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President Bush Making Flight to Chile Today to Meet With Leaders From Other Pacific Rim Nations; 'Daily Dose'

Aired November 19, 2004 - 11:33   ET

THIS IS A RUSH TRANSCRIPT. THIS COPY MAY NOT BE IN ITS FINAL FORM AND MAY BE UPDATED.

THIS IS A RUSH TRANSCRIPT. THIS COPY MAY NOT BE IN ITS FINAL FORM AND MAY BE UPDATED.


FREDRICKA WHITFIELD, CNN ANCHOR: Coming up on the last half now, I'm Fredricka Whitfield.
RICK SANCHEZ, CNN ANCHOR: And I'm Rick Sanchez. And here's what's happening right now in the news. We begin again with more violence in Baghdad, where a car bomb targeted Iraqi police at a checkpoint, killed five, wounded 10 at last count. Also a firefight erupted not far from there, just outside a mosque after some people in the crowd opened fire on the Iraqi national guard. A cleric had just delivered a harsh sermon against the offensive in Falluja prior to it.

President Bush is set to OK a new limit on the national debt. Congress has approved an $800 billion increase to how much money our government can spend -- of our money, we should say. The vote raises the debt limit to a whopping $8.2 trillion.

House Ethics Committee leaders say the complaint that led to the October rebuke of Republican leader Tom DeLay is filled with exaggerations, thus violating a committee rule barring innuendo and speculation. DeLay spoke to reporters about these accusations.

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

REP. TOM DELAY (R), MAJORITY LEADER: By the Ethic's Committee action yesterday, they confirmed Chris Bell's utter contempt for Congress. And by continuing their announced strategy to forego the battle of ideas, and instead personally attack Republican leaders, the Democratic Party has confirmed its utter contempt for the boundaries of political discourse.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

SANCHEZ: The complaint was brought by Texas Democratic Congressman Chris Bell, who as you heard mentioned there, said DeLay had solicited a bribe. Bell lost a bid for re-election. DeLay is the object of an ongoing criminal probe in the state of Texas.

More troubles for pop star Michael Jackson. His former herbalist is suing him for $1.2 million. Alfreda Bauman (ph) says that he was on call 24/7, and the entertainer has not paid him for six months of exclusive services, he says. Jackson's attorney has not commented on the suit.

Keeping you informed, CNN, the most trusted name in news.

WHITFIELD: Let's move along now to the summit in Santiago, President Bush is making the nine-hour flight to Chile today to meet with leaders from 20 other Pacific Rim nations.

CNN's Lucia Newman is on hand for the APEC Conference, shorthand for Asia Pacific Economic Cooperation -- Lucia.

LUCIA NEWMAN, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Hello, Fredricka.

Well, security in this normally peaceful and very quiet South American capital is really unprecedented. There are police on horseback, special forces are deployed all over the city to protect the 21 leaders, including President Bush, who is expected to arrive here this evening.

Now, as has become very common place at these economic summits, there have been protests. Earlier this morning, a group of protesters clashed with police in downtown Santiago. They had not been authorized to protest against the summit. But at the same time, and in fact at this very moment, another, much larger march is lining up. It was peaceful, it was authorized by the authorities, but it was very, very much directed against the U.S. president. When I asked some of the people there why complain only about President Bush, there are 21 other leaders in all, they said that it's because President George Bush represents for them everything that's wrong with the world.

(BEGIN VIDEOTAPE)

NEWMAN (voice-over): Not so long ago, the visit of a U.S. president to Chile inspired more flattering coverage, but then, times have changed.

"We reject the warlike attitude of the United States against world peace," says this man.

But it's not just criticism of the Iraq war and the growth of globalization. Staunch supporters of free trade complained that since 9/11, the White House has ignored Latin America. That's why at the APEC Summit, the United States traditional backyard partners are looking past their northern neighbors and focusing their gaze to the east, toward Asia, especially China, to do business.

ALEJANDRO POXLEY, FMR. CHILEAN FINANCE MINISTER: They contracted for 20 years in which you have a partner that will buy everything for the next generation, and that, as I say, gives a tremendous stability to the economy in Latin America.

NEWMAN: The interest is mutual. After visiting Latin American giants Brazil and Argentina, China's president arrived in Santiago, not just to attend APEC, but to discuss a free trade agreement with Chile, the world's No. 1 copper producer.

Latin American commodities, from minerals to meat, are being gobbled up by China, which is quickly displacing the United States as the region's No. 1 trading partner.

Alejandro Poxley says the U.S. needs to rapidly take a more multilateral approach toward Latin America, and not just on security. POXLEY: You either cooperate and build bridges with everybody, or you will be a losing partner in globalization.

(END VIDEOTAPE)

NEWMAN: Now, this region's Asian lovefest has not gone unnoticed by Washington, according to U.S. sources. Now, just what the United States plans to do about it may begin to be answered this weekend here in Santiago -- Fredricka.

WHITFIELD: All right, Lucia Newman, thanks so much for that live report.

Something else that's taking place in Chile, perhaps not related to APEC, something you could do today that you couldn't do before -- get a divorce. The country's new divorce law took effect today. Long lines reported at courthouses all over. Before today, couples had to get an annulment, often contriving situations to meet the criteria. The heavily Roman Catholic country was among the last in the world without a divorce law. You can't -- you still, however, cannot, get one in Malta or the Philippines.

SANCHEZ: Well, the FDA is coming under fire. Questions are being raised about the approval of the drug Vioxx.

WHITFIELD: And a dress-up day at an east Texas school is banned. We'll tell you why are the kids are now told to wear camouflage.

We're back right after this.

(COMMERCIAL BREAK)

WHITFIELD: Officials say the fallout over Vioxx has exposed potential shortcomings in how new medicines come to market.

CNN medical correspondent Elizabeth Cohen takes a closer look now.

(BEGIN VIDEOTAPE)

ELIZABETH COHEN, CNN MEDICAL CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): The Vioxx hearings have left many people wondering how could a drug that causes heart attacks get approved by the Food and Drug Administration? Doesn't the United States have the best, most rigorous drug approval process in the world?

The answer to that question has to do with a common misperception. Many people think it's the FDA that conducts studies on drugs before they go on the market. In fact, the pharmaceutical companies do the studies on their own drugs. The FDA just reviews their data. And more and more observers, such as Dr. Jerry Avorn, author of the book "Powerful Medicines," thinks this system doesn't make much sense.

DR. JERRY AVORN, HARVARD MEDICAL SCHOOL: I think we need to have a more vigilant and aggressive FDA. COHEN: One problem, he says, the salaries of the FDA reviewers are paid in part by the drug companies. The pharmaceutical industry spends hundreds of millions of dollars on so-called user fees to the FDA and some say that makes for too cozy of a relationship.

AVORN: And it really needs to be a tough agency that is going to really ask some very demanding questions, because we're talking about chemicals that people put into their body that can alter their health for good or for ill.

ALAN GOLDHAMMER, PHARMACEUTICAL RESEARCH AND MANUFACTURERS ASSOCIATION OF AMERICA: We've seen these allegations of the coziness between the industry and the Food and Drug Administration. We think that they really are not true.

COHEN: In fact, the pharmaceutical industry says...

GOLDHAMMER: The process for approving new drugs by the Food and Drug Administration is working quite well.

COHEN: The industry points out that it spends years testing each drug on animals and then on humans, and the FDA then takes about a year to review those studies and often asks for even more data. But others say that pulling Vioxx and other drugs off the market because of safety worries is proof that somehow, somewhere the system is falling short.

Elizabeth Cohen, CNN, Atlanta.

(END VIDEOTAPE)

WHITFIELD: An update now on the health of the President Bush's next pick for secretary of state. Condoleezza Rice apparently has had successful surgery of a remove of some noncancerous fibroids in her uterus, and she is at Georgetown University Hospital, where she will stay for the night to continue to recover, but looks live everything worked out well for her, the 50-year-old, who is the president's next pick for the U.S. secretary of state. Her successful surgery is now complete -- Rick.

SANCHEZ: Well, they have got issues, they have got kids, they have got mortgages. They have serious issues, in fact. Up next, housewives on Prozac. They also have great music, and it proves that you can fit your guitars and your amps perfectly into a minivan if you're a working mom.

WHITFIELD: And it's nothing short of an honor in this business. Find out what Jon Stewart has to say about, well, you.

SANCHEZ: Me?

WHITFIELD: Yes.

SANCHEZ: Oh, no.

(COMMERCIAL BREAK) WHITFIELD: A Texas school has scrapped a homecoming week tradition because of a parent's concern about gender identity. One day a year at schools in the town of Spurger, Texas, boys would dress as girls and girls as boys, but a parent complained, suggesting such an event could encourage children to become cross-dressers, or even homosexuals.

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: The girls dress up as guys and the guys dress up in girls clothes, but it ain't nothing bad. I mean, it's not cross-dressing or anything.

DELANA DAVIES, COMPLAINING PARENT: It might be fun to dress up like a girl, and you know, and kids think it's cute and things like that, and then you start playing around with it, and like drugs, you do a little bit here and there, and eventually it gets you.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

WHITFIELD: So, here's the compromise. Instead of boys dressed in skirts, many students came to school dressed in camouflage.

SANCHEZ: Now, we want you to meet someone who also wears interesting garbs, a rocker mom who is no desperate housewife. She's part of an all-female band called Housewives on Prozac, six women singing about mom's life through songs like "The Housewives Lament," and, you're going to love this one, "Shut Up and Eat Your Damn Spaghetti." Their new CD is titled, "I Broke My Arm Christmas Shopping at the Mall and Others." Now, I had a chance to speak with her. Her name is Joy Rose. I think you're going to enjoy her.

(BEGIN VIDEOTAPE)

SANCHEZ: Joy Rose is joining us, and the band is called Housewives on Prozac. I guess the first thing I've got to ask you, is how did you come up with the name?

JOY ROSE, SINGER, "HOUSEWIVES ON PROZAC": Hey, it's a metaphor for what women go through, I think, as moms. It's -- motherhood could be a challenging job and we all want to be happy. So it's about the women that are struggling. Hey, there's that show "Desperate Housewives," right?

SANCHEZ: Yes.

ROSE: I guess we're not on Prozac, but we know that people want to discover their happiness, and music ours.

SANCHEZ: You decided to put this band together, though, after your fourth child, right, and there was an incident with lupus.

ROSE: Yes, I was diagnosed with lupus after my daughter was born and resulted in a kidney transplant, and for me, that was the impetus to remember what passionately fueled me in life, and to remind other people, too, that life is short, we have to do a lot of important, responsible work every day, but at the same time, we've got to be able to blow off steam, and enjoy ourselves and celebrate our essence and our passion.

SANCHEZ: You started small, it wasn't like you...

ROSE: Oh, I started off rehearsing in my attic, I mean, yes.

SANCHEZ: That's small.

ROSE: Yes, that's small. Started off in my attic, and I moved from there to whatever venue would have us and to a smaller stage, and now we perform at festivals and outdoor concerts. We performed at Giants Stadium, I don't know if you know that, here in Manhattan this summer, so.

SANCHEZ: Wow. What do you want people to know about your band? What is it that makes you unique, peculiar and special?

ROSE: Well, it's very hard to start a new genre, and I'm proud to say we're part of the mom rock movement, if not the godmothers of the mom rock movement. We have a Christmas CD actually, called "I Broke My Arm Christmas Shopping at the Mall," which you could stuff into every woman's stocking this Christmas, and you can find it at stores nationally.

And as far as I know, I'm the first 47-year-old mother rock band singing songs like "Eat Your Damn Spaghetti" that's in a record store, so I'm pretty proud of that.

SANCHEZ: It's tough, isn't it? How do you get it all done, being the rocker, the mom, the band, the mother, the wife.

ROSE: I'm telling you, I was at my house today, like, trying to put the false eyelashes, talking to the doctor about needing to get my son in for a physical, talking to the other school counselor, and all the phones are ringing at the same time. It's a real juggling act. But it's no different than every mom. I mean, every mom is like, you know, the grocery the laundry, the job, the kids, the hub, the whatever it is. We're all massively juggling all the time, and I'm just like them, only throw in a little rock 'n' roll.

SANCHEZ: Great hat, by the way.

ROSE: Oh, thanks.

SANCHEZ: Joy Rose, the band is called Housewives on Prozac.

(END VIDEOTAPE)

SANCHEZ: Maybe not with rock 'n' roll, but can you relate to her message?

WHITFIELD: No.

SANCHEZ: I mean, the wife, a lot of work to do...

WHITFIELD: No, not quite yet.

SANCHEZ: The hat, though, would look great on you by the way.

WHITFIELD: I'm not a mom yet, maybe then, or maybe after.

SANCHEZ: Well, real close. It's in the oven, folks.

WHITFIELD: Oh, boy. Well, she's a bold chick, bottom line, even in the wardrobe department, too.

(STOCK MARKET REPORT)

SANCHEZ: You ever watch "The Daily Show with Jon Stewart?"

WHITFIELD: No, but I'm familiar with it. Sorry.

SANCHEZ: It's a great show, by the way. It is, Jon, we swear. He was poking fun at me last night.

WHITFIELD: Oh, it's all about love.

SANCHEZ: Here's a little clip. We'll show you, when we come back.

(COMMERCIAL BREAK)

SANCHEZ: All right, here we go, campaign season is over, so now Jon Stewart and the gang over at "Daily Show" -- did I tell you that's one of my favorite shows on TV John. They apparently have a new target -- me.

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

JON STEWART, "THE DAILY SHOW" HOST: The world's most famous wreck is the Titanic, who's 1985 discovery by Dr. Robert Ballard prompted a book and TV special entitled "Return to the Titanic." Ballard recently appeared on CNN bringing a new message: Stop returning to the titanic. Ballard activism was no match for the probing questions of CNN's Rick Sanchez.

SANCHEZ: Was it the iceberg and the gash caused on the side of the ship that did bring it down?

Let me move to the life boats then. Why weren't there enough of them?

STEWART: That's Rick Sanchez asking the tough questions the Taft administration doesn't have (EXPLETIVE DELETED) to answer.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

SANCHEZ: I'm very passionate about that Titanic, ever since Leo died, you know? I watched it, I've cried.

WHITFIELD; Well, I think John affectionately was poking fun and having a good time with you. SANCHEZ: The guy is crazy about me, no question.

WHITFIELD: He likes you, he loves you.

(WEATHER REPORT)

WHITFIELD: All right, Well, I'm Fredricka Whitfield, in for Daryn Kagan.

SANCHEZ: And I'm Rick Sanchez.

We thank you so much for being with us. Wolf Blitzer coming up next.

(COMMERCIAL BREAK)

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Aired November 19, 2004 - 11:33   ET
THIS IS A RUSH TRANSCRIPT. THIS COPY MAY NOT BE IN ITS FINAL FORM AND MAY BE UPDATED.
FREDRICKA WHITFIELD, CNN ANCHOR: Coming up on the last half now, I'm Fredricka Whitfield.
RICK SANCHEZ, CNN ANCHOR: And I'm Rick Sanchez. And here's what's happening right now in the news. We begin again with more violence in Baghdad, where a car bomb targeted Iraqi police at a checkpoint, killed five, wounded 10 at last count. Also a firefight erupted not far from there, just outside a mosque after some people in the crowd opened fire on the Iraqi national guard. A cleric had just delivered a harsh sermon against the offensive in Falluja prior to it.

President Bush is set to OK a new limit on the national debt. Congress has approved an $800 billion increase to how much money our government can spend -- of our money, we should say. The vote raises the debt limit to a whopping $8.2 trillion.

House Ethics Committee leaders say the complaint that led to the October rebuke of Republican leader Tom DeLay is filled with exaggerations, thus violating a committee rule barring innuendo and speculation. DeLay spoke to reporters about these accusations.

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

REP. TOM DELAY (R), MAJORITY LEADER: By the Ethic's Committee action yesterday, they confirmed Chris Bell's utter contempt for Congress. And by continuing their announced strategy to forego the battle of ideas, and instead personally attack Republican leaders, the Democratic Party has confirmed its utter contempt for the boundaries of political discourse.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

SANCHEZ: The complaint was brought by Texas Democratic Congressman Chris Bell, who as you heard mentioned there, said DeLay had solicited a bribe. Bell lost a bid for re-election. DeLay is the object of an ongoing criminal probe in the state of Texas.

More troubles for pop star Michael Jackson. His former herbalist is suing him for $1.2 million. Alfreda Bauman (ph) says that he was on call 24/7, and the entertainer has not paid him for six months of exclusive services, he says. Jackson's attorney has not commented on the suit.

Keeping you informed, CNN, the most trusted name in news.

WHITFIELD: Let's move along now to the summit in Santiago, President Bush is making the nine-hour flight to Chile today to meet with leaders from 20 other Pacific Rim nations.

CNN's Lucia Newman is on hand for the APEC Conference, shorthand for Asia Pacific Economic Cooperation -- Lucia.

LUCIA NEWMAN, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Hello, Fredricka.

Well, security in this normally peaceful and very quiet South American capital is really unprecedented. There are police on horseback, special forces are deployed all over the city to protect the 21 leaders, including President Bush, who is expected to arrive here this evening.

Now, as has become very common place at these economic summits, there have been protests. Earlier this morning, a group of protesters clashed with police in downtown Santiago. They had not been authorized to protest against the summit. But at the same time, and in fact at this very moment, another, much larger march is lining up. It was peaceful, it was authorized by the authorities, but it was very, very much directed against the U.S. president. When I asked some of the people there why complain only about President Bush, there are 21 other leaders in all, they said that it's because President George Bush represents for them everything that's wrong with the world.

(BEGIN VIDEOTAPE)

NEWMAN (voice-over): Not so long ago, the visit of a U.S. president to Chile inspired more flattering coverage, but then, times have changed.

"We reject the warlike attitude of the United States against world peace," says this man.

But it's not just criticism of the Iraq war and the growth of globalization. Staunch supporters of free trade complained that since 9/11, the White House has ignored Latin America. That's why at the APEC Summit, the United States traditional backyard partners are looking past their northern neighbors and focusing their gaze to the east, toward Asia, especially China, to do business.

ALEJANDRO POXLEY, FMR. CHILEAN FINANCE MINISTER: They contracted for 20 years in which you have a partner that will buy everything for the next generation, and that, as I say, gives a tremendous stability to the economy in Latin America.

NEWMAN: The interest is mutual. After visiting Latin American giants Brazil and Argentina, China's president arrived in Santiago, not just to attend APEC, but to discuss a free trade agreement with Chile, the world's No. 1 copper producer.

Latin American commodities, from minerals to meat, are being gobbled up by China, which is quickly displacing the United States as the region's No. 1 trading partner.

Alejandro Poxley says the U.S. needs to rapidly take a more multilateral approach toward Latin America, and not just on security. POXLEY: You either cooperate and build bridges with everybody, or you will be a losing partner in globalization.

(END VIDEOTAPE)

NEWMAN: Now, this region's Asian lovefest has not gone unnoticed by Washington, according to U.S. sources. Now, just what the United States plans to do about it may begin to be answered this weekend here in Santiago -- Fredricka.

WHITFIELD: All right, Lucia Newman, thanks so much for that live report.

Something else that's taking place in Chile, perhaps not related to APEC, something you could do today that you couldn't do before -- get a divorce. The country's new divorce law took effect today. Long lines reported at courthouses all over. Before today, couples had to get an annulment, often contriving situations to meet the criteria. The heavily Roman Catholic country was among the last in the world without a divorce law. You can't -- you still, however, cannot, get one in Malta or the Philippines.

SANCHEZ: Well, the FDA is coming under fire. Questions are being raised about the approval of the drug Vioxx.

WHITFIELD: And a dress-up day at an east Texas school is banned. We'll tell you why are the kids are now told to wear camouflage.

We're back right after this.

(COMMERCIAL BREAK)

WHITFIELD: Officials say the fallout over Vioxx has exposed potential shortcomings in how new medicines come to market.

CNN medical correspondent Elizabeth Cohen takes a closer look now.

(BEGIN VIDEOTAPE)

ELIZABETH COHEN, CNN MEDICAL CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): The Vioxx hearings have left many people wondering how could a drug that causes heart attacks get approved by the Food and Drug Administration? Doesn't the United States have the best, most rigorous drug approval process in the world?

The answer to that question has to do with a common misperception. Many people think it's the FDA that conducts studies on drugs before they go on the market. In fact, the pharmaceutical companies do the studies on their own drugs. The FDA just reviews their data. And more and more observers, such as Dr. Jerry Avorn, author of the book "Powerful Medicines," thinks this system doesn't make much sense.

DR. JERRY AVORN, HARVARD MEDICAL SCHOOL: I think we need to have a more vigilant and aggressive FDA. COHEN: One problem, he says, the salaries of the FDA reviewers are paid in part by the drug companies. The pharmaceutical industry spends hundreds of millions of dollars on so-called user fees to the FDA and some say that makes for too cozy of a relationship.

AVORN: And it really needs to be a tough agency that is going to really ask some very demanding questions, because we're talking about chemicals that people put into their body that can alter their health for good or for ill.

ALAN GOLDHAMMER, PHARMACEUTICAL RESEARCH AND MANUFACTURERS ASSOCIATION OF AMERICA: We've seen these allegations of the coziness between the industry and the Food and Drug Administration. We think that they really are not true.

COHEN: In fact, the pharmaceutical industry says...

GOLDHAMMER: The process for approving new drugs by the Food and Drug Administration is working quite well.

COHEN: The industry points out that it spends years testing each drug on animals and then on humans, and the FDA then takes about a year to review those studies and often asks for even more data. But others say that pulling Vioxx and other drugs off the market because of safety worries is proof that somehow, somewhere the system is falling short.

Elizabeth Cohen, CNN, Atlanta.

(END VIDEOTAPE)

WHITFIELD: An update now on the health of the President Bush's next pick for secretary of state. Condoleezza Rice apparently has had successful surgery of a remove of some noncancerous fibroids in her uterus, and she is at Georgetown University Hospital, where she will stay for the night to continue to recover, but looks live everything worked out well for her, the 50-year-old, who is the president's next pick for the U.S. secretary of state. Her successful surgery is now complete -- Rick.

SANCHEZ: Well, they have got issues, they have got kids, they have got mortgages. They have serious issues, in fact. Up next, housewives on Prozac. They also have great music, and it proves that you can fit your guitars and your amps perfectly into a minivan if you're a working mom.

WHITFIELD: And it's nothing short of an honor in this business. Find out what Jon Stewart has to say about, well, you.

SANCHEZ: Me?

WHITFIELD: Yes.

SANCHEZ: Oh, no.

(COMMERCIAL BREAK) WHITFIELD: A Texas school has scrapped a homecoming week tradition because of a parent's concern about gender identity. One day a year at schools in the town of Spurger, Texas, boys would dress as girls and girls as boys, but a parent complained, suggesting such an event could encourage children to become cross-dressers, or even homosexuals.

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: The girls dress up as guys and the guys dress up in girls clothes, but it ain't nothing bad. I mean, it's not cross-dressing or anything.

DELANA DAVIES, COMPLAINING PARENT: It might be fun to dress up like a girl, and you know, and kids think it's cute and things like that, and then you start playing around with it, and like drugs, you do a little bit here and there, and eventually it gets you.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

WHITFIELD: So, here's the compromise. Instead of boys dressed in skirts, many students came to school dressed in camouflage.

SANCHEZ: Now, we want you to meet someone who also wears interesting garbs, a rocker mom who is no desperate housewife. She's part of an all-female band called Housewives on Prozac, six women singing about mom's life through songs like "The Housewives Lament," and, you're going to love this one, "Shut Up and Eat Your Damn Spaghetti." Their new CD is titled, "I Broke My Arm Christmas Shopping at the Mall and Others." Now, I had a chance to speak with her. Her name is Joy Rose. I think you're going to enjoy her.

(BEGIN VIDEOTAPE)

SANCHEZ: Joy Rose is joining us, and the band is called Housewives on Prozac. I guess the first thing I've got to ask you, is how did you come up with the name?

JOY ROSE, SINGER, "HOUSEWIVES ON PROZAC": Hey, it's a metaphor for what women go through, I think, as moms. It's -- motherhood could be a challenging job and we all want to be happy. So it's about the women that are struggling. Hey, there's that show "Desperate Housewives," right?

SANCHEZ: Yes.

ROSE: I guess we're not on Prozac, but we know that people want to discover their happiness, and music ours.

SANCHEZ: You decided to put this band together, though, after your fourth child, right, and there was an incident with lupus.

ROSE: Yes, I was diagnosed with lupus after my daughter was born and resulted in a kidney transplant, and for me, that was the impetus to remember what passionately fueled me in life, and to remind other people, too, that life is short, we have to do a lot of important, responsible work every day, but at the same time, we've got to be able to blow off steam, and enjoy ourselves and celebrate our essence and our passion.

SANCHEZ: You started small, it wasn't like you...

ROSE: Oh, I started off rehearsing in my attic, I mean, yes.

SANCHEZ: That's small.

ROSE: Yes, that's small. Started off in my attic, and I moved from there to whatever venue would have us and to a smaller stage, and now we perform at festivals and outdoor concerts. We performed at Giants Stadium, I don't know if you know that, here in Manhattan this summer, so.

SANCHEZ: Wow. What do you want people to know about your band? What is it that makes you unique, peculiar and special?

ROSE: Well, it's very hard to start a new genre, and I'm proud to say we're part of the mom rock movement, if not the godmothers of the mom rock movement. We have a Christmas CD actually, called "I Broke My Arm Christmas Shopping at the Mall," which you could stuff into every woman's stocking this Christmas, and you can find it at stores nationally.

And as far as I know, I'm the first 47-year-old mother rock band singing songs like "Eat Your Damn Spaghetti" that's in a record store, so I'm pretty proud of that.

SANCHEZ: It's tough, isn't it? How do you get it all done, being the rocker, the mom, the band, the mother, the wife.

ROSE: I'm telling you, I was at my house today, like, trying to put the false eyelashes, talking to the doctor about needing to get my son in for a physical, talking to the other school counselor, and all the phones are ringing at the same time. It's a real juggling act. But it's no different than every mom. I mean, every mom is like, you know, the grocery the laundry, the job, the kids, the hub, the whatever it is. We're all massively juggling all the time, and I'm just like them, only throw in a little rock 'n' roll.

SANCHEZ: Great hat, by the way.

ROSE: Oh, thanks.

SANCHEZ: Joy Rose, the band is called Housewives on Prozac.

(END VIDEOTAPE)

SANCHEZ: Maybe not with rock 'n' roll, but can you relate to her message?

WHITFIELD: No.

SANCHEZ: I mean, the wife, a lot of work to do...

WHITFIELD: No, not quite yet.

SANCHEZ: The hat, though, would look great on you by the way.

WHITFIELD: I'm not a mom yet, maybe then, or maybe after.

SANCHEZ: Well, real close. It's in the oven, folks.

WHITFIELD: Oh, boy. Well, she's a bold chick, bottom line, even in the wardrobe department, too.

(STOCK MARKET REPORT)

SANCHEZ: You ever watch "The Daily Show with Jon Stewart?"

WHITFIELD: No, but I'm familiar with it. Sorry.

SANCHEZ: It's a great show, by the way. It is, Jon, we swear. He was poking fun at me last night.

WHITFIELD: Oh, it's all about love.

SANCHEZ: Here's a little clip. We'll show you, when we come back.

(COMMERCIAL BREAK)

SANCHEZ: All right, here we go, campaign season is over, so now Jon Stewart and the gang over at "Daily Show" -- did I tell you that's one of my favorite shows on TV John. They apparently have a new target -- me.

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

JON STEWART, "THE DAILY SHOW" HOST: The world's most famous wreck is the Titanic, who's 1985 discovery by Dr. Robert Ballard prompted a book and TV special entitled "Return to the Titanic." Ballard recently appeared on CNN bringing a new message: Stop returning to the titanic. Ballard activism was no match for the probing questions of CNN's Rick Sanchez.

SANCHEZ: Was it the iceberg and the gash caused on the side of the ship that did bring it down?

Let me move to the life boats then. Why weren't there enough of them?

STEWART: That's Rick Sanchez asking the tough questions the Taft administration doesn't have (EXPLETIVE DELETED) to answer.

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SANCHEZ: I'm very passionate about that Titanic, ever since Leo died, you know? I watched it, I've cried.

WHITFIELD; Well, I think John affectionately was poking fun and having a good time with you. SANCHEZ: The guy is crazy about me, no question.

WHITFIELD: He likes you, he loves you.

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WHITFIELD: All right, Well, I'm Fredricka Whitfield, in for Daryn Kagan.

SANCHEZ: And I'm Rick Sanchez.

We thank you so much for being with us. Wolf Blitzer coming up next.

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