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President Bush Setting Off on European Trip This Hour; OPEC Expected to Announce Production Hike at Beirut Summit Today

Aired June 03, 2004 - 10:00   ET

THIS IS A RUSH TRANSCRIPT. THIS COPY MAY NOT BE IN ITS FINAL FORM AND MAY BE UPDATED.

THIS IS A RUSH TRANSCRIPT. THIS COPY MAY NOT BE IN ITS FINAL FORM AND MAY BE UPDATED.


DARYN KAGAN, CNN ANCHOR: And that begins our headlines at this hour. And that is our first headline. President Bush setting off on European trip this hour, he's going to mark a couple of World War II anniversaries in the next few days. But it is the Iraq War and transition plans that will be the focus, when the president sees the leaders of France, Germany, and Italy, and the Roman Catholic Church.
OPEC is expected to announce a production hike at its Beirut summit today. A live picture there from Beirut. The Saudi oil minister is proposing an increase of 11 percent. But don't expect those prices at the pump to come down any time too soon.

Those high oil prices mean more red ink for the nation's airlines. A House committee is holding hearings today on the financial condition of the airline industry. Among the witnesses, CEOs of Continental, North Western, AirTran, America West, Frontier and United.

And Britain's air traffic control system is back up following a computer failure there. The system was down for about an hour earlier this morning causing major travel delays. Officials are trying to determine what happened, while they worked to clear airline backups.

President Bush has a meeting this morning with one of his staunchest supporters of his Iraq policies, Australian Prime Minister John Howard. You heard the president comments from the White House Rose Garden, live right here on CNN; those came after his talks with Mr. Howard. It's a busy morning for the president as he prepares to leave for Europe at this hour.

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

GEORGE W. BUSH, PRESIDENT, UNITED STATES OF AMERICA: Prime Minister Allawi has made it clear that he wants help from the coalition to deal with the security issues, so that the country can have free elections, that's what he has said. He is the prime minister and that's what he has said. We've had these arrangements before, these security arrangements with other countries. We're good about forging relationships on the ground, respecting the sovereignty of the country. And at the same time, being able to do our jobs that the host government expects to be done. And I'm confident we'll work out a mutually acceptable security arrangement with the fully sovereign Iraqi government.

(END VIDEO CLIP) KAGAN: The first stop on the presidential trip is Rome. He will meet the Italian prime minister and Pope John Paul, II. Mr. Bush will also attend a D-Day anniversary event in France.

The Senate wants President Bush to have the money that he wanted for war but with some limitation. By a unanimous vote, senators approved $25 billion for more military operations in Iraq and Afghanistan. The Senate bill would allow the president to spend $2.5 billion, as he would like. Mr. Bush had wanted to be able to shift all the funding among different accounts without congressional approval.

Adnan Pachachi, the man who turned down the post of Iraq's interim presidency says he may run for that office in the future. Ghazi al Yawar was named the largely ceremonial presidential position on Tuesday. Pachachi denies reports that the U.S. wanted to install him as president. But he said the post was offered to him by U.N. envoy Lakhdar Brahimi. Pachachi told CNN's "AMERICAN MORNING" why he turned down the post.

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

ADAN PACHACHI, FMR. FOREIGN MINISTER, IRAQ: Since obviously, some very possibly small minority have had reservations about my becoming president, you know? And then because of the fact that I was accused of being the choice of the Americans. I thought that I had to refuse this offer, which was given to me in very clear terms, in order to preserve my reputation and my honor.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

KAGAN: There are less than four weeks to go until the handover of power in Iraq. U.S. forces are stepping up pressure on Muqtada al Sadr's militia.

Our Guy Raz is in the southern part of Iraq in Kufa.

(BEGIN VIDEOTAPE)

GUY RAZ, CNN CORRESPONDENT (on camera): With only a month to go before administrative sovereignty is handed over to an Iraqi government, fighting continues to rage in southern Iraq. This time in Kufa, where U.S. forces raided the center of town early this morning, coming into contact with insurgents. Fighting lasted for well over an hour. U.S. forces estimate they killed at least 30 suspected insurgents of the Mehdi army, the army loyal to the radical, Shiite cleric Muqtada al Sadr. Also, four U.S. soldiers wounded lightly in those clashes earlier this morning.

Now, U.S. military officials here say they will continue to engage the Mehdi militia until it disbands and disarms. And until its leader, Muqtada al Sadr voluntarily surrenders to Iraqi police.

Now, U.S. forces conducted searches at a school inside Kufa, where they found several mortars, artillery, rocket propelled grenades and guns. Now, this forward operating base, where we are located, has experienced several mortar attacks over the past six weeks. Particularly fierce ones in the past few days, with 120-millimeter rounds hitting parts of this base. That's a mortar that has a kill radius of 30 meters. U.S. officials here say they will continue to engage with the Mehdi militia until they're satisfied that they are defeated.

Guy Raz, CNN, Najaf in southern Iraq.

(END VIDEOTAPE)

KAGAN: Ahmed Chalabi is denying he tipped off Iranian officials that U.S. had cracked its secret communication code. The former Iraqi exile and Bush administration ally says he had come to the U.S. to talk with law enforcement agents about the matter. But legal experts suggest that Chalabi could be arrested if he enters U.S. territory again. There are reports the FBI has started given Pentagon employees polygraph tests to find out who might have linked the information to Chalabi. A Pentagon official tells CNN, no senior Defense Department official is the target of such an investigation.

Well, there is a new Pentagon order indicating how stretched the U.S. military is in Iraq. Our Barbara Starr is here to talk about a plan; it affects thousands of soldiers who had plans to retire or otherwise leave the military.

Barbara, it sounds like they're going to have to rearrange some of those plans?

BARBARA STARR, CNN PENTGON CORRESPONDENT: Indeed, Daryn. Not very likely to make the troops happy at all. The Army has now announced a policy that was partially in place, but now it's going to be standard operating procedure. Any soldiers that are within 90 days of deploying to Iraq or Afghanistan will not be allowed to retire or otherwise leave military service. This is going to apply to any units that are on their way to those overseas deployments. A signal of concern from the Army that it is going to be able to keep enough fully combat-trained soldiers on the job and in those units.

They tell us that if they didn't do this, they would have to look to 4000 new soldiers for each division deployed. And they're worried that they might not have the most combat-trained troops. So this is going to be into place.

And one of the impacts is, of course it's going to keep a soldier on duty for up to 18 months longer, 90 days before deployment, the one-year deployment, 90 days after. So if it catches somebody just as they were about ready to retire or leave, another 18 months on the job. Now, that is raising a lot of questions in the political arena about whether it is still really an all-volunteer force. Presidential candidate John Kerry talk baggage that very point.

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

SEN. JOHN KERRY (D-MA), PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: The guard in the Reserve have been turned into almost active duty. And you have what is a back door draft that has been put into effect. People serving beyond the time of their voluntary service are no longer volunteers.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

STARR: Now, the Pentagon, of course, says this is all very legal, standard procedure when a soldier signs an enlistment contract. There is language that in an emergency, of course, they could be required to stay beyond their term of service. But the Pentagon is concerned about recruiting and retention. Will they still be able to bring in enough people if this kind of policy remains in effect? Very interesting analysis on Capitol Hill from a top military officer about just how long a person can stay in a combat environment.

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

GEN. PETER PACE, VICE CHMN., JOINT CHIEFS: In all of the studies from World War II, and Korea, and Vietnam indicate that at about the one-year mark, a person's -- an individual's personal capacity to endure a combat drops off significantly.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

STARR: One indicator of the concern, again, about recruiting, reports now the Air National Guard, their recruiting is down more than 20 percent -- Daryn.

KAGAN: And we'll have more on the numbers later in the morning. Barbara Starr at the Pentagon.

A meeting going on right now half a world away. It could impact what you pay at the gas pump. The OPEC decision coming up in a live report.

Protecting the homeland, how prepared are police in America's biggest cities? We'll ask an expert about the summer terror threat.

And later, you might recognize her voice from some the biggest movies of the last couple of years. Norwegian born singer, Sissel, is here with us to talk about her new CD and her U.S. tour.

(COMMERCIAL BREAK)

KAGAN: A huge sigh of relief in Texas today, two missing propane delivery trucks were found abandoned. They were about 150 miles from where they were stolen in San Antonio. FBI officials say the trucks held more than five gallons of propane and were still full when they were found. The incident had aroused fears the trucks could be used in terrorist attacks.

Homeland security is the subject of a major exposition right now in the nation's capital. Thomas Frazier is one of the panelists and he is a former police commissioner of Baltimore. Today he is a security consultant and the executive director of the Major Cities Police Chiefs Association Of North America.

Mr. Commissioner, good morning. Thanks for being here with us.

THOMAS FRAZIER, EXEC. DIR., MAJOR CITIES POLICE CHIEFS ASSN. OF NORTH AMERICA: Thanks for having me, appreciate it.

KAGAN: When all you security experts get together in one place, what is the hot topic?

FRAZIER: Well, I think the hot topic is are we prepared? Can we do better? How is the decision-making process coming along? Have we practiced it enough? Do we have the equipment that we need? All of the things that we need to have control of, to have an effective, preventive and response program.

KAGAN: In a short answer, of course, it's a big country with a lot of states and a lot of cities, but is America in a better place today than it was, say, two years ago?

FRAZIER: Yes, I really think it is. There has been tremendous progress among the larger agencies in particular, because they are the focus of the threats. The bigger cities, the larger counties, have spent a tremendous amount of money to equip, and prepare, and train themselves for an attack and to prevent as well. And that has to do with data and radio interoperability, as well as the straightforward planning process.

KAGAN: Let me talk to you about a specific thing that happened last week. We saw Attorney General John Ashcroft and FBI head Mr. Mueller hold this news conference and talk about this terror threat out there. But they didn't have a target. They didn't have a date. They didn't have a plot. They just kind of put it out there. They didn't even raise the terror level. Do you think it's helpful when officials do stuff like that?

FRAZIER: Sure, I do. You know, the more that your law enforcement agencies know, the more that the American public can be aware, I think, makes us better prepared. And intelligence is not always specific. If we have specific intelligence, as to the type of threat or the location of the threat, obviously, we can do a better job. But if we don't have that, the need to be vigilant is still there. and we find it most helpful to have that information from both the Justice Department and the Department of Homeland Security.

KAGAN: But where do you draw the line between being aware, and being scared, and then eventually being numb because there are so many conferences like this and then nothing happens?

FRAZIER: Well, I think you can -- you always have to be vigilant. I don't think you can be numbed to it, especially in the law enforcement world. The police chiefs across this country are aware that radical Islam is a threat that's not going to go away. We have to be ready and we have to take all of the threats seriously, and continue to be as vigilant as we can be. I think we owe it to those who live in the communities where we serve.

KAGAN: Well, and let's take it a step outside the experts that are gathered with you there. The average citizen, the first news watch in this program right now, what should they be doing to help keep themselves safe? FRAZIER: Sure. I think there are some things that can be done. In a number of the scenarios, you're probably better staying at home. And to prepare your home, I think it's important. I think to be aware of what's going on around you. There are things that communities see that they can report to their local enforcement agencies who may find that it's nothing. But they may find that it's something.

And it's a process of working together, community oriented policing is really at the root of community support for law enforcement. And we need that part just as much as we need the top down kind of intelligency comes from the international collection agencies.

KAGAN: Thomas Frazier, thank you for joining us today.

FRAZIER: Thank you, Daryn.

KAGAN: Severe weather in the Sooner State. High winds and shattered windows, find out where the storms are heading now.

Plus, pumping up. Will more OPEC oil mean more money in your wallet? Checking the pain at the gas pump, that's straight ahead.

(COMMERCIAL BREAK)

KAGAN: Downtown Tulsa, Oklahoma took a lashing yesterday. Winds clocking at 80 miles per hour, that was enough to blow out some of the windows at a 15-story building. Most employees are staying home today, while engineers access the damage. Which means, there might be a lot of folks, if they have power, tuning in to find out what is in store today.

Coming up on CNN LIVE TODAY, in this hour, President Bush has been talking with a lawyer. We'll tell you what they're discussing. A live report from the White House is ahead.

And could relief at the gas pumps be on the way? Find out when we go live to Beirut, of all places, for details on the OPEC meeting.

TO ORDER A VIDEO OF THIS TRANSCRIPT, PLEASE CALL 800-CNN-NEWS OR USE OUR SECURE ONLINE ORDER FORM LOCATED AT www.fdch.com


Aired June 3, 2004 - 10:00   ET
THIS IS A RUSH TRANSCRIPT. THIS COPY MAY NOT BE IN ITS FINAL FORM AND MAY BE UPDATED.
DARYN KAGAN, CNN ANCHOR: And that begins our headlines at this hour. And that is our first headline. President Bush setting off on European trip this hour, he's going to mark a couple of World War II anniversaries in the next few days. But it is the Iraq War and transition plans that will be the focus, when the president sees the leaders of France, Germany, and Italy, and the Roman Catholic Church.
OPEC is expected to announce a production hike at its Beirut summit today. A live picture there from Beirut. The Saudi oil minister is proposing an increase of 11 percent. But don't expect those prices at the pump to come down any time too soon.

Those high oil prices mean more red ink for the nation's airlines. A House committee is holding hearings today on the financial condition of the airline industry. Among the witnesses, CEOs of Continental, North Western, AirTran, America West, Frontier and United.

And Britain's air traffic control system is back up following a computer failure there. The system was down for about an hour earlier this morning causing major travel delays. Officials are trying to determine what happened, while they worked to clear airline backups.

President Bush has a meeting this morning with one of his staunchest supporters of his Iraq policies, Australian Prime Minister John Howard. You heard the president comments from the White House Rose Garden, live right here on CNN; those came after his talks with Mr. Howard. It's a busy morning for the president as he prepares to leave for Europe at this hour.

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

GEORGE W. BUSH, PRESIDENT, UNITED STATES OF AMERICA: Prime Minister Allawi has made it clear that he wants help from the coalition to deal with the security issues, so that the country can have free elections, that's what he has said. He is the prime minister and that's what he has said. We've had these arrangements before, these security arrangements with other countries. We're good about forging relationships on the ground, respecting the sovereignty of the country. And at the same time, being able to do our jobs that the host government expects to be done. And I'm confident we'll work out a mutually acceptable security arrangement with the fully sovereign Iraqi government.

(END VIDEO CLIP) KAGAN: The first stop on the presidential trip is Rome. He will meet the Italian prime minister and Pope John Paul, II. Mr. Bush will also attend a D-Day anniversary event in France.

The Senate wants President Bush to have the money that he wanted for war but with some limitation. By a unanimous vote, senators approved $25 billion for more military operations in Iraq and Afghanistan. The Senate bill would allow the president to spend $2.5 billion, as he would like. Mr. Bush had wanted to be able to shift all the funding among different accounts without congressional approval.

Adnan Pachachi, the man who turned down the post of Iraq's interim presidency says he may run for that office in the future. Ghazi al Yawar was named the largely ceremonial presidential position on Tuesday. Pachachi denies reports that the U.S. wanted to install him as president. But he said the post was offered to him by U.N. envoy Lakhdar Brahimi. Pachachi told CNN's "AMERICAN MORNING" why he turned down the post.

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

ADAN PACHACHI, FMR. FOREIGN MINISTER, IRAQ: Since obviously, some very possibly small minority have had reservations about my becoming president, you know? And then because of the fact that I was accused of being the choice of the Americans. I thought that I had to refuse this offer, which was given to me in very clear terms, in order to preserve my reputation and my honor.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

KAGAN: There are less than four weeks to go until the handover of power in Iraq. U.S. forces are stepping up pressure on Muqtada al Sadr's militia.

Our Guy Raz is in the southern part of Iraq in Kufa.

(BEGIN VIDEOTAPE)

GUY RAZ, CNN CORRESPONDENT (on camera): With only a month to go before administrative sovereignty is handed over to an Iraqi government, fighting continues to rage in southern Iraq. This time in Kufa, where U.S. forces raided the center of town early this morning, coming into contact with insurgents. Fighting lasted for well over an hour. U.S. forces estimate they killed at least 30 suspected insurgents of the Mehdi army, the army loyal to the radical, Shiite cleric Muqtada al Sadr. Also, four U.S. soldiers wounded lightly in those clashes earlier this morning.

Now, U.S. military officials here say they will continue to engage the Mehdi militia until it disbands and disarms. And until its leader, Muqtada al Sadr voluntarily surrenders to Iraqi police.

Now, U.S. forces conducted searches at a school inside Kufa, where they found several mortars, artillery, rocket propelled grenades and guns. Now, this forward operating base, where we are located, has experienced several mortar attacks over the past six weeks. Particularly fierce ones in the past few days, with 120-millimeter rounds hitting parts of this base. That's a mortar that has a kill radius of 30 meters. U.S. officials here say they will continue to engage with the Mehdi militia until they're satisfied that they are defeated.

Guy Raz, CNN, Najaf in southern Iraq.

(END VIDEOTAPE)

KAGAN: Ahmed Chalabi is denying he tipped off Iranian officials that U.S. had cracked its secret communication code. The former Iraqi exile and Bush administration ally says he had come to the U.S. to talk with law enforcement agents about the matter. But legal experts suggest that Chalabi could be arrested if he enters U.S. territory again. There are reports the FBI has started given Pentagon employees polygraph tests to find out who might have linked the information to Chalabi. A Pentagon official tells CNN, no senior Defense Department official is the target of such an investigation.

Well, there is a new Pentagon order indicating how stretched the U.S. military is in Iraq. Our Barbara Starr is here to talk about a plan; it affects thousands of soldiers who had plans to retire or otherwise leave the military.

Barbara, it sounds like they're going to have to rearrange some of those plans?

BARBARA STARR, CNN PENTGON CORRESPONDENT: Indeed, Daryn. Not very likely to make the troops happy at all. The Army has now announced a policy that was partially in place, but now it's going to be standard operating procedure. Any soldiers that are within 90 days of deploying to Iraq or Afghanistan will not be allowed to retire or otherwise leave military service. This is going to apply to any units that are on their way to those overseas deployments. A signal of concern from the Army that it is going to be able to keep enough fully combat-trained soldiers on the job and in those units.

They tell us that if they didn't do this, they would have to look to 4000 new soldiers for each division deployed. And they're worried that they might not have the most combat-trained troops. So this is going to be into place.

And one of the impacts is, of course it's going to keep a soldier on duty for up to 18 months longer, 90 days before deployment, the one-year deployment, 90 days after. So if it catches somebody just as they were about ready to retire or leave, another 18 months on the job. Now, that is raising a lot of questions in the political arena about whether it is still really an all-volunteer force. Presidential candidate John Kerry talk baggage that very point.

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

SEN. JOHN KERRY (D-MA), PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: The guard in the Reserve have been turned into almost active duty. And you have what is a back door draft that has been put into effect. People serving beyond the time of their voluntary service are no longer volunteers.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

STARR: Now, the Pentagon, of course, says this is all very legal, standard procedure when a soldier signs an enlistment contract. There is language that in an emergency, of course, they could be required to stay beyond their term of service. But the Pentagon is concerned about recruiting and retention. Will they still be able to bring in enough people if this kind of policy remains in effect? Very interesting analysis on Capitol Hill from a top military officer about just how long a person can stay in a combat environment.

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

GEN. PETER PACE, VICE CHMN., JOINT CHIEFS: In all of the studies from World War II, and Korea, and Vietnam indicate that at about the one-year mark, a person's -- an individual's personal capacity to endure a combat drops off significantly.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

STARR: One indicator of the concern, again, about recruiting, reports now the Air National Guard, their recruiting is down more than 20 percent -- Daryn.

KAGAN: And we'll have more on the numbers later in the morning. Barbara Starr at the Pentagon.

A meeting going on right now half a world away. It could impact what you pay at the gas pump. The OPEC decision coming up in a live report.

Protecting the homeland, how prepared are police in America's biggest cities? We'll ask an expert about the summer terror threat.

And later, you might recognize her voice from some the biggest movies of the last couple of years. Norwegian born singer, Sissel, is here with us to talk about her new CD and her U.S. tour.

(COMMERCIAL BREAK)

KAGAN: A huge sigh of relief in Texas today, two missing propane delivery trucks were found abandoned. They were about 150 miles from where they were stolen in San Antonio. FBI officials say the trucks held more than five gallons of propane and were still full when they were found. The incident had aroused fears the trucks could be used in terrorist attacks.

Homeland security is the subject of a major exposition right now in the nation's capital. Thomas Frazier is one of the panelists and he is a former police commissioner of Baltimore. Today he is a security consultant and the executive director of the Major Cities Police Chiefs Association Of North America.

Mr. Commissioner, good morning. Thanks for being here with us.

THOMAS FRAZIER, EXEC. DIR., MAJOR CITIES POLICE CHIEFS ASSN. OF NORTH AMERICA: Thanks for having me, appreciate it.

KAGAN: When all you security experts get together in one place, what is the hot topic?

FRAZIER: Well, I think the hot topic is are we prepared? Can we do better? How is the decision-making process coming along? Have we practiced it enough? Do we have the equipment that we need? All of the things that we need to have control of, to have an effective, preventive and response program.

KAGAN: In a short answer, of course, it's a big country with a lot of states and a lot of cities, but is America in a better place today than it was, say, two years ago?

FRAZIER: Yes, I really think it is. There has been tremendous progress among the larger agencies in particular, because they are the focus of the threats. The bigger cities, the larger counties, have spent a tremendous amount of money to equip, and prepare, and train themselves for an attack and to prevent as well. And that has to do with data and radio interoperability, as well as the straightforward planning process.

KAGAN: Let me talk to you about a specific thing that happened last week. We saw Attorney General John Ashcroft and FBI head Mr. Mueller hold this news conference and talk about this terror threat out there. But they didn't have a target. They didn't have a date. They didn't have a plot. They just kind of put it out there. They didn't even raise the terror level. Do you think it's helpful when officials do stuff like that?

FRAZIER: Sure, I do. You know, the more that your law enforcement agencies know, the more that the American public can be aware, I think, makes us better prepared. And intelligence is not always specific. If we have specific intelligence, as to the type of threat or the location of the threat, obviously, we can do a better job. But if we don't have that, the need to be vigilant is still there. and we find it most helpful to have that information from both the Justice Department and the Department of Homeland Security.

KAGAN: But where do you draw the line between being aware, and being scared, and then eventually being numb because there are so many conferences like this and then nothing happens?

FRAZIER: Well, I think you can -- you always have to be vigilant. I don't think you can be numbed to it, especially in the law enforcement world. The police chiefs across this country are aware that radical Islam is a threat that's not going to go away. We have to be ready and we have to take all of the threats seriously, and continue to be as vigilant as we can be. I think we owe it to those who live in the communities where we serve.

KAGAN: Well, and let's take it a step outside the experts that are gathered with you there. The average citizen, the first news watch in this program right now, what should they be doing to help keep themselves safe? FRAZIER: Sure. I think there are some things that can be done. In a number of the scenarios, you're probably better staying at home. And to prepare your home, I think it's important. I think to be aware of what's going on around you. There are things that communities see that they can report to their local enforcement agencies who may find that it's nothing. But they may find that it's something.

And it's a process of working together, community oriented policing is really at the root of community support for law enforcement. And we need that part just as much as we need the top down kind of intelligency comes from the international collection agencies.

KAGAN: Thomas Frazier, thank you for joining us today.

FRAZIER: Thank you, Daryn.

KAGAN: Severe weather in the Sooner State. High winds and shattered windows, find out where the storms are heading now.

Plus, pumping up. Will more OPEC oil mean more money in your wallet? Checking the pain at the gas pump, that's straight ahead.

(COMMERCIAL BREAK)

KAGAN: Downtown Tulsa, Oklahoma took a lashing yesterday. Winds clocking at 80 miles per hour, that was enough to blow out some of the windows at a 15-story building. Most employees are staying home today, while engineers access the damage. Which means, there might be a lot of folks, if they have power, tuning in to find out what is in store today.

Coming up on CNN LIVE TODAY, in this hour, President Bush has been talking with a lawyer. We'll tell you what they're discussing. A live report from the White House is ahead.

And could relief at the gas pumps be on the way? Find out when we go live to Beirut, of all places, for details on the OPEC meeting.

TO ORDER A VIDEO OF THIS TRANSCRIPT, PLEASE CALL 800-CNN-NEWS OR USE OUR SECURE ONLINE ORDER FORM LOCATED AT www.fdch.com