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The Clinton Factor; American Pulse; Daily Dose: Stress, Blood Pressure
Aired June 22, 2004 - 11:31 ET
THIS IS A RUSH TRANSCRIPT. THIS COPY MAY NOT BE IN ITS FINAL FORM AND MAY BE UPDATED.
THIS IS A RUSH TRANSCRIPT. THIS COPY MAY NOT BE IN ITS FINAL FORM AND MAY BE UPDATED.
DARYN KAGAN, CNN ANCHOR: I'm Daryn Kagan at the CNN Center in Atlanta. Let's check the headlines at this hour.
Revised numbers on terrorism show a dramatic increase in terror victims worldwide. That's the conclusion of a new State Department report due out today. An earlier report contained mistakes used by President Bush to claim success in the war on terror.
Ralph Nader has introduced one-time Green Party candidate Peter Camejo as his vice presidential running mate. That comes as the Congressional Black Caucus is getting ready to ask Nader to get out of the race. Some Democrats blame Nader for Al Gore's defeat in the 2000 presidential election.
Connecticut Governor John Rowland has headed off possible impeachment by announcing his resignation. At one time he was once considered a rising star in the Republican Party. Rowland is the subject of a federal corruption investigation.
Mike Tyson has won his battle for a boxing license in New Jersey, but Governor James McGreevey ruled out any Tyson fights at state-owned or operated venues. The last time the former champ tried to get a New Jersey license, the proceedings ended when Tyson cursed at state regulators.
Let's turn to political news now. Bill Clinton's book would probably cause a stir any time, but if you haven't noticed, this is an election year. Still, political analysts are watching and waiting to see what impact Clinton's memoirs might have on John Kerry's chances. And Kerry might have learned a thing or two from Al Gore.
Here's CNN's Bill Schneider.
(BEGIN VIDEOTAPE)
WILLIAM SCHNEIDER, CNN SENIOR POLITICAL ANALYST (voice-over): In 2000, Al Gore was criticized for trying to distance himself from President Clinton. John Kerry doesn't intend to do that.
SEN. JOHN KERRY (D), PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: I welcome the president's book and I welcome the president's book tour. I think that both are going to remind Americans about some very, very good years in terms of the economy of our country and the policy directions we took.
SCHNEIDER: But is the book really reminding Americans about Clinton's policies or something far more controversial, Clinton's character?
DAN RATHER, CBS ANCHOR: He understood from the beginning that questions were going to be asked about what he has called the darker aspects of his personality and his personal life.
SCHNEIDER: Gore tried to distance himself from Clinton's personal problems. That's one of the big reasons he named Senator Joe Lieberman, Clinton's severest Democratic critic, to the ticket. But in the process, Gore failed to embrace Clinton's successful record. Clinton himself is fully aware of the discrepancy, as he explained in "60 Minutes" Sunday night.
WILLIAM J. CLINTON (D), FORMER PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES: I was involved in -- as I tried to say in the book -- two great fights: a struggle with the Republicans over the future of the country, which I won, and a struggle with my old demons, which I lost.
SCHNEIDER: Which struggle do people really want to read about? Kerry wants to remind voters that they were making pots of money under Clinton and that happy days could be here again.
KERRY: So I'm very happy to have the president out there reminding people about the direction that we could go in with different leadership.
SCHNEIDER: Many Clinton policies brought the country together. His behavior and stance on hot-button social issues tore the country apart.
Reviewers in "The New York Times" and "TIME" magazine say, in the book, Clinton's account of his presidency is consumed with settling scores with his tormenters.
MICHAEL DUFFY, "TIME" MAGAZINE WASHINGTON BUREAU CHIEF: The second half of the book about his presidency is really kind of an assault on Ken Starr.
SCHNEIDER: That's likely to bring back memories of the terrible divisions of the country under Clinton, divisions that gave George W. Bush his opening in 2000 to be a uniter, not a divider, a promise polls show he failed to deliver.
Kerry needs to show he can be that uniter. A book that revives memories of how divided the country was under President Clinton won't help.
(on camera): If Clinton's book were called "my record" instead of "My Life," it might help Kerry. But how many people would buy such a book?
Bill Schneider, CNN, Washington.
(END VIDEOTAPE)
KAGAN: Senator John Kerry is being endorsed by a group of 48 Nobel Prize-winning scientists. They believe he would encourage new medical technology more than President Bush. Campaigning yesterday in Denver, Kerry said he would lift barriers to stem cell research. That could lead to cures for diseases like diabetes and Alzheimer's.
(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)
KERRY: I have full faith that our scientists will go forward with the morale compass, with humane values and sound ethics guiding the way. If we pursue the limitless potential of science and trust that we can use it wisely, we will save millions of lives, and we will earn the gratitude of future generations.
(END VIDEO CLIP)
KAGAN: The Nobel scientists believe that Kerry would promote new medical research based on scientific fact. They claim that President Bush is shortchanging scientific research. Their open letter was released by the Democratic presidential candidate's campaign.
Well, now on to the American polls. Our Carlos Watson has been talking with likely voters about education as an issue in the presidential campaign. Here's what he found in a conversation at one school here in Atlanta.
(BEGIN VIDEOTAPE)
CARLOS WATSON, CNN POLITICAL ANALYST: What change would you like to see in the education system over the next four years?
ANNIE BRASSON, DEMOCRAT: Just fund the schools better than they're doing now. You can just take so much in your property tax. And you've got to have someone -- the state, the federal government, whoever -- to pay for the education that we're getting.
WATSON: Margaret, what do you think?
MARGARET BELLA, INDEPENDENT: You have to support the system. But my complaint is the vouchers. They're taking that money out of the system and putting it into private schools. I don't want my tax dollars going to private schools. I want them to go to public schools.
WATSON: Walter, let's go back to you and your thoughts on education, our education system.
WALTER PALMER, DEMOCRAT: Why is it that all school systems are broke? Every school system don't have any money. Bush said no kids are going to be left behind, right? Isn't that what he said?
WATSON: Right.
PALMER: OK? But we're not spending the money on education.
WATSON: Where do you think we're spending it?
PALMER: On the war. If no kid is going to be left behind, put the money in education. BOB DOBER, REPUBLICAN: I think the single biggest detriment to education today is discipline. It's not money. It's discipline in the classrooms. It's not what textbooks they have. It's what the kids do with the textbooks. It's not the teacher who's there. It's the teachers' demoralization because there is no discipline.
WATSON: Rohka, what do you think about that?
ROHKA ALUSHEFF, REPUBLICAN: Well, I think sometimes part of the fault is with the parents because they don't care what their kids do. They're busy working and giving them money to go wherever they want to do. And they don't care what the kids are -- they don't make an effort to make their kids learn.
WATSON: So, you think it's not just on the school systems.
ALUSHEFF: No, it isn't. I think it's just as much fault of the parents.
(END VIDEOTAPE)
KAGAN: Carlos has more of the American Pulse on "PAULA ZAHN NOW." It airs weeknights at 8:00 Eastern, 5:00 Pacific.
Well, we're wondering. Were you a hot-headed 20 something? Are you a hotheaded 20 something? You could be paying the price in your 40s. We will show you how coming up next.
And later, let's see that crocodile hunter guy handle these beasts. We are talking with the star of a new reality show. It's called "Outback Jack." Women go into the Outback without their blow dryers. Can you believe it? And crocodiles. We'll talk with the star just ahead.
(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: I just want some air conditioning, and my mascara is running.
(END VIDEO CLIP)
(COMMERCIAL BREAK)
KAGAN: You can call it a prescription for relaxation or maybe more scientific evidence that keeping calm can be good for your health. Calmly, I introduce medical correspondent Elizabeth Cohen with more on that.
ELIZABETH COHEN, CNN MEDICAL CORRESPONDENT: I've never seen you like this, Daryn.
KAGAN: Why?
COHEN: Is this my friend, Daryn?
KAGAN: Yes. Relax. But you're saying it's good for health. COHEN: It's good for your health not just in the immediate sense, but also in the long-term sense. A fascinating study that has just come out.
What these researchers did is they took folks who were in their 20s, 4,000 of them, and they gave them stressful situations. They had them put their hand in ice water. They had them play a tough video game.
And for some of them, their blood pressure spiked. So you see their blood pressure spikes during stress then. But when they followed these people 20 years later when they were in their 40s, those who had the spikes had a 10 percent increased risk of having hypertension in their 40s. And they're not exactly sure why. They need to do more testing.
Also what they found is that the folks that had the biggest spikes, the highest spikes, had the earliest onset of hypertension. So in other words, how you react to stress, how you deal with stress has an impact on your -- even as a young person, has an impact on your health much later in life.
KAGAN: So does this mean if you're in your 20s, you need to go to the doctor now and find out how you're dealing with stress? You probably know, don't you?
COHEN: To some extent you know. You can't go and get the kind of tests that they did in this study. You can't just go to your internist and say, hey, doctor, give me some ice water and I'll put my hand in it, and we'll see what happens to my blood pressure. But you can probably have a good feeling for how your body deals with stress, how you feel when you're in a stressful situation.
And so, the time to act is now in trying to deal with those situations better so you don't get chronic hypertension later.
Here are some other ways to prevent high blood pressure: Maintain a healthy weight, exercise, avoid eating too much salt, limit the amount of alcohol you drink and stop smoking. So, all of those are ways to try to avoid getting hypertension.
Now, hypertension, I mean, once you're there, it can just be just so tough to deal with. You end up having to take drugs. You can do damage to your kidneys.
KAGAN: A bad thing.
COHEN: It's a bad thing.
KAGAN: So, what if you're stressing about all of those things? You're stressing about your weight. Oh, too much salt. Oh, I'm drinking too much. Oh, I've got to stop smoking.
COHEN: That's right.
KAGAN: I mean, it's a different kind of stress. COHEN: Right, exactly. And I think being reasonable in all ways is really the answer there.
KAGAN: Moderation.
COHEN: Moderation.
KAGAN: And relaxation.
COHEN: And deep breathing.
KAGAN: Yes, deep breathing. We're in favor of that. Thank you for that, Elizabeth Cohen.
You can get your daily dose of health news online. Log on to our Web site. You'll find the latest medical news, a health library and information on diet and fitness. The address is CNN.com/health. We are back in a moment.
(COMMERCIAL BREAK)
KAGAN: We want to check in on business news now. Wal-Mart in the news, and over one million women who at one time have worked for the company might have a legal beef with Wal-Mart.
Here's Mary Snow to tell us more.
(BUSINESS NEWS UPDATE)
KAGAN: We go into the business of reality television. Can one man tame the Australian Outback's newest and most vicious predator? Twelve uptown girls scrap it out over "Outback Jack." It's a new reality series. You're going to meet Outback Jack just ahead.
(COMMERCIAL BREAK)
KAGAN: Think of this one as a cross between "The Bachelor" and "Crocodile Dundee." it's called "Outback Jack." It's a new reality show. It premieres tonight on our sister station, TBS.
I had a chance to talk with Jack. His real name is Vadim Dale.
(BEGIN VIDEOTAPE)
KAGAN: Vadim Dale, Outback Jack. Let's talk about the concept of this show here. There's you and 12 pampered American princesses.
VADIM DALE, JACK: Yes. Basically, Daryn, you know, the uptown beauties from America are sent to the Australian Outback with myself, and they're put through their paces, you know, a fish out of water, so to speak. They're out of their element. And we go on a journey, you know, from one destination to another, experiencing everything in between -- emotion, humor and facing the twists and turns that, you know, face us.
KAGAN: So, the twists come right from the beginning, because these girls didn't know that this was what they were in for. They get all dressed up in evening gowns. They think they're in for a life of luxury.
DALE: Absolutely. Yes, I couldn't believe how these girls were dressed. I didn't expect that. I don't think they expected to be in that sort of terrain. So, that really started the ball off on a humorous note.
(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)
DALE: Well, hello, ladies, welcome to the Outback.
(END VIDEO CLIP)
KAGAN: And so, for some of these girls not having their blow drier is a worse concept than actually facing a crocodile. This is something I can appreciate.
DALE: Yes. Yes, they were just hilarious, these girls. Some of the questions that I was asked, you know, like outlets, and where's the hot showers? And, I mean, I felt sorry for them, to be honest with you. Within the first couple of days, you know, if looks could kill, I'm sure I would have dropped dead a few times.
KAGAN: Let me just understand this. So, they go through all of this misery, all of this camping, all of this roughing it, and, Vadim, you're cute, but you're the prize. Right? That's it. You're the one big prize at the end.
DALE: Yes, there's no million-dollar check at the end of this show. So, yes, basically the show is about, you know, adventure and the possibility of love. And I think that's a good thing to say they're doing the show and not expecting a million dollars at the end of it.
KAGAN: So, let's get to the good part. Is there a love connection? Do you find that special woman at the end of the whole show?
DALE: I find a connection with all of the girls, to be honest with you, from the start. Obviously, I'll have to eliminate them one by one. But I have made a commitment obviously to the final girl. I wouldn't say I'm in love. I will see her once the show finishes airing, and we'll see how we go. Obviously reality shows don't have a good track record.
KAGAN: Right.
DALE: You know...
KAGAN: For love.
DALE: Yes, I can only hope that this is different. But who knows? Anything could happen.
KAGAN: Well, we look forward to seeing the show. It debuts Tuesday, tonight, 9:00 p.m...
DALE: Yes, tonight, yes.
KAGAN: ... on our sister station, TBS. Vadim Dale, "Outback Jack."
DALE: Thank you.
KAGAN: Thank you. Appreciate it.
(END VIDEOTAPE)
See, we have many our Outback Jacqui Jeras.
(WEATHER BREAK)
KAGAN: And that's going to do it for us. Thank you, Jacqui. I'm Daryn Kagan. I'll see you right back here tomorrow morning. Wolf Blitzer takes over from Washington, D.C.
Hi, Wolf.
WOLF BLITZER, CNN ANCHOR: Hi, Daryn. Thanks very much.
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Aired June 22, 2004 - 11:31 ET
THIS IS A RUSH TRANSCRIPT. THIS COPY MAY NOT BE IN ITS FINAL FORM AND MAY BE UPDATED.
DARYN KAGAN, CNN ANCHOR: I'm Daryn Kagan at the CNN Center in Atlanta. Let's check the headlines at this hour.
Revised numbers on terrorism show a dramatic increase in terror victims worldwide. That's the conclusion of a new State Department report due out today. An earlier report contained mistakes used by President Bush to claim success in the war on terror.
Ralph Nader has introduced one-time Green Party candidate Peter Camejo as his vice presidential running mate. That comes as the Congressional Black Caucus is getting ready to ask Nader to get out of the race. Some Democrats blame Nader for Al Gore's defeat in the 2000 presidential election.
Connecticut Governor John Rowland has headed off possible impeachment by announcing his resignation. At one time he was once considered a rising star in the Republican Party. Rowland is the subject of a federal corruption investigation.
Mike Tyson has won his battle for a boxing license in New Jersey, but Governor James McGreevey ruled out any Tyson fights at state-owned or operated venues. The last time the former champ tried to get a New Jersey license, the proceedings ended when Tyson cursed at state regulators.
Let's turn to political news now. Bill Clinton's book would probably cause a stir any time, but if you haven't noticed, this is an election year. Still, political analysts are watching and waiting to see what impact Clinton's memoirs might have on John Kerry's chances. And Kerry might have learned a thing or two from Al Gore.
Here's CNN's Bill Schneider.
(BEGIN VIDEOTAPE)
WILLIAM SCHNEIDER, CNN SENIOR POLITICAL ANALYST (voice-over): In 2000, Al Gore was criticized for trying to distance himself from President Clinton. John Kerry doesn't intend to do that.
SEN. JOHN KERRY (D), PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: I welcome the president's book and I welcome the president's book tour. I think that both are going to remind Americans about some very, very good years in terms of the economy of our country and the policy directions we took.
SCHNEIDER: But is the book really reminding Americans about Clinton's policies or something far more controversial, Clinton's character?
DAN RATHER, CBS ANCHOR: He understood from the beginning that questions were going to be asked about what he has called the darker aspects of his personality and his personal life.
SCHNEIDER: Gore tried to distance himself from Clinton's personal problems. That's one of the big reasons he named Senator Joe Lieberman, Clinton's severest Democratic critic, to the ticket. But in the process, Gore failed to embrace Clinton's successful record. Clinton himself is fully aware of the discrepancy, as he explained in "60 Minutes" Sunday night.
WILLIAM J. CLINTON (D), FORMER PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES: I was involved in -- as I tried to say in the book -- two great fights: a struggle with the Republicans over the future of the country, which I won, and a struggle with my old demons, which I lost.
SCHNEIDER: Which struggle do people really want to read about? Kerry wants to remind voters that they were making pots of money under Clinton and that happy days could be here again.
KERRY: So I'm very happy to have the president out there reminding people about the direction that we could go in with different leadership.
SCHNEIDER: Many Clinton policies brought the country together. His behavior and stance on hot-button social issues tore the country apart.
Reviewers in "The New York Times" and "TIME" magazine say, in the book, Clinton's account of his presidency is consumed with settling scores with his tormenters.
MICHAEL DUFFY, "TIME" MAGAZINE WASHINGTON BUREAU CHIEF: The second half of the book about his presidency is really kind of an assault on Ken Starr.
SCHNEIDER: That's likely to bring back memories of the terrible divisions of the country under Clinton, divisions that gave George W. Bush his opening in 2000 to be a uniter, not a divider, a promise polls show he failed to deliver.
Kerry needs to show he can be that uniter. A book that revives memories of how divided the country was under President Clinton won't help.
(on camera): If Clinton's book were called "my record" instead of "My Life," it might help Kerry. But how many people would buy such a book?
Bill Schneider, CNN, Washington.
(END VIDEOTAPE)
KAGAN: Senator John Kerry is being endorsed by a group of 48 Nobel Prize-winning scientists. They believe he would encourage new medical technology more than President Bush. Campaigning yesterday in Denver, Kerry said he would lift barriers to stem cell research. That could lead to cures for diseases like diabetes and Alzheimer's.
(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)
KERRY: I have full faith that our scientists will go forward with the morale compass, with humane values and sound ethics guiding the way. If we pursue the limitless potential of science and trust that we can use it wisely, we will save millions of lives, and we will earn the gratitude of future generations.
(END VIDEO CLIP)
KAGAN: The Nobel scientists believe that Kerry would promote new medical research based on scientific fact. They claim that President Bush is shortchanging scientific research. Their open letter was released by the Democratic presidential candidate's campaign.
Well, now on to the American polls. Our Carlos Watson has been talking with likely voters about education as an issue in the presidential campaign. Here's what he found in a conversation at one school here in Atlanta.
(BEGIN VIDEOTAPE)
CARLOS WATSON, CNN POLITICAL ANALYST: What change would you like to see in the education system over the next four years?
ANNIE BRASSON, DEMOCRAT: Just fund the schools better than they're doing now. You can just take so much in your property tax. And you've got to have someone -- the state, the federal government, whoever -- to pay for the education that we're getting.
WATSON: Margaret, what do you think?
MARGARET BELLA, INDEPENDENT: You have to support the system. But my complaint is the vouchers. They're taking that money out of the system and putting it into private schools. I don't want my tax dollars going to private schools. I want them to go to public schools.
WATSON: Walter, let's go back to you and your thoughts on education, our education system.
WALTER PALMER, DEMOCRAT: Why is it that all school systems are broke? Every school system don't have any money. Bush said no kids are going to be left behind, right? Isn't that what he said?
WATSON: Right.
PALMER: OK? But we're not spending the money on education.
WATSON: Where do you think we're spending it?
PALMER: On the war. If no kid is going to be left behind, put the money in education. BOB DOBER, REPUBLICAN: I think the single biggest detriment to education today is discipline. It's not money. It's discipline in the classrooms. It's not what textbooks they have. It's what the kids do with the textbooks. It's not the teacher who's there. It's the teachers' demoralization because there is no discipline.
WATSON: Rohka, what do you think about that?
ROHKA ALUSHEFF, REPUBLICAN: Well, I think sometimes part of the fault is with the parents because they don't care what their kids do. They're busy working and giving them money to go wherever they want to do. And they don't care what the kids are -- they don't make an effort to make their kids learn.
WATSON: So, you think it's not just on the school systems.
ALUSHEFF: No, it isn't. I think it's just as much fault of the parents.
(END VIDEOTAPE)
KAGAN: Carlos has more of the American Pulse on "PAULA ZAHN NOW." It airs weeknights at 8:00 Eastern, 5:00 Pacific.
Well, we're wondering. Were you a hot-headed 20 something? Are you a hotheaded 20 something? You could be paying the price in your 40s. We will show you how coming up next.
And later, let's see that crocodile hunter guy handle these beasts. We are talking with the star of a new reality show. It's called "Outback Jack." Women go into the Outback without their blow dryers. Can you believe it? And crocodiles. We'll talk with the star just ahead.
(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: I just want some air conditioning, and my mascara is running.
(END VIDEO CLIP)
(COMMERCIAL BREAK)
KAGAN: You can call it a prescription for relaxation or maybe more scientific evidence that keeping calm can be good for your health. Calmly, I introduce medical correspondent Elizabeth Cohen with more on that.
ELIZABETH COHEN, CNN MEDICAL CORRESPONDENT: I've never seen you like this, Daryn.
KAGAN: Why?
COHEN: Is this my friend, Daryn?
KAGAN: Yes. Relax. But you're saying it's good for health. COHEN: It's good for your health not just in the immediate sense, but also in the long-term sense. A fascinating study that has just come out.
What these researchers did is they took folks who were in their 20s, 4,000 of them, and they gave them stressful situations. They had them put their hand in ice water. They had them play a tough video game.
And for some of them, their blood pressure spiked. So you see their blood pressure spikes during stress then. But when they followed these people 20 years later when they were in their 40s, those who had the spikes had a 10 percent increased risk of having hypertension in their 40s. And they're not exactly sure why. They need to do more testing.
Also what they found is that the folks that had the biggest spikes, the highest spikes, had the earliest onset of hypertension. So in other words, how you react to stress, how you deal with stress has an impact on your -- even as a young person, has an impact on your health much later in life.
KAGAN: So does this mean if you're in your 20s, you need to go to the doctor now and find out how you're dealing with stress? You probably know, don't you?
COHEN: To some extent you know. You can't go and get the kind of tests that they did in this study. You can't just go to your internist and say, hey, doctor, give me some ice water and I'll put my hand in it, and we'll see what happens to my blood pressure. But you can probably have a good feeling for how your body deals with stress, how you feel when you're in a stressful situation.
And so, the time to act is now in trying to deal with those situations better so you don't get chronic hypertension later.
Here are some other ways to prevent high blood pressure: Maintain a healthy weight, exercise, avoid eating too much salt, limit the amount of alcohol you drink and stop smoking. So, all of those are ways to try to avoid getting hypertension.
Now, hypertension, I mean, once you're there, it can just be just so tough to deal with. You end up having to take drugs. You can do damage to your kidneys.
KAGAN: A bad thing.
COHEN: It's a bad thing.
KAGAN: So, what if you're stressing about all of those things? You're stressing about your weight. Oh, too much salt. Oh, I'm drinking too much. Oh, I've got to stop smoking.
COHEN: That's right.
KAGAN: I mean, it's a different kind of stress. COHEN: Right, exactly. And I think being reasonable in all ways is really the answer there.
KAGAN: Moderation.
COHEN: Moderation.
KAGAN: And relaxation.
COHEN: And deep breathing.
KAGAN: Yes, deep breathing. We're in favor of that. Thank you for that, Elizabeth Cohen.
You can get your daily dose of health news online. Log on to our Web site. You'll find the latest medical news, a health library and information on diet and fitness. The address is CNN.com/health. We are back in a moment.
(COMMERCIAL BREAK)
KAGAN: We want to check in on business news now. Wal-Mart in the news, and over one million women who at one time have worked for the company might have a legal beef with Wal-Mart.
Here's Mary Snow to tell us more.
(BUSINESS NEWS UPDATE)
KAGAN: We go into the business of reality television. Can one man tame the Australian Outback's newest and most vicious predator? Twelve uptown girls scrap it out over "Outback Jack." It's a new reality series. You're going to meet Outback Jack just ahead.
(COMMERCIAL BREAK)
KAGAN: Think of this one as a cross between "The Bachelor" and "Crocodile Dundee." it's called "Outback Jack." It's a new reality show. It premieres tonight on our sister station, TBS.
I had a chance to talk with Jack. His real name is Vadim Dale.
(BEGIN VIDEOTAPE)
KAGAN: Vadim Dale, Outback Jack. Let's talk about the concept of this show here. There's you and 12 pampered American princesses.
VADIM DALE, JACK: Yes. Basically, Daryn, you know, the uptown beauties from America are sent to the Australian Outback with myself, and they're put through their paces, you know, a fish out of water, so to speak. They're out of their element. And we go on a journey, you know, from one destination to another, experiencing everything in between -- emotion, humor and facing the twists and turns that, you know, face us.
KAGAN: So, the twists come right from the beginning, because these girls didn't know that this was what they were in for. They get all dressed up in evening gowns. They think they're in for a life of luxury.
DALE: Absolutely. Yes, I couldn't believe how these girls were dressed. I didn't expect that. I don't think they expected to be in that sort of terrain. So, that really started the ball off on a humorous note.
(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)
DALE: Well, hello, ladies, welcome to the Outback.
(END VIDEO CLIP)
KAGAN: And so, for some of these girls not having their blow drier is a worse concept than actually facing a crocodile. This is something I can appreciate.
DALE: Yes. Yes, they were just hilarious, these girls. Some of the questions that I was asked, you know, like outlets, and where's the hot showers? And, I mean, I felt sorry for them, to be honest with you. Within the first couple of days, you know, if looks could kill, I'm sure I would have dropped dead a few times.
KAGAN: Let me just understand this. So, they go through all of this misery, all of this camping, all of this roughing it, and, Vadim, you're cute, but you're the prize. Right? That's it. You're the one big prize at the end.
DALE: Yes, there's no million-dollar check at the end of this show. So, yes, basically the show is about, you know, adventure and the possibility of love. And I think that's a good thing to say they're doing the show and not expecting a million dollars at the end of it.
KAGAN: So, let's get to the good part. Is there a love connection? Do you find that special woman at the end of the whole show?
DALE: I find a connection with all of the girls, to be honest with you, from the start. Obviously, I'll have to eliminate them one by one. But I have made a commitment obviously to the final girl. I wouldn't say I'm in love. I will see her once the show finishes airing, and we'll see how we go. Obviously reality shows don't have a good track record.
KAGAN: Right.
DALE: You know...
KAGAN: For love.
DALE: Yes, I can only hope that this is different. But who knows? Anything could happen.
KAGAN: Well, we look forward to seeing the show. It debuts Tuesday, tonight, 9:00 p.m...
DALE: Yes, tonight, yes.
KAGAN: ... on our sister station, TBS. Vadim Dale, "Outback Jack."
DALE: Thank you.
KAGAN: Thank you. Appreciate it.
(END VIDEOTAPE)
See, we have many our Outback Jacqui Jeras.
(WEATHER BREAK)
KAGAN: And that's going to do it for us. Thank you, Jacqui. I'm Daryn Kagan. I'll see you right back here tomorrow morning. Wolf Blitzer takes over from Washington, D.C.
Hi, Wolf.
WOLF BLITZER, CNN ANCHOR: Hi, Daryn. Thanks very much.
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