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Civilian Spaceship One Makes Space History; Megafest to Draw 100,000 for Spiritual Rally in Atlanta
Aired June 21, 2004 - 11:30 ET
THIS IS A RUSH TRANSCRIPT. THIS COPY MAY NOT BE IN ITS FINAL FORM AND MAY BE UPDATED.
THIS IS A RUSH TRANSCRIPT. THIS COPY MAY NOT BE IN ITS FINAL FORM AND MAY BE UPDATED.
DARYN KAGAN, ANCHOR: And a divided vote in the Supreme Court this morning. By a 5-4 vote, the court held that people have no constitutional right to refuse to tell police their names.
Privacy advocates regard this as a defeat. The court upheld the conviction of a Nevada man who refused to give police his name during a roadside stop.
There is more grim news from Iraq, with the death of four U.S. Marines killed in action today. With the latest on that and other news from Iraq, let's go to CNN's Kathleen Koch at the Pentagon -- Kathleen.
KATHLEEN KOCH, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Daryn, a sad discovery in the a Al-Anbar province of Iraq today.
Four U.S. Marines who were patrolling near the city of Ramadi did not report in this morning at the time that they should have. Spokesman Brigadier General Mark Kimmitt says at that point a quick reaction force was sent to their location, and it found the bodies of the four men.
Kimmitt says that no other further will be given out on the incident, on just what happened, until the families have been notified.
Coalition forces are also at this point aiding in the search for that South Korean man who was right now being held hostage by Iraqi militants. His captors, as we all know, have threatened to behead 33- year-old Kim Song-Il unless South Korea drops its plans to begin sending forces to Iraq.
Coalition authorities this morning insisted that they're doing everything they can to find and free the hostage.
(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)
DAN SENOR, COALITION AUTHORITY SPOKESMAN: This is tragic and we will put all the necessary resources, both military and intelligence resources, behind the safe rescue of any hostage, including this gentleman from Korea.
(END VIDEO CLIP)
KOCH: South Korean government does continue to stick to his plans to begin in the month of August to start sending some 3,000 South Korean troops to Iraq. They say their foreign policy will not be dictated by terrorists.
And by those 3,000 forces joining the coalition, it will make them the third largest participant, behind Great Britain and the U.S. -- Daryn.
KAGAN: Kathleen Koch at the Pentagon. Kathleen, thank you for that.
Now for some literally uplifting news, uplifting into space and some space history, let's go back live to the Mojave Desert and our Miles O'Brien -- Miles.
MILES O'BRIEN, CNN CORRESPONDENT: I like that.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I think I'll back off for a little bit and ride my bike.
O'BRIEN: We're here at the Mojave, and we can call it a spaceport now. The pilot and the designer of the Spaceship One, which just a few moments ago flew to space, the first private astronaut in a private craft.
Let's listen, if we can. I don't know if you can hear it in there -- I hope you can, to Burt Rutan, the designer of the craft.
BURT RUTAN, DESIGNER OF SPACESHIP ONE: Because we reached a specific part in the flight where we had gotten over a milestone, you know like when the feather comes up and when it comes down, and it's locked, and when we have a good light off, and of course, when we go above 100 kilometers.
So up there in mission control, there were three or four times during the flight in which everybody who you saw introduced there at mission control last night, saw you these people extremely emotional and of course, I didn't -- I wasn't up there for the landing. I came down and I was right here for landing.
But the way you guys felt when you saw it touch down, we felt that several times up in mission control at other portions of the flight.
I am absolutely delighted that what I laid out in 1999, about 2000 when this configuration design was finalists. And still a lot of refinement out of that, but it looked pretty much like this in 1999.
I'm absolutely delighted that we've been able to make a manned space flight and it still looks like that. Because we did take a lot of risks. It looks a little different. There are some things on the tail and that thing in front of the tail just over the Spaceship One sign, those were added because I failed to design that right.
But other than that, it looks like what it did in my mind back in 1999, and I just can't tell you how pleased I am that the feather, which was our big risk, it worked perfect, and how pleased I am that we have a ship that can not only go to space, but it's the first time that a winged vehicle that can make this beautiful landing on a runway -- it's the first time that a winged vehicle it have a care-free re- entry, and that is an enormous thing for safety.
I watched it in real time from a video camera, which was mounted on the tail, looking forward, and what we thought would be our biggest risk in this program was supersonic feather, and supersonic feather is a nonevent. Well, talk to us -- talk to us about the difference between supersonic and subsonic feather.
MIKE MELVILL, SPACESHIP ONE PILOT: The supersonic feather -- Burt's right. It is a nonevent competitor subsonic feather. When I'm subsonic below the Mach one, the airplane sloshes around a lot and really rattles a lot and it bounces you in the seat.
Supersonic you don't get that. It's very smooth, but you can hear this incredibly rushing sound like some hurricane coming by. At almost Mach three there's a lot of breeze blowing, and the thing has just got a high frequency sort of roar to it that's very, very intimidating.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: How did the F-G deceleration feel?
MELVILL: The 5-G deceleration felt like, you know, I felt it this time. Last time I didn't notice it, but this time, I did feel it, and I'm very thankful that I spent some time in that extra, building up my G tolerance.
So yesterday, I was out pulling 7-Gs over the top of you guys, and today I only went to five, a little bit over five. And so it felt like very little to me.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: (UNINTELLIGIBLE)
MELVILL: Bang, I think it was the fairing (ph) buckling on the back, the buckle on the bottom of the fairing (ph).
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: (UNINTELLIGIBLE)
MELVILL: The colors were -- were pretty staggering from up there, looking at the Earth from up there is, you know, it's almost a religious experience. It's an awesome thing to see. You can see the curvature of the Earth.
I could see all the way out, way out past lake, past the islands off the coast of Los Angeles, and I could see all the way up almost to Bishop. I could see way out to the coastline. I could see to San Diego. So you got a hell of a view from 60, 62 miles.
One more. One more.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: (UNINTELLIGIBLE)
MELVILL: Say again?
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: (UNINTELLIGIBLE)
MELVILL: Any time. Thank you very much, guys. I don't know.
O'BRIEN: Sixty-two-year-old Michael Melvill goes in the history books alongside Gregorian and Shepard.
RUTAN: ... of the press conference, which will be in about an hour and a half.
O'BRIEN: Paving the way -- paving the way for a new generation, perhaps, of civilian spacefarers, at least that's the hope here. Lots of optimistic talk today as they pull this feat off.
They're not going to stop. They're going to go after that $10 million X Prize, which means they've got to do this twice in as many weeks. That should be coming soon.
Burt Rutan, the man with the industrial-strength sideburns you saw there, is a guy who doesn't like to announce his intentions. But I suspect very soon, they'll be going after that $10 million prize, and they certainly are the odds-on favorite among about 10 teams going after it.
What that means after that, get -- get your seat belts buckled, Daryn. Get ready for a ride to space.
KAGAN: I'm on board. Looking forward to that. Miles, thank you. We'll be back to you in the Mojave Desert. History being made. Thank you.
He is one of the most dynamic speakers in America. Just ask the more than 100,000 people who will gather in Atlanta to hear him speak. The Bishop T.D. Jakes is my guest, live, coming up.
And later, Harry the healer? Find out why some say "Harry Potter" is teaching kids to take care of themselves.
(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)
MARK WILLIAMS, ACTOR: Just swear to me you won't go looking for Black.
DANIEL RADCLIFFE, ACTOR: Why would I go looking for someone who wants to kill me?
GARY OLDMAN, ACTOR: Harry Potter!
RUPERT GRINT, ACTOR: There's something moving out there.
DAVID THEWLIS, ACTOR: it was a Dementor.
(END VIDEO CLIP)
(COMMERCIAL BREAK)
(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)
BISHOP T.D. JAKES, EVANGELIST: You came to see T.D. Jakes, but the devil is alive. You didn't come to see T.D. Jake? I (UNINTELLIGIBLE) Jesus. I can hear it.
(END VIDEO CLIP)
KAGAN: His conferences attract tens of thousands of Christians to events like "Woman, Thou Art Loosed" and "Manpower."
Today we're going to start a new regular segment here on CNN LIVE TODAY. We're calling it "Your Spirit," the positive stories of millions Americans seeking their own personal spirituality.
More than 100,000 people are expected to gather here in Atlanta this week. Noted pastor and evangelist Bishop T.D. Jakes hosting an event he is calling "Megafest 2004" right in Atlanta. And we have taken a little bit of his time before things get started.
Bishop Jakes, good morning.
JAKES: Thank you, Daryn.
KAGAN: Thanks for being here with us.
JAKES: I'm glad to be here with you.
KAGAN: What do you think is going on, not just in America, but around the world? Do you sense -- And you've been in the business awhile. Do you sense more people are seeking their own personal spirituality at this time?
JAKES: I certainly do. After 27 years in the ministry I've watched trends come and go. But this thing is very, very different. People are starting to explore spirituality in unprecedented ways today.
KAGAN: Also about 100,000 people, maybe more, you would suggest, coming here.
JAKES: Yes.
KAGAN: If 100,000 people were gathering for a horse race in Kentucky or a car race in Indianapolis, there would be huge coverage and yet, barely mentioned in the secular media. What do you think -- What's missing with that kind of coverage?
JAKES: I think the secular media is just beginning to pick up the radar screen of what's going on with people with spirituality. It wasn't always like that.
But with Megafest, 55 countries have responded from all of the world. They're coming from Italy, Japan, from Australia, seeking spirituality, fellowship.
Our focus on families, and everybody either has one or wants one or deals with one. And we're trying to be a compass and a guide to show people to show how to better work their family through the vicissitudes of life.
KAGAN: One thing that's interesting about you is your message. It's not all sugar coated. You have some direct messages for the people you're talking to.
Let's talk about "Manpower" first.
JAKES: Yes.
KAGAN: Men, not specifically African-American men, but this is a large part of your audience. You talk about taking responsibility and stop for someone to throw your party. Go out there and throw your own party.
JAKES: You know, it's critically important that we understand that we -- we are empowered with our choices, that we live off of the benefits, the fruits of our choices, and so directing them to better understand that you're not looking for somebody to make you happy.
You have to make yourself happy. Empower yourself, bring out the better part of you, not the worst part, is something that men relate to. I see myself as a coach in some ways, encouraging men to make the best, even when it's a bad situation.
KAGAN: Is it controversial to tell African-American men, don't whine, stop blaming other people for your problems and take responsibility?
JAKES: I don't think so. I think African-American men are hungry for fatherhood, for leadership and for direction. And our response has been very, very positive, not only with African American men, but men across the board. Busy men seldom take time to allow anybody to challenge them any more.
KAGAN: And for women, the title of that seminar is called "Woman, Thou Art Loosed."
JAKES: Yes.
KAGAN: First of all, what does that mean?
JAKES: OK. It's...
KAGAN: And it looks like it's a message of hope.
JAKES: It is a message of hope. It's taken out of the Bible. It a phrase that's "woman, thou art loosed." It says that you're loosed from your pain, from your bondage, from your fear, from your past.
Many times women harbor issues, past relationships that cause them to be broken emotionally, and it is a message of healing and hope and empowerment for women. Very positive.
We're also dealing with their children, since there's an unprecedented amount of single mothers in the world today. For them to be able to bring their children into an environment where they can be encouraged and coached to develop spirituality.
And we're going to have some fun, too. We're going to have some basketball games. And we've got a Women of Purpose concert going on, Patti LaBelle, India.Arie, Shirley Caesar, a grocery list of people coming to honor Dorothy Height, one of the great civil rights leaders.
So we've got circuses for the kids. So it's not just going to be all work and no play. It's going to be a lot of fun at Megafest.
KAGAN: You have this message that has touched a lot of people. It has brought you incredible success.
With that, can come material success. You go on the Internet, and you type in "T.D. Jakes," there's some criticism. People say, "Look, he lives in a fancy house in West Virginia. He wears nice suits. He drives a fancy car."
How do you put that together: preaching the word of God but also having financial success?
JAKES: Well, you know something? The real challenge to put together is all the different hats I wear. I'm a preacher, and that's what he people see on TV. I'm also an author; I write a lot of books. I own my own record label.
I wear a lot of hats. There are a lot of reasons for the success and the liabilities of success. And I think it makes me a good candidate to speak to not only men who are down and out but men who are up and out, stressed out, overworked. I have credibility with them, because I also suffer from the same syndromes, being a workaholic.
And then understanding that you have to leave room in your life for spirituality, and you have to leave room in your life for God. The money means nothing if you don't have spiritual wealth, that internal substance and staying power that makes you feel good about yourself at the end of the day.
KAGAN: Well, you'll be sharing those feelings with many, many people here in Atlanta this week.
Bishop Jakes, thank you.
JAKES: Thank you very much, Daryn. My pleasure.
KAGAN: Thank you, Bishop T.D. Jakes. Appreciate your time.
The newest Harry Potter film can help young people confront their fears and overcome them, according to a psychologist.
Sid Brown is a psychologist in Bethesda, Maryland. He tells "USA Today" the film is a tribute to perseverance and resilience.
But other child experts say the movie's dark themes may end up frightening younger viewers. And that parents are the ones who should decide whether it's too intense for their own children.
You can get your daily dose of health news online. Log onto our web site. You'll find the latest medical news, a health library and information on diet and fitness. The address is CNN.com/health.
We are back in a moment.
(COMMERCIAL BREAK)
(STOCK REPORT)
(COMMERCIAL BREAK)
KAGAN: What is the best British album of all time? Believe it or not, it doesn't come from these guys, from the Beatles.
So says England's "Observer Music Monthly." It's publishing what it calls the definitive list of the 100 greatest British album ever.
Topping the list, 1989 self-titled album from The Stone Roses. The Beatles' "Revolver" is No. 2. "London Calling" from the Clash is No. 3. "Astral Weeks" by Van Morrison, No. 4. The Beatles' "Sergeant Pepper" and "The White Album" are numbers five and six.
The Rolling Stones' "Sticky Fingers" and "Exile on Main Street" are numbers seven and eight. Excuse me, "Blue Lines" from Massive Attack is No. 9, and the Sex Pistols didn't make the top 10, but lead singer John Leyton's other band, PIL did. Their "Metal Box" is No. 10.
At least three people have been killed as a powerful typhoon lashed Japan. Some gusts were clocked at more than 100 miles per hour. The Japanese weather agency recorded waves as high as 40 feet.
Two college students were found dead after they were swept off the beach by waves. Another man died while wind surfing.
Jacqui Jeras is here to explain typhoons, hurricanes and another part of the world.
(WEATHER REPORT)
KAGAN: Thank you for that. That will do it for me, Daryn Kagan. I will be right back here tomorrow morning. Wolf Blitzer takes over from Washington, D.C.
Hi, Wolf.
WOLF BLITZER, ANCHOR: Hi, Daryn. Thanks very much.
Unfolding this hour, several important new developments, including a military judge. He rules that two top United States generals in Iraq will, repeat, will have to face questions in the trials of soldiers accused in the prisoner abuse scandal.
With nine days left before the handover of power, there's word right now that four more U.S. Marines have been killed in Iraq.
A controversial claim by Islamic terrorists. Did Saudi security forces actually help in the plot against the American hostage, Paul Johnson?
And a return to Earth, with acclaim to aviation history. The first privately developed rocket plane soaring into space, and carrying with it a civilian.
We'll get to all of that. First, some other headlines we're following right now.
Iran now says it does have eight British sailors under interrogation after seizing their vessels in Iranian waters. London confirms contact was lost with three small boats, and a coalition spokesman of Baghdad says the boats were part of a British training mission that left the Iraqi port of Basra.
We're following this story.
Under threat of impeachment, the embattled Connecticut governor has reportedly announced he will resign. Republican John Rowland is set to make that announcement, according to these reports, this evening.
Rowland has been accused of accepting gifts in exchange for political favors.
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Aired June 21, 2004 - 11:30 ET
THIS IS A RUSH TRANSCRIPT. THIS COPY MAY NOT BE IN ITS FINAL FORM AND MAY BE UPDATED.
DARYN KAGAN, ANCHOR: And a divided vote in the Supreme Court this morning. By a 5-4 vote, the court held that people have no constitutional right to refuse to tell police their names.
Privacy advocates regard this as a defeat. The court upheld the conviction of a Nevada man who refused to give police his name during a roadside stop.
There is more grim news from Iraq, with the death of four U.S. Marines killed in action today. With the latest on that and other news from Iraq, let's go to CNN's Kathleen Koch at the Pentagon -- Kathleen.
KATHLEEN KOCH, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Daryn, a sad discovery in the a Al-Anbar province of Iraq today.
Four U.S. Marines who were patrolling near the city of Ramadi did not report in this morning at the time that they should have. Spokesman Brigadier General Mark Kimmitt says at that point a quick reaction force was sent to their location, and it found the bodies of the four men.
Kimmitt says that no other further will be given out on the incident, on just what happened, until the families have been notified.
Coalition forces are also at this point aiding in the search for that South Korean man who was right now being held hostage by Iraqi militants. His captors, as we all know, have threatened to behead 33- year-old Kim Song-Il unless South Korea drops its plans to begin sending forces to Iraq.
Coalition authorities this morning insisted that they're doing everything they can to find and free the hostage.
(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)
DAN SENOR, COALITION AUTHORITY SPOKESMAN: This is tragic and we will put all the necessary resources, both military and intelligence resources, behind the safe rescue of any hostage, including this gentleman from Korea.
(END VIDEO CLIP)
KOCH: South Korean government does continue to stick to his plans to begin in the month of August to start sending some 3,000 South Korean troops to Iraq. They say their foreign policy will not be dictated by terrorists.
And by those 3,000 forces joining the coalition, it will make them the third largest participant, behind Great Britain and the U.S. -- Daryn.
KAGAN: Kathleen Koch at the Pentagon. Kathleen, thank you for that.
Now for some literally uplifting news, uplifting into space and some space history, let's go back live to the Mojave Desert and our Miles O'Brien -- Miles.
MILES O'BRIEN, CNN CORRESPONDENT: I like that.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I think I'll back off for a little bit and ride my bike.
O'BRIEN: We're here at the Mojave, and we can call it a spaceport now. The pilot and the designer of the Spaceship One, which just a few moments ago flew to space, the first private astronaut in a private craft.
Let's listen, if we can. I don't know if you can hear it in there -- I hope you can, to Burt Rutan, the designer of the craft.
BURT RUTAN, DESIGNER OF SPACESHIP ONE: Because we reached a specific part in the flight where we had gotten over a milestone, you know like when the feather comes up and when it comes down, and it's locked, and when we have a good light off, and of course, when we go above 100 kilometers.
So up there in mission control, there were three or four times during the flight in which everybody who you saw introduced there at mission control last night, saw you these people extremely emotional and of course, I didn't -- I wasn't up there for the landing. I came down and I was right here for landing.
But the way you guys felt when you saw it touch down, we felt that several times up in mission control at other portions of the flight.
I am absolutely delighted that what I laid out in 1999, about 2000 when this configuration design was finalists. And still a lot of refinement out of that, but it looked pretty much like this in 1999.
I'm absolutely delighted that we've been able to make a manned space flight and it still looks like that. Because we did take a lot of risks. It looks a little different. There are some things on the tail and that thing in front of the tail just over the Spaceship One sign, those were added because I failed to design that right.
But other than that, it looks like what it did in my mind back in 1999, and I just can't tell you how pleased I am that the feather, which was our big risk, it worked perfect, and how pleased I am that we have a ship that can not only go to space, but it's the first time that a winged vehicle that can make this beautiful landing on a runway -- it's the first time that a winged vehicle it have a care-free re- entry, and that is an enormous thing for safety.
I watched it in real time from a video camera, which was mounted on the tail, looking forward, and what we thought would be our biggest risk in this program was supersonic feather, and supersonic feather is a nonevent. Well, talk to us -- talk to us about the difference between supersonic and subsonic feather.
MIKE MELVILL, SPACESHIP ONE PILOT: The supersonic feather -- Burt's right. It is a nonevent competitor subsonic feather. When I'm subsonic below the Mach one, the airplane sloshes around a lot and really rattles a lot and it bounces you in the seat.
Supersonic you don't get that. It's very smooth, but you can hear this incredibly rushing sound like some hurricane coming by. At almost Mach three there's a lot of breeze blowing, and the thing has just got a high frequency sort of roar to it that's very, very intimidating.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: How did the F-G deceleration feel?
MELVILL: The 5-G deceleration felt like, you know, I felt it this time. Last time I didn't notice it, but this time, I did feel it, and I'm very thankful that I spent some time in that extra, building up my G tolerance.
So yesterday, I was out pulling 7-Gs over the top of you guys, and today I only went to five, a little bit over five. And so it felt like very little to me.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: (UNINTELLIGIBLE)
MELVILL: Bang, I think it was the fairing (ph) buckling on the back, the buckle on the bottom of the fairing (ph).
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: (UNINTELLIGIBLE)
MELVILL: The colors were -- were pretty staggering from up there, looking at the Earth from up there is, you know, it's almost a religious experience. It's an awesome thing to see. You can see the curvature of the Earth.
I could see all the way out, way out past lake, past the islands off the coast of Los Angeles, and I could see all the way up almost to Bishop. I could see way out to the coastline. I could see to San Diego. So you got a hell of a view from 60, 62 miles.
One more. One more.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: (UNINTELLIGIBLE)
MELVILL: Say again?
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: (UNINTELLIGIBLE)
MELVILL: Any time. Thank you very much, guys. I don't know.
O'BRIEN: Sixty-two-year-old Michael Melvill goes in the history books alongside Gregorian and Shepard.
RUTAN: ... of the press conference, which will be in about an hour and a half.
O'BRIEN: Paving the way -- paving the way for a new generation, perhaps, of civilian spacefarers, at least that's the hope here. Lots of optimistic talk today as they pull this feat off.
They're not going to stop. They're going to go after that $10 million X Prize, which means they've got to do this twice in as many weeks. That should be coming soon.
Burt Rutan, the man with the industrial-strength sideburns you saw there, is a guy who doesn't like to announce his intentions. But I suspect very soon, they'll be going after that $10 million prize, and they certainly are the odds-on favorite among about 10 teams going after it.
What that means after that, get -- get your seat belts buckled, Daryn. Get ready for a ride to space.
KAGAN: I'm on board. Looking forward to that. Miles, thank you. We'll be back to you in the Mojave Desert. History being made. Thank you.
He is one of the most dynamic speakers in America. Just ask the more than 100,000 people who will gather in Atlanta to hear him speak. The Bishop T.D. Jakes is my guest, live, coming up.
And later, Harry the healer? Find out why some say "Harry Potter" is teaching kids to take care of themselves.
(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)
MARK WILLIAMS, ACTOR: Just swear to me you won't go looking for Black.
DANIEL RADCLIFFE, ACTOR: Why would I go looking for someone who wants to kill me?
GARY OLDMAN, ACTOR: Harry Potter!
RUPERT GRINT, ACTOR: There's something moving out there.
DAVID THEWLIS, ACTOR: it was a Dementor.
(END VIDEO CLIP)
(COMMERCIAL BREAK)
(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)
BISHOP T.D. JAKES, EVANGELIST: You came to see T.D. Jakes, but the devil is alive. You didn't come to see T.D. Jake? I (UNINTELLIGIBLE) Jesus. I can hear it.
(END VIDEO CLIP)
KAGAN: His conferences attract tens of thousands of Christians to events like "Woman, Thou Art Loosed" and "Manpower."
Today we're going to start a new regular segment here on CNN LIVE TODAY. We're calling it "Your Spirit," the positive stories of millions Americans seeking their own personal spirituality.
More than 100,000 people are expected to gather here in Atlanta this week. Noted pastor and evangelist Bishop T.D. Jakes hosting an event he is calling "Megafest 2004" right in Atlanta. And we have taken a little bit of his time before things get started.
Bishop Jakes, good morning.
JAKES: Thank you, Daryn.
KAGAN: Thanks for being here with us.
JAKES: I'm glad to be here with you.
KAGAN: What do you think is going on, not just in America, but around the world? Do you sense -- And you've been in the business awhile. Do you sense more people are seeking their own personal spirituality at this time?
JAKES: I certainly do. After 27 years in the ministry I've watched trends come and go. But this thing is very, very different. People are starting to explore spirituality in unprecedented ways today.
KAGAN: Also about 100,000 people, maybe more, you would suggest, coming here.
JAKES: Yes.
KAGAN: If 100,000 people were gathering for a horse race in Kentucky or a car race in Indianapolis, there would be huge coverage and yet, barely mentioned in the secular media. What do you think -- What's missing with that kind of coverage?
JAKES: I think the secular media is just beginning to pick up the radar screen of what's going on with people with spirituality. It wasn't always like that.
But with Megafest, 55 countries have responded from all of the world. They're coming from Italy, Japan, from Australia, seeking spirituality, fellowship.
Our focus on families, and everybody either has one or wants one or deals with one. And we're trying to be a compass and a guide to show people to show how to better work their family through the vicissitudes of life.
KAGAN: One thing that's interesting about you is your message. It's not all sugar coated. You have some direct messages for the people you're talking to.
Let's talk about "Manpower" first.
JAKES: Yes.
KAGAN: Men, not specifically African-American men, but this is a large part of your audience. You talk about taking responsibility and stop for someone to throw your party. Go out there and throw your own party.
JAKES: You know, it's critically important that we understand that we -- we are empowered with our choices, that we live off of the benefits, the fruits of our choices, and so directing them to better understand that you're not looking for somebody to make you happy.
You have to make yourself happy. Empower yourself, bring out the better part of you, not the worst part, is something that men relate to. I see myself as a coach in some ways, encouraging men to make the best, even when it's a bad situation.
KAGAN: Is it controversial to tell African-American men, don't whine, stop blaming other people for your problems and take responsibility?
JAKES: I don't think so. I think African-American men are hungry for fatherhood, for leadership and for direction. And our response has been very, very positive, not only with African American men, but men across the board. Busy men seldom take time to allow anybody to challenge them any more.
KAGAN: And for women, the title of that seminar is called "Woman, Thou Art Loosed."
JAKES: Yes.
KAGAN: First of all, what does that mean?
JAKES: OK. It's...
KAGAN: And it looks like it's a message of hope.
JAKES: It is a message of hope. It's taken out of the Bible. It a phrase that's "woman, thou art loosed." It says that you're loosed from your pain, from your bondage, from your fear, from your past.
Many times women harbor issues, past relationships that cause them to be broken emotionally, and it is a message of healing and hope and empowerment for women. Very positive.
We're also dealing with their children, since there's an unprecedented amount of single mothers in the world today. For them to be able to bring their children into an environment where they can be encouraged and coached to develop spirituality.
And we're going to have some fun, too. We're going to have some basketball games. And we've got a Women of Purpose concert going on, Patti LaBelle, India.Arie, Shirley Caesar, a grocery list of people coming to honor Dorothy Height, one of the great civil rights leaders.
So we've got circuses for the kids. So it's not just going to be all work and no play. It's going to be a lot of fun at Megafest.
KAGAN: You have this message that has touched a lot of people. It has brought you incredible success.
With that, can come material success. You go on the Internet, and you type in "T.D. Jakes," there's some criticism. People say, "Look, he lives in a fancy house in West Virginia. He wears nice suits. He drives a fancy car."
How do you put that together: preaching the word of God but also having financial success?
JAKES: Well, you know something? The real challenge to put together is all the different hats I wear. I'm a preacher, and that's what he people see on TV. I'm also an author; I write a lot of books. I own my own record label.
I wear a lot of hats. There are a lot of reasons for the success and the liabilities of success. And I think it makes me a good candidate to speak to not only men who are down and out but men who are up and out, stressed out, overworked. I have credibility with them, because I also suffer from the same syndromes, being a workaholic.
And then understanding that you have to leave room in your life for spirituality, and you have to leave room in your life for God. The money means nothing if you don't have spiritual wealth, that internal substance and staying power that makes you feel good about yourself at the end of the day.
KAGAN: Well, you'll be sharing those feelings with many, many people here in Atlanta this week.
Bishop Jakes, thank you.
JAKES: Thank you very much, Daryn. My pleasure.
KAGAN: Thank you, Bishop T.D. Jakes. Appreciate your time.
The newest Harry Potter film can help young people confront their fears and overcome them, according to a psychologist.
Sid Brown is a psychologist in Bethesda, Maryland. He tells "USA Today" the film is a tribute to perseverance and resilience.
But other child experts say the movie's dark themes may end up frightening younger viewers. And that parents are the ones who should decide whether it's too intense for their own children.
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KAGAN: What is the best British album of all time? Believe it or not, it doesn't come from these guys, from the Beatles.
So says England's "Observer Music Monthly." It's publishing what it calls the definitive list of the 100 greatest British album ever.
Topping the list, 1989 self-titled album from The Stone Roses. The Beatles' "Revolver" is No. 2. "London Calling" from the Clash is No. 3. "Astral Weeks" by Van Morrison, No. 4. The Beatles' "Sergeant Pepper" and "The White Album" are numbers five and six.
The Rolling Stones' "Sticky Fingers" and "Exile on Main Street" are numbers seven and eight. Excuse me, "Blue Lines" from Massive Attack is No. 9, and the Sex Pistols didn't make the top 10, but lead singer John Leyton's other band, PIL did. Their "Metal Box" is No. 10.
At least three people have been killed as a powerful typhoon lashed Japan. Some gusts were clocked at more than 100 miles per hour. The Japanese weather agency recorded waves as high as 40 feet.
Two college students were found dead after they were swept off the beach by waves. Another man died while wind surfing.
Jacqui Jeras is here to explain typhoons, hurricanes and another part of the world.
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KAGAN: Thank you for that. That will do it for me, Daryn Kagan. I will be right back here tomorrow morning. Wolf Blitzer takes over from Washington, D.C.
Hi, Wolf.
WOLF BLITZER, ANCHOR: Hi, Daryn. Thanks very much.
Unfolding this hour, several important new developments, including a military judge. He rules that two top United States generals in Iraq will, repeat, will have to face questions in the trials of soldiers accused in the prisoner abuse scandal.
With nine days left before the handover of power, there's word right now that four more U.S. Marines have been killed in Iraq.
A controversial claim by Islamic terrorists. Did Saudi security forces actually help in the plot against the American hostage, Paul Johnson?
And a return to Earth, with acclaim to aviation history. The first privately developed rocket plane soaring into space, and carrying with it a civilian.
We'll get to all of that. First, some other headlines we're following right now.
Iran now says it does have eight British sailors under interrogation after seizing their vessels in Iranian waters. London confirms contact was lost with three small boats, and a coalition spokesman of Baghdad says the boats were part of a British training mission that left the Iraqi port of Basra.
We're following this story.
Under threat of impeachment, the embattled Connecticut governor has reportedly announced he will resign. Republican John Rowland is set to make that announcement, according to these reports, this evening.
Rowland has been accused of accepting gifts in exchange for political favors.
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