 of those may want to leave.

They started airlifting people out yesterday on a very small scale. 21 people were taken out by some CH-53 helicopters that are from those Navy ships with marines that are operating in the Red Sea right now. The helicopters flew up to do an air bridge between Cyprus and Lebanon. Twenty-one people were taken out by some CH-53 helicopters that are from those -- Navy ships with Marines that are operating in the Red Sea right now.

The helicopters flew up to do an air bridge between Cyprus and Lebanon. Twenty-one out yesterday; 43 out today. Total of 64 so far. But they expect that to ramp up considerably tomorrow when a couple of things happen. One, more helicopters will arrive from that Marine expeditionary unit in the Red Sea, not necessarily the ships, but the helicopters will, to make that -- those ferry trips back and forth between Cyprus and Beirut.

Plus the State Department has chartered a cruise ship called the Orient Queen. It's either flagged in Greece or Lebanon, depending on who you talk to. It's not a luxury ship, but it's a fairly large ship. It has capacity for about 750 people. And it will arrive in Beirut, we're told, tomorrow.

It takes it probably about 12 hours to get back and forth between Beirut and Cyprus. So that means that ship can probably make a run a day, taking out some 750 people, or more, depending on how many they want to fit in for the short trip over to Cyprus.

And that, between the helicopters and the ship, that's going to be the main way of getting people out for the next couple of days as they see exactly how many people want to leave, and whether the security situation changes at all in Lebanon -- Kyra.

PHILLIPS: All right. Jamie McIntyre, thanks so much.

And if you have family in Lebanon whom you want to register with the State Department, you can head to this web site at Lebanon.USEmbassy.gov. Or you can call this number: 961-454-4037.

For Americans living in Lebanon who need help getting out, you're asked to call this number -- 0-1-202-501-4444. Or, if you have loved ones in Lebanon, there's another number for you to call, 1-888-407- 4747.

CNN's Alessio Vinci now joins me from Beirut where those evacuations are under way.

Alessio, how organized is it?

ALESSIO VINCI, CNN CORRESPONDENT: It's pretty well organized, Kyra. We understand over the last few days German and Italian nationals have left already by land into Syria, and then from there either by plane or by boat they went to Cyprus or to other countries.

Today, however, the first large-scale evacuation organized by the French government, a Cypriot ferry has docked here at the port of Beirut. And we understand that 1,200 French people, French nationals, will be able to leave the country today. As a matter of fact, there is room for 1,200 people; 800 will be French, 400 will be from other European countries.

Nevertheless, this evacuation has started already in earnest. We were down to the port a few hours ago. It is well organized. It is calm. There is no panic. And I think everything is happening under tight security, of course, but also under extremely controlled circumstances. We understand that there are about 20,000 French people in this country; 6,000 of them have registered to leave. And the French government says that over the next few days there will be more ferries coming, and all these 6,000 will be able to leave. Of course, priority first to the children, to the women and the elderly and those in special need.

As far as the British are concerned, they have not started evacuation, per se, yet. They are planning, as are the Americans are doing. But they already have helicopters going back and forth, and we understand that two helicopters have left earlier today. They were -- they came here to bring some people that will facilitate when the evacuation will actually take place.

As they left to go back to Cyprus, they took with them some 40 British nationals. Again, old people, people with children and people with special needs.

So this is the situation as far as evacuations are concerned from here today.

PHILLIPS: Alessio, meanwhile, let's talk about the military action for a minute. Bring us up to date on what's happened today. And also, I probably sound like a broken record. I know I ask you this every time we talk, but Lebanese army, are they involved in this fight yet? Will they get involved in this fight?

VINCI: OK. They've been provoked, the Lebanese army, to start with that. Clearly overnight, 2 a.m. in the morning local time here, three Israeli missiles hit directly a Lebanese army barracks up in the north about 50 miles from here, killing six Lebanese army soldiers and injuring scores of them.

We understand that that barrack was specifically targeted. We don't know why. We have not heard any reaction from the Israeli government. The Lebanese government has not said anything else, other than the barracks actually had been hit.

We do know that in the past, the Israeli military has targeted, for example, radar installations belonging to the Lebanese army. Two soldiers were killed last week, possibly by mistake. But this is the first time actually that the Lebanese army is taking a direct hit. But there was no response.

We do know that perhaps sometimes when the Israeli air force flies missions over Lebanon, sometimes the Lebanese antiaircraft responds, but right now we cannot say for sure that the Lebanese military is actually actively involved in fighting this war.

We do know that obviously Hezbollah, the militia, is very well equipped, including with antiaircraft machine guns, is actually responding to the attack of the Israelis.

Now there have also been more bombings throughout Lebanon this day. Beirut is fairly quiet. It started this morning with several attacks. Again in the southern part of the city where the Hezbollah headquarters are located -- or the rest of it, since they've been taking a brunt of the attacks here in the capital.

The port was attacked about 12 hours before the French ferry arrived. Two people there were killed. More attacks throughout the country. The death toll rising steadily by the hour here.

Kyra, back to you.

PHILLIPS: Alessio, thanks so much.

A Mediterranean island becomes a safe haven now as Cyprus is about to get a lot more crowded. Our Chris Burns is there to tell us about who's coming to the area -- Chris.

CHRIS BURNS, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Kyra, over my shoulder we're expecting an Italian naval ship to arrive with some 400 evacuees in the next few hours. And also later this evening, perhaps through the night, that French ferry boat with some 1,200 evacuees that Alessio was talking about should be arriving, as well. So it's going to be a very, very busy night.

We've seen hundreds more evacuated yesterday. Today, as well, we saw a U.S. military helicopter, a couple of them, bringing over a few dozen U.S. citizens. Those who were either elderly or had -- or children or ill, various cases, they were brought over. We saw them being taken over to a hotel. They seemed in pretty good shape, seemed very relaxed, and it seemed that the trip was quite OK for them.

But we did talk to another American citizen who made it through with a private company that evacuated him. And he had quite a harrowing tale to talk about, how he had to make the meeting point in Beirut to be evacuated through Syria over land and then flown over here.

He actually showed us a picture, if we have that online there. We can show you the picture he took as he was being evacuated. He was heading toward that meeting point. There were explosions going around him, even just 200 yards away. So a very harrowing experience.

But he is here safe and sound, and he does hope that the rest of his family -- he's a Lebanese-American national, like many other of those Americans that are in Lebanon, are dual-nationals, that they can get out, as well.

Now, the U.S. operation is going to be stepped up. We're hearing that -- we are hearing that the USS Gonzalez, a destroyer, is going to be leading this. There are also going to be a number of other U.S. naval ships there, as well as a Greek cruise ship that is going to be moving these people.

But they're also talking about more helicopters. They're talking about more -- even amphibious units taken people over. So it could be a mix of different ways to bring Americans out of there. Again, we don't know exactly how many people. Could be a few thousand; could be maybe up to 5,000. That's the big question, how many people are going to line up once this begins?

And we hear, as it could begin in the next couple of days, as early as the next couple of days -- Kyra.

PHILLIPS: All right. Chris Burns in Cyprus, thanks so much.

CNN's Tony Harris has an eye on the CNN international desk, on the Web and on various Mideast television stations, bringing us up to date on a very busy time for our international desk.

TONY HARRIS, CNN ANCHOR: That's right, Kyra.

Hey, Kyra, just want to jump in for a moment to tell you and the viewers who tune in to watch you on LIVE FROM that we are monitoring the developments moment to moment here from the international desk.

Speaking of developments as they happen from moment to moment, just a few moments ago, Sean McCormack, a State Department spokesman, announced that Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice will be traveling to the Middle East, to the region, for talks to try to bring this current crisis to an end.

Here is Sean McCormack just moments ago.

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MCCORMACK: Her goal, in traveling to the region, would be to try to further the diplomacy that would lay the groundwork for a lasting cessation of violence. What you don't want to do is you don't want to be back...

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HARRIS: OK. Sean McCormack from just a couple of moments ago, announcing that Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice will be traveling to the region for talks. Don't know when at this time. We will continue to work that angle of the story and bring you those details as soon as we have them.

Just to sort of broaden it out a little bit and give you a sense of what we're going to try to accomplish for you, Kyra, during your hours on LIVE FROM, we are monitoring up to nine different Arabic channels in the region, from -- let me go through the list here -- Al Jazeera, Al Arabiya. You know the names at this point. Local Lebanese broadcast, Al Menar, which has banned Hezbollah TV, New TV, which is privately owned but sympathetic to Hezbollah. And Kyra, we are also watching Iranian channels, as well.

Now we know the big story is the fighting that continues to be ongoing in the region right now. But what we are going to try to do during the course of the afternoon is bring you some of the stories of the people who were caught in the crossfire, regular folks who were in the middle of all of this. CNN.com is asking readers affected by the fighting in the region to send in their e-mails. We are going to share those e-mails with you throughout your hours here on LIVE FROM -- Kyra.

PHILLIPS: All right. Tony, sure look forward to it. Appreciate it. Stuck in Lebanon, thousands of American citizens looking for a way out. I'm going to talk with a mother here in Atlanta who's worried sick about her 17-year-old son in Beirut. We're going to get him on phone, too. Straight ahead.

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PHILIPS: Pick a city almost anywhere in the country. Walk outside; it's like walking in a blast furnace. Temperatures are near or above 100 degrees again today, and of course, the humidity makes it feel even harder.

Heat warnings are out from New Jersey to Nevada. In Chicago state office buildings are being opened to anyone needing a place to cool off.

Swimming pools and lakes are among the most popular and packed places right now, especially in Middleton City, Ohio, where the last week of summer school has been canceled. The buildings don't even have air conditioning.

Sweltering and dangerous, St. Louis, Missouri, just one city under an excessive heat warning as temperatures hover around 100 degrees. Reporter Virginia Kerr from our affiliate KMOV joins me now from one of the city's most popular places.

You're actually at the perfect place for remaining cool in St. Louis. That's for sure.

VIRGINIA KERR, KMOV CORRESPONDENT: I am. I'm at one of the most popular swimming pools. If you look around, you can see there's not a lot of people here, and that's probably because it is so stinking hot. It's 90 degrees right now, but temperatures are expected to peak at 100 degrees today.

And as you mentioned, excessive heat warning. We are under one too, and so are several surrounding counties. Basically, what that means, we have three for more days of a heat advisory. Our heat -- excessive heat warning is not supposed to lift until Friday night. That means we're going to hit 100 degrees a couple of times this week.

And we've got some video to show you of yesterday, our hottest day of the summer so far at Busch Stadium. Many people, several people had to be treated for heat-related illnesses, a record number of people for the new Busch stadium. And apparently, some of the L.A. fans were having to be treated, as well. They were playing the Dodgers yesterday. And of course, they're not used to this humidity.

As you mentioned, it's one thing to be actually reaching 100 degrees but when you factor in the humidity and the thick, nasty, mugginess of it all, it actually feels a lot heater -- hotter. Today the heat index is supposed to reach 110 to 115 degrees. So, it may be 100 degrees here, but it's actually going to feel like 115.

I'm Virginia Kerr, reporting live in St. Louis. Back to you. PHILLIPS: All right, Virginia. Real quickly now. I used to live there. And I remember praying for those snow days and not having to go to school. But I don't ever remember it ever getting so hot that it shut down school or any other kind of operation. I mean, has it been a while since you've gotten this kind of heat? And how is it affecting the city as we know it?

KERR: Well, as far as schools being let out, it hasn't happened in a couple of years. But there are some, you know, schools that do have to let out, especially ones that don't have the proper air conditioning in them, in some of those inner city schools.

Right now nothing has been shut down. I also wanted to mention, we have not had any heat-related deaths so far this year. Last year we had 25 in the St. Louis area. It is very dangerous weather conditions here, so water is definitely being pushed to everybody.

PHILLIPS: Virginia Kerr, appreciate it.

Well, any relief from the heat anytime soon? Meteorologist Jacqui Jeras is on the lookout.

Hey, Jacqui.

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PHILLIPS: All right, Jacqui. Thanks.

The Israeli Defense Forces, IDF, may well be as battle tested as any fighting force on earth. Steve Hartov is a former IDF operative. He's been working his sources for CNN right now.

Steve, I want to get right to this report about an Israeli plane being shot down. Have you been able to confirm that?

STEVE HARTOV, FORMER IDF OPERATIVE: Good afternoon, Kyra. Actually, as we pretty much suspected, that was not the case. The Israeli minister of defense came on and broadcast, not long after that, that no manned Israeli aircraft was shot down over Lebanon. It might have been assumed that it was a remotely piloted vehicle, but no one's confirming that either just yet.

PHILLIPS: So it could be a drone that was shot down, because if indeed it was a manned aircraft, they wouldn't report that. Right? Because they'd want to try and find the pilot.

HARTOV: That's exactly the way it works, Kyra. If you're going to lose a pilot to an ejection or a pilot and a navigator, you don't want that information released for as long as you possibly can hold it, so that combat search and rescue teams can try to go in and get them.

PHILLIPS: Well, we've been talking about what type of assets Israel does have. A lot of airborne assets, various jets, helicopters. Tell us what you think the strongest pieces of aircraft they have right now airborne. HARTOV: Well, what you're looking at right there is a Pioneer that's a UAV, a remotely piloted drone, that -- the other aircraft, the fighter aircraft you'll see there, that's an F-16i. It's called a Storm and Hebrew. The previous one -- there's the F-16. The F-15i is called the Thunder. Those are heavy-duty fighter bomber aircraft, carrying all sorts of different kinds of ordnance. Much of it right now is air-to-ground, obviously.

PHILLIPS: And this shot we're looking at right now of the drone, this is possibly, if indeed an aircraft was shot down, it could have been one of these drones.

HARTOV: It might have been a drone like the Pioneer. The Israelis use multiple different types of drones, large, small.

I did get a report not very long ago that, in fact, footage of a flaming wreckage falling near the coast of Lebanon was, in fact, an intercepted missile of Hezbollah that had blown up in the sky and was sort of twirling to the ground in flames. So it may not have been an Israeli aircraft at all.

PHILLIPS: All right. You're former IDF. I want to ask you about the Israeli Defense Force stepping in and asking the media to stop showing certain images in the area. We have struck a deal that it's a war-sensitive time; there have to be certain censorship issues. Tell me why the IDF is asking us to back off on certain specific pictures.

HARTOV: Well, Kyra, it's difficult for a western viewer sometimes to understand the aspects of what we might call here censorship. But in fact if you've got a camera, for instance, in Haifa, and you report that a rocket has fallen in a particular neighborhood, you become a forward observer for the enemy. Almost instantly, they can redirect their fire. And if they were trying for the petrochemical plant with a multiple rocket launch, and we tell them that they've fallen half a kilometer north of that, they just drop five degrees, and then hit the petrochemical plant. So I think we can understand why the Israelis are pretty sensitive to camera work and information revelation right now.

PHILLIPS: So it's pretty interesting, and I guess we learned this during the Iraq war as well, with just the live element of television. You're saying that Hezbollah leaders sit back, watch CNN, and look at how their weaponry is working, where it's hitting, and they're actually able to tell, OK, we fired for this target, wasn't that far off, let's try it again. I mean, it gets that detailed. They sort of use us as an intel center?

HARTOV: Absolutely. And the maps are laid out right in front of them, and if a cameraman inadvertently reveals something they really need to know, they'll fire for effect the next time. So it's -- we have to be sensitive to those issues. It's not a game to those folks over there. It is life and death.

PHILLIPS: Have you ever seen a rocket war like this, what we're seeing right now? HARTOV: I have never seen anything like this. Of course the Iranians and Iraqis had this going on quite a bit during the early and mid '80s. I've seen some Katyusha attacks not in these numbers ever. You know, onesies and twosies, but nothing like these multiple rocket launches.

PHILLIPS: And finally I want to ask one more question. I know we're take a break and bring you back and talk more about special operations and how effective that has been thus far in trying to track down intelligence, but the weapons that are coming in to the hands of Hezbollah, we've been talking a lot about Iran and Syria supporting Hezbollah, and how IDF has been able to actually look at these weapons and say, yes, this is coming from Iran, this has come from Syria, and you call those clear signature elements. We're not talking about names on these weapons, but certain parts.

HARTOV: Kyra, that's right. Weapons like these leave a very distinct signature if you can recover some of the parts. A rocket will leave what's called a part of its venturi, which is the bottom of the engine, and you can tell where it's manufactured. It's not going to say "made in Damascus," but we know that some of these rockets are impacting and firing what look like shotgun pellets. And the Syrians manufacture that particular kind of rocket. So you can tell where things have been manufactured and where they're coming from.

PHILLIPS: Steve Hartov, former IDF, also editor in chief of "Special Operations Report." We're going to talk to you a little later in the hour.

Stay with us, Steve.

HARTOV: All right.

PHILLIPS: Appreciate it.

Well, as the crisis in the Middle East deepens, oil prices rise. What does that mean at the gas pump? We're live from the New York Stock Exchange straight ahead.

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