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Concerns Over Pope's Health; Earthquake Hits Indonesia

Aired March 28, 2005 - 11:30   ET

THIS IS A RUSH TRANSCRIPT. THIS COPY MAY NOT BE IN ITS FINAL FORM AND MAY BE UPDATED.

THIS IS A RUSH TRANSCRIPT. THIS COPY MAY NOT BE IN ITS FINAL FORM AND MAY BE UPDATED.


DARYN KAGAN, CNN ANCHOR: Things got back to normal at the Cincinnati-Northern Kentucky airport today after part of the airport was closed Sunday because of a gun scare. Officials say baggage screeners saw what looked like a gun while X-raying a carry-on bag. After an hours-long search, no gun was found.
More funerals today for victims of last week's school shooting on the Red Lake Indian Reservation in Minnesota. A service for 62-year- old Neva Rogers is expected to begin in about a half hour. She was the only teacher killed among the 10 that were killed. The alleged gunman, 16-year-old Jeff Weise, will also be laid to rest today.

And after weekend of March Madness, four college basketball teams will meet in St. Louis. North Carolina defeating Wisconsin 88-82, for its ticket to the final four. The Tarheels will play Michigan State, which beat Kentucky in double overtime last night.

Also in the Final Four, Louisville and Illinois.

RICK SANCHEZ, CNN ANCHOR: There are some more concerns this morning about the health of Pope John Paul II today. He missed another special Easter celebration. He did appear at Easter mass on Sunday and he delivered a silent message that spoke volumes to the faithful.

More now from CNN's Alessio Vinci. He's is in Rome.

ALESSIO VINCI, CNN CORRESPONDENT: In the long series of events which Pope John Paul II has missed throughout this past few days, we can add one last one. This morning, for the first time in his long papacy, Pope John Paul II has missed his traditional angelus prayer on the Monday following Easter.

Cameras from Vatican Television at some point pointed towards the window of the pope overlooking St. Peter's Square as if he was about to make an appearance. But after a few minutes, it turned away, and a few thousand pilgrims who were down in the square hoping to see the pope were left with basically nothing.

And indeed throughout this past Holy Week, the events at The Vatican have been marked by the pope's absence or by his silent presence. He missed most of the events throughout the week, including all the masses. And on Easter Sunday, the pope, unable to say mass. He is first and foremost a priest, and it must have been a terrible burden for the pope not to be able to say that mass on Easter Sunday. It was delivered by a top Vatican cardinal. The pope at one point tried to say a few words. He made an appearance, a long appearance, at a window overlooking St. Peter's Square at some point trying to say a few words, but he just simply couldn't. A microphone was there, ready for him to say something, but all we could hear was just a simple murmur. And so eventually the pope opted for a silent blessing with his hand.

Nevertheless, the crowds, by the tens of thousands yesterday in St. Peter's Square, were ecstatic, some people even in tears. So clearly, this pope still unable to talk, but able to message and to send a very powerful message of suffering.

I'm Alessio Vinci, CNN, reporting from Rome.

KAGAN: The health of another well-known figure tops our look at news from overseas. In Monaco, a palace spokesman tells CNN that Prince Ranier is conscious and that his condition has stabilized. But doctors say the prince's health is still worrying. The 81-year-old prince is heavily medicate and on a respirator. Ranier went into the hospital earlier this month for treatment of a lung infection.

Lebanon's president vows to fight violence in his country after a bombing just before Easter destroyed many buildings in a mostly Christian section of Beirut. Several people were hurt. It's the third bombing in Lebanon in the past eight days. Lebanese officials say more Syrian troops continue to leave Lebanon. Two-thousand are said to have left over the weekend, lowering Syria's military presence in the country to 8, 000 soldiers.

And U.N. investigators are studying this videotape -- watch carefully -- said to show the final moments before the February 14th explosion that killed former Lebanese Prime Minister Rafik Hariri. An Arab satellite channel aired the video on Sunday. It was taken by a bank security camera. And it appears to show Hariri's convoy on the move in downtown Beirut. Hariri and 19 others were killed in the blast.

SANCHEZ: Time now for our "Daily Dose" of health news. Genetics and the fight against cancer. Some federal researchers, they want to compile a catalog of the genetic abnormalities that are found in cancer tumors. That's according to a report in The "New York Times." Reporters say it could lead to new ways of diagnosing, treating and preventing cancer. But some scientists are a little concerned that it would take money away from smaller research projects they are concerned about.

Also a new compound may provide relief to millions of Americans who suffer from cat allergies. Researchers say the chemical compound is part cat and part human. When tested in mice, it virtually shut down the reaction that causes cat allergy symptoms, like running eyes and sneezing. Funny they would test that on mice. Also, scientists say the compound also worked in human cells grown in the lab.

For your "Daily Dose" of health news online, all you've got to do is log onto our Web site, and you'll fine the latest medical stories, special reports and health library. The address is CNN.com/health. KAGAN: Do you think that was an allergic reaction that the mice were having or a panic attack?

SANCHEZ: Just a little afraid, that's all.

KAGAN: They got more problems than itchy eyes if they see a cat.

We're talking poker. It's a hot trend out there. We're going to talk with some poker experts about why the old game has become such a phenomenon. Also they might have some advice for you novices out there.

SANCHEZ: And the good, the bad and the just plain ugly about traveling in coach. They've got some tips and some tricks that can make your air experience just a little bit more pleasant.

(COMMERCIAL BREAK)

SANCHEZ: So, you want to perfect that poker face, or just be better at bluffing? If you're a poker fan, you might want to listen up to this segment that we bring you now. Mike Sexton and Vince Van Patten are a pair of real pros when it comes to this. We're going to give you some real poker tips. They're taking part in the World Poker Tour. And they're joining us this morning from Los Angeles.

It's great to have you, guys -- again, I should say, right? I appreciate it. All right, let's -- Mike, let's start with you. Why this poker craze that seems to be, really, a recent phenomenon, doesn't it?

MIKE SEXTON, WORLD POKER TOUR ANNOUNCER: Well, really since the World Poker tour started airing a couple years ago, the growth in popularity of poke has just exploded across the country. And frankly, it's because it's reality TV at its finest. It's real people that have put up real money that are really playing for millions of dollars every week. And certainly because of that, Wednesday night is now poker night across America. You know, 9:00 on the Travel Channel, the World Poker Tour comes on. Very exciting. Very popular.

SANCHEZ: Did you ever -- who would've thought that a bunch of guys sitting around playing poker would make people like me -- I'm not a poker player. But I've got to tell you, once in a while, when I'm flipping the channel, I sit there and watch to see who's going to win. Why's it so engaging, Vince?

VINCE VAN PATTEN, WORLD POKER TOUR ANNOUNCER: Well, you know, I think it's just a brilliant game. The element of the bluff, where you don't have to have the best hand, and you can still win is so seductive. I mean, where else, what other game can you do that. And on the World Poker Tour, you know, you get to see that. And you're seeing average-day people, you know, who just don't want a 9-to-5 job go after millions of dollars bluffing their way to championships.

SANCHEZ: Before we get too much into the bluff, tell us if we're interested in, like, playing poker, where do we get started, other than sitting there watching it on TV? Say, you know what? I like this. I want to start playing poker. Do I just call a friend and have him come over, or should I go somewhere?

VAN PATTEN: Well, I mean, there's many different places to play. You can play in the casinos. Of course, there's home games. I represent Hollywood Poker Online, and Mike does Party Poker, so people are playing online. So there's just tremendous different ways of playing poker. But get started. You know, play what you can afford. Don't overdo it, and just have fun.

SANCHEZ: All right, I'm going to ask you, Vince, stay with us, because I'm going to ask you for the very best tip you can give people on playing poker, and especially in terms of psyching out your opponent.

VAN PATTEN: Well, first of all, when you sit down, be selective. It's the only gambling game in the world where you don't have to play your cards. So be selective. Be patient. And watch the table. Have a good peripheral. Okay? Play tight and play solid. But when you finally get that hand, get very aggressive.

SANCHEZ: You have a real passion for this. Let's go over to Mike. Mike, same question. What would be your best tip for poker?

SEXTON: Well, the biggest mistake amateurs or novice players make is that they play too many hands and they call their money off too much. Just remember this about poker.

SANCHEZ: Wait a minute. Call their money off. I'm not quite sure what that means.

SEXTON: Yes, okay, what that means is when their opponents bet, they're calling. They're trying to just put their money in to catch that lucky card where they might win the pot. Just remember this in poker: Bettors are winners; callers are losers. Basically the guy initiating the action, the guy doing the betting, has the advantage over the guy that's doing the calling.

SANCHEZ: Good stuff. Vince Van Patten, Mike Sexton, World Poker Tour. We thank you both. Appreciate it.

VAN PATTEN: Well, thank you. Travel Channel, 9:00. Keep watching.

SANCHEZ: I'll be looking for it. Daryn, over to you.

KAGAN: We're talking now wireless. Just a few years ago, most of us could only dream about surfing the Internet or trolling e-mail without being tethered to a telephone line. The wonderful world of wireless is now here. But there are some pitfalls. We get details from the dotcom desk and CNN's Veronica De La Cruz.

(START VIDEOTAPE)

VERONICA DE LA CRUZ, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Imagine a life lived wirelessly. You can pop open your laptop, and you're instantly connected any time, anywhere. At cnn.com/wireless, an in-depth look at this online technology. How do you know if your Wi-Fi's WEP is turned on? What are the differences between bluejacking and bluesnarfing? If all this tech jargon has left your head spinning, click on Wireless Glossary for a full explanation. For example, still aren't sure what Wi-Fi actually means? Well, it's short for Wireless Fidelity. And if you're accessing the Internet wirelessly on your computer or PDA right now, chances are you're using a flavor of it.

When you go wireless, it's a whole new ballgame for security because your Internet connection is broadcast outside your home. So if you don't secure it, it's like leaving your front door open for intruders. Learn how to protect yourself by changing your SSID, enabling WEP, or turning off your DHCP. You can also check out what equipment you need for a wireless network as well as the latest wireless products from hand-helds to phones, to networking. From the dotcom news desk in Atlanta, I'm Veronica De La Cruz.

(END VIDEOTAPE.)

KAGAN: And we have breaking news into us here at CNN about an earthquake that has hit northern Sumatra, Indonesia. Magnitude 8.2. That's from the U.S. Geological Survey. And as big as that number is, the USGS telling us it's actually an aftershock from the original earthquake that caused the tsunami back in December. Of course, Indonesia one of the hardest hit countries in the tsunami disaster. We're going to get more information on that as it becomes available.

SANCHEZ: And I guess as you look at the map, northern Sumatra that's the very first place -- that's the same place where the original earthquake hit. So it's right in that area. Right. I guess that's why they call it an aftershock.

KAGAN: That's why they do that.

SANCHEZ: Does it travel though? Well here's another story we're going to bring you in just a minute. Get on a plane to try and start a great vacation. But will the flight tire you out even before you land? Up next, some tips on how to survive a plane trip coach-style. Stay with us.

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SANCHEZ: Once again, there is important information that we need to pass along to you regarding an earthquake that has struck the very same area that had caused the tsunami that we'd reported. It's an earthquake measuring 8.2, and its apparently has struck right off the coast of Indonesia Monday. And you can see the very same line there.

It does look eerily familiar because it's on the same fault line that originated on the December 26th earthquake that launched a deadly tsunami. The question now is, will this also cause another tsunami, and it hasn't been answered yet. Charles McCreary is on record saying that he cannot be absolutely certain that this quake could or could not possibly cause that.

Let's go now to Julie Martinez. She's with the USGS, the U.S. Geological Survey team, who's following this now. Julie, what can you share with us about this particular earthquake and its possible effects?

JULIE MARTINEZ, U.S. GEOLOGICAL SURVEY: Right now we just have a great earthquake, an aftershock of the previous earthquake on the 26th. It's a magnitude -- preliminary magnitude 8.2. There is a potential for some wave activity, however at this time, we don't have any information.

SANCHEZ: Is there any way for you to be able to tell whether this earthquake has caused a tsunami? And if not now, when?

MARTINEZ: We are -- actually it's in the process. That information we don't have right now. As far as we are concerned, we have a magnitude 8.2 at earthquake center, so that's the information that we have at this point.

SANCHEZ: So, for the people in that area, you're looking at in the map there around Banda Aceh in Sumatra, how are they going to be able to be advised? If they happen to be listening to this broadcast, for example, what should they do?

MARTINEZ: Definitely, they should be aware. I'm sure that the local governments are trying to get the information out that they need to. As far as I can say right now though, we don't have any information.

SANCHEZ: Tell us what's going on right now there at the USGA to try and gather that information.

MARTINEZ: Well, we just have got the magnitude out. It's pretty hectic. The phones are ringing off the hook. And we're trying to get in contact with other people to figure out what effects are going to be potentially occurring.

SANCHEZ: Are phone calls being made to that region there around Banda Aceh in Indonesia?

MARTINEZ: We are calling the lists that we have, as far as the people that need to be notified for this earthquake.

SANCHEZ: And I imagine that would be the people in that area. We're looking at a map now of that part of Indonesia around Sumatra. Do you know if anyone's been able to make contact with any officials there at this point?

MARTINEZ: We have -- we do not -- we called the people that we are in charge of calling, but we did not call -- we don't have that information, as far as the local governments. We are calling the necessary people that we have on our lists.

SANCHEZ: Can you try and put this in perspective for us? We understand at this point it's an 8.2 measurement on this earthquake/aftershock?

MARTINEZ: Yes.

SANCHEZ: How severe is that? MARTINEZ: Well, it's a great earthquake. It's the largest in our classification. Right now I don't have the information in regards to -- relative to other earthquakes, but it is a very significant quake and it's not as large as the main shock, but it is a great earthquake.

SANCHEZ: Let me ask you one more thing before we let you go. Do you have any sense of timing -- after an earthquake like this, how long it would take, if indeed, does create any severe weather or wave pattern, how long it would take to affect the people there in Sumatra who I figure, about 50, 60 miles away?

MARTINEZ: Yes. It -- probably within the hour, but depending upon where you are along the coast, I mean, it totally changes based on your location along Sumatra. has a long coastline, so it's just relative based on how far away you are.

SANCHEZ: Well, Julie, we know, we can sense in your voice, that certainly, there's a lot going on there. You guys are extremely busy. We thank you for taking time to give us this information that we're going to now be passing along to as many people as we possibly can, who could possibly be in harm's way. Daryn, over to you.

KAGAN: All right. We'll going to bring you the latest as we get that information out of Indonesia. Once again, a major earthquake that they are calling an aftershock, 8.2 magnitude, off the coast of Indonesia near Sumatra. Much more information coming ahead on that. Right now, a break. We're back after this.

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KAGAN: Before we get to our business report, I want to go back to our breaking news. And that is coming out of Sumatra, Indonesia, what they are calling a great earthquake, the highest classification. Magnitude 8.2. On the same fault line as the earthquake back in December that caused the deadly tsunami. They're saying that this one hit within the last hour along that same fault line.

We have with us on the phone right now Mike Chinoy, our correspondent. He usually is based in that area and was in Banda Aceh for quite a long time after the last tsunami. Mike, if you can put into perspective where this latest earthquake hit.

MIKE CHINOY, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Well, by all accounts, it appears to have been very close to where the initial quake on December 26th struck. In fact, seismologists had warned in a study that was published in the last couple of weeks that the crust of the earth there was still quite unstable after the last quake and they were predicting that there was a real possibility of another very significant quake.

Needless to say, for the people living there, the quake would have been, on this magnitude, would have been very, very frightening. When I was there, we had numerous aftershocks, some of them registering 6 or above on the Richter scale. But eight or 8.2 is really very high. And obviously, the immediate concern that many people would have is whether or not this, as was the case last time, would trigger another tsunami. That, of course, would add a great deal more danger and anxiety at this point. We don't know.

But the other concern is, of course, that many of the buildings that were still standing after the last quake and tsunami would still be in quite weakened condition, and therefore, much more vulnerable to suffering damage from a quake of this magnitude.

KAGAN: Mike, so far all we know is about this earthquake of 8.2 magnitude. We have no word of any tsunami resulting from it. And yet the last time around, on December 26th, the big problem, in addition to the tsunami, was the lack of warning system. I would imagine there is no new system that's been put in place since then.

CHINOY: No, that's correct. There's been a lot of talk by governments in the region and beyond about the need for some kind of tsunami warning system. Most governments acknowledge that that's important. But there is no progress that's been made on that score so far.

In fact, the focus in Sumatra, in this northern part of Indonesia, has really been just on recovering from the immediate aftermaths of the previous quake and tsunami, trying to help people begin to rebuild their lives. A warning system is a complicated process. It involves coordination by governments of a lot of different nations putting electronic sensors into place in the ocean.

So there would not be any system -- the only thing I would say though is that for the people that survived the last one, the instinct on a quake of this magnitude would probably be to get away from the sea coast as quickly as possible, because people certainly would remember what happened last time.

KAGAN: All right. Mike Chinoy joining us on the phone from Massachusetts. He was in Banda Aceh in the follow-up of the tsunami disaster in December and January.

SANCHEZ: Let's go to Jacqui Jeras. She's following the weather, as well as some reaction to what's going on with this really natural phenomenon that's taking place off of Sumatra. Jacqui, over to you.

JACQUI JERAS, CNN METEOROLOGIST: Well, I've just been surfing the net, trying to find some more information on this. And I found a statement from the Pacific Tsunami Warning Center. That's a division of NOA and the National Weather Service. And it says that this earthquake does have the potential to generate a widely destructive tsunami in the ocean or seas near that earthquake.

It's asking authorities in that area that they should be taking immediate action, which should include evacuation of the coast within a thousand kilometers of the epicenter and close monitoring of this to determine if further evacuation is needed. So this coming in from the Pacific Tsunami Center, a division of NOA, saying that it could possibly generate a tsunami -- Rick and Daryn.

KAGAN: We'll be keeping our eyes on at. Jacqui, thank you. TO ORDER A VIDEO OF THIS TRANSCRIPT, PLEASE CALL 800-CNN-NEWS OR USE OUR SECURE ONLINE ORDER FORM LOCATED AT www.fdch.com


Aired March 28, 2005 - 11:30   ET
THIS IS A RUSH TRANSCRIPT. THIS COPY MAY NOT BE IN ITS FINAL FORM AND MAY BE UPDATED.
DARYN KAGAN, CNN ANCHOR: Things got back to normal at the Cincinnati-Northern Kentucky airport today after part of the airport was closed Sunday because of a gun scare. Officials say baggage screeners saw what looked like a gun while X-raying a carry-on bag. After an hours-long search, no gun was found.
More funerals today for victims of last week's school shooting on the Red Lake Indian Reservation in Minnesota. A service for 62-year- old Neva Rogers is expected to begin in about a half hour. She was the only teacher killed among the 10 that were killed. The alleged gunman, 16-year-old Jeff Weise, will also be laid to rest today.

And after weekend of March Madness, four college basketball teams will meet in St. Louis. North Carolina defeating Wisconsin 88-82, for its ticket to the final four. The Tarheels will play Michigan State, which beat Kentucky in double overtime last night.

Also in the Final Four, Louisville and Illinois.

RICK SANCHEZ, CNN ANCHOR: There are some more concerns this morning about the health of Pope John Paul II today. He missed another special Easter celebration. He did appear at Easter mass on Sunday and he delivered a silent message that spoke volumes to the faithful.

More now from CNN's Alessio Vinci. He's is in Rome.

ALESSIO VINCI, CNN CORRESPONDENT: In the long series of events which Pope John Paul II has missed throughout this past few days, we can add one last one. This morning, for the first time in his long papacy, Pope John Paul II has missed his traditional angelus prayer on the Monday following Easter.

Cameras from Vatican Television at some point pointed towards the window of the pope overlooking St. Peter's Square as if he was about to make an appearance. But after a few minutes, it turned away, and a few thousand pilgrims who were down in the square hoping to see the pope were left with basically nothing.

And indeed throughout this past Holy Week, the events at The Vatican have been marked by the pope's absence or by his silent presence. He missed most of the events throughout the week, including all the masses. And on Easter Sunday, the pope, unable to say mass. He is first and foremost a priest, and it must have been a terrible burden for the pope not to be able to say that mass on Easter Sunday. It was delivered by a top Vatican cardinal. The pope at one point tried to say a few words. He made an appearance, a long appearance, at a window overlooking St. Peter's Square at some point trying to say a few words, but he just simply couldn't. A microphone was there, ready for him to say something, but all we could hear was just a simple murmur. And so eventually the pope opted for a silent blessing with his hand.

Nevertheless, the crowds, by the tens of thousands yesterday in St. Peter's Square, were ecstatic, some people even in tears. So clearly, this pope still unable to talk, but able to message and to send a very powerful message of suffering.

I'm Alessio Vinci, CNN, reporting from Rome.

KAGAN: The health of another well-known figure tops our look at news from overseas. In Monaco, a palace spokesman tells CNN that Prince Ranier is conscious and that his condition has stabilized. But doctors say the prince's health is still worrying. The 81-year-old prince is heavily medicate and on a respirator. Ranier went into the hospital earlier this month for treatment of a lung infection.

Lebanon's president vows to fight violence in his country after a bombing just before Easter destroyed many buildings in a mostly Christian section of Beirut. Several people were hurt. It's the third bombing in Lebanon in the past eight days. Lebanese officials say more Syrian troops continue to leave Lebanon. Two-thousand are said to have left over the weekend, lowering Syria's military presence in the country to 8, 000 soldiers.

And U.N. investigators are studying this videotape -- watch carefully -- said to show the final moments before the February 14th explosion that killed former Lebanese Prime Minister Rafik Hariri. An Arab satellite channel aired the video on Sunday. It was taken by a bank security camera. And it appears to show Hariri's convoy on the move in downtown Beirut. Hariri and 19 others were killed in the blast.

SANCHEZ: Time now for our "Daily Dose" of health news. Genetics and the fight against cancer. Some federal researchers, they want to compile a catalog of the genetic abnormalities that are found in cancer tumors. That's according to a report in The "New York Times." Reporters say it could lead to new ways of diagnosing, treating and preventing cancer. But some scientists are a little concerned that it would take money away from smaller research projects they are concerned about.

Also a new compound may provide relief to millions of Americans who suffer from cat allergies. Researchers say the chemical compound is part cat and part human. When tested in mice, it virtually shut down the reaction that causes cat allergy symptoms, like running eyes and sneezing. Funny they would test that on mice. Also, scientists say the compound also worked in human cells grown in the lab.

For your "Daily Dose" of health news online, all you've got to do is log onto our Web site, and you'll fine the latest medical stories, special reports and health library. The address is CNN.com/health. KAGAN: Do you think that was an allergic reaction that the mice were having or a panic attack?

SANCHEZ: Just a little afraid, that's all.

KAGAN: They got more problems than itchy eyes if they see a cat.

We're talking poker. It's a hot trend out there. We're going to talk with some poker experts about why the old game has become such a phenomenon. Also they might have some advice for you novices out there.

SANCHEZ: And the good, the bad and the just plain ugly about traveling in coach. They've got some tips and some tricks that can make your air experience just a little bit more pleasant.

(COMMERCIAL BREAK)

SANCHEZ: So, you want to perfect that poker face, or just be better at bluffing? If you're a poker fan, you might want to listen up to this segment that we bring you now. Mike Sexton and Vince Van Patten are a pair of real pros when it comes to this. We're going to give you some real poker tips. They're taking part in the World Poker Tour. And they're joining us this morning from Los Angeles.

It's great to have you, guys -- again, I should say, right? I appreciate it. All right, let's -- Mike, let's start with you. Why this poker craze that seems to be, really, a recent phenomenon, doesn't it?

MIKE SEXTON, WORLD POKER TOUR ANNOUNCER: Well, really since the World Poker tour started airing a couple years ago, the growth in popularity of poke has just exploded across the country. And frankly, it's because it's reality TV at its finest. It's real people that have put up real money that are really playing for millions of dollars every week. And certainly because of that, Wednesday night is now poker night across America. You know, 9:00 on the Travel Channel, the World Poker Tour comes on. Very exciting. Very popular.

SANCHEZ: Did you ever -- who would've thought that a bunch of guys sitting around playing poker would make people like me -- I'm not a poker player. But I've got to tell you, once in a while, when I'm flipping the channel, I sit there and watch to see who's going to win. Why's it so engaging, Vince?

VINCE VAN PATTEN, WORLD POKER TOUR ANNOUNCER: Well, you know, I think it's just a brilliant game. The element of the bluff, where you don't have to have the best hand, and you can still win is so seductive. I mean, where else, what other game can you do that. And on the World Poker Tour, you know, you get to see that. And you're seeing average-day people, you know, who just don't want a 9-to-5 job go after millions of dollars bluffing their way to championships.

SANCHEZ: Before we get too much into the bluff, tell us if we're interested in, like, playing poker, where do we get started, other than sitting there watching it on TV? Say, you know what? I like this. I want to start playing poker. Do I just call a friend and have him come over, or should I go somewhere?

VAN PATTEN: Well, I mean, there's many different places to play. You can play in the casinos. Of course, there's home games. I represent Hollywood Poker Online, and Mike does Party Poker, so people are playing online. So there's just tremendous different ways of playing poker. But get started. You know, play what you can afford. Don't overdo it, and just have fun.

SANCHEZ: All right, I'm going to ask you, Vince, stay with us, because I'm going to ask you for the very best tip you can give people on playing poker, and especially in terms of psyching out your opponent.

VAN PATTEN: Well, first of all, when you sit down, be selective. It's the only gambling game in the world where you don't have to play your cards. So be selective. Be patient. And watch the table. Have a good peripheral. Okay? Play tight and play solid. But when you finally get that hand, get very aggressive.

SANCHEZ: You have a real passion for this. Let's go over to Mike. Mike, same question. What would be your best tip for poker?

SEXTON: Well, the biggest mistake amateurs or novice players make is that they play too many hands and they call their money off too much. Just remember this about poker.

SANCHEZ: Wait a minute. Call their money off. I'm not quite sure what that means.

SEXTON: Yes, okay, what that means is when their opponents bet, they're calling. They're trying to just put their money in to catch that lucky card where they might win the pot. Just remember this in poker: Bettors are winners; callers are losers. Basically the guy initiating the action, the guy doing the betting, has the advantage over the guy that's doing the calling.

SANCHEZ: Good stuff. Vince Van Patten, Mike Sexton, World Poker Tour. We thank you both. Appreciate it.

VAN PATTEN: Well, thank you. Travel Channel, 9:00. Keep watching.

SANCHEZ: I'll be looking for it. Daryn, over to you.

KAGAN: We're talking now wireless. Just a few years ago, most of us could only dream about surfing the Internet or trolling e-mail without being tethered to a telephone line. The wonderful world of wireless is now here. But there are some pitfalls. We get details from the dotcom desk and CNN's Veronica De La Cruz.

(START VIDEOTAPE)

VERONICA DE LA CRUZ, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Imagine a life lived wirelessly. You can pop open your laptop, and you're instantly connected any time, anywhere. At cnn.com/wireless, an in-depth look at this online technology. How do you know if your Wi-Fi's WEP is turned on? What are the differences between bluejacking and bluesnarfing? If all this tech jargon has left your head spinning, click on Wireless Glossary for a full explanation. For example, still aren't sure what Wi-Fi actually means? Well, it's short for Wireless Fidelity. And if you're accessing the Internet wirelessly on your computer or PDA right now, chances are you're using a flavor of it.

When you go wireless, it's a whole new ballgame for security because your Internet connection is broadcast outside your home. So if you don't secure it, it's like leaving your front door open for intruders. Learn how to protect yourself by changing your SSID, enabling WEP, or turning off your DHCP. You can also check out what equipment you need for a wireless network as well as the latest wireless products from hand-helds to phones, to networking. From the dotcom news desk in Atlanta, I'm Veronica De La Cruz.

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KAGAN: And we have breaking news into us here at CNN about an earthquake that has hit northern Sumatra, Indonesia. Magnitude 8.2. That's from the U.S. Geological Survey. And as big as that number is, the USGS telling us it's actually an aftershock from the original earthquake that caused the tsunami back in December. Of course, Indonesia one of the hardest hit countries in the tsunami disaster. We're going to get more information on that as it becomes available.

SANCHEZ: And I guess as you look at the map, northern Sumatra that's the very first place -- that's the same place where the original earthquake hit. So it's right in that area. Right. I guess that's why they call it an aftershock.

KAGAN: That's why they do that.

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SANCHEZ: Once again, there is important information that we need to pass along to you regarding an earthquake that has struck the very same area that had caused the tsunami that we'd reported. It's an earthquake measuring 8.2, and its apparently has struck right off the coast of Indonesia Monday. And you can see the very same line there.

It does look eerily familiar because it's on the same fault line that originated on the December 26th earthquake that launched a deadly tsunami. The question now is, will this also cause another tsunami, and it hasn't been answered yet. Charles McCreary is on record saying that he cannot be absolutely certain that this quake could or could not possibly cause that.

Let's go now to Julie Martinez. She's with the USGS, the U.S. Geological Survey team, who's following this now. Julie, what can you share with us about this particular earthquake and its possible effects?

JULIE MARTINEZ, U.S. GEOLOGICAL SURVEY: Right now we just have a great earthquake, an aftershock of the previous earthquake on the 26th. It's a magnitude -- preliminary magnitude 8.2. There is a potential for some wave activity, however at this time, we don't have any information.

SANCHEZ: Is there any way for you to be able to tell whether this earthquake has caused a tsunami? And if not now, when?

MARTINEZ: We are -- actually it's in the process. That information we don't have right now. As far as we are concerned, we have a magnitude 8.2 at earthquake center, so that's the information that we have at this point.

SANCHEZ: So, for the people in that area, you're looking at in the map there around Banda Aceh in Sumatra, how are they going to be able to be advised? If they happen to be listening to this broadcast, for example, what should they do?

MARTINEZ: Definitely, they should be aware. I'm sure that the local governments are trying to get the information out that they need to. As far as I can say right now though, we don't have any information.

SANCHEZ: Tell us what's going on right now there at the USGA to try and gather that information.

MARTINEZ: Well, we just have got the magnitude out. It's pretty hectic. The phones are ringing off the hook. And we're trying to get in contact with other people to figure out what effects are going to be potentially occurring.

SANCHEZ: Are phone calls being made to that region there around Banda Aceh in Indonesia?

MARTINEZ: We are calling the lists that we have, as far as the people that need to be notified for this earthquake.

SANCHEZ: And I imagine that would be the people in that area. We're looking at a map now of that part of Indonesia around Sumatra. Do you know if anyone's been able to make contact with any officials there at this point?

MARTINEZ: We have -- we do not -- we called the people that we are in charge of calling, but we did not call -- we don't have that information, as far as the local governments. We are calling the necessary people that we have on our lists.

SANCHEZ: Can you try and put this in perspective for us? We understand at this point it's an 8.2 measurement on this earthquake/aftershock?

MARTINEZ: Yes.

SANCHEZ: How severe is that? MARTINEZ: Well, it's a great earthquake. It's the largest in our classification. Right now I don't have the information in regards to -- relative to other earthquakes, but it is a very significant quake and it's not as large as the main shock, but it is a great earthquake.

SANCHEZ: Let me ask you one more thing before we let you go. Do you have any sense of timing -- after an earthquake like this, how long it would take, if indeed, does create any severe weather or wave pattern, how long it would take to affect the people there in Sumatra who I figure, about 50, 60 miles away?

MARTINEZ: Yes. It -- probably within the hour, but depending upon where you are along the coast, I mean, it totally changes based on your location along Sumatra. has a long coastline, so it's just relative based on how far away you are.

SANCHEZ: Well, Julie, we know, we can sense in your voice, that certainly, there's a lot going on there. You guys are extremely busy. We thank you for taking time to give us this information that we're going to now be passing along to as many people as we possibly can, who could possibly be in harm's way. Daryn, over to you.

KAGAN: All right. We'll going to bring you the latest as we get that information out of Indonesia. Once again, a major earthquake that they are calling an aftershock, 8.2 magnitude, off the coast of Indonesia near Sumatra. Much more information coming ahead on that. Right now, a break. We're back after this.

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KAGAN: Before we get to our business report, I want to go back to our breaking news. And that is coming out of Sumatra, Indonesia, what they are calling a great earthquake, the highest classification. Magnitude 8.2. On the same fault line as the earthquake back in December that caused the deadly tsunami. They're saying that this one hit within the last hour along that same fault line.

We have with us on the phone right now Mike Chinoy, our correspondent. He usually is based in that area and was in Banda Aceh for quite a long time after the last tsunami. Mike, if you can put into perspective where this latest earthquake hit.

MIKE CHINOY, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Well, by all accounts, it appears to have been very close to where the initial quake on December 26th struck. In fact, seismologists had warned in a study that was published in the last couple of weeks that the crust of the earth there was still quite unstable after the last quake and they were predicting that there was a real possibility of another very significant quake.

Needless to say, for the people living there, the quake would have been, on this magnitude, would have been very, very frightening. When I was there, we had numerous aftershocks, some of them registering 6 or above on the Richter scale. But eight or 8.2 is really very high. And obviously, the immediate concern that many people would have is whether or not this, as was the case last time, would trigger another tsunami. That, of course, would add a great deal more danger and anxiety at this point. We don't know.

But the other concern is, of course, that many of the buildings that were still standing after the last quake and tsunami would still be in quite weakened condition, and therefore, much more vulnerable to suffering damage from a quake of this magnitude.

KAGAN: Mike, so far all we know is about this earthquake of 8.2 magnitude. We have no word of any tsunami resulting from it. And yet the last time around, on December 26th, the big problem, in addition to the tsunami, was the lack of warning system. I would imagine there is no new system that's been put in place since then.

CHINOY: No, that's correct. There's been a lot of talk by governments in the region and beyond about the need for some kind of tsunami warning system. Most governments acknowledge that that's important. But there is no progress that's been made on that score so far.

In fact, the focus in Sumatra, in this northern part of Indonesia, has really been just on recovering from the immediate aftermaths of the previous quake and tsunami, trying to help people begin to rebuild their lives. A warning system is a complicated process. It involves coordination by governments of a lot of different nations putting electronic sensors into place in the ocean.

So there would not be any system -- the only thing I would say though is that for the people that survived the last one, the instinct on a quake of this magnitude would probably be to get away from the sea coast as quickly as possible, because people certainly would remember what happened last time.

KAGAN: All right. Mike Chinoy joining us on the phone from Massachusetts. He was in Banda Aceh in the follow-up of the tsunami disaster in December and January.

SANCHEZ: Let's go to Jacqui Jeras. She's following the weather, as well as some reaction to what's going on with this really natural phenomenon that's taking place off of Sumatra. Jacqui, over to you.

JACQUI JERAS, CNN METEOROLOGIST: Well, I've just been surfing the net, trying to find some more information on this. And I found a statement from the Pacific Tsunami Warning Center. That's a division of NOA and the National Weather Service. And it says that this earthquake does have the potential to generate a widely destructive tsunami in the ocean or seas near that earthquake.

It's asking authorities in that area that they should be taking immediate action, which should include evacuation of the coast within a thousand kilometers of the epicenter and close monitoring of this to determine if further evacuation is needed. So this coming in from the Pacific Tsunami Center, a division of NOA, saying that it could possibly generate a tsunami -- Rick and Daryn.

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