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DARYN KAGAN, CNN ANCHOR: I'm Daryn Kagan in Atlanta. Let's check what's happening now in the news for Monday, October 11th.
President Bush is in New Mexico this morning -- a live picture from there. We were just listening in to part of his speech. This is part of a week-long focus on western battleground states. He'll also have stops in Colorado and then it's on to Arizona for the final presidential debate on Wednesday.

Democratic challenger John Kerry is focusing on energy policy and high gas prices in a speech in New Mexico today. Kerry says he'll push for alternative fuels to end America's dependence on foreign oil.

Live pictures from Washington State -- Mount St. Helens letting off a puff of steam in the last hour. Scientists say it's normal activity when hot rocks interact with water. Seismic activity at Mount St. Helens declined to a low level overnight.

And an American and Norwegian shared this year's Nobel Price for Economics. Their research helped explain business cycles and laid the groundwork for an independent central banking system.

Keeping you informed, CNN is the most trusted name in news.

New Mexico, the hot place to be on the presidential campaign trail today. Both candidates are campaigning in that western battleground state today. John Kerry in Santa Fe for a rally. Our Ed Henry is traveling with the Kerry campaign. Ed, good morning.

ED HENRY, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Good morning again, Daryn.

That's right. There's obviously a lot of noise on the campaign trail about this new ad by the Bush campaign, taking John Kerry to task for this "New York Times" magazine interview in which the senator referred to the war on terror, referred to terrorists with the word "nuisance." And there's that new ad by the Bush campaign entitled "Nuisance."

The Kerry campaign response is that the president and his campaign is taking Kerry's words out of context. What they're saying is that the senator was pointing out that he believes he could wage a more effective war on terror that would reduce the terrorists to just a nuisance.

And in fact, the Kerry campaign has a new ad themselves, entitled "Can't Win." And they the president to task for that interview he gave a couple of months back in which, when he was asked about the war on terror, the president said, quote, "I don't think you can win it." Obviously, the Kerry campaign trying to point out that there have been a lot of things said in this campaign and that they're not going to sit back quietly while the Bush campaign fires away.

Even as we see this back and forth on national security, between the Bush and Kerry camps, the focus, though, is going to be turning to domestic issues. Because I'm in Santa Fe right now with Senator Kerry, because he's going to be here for two days for final preparations for that final presidential debate in the neighboring state of Arizona, where the focus in that debate will be domestic issues.

And in fact, John Kerry wants to talk about energy, as you mentioned, today. And you're going to see a lot riding on that final debate on domestic issues as we reach the final, critical three weeks of this campaign.

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SEN. JOHN KERRY (D-MA), PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: Are you ready for new leadership?

HENRY (voice-over): John Kerry spent the weekend in the battleground states of Ohio and Florida. He basked in the glow of what he believes was another strong performance in Friday night's second presidential debate.

KERRY: Most stunning moment of the whole evening was when George Bush was asked to name three mistakes that he has made. To name three mistakes -- and the president couldn't even name one mistake...

HENRY: Republicans, though, said Kerry contradicted himself again on Iraq.

KERRY: I do believe Saddam Hussein was a threat. I always believed he was a threat.

The president has been preoccupied with Iraq where there wasn't a threat.

HENRY: After reading those quotes to a crowd in Florida, Vice President Cheney ridiculed Kerry.

DICK CHENEY (R), VICE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES: That's unbelievable. It's -- well, it's mind boggling.

HENRY: But Kerry has been buoyed by a rise in the polls, and allies think he's crossed a key threshold.

GOV. BILL RICHARDSON (D), NEW MEXICO: The two debates that have taken place have shown to a lot of voters in America, especially undecided voters, that Senator Kerry has the strength, the character, the background to be president. He's fit to be commander-in-chief.

HENRY: Kerry believes he's passed that test on national security -- the president's strength. Now the senator is pivoting to his turf, the domestic agenda, the focus of this week's third debate.

KERRY: I'm going to fight for your jobs. I'm going to fight for your prescription drugs. I'm going to fight for your healthcare. I'm going to fight for your schools. I'm going to be a president who fights harder for your jobs than I do for my own.

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HENRY (on camera): And John Kerry will keep the focus on domestic issues when this event behind me in Santa Fe begins in a little less than a half hour. It will focus on energy reform, but we're told that John Kerry will briefly mention stem-cell research in the context of the death of Christopher Reeve -- Daryn?

KAGAN: All right. And more on Christopher Reeve in just a moment.

Ed, we need to leave you to go live to Aventura, Florida. We have some live pictures coming in -- a boat fire. This is actually looking a little better, believe it or not, as the moments go on. This is a boat on fire, very close to the dock there.

Now, the boat is adrift, and we're watching live pictures as Miami-Dade firefighters try to get a grip on this. The problem is the boat is adrift and they can only get it from one side. And they're afraid as it gets a little bit closer that it could also catch those other boats on fire.

Now, we're hearing no injuries reported so far. The challenge right now for firefighters in Aventura, Florida, to try to get the flames out on that boat before it can catch on fire with the other boats or the dock.

Talk about military draft is a very worrisome issue for a lot of voters this election season. Our senior political correspondent Bill Schneider takes a look at that.

(BEGIN VIDEOTAPE)

WILLIAM SCHNEIDER, CNN SR. POLITICAL CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): It's the issue that won't go away despite the best efforts of Republicans to kill it.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Mr. President, since we continue to police the world, how do you intend to maintain our military presence without reinstituting a draft?

SCHNEIDER: The president's answer sounded definitive.

GEORGE W. BUSH (R), PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES: I hear there's rumors on the Internets (sic) that we're going to have a draft. We're not going to have a draft. Period.

SCHNEIDER: The focus group ratings soared when the president said that. Two-thirds of Americans oppose re-instating the draft, according to one poll. Another poll shows that a majority of 18 to 29-year-olds believes President Bush does favor reinstating the draft.

Last month, Senator Kerry was asked if he thought there could be a draft.

KERRY: If George Bush were to be re-elected, given the way he has gone about this war and given his avoidance of responsibility in North Korea and Iran and other places, it is possible. I can't tell you. I will tell you this: I will not reinstate the draft.

SCHNEIDER: With that, the Web started buzzes with warnings of the real threat of a draft and Pentagon discussions of a new draft.

REP. CHARLIE RANGEL (D), NEW YORK: People who just don't believe the president, don't believe in the war, believe that he's going to start a draft, and for a lot of good reasons.

SCHNEIDER: Like what?

KERRY: Our military is overextended under this president. Our Guard and Reserves have been turned into almost active duty.

SCHNEIDER: The secretary of defense denies that the military is overextended.

DONALD RUMSFELD, SECRETARY OF DEFENSE: We are having no trouble attracting and retaining the people we need.

SCHNEIDER: Nearly two years ago, Congressman Rangel co-sponsored a bill to reinstate the draft. It has been languishing in the House of Representatives until last week, when the Republican majority in Congress brought the bill up in order to kill it. Republicans are determined to shut the issue down.

SEN. BILL FRIST (R), MAJORITY LEADER: And from the leadership of the United States Senate, it is a non-issue. And it's one that's not going to be addressed.

SCHNEIDER: Democrats are just as determined to keep it alive.

RANGEL: You cannot be for this war and against a draft.

SCHNEIDER (on camera): Concern about a draft is a powerful issue, not just with young people, but also with their parents, who faced the draft themselves during the Vietnam era.

Bill Schneider, CNN, Washington.

(END VIDEOTAPE)

KAGAN: You'll be able to see the third and final presidential debate Wednesday night from Arizona State University, ASU, home to the Sun Devils. Live coverage begins at 7:00 Eastern on CNN with the debate at 9:00 p.m.

Are you ready to hit the road this holiday season? Up next, we're going to show you top getaways picked by the travelers for the travelers. They're not cheap. I'll tell that you now, just so you know. You can dream a little bit.

And we are going live back to our very fun makeover. Lori Ovitz, working on breast cancer patient Christine Jackson -- looking very lovely. I don't know if Christine can see all of it yet, but we're going to give her a look and give you a look just ahead. Also talk about how a new face in the mirror can help make a difference in her fight against breast cancer.

We'll see the results, coming up.

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KAGAN: Live picture once again from Aventura, Florida -- a boat on fire. Firefighters from Miami-Dade doing their best to extinguish these flames on the boat before it can light the dock or other nearby boats on fire. We understand there are no injuries reported at this time. The boat's been on fire for about 15 minutes. And firefighters there with their work cut out for them.

Holiday -- the holiday travel season is rapidly approaching. "Conde Nast Traveler" is taking some of the guesswork out of family destinations for Thanksgiving, Christmas, and New Year's. Readers -- the readers making their choices on the best of the best in world travel for November's issue.

Dana Dickey is senior editor at "Conde Nast Traveler" joining me from Time Warner Center in New York City. Good morning. Dana, can you hear us?

DANA DICKEY, SR. EDITOR, "CONDE NAST TRAVELER": Good morning.

KAGAN: Good morning. OK. We're talking about doing some getaways, everyone not wanting to stay home for Thanksgiving, Christmas, and New Year's. So, let's get right to some of these destinations, including the Bahamas.

DICKEY: Sorry, we're having some audio trouble.

KAGAN: OK. All right. Well, need a little vacation from that. Dana, thank you. We're going to work on fixing that and the little bug there. We're also going to talk about a different type of bug just ahead -- the flu, the vaccine controversy: Is it making Wall Street sick? Business news coming up next.

(COMMERCIAL BREAK)

(STOCK MARKET REPORT)

KAGAN: All right, Rhonda. Thank you for that. We have a transformation. It's complete.

We're going take you back to the CNN makeup room and give you an update on our makeover with Lori Ovitz. Wow, Christine Jackson looking great.

CHRISTINE JACKSON, BREAST CANCER PATIENT: Thank you. KAGAN: You like?

JACKSON: I feel great.

KAGAN: Good. Well, you should, because you look fantastic. We're going to bring both you and Lori out in just a few minutes. And we're going to talk about what -- the magic that you're able to work there, Lori, and some other tips that could help other breast cancer patients out there. So, we are going to do that in just a bit.

Right now, though, a quick break.

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KAGAN: All right. Let's try take two here on the holiday travel season rapidly approaching. "Conde Nast Traveler," taking some of the guesswork out of the family destinations for Thanksgiving, Christmas, and New Year's. Readers made their choices on the best of the best of the world travel for November's issue.

Now, Dana Dickey, can you hear us OK?

DICKEY: Good to be here, Daryn.

KAGAN: OK, good. Let's go -- let's not waste any time -- let's go right to the Bahamas.

DICKEY: Well, the Bahamas, 20,000 readers voted the Bahamas the place to go this year. Starting out with the one and only Ocean Club -- this is a veritable luxurious getaway. It has an 18-hole golf course. Dune, the first island restaurant by award-winning chef Jean- Geores Vongerichten. And this is number one in the Americas.

KAGAN: Now, we're not looking for bargains here, right?

DICKEY: Well, no, you're not looking for bargains here. That's going to be, say, around $440 a night. But there are also a few places in the Bahamas that we recommend, also. Nettie's Different of Abaco is a place that's less than $200 a night, and you're staying in an eco reserve with rustic luxury.

KAGAN: OK.

DICKEY: And The Landing on Harbour Island, which is a plantation-style resort that's only steps away from that sandy beach.

KAGAN: Let's keep it in the U.S. What about New York City? What are you recommending?

DICKEY: Well, it's been a good year for our Mr. Trump, because his Trump International Hotel and Tower was voted the number one U.S. hotel by our readers. And it has -- it's -- actually, it's rooms are more like apartments, not even hotel rooms. They've got floor-to- ceiling windows overlooking Central Park, and this time with the fall foliage, it's just an incredible, incredible view.

KAGAN: It is pretty. I was just there over the weekend.

How about in my home state of California? Laguna Beach -- not too bad to spend the holidays on the beach.

DICKEY: The OC is hot. Laguna Beach's Montage Resort & Spa is the number two U.S. resort. And it has an incredible indoor/outdoor spa. It has numerous restaurants and pools. And the view over the Pacific is not to be believed.

KAGAN: But there's also great views in the mountains. So, what if you're looking to go skiing -- perhaps in Whistler?

DICKEY: That's right. The Fairmont Chateau Whistler is just nestled 550 rooms at the base of Blackcomb Mountain. So, this is great ski in/ski out service, which is sort of the no-fuss, no-muss, lots of times on the slopes that you need.

KAGAN: And finally, just to round out our geographic locations -- the desert -- Carefree, Arizona, just north of Phoenix.

DICKEY: Well, the Boulders Resort & Spa is just north of Scottsdale in the middle of that beautiful rocky sort of Spartan atmosphere that you can go hiking in. And rooms are in casedas (ph). And here's a tip: Rooms are something close to $500 a night now. But between December 5th and December 16th, they go down to $250 a night.

KAGAN: All right. Well, thanks for the tips. As I said, a little expensive, but we can dream and perhaps save up, as well.

DICKEY: Well, happy holidays.

KAGAN: Thank you. First one to mention that. Dana Dickey, thank you for that.

Well, it is breast cancer awareness month, and this hour, we're looking at makeup can make a big difference in the lives of women battling the disease. Makeup artist Lori Ovitz and breast cancer patient Christine Jackson were in our makeup room earlier for a demonstration. They are here with the after.

Nice to meet you in person and to see the fabulous work.

JACKSON: Thank you.

KAGAN: As I said, you had good work -- a good model.

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KAGAN: Tell us a little about your fight with breast cancer. Where are you in your treatment?

JACKSON: Well, I was diagnosed in May. And I've had three treatments so far.

KAGAN: Of chemotherapy? JACKSON: Chemotherapy. I've had a mastectomy in June. And they're going as well as to be expected. I have a few more to go and then radiation. And it's just, you know, wonderful to have Lori to work on me and make me look like I used to be, to some degree.

KAGAN: What about the psychological effects? I thought you made an interesting point, because people think about losing hair, but you don't think about losing eyelashes and eyebrows.

JACKSON: Yes, that's right. And that happened probably after the second treatment. I noticed a loss, and it just really changes the way you look when you look at yourself in the mirror and how you go about your day, realizing that you don't -- you just don't look the same.

KAGAN: OK. So, Lori, come in with some of the tips on what you did, so both people at home can see and also when Christine is not with you by her side. Some of the things that she can...

LORI OVITZ, MAKEUP ARTIST: Thank you. Well, actually, the best part about the book is, the book is exactly the way I teach. So, it was -- it's word for word, exactly how the lesson goes. And I think a big tip, too, is with the eyebrows. It's really hard.

Diagnosis is hard enough to deal with. You don't really want to get into the whole makeup issues. And as your hair starts to come out, you know, it's a very traumatic experience, I'm sure.

JACKSON: Absolutely.

OVITZ: But the good thing is that they do come back and they will come back. And this is also to get you well. But for when you don't know where to put your eyebrows, it's great to just feel and touch where to put your eyebrows. Then, my technique is to just make slight, feathery strokes with -- of a pencil that will match your -- a little bit darker than your hair color. Then, go over it again in light, feathery motions with a powder. And it'll lock it in.

There's great tricks in there. So, if you're complete at (ph) a loss, besides being able to feel where to put them is how to line up exactly, and then that's like your little map.

Also for the lashes, I mean, today Christine's eyelashes are fake, and they look completely real.

KAGAN: But they look great. Who cares?

OVITZ: ... look great. And the eyeliner on the bottom, a little technique into how it kind of looks like the illusion that you have bottom eyelashes. Also how to pick up tired eyes.

And the best part is, is that she can go home and she can do it all by herself.

KAGAN: Excellent. In our final seconds, Christine, the difference it makes in you of how you feel. JACKSON: I just -- I feel good. I'm ready to go out, and I feel glamorous again.

KAGAN: Well, you look great. The book, once again, "Facing the Mirror with Cancer." Good luck with the book. And Christine, good luck with your fight.

JACKSON: Thank you very much.

KAGAN: Appreciate it.

As I was telling you in the break, a cause near and dear to our hearts: my mother, a breast cancer survivor; Jacqui Jeras' mother a breast cancer survivor, as well.

Jacqui has a look at weather -- Jacqui?

(WEATHER REPORT)

KAGAN: All right, Jacqui, thank you for that.

That's going to do it for me, Daryn Kagan. I'll be right back with you here tomorrow morning. Wolf Blitzer taking over -- Wolf?

WOLF BLITZER, CNN ANCHOR: Thanks very much, Daryn. Very interesting information about breast cancer. Appreciate that series you're doing.

We have a busy hour we're following on CNN. We'll get to all of that. First some headlines now in the news.

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THIS IS A RUSH TRANSCRIPT. THIS COPY MAY NOT BE IN ITS FINAL FORM AND MAY BE UPDATED.
DARYN KAGAN, CNN ANCHOR: I'm Daryn Kagan in Atlanta. Let's check what's happening now in the news for Monday, October 11th.
President Bush is in New Mexico this morning -- a live picture from there. We were just listening in to part of his speech. This is part of a week-long focus on western battleground states. He'll also have stops in Colorado and then it's on to Arizona for the final presidential debate on Wednesday.

Democratic challenger John Kerry is focusing on energy policy and high gas prices in a speech in New Mexico today. Kerry says he'll push for alternative fuels to end America's dependence on foreign oil.

Live pictures from Washington State -- Mount St. Helens letting off a puff of steam in the last hour. Scientists say it's normal activity when hot rocks interact with water. Seismic activity at Mount St. Helens declined to a low level overnight.

And an American and Norwegian shared this year's Nobel Price for Economics. Their research helped explain business cycles and laid the groundwork for an independent central banking system.

Keeping you informed, CNN is the most trusted name in news.

New Mexico, the hot place to be on the presidential campaign trail today. Both candidates are campaigning in that western battleground state today. John Kerry in Santa Fe for a rally. Our Ed Henry is traveling with the Kerry campaign. Ed, good morning.

ED HENRY, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Good morning again, Daryn.

That's right. There's obviously a lot of noise on the campaign trail about this new ad by the Bush campaign, taking John Kerry to task for this "New York Times" magazine interview in which the senator referred to the war on terror, referred to terrorists with the word "nuisance." And there's that new ad by the Bush campaign entitled "Nuisance."

The Kerry campaign response is that the president and his campaign is taking Kerry's words out of context. What they're saying is that the senator was pointing out that he believes he could wage a more effective war on terror that would reduce the terrorists to just a nuisance.

And in fact, the Kerry campaign has a new ad themselves, entitled "Can't Win." And they the president to task for that interview he gave a couple of months back in which, when he was asked about the war on terror, the president said, quote, "I don't think you can win it." Obviously, the Kerry campaign trying to point out that there have been a lot of things said in this campaign and that they're not going to sit back quietly while the Bush campaign fires away.

Even as we see this back and forth on national security, between the Bush and Kerry camps, the focus, though, is going to be turning to domestic issues. Because I'm in Santa Fe right now with Senator Kerry, because he's going to be here for two days for final preparations for that final presidential debate in the neighboring state of Arizona, where the focus in that debate will be domestic issues.

And in fact, John Kerry wants to talk about energy, as you mentioned, today. And you're going to see a lot riding on that final debate on domestic issues as we reach the final, critical three weeks of this campaign.

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SEN. JOHN KERRY (D-MA), PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: Are you ready for new leadership?

HENRY (voice-over): John Kerry spent the weekend in the battleground states of Ohio and Florida. He basked in the glow of what he believes was another strong performance in Friday night's second presidential debate.

KERRY: Most stunning moment of the whole evening was when George Bush was asked to name three mistakes that he has made. To name three mistakes -- and the president couldn't even name one mistake...

HENRY: Republicans, though, said Kerry contradicted himself again on Iraq.

KERRY: I do believe Saddam Hussein was a threat. I always believed he was a threat.

The president has been preoccupied with Iraq where there wasn't a threat.

HENRY: After reading those quotes to a crowd in Florida, Vice President Cheney ridiculed Kerry.

DICK CHENEY (R), VICE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES: That's unbelievable. It's -- well, it's mind boggling.

HENRY: But Kerry has been buoyed by a rise in the polls, and allies think he's crossed a key threshold.

GOV. BILL RICHARDSON (D), NEW MEXICO: The two debates that have taken place have shown to a lot of voters in America, especially undecided voters, that Senator Kerry has the strength, the character, the background to be president. He's fit to be commander-in-chief.

HENRY: Kerry believes he's passed that test on national security -- the president's strength. Now the senator is pivoting to his turf, the domestic agenda, the focus of this week's third debate.

KERRY: I'm going to fight for your jobs. I'm going to fight for your prescription drugs. I'm going to fight for your healthcare. I'm going to fight for your schools. I'm going to be a president who fights harder for your jobs than I do for my own.

(END VIDEOTAPE)

HENRY (on camera): And John Kerry will keep the focus on domestic issues when this event behind me in Santa Fe begins in a little less than a half hour. It will focus on energy reform, but we're told that John Kerry will briefly mention stem-cell research in the context of the death of Christopher Reeve -- Daryn?

KAGAN: All right. And more on Christopher Reeve in just a moment.

Ed, we need to leave you to go live to Aventura, Florida. We have some live pictures coming in -- a boat fire. This is actually looking a little better, believe it or not, as the moments go on. This is a boat on fire, very close to the dock there.

Now, the boat is adrift, and we're watching live pictures as Miami-Dade firefighters try to get a grip on this. The problem is the boat is adrift and they can only get it from one side. And they're afraid as it gets a little bit closer that it could also catch those other boats on fire.

Now, we're hearing no injuries reported so far. The challenge right now for firefighters in Aventura, Florida, to try to get the flames out on that boat before it can catch on fire with the other boats or the dock.

Talk about military draft is a very worrisome issue for a lot of voters this election season. Our senior political correspondent Bill Schneider takes a look at that.

(BEGIN VIDEOTAPE)

WILLIAM SCHNEIDER, CNN SR. POLITICAL CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): It's the issue that won't go away despite the best efforts of Republicans to kill it.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Mr. President, since we continue to police the world, how do you intend to maintain our military presence without reinstituting a draft?

SCHNEIDER: The president's answer sounded definitive.

GEORGE W. BUSH (R), PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES: I hear there's rumors on the Internets (sic) that we're going to have a draft. We're not going to have a draft. Period.

SCHNEIDER: The focus group ratings soared when the president said that. Two-thirds of Americans oppose re-instating the draft, according to one poll. Another poll shows that a majority of 18 to 29-year-olds believes President Bush does favor reinstating the draft.

Last month, Senator Kerry was asked if he thought there could be a draft.

KERRY: If George Bush were to be re-elected, given the way he has gone about this war and given his avoidance of responsibility in North Korea and Iran and other places, it is possible. I can't tell you. I will tell you this: I will not reinstate the draft.

SCHNEIDER: With that, the Web started buzzes with warnings of the real threat of a draft and Pentagon discussions of a new draft.

REP. CHARLIE RANGEL (D), NEW YORK: People who just don't believe the president, don't believe in the war, believe that he's going to start a draft, and for a lot of good reasons.

SCHNEIDER: Like what?

KERRY: Our military is overextended under this president. Our Guard and Reserves have been turned into almost active duty.

SCHNEIDER: The secretary of defense denies that the military is overextended.

DONALD RUMSFELD, SECRETARY OF DEFENSE: We are having no trouble attracting and retaining the people we need.

SCHNEIDER: Nearly two years ago, Congressman Rangel co-sponsored a bill to reinstate the draft. It has been languishing in the House of Representatives until last week, when the Republican majority in Congress brought the bill up in order to kill it. Republicans are determined to shut the issue down.

SEN. BILL FRIST (R), MAJORITY LEADER: And from the leadership of the United States Senate, it is a non-issue. And it's one that's not going to be addressed.

SCHNEIDER: Democrats are just as determined to keep it alive.

RANGEL: You cannot be for this war and against a draft.

SCHNEIDER (on camera): Concern about a draft is a powerful issue, not just with young people, but also with their parents, who faced the draft themselves during the Vietnam era.

Bill Schneider, CNN, Washington.

(END VIDEOTAPE)

KAGAN: You'll be able to see the third and final presidential debate Wednesday night from Arizona State University, ASU, home to the Sun Devils. Live coverage begins at 7:00 Eastern on CNN with the debate at 9:00 p.m.

Are you ready to hit the road this holiday season? Up next, we're going to show you top getaways picked by the travelers for the travelers. They're not cheap. I'll tell that you now, just so you know. You can dream a little bit.

And we are going live back to our very fun makeover. Lori Ovitz, working on breast cancer patient Christine Jackson -- looking very lovely. I don't know if Christine can see all of it yet, but we're going to give her a look and give you a look just ahead. Also talk about how a new face in the mirror can help make a difference in her fight against breast cancer.

We'll see the results, coming up.

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KAGAN: Live picture once again from Aventura, Florida -- a boat on fire. Firefighters from Miami-Dade doing their best to extinguish these flames on the boat before it can light the dock or other nearby boats on fire. We understand there are no injuries reported at this time. The boat's been on fire for about 15 minutes. And firefighters there with their work cut out for them.

Holiday -- the holiday travel season is rapidly approaching. "Conde Nast Traveler" is taking some of the guesswork out of family destinations for Thanksgiving, Christmas, and New Year's. Readers -- the readers making their choices on the best of the best in world travel for November's issue.

Dana Dickey is senior editor at "Conde Nast Traveler" joining me from Time Warner Center in New York City. Good morning. Dana, can you hear us?

DANA DICKEY, SR. EDITOR, "CONDE NAST TRAVELER": Good morning.

KAGAN: Good morning. OK. We're talking about doing some getaways, everyone not wanting to stay home for Thanksgiving, Christmas, and New Year's. So, let's get right to some of these destinations, including the Bahamas.

DICKEY: Sorry, we're having some audio trouble.

KAGAN: OK. All right. Well, need a little vacation from that. Dana, thank you. We're going to work on fixing that and the little bug there. We're also going to talk about a different type of bug just ahead -- the flu, the vaccine controversy: Is it making Wall Street sick? Business news coming up next.

(COMMERCIAL BREAK)

(STOCK MARKET REPORT)

KAGAN: All right, Rhonda. Thank you for that. We have a transformation. It's complete.

We're going take you back to the CNN makeup room and give you an update on our makeover with Lori Ovitz. Wow, Christine Jackson looking great.

CHRISTINE JACKSON, BREAST CANCER PATIENT: Thank you. KAGAN: You like?

JACKSON: I feel great.

KAGAN: Good. Well, you should, because you look fantastic. We're going to bring both you and Lori out in just a few minutes. And we're going to talk about what -- the magic that you're able to work there, Lori, and some other tips that could help other breast cancer patients out there. So, we are going to do that in just a bit.

Right now, though, a quick break.

(COMMERCIAL BREAK)

KAGAN: All right. Let's try take two here on the holiday travel season rapidly approaching. "Conde Nast Traveler," taking some of the guesswork out of the family destinations for Thanksgiving, Christmas, and New Year's. Readers made their choices on the best of the best of the world travel for November's issue.

Now, Dana Dickey, can you hear us OK?

DICKEY: Good to be here, Daryn.

KAGAN: OK, good. Let's go -- let's not waste any time -- let's go right to the Bahamas.

DICKEY: Well, the Bahamas, 20,000 readers voted the Bahamas the place to go this year. Starting out with the one and only Ocean Club -- this is a veritable luxurious getaway. It has an 18-hole golf course. Dune, the first island restaurant by award-winning chef Jean- Geores Vongerichten. And this is number one in the Americas.

KAGAN: Now, we're not looking for bargains here, right?

DICKEY: Well, no, you're not looking for bargains here. That's going to be, say, around $440 a night. But there are also a few places in the Bahamas that we recommend, also. Nettie's Different of Abaco is a place that's less than $200 a night, and you're staying in an eco reserve with rustic luxury.

KAGAN: OK.

DICKEY: And The Landing on Harbour Island, which is a plantation-style resort that's only steps away from that sandy beach.

KAGAN: Let's keep it in the U.S. What about New York City? What are you recommending?

DICKEY: Well, it's been a good year for our Mr. Trump, because his Trump International Hotel and Tower was voted the number one U.S. hotel by our readers. And it has -- it's -- actually, it's rooms are more like apartments, not even hotel rooms. They've got floor-to- ceiling windows overlooking Central Park, and this time with the fall foliage, it's just an incredible, incredible view.

KAGAN: It is pretty. I was just there over the weekend.

How about in my home state of California? Laguna Beach -- not too bad to spend the holidays on the beach.

DICKEY: The OC is hot. Laguna Beach's Montage Resort & Spa is the number two U.S. resort. And it has an incredible indoor/outdoor spa. It has numerous restaurants and pools. And the view over the Pacific is not to be believed.

KAGAN: But there's also great views in the mountains. So, what if you're looking to go skiing -- perhaps in Whistler?

DICKEY: That's right. The Fairmont Chateau Whistler is just nestled 550 rooms at the base of Blackcomb Mountain. So, this is great ski in/ski out service, which is sort of the no-fuss, no-muss, lots of times on the slopes that you need.

KAGAN: And finally, just to round out our geographic locations -- the desert -- Carefree, Arizona, just north of Phoenix.

DICKEY: Well, the Boulders Resort & Spa is just north of Scottsdale in the middle of that beautiful rocky sort of Spartan atmosphere that you can go hiking in. And rooms are in casedas (ph). And here's a tip: Rooms are something close to $500 a night now. But between December 5th and December 16th, they go down to $250 a night.

KAGAN: All right. Well, thanks for the tips. As I said, a little expensive, but we can dream and perhaps save up, as well.

DICKEY: Well, happy holidays.

KAGAN: Thank you. First one to mention that. Dana Dickey, thank you for that.

Well, it is breast cancer awareness month, and this hour, we're looking at makeup can make a big difference in the lives of women battling the disease. Makeup artist Lori Ovitz and breast cancer patient Christine Jackson were in our makeup room earlier for a demonstration. They are here with the after.

Nice to meet you in person and to see the fabulous work.

JACKSON: Thank you.

KAGAN: As I said, you had good work -- a good model.

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KAGAN: Tell us a little about your fight with breast cancer. Where are you in your treatment?

JACKSON: Well, I was diagnosed in May. And I've had three treatments so far.

KAGAN: Of chemotherapy? JACKSON: Chemotherapy. I've had a mastectomy in June. And they're going as well as to be expected. I have a few more to go and then radiation. And it's just, you know, wonderful to have Lori to work on me and make me look like I used to be, to some degree.

KAGAN: What about the psychological effects? I thought you made an interesting point, because people think about losing hair, but you don't think about losing eyelashes and eyebrows.

JACKSON: Yes, that's right. And that happened probably after the second treatment. I noticed a loss, and it just really changes the way you look when you look at yourself in the mirror and how you go about your day, realizing that you don't -- you just don't look the same.

KAGAN: OK. So, Lori, come in with some of the tips on what you did, so both people at home can see and also when Christine is not with you by her side. Some of the things that she can...

LORI OVITZ, MAKEUP ARTIST: Thank you. Well, actually, the best part about the book is, the book is exactly the way I teach. So, it was -- it's word for word, exactly how the lesson goes. And I think a big tip, too, is with the eyebrows. It's really hard.

Diagnosis is hard enough to deal with. You don't really want to get into the whole makeup issues. And as your hair starts to come out, you know, it's a very traumatic experience, I'm sure.

JACKSON: Absolutely.

OVITZ: But the good thing is that they do come back and they will come back. And this is also to get you well. But for when you don't know where to put your eyebrows, it's great to just feel and touch where to put your eyebrows. Then, my technique is to just make slight, feathery strokes with -- of a pencil that will match your -- a little bit darker than your hair color. Then, go over it again in light, feathery motions with a powder. And it'll lock it in.

There's great tricks in there. So, if you're complete at (ph) a loss, besides being able to feel where to put them is how to line up exactly, and then that's like your little map.

Also for the lashes, I mean, today Christine's eyelashes are fake, and they look completely real.

KAGAN: But they look great. Who cares?

OVITZ: ... look great. And the eyeliner on the bottom, a little technique into how it kind of looks like the illusion that you have bottom eyelashes. Also how to pick up tired eyes.

And the best part is, is that she can go home and she can do it all by herself.

KAGAN: Excellent. In our final seconds, Christine, the difference it makes in you of how you feel. JACKSON: I just -- I feel good. I'm ready to go out, and I feel glamorous again.

KAGAN: Well, you look great. The book, once again, "Facing the Mirror with Cancer." Good luck with the book. And Christine, good luck with your fight.

JACKSON: Thank you very much.

KAGAN: Appreciate it.

As I was telling you in the break, a cause near and dear to our hearts: my mother, a breast cancer survivor; Jacqui Jeras' mother a breast cancer survivor, as well.

Jacqui has a look at weather -- Jacqui?

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KAGAN: All right, Jacqui, thank you for that.

That's going to do it for me, Daryn Kagan. I'll be right back with you here tomorrow morning. Wolf Blitzer taking over -- Wolf?

WOLF BLITZER, CNN ANCHOR: Thanks very much, Daryn. Very interesting information about breast cancer. Appreciate that series you're doing.

We have a busy hour we're following on CNN. We'll get to all of that. First some headlines now in the news.

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