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Southern California Getting Hit Hard Again Today With Rain; 'New You Revolution'

Aired February 22, 2005 - 11:32   ET

THIS IS A RUSH TRANSCRIPT. THIS COPY MAY NOT BE IN ITS FINAL FORM AND MAY BE UPDATED.

THIS IS A RUSH TRANSCRIPT. THIS COPY MAY NOT BE IN ITS FINAL FORM AND MAY BE UPDATED.


RICK SANCHEZ, CNN ANCHOR: Let's catch you up on the news and do so by bringing you the very latest story we've been following. Texas police have arrested this man, Stephen Barbee. They've charged him with capital murder in the case of the missing Fort Worth woman. Still no sign of Lisa Underwood or her 7-year-old son, seen her in this picture. She was reported missing Saturday when she failed to show up at her baby shower. Police do say they believe the two are deceased. That's all they have up until now.
Her car, as you can see, nose down in a creek. This is tape we got just literally seconds ago of an area in Denton, Texas, not far from where you saw that car that was found. This is the beginning of a search on horseback for any signs of the two bodies. Again, police have said, or confirmed, the two are deceased.

These are live pictures we're looking at now of the same search area, or search effort that's going on under there in -- on horseback. Wow.

Let's move on to the next story. Rescuers are trying to reach earthquake survivors in central Iran. The death toll from the 6.4 quake is quickly approaching 300. Dozens of small villages were hit. At least seven were destroyed. Heavy rain is making the rescue effort very difficult, we're told.

The first lady is in Germany today. She is meeting with soldiers and their family to thank them for their contributions in Iraq and Afghanistan. Laura Bush also visited about 20 wounded soldiers at Landstuhl regional hospital.

And Terri Schiavo's feeding tube could be removed this afternoon, leading her to die within two weeks. The severely brain damaged woman's parents are seeking an emergency stay to somehow keep her on life support. But their legal options are really running out. Schiavo's husband wants her life ended.

And in Alexandria, Virginia, a Saudi American man is charged with conspiring to assassinate President Bush. Twenty-three-year-old Ahmed Omar Abu Ali (ph) is a U.S. citizen and a former high school valedictorian. The indictment says that Ali, a U.S. citizen and an unidentified coconspirator discussed plans to kill the president, either by shooting him or by trying to detonate a bomb.

KAGAN: Southern California is getting hit hard again today with rain. Several more inches may fall before the weather clears tomorrow. But the saturated ground is already giving way. Sinkholes are opening up and roads, and slabs of mud are crashing into homes. At least six deaths are blamed on the latest round of storms. Already it's the fourth wettest season on record for Los Angeles. And it already has well over 30 inches of rain since July 1st.

James Hahn is the mayor of Los Angeles, and joins me live now from our bureau.

Mr. Mayor, good morning.

MYR. JAMES HAHN, LOS ANGELES: Good morning.

KAGAN: Good to have you out dry, or inside dry, out of the rain. As a native Angelino, just how bad is all of this rain?

HAHN: It's very bad, because so much of it has happened in such a short time. The numbers that you just talked about really doesn't tell the whole story, because that's usually over a whole rainy season. Most of this rain has fall in just a little over four or five weeks, and the ground just can't handle it, and this ground has been saturated to the point where any additional rainfall causes the slides you are seeing.

You know, I'm here at the Hollywood studio a few blocks away from the Hollywood Freeway, which last night could have been called the Hollywood river, had four feet of water in it.

KAGAN: You actually had to pump the water to keep the freeway open.

HAHN: Absolutely. So it's much rain in such a short amount of time, and it's not concentrated in one area. We have problems all over the city of Los Angeles. Just this morning, the Highland Park area...

KAGAN: And we're actually looking at live pictures right now of that situation in Highland Park, Mr. Mayor.

HAHN: Yes, four homes have been red-tagged right there.

KAGAN: So you have declared a state of emergency. As a mayor, how powerful is that? And what will that do for the citizens of Los Angeles?

HAHN: What happens when you declare a state of emergency, and you get the governor, Governor Schwarzenegger, concurs, then we can forward our request to the federal government, and then that's the real benefit of that. When President Bush declared our Los Angeles County a disaster area, then we get help from FEMA, we get help from the small business agency to help with loans and grants for people, because most of this slide damage, as you know, is not covered by homeowners insurance.

KAGAN: Right, it's really a request for help, though, from other government agencies.

HAHN: Absolutely. KAGAN: Got it. Let's talk politics here for a minute. Political reality, Mr. Mayor. Two weeks from today, the citizens of Los Angeles go to the polls. You are locked in a very difficult, as I understand it, political battle looking for re-election. How bad timing are these storms, and how much would you say your next term could be on the line because of the weather and how you handle it?

HAHN: You know, I think the best way to win re-election is to do your job. And unfortunately for me, I'm in the middle of this election battle, but I have to do my job first as mayor, and so I'm out all over the city, going to places where -- we're coordinating work, the different city crews, department of water and power, public works, all the different city department, the fire department, and that's just what I have to do. That's what I get paid to do as mayor, and so that's what I'm concentrating on. I'm very proud of the city crews who are out there.

Unfortunately, one of our city employees lost his life the other night, Rory, Shaw (ph), a civil engineer who was helping to repair that big sinkhole that you saw out in Sun Valley, and so today, we're asking all the flags of city buildings to be flown at half staff in his memory. I just talked to him a few hours before he died at that location. It's a -- that's what I've got to be doing as mayor. And I'm very proud of the city crews who are out there, working around the clock, doing the best they can to hold up the city in the onslaught of this rainstorm Mother Nature is deluging us with.

KAGAN: The report saying that that civil engineer one of your most dedicated employee.

You grew up -- I know from growing up in Los Angeles myself, you grew up in Los Angeles political family. You must be very aware of what can happen here. I'm looking back to Chicago, 1979, that mayor's race, when a snowstorm completely changed the focus of how that race turned out.

HAHN: Yes, I remember that, too. That you can't the snow off the streets, that cost a mayor re-election.

My job is to do everything we can to coordinate our crews. We've got people working around the clock. We're dipping into all of our accounts to may the overtime of employees.

We know this is a big headache for people who live in this city. People are trying to move around the city, get to and from work and from school. And a lot of people have these beautiful homes, unfortunately, in our hilly areas. They have spectacular view of this great city. But when it rains, they are really in danger. So we're going to do the best we can. We can't save every home. Mother Nature has got a lot more tools in her toolbox than we do.

KAGAN: Well, we wish you well. Seems strange to wish Angelino dry skies, and yet that's what I'm sending your way.

HAHN: Well, thank you very much. Appreciate that. We could use it. KAGAN: Mayor James Hahn from Los Angeles, thank you, Mr Mayor.

HAHN: Thank you.

SANCHEZ: It sounds like he could use all the help he can.

KAGAN: Yes.

SANCHEZ: Well, the "New You Revolution" enters week six. And Thekla will learn how her legal skills will help her prepare for having a family. It's actually something every expectant mother should know.

We'll be back.

(COMMERCIAL BREAK)

SANCHEZ: Welcome back to CNN LIVE TODAY. I'm Rick Sanchez with Daryn Kagan.

Hard to believe, but we're already in the sixth week of our "New You Revolution," where we're helping five people try to break bad habits and start new ones, or healthy ones.

KAGAN: Yes, our medical correspondent Dr. Sanjay Gupta has the latest update on their progress.

(BEGIN VIDEOTAPE)

DR. SANJAY GUPTA, CNN MEDICAL CORRESPONDENT (on camera): All five participants continue to make progress, especially Thekla Fischer. Her challenge to us was to get her physically and mentally fit before she got pregnant.

(voice-over): To give Thekla a taste of coping with motherhood, we dropped her in a sea of children. She met with working moms, their babies and "Baby Talk" magazine editor Susan Kane at this very large play group.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Thekla is thinking about having a baby.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Have one.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: So we're kind of getting her ready.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Have one.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: I'm sure you will be nervous, but you'll come to realize that they're not an egg.

GUPTA: Overcoming this fear is only part of getting Thekla prepared for being a mom. Taking prenatal vitamins is, too, which she's finally doing.

SUSAN KANE, "BABY TALK" MAGAZINE: UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: You have to find a network of mom friends, so the support is absolutely crucial.

GUPTA: As an attorney, Thekla's legal skills can also play into baby matters, like ensuring enough maternity leave.

KANE: You don't want to be guilt-tripped into a shorter leave than you're legally allowed.

GUPTA: And Thekla admitted she needed help with something else: getting organized.

THEKLA FISCHER, "NEW YOU" PARTICIPANT: This is my idea of organization. This is bad. This is really bad.

GUPTA: So, we introduced her to Julie Morganstern, organizational expert and author of "Making Work Work."

JULIE MORGANSTERN, AUTHOR, "MAKING WORK WORK": So you just start your day in control.

GUPTA: Her tips for Thekla? Spend the first hour not answering the phone and e-mails. Instead, focus on one project. Use post-its to keep track of progress. And use a calendar.

MORGANSTERN: Once you have a baby, you can't hold all this stuff in your memory.

GUPTA (on camera): The other participants also appear to be getting closer to goals that motivated them to join the "New You Revolution in the first place. Here's their weekly update.

GUPTA (voice over): On the first day of our "New You Revolution," I asked Sandra why she wanted to break her bad habits.

SANDRA GARTH, "NEW YOU" PARTICIPANT: Eight weeks from now, I'm going to be at least 15 pounds down from where I am now.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: You've lost 15 pounds total, that's fantastic.

GARTH: Wow!

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: That's great.

GUPTA: She's almost there now, and she still has two weeks to go.

Harald has shed 20 pounds since starting his "New You Revolution." He's shooting baskets instead of eating baskets of fries. And he's learned a good habit: patience.

HARALD FRICKER, "NEW YOU" PARTICIPANT: In the past, I have lost 40 pounds in 40 days. Obviously, I've not only lost it and regained it, but then the proverbial "and then some."

GUPTA: Now he can live with the slower results, because he hopes the weight will stay off forever. LEIGH ANN RAYNOR, "NEW YOU" PARTICIPANT: It doesn't come off as fast as I put it on, does it?

GUPTA: Leigh Ann continues to do cardio, but had to stop one session because her heart rate was getting too high. But she's fine and is back to exercising the next day.

RAYNOR: And I think, you know, total I've lost like four or five inches.

GUPTA: She's following doctors' orders. The result? She's dropping about a pound a week.

For Jonathan's goal to stop biting his nails, he's been facing a new reality.

JONATHAN KARP, "NEW YOU" PARTICIPANT: When I was at the movies on Sunday, I was able to open up a box of candy for the first time, the plastic seal around the candy.

GUPTA: He's still using a nail file to keep the edges smooth, but sometimes he even goes too far.

KARP: I've got another two weeks before I think they'll be in perfect shape.

GUPTA: Dr. Sanjay Gutpa, CNN, for "The New You Revolution."

(END VIDEOTAPE)

KAGAN: Next week, we'll see if the "New You Revolution" has made a real impact on our participants. And you can follow the progress of all of our new you participants and e-mail them by logging on to CNN.com/newyou.

SANCHEZ: I wonder how the nail-biter is doing.

KAGAN: Filet mignon. I'll never forget that line. He saw a little bit of white on his nails. He called it filet mignon.

SANCHEZ: The little white part just makes me crazy.

Well, they deal with the details of the oh worst crimes in the cities. You've seen some of them on the "CSI" TV shows. What's it like to be a real crime scene unit, director, person.

KAGAN: We'll find out, coming up.

(COMMERCIAL BREAK)

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP FROM "CSI")

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: How many people have walked through the crime scene?

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Just the responding officers. Lug (ph) sole sizes 10 and 11.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: We're going to need some time here, Jim.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Yes, well, there's no rush now.

(END VIDEO CLIP FROM "CSI")

SANCHEZ: Boy, these types of shows are really popular lately, huh? The chalk outline on the sidewalks. Some obscure detail in search after cold blooded killer. The stuff of CBS's wildly popular show "CSI," like that scene you saw there just moments ago. It's really just art imitating real life, though.

My next guest is very familiar with the real crime scene investigation. There he is. That's Jim Norris. He's the former head of forensics for the San Francisco Police Department. He's in New Orleans, where they're having a conference. He's talking about searching for criminals and the new ways that they do so, like the BTK killer, for example, in Kansas.

And let's start there with the conversation, if we could, Mr. Norris. The fact that in the show, crimes are solved in what, an hour, 45 minutes of TV time? BTK killer's been going on since 1974. Big difference.

JIM NORRIS, FORMERLY OF SAN FRANCISCO POLICE: Well, yes. In reality, of course, it takes a long time to solve these crimes. But, of course, a television show has to wrap up in an hour and we usually take, you know, five or six years.

SANCHEZ: The technology these days is very different. This is my cell phone. If I would just committed a crime, I would imagine that you or others like you would ask, I want to see Rick Sanchez's cell phone. I want to find out who he called, for example. I want to go on his computer. I want to see who he's e-mailed. That's a big part of what you do today that you didn't do decades ago, right?

NORRIS: Oh, yes. Actually, cell phone forensics has now become a really big area because almost everybody carries a cell phone and you have videos, images, e-mails, numbers that you last called, things like that are all stored there and can be retrieved. But sometimes it's not as easy as you might think.

SANCHEZ: What do you mean? Why not?

NORRIS: Well, people will erase this material, but actually it's still stored on a little chip inside the phone. So it's kind of like a computer now. The cell phones are really little computers. But they have to be accessed very carefully so that during the retrieval of this information, you don't accidentally erase it all.

SANCHEZ: Aren't you only as good as the police officer who is investigating the crime scene and is the first one to get there? For example, he needs to get the phone or ask to see the phone to get it to you, right? NORRIS: Right. One of the big issues right now is training of the first responders to understand all the new technology so that they can isolate it and allow the specialist to come in and work with it.

SANCHEZ: How important and how far have we gone in the extraction and use of DNA? We'll talk about a couple of different variations of that, for example, in cold cases. But let's just -- in general, how far are you using now DNA to cut -- to solve some of these crimes?

NORRIS: Well, DNA is now become basically ubiquitous. Juries almost always expect for almost every case that there will be DNA evidence. The nice thing is now the population statistics of DNA is such that we can almost always say it's that person and really no other.

SANCHEZ: Yes, but we saw in the O.J. Simpson case where they were able to tell a jury, don't believe this DNA stuff. There -- the possibilities are still there for it to have been somebody else. Is that realistic or have we really nailed it down to the point now where you can get juries to be convinced that this stuff is foolproof?

NORRIS: Well, in the ten years since that case, there's really been a lot of work done and now the statistics are such that it's, you know, one in a trillion. One in 20 trillion. So really it's pretty much nailed down. We don't see a lot of attacks on DNA analysis itself. They can still attack how the actual case was worked, but DNA has pretty much been accepted by both the prosecution and defense communities.

SANCHEZ: Jim Norris, thanks so much, Sheriff, for taking time to talk to us today and clearing up some of these matters for us. And we should mention, by the way, that you were in a conference but now you're back in San Francisco, correct?

NORRIS: Right, I'm actually right in San Francisco as we speak

SANCHEZ: All right. We appreciate it. Thanks for being with us.

NORRIS: Thank you.

KAGAN: And we have much more ahead. We're going to take a break. We're back after this.

(COMMERCIAL BREAK)

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KAGAN: And last I checked, that was going to do it for us.

SANCHEZ: Which means...

KAGAN: Wolf Blitzer will be up.

SANCHEZ: Standing by. KAGAN: A little break, though. He'll see you at the top of the hour. I'm Daryn Kagan.

SANCHEZ: I'm Rick Sanchez. Thanks so much for being with us. We'll find you right here again tomorrow, same time. CNN.

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Aired February 22, 2005 - 11:32   ET
THIS IS A RUSH TRANSCRIPT. THIS COPY MAY NOT BE IN ITS FINAL FORM AND MAY BE UPDATED.
RICK SANCHEZ, CNN ANCHOR: Let's catch you up on the news and do so by bringing you the very latest story we've been following. Texas police have arrested this man, Stephen Barbee. They've charged him with capital murder in the case of the missing Fort Worth woman. Still no sign of Lisa Underwood or her 7-year-old son, seen her in this picture. She was reported missing Saturday when she failed to show up at her baby shower. Police do say they believe the two are deceased. That's all they have up until now.
Her car, as you can see, nose down in a creek. This is tape we got just literally seconds ago of an area in Denton, Texas, not far from where you saw that car that was found. This is the beginning of a search on horseback for any signs of the two bodies. Again, police have said, or confirmed, the two are deceased.

These are live pictures we're looking at now of the same search area, or search effort that's going on under there in -- on horseback. Wow.

Let's move on to the next story. Rescuers are trying to reach earthquake survivors in central Iran. The death toll from the 6.4 quake is quickly approaching 300. Dozens of small villages were hit. At least seven were destroyed. Heavy rain is making the rescue effort very difficult, we're told.

The first lady is in Germany today. She is meeting with soldiers and their family to thank them for their contributions in Iraq and Afghanistan. Laura Bush also visited about 20 wounded soldiers at Landstuhl regional hospital.

And Terri Schiavo's feeding tube could be removed this afternoon, leading her to die within two weeks. The severely brain damaged woman's parents are seeking an emergency stay to somehow keep her on life support. But their legal options are really running out. Schiavo's husband wants her life ended.

And in Alexandria, Virginia, a Saudi American man is charged with conspiring to assassinate President Bush. Twenty-three-year-old Ahmed Omar Abu Ali (ph) is a U.S. citizen and a former high school valedictorian. The indictment says that Ali, a U.S. citizen and an unidentified coconspirator discussed plans to kill the president, either by shooting him or by trying to detonate a bomb.

KAGAN: Southern California is getting hit hard again today with rain. Several more inches may fall before the weather clears tomorrow. But the saturated ground is already giving way. Sinkholes are opening up and roads, and slabs of mud are crashing into homes. At least six deaths are blamed on the latest round of storms. Already it's the fourth wettest season on record for Los Angeles. And it already has well over 30 inches of rain since July 1st.

James Hahn is the mayor of Los Angeles, and joins me live now from our bureau.

Mr. Mayor, good morning.

MYR. JAMES HAHN, LOS ANGELES: Good morning.

KAGAN: Good to have you out dry, or inside dry, out of the rain. As a native Angelino, just how bad is all of this rain?

HAHN: It's very bad, because so much of it has happened in such a short time. The numbers that you just talked about really doesn't tell the whole story, because that's usually over a whole rainy season. Most of this rain has fall in just a little over four or five weeks, and the ground just can't handle it, and this ground has been saturated to the point where any additional rainfall causes the slides you are seeing.

You know, I'm here at the Hollywood studio a few blocks away from the Hollywood Freeway, which last night could have been called the Hollywood river, had four feet of water in it.

KAGAN: You actually had to pump the water to keep the freeway open.

HAHN: Absolutely. So it's much rain in such a short amount of time, and it's not concentrated in one area. We have problems all over the city of Los Angeles. Just this morning, the Highland Park area...

KAGAN: And we're actually looking at live pictures right now of that situation in Highland Park, Mr. Mayor.

HAHN: Yes, four homes have been red-tagged right there.

KAGAN: So you have declared a state of emergency. As a mayor, how powerful is that? And what will that do for the citizens of Los Angeles?

HAHN: What happens when you declare a state of emergency, and you get the governor, Governor Schwarzenegger, concurs, then we can forward our request to the federal government, and then that's the real benefit of that. When President Bush declared our Los Angeles County a disaster area, then we get help from FEMA, we get help from the small business agency to help with loans and grants for people, because most of this slide damage, as you know, is not covered by homeowners insurance.

KAGAN: Right, it's really a request for help, though, from other government agencies.

HAHN: Absolutely. KAGAN: Got it. Let's talk politics here for a minute. Political reality, Mr. Mayor. Two weeks from today, the citizens of Los Angeles go to the polls. You are locked in a very difficult, as I understand it, political battle looking for re-election. How bad timing are these storms, and how much would you say your next term could be on the line because of the weather and how you handle it?

HAHN: You know, I think the best way to win re-election is to do your job. And unfortunately for me, I'm in the middle of this election battle, but I have to do my job first as mayor, and so I'm out all over the city, going to places where -- we're coordinating work, the different city crews, department of water and power, public works, all the different city department, the fire department, and that's just what I have to do. That's what I get paid to do as mayor, and so that's what I'm concentrating on. I'm very proud of the city crews who are out there.

Unfortunately, one of our city employees lost his life the other night, Rory, Shaw (ph), a civil engineer who was helping to repair that big sinkhole that you saw out in Sun Valley, and so today, we're asking all the flags of city buildings to be flown at half staff in his memory. I just talked to him a few hours before he died at that location. It's a -- that's what I've got to be doing as mayor. And I'm very proud of the city crews who are out there, working around the clock, doing the best they can to hold up the city in the onslaught of this rainstorm Mother Nature is deluging us with.

KAGAN: The report saying that that civil engineer one of your most dedicated employee.

You grew up -- I know from growing up in Los Angeles myself, you grew up in Los Angeles political family. You must be very aware of what can happen here. I'm looking back to Chicago, 1979, that mayor's race, when a snowstorm completely changed the focus of how that race turned out.

HAHN: Yes, I remember that, too. That you can't the snow off the streets, that cost a mayor re-election.

My job is to do everything we can to coordinate our crews. We've got people working around the clock. We're dipping into all of our accounts to may the overtime of employees.

We know this is a big headache for people who live in this city. People are trying to move around the city, get to and from work and from school. And a lot of people have these beautiful homes, unfortunately, in our hilly areas. They have spectacular view of this great city. But when it rains, they are really in danger. So we're going to do the best we can. We can't save every home. Mother Nature has got a lot more tools in her toolbox than we do.

KAGAN: Well, we wish you well. Seems strange to wish Angelino dry skies, and yet that's what I'm sending your way.

HAHN: Well, thank you very much. Appreciate that. We could use it. KAGAN: Mayor James Hahn from Los Angeles, thank you, Mr Mayor.

HAHN: Thank you.

SANCHEZ: It sounds like he could use all the help he can.

KAGAN: Yes.

SANCHEZ: Well, the "New You Revolution" enters week six. And Thekla will learn how her legal skills will help her prepare for having a family. It's actually something every expectant mother should know.

We'll be back.

(COMMERCIAL BREAK)

SANCHEZ: Welcome back to CNN LIVE TODAY. I'm Rick Sanchez with Daryn Kagan.

Hard to believe, but we're already in the sixth week of our "New You Revolution," where we're helping five people try to break bad habits and start new ones, or healthy ones.

KAGAN: Yes, our medical correspondent Dr. Sanjay Gupta has the latest update on their progress.

(BEGIN VIDEOTAPE)

DR. SANJAY GUPTA, CNN MEDICAL CORRESPONDENT (on camera): All five participants continue to make progress, especially Thekla Fischer. Her challenge to us was to get her physically and mentally fit before she got pregnant.

(voice-over): To give Thekla a taste of coping with motherhood, we dropped her in a sea of children. She met with working moms, their babies and "Baby Talk" magazine editor Susan Kane at this very large play group.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Thekla is thinking about having a baby.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Have one.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: So we're kind of getting her ready.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Have one.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: I'm sure you will be nervous, but you'll come to realize that they're not an egg.

GUPTA: Overcoming this fear is only part of getting Thekla prepared for being a mom. Taking prenatal vitamins is, too, which she's finally doing.

SUSAN KANE, "BABY TALK" MAGAZINE: UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: You have to find a network of mom friends, so the support is absolutely crucial.

GUPTA: As an attorney, Thekla's legal skills can also play into baby matters, like ensuring enough maternity leave.

KANE: You don't want to be guilt-tripped into a shorter leave than you're legally allowed.

GUPTA: And Thekla admitted she needed help with something else: getting organized.

THEKLA FISCHER, "NEW YOU" PARTICIPANT: This is my idea of organization. This is bad. This is really bad.

GUPTA: So, we introduced her to Julie Morganstern, organizational expert and author of "Making Work Work."

JULIE MORGANSTERN, AUTHOR, "MAKING WORK WORK": So you just start your day in control.

GUPTA: Her tips for Thekla? Spend the first hour not answering the phone and e-mails. Instead, focus on one project. Use post-its to keep track of progress. And use a calendar.

MORGANSTERN: Once you have a baby, you can't hold all this stuff in your memory.

GUPTA (on camera): The other participants also appear to be getting closer to goals that motivated them to join the "New You Revolution in the first place. Here's their weekly update.

GUPTA (voice over): On the first day of our "New You Revolution," I asked Sandra why she wanted to break her bad habits.

SANDRA GARTH, "NEW YOU" PARTICIPANT: Eight weeks from now, I'm going to be at least 15 pounds down from where I am now.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: You've lost 15 pounds total, that's fantastic.

GARTH: Wow!

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: That's great.

GUPTA: She's almost there now, and she still has two weeks to go.

Harald has shed 20 pounds since starting his "New You Revolution." He's shooting baskets instead of eating baskets of fries. And he's learned a good habit: patience.

HARALD FRICKER, "NEW YOU" PARTICIPANT: In the past, I have lost 40 pounds in 40 days. Obviously, I've not only lost it and regained it, but then the proverbial "and then some."

GUPTA: Now he can live with the slower results, because he hopes the weight will stay off forever. LEIGH ANN RAYNOR, "NEW YOU" PARTICIPANT: It doesn't come off as fast as I put it on, does it?

GUPTA: Leigh Ann continues to do cardio, but had to stop one session because her heart rate was getting too high. But she's fine and is back to exercising the next day.

RAYNOR: And I think, you know, total I've lost like four or five inches.

GUPTA: She's following doctors' orders. The result? She's dropping about a pound a week.

For Jonathan's goal to stop biting his nails, he's been facing a new reality.

JONATHAN KARP, "NEW YOU" PARTICIPANT: When I was at the movies on Sunday, I was able to open up a box of candy for the first time, the plastic seal around the candy.

GUPTA: He's still using a nail file to keep the edges smooth, but sometimes he even goes too far.

KARP: I've got another two weeks before I think they'll be in perfect shape.

GUPTA: Dr. Sanjay Gutpa, CNN, for "The New You Revolution."

(END VIDEOTAPE)

KAGAN: Next week, we'll see if the "New You Revolution" has made a real impact on our participants. And you can follow the progress of all of our new you participants and e-mail them by logging on to CNN.com/newyou.

SANCHEZ: I wonder how the nail-biter is doing.

KAGAN: Filet mignon. I'll never forget that line. He saw a little bit of white on his nails. He called it filet mignon.

SANCHEZ: The little white part just makes me crazy.

Well, they deal with the details of the oh worst crimes in the cities. You've seen some of them on the "CSI" TV shows. What's it like to be a real crime scene unit, director, person.

KAGAN: We'll find out, coming up.

(COMMERCIAL BREAK)

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP FROM "CSI")

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: How many people have walked through the crime scene?

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Just the responding officers. Lug (ph) sole sizes 10 and 11.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: We're going to need some time here, Jim.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Yes, well, there's no rush now.

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SANCHEZ: Boy, these types of shows are really popular lately, huh? The chalk outline on the sidewalks. Some obscure detail in search after cold blooded killer. The stuff of CBS's wildly popular show "CSI," like that scene you saw there just moments ago. It's really just art imitating real life, though.

My next guest is very familiar with the real crime scene investigation. There he is. That's Jim Norris. He's the former head of forensics for the San Francisco Police Department. He's in New Orleans, where they're having a conference. He's talking about searching for criminals and the new ways that they do so, like the BTK killer, for example, in Kansas.

And let's start there with the conversation, if we could, Mr. Norris. The fact that in the show, crimes are solved in what, an hour, 45 minutes of TV time? BTK killer's been going on since 1974. Big difference.

JIM NORRIS, FORMERLY OF SAN FRANCISCO POLICE: Well, yes. In reality, of course, it takes a long time to solve these crimes. But, of course, a television show has to wrap up in an hour and we usually take, you know, five or six years.

SANCHEZ: The technology these days is very different. This is my cell phone. If I would just committed a crime, I would imagine that you or others like you would ask, I want to see Rick Sanchez's cell phone. I want to find out who he called, for example. I want to go on his computer. I want to see who he's e-mailed. That's a big part of what you do today that you didn't do decades ago, right?

NORRIS: Oh, yes. Actually, cell phone forensics has now become a really big area because almost everybody carries a cell phone and you have videos, images, e-mails, numbers that you last called, things like that are all stored there and can be retrieved. But sometimes it's not as easy as you might think.

SANCHEZ: What do you mean? Why not?

NORRIS: Well, people will erase this material, but actually it's still stored on a little chip inside the phone. So it's kind of like a computer now. The cell phones are really little computers. But they have to be accessed very carefully so that during the retrieval of this information, you don't accidentally erase it all.

SANCHEZ: Aren't you only as good as the police officer who is investigating the crime scene and is the first one to get there? For example, he needs to get the phone or ask to see the phone to get it to you, right? NORRIS: Right. One of the big issues right now is training of the first responders to understand all the new technology so that they can isolate it and allow the specialist to come in and work with it.

SANCHEZ: How important and how far have we gone in the extraction and use of DNA? We'll talk about a couple of different variations of that, for example, in cold cases. But let's just -- in general, how far are you using now DNA to cut -- to solve some of these crimes?

NORRIS: Well, DNA is now become basically ubiquitous. Juries almost always expect for almost every case that there will be DNA evidence. The nice thing is now the population statistics of DNA is such that we can almost always say it's that person and really no other.

SANCHEZ: Yes, but we saw in the O.J. Simpson case where they were able to tell a jury, don't believe this DNA stuff. There -- the possibilities are still there for it to have been somebody else. Is that realistic or have we really nailed it down to the point now where you can get juries to be convinced that this stuff is foolproof?

NORRIS: Well, in the ten years since that case, there's really been a lot of work done and now the statistics are such that it's, you know, one in a trillion. One in 20 trillion. So really it's pretty much nailed down. We don't see a lot of attacks on DNA analysis itself. They can still attack how the actual case was worked, but DNA has pretty much been accepted by both the prosecution and defense communities.

SANCHEZ: Jim Norris, thanks so much, Sheriff, for taking time to talk to us today and clearing up some of these matters for us. And we should mention, by the way, that you were in a conference but now you're back in San Francisco, correct?

NORRIS: Right, I'm actually right in San Francisco as we speak

SANCHEZ: All right. We appreciate it. Thanks for being with us.

NORRIS: Thank you.

KAGAN: And we have much more ahead. We're going to take a break. We're back after this.

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KAGAN: And last I checked, that was going to do it for us.

SANCHEZ: Which means...

KAGAN: Wolf Blitzer will be up.

SANCHEZ: Standing by. KAGAN: A little break, though. He'll see you at the top of the hour. I'm Daryn Kagan.

SANCHEZ: I'm Rick Sanchez. Thanks so much for being with us. We'll find you right here again tomorrow, same time. CNN.

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