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Bush Thanks Canadians for 9/11 Help; Phishing Expedition

Aired December 01, 2004 - 10:59   ET

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RICK SANCHEZ, CNN ANCHOR: President Bush is about to speak in Halifax, Nova Scotia, any moment now in fact. There he is. We take you live there so you can listen in.
GEORGE W. BUSH, PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES: Thank you all. Thanks very much.

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Thank you.

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Please be seated.

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Thank you all very much. Thanks for warm welcome, Mr. Prime Minister.

BUSH: I thank you and Mrs. Martin for a fantastic dinner last night in Ottawa. We really loved it.

My only regret today is that Laura's not with me. She went home to thank those who have been decorating the White House for the great Christmas season that's coming up. I married well.

(LAUGHTER)

I appreciate the premiers who are here.

Premier Hamm, thank you for your hospitality.

Premier Lord, Premier Binns and Premier Williams, I appreciate you all joining us.

I want to specifically mention the premiers because as an ex- governor, I feel a special kinship...

(LAUGHTER)

... to those who run the provinces here in Canada.

But thank you for your service.

Ambassador Cellucci, mayors, local officials, distinguished guests, ladies and gentlemen, I am honored to be with you today to reaffirm America's enduring ties to your country.

(APPLAUSE)

I am really glad to be in Canada and I'm really glad to be among friends. I appreciate the warm hospitality we've received.

In the past year, I've come to know your new prime minister. We've met in Mexico, in the United States, in Chile and now in Canada.

Paul Martin is the leader who is asserting Canada's good influence in the world.

And as I prepare for a second term in office, I look forward to a successful working partnership between our two countries.

BUSH: Paul and I share a great vision for the future: two prosperous, independent nations joined together by the return of NHL hockey.

(APPLAUSE)

I told Paul that I really have only one regret about this visit to Canada. There's a prominent citizen who endorsed me in the 2000 election and I wanted a chance to finally thank him for that endorsement. I was hoping to meet Jean Poutine.

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I'm proud to stand in this historic place, which has welcomed home so many Canadians who defended liberty overseas and where so many new Canadians began their North American dream.

I'm grateful for the hospitality shown by the people of this fine city who have been so very kind to Americans before.

Three years ago, Halifax and other towns and villages from Newfoundland to Manitoba to the Northwest Territories to British Columbia welcomed, as the prime minister mentioned, more than 33,000 passengers on diverted flights. For days after September the 11th, Canadians came to the aid of men and women and children who were worried and confused and had nowhere to sleep.

You opened your homes and your churches to strangers. You brought food. You set up clinics. You arranged for calls to their loved ones. And you asked for nothing in return.

One American declared, "My heart is overwhelmed at the outpouring of Canadian compassion. How does a person say thank you to a nation?"

Well, that's something a president can do.

So let me say directly to the Canadian people and to all of you here today who welcomed Americans, thank you for your kindness to America in an hour of need.

(APPLAUSE) BUSH: That emergency revealed the good and generous heart of this country and showed the true feelings of Canadians and Americans toward each other. The affection that appeared in an instant will always be there and it runs deep.

Beyond the words of politicians and the natural disagreements that nations will have, our two peoples are one family and always will be.

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We're united in part by the daily contact of commerce, and both our nations are better off for it.

In the 10 years since the North American Free Trade Agreement was enacted, trade between the United States and Canada has nearly doubled. Twenty-three percent of America's exports go directly north. And more than 80 percent of Canadians' exports go to my country.

So much trade there are bound to be some disagreements. I proudly ate some Alberta beef last night and I'm still standing.

(LAUGHTER)

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With determined efforts and relying on sound science and mutual good will, we can resolve issues.

Take, for example, those PEI potatoes.

Right, Mr. Premier?

(LAUGHTER)

Canada represents America's most vital trade relationship in the whole world. And we will do all that is necessary to keep that relationship strong.

Yet our ties go deeper than trade. Our community of values reaches back centuries.

BUSH: Canada and the U.S. may have disagreed on the wisdom of separating from the crown, but we've always agreed on the great principles of liberty derived from our common heritage.

We believe in the dignity of every human life. And we believe in the right of every person to live in freedom. We believe in free markets, humanized by compassion and fairness. We believe a diverse society can also be united by principles of justice and equality.

The values we hold have made us good neighbors for centuries. And they will keep us as strong allies and good friends for the centuries to come.

(APPLAUSE) These shared convictions have also led our great democracies to accept a mission in the wider world. We know it is not possible to live in quiet isolation of our peaceful continent, hoping the problems and challenges of other nations will pass us by. We know there can be no security, no lasting peace in a world where proliferation and terrorism and genocide and extreme poverty go unopposed.

We know that our own interests are served by an international system that advances human rights and open societies and free trade and the rule of law and the hope that comes from self-government.

Both Canada and the United States have accepted important global duties and we will meet those responsibilities for our own benefit and for the good of mankind.

Canada's leadership is helping to build a better world. Over the past decade, Canadian troops have helped bring stability to Bosnia and Kosovo.

BUSH: Canada's willingness to send peacekeepers to Haiti saved thousands of lives and helped save Haiti's constitutional government.

Canadian troops are serving bravely in Afghanistan at this hour. Other Canadians stand on guard for peace in the Middle East, in Cyprus, Sudan and the Congo.

Just two weeks ago, NATO countries showed their esteem for your military by electing General Ray Henault as chairman of NATO's Military Committee.

This admiration for your armed forces goes way back, and for good reason. It was said during World War I "The Canadians never budge." America respects the skill and honor and the sacrifice of Canada's armed forces.

Our nations play independent roles in the world, yet our purposes are complementary.

We have important work ahead. A new term in office is an important opportunity to reach out to our friends. We hope to foster a wide international consensus among three great goals.

The first great commitment is to defend our security and spread freedom by building effective multinational and multilateral institutions and supporting effective multilateral action.

The tasks of the 21st century -- from fighting proliferation, to fighting the scourge of HIV/AIDS, to fighting poverty and hungry -- cannot be accomplished by a single nation alone. The United States and Canada participate together in more multilateral institutions than perhaps any two nations on Earth.

From NATO in Europe to the OAS in the Western Hemisphere to APEC in the Pacific, Canada and the United States are working with a coalition of nations, through the Proliferation Security Initiative, to stop and seize shipments of weapons of mass destruction, materials and delivery systems on land and at sea and in the air.

America always prefers to act with allies at our side. And we're grateful that Canada for working closely with us to confront the challenges of Iran and North Korea.

Multilateral organizations can do great good in the world.

BUSH: Yet the success of multilateralism is measured not merely by following a process, but by achieving results. The objective of the U.N. and other institutions must be collective security, not endless debate. For the sake of peace, when those bodies promise serious consequences, serious consequences must follow.

America and Canada helped create the United Nations and because we remain committed to that institution, we want it to be more than a League of Nations.

My country is determined to work as far as possible within the framework of international organizations and we're hoping that other nations will work with us to make those institutions more relevant and more effective in meeting the unique threats of our time.

Our second commitment is to fight global terrorism with every action and resource the task requires. Canada has taken a series of critical steps to guard against the danger of terrorism. You created the Department of Public Safety and Emergency Preparedness. You've toughened your anti-terror laws. You're upgrading your intelligence. And I want to thank the government for all those constructive and important decisions.

Our two countries are working together every day to keep our people safe. That is the most solemn duty that I have and the most solemn duty the prime minister has.

From the Smart Border Accord to the Container Security Initiative to the joint command of NORAD, we are working together.

I hope we'll also move forward on ballistic missile defense cooperation to protect the next generation of Canadians and Americans from the threats we know will arise.

The energetic defense of our nations is an important duty, yet defense alone is not a sufficient strategy.

BUSH: On September the 11th, the people of North America learned that two vast oceans and friendly neighbors cannot fully shield us from the dangers of the 21st century.

There is only one way to deal with enemies who plot in secret and set out to murder the innocent and the unsuspecting: We must take the fight to them. We must be relentless, and we must be steadfast in our duty to protect our people.

Both of the countries have learned this lesson.

In the early days of World War II, when the United States was still wrestling with isolationism, Canadian forces were already engaging the enemies of freedom across the atlantic.

At the time, some Canadians argued that Canada had not been attacked and had no interest in fighting a distant war.

Your prime minister, Mackenzie King, gave this answer: "We cannot defend our country and save our homes and families by waiting for the enemy to attack us. To remain on the defensive is the surest way to bring the war to Canada."

Of course, we should protect our coasts and strengthen our ports and cities against attack.

But the prime minister went on to say, "We must also go out and meet the enemy before he reaches our shores. We must defeat him before he attacks us, before our cities are laid to waste."

Mackenzie King was correct then, and we must always remember the wisdom of his words today.

In the new era, the threat is different but our duties are the same. Our enemies have declared their intentions, and so have we.

Peaceful nations must keep the peace by going after the terrorists and disrupting their plans and cutting off their funding.

We must hold the sponsors of terror equally responsible for terrorist acts. We must prevent outlaw regimes from gaining weapons of mass destruction and providing them to terrorists.

We must stay at these efforts with patience and resolve until we prevail.

BUSH: Our third great commitment is to enhance our own security by promoting freedom and hope and democracy in the broader Middle East.

The United States and Canada and all three nations need to look ahead. If 20 years from now, the Middle East is dominated by dictators and mullahs who build weapons of mass destruction and harbor terrorists, our children and our grandchildren will live in a nightmare world of danger. That must not happen.

By taking the side of reformers and democrats in the Middle East, we will gain allies in the war on terror and isolate the ideology of murder and help to defeat the despair and hopelessness that feeds terror. The world will become a much safer place as democracy advances.

After decades of tyranny and neglect in the broader Middle East, progress toward freedom will not come easily. I know that. Yet it is cultural condescension to claim that some peoples or some cultures or some religions are destined to despotism and unsuited for self- government.

Today in the Middle East, the doubters and pessimists are being proven wrong. We're seeing movement toward elections and greater rights for women and open discussion of peaceful reform.

I believe that people across the Middle East are weary of poverty and oppression and plead in silence for their liberty. I believe this is a historic moment in the Middle East, and we must seize this moment by standing with everyone who stands for liberty.

We are standing with the people of Afghanistan, a nation that has gone from a safe haven for terrorists to a steadfast ally in the war on terror in three and a half short years.

Canada deployed more than 7,000 troops and much of your navy in support of Operation Enduring Freedom. This year, your country has led the International Security Assistance Force in Kabul.

BUSH: The coalition we share is doing honorable work. Yet democracy is taking hold in that country because the Afghan people, like people everywhere, want to live in freedom. They registered by the millions to vote in October. They stood in long lines on election day.

An Afghan widow brought all four of her daughters to vote alongside her. She said, "When you see women here lined up to vote, this is something profound. I never dreamed this day would come."

But that woman's dream finally arrived, as it will one day across the Middle East.

(APPLAUSE)

These are unprecedented, historic events that many said would never come. And Canadians can be proud of the part you have played in the advance of human liberty.

You must also stand with the brave people of Iraq who are preparing for elections on January the 30th. Sometimes even the closest of friends disagree and two years ago we disagreed about the best course of action in Iraq. Yet as your prime minister made clear in Washington earlier this year, there is no disagreement at all with what has to be done in going forward.

We must help the Iraqi people secure their country and build a free and democratic society. The Canadian government has pledged more than $200 million in humanitarian aid and reconstruction assistance and agreed to relieve more than $450 million in Iraqi debt.

That help is greatly appreciated. There's more work to be done together.

Both Canada and the United States and all three nations have a vital interest in the success of a free Iraq. The terrorists have made Iraq the central front in the war on terror because they know what is at stake.

BUSH: When a free and democratic society is established in Iraq, in the heart of the Middle East, it will be a decisive blow to their aspirations to dominate the region and its people. A free Iraq will be a standing rebuke to radicalism and a model to reformers from Damascus to Tehran.

In Fallujah and elsewhere, our coalition and Iraqi forces are on the offensive and we are delivering a message: freedom, not oppression, is the future of Iraq.

Freedom is a precious right for every individual, regardless of the color of their skin or the religion they may hold.

A long night of terror and tyranny in that region is ending and a new day of freedom and hope and self-government is on the way.

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And we will stand with the Palestinian and Israeli peoples and help end the destructive conflict between them.

Prime Minister Martin has expressed the desire of his government to take a broader role in the quest for peace and democracy, and America welcomes your involvement. It's a time of change and a time of hope in that region.

We seek justice and dignity and a viable, independent and democratic state for the Palestinian people.

We seek security and peace for the state of Israel, a state that Canada, like America, first recognized in 1948.

These are worthy goals in themselves. And by reaching them, we will also remove an excuse for hatred and violence in the broader Middle East.

Achieving peace in the Holy Land is not just a matter of pressuring one side or the other on the shape of a border or the site of a settlement. This approach has been tried before without success.

As we negotiate the details of peace, we must look to the heart of the matter, which is the need for a Palestinian democracy.

BUSH: The Palestinian people deserve a peaceful government that truly serves their interests and the Israeli people need a true partner in peace.

Our destination is clear: two states, Israel and Palestine, living side by side in peace and security. And that destination can be reached by only one path: the path of democracy and reform and the rule of law.

If all parties will apply effort, if all nations who are concerned about this issue will apply good will, this conflict can end and peace can be achieved. And the time for that effort and the time for that good will is now.

The United States and Canada face common threats in our world and we share common goals that can transform our world. We're bound by history and geography and trade and by our deepest convictions.

With so much in common and so much at stake, we cannot be divided.

I realize, and many Americans realize, that it's not always easy to sleep next to the elephant.

(LAUGHTER)

Sometimes our laws and our actions affect Canada every bit as much as they affect us. And we need to remember that.

And when frustrations are vented, we must not take it personally. As a member of Canada's Parliament said in the 1960s, "The United States is our friend whether we like it or not."

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When all is said and done, we are friends and we like it.

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Three years ago, when the American planes were diverted away from home, passengers knew they were safe and welcome the moment they saw the maple leaf flag. One of them later said, of the Canadians he met, "They taught me the meaning of the word 'friend.'"

BUSH: For generations, the nation of Canada has defined the word "friend," and my country is grateful.

God has blessed America in many ways. God has blessed us because we have neighbors like you.

And today I ask that God continues to bless the people of Canada.

Thank you.

(APPLAUSE)

DARYN KAGAN, CNN ANCHOR: President Bush, speaking in Halifax, Nova Scotia, trying to strike a theme of friendship. The main point of the speech being that the people of Nova Scotia coming to the aid of travelers, a lot of American travelers who were stranded there on that very island right after 9/11.

SANCHEZ: And he was also very firm, as far as his foreign policy. He was essentially saying, look, this is what I have done, this is what we have done, this is what my administration have done, and we are not going to apologize for it.

Also took a shot at the idea of multilateralism in its present form and the United Nations. At one point, he said, "We must look for result, not endless debate." Said the United Nations should be just that, a United Nations, not a league of nations.

Interesting. I was watching, and for like 10 to 12 minutes, when he was speaking about Iraq and U.S. policy, there was no applause from this very polite audience. But once he started speaking about Afghanistan and the Palestinian cause, then there was a reaction.

KAGAN: And they do a little satellite tour. And that's why we were seeing a different correspondent.

Our John King, our senior White House correspondent, is there, and talking more about what he heard the president was saying.

Good morning, John.

JOHN KING, CNN SR. WHITE HOUSE CORRESPONDENT: Good morning to you, Daryn.

An interesting speech from the president. On the one hand, no apologies about his decision to go to war in Iraq. No apologies, and a continued message that he believes organizations like the United Nations must be more robust, must be more willing to respond to threats in the world. But a very conciliatory tone from the president. As he put it, "A new term presents new opportunities."

There is proof around the world, proof here in Canada, with the demonstrations on the streets, the bitterness over the Iraq war lingers quite vehemently in many of these countries. What the president is trying to say is, let's try to move on.

And in the case of Canada, what he is trying to say is, perhaps this should be a model. Yes, we are friends. Sometimes we forcefully disagree. But let's remember, most of all, we are friends, and friends can put disagreements behind them.

So the president trying to defend his positions and defend his foreign policy today. But also suggests he will try to reach out in his second term, try to put all this behind him, try to revive some of these relationships that have been quite strained, not just by Iraq in the case of Canada, by some nasty trade disputes as well. And the president even trying a bit of humor in making that case, saying one thing he shares with the Canadian prime minister is the hope that we can get the National Hockey League back.

So a bit of humor in the president's new diplomacy -- Daryn.

KAGAN: Yes, a lot of hockey players available this season to sit around and watch presidential speeches. Speaking of humor, John, put in perspective and in context an -- a kind of inside Canadian joke the president made off the top in making reference to -- I think it was John Peuteen (ph).

KING: Jean Peuteen is the mythical Canadian prime minister. Back in the 2000 campaign, the president was asked by some Canadian humorists, they might call themselves journalists, that he was told, do you know the Canadian Prime Minister John Peuteen thinks you're them an to lead the United States. And Mr. Bush said, oh, is that right? So the president at the time, it was unclear whether he actually though that was the Canadian prime minister, or whether he was just taking the bait of that joke, but it became quite a bit of a laughing matter, especially in Canada, at a time in the presidential campaign when many were wondering whether this governor of Texas at the time, George W. Bush, was truly up to the task of leading the United States on the world stage.

SANCHEZ: I think...

KING: So humor from the president.

SANCHEZ: Last time we checked, I think Peuteen is something you eat, I think it's something like French fries with gravy or something like that.

John, were you struck when the president took a terse tone toward multilateralism and the United Nations, when he said they need to be a United Nations, not a League of Nations? And he used the term specifically "endless debate."

KING: Well, remember, that is a hangover of the Iraq debate. Mr. Bush says he went to the United Nations on several occasions and that the Security Council passed resolutions saying that Saddam Hussein should face serious consequences. The president would make the case, and will make the case, even as he tries to have a more conciliatory tone, that if the United Nations is going to say, do this or face serious consequences, and the person on the other end, the country on the other end, does not do that, then those organizations must impose the serious consequences. And the president saying that, not just to defend his position on Iraq, but to look ahead to the coming debates Iran, over North Korea, over any other threats that could come up, the debates over Middle East peace initiatives.

The president trying to say, he will always, first, try to work with others, but if those organizations say something, they better mean it, or else he will be willing, once again, to make the world mad, if you will, and step outside and act on his own.

KAGAN: John King, live from Nova Scotia. John, thank you for that.

SANCHEZ: Beautiful background behind John, by the way.

KAGAN: Yes, nice lighthouse.

SANCHEZ: Pretty to look at, well framed, as they say.

KAGAN: And we are going to take a break. A lot more news ahead, after this.

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KAGAN: Let's see what's happening now in the news. President Bush heads back to Washington this hour after wrapping up a two-day visit to Canada. This morning, traveled to Halifax to thank families who helped stranded airlines passengers after the 9/11 attacks. We saw the president speak live from Nova Scotia.

Tom Ridge has announced his resignation. Now it turns to speculation on his replacement as homeland security secretary. Among those mentioned as possible successors, White House homeland security adviser Frances Townsend and homeland security undersecretary Asa Hutchison.

Ukraine's parliament has issued a vote of no-confidence in that country's bitterly disputed presidential election. That would sack the newly named government of Viktor Yushchenko. He was declared the winner, despite exit polls showing the opposition candidate the clear winner. The country's supreme court has not yet weighed in on opposition charges that that vote was rigged.

And Private Lynndie England is in Ft. Bragg, in a courtroom there today, for motions ahead of her court-martial. England became a focal point of the Iraqi prison abuse scandal, because many of the photos showed her smiling and pointing at naked detainees.

Keeping you informed, CNN is the most trusted name in news.

SANCHEZ: Well, there's a new word coming into play in the world of technology. It's called phishing. That's phishing with a 'p,' and it's not something you really want to get hooked on.

Our technology expert Dan Sieberg explains to you what this is.

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SUSANNA TROTTER, VICTIM OF IDENTITY THEFT: I don't have high speed.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Welcome. You've got mail.

DANIEL SIEBERG, CNN CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): Susanna Trotter of Richmond, Virginia bought her first computer in 1999. Within three months, her credit card number was stolen.

TROTTER: I got an e-mail from AOL saying that they needed to check my billing.

SIEBERG: Though the message looked real, it was not from AOL, a corporate sister of CNN, by the way. It was from an online con artiest and when Susanna clicked on a link inside the e-mail, it directed her to what appeared to be a customer service page, complete with legitimate links, logos and all the right language. It even had drop down menus to select her choice of credit card. She was being duped by a very clever identity thief.

TROTTER: Well, the first thing I noticed was on my credit card that there was a charge that I didn't recognize.

SIEBERG: The thief had used the stolen credit card number to purchase some rather lewd content online.

TROTTER: And I called and it was a company out in California. And after much cajoling, I got the girl to tell me that it was an adult entertainment site. And I knew I hadn't signed up for that. SIEBERG (on camera): The company, of course, was tricked, too. It had nothing to do with Trotter's stolen credit card information. The scheme is called phishing, spelled with a PH, not an F. And scammers cast wide nets in the form of mass e-mails, hoping to reel in unsuspecting victims who think the messages are legitimate.

Sometimes, however, their tactics backfire and they hook the wrong guy.

(voice-over): An FBI agent in the Norfolk field office received the same phony AOL message as Susanna. His name is Joe Vuhasz, but we can't show you his face for investigative reasons.

JOE VUHASZ, FBI AGENT: I think there is some sort of irony in the fact that they were sending the e-mail messages out in such abundance that it just happened that I had to get one. And one of the things that I specialize in is cyber crime. So I think there is some sort of poetic justice.

SIEBERG: The phishers had hooked an FBI agent and he had the means to track them down. Helen Carr and George Patterson are now serving time in federal prison. Their lure of choice was AOL, but other common phishing e-mails purport to be from eBay, PayPal, Citibank and U.S. Bank, among others.

EILEEN HARRINGTON, FTC CONSUMER PROTECTION BUREAU: Phishers send out huge volume of e-mail to people who may or may not have accounts with the companies that they pretend to be on the theory that these companies do so much business that some of the people who receive these e-mails are bound to have accounts or have done business with them and will bite.

SIEBERG: According to one study, 57 million U.S. adults believe they've received a phishing attack e-mail. It's estimated that 11 million of those people actually clicked on the e-mail's links to the fake Web sites. And the trend is on the rise. According to the Anti- Phishing Working Group, with a 52 percent average monthly growth rate through June 2004.

The Federal Trade Commission operates the largest consumer complaint databases in North America. Eileen Harrington says phishing is becoming a huge problem, but it's a crime that's completely preventable.

HARRINGTON: Do not ever provide account information, a PIN, a social security number, any kind of personally identifiable information like that in response to an e-mail, even if you think it's from a legitimate and reputable company, because that's not the way that these companies do business.

SIEBERG: Susanna was able to reverse the charges on her credit card, but was rattled by the whole experience.

TROTTER: I had felt like I was safe. I didn't know enough to realize I wasn't safe. And sure, ever since that happened, I'm very, very careful. SIEBERG: On the Internet, seeing is not believing. The logos, language and look of anything online are very easy to copy. If you think your billing records need updating, don't take the e-mail's word for it. Contact the company independently and directly yourself.

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SIEBERG: The best way to do that is by phone. And if you type in the company's Web site from scratch, that's always the best way to go. Don't go there from a link within an e-mail message. You can look up the number of the company on the site and call. Even then, remember that real companies will not ask you to update your billing information in this way.

Now some bad news, recent statistics do show that phishing e-mail scams are on the rise as we enter the holiday season and more people are buying gifts online. So it's going to take a sharp eye and some vigilance not to get hooked -- Rick.

SANCHEZ: So these are like fake Web sites. Is it -- can anybody do it? Is it easy? Is it hard to do that?

SIEBERG: Well, for the average person creating a Web site might be a bit tricky. That's the unfortunate side of all this, is it's actually fairly easy for these scammers to create a legitimate-looking Web site. Really they're cutting and pasting what look like real logos to a fake looking Web site.

The hard part is in tracking them down. The authorities have a tough time finding some of these scammers because they do cover their tracks so well. Basically, we need more FBI agents like Joe, who was in our piece there, to track these guys down.

SANCHEZ: All right. Thanks so much, Dan, appreciate it. And by the way, be sure to tune in tomorrow, this same time, we're going to take a closer look at the workplace privacy issue. Do you know who's watching you when you're in the office, Daryn, for example?

KAGAN: Yes, you're watching me.

SANCHEZ: That's 11:00 a.m. Eastern, right here, on CNN LIVE TODAY. And one other thing, you can always find a wealth of tech news and features at cnn.com. What have you got to do to get there? Well, it's easy, just click on "technology" and you'll be all set.

KAGAN: Just a few minutes ago we were watching President Bush live from Nova Scotia. He's headed back to Washington. We're also getting word now that King Abdullah of Jordan will be coming to the White House first thing next week on Monday. The king of Jordan coming to meet with President Bush. This word just being put out. It's possible that with the death of Yasser Arafat, the Palestinian leader, this could be the start, the talks, of what could be the beginning of an effort to bring greater peace to the Middle East. The king of Jordan and his father trying to be involved in that in the past. And you heard President Bush mention peace in the Middle East in his speech. So king of Jordan, King Abdullah, coming to the White House on Monday.

SANCHEZ: Not to mention Abdullah has had some very strong reaction to the situation in Iraq, not always agreeing with U.S. policy. So I imagine that might probably come up, too. Maybe a little arm-twisting.

Millions infected, thousands dead every year, it's the AIDS crisis. Far from over.

KAGAN: Up next, commemorating World AIDS Day. It is part of our "Daily Dose" of health news.

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SANCHEZ: On this 17th World Aids Day, it's a day for demonstrators to hit the streets in many places. Researchers in India say they are going to begin human trials on a new AIDS vaccine. Thirty adult volunteers are going to take part. This is going to begin in January, we understand. The vaccine is going to target subtype C of the virus, the dominant strain in India, for example. More than 5 million Indians are living with HIV. The country is second only to parts of South Africa, as far as the number of AIDS cases are concerned.

KAGAN: Well, on this World AIDS Day, the numbers can be overwhelming. At least 38 million people worldwide are infected with HIV/AIDS according the worldaidsday.org. Eight thousand people die of AIDS-related causes every day. That translates to five deaths every minute. And most of those are in Africa. I welcome Jamie Drummond, he is the executive director of DATA, which stands for Debt AIDS Trade Africa. The group was co-founded in 2002 by the rock star Bono.

Jamie, good to see you.

JAMIE DRUMMOND, EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR, DATA: Good morning, Daryn.

KAGAN: And of course we go back about two years. I went with you and Bono and we traveled Africa and saw AIDS and what's happening there firsthand as we traveled to four different countries.

DRUMMOND: Yes, and it was a great trip. And what we were doing on that trip, as you remember, is trying to explain to Treasury Secretary Paul O'Neill, his policy people, but also folks back home, who were watching CNN and the other shows that were covering the trip, the extent of the AIDS crisis in Africa, but also how much can be done about it.

And the great news is, I was back in Africa two weeks ago with Brad Pitt, as it happen, and we were able to go to the same hospitals you and I and Bono visited, and we were able to see people who are now on life-saving antiretrovirals who weren't on those before. We were able to go to clinics where mothers were able to put their children on these life-saving drugs so that they wouldn't catch AIDS even if the mothers did.

The things we were trying to explain two-and-a-half years ago, they're now starting to happen. This is the first World AIDS Day where the United States really has tens of thousands of people in Africa now who are living with AIDS, but are now on the life-saving antiretrovirals. And that's a great thing to celebrate, even though it's just a start.

KAGAN: And we did see -- one of the eye-opening things about that trip two years ago was to see different things are happening in different countries. Now, Uganda, for instance, this was a place where there was progress, even two years ago where you were just starting to see the introduction of those drugs.

DRUMMOND: Yes. And also, of course, Uganda is famous for having brought down the prevalence of HIV/AIDS amongst the adult population drastically, through aggressive leadership from President Museveni, the president of Uganda, we're now starting to see a much stronger leadership across Africa from other leaders, which is also a very positive sign. And a sign that, you know, American assistance here, American leadership on these issues is really building up Africa's own resistance and Africa's own fight back against HIV/AIDS.

But we still have to emphasize, there's a lot more to do. The U.S. government estimates -- today it has 25,000 people it has put on antiretroviral drugs in Africa. That's a great start. Sadly, 6,300 Africans die every day of AIDS. So that's about four days worth of -- sadly, at that death rate. So there's so much more to do. We started, but there's so much more to do.

KAGAN: And the effects of this disease -- I know my eyes were opened, especially in Ethiopia where we visited two orphanages there, Jamie. One had healthy children there, but there was almost -- I think at that time -- about a half million children who had become orphans because their parents had died of AIDS. So there was that orphanage, but then there was also the orphanage that cared for children who are HIV positive.

DRUMMOND: Yes, that's an extraordinary project run by Sister Benedicta (ph), from Mother Teresa's order. And there are now a million AIDS orphans in Ethiopia alone, 12 million AIDS orphans across Africa.

In that particular orphanage, there are now about 400 AIDS orphans living with AIDS in a building just outside Addis Ababa (ph). So the crisis is still out of control. It is still -- there's still a huge amount to do.

I think so we have a kind of a mixed message, this World AIDS Day. On the one hand, there's been a great start. America's starting to deliver more assistance, more anti-retrovirals. We're seeing these drugs work. They're saving lives. We're getting them to the key places.

However, it's just the beginning. The government wants to -- Congress and President Bush want to put 200,000 Africans on anti- retrovirals by June next year, and we surely hope they get there and exceed that. Africa needs something like two million people in the continent put on anti-retrovirals, if we're going to kind of stop the terrible death rate.

KAGAN: And it takes people like you who don't give up the fight and the cause.

Jamie, thank you for that, and thanks for making time for us on this WORLD AIDS Day.

DRUMMOND: Thank you very much. And...

KAGAN: Jamie Drummond, from Data.

Go ahead.

DRUMMOND: I was just going to say, one of the great things, one of the reasons why there's all this campaign support from the Bush government now and from the Congress is because Americans are coming together to support the one campaign, which you can find out more about, if you want to do more about the AIDS crisis, go to the onecampaign.org, and you'll see there how you can put pressure on Congress, how you can call the White House and encourage much more assistance from the United States in the fight against HIV/AIDS and extreme poverty.

KAGAN: And it has been fascinating to see this get support from people from all different political persuasions.

Jamie, thank you for that.

KAGAN: Thank you.

DRUMMOND: Thanks for the additional reference.

KAGAN: And you can catch Dr. Sanjay Gupta's entire special on AIDS. It's called "ARE YOU POSITIVE?" It airs today at 3:00 p.m. Eastern and tonight at 11:00 Eastern, 8:00 Pacific, right here on CNN.

And for more on the changing face of Aids in Africa, you can log on to CNN.com/aids. The Web site also has an animation explaining how HIV infects a single cell.

SANCHEZ: We told you about that multicar pileup just outside of Detroit. What is the weather in places like the Midwest? In fact, we'll share it with you. Weather's next. Stay with us.

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KAGAN: Here's the information that's coming in to us right now. Shots have been fired, in fact, exchanged, is the word that's being used, right outside the presidential palace in Haiti. This comes at a time when the U.S. Secretary of State Colin Powell happens to be traveling to the country, and late word is that the meeting that the Secretary of State Colin Powell was going to have there with Haitian officials has had to be moved as a result of this exchange of gunfire.

Let's go to Andrea Koppel. She's following things for us at the State Department to bring up to date. Andrea, over to you.

ANDREA KOPPEL, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Rick, unfortunately, we don't have a lot of information, and I should say that State Department officials don't have a lot of information about what you've just laid out there for our viewers.

What I can tell you that Secretary of State Powell is in Port-Au- Prince, in the capital of Haiti. This is a one-day trip. He went down there, really on very short notice. Because the U.S. was so concerned about the security on the ground in Haiti, there is a lot of violence that's been taking place amongst supporters of the now- deposed President Jean-Bertrand Aristide, and those who Powell, Secretary Powell is meeting with right now in the presidential palace.

What I can tell you, as you laid out there, that according to State Department officials, Secretary Powell was holding meetings with President Bonafis Alexander (ph), with the prime minister and others, inside the presidential palace, and there was an exchange of gunfire between palace guards and unknown gunmen who were outside the presidential palace.

Everyone is safe. Secretary Powell is safe. Everyone in the secretary's party is safe. And those meetings are supposed to be moved. Whether or not they've actually moved outside the palace, we don't know.

What I can tell you, Rick, is that -- can you hear me?

SANCHEZ: Yes, yes, I can hear you.

And I suppose, Andrea, for the benefit of background, this really puts the United States in a peculiar situation, because many in Haiti, and especially those who backed, as you know, Jean-Bertrand Aristide, feel that he was forced out by the U.S. government, in this case, Secretary of State Colin Powell representing the U.S. government. Certainly we don't know, nor would we add conjecture to this, to add whether the shots were aimed or fired in response to his visit.

But it does put the United States in a bit of a quagmire here, going to a country where many of the people feel that their ex- president was pushed out, correct?

BLITZER: That is correct, Wolf -- I'm sorry, Rick. Right now, it is a situation on the ground in Haiti that Secretary Powell has stepped into that has to do with local conflict. There is a lot of dissatisfaction with the way that Jean-Bertrand Aristide was removed from power. A lot of his supporters believe that the U.S. forced him leave, misled him as to what in fact his future was going to be, and actually spirited him onto a plane and forced him to leave the country against his will.

So right now what you have is Secretary Powell, who is there not really talking about local affairs, but much more talking about at least according to the State Department, the recent humanitarian disaster that has hit Haiti following recent hurricanes there. And you also have a situation where it's -- today is World AIDS Day, and Secretary Powell was going there, obviously the Haitians have been suffering from the disease, trying to pledge U.S. support for research and for humanitarian assistance, but this is, we don't know, Rick, whether or not this was a case where Secretary Powell was simply in the wrong place at the wrong time, or whether or not this was something that was a deliberate attack, trying to target Secretary Powell.

SANCHEZ: Yes, obviously it is a story that's still unfolding, just coming to us moments ago. And we're going to stay on top of it. We thank Andrea Koppel who hustled to get to the phone to help us provide some background on this ongoing story that we will continue to develop here on CNN.

KAGAN: And we're going to turn it over to Wolf Blitzer, who I'm sure will continue to track this story.

For Rick Sanchez, I'm Daryn Kagan. We will see you tomorrow morning.

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RICK SANCHEZ, CNN ANCHOR: President Bush is about to speak in Halifax, Nova Scotia, any moment now in fact. There he is. We take you live there so you can listen in.
GEORGE W. BUSH, PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES: Thank you all. Thanks very much.

(APPLAUSE)

Thank you.

(APPLAUSE)

Please be seated.

(APPLAUSE)

Thank you all very much. Thanks for warm welcome, Mr. Prime Minister.

BUSH: I thank you and Mrs. Martin for a fantastic dinner last night in Ottawa. We really loved it.

My only regret today is that Laura's not with me. She went home to thank those who have been decorating the White House for the great Christmas season that's coming up. I married well.

(LAUGHTER)

I appreciate the premiers who are here.

Premier Hamm, thank you for your hospitality.

Premier Lord, Premier Binns and Premier Williams, I appreciate you all joining us.

I want to specifically mention the premiers because as an ex- governor, I feel a special kinship...

(LAUGHTER)

... to those who run the provinces here in Canada.

But thank you for your service.

Ambassador Cellucci, mayors, local officials, distinguished guests, ladies and gentlemen, I am honored to be with you today to reaffirm America's enduring ties to your country.

(APPLAUSE)

I am really glad to be in Canada and I'm really glad to be among friends. I appreciate the warm hospitality we've received.

In the past year, I've come to know your new prime minister. We've met in Mexico, in the United States, in Chile and now in Canada.

Paul Martin is the leader who is asserting Canada's good influence in the world.

And as I prepare for a second term in office, I look forward to a successful working partnership between our two countries.

BUSH: Paul and I share a great vision for the future: two prosperous, independent nations joined together by the return of NHL hockey.

(APPLAUSE)

I told Paul that I really have only one regret about this visit to Canada. There's a prominent citizen who endorsed me in the 2000 election and I wanted a chance to finally thank him for that endorsement. I was hoping to meet Jean Poutine.

(APPLAUSE)

I'm proud to stand in this historic place, which has welcomed home so many Canadians who defended liberty overseas and where so many new Canadians began their North American dream.

I'm grateful for the hospitality shown by the people of this fine city who have been so very kind to Americans before.

Three years ago, Halifax and other towns and villages from Newfoundland to Manitoba to the Northwest Territories to British Columbia welcomed, as the prime minister mentioned, more than 33,000 passengers on diverted flights. For days after September the 11th, Canadians came to the aid of men and women and children who were worried and confused and had nowhere to sleep.

You opened your homes and your churches to strangers. You brought food. You set up clinics. You arranged for calls to their loved ones. And you asked for nothing in return.

One American declared, "My heart is overwhelmed at the outpouring of Canadian compassion. How does a person say thank you to a nation?"

Well, that's something a president can do.

So let me say directly to the Canadian people and to all of you here today who welcomed Americans, thank you for your kindness to America in an hour of need.

(APPLAUSE) BUSH: That emergency revealed the good and generous heart of this country and showed the true feelings of Canadians and Americans toward each other. The affection that appeared in an instant will always be there and it runs deep.

Beyond the words of politicians and the natural disagreements that nations will have, our two peoples are one family and always will be.

(APPLAUSE)

We're united in part by the daily contact of commerce, and both our nations are better off for it.

In the 10 years since the North American Free Trade Agreement was enacted, trade between the United States and Canada has nearly doubled. Twenty-three percent of America's exports go directly north. And more than 80 percent of Canadians' exports go to my country.

So much trade there are bound to be some disagreements. I proudly ate some Alberta beef last night and I'm still standing.

(LAUGHTER)

(APPLAUSE)

With determined efforts and relying on sound science and mutual good will, we can resolve issues.

Take, for example, those PEI potatoes.

Right, Mr. Premier?

(LAUGHTER)

Canada represents America's most vital trade relationship in the whole world. And we will do all that is necessary to keep that relationship strong.

Yet our ties go deeper than trade. Our community of values reaches back centuries.

BUSH: Canada and the U.S. may have disagreed on the wisdom of separating from the crown, but we've always agreed on the great principles of liberty derived from our common heritage.

We believe in the dignity of every human life. And we believe in the right of every person to live in freedom. We believe in free markets, humanized by compassion and fairness. We believe a diverse society can also be united by principles of justice and equality.

The values we hold have made us good neighbors for centuries. And they will keep us as strong allies and good friends for the centuries to come.

(APPLAUSE) These shared convictions have also led our great democracies to accept a mission in the wider world. We know it is not possible to live in quiet isolation of our peaceful continent, hoping the problems and challenges of other nations will pass us by. We know there can be no security, no lasting peace in a world where proliferation and terrorism and genocide and extreme poverty go unopposed.

We know that our own interests are served by an international system that advances human rights and open societies and free trade and the rule of law and the hope that comes from self-government.

Both Canada and the United States have accepted important global duties and we will meet those responsibilities for our own benefit and for the good of mankind.

Canada's leadership is helping to build a better world. Over the past decade, Canadian troops have helped bring stability to Bosnia and Kosovo.

BUSH: Canada's willingness to send peacekeepers to Haiti saved thousands of lives and helped save Haiti's constitutional government.

Canadian troops are serving bravely in Afghanistan at this hour. Other Canadians stand on guard for peace in the Middle East, in Cyprus, Sudan and the Congo.

Just two weeks ago, NATO countries showed their esteem for your military by electing General Ray Henault as chairman of NATO's Military Committee.

This admiration for your armed forces goes way back, and for good reason. It was said during World War I "The Canadians never budge." America respects the skill and honor and the sacrifice of Canada's armed forces.

Our nations play independent roles in the world, yet our purposes are complementary.

We have important work ahead. A new term in office is an important opportunity to reach out to our friends. We hope to foster a wide international consensus among three great goals.

The first great commitment is to defend our security and spread freedom by building effective multinational and multilateral institutions and supporting effective multilateral action.

The tasks of the 21st century -- from fighting proliferation, to fighting the scourge of HIV/AIDS, to fighting poverty and hungry -- cannot be accomplished by a single nation alone. The United States and Canada participate together in more multilateral institutions than perhaps any two nations on Earth.

From NATO in Europe to the OAS in the Western Hemisphere to APEC in the Pacific, Canada and the United States are working with a coalition of nations, through the Proliferation Security Initiative, to stop and seize shipments of weapons of mass destruction, materials and delivery systems on land and at sea and in the air.

America always prefers to act with allies at our side. And we're grateful that Canada for working closely with us to confront the challenges of Iran and North Korea.

Multilateral organizations can do great good in the world.

BUSH: Yet the success of multilateralism is measured not merely by following a process, but by achieving results. The objective of the U.N. and other institutions must be collective security, not endless debate. For the sake of peace, when those bodies promise serious consequences, serious consequences must follow.

America and Canada helped create the United Nations and because we remain committed to that institution, we want it to be more than a League of Nations.

My country is determined to work as far as possible within the framework of international organizations and we're hoping that other nations will work with us to make those institutions more relevant and more effective in meeting the unique threats of our time.

Our second commitment is to fight global terrorism with every action and resource the task requires. Canada has taken a series of critical steps to guard against the danger of terrorism. You created the Department of Public Safety and Emergency Preparedness. You've toughened your anti-terror laws. You're upgrading your intelligence. And I want to thank the government for all those constructive and important decisions.

Our two countries are working together every day to keep our people safe. That is the most solemn duty that I have and the most solemn duty the prime minister has.

From the Smart Border Accord to the Container Security Initiative to the joint command of NORAD, we are working together.

I hope we'll also move forward on ballistic missile defense cooperation to protect the next generation of Canadians and Americans from the threats we know will arise.

The energetic defense of our nations is an important duty, yet defense alone is not a sufficient strategy.

BUSH: On September the 11th, the people of North America learned that two vast oceans and friendly neighbors cannot fully shield us from the dangers of the 21st century.

There is only one way to deal with enemies who plot in secret and set out to murder the innocent and the unsuspecting: We must take the fight to them. We must be relentless, and we must be steadfast in our duty to protect our people.

Both of the countries have learned this lesson.

In the early days of World War II, when the United States was still wrestling with isolationism, Canadian forces were already engaging the enemies of freedom across the atlantic.

At the time, some Canadians argued that Canada had not been attacked and had no interest in fighting a distant war.

Your prime minister, Mackenzie King, gave this answer: "We cannot defend our country and save our homes and families by waiting for the enemy to attack us. To remain on the defensive is the surest way to bring the war to Canada."

Of course, we should protect our coasts and strengthen our ports and cities against attack.

But the prime minister went on to say, "We must also go out and meet the enemy before he reaches our shores. We must defeat him before he attacks us, before our cities are laid to waste."

Mackenzie King was correct then, and we must always remember the wisdom of his words today.

In the new era, the threat is different but our duties are the same. Our enemies have declared their intentions, and so have we.

Peaceful nations must keep the peace by going after the terrorists and disrupting their plans and cutting off their funding.

We must hold the sponsors of terror equally responsible for terrorist acts. We must prevent outlaw regimes from gaining weapons of mass destruction and providing them to terrorists.

We must stay at these efforts with patience and resolve until we prevail.

BUSH: Our third great commitment is to enhance our own security by promoting freedom and hope and democracy in the broader Middle East.

The United States and Canada and all three nations need to look ahead. If 20 years from now, the Middle East is dominated by dictators and mullahs who build weapons of mass destruction and harbor terrorists, our children and our grandchildren will live in a nightmare world of danger. That must not happen.

By taking the side of reformers and democrats in the Middle East, we will gain allies in the war on terror and isolate the ideology of murder and help to defeat the despair and hopelessness that feeds terror. The world will become a much safer place as democracy advances.

After decades of tyranny and neglect in the broader Middle East, progress toward freedom will not come easily. I know that. Yet it is cultural condescension to claim that some peoples or some cultures or some religions are destined to despotism and unsuited for self- government.

Today in the Middle East, the doubters and pessimists are being proven wrong. We're seeing movement toward elections and greater rights for women and open discussion of peaceful reform.

I believe that people across the Middle East are weary of poverty and oppression and plead in silence for their liberty. I believe this is a historic moment in the Middle East, and we must seize this moment by standing with everyone who stands for liberty.

We are standing with the people of Afghanistan, a nation that has gone from a safe haven for terrorists to a steadfast ally in the war on terror in three and a half short years.

Canada deployed more than 7,000 troops and much of your navy in support of Operation Enduring Freedom. This year, your country has led the International Security Assistance Force in Kabul.

BUSH: The coalition we share is doing honorable work. Yet democracy is taking hold in that country because the Afghan people, like people everywhere, want to live in freedom. They registered by the millions to vote in October. They stood in long lines on election day.

An Afghan widow brought all four of her daughters to vote alongside her. She said, "When you see women here lined up to vote, this is something profound. I never dreamed this day would come."

But that woman's dream finally arrived, as it will one day across the Middle East.

(APPLAUSE)

These are unprecedented, historic events that many said would never come. And Canadians can be proud of the part you have played in the advance of human liberty.

You must also stand with the brave people of Iraq who are preparing for elections on January the 30th. Sometimes even the closest of friends disagree and two years ago we disagreed about the best course of action in Iraq. Yet as your prime minister made clear in Washington earlier this year, there is no disagreement at all with what has to be done in going forward.

We must help the Iraqi people secure their country and build a free and democratic society. The Canadian government has pledged more than $200 million in humanitarian aid and reconstruction assistance and agreed to relieve more than $450 million in Iraqi debt.

That help is greatly appreciated. There's more work to be done together.

Both Canada and the United States and all three nations have a vital interest in the success of a free Iraq. The terrorists have made Iraq the central front in the war on terror because they know what is at stake.

BUSH: When a free and democratic society is established in Iraq, in the heart of the Middle East, it will be a decisive blow to their aspirations to dominate the region and its people. A free Iraq will be a standing rebuke to radicalism and a model to reformers from Damascus to Tehran.

In Fallujah and elsewhere, our coalition and Iraqi forces are on the offensive and we are delivering a message: freedom, not oppression, is the future of Iraq.

Freedom is a precious right for every individual, regardless of the color of their skin or the religion they may hold.

A long night of terror and tyranny in that region is ending and a new day of freedom and hope and self-government is on the way.

(APPLAUSE)

And we will stand with the Palestinian and Israeli peoples and help end the destructive conflict between them.

Prime Minister Martin has expressed the desire of his government to take a broader role in the quest for peace and democracy, and America welcomes your involvement. It's a time of change and a time of hope in that region.

We seek justice and dignity and a viable, independent and democratic state for the Palestinian people.

We seek security and peace for the state of Israel, a state that Canada, like America, first recognized in 1948.

These are worthy goals in themselves. And by reaching them, we will also remove an excuse for hatred and violence in the broader Middle East.

Achieving peace in the Holy Land is not just a matter of pressuring one side or the other on the shape of a border or the site of a settlement. This approach has been tried before without success.

As we negotiate the details of peace, we must look to the heart of the matter, which is the need for a Palestinian democracy.

BUSH: The Palestinian people deserve a peaceful government that truly serves their interests and the Israeli people need a true partner in peace.

Our destination is clear: two states, Israel and Palestine, living side by side in peace and security. And that destination can be reached by only one path: the path of democracy and reform and the rule of law.

If all parties will apply effort, if all nations who are concerned about this issue will apply good will, this conflict can end and peace can be achieved. And the time for that effort and the time for that good will is now.

The United States and Canada face common threats in our world and we share common goals that can transform our world. We're bound by history and geography and trade and by our deepest convictions.

With so much in common and so much at stake, we cannot be divided.

I realize, and many Americans realize, that it's not always easy to sleep next to the elephant.

(LAUGHTER)

Sometimes our laws and our actions affect Canada every bit as much as they affect us. And we need to remember that.

And when frustrations are vented, we must not take it personally. As a member of Canada's Parliament said in the 1960s, "The United States is our friend whether we like it or not."

(APPLAUSE)

When all is said and done, we are friends and we like it.

(APPLAUSE)

Three years ago, when the American planes were diverted away from home, passengers knew they were safe and welcome the moment they saw the maple leaf flag. One of them later said, of the Canadians he met, "They taught me the meaning of the word 'friend.'"

BUSH: For generations, the nation of Canada has defined the word "friend," and my country is grateful.

God has blessed America in many ways. God has blessed us because we have neighbors like you.

And today I ask that God continues to bless the people of Canada.

Thank you.

(APPLAUSE)

DARYN KAGAN, CNN ANCHOR: President Bush, speaking in Halifax, Nova Scotia, trying to strike a theme of friendship. The main point of the speech being that the people of Nova Scotia coming to the aid of travelers, a lot of American travelers who were stranded there on that very island right after 9/11.

SANCHEZ: And he was also very firm, as far as his foreign policy. He was essentially saying, look, this is what I have done, this is what we have done, this is what my administration have done, and we are not going to apologize for it.

Also took a shot at the idea of multilateralism in its present form and the United Nations. At one point, he said, "We must look for result, not endless debate." Said the United Nations should be just that, a United Nations, not a league of nations.

Interesting. I was watching, and for like 10 to 12 minutes, when he was speaking about Iraq and U.S. policy, there was no applause from this very polite audience. But once he started speaking about Afghanistan and the Palestinian cause, then there was a reaction.

KAGAN: And they do a little satellite tour. And that's why we were seeing a different correspondent.

Our John King, our senior White House correspondent, is there, and talking more about what he heard the president was saying.

Good morning, John.

JOHN KING, CNN SR. WHITE HOUSE CORRESPONDENT: Good morning to you, Daryn.

An interesting speech from the president. On the one hand, no apologies about his decision to go to war in Iraq. No apologies, and a continued message that he believes organizations like the United Nations must be more robust, must be more willing to respond to threats in the world. But a very conciliatory tone from the president. As he put it, "A new term presents new opportunities."

There is proof around the world, proof here in Canada, with the demonstrations on the streets, the bitterness over the Iraq war lingers quite vehemently in many of these countries. What the president is trying to say is, let's try to move on.

And in the case of Canada, what he is trying to say is, perhaps this should be a model. Yes, we are friends. Sometimes we forcefully disagree. But let's remember, most of all, we are friends, and friends can put disagreements behind them.

So the president trying to defend his positions and defend his foreign policy today. But also suggests he will try to reach out in his second term, try to put all this behind him, try to revive some of these relationships that have been quite strained, not just by Iraq in the case of Canada, by some nasty trade disputes as well. And the president even trying a bit of humor in making that case, saying one thing he shares with the Canadian prime minister is the hope that we can get the National Hockey League back.

So a bit of humor in the president's new diplomacy -- Daryn.

KAGAN: Yes, a lot of hockey players available this season to sit around and watch presidential speeches. Speaking of humor, John, put in perspective and in context an -- a kind of inside Canadian joke the president made off the top in making reference to -- I think it was John Peuteen (ph).

KING: Jean Peuteen is the mythical Canadian prime minister. Back in the 2000 campaign, the president was asked by some Canadian humorists, they might call themselves journalists, that he was told, do you know the Canadian Prime Minister John Peuteen thinks you're them an to lead the United States. And Mr. Bush said, oh, is that right? So the president at the time, it was unclear whether he actually though that was the Canadian prime minister, or whether he was just taking the bait of that joke, but it became quite a bit of a laughing matter, especially in Canada, at a time in the presidential campaign when many were wondering whether this governor of Texas at the time, George W. Bush, was truly up to the task of leading the United States on the world stage.

SANCHEZ: I think...

KING: So humor from the president.

SANCHEZ: Last time we checked, I think Peuteen is something you eat, I think it's something like French fries with gravy or something like that.

John, were you struck when the president took a terse tone toward multilateralism and the United Nations, when he said they need to be a United Nations, not a League of Nations? And he used the term specifically "endless debate."

KING: Well, remember, that is a hangover of the Iraq debate. Mr. Bush says he went to the United Nations on several occasions and that the Security Council passed resolutions saying that Saddam Hussein should face serious consequences. The president would make the case, and will make the case, even as he tries to have a more conciliatory tone, that if the United Nations is going to say, do this or face serious consequences, and the person on the other end, the country on the other end, does not do that, then those organizations must impose the serious consequences. And the president saying that, not just to defend his position on Iraq, but to look ahead to the coming debates Iran, over North Korea, over any other threats that could come up, the debates over Middle East peace initiatives.

The president trying to say, he will always, first, try to work with others, but if those organizations say something, they better mean it, or else he will be willing, once again, to make the world mad, if you will, and step outside and act on his own.

KAGAN: John King, live from Nova Scotia. John, thank you for that.

SANCHEZ: Beautiful background behind John, by the way.

KAGAN: Yes, nice lighthouse.

SANCHEZ: Pretty to look at, well framed, as they say.

KAGAN: And we are going to take a break. A lot more news ahead, after this.

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KAGAN: Let's see what's happening now in the news. President Bush heads back to Washington this hour after wrapping up a two-day visit to Canada. This morning, traveled to Halifax to thank families who helped stranded airlines passengers after the 9/11 attacks. We saw the president speak live from Nova Scotia.

Tom Ridge has announced his resignation. Now it turns to speculation on his replacement as homeland security secretary. Among those mentioned as possible successors, White House homeland security adviser Frances Townsend and homeland security undersecretary Asa Hutchison.

Ukraine's parliament has issued a vote of no-confidence in that country's bitterly disputed presidential election. That would sack the newly named government of Viktor Yushchenko. He was declared the winner, despite exit polls showing the opposition candidate the clear winner. The country's supreme court has not yet weighed in on opposition charges that that vote was rigged.

And Private Lynndie England is in Ft. Bragg, in a courtroom there today, for motions ahead of her court-martial. England became a focal point of the Iraqi prison abuse scandal, because many of the photos showed her smiling and pointing at naked detainees.

Keeping you informed, CNN is the most trusted name in news.

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Our technology expert Dan Sieberg explains to you what this is.

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SUSANNA TROTTER, VICTIM OF IDENTITY THEFT: I don't have high speed.

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DANIEL SIEBERG, CNN CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): Susanna Trotter of Richmond, Virginia bought her first computer in 1999. Within three months, her credit card number was stolen.

TROTTER: I got an e-mail from AOL saying that they needed to check my billing.

SIEBERG: Though the message looked real, it was not from AOL, a corporate sister of CNN, by the way. It was from an online con artiest and when Susanna clicked on a link inside the e-mail, it directed her to what appeared to be a customer service page, complete with legitimate links, logos and all the right language. It even had drop down menus to select her choice of credit card. She was being duped by a very clever identity thief.

TROTTER: Well, the first thing I noticed was on my credit card that there was a charge that I didn't recognize.

SIEBERG: The thief had used the stolen credit card number to purchase some rather lewd content online.

TROTTER: And I called and it was a company out in California. And after much cajoling, I got the girl to tell me that it was an adult entertainment site. And I knew I hadn't signed up for that. SIEBERG (on camera): The company, of course, was tricked, too. It had nothing to do with Trotter's stolen credit card information. The scheme is called phishing, spelled with a PH, not an F. And scammers cast wide nets in the form of mass e-mails, hoping to reel in unsuspecting victims who think the messages are legitimate.

Sometimes, however, their tactics backfire and they hook the wrong guy.

(voice-over): An FBI agent in the Norfolk field office received the same phony AOL message as Susanna. His name is Joe Vuhasz, but we can't show you his face for investigative reasons.

JOE VUHASZ, FBI AGENT: I think there is some sort of irony in the fact that they were sending the e-mail messages out in such abundance that it just happened that I had to get one. And one of the things that I specialize in is cyber crime. So I think there is some sort of poetic justice.

SIEBERG: The phishers had hooked an FBI agent and he had the means to track them down. Helen Carr and George Patterson are now serving time in federal prison. Their lure of choice was AOL, but other common phishing e-mails purport to be from eBay, PayPal, Citibank and U.S. Bank, among others.

EILEEN HARRINGTON, FTC CONSUMER PROTECTION BUREAU: Phishers send out huge volume of e-mail to people who may or may not have accounts with the companies that they pretend to be on the theory that these companies do so much business that some of the people who receive these e-mails are bound to have accounts or have done business with them and will bite.

SIEBERG: According to one study, 57 million U.S. adults believe they've received a phishing attack e-mail. It's estimated that 11 million of those people actually clicked on the e-mail's links to the fake Web sites. And the trend is on the rise. According to the Anti- Phishing Working Group, with a 52 percent average monthly growth rate through June 2004.

The Federal Trade Commission operates the largest consumer complaint databases in North America. Eileen Harrington says phishing is becoming a huge problem, but it's a crime that's completely preventable.

HARRINGTON: Do not ever provide account information, a PIN, a social security number, any kind of personally identifiable information like that in response to an e-mail, even if you think it's from a legitimate and reputable company, because that's not the way that these companies do business.

SIEBERG: Susanna was able to reverse the charges on her credit card, but was rattled by the whole experience.

TROTTER: I had felt like I was safe. I didn't know enough to realize I wasn't safe. And sure, ever since that happened, I'm very, very careful. SIEBERG: On the Internet, seeing is not believing. The logos, language and look of anything online are very easy to copy. If you think your billing records need updating, don't take the e-mail's word for it. Contact the company independently and directly yourself.

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SIEBERG: The best way to do that is by phone. And if you type in the company's Web site from scratch, that's always the best way to go. Don't go there from a link within an e-mail message. You can look up the number of the company on the site and call. Even then, remember that real companies will not ask you to update your billing information in this way.

Now some bad news, recent statistics do show that phishing e-mail scams are on the rise as we enter the holiday season and more people are buying gifts online. So it's going to take a sharp eye and some vigilance not to get hooked -- Rick.

SANCHEZ: So these are like fake Web sites. Is it -- can anybody do it? Is it easy? Is it hard to do that?

SIEBERG: Well, for the average person creating a Web site might be a bit tricky. That's the unfortunate side of all this, is it's actually fairly easy for these scammers to create a legitimate-looking Web site. Really they're cutting and pasting what look like real logos to a fake looking Web site.

The hard part is in tracking them down. The authorities have a tough time finding some of these scammers because they do cover their tracks so well. Basically, we need more FBI agents like Joe, who was in our piece there, to track these guys down.

SANCHEZ: All right. Thanks so much, Dan, appreciate it. And by the way, be sure to tune in tomorrow, this same time, we're going to take a closer look at the workplace privacy issue. Do you know who's watching you when you're in the office, Daryn, for example?

KAGAN: Yes, you're watching me.

SANCHEZ: That's 11:00 a.m. Eastern, right here, on CNN LIVE TODAY. And one other thing, you can always find a wealth of tech news and features at cnn.com. What have you got to do to get there? Well, it's easy, just click on "technology" and you'll be all set.

KAGAN: Just a few minutes ago we were watching President Bush live from Nova Scotia. He's headed back to Washington. We're also getting word now that King Abdullah of Jordan will be coming to the White House first thing next week on Monday. The king of Jordan coming to meet with President Bush. This word just being put out. It's possible that with the death of Yasser Arafat, the Palestinian leader, this could be the start, the talks, of what could be the beginning of an effort to bring greater peace to the Middle East. The king of Jordan and his father trying to be involved in that in the past. And you heard President Bush mention peace in the Middle East in his speech. So king of Jordan, King Abdullah, coming to the White House on Monday.

SANCHEZ: Not to mention Abdullah has had some very strong reaction to the situation in Iraq, not always agreeing with U.S. policy. So I imagine that might probably come up, too. Maybe a little arm-twisting.

Millions infected, thousands dead every year, it's the AIDS crisis. Far from over.

KAGAN: Up next, commemorating World AIDS Day. It is part of our "Daily Dose" of health news.

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SANCHEZ: On this 17th World Aids Day, it's a day for demonstrators to hit the streets in many places. Researchers in India say they are going to begin human trials on a new AIDS vaccine. Thirty adult volunteers are going to take part. This is going to begin in January, we understand. The vaccine is going to target subtype C of the virus, the dominant strain in India, for example. More than 5 million Indians are living with HIV. The country is second only to parts of South Africa, as far as the number of AIDS cases are concerned.

KAGAN: Well, on this World AIDS Day, the numbers can be overwhelming. At least 38 million people worldwide are infected with HIV/AIDS according the worldaidsday.org. Eight thousand people die of AIDS-related causes every day. That translates to five deaths every minute. And most of those are in Africa. I welcome Jamie Drummond, he is the executive director of DATA, which stands for Debt AIDS Trade Africa. The group was co-founded in 2002 by the rock star Bono.

Jamie, good to see you.

JAMIE DRUMMOND, EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR, DATA: Good morning, Daryn.

KAGAN: And of course we go back about two years. I went with you and Bono and we traveled Africa and saw AIDS and what's happening there firsthand as we traveled to four different countries.

DRUMMOND: Yes, and it was a great trip. And what we were doing on that trip, as you remember, is trying to explain to Treasury Secretary Paul O'Neill, his policy people, but also folks back home, who were watching CNN and the other shows that were covering the trip, the extent of the AIDS crisis in Africa, but also how much can be done about it.

And the great news is, I was back in Africa two weeks ago with Brad Pitt, as it happen, and we were able to go to the same hospitals you and I and Bono visited, and we were able to see people who are now on life-saving antiretrovirals who weren't on those before. We were able to go to clinics where mothers were able to put their children on these life-saving drugs so that they wouldn't catch AIDS even if the mothers did.

The things we were trying to explain two-and-a-half years ago, they're now starting to happen. This is the first World AIDS Day where the United States really has tens of thousands of people in Africa now who are living with AIDS, but are now on the life-saving antiretrovirals. And that's a great thing to celebrate, even though it's just a start.

KAGAN: And we did see -- one of the eye-opening things about that trip two years ago was to see different things are happening in different countries. Now, Uganda, for instance, this was a place where there was progress, even two years ago where you were just starting to see the introduction of those drugs.

DRUMMOND: Yes. And also, of course, Uganda is famous for having brought down the prevalence of HIV/AIDS amongst the adult population drastically, through aggressive leadership from President Museveni, the president of Uganda, we're now starting to see a much stronger leadership across Africa from other leaders, which is also a very positive sign. And a sign that, you know, American assistance here, American leadership on these issues is really building up Africa's own resistance and Africa's own fight back against HIV/AIDS.

But we still have to emphasize, there's a lot more to do. The U.S. government estimates -- today it has 25,000 people it has put on antiretroviral drugs in Africa. That's a great start. Sadly, 6,300 Africans die every day of AIDS. So that's about four days worth of -- sadly, at that death rate. So there's so much more to do. We started, but there's so much more to do.

KAGAN: And the effects of this disease -- I know my eyes were opened, especially in Ethiopia where we visited two orphanages there, Jamie. One had healthy children there, but there was almost -- I think at that time -- about a half million children who had become orphans because their parents had died of AIDS. So there was that orphanage, but then there was also the orphanage that cared for children who are HIV positive.

DRUMMOND: Yes, that's an extraordinary project run by Sister Benedicta (ph), from Mother Teresa's order. And there are now a million AIDS orphans in Ethiopia alone, 12 million AIDS orphans across Africa.

In that particular orphanage, there are now about 400 AIDS orphans living with AIDS in a building just outside Addis Ababa (ph). So the crisis is still out of control. It is still -- there's still a huge amount to do.

I think so we have a kind of a mixed message, this World AIDS Day. On the one hand, there's been a great start. America's starting to deliver more assistance, more anti-retrovirals. We're seeing these drugs work. They're saving lives. We're getting them to the key places.

However, it's just the beginning. The government wants to -- Congress and President Bush want to put 200,000 Africans on anti- retrovirals by June next year, and we surely hope they get there and exceed that. Africa needs something like two million people in the continent put on anti-retrovirals, if we're going to kind of stop the terrible death rate.

KAGAN: And it takes people like you who don't give up the fight and the cause.

Jamie, thank you for that, and thanks for making time for us on this WORLD AIDS Day.

DRUMMOND: Thank you very much. And...

KAGAN: Jamie Drummond, from Data.

Go ahead.

DRUMMOND: I was just going to say, one of the great things, one of the reasons why there's all this campaign support from the Bush government now and from the Congress is because Americans are coming together to support the one campaign, which you can find out more about, if you want to do more about the AIDS crisis, go to the onecampaign.org, and you'll see there how you can put pressure on Congress, how you can call the White House and encourage much more assistance from the United States in the fight against HIV/AIDS and extreme poverty.

KAGAN: And it has been fascinating to see this get support from people from all different political persuasions.

Jamie, thank you for that.

KAGAN: Thank you.

DRUMMOND: Thanks for the additional reference.

KAGAN: And you can catch Dr. Sanjay Gupta's entire special on AIDS. It's called "ARE YOU POSITIVE?" It airs today at 3:00 p.m. Eastern and tonight at 11:00 Eastern, 8:00 Pacific, right here on CNN.

And for more on the changing face of Aids in Africa, you can log on to CNN.com/aids. The Web site also has an animation explaining how HIV infects a single cell.

SANCHEZ: We told you about that multicar pileup just outside of Detroit. What is the weather in places like the Midwest? In fact, we'll share it with you. Weather's next. Stay with us.

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KAGAN: Here's the information that's coming in to us right now. Shots have been fired, in fact, exchanged, is the word that's being used, right outside the presidential palace in Haiti. This comes at a time when the U.S. Secretary of State Colin Powell happens to be traveling to the country, and late word is that the meeting that the Secretary of State Colin Powell was going to have there with Haitian officials has had to be moved as a result of this exchange of gunfire.

Let's go to Andrea Koppel. She's following things for us at the State Department to bring up to date. Andrea, over to you.

ANDREA KOPPEL, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Rick, unfortunately, we don't have a lot of information, and I should say that State Department officials don't have a lot of information about what you've just laid out there for our viewers.

What I can tell you that Secretary of State Powell is in Port-Au- Prince, in the capital of Haiti. This is a one-day trip. He went down there, really on very short notice. Because the U.S. was so concerned about the security on the ground in Haiti, there is a lot of violence that's been taking place amongst supporters of the now- deposed President Jean-Bertrand Aristide, and those who Powell, Secretary Powell is meeting with right now in the presidential palace.

What I can tell you, as you laid out there, that according to State Department officials, Secretary Powell was holding meetings with President Bonafis Alexander (ph), with the prime minister and others, inside the presidential palace, and there was an exchange of gunfire between palace guards and unknown gunmen who were outside the presidential palace.

Everyone is safe. Secretary Powell is safe. Everyone in the secretary's party is safe. And those meetings are supposed to be moved. Whether or not they've actually moved outside the palace, we don't know.

What I can tell you, Rick, is that -- can you hear me?

SANCHEZ: Yes, yes, I can hear you.

And I suppose, Andrea, for the benefit of background, this really puts the United States in a peculiar situation, because many in Haiti, and especially those who backed, as you know, Jean-Bertrand Aristide, feel that he was forced out by the U.S. government, in this case, Secretary of State Colin Powell representing the U.S. government. Certainly we don't know, nor would we add conjecture to this, to add whether the shots were aimed or fired in response to his visit.

But it does put the United States in a bit of a quagmire here, going to a country where many of the people feel that their ex- president was pushed out, correct?

BLITZER: That is correct, Wolf -- I'm sorry, Rick. Right now, it is a situation on the ground in Haiti that Secretary Powell has stepped into that has to do with local conflict. There is a lot of dissatisfaction with the way that Jean-Bertrand Aristide was removed from power. A lot of his supporters believe that the U.S. forced him leave, misled him as to what in fact his future was going to be, and actually spirited him onto a plane and forced him to leave the country against his will.

So right now what you have is Secretary Powell, who is there not really talking about local affairs, but much more talking about at least according to the State Department, the recent humanitarian disaster that has hit Haiti following recent hurricanes there. And you also have a situation where it's -- today is World AIDS Day, and Secretary Powell was going there, obviously the Haitians have been suffering from the disease, trying to pledge U.S. support for research and for humanitarian assistance, but this is, we don't know, Rick, whether or not this was a case where Secretary Powell was simply in the wrong place at the wrong time, or whether or not this was something that was a deliberate attack, trying to target Secretary Powell.

SANCHEZ: Yes, obviously it is a story that's still unfolding, just coming to us moments ago. And we're going to stay on top of it. We thank Andrea Koppel who hustled to get to the phone to help us provide some background on this ongoing story that we will continue to develop here on CNN.

KAGAN: And we're going to turn it over to Wolf Blitzer, who I'm sure will continue to track this story.

For Rick Sanchez, I'm Daryn Kagan. We will see you tomorrow morning.

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