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Controversial AIDS Research; Mom's Moguls

Aired May 06, 2005 - 11:30   ET

THIS IS A RUSH TRANSCRIPT. THIS COPY MAY NOT BE IN ITS FINAL FORM AND MAY BE UPDATED.

THIS IS A RUSH TRANSCRIPT. THIS COPY MAY NOT BE IN ITS FINAL FORM AND MAY BE UPDATED.


DARYN KAGAN, CNN ANCHOR: President Bush is due in Latvia in four hours. When he's there, he'll meet with leaders of all three Baltic republics. The highlight of the president's five-day European trip comes in Russia. That's where he'll mark 60 years since the allied victory in Europe in World War II.
British voters are keeping Prime Minister Tony Blair at Number Ten Downing Street. His Labor Party won a majority in Parliament, but Labor lost close to 100 seats, as voters expressed displeasure with Blair's Iraq policy.

And Pope Benedict XVI welcomed 31 new members of the Swiss Guard today. He praised the young men for their dedication and service. The colorfully uniformed guard has protected popes since the 16th century.

Keeping you informed, CNN, the most trusted name in news.

Well, we're going to look now at an ethical debate that has emerged over federally-funded research that used foster children to test AIDS drugs. Critics say that vulnerable children were used as guinea pigs, often without proper oversight. Supporters say the children were given potentially life-saving drugs they wouldn't have gotten otherwise.

Our Kathleen Koch has details.

(BEGIN VIDEOTAPE)

KATHLEEN KOCH, CNN CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): Shirlie Schristner does what few of us would do. She takes in sick children, a foster mother.

SHIRLIE SCHRISTNER, FOSTER PARENT: And the CPS worker said to me, I don't know why you're going to take this little boy. He only has about two weeks to live.

KOCH: She might be considered a hero, and maybe she is. Schristner allowed some of those children, children with HIV, to be used in drug trials, and some are alive today because of that decision.

SCHRISTNER: And, had it not been for a certain drug study, that little boy would have died, and I'm here to tell you today that that little boy is a football player, and he is a straight-A student.

KOCH: And in some cities, it was what wasn't done that raises questions. Some foster children never had anyone protecting their interests, never had an advocate.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: To suggest that my predecessor's or that I would be willing to engage in any Tuskegee like experiments is just not right.

KOCH: An investigation by the Associated Press found many foster children were never given the required advocates to oversee their participation in the potentially risky trials. A preliminary count in New York City found less than a third of the 465 foster children in AIDS drug tests there got such monitors. Though such monitors are required by city law, law designed to ensure that kids are not used as guinea pigs in the interest of science.

JENNIFER JONES AUSTIN, NY ADMIN. FOR CHILDREN'S SERV: We have not found here in New York City, in the reviews that we have done to date, any evidence, any indication that children were inappropriately enrolled in clinical trials or that children once enrolled in clinical trials did not get the medical care that was being sought for them.

KOCH: At least seven states used foster children in AIDS drug tests, but major institutions like Johns Hopkins University in Baltimore, Children's Memorial Hospital in Chicago, and Columbia Presbyterian Hospital in New York say they never named advocates to represent the interests of the foster children in their tests. They say that's because the research carried minimal risk, and the children would benefit from being included. On that point, there is disagreement.

RUTH MACKLIN, ALBERT EINSTEIN COLLEGE OF MEDICINE: Now, clearly, giving an AIDS cocktail, which is experimental, has never been given in children before, administering that, it's just foolish and wrong to call it minimal risk. The sad story is that those who are supposed to be caring for and overseeing research on vulnerable subjects just dropped the ball.

KOCH: The Associated Press investigation found between 700 and 1,400 foster children have taken part in AIDS drug studies since the late 1980s. They were funded by the National Institutes of Health. NIH would not answer questions about why it never followed up to make certain hospitals were following the rules.

It only issued a statement saying that quote "if those safeguards need to be strengthened, NIH will do everything in its power to do so."

(on camera): Some foster children were sickened, some even died while participating in the AIDS drug trials. Critics charge that may have happened because there was no advocate to protect them.

(voice-over): But supporters like Schristner maintain many are living healthier lives today, precisely because they took a chance on then unproven treatments.

Kathleen Koch, CNN, Washington.

(END VIDEOTAPE) KAGAN: The mother and stepfather of the child once known as Precious Doe are now facing murder charges in her death. Authorities say the child, whose decapitated body was found in Kansas City, Missouri, four years ago, was Erica Michelle Maria Green. Police say the little girl was kicked in the head by her stepfather and left unconscious until she died. The break in the case came when a man responded to an ad placed by a community activist.

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

ALONZO WASHINGTON, COMMUNITY ACTIVIST: I think that the investigators really didn't take him very seriously, you know, when I gave it to them. They were telling me -- you know, it was almost verbal judo back and forth with the police. Because they were saying Alonzo, this tip is no good. They have five children. And I'm telling them, it's eight, I found that out. They're saying there's no record of a Erica Green. But I said, this is little a child and this is a mother that had a number of suitors. You know, it not be a record of it. Let's look at it closer.

And you know, when I gave the information over to the Oklahoma police, they immediately arrested them. And I had my tipster send me pictures of eight children and also some DNA. And from there, from Saturday on into Wednesday night, you know, we got a crack in the case. And it's resolved after four years.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

KAGAN: Yes, it is. The mother and stepfather are charged now with second-degree felony murder and endangering the welfare of a child.

Here's what else is on the docket today in our look at legal briefs.

In Atlanta, the district attorney says he will seek the death penalty against courthouse shooting suspect Brian Nichols. Nichols is accused in the March 11th rampage that began at the Fulton County Courthouse. Yesterday a grand jury indicted him on 54 counts, including four counts of murder.

An appeals court has reinstated the second-degree murder conviction in a San Francisco dog mauling case. The judge had reduced the verdict against Marjorie Knoller to involuntary manslaughter after her dogs attacked and killed her neighbor, Diane Whipple. Knoller served 33 months, but she could face a maximum of 15 years to life on the murder conviction.

In New York, three doctors are accused of illegally supplying Viagra and other drugs to members of the Gambino crime family. They are charged of peddling pills in exchange for favors, ranging from auto repairs to construction work. Their lawyers say the men are honest, hard-working doctors who provided legitimate medical services.

All right, you want to feel good about two young men? You're going to, straight ahead. A perfect story for Mother's Day weekend. Jabious and Anthony Williams, two brothers, they started a t-shirt business. There they are, look at those faces. They started a business to earn some extra money. Get this. They wanted to buy their mom a house. We will talk to them and get their story and find out the story behind those smiles straight ahead. They are being honored for their efforts. They'll be with me in just a moment.

(COMMERCIAL BREAK)

KAGAN: Just in case you need a reminder, Mother's Day is Sunday. Now the young men you are about to meet did their success for mom. They launched a T-shirt business to help her buy the family's first home. And now Anthony and Jabious Williams are getting national honors for their business savvy. They join me from Washington this morning, along with mom. You got to bring mom. That's Angela Stoutamire.

Mom, we're going to talk to you in a second. First to your fabulous sons.

Good morning, gentleman.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Good morning.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Good morning.

KAGAN: You have to tell me how your thinking goes, because I don't think a lot of teenage boys are sitting home going, hmm, I know, we need to help our mom buy a house.

So, Anthony, you are the oldest. Let's start with you. How'd the idea come up?

ANTHONY WILLIAMS, SAJA ORIGINALS: Actually, me and my brother, we was on the same program. My mom always raised us to be in a church environment, and we always learned how to think positive. So we see my mom going through some of her problems and we always wanted the best for her.

And so at the same time, my brother and I, we decided, hey, since my mom's going through these problems right now, maybe we can help her out and do whatever we can to help her out. So from our T-shirt business, all the money that we made, we just always gave it to her, so she could just enjoy life to the fullest.

KAGAN: You're making a lot of kids look bad this morning.

Jabious, tell us about the company, it's called Saja, S-A-J-A. Tell us what you're making, and there's actually a theme and a spirit to the company.

JABIOUS WILLIAMS, SAJA ORIGINALS: Yes, Saja, meaning "same as Jesus Almighty." We came up with this name because my mom thought it would be good to have something that's representing positive than more than negative. So since we've been brought up in a church environment, where we attend Spirit of Faith. So my mom, we came up with the name Saja, same as Jesus Almighty. And it means that we set an example to live a positive lifestyle so others can follow.

KAGAN: So it's all well and good to come up with this great idea, we're going to start this company, make money, blah, blah, blah, but Anthony, there was lessons to learn along the way.

A. WILLIAMS: Yes.

J. WILLIAMS: Yes, some lessons like marketing, knowing how to, like, reach your market, target your market and also penetrate your market.

KAGAN: And you're learning as you go.

OK, Angela Stoutamire, mom, let's bring you in here. Your sons mentioning church. You are a single mom. You did something right. Are you feeding them, like, extra spinach or something? How are you raising these great young men?

ANGELA STOUTAMIRE, MOTHER: I always talk positive to them. And I always made sure that nobody says nothing to negative to each other, and we always encourage each other, and we always attend our services. I kept them very active in church. We attend Spirit of Faith Christian Center. Dr. Dolores and Pastor Mike Freeman. And we just always enjoy just going on bible study nights, and always just having fun together.

KAGAN: Well that is nice. You are such a nice family.

So I understand you are as far, guys, as a down payment?

STOUTAMIRE: Yes.

KAGAN: So is there a house yet, I guess is what I want to know?

STOUTAMIRE: Well, right now we're living in a townhouse. They helped me put down a down payment and also helped me pay off my -- you know, to get my Beacon (ph) score up and get my credit in order in order to be able to purchase the home.

KAGAN: Mom, I think you need to write a book. There's a lot of moms out there that are saying, what are you doing?

Anthony and Jabious, what does the future hold for you, both in terms of the T-shirt company and what your plans are, college or after that?

J. WILLIAMS: Yes, I plan to attend Southeastern University, major in business administration. And also, I am looking into studying the real estate. And also we are going to keep up -- while I am in college, we will operate our business while we are in college.

KAGAN: And, Anthony, you are wearing one of the shirts, right?

A. WILLIAMS: Yes.

KAGAN: Well, sport it. Let's see what -- very nice. And are you planning on going to college as well?

A. WILLIAMS: Yes, I plan to attend Howard University. My brother's actually my role model kind of like, so I'm also looking into real estate as well and learning more about business as well as he is.

KAGAN: Well, I have a feeling that we will be able to pull this tape one day, and say, see, we knew them when. We'll have proof of that. Well, congratulations to you. I know you are being honored for your entrepreneurship as well. And congratulations on your success. And the most congratulations to you, Miss Stoutamire, for raising these two fine sons. And happy Mother's Day to you.

STOUTAMIRE: Thank you!

KAGAN: Sounds like every day is Mother's Day in your household.

STOUTAMIRE: Yes, yes.

KAGAN: That's good. You trained them well. Very good. Thank you.

And on that note, we'll take a break, and we're back after this.

(COMMERCIAL BREAK)

KAGAN: Let's find out what's coming up at the top of the hour with Wolf Blitzer.

Hi, Wolf.

WOLF BLITZER, CNN ANCHOR: Hi, Daryn. Thanks very much.

A busy hour on NEWS FROM CNN. There's growing concern North Korea may actually be getting very close to testing a nuclear weapon. That's something they have not done yet. But how serious of a threat would that be? We'll take a closer look also.

Also, he was sworn to uphold the law, but now a police officer is on the run amid allegations of molestation and murder involving little girls and his dead wife. Our Randi Kaye will have the report.

Watch for those stories and much more at the top of the hour on NEWS FROM CNN. In the meantime, Daryn, back to you.

KAGAN: OK, I'll take it from here. Thank you, Wolf.

(STOCK MARKET REPORT)

KAGAN: A case of identity theft involving a baseball Hall-of- Famer was apparently all in the family. A lawyer for Carl Yastrzemski says that his son stole his identity and ran up thousands of dollars in debt before his death. The lawyer tells "The Boston Herald," the son impersonated his father to get the credit cards. "The Palm Beach Post" says the collection companies have been pursuing the elder for payment.

In the days of identity theft and computer hacking, some age-old advice rings true. Forewarned is forearmed. CNN's Christina Park is at the dot-com desk with tips on how to protect yourself.

(BEGIN VIDEOTAPE)

CHRISTINA PARK, CNN.COM CORRESPONDENT: Your mom may have said there's only one of you in the world, but that might not be so true in the digital age. CNNmoney.com Security Special helps you stop identity fraud in its tracks.

Let's say your employer lost your personal data, or someone cracked into your accounts. First thing, call the credit bureau and set up a fraud alert, or sign up for a credit monitoring service. That way, if someone tries to set up an account in your name, you'll be one of the first to know. And be vigilant. Check your credit report every few months for suspicious activity, like a new credit card account you never signed up for.

And could your personal computer be wide open to identity fraud? Aside from the obvious, like installing antivirus software and a firewall, what else can you do? First, be sure to read any terms of agreement before you download anything for free online. You could be saying yes to spyware, software that gathers personal data without your knowledge. And, don't be lazy or too trusting. New viruses are written every day, so keep updating your security software. And don't open just any e-mail that drops into your inbox.

CNNmoney.com/security is here to make sure that me, myself and I, stays that way.

I'm Christina Park reporting from the dot-com desk.

(END VIDEOTAPE)

(COMMERCIAL BREAK)

KAGAN: Now the runaway bride trying to run away again. This time from all the jokes from the media. Some of us might want to borrow her famous towel.

Here now, CNN's Jeanne Moos.

(BEGIN VIDEOTAPE)

JEANNE MOOS, CNN CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): It's the kind of story where you expect the camera to pop out from behind the curtain, where cable coverage means talk of having the runaway bride's head examined, is split screen so we can examine her bizarre head.

REV. THOMAS SMILEY, LAKEWOOD BAPTIST CHURCH: She is receiving professional therapy.

MOOS: Where the catchall phrase "cold feet" gets cold water thrown on it in the statement Jennifer Wilbanks stayed up all night writing.

SMILEY: "May I assure you that my running away had nothing to do with cold feet."

MOOS: But even though she says she was excited about getting married...

SMILEY: "And how I could not wait to be called Mrs. John Mason."

MOOS: The late night comedians aren't buying it.

DAVID LETTERMAN, HOST: John, listen to me. This -- you've got an out. This is a gift from God. Grab it.

MOOS: All eyes have been on the eyes of the runaway bride.

JAY LENO, HOST: It's like mesmerizing. I wonder what other famous people would look like with those eyes. Like Martha Stewart. How would she look with them? You see what I'm saying? Or even President Bush, if he was that way? You see what I'm saying?

MOOS: Some TV critics have gotten cold feet about the coverage. "The runaway bride has turned into a runaway television embarrassment," says the "Washington Post" critic, who also works for CNN. Cartoonists are lampooning the media's obsession. Forget real missing posters. What's really missing is legitimate news in the never ending, ad nauseam and pointless TV coverage of the Georgia runaway bride.

(on camera): Now, does this count as ad nauseam and pointless?

(voice-over): You bet. But it's hard to resist when the story is often most popular on news Web sites.

The runaway bride is now running away from the media. Reporters ask in vain, "Where is she?"

SMILEY: She is in a location that she is in.

MOOS: The runaway bride's head gear has become the equivalent of Martha Stewart's poncho.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Well, one knitting blogger has posted the pattern just recently. Here it is. Now you, too, can have your fashionable blanket to wear over your head when hiding from the media.

MOOS: And just as the poncho became a punch line.

LENO: Show the interview.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Do you still love her?

JOHN MASON: Absolutely. Yes. I, just because we haven't walked down the aisle, just because we haven't stood, you know, in front of the 500 people and said I do...

MOOS: Jeanne Moos, CNN, New York.

(END VIDEOTAPE)

KAGAN: You kind of shouldn't laugh, because there's a woman who's really struggling out there, and yet, some of it's very funny.

(WEATHER REPORT)

KAGAN: Hey, that's going to do it for me. I'm Daryn Kagan, wrapped up my week. I'll be back here with you on Monday morning. Wolf Blitzer takes over from Washington, D.C. Hi, Wolf.

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Aired May 6, 2005 - 11:30   ET
THIS IS A RUSH TRANSCRIPT. THIS COPY MAY NOT BE IN ITS FINAL FORM AND MAY BE UPDATED.
DARYN KAGAN, CNN ANCHOR: President Bush is due in Latvia in four hours. When he's there, he'll meet with leaders of all three Baltic republics. The highlight of the president's five-day European trip comes in Russia. That's where he'll mark 60 years since the allied victory in Europe in World War II.
British voters are keeping Prime Minister Tony Blair at Number Ten Downing Street. His Labor Party won a majority in Parliament, but Labor lost close to 100 seats, as voters expressed displeasure with Blair's Iraq policy.

And Pope Benedict XVI welcomed 31 new members of the Swiss Guard today. He praised the young men for their dedication and service. The colorfully uniformed guard has protected popes since the 16th century.

Keeping you informed, CNN, the most trusted name in news.

Well, we're going to look now at an ethical debate that has emerged over federally-funded research that used foster children to test AIDS drugs. Critics say that vulnerable children were used as guinea pigs, often without proper oversight. Supporters say the children were given potentially life-saving drugs they wouldn't have gotten otherwise.

Our Kathleen Koch has details.

(BEGIN VIDEOTAPE)

KATHLEEN KOCH, CNN CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): Shirlie Schristner does what few of us would do. She takes in sick children, a foster mother.

SHIRLIE SCHRISTNER, FOSTER PARENT: And the CPS worker said to me, I don't know why you're going to take this little boy. He only has about two weeks to live.

KOCH: She might be considered a hero, and maybe she is. Schristner allowed some of those children, children with HIV, to be used in drug trials, and some are alive today because of that decision.

SCHRISTNER: And, had it not been for a certain drug study, that little boy would have died, and I'm here to tell you today that that little boy is a football player, and he is a straight-A student.

KOCH: And in some cities, it was what wasn't done that raises questions. Some foster children never had anyone protecting their interests, never had an advocate.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: To suggest that my predecessor's or that I would be willing to engage in any Tuskegee like experiments is just not right.

KOCH: An investigation by the Associated Press found many foster children were never given the required advocates to oversee their participation in the potentially risky trials. A preliminary count in New York City found less than a third of the 465 foster children in AIDS drug tests there got such monitors. Though such monitors are required by city law, law designed to ensure that kids are not used as guinea pigs in the interest of science.

JENNIFER JONES AUSTIN, NY ADMIN. FOR CHILDREN'S SERV: We have not found here in New York City, in the reviews that we have done to date, any evidence, any indication that children were inappropriately enrolled in clinical trials or that children once enrolled in clinical trials did not get the medical care that was being sought for them.

KOCH: At least seven states used foster children in AIDS drug tests, but major institutions like Johns Hopkins University in Baltimore, Children's Memorial Hospital in Chicago, and Columbia Presbyterian Hospital in New York say they never named advocates to represent the interests of the foster children in their tests. They say that's because the research carried minimal risk, and the children would benefit from being included. On that point, there is disagreement.

RUTH MACKLIN, ALBERT EINSTEIN COLLEGE OF MEDICINE: Now, clearly, giving an AIDS cocktail, which is experimental, has never been given in children before, administering that, it's just foolish and wrong to call it minimal risk. The sad story is that those who are supposed to be caring for and overseeing research on vulnerable subjects just dropped the ball.

KOCH: The Associated Press investigation found between 700 and 1,400 foster children have taken part in AIDS drug studies since the late 1980s. They were funded by the National Institutes of Health. NIH would not answer questions about why it never followed up to make certain hospitals were following the rules.

It only issued a statement saying that quote "if those safeguards need to be strengthened, NIH will do everything in its power to do so."

(on camera): Some foster children were sickened, some even died while participating in the AIDS drug trials. Critics charge that may have happened because there was no advocate to protect them.

(voice-over): But supporters like Schristner maintain many are living healthier lives today, precisely because they took a chance on then unproven treatments.

Kathleen Koch, CNN, Washington.

(END VIDEOTAPE) KAGAN: The mother and stepfather of the child once known as Precious Doe are now facing murder charges in her death. Authorities say the child, whose decapitated body was found in Kansas City, Missouri, four years ago, was Erica Michelle Maria Green. Police say the little girl was kicked in the head by her stepfather and left unconscious until she died. The break in the case came when a man responded to an ad placed by a community activist.

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

ALONZO WASHINGTON, COMMUNITY ACTIVIST: I think that the investigators really didn't take him very seriously, you know, when I gave it to them. They were telling me -- you know, it was almost verbal judo back and forth with the police. Because they were saying Alonzo, this tip is no good. They have five children. And I'm telling them, it's eight, I found that out. They're saying there's no record of a Erica Green. But I said, this is little a child and this is a mother that had a number of suitors. You know, it not be a record of it. Let's look at it closer.

And you know, when I gave the information over to the Oklahoma police, they immediately arrested them. And I had my tipster send me pictures of eight children and also some DNA. And from there, from Saturday on into Wednesday night, you know, we got a crack in the case. And it's resolved after four years.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

KAGAN: Yes, it is. The mother and stepfather are charged now with second-degree felony murder and endangering the welfare of a child.

Here's what else is on the docket today in our look at legal briefs.

In Atlanta, the district attorney says he will seek the death penalty against courthouse shooting suspect Brian Nichols. Nichols is accused in the March 11th rampage that began at the Fulton County Courthouse. Yesterday a grand jury indicted him on 54 counts, including four counts of murder.

An appeals court has reinstated the second-degree murder conviction in a San Francisco dog mauling case. The judge had reduced the verdict against Marjorie Knoller to involuntary manslaughter after her dogs attacked and killed her neighbor, Diane Whipple. Knoller served 33 months, but she could face a maximum of 15 years to life on the murder conviction.

In New York, three doctors are accused of illegally supplying Viagra and other drugs to members of the Gambino crime family. They are charged of peddling pills in exchange for favors, ranging from auto repairs to construction work. Their lawyers say the men are honest, hard-working doctors who provided legitimate medical services.

All right, you want to feel good about two young men? You're going to, straight ahead. A perfect story for Mother's Day weekend. Jabious and Anthony Williams, two brothers, they started a t-shirt business. There they are, look at those faces. They started a business to earn some extra money. Get this. They wanted to buy their mom a house. We will talk to them and get their story and find out the story behind those smiles straight ahead. They are being honored for their efforts. They'll be with me in just a moment.

(COMMERCIAL BREAK)

KAGAN: Just in case you need a reminder, Mother's Day is Sunday. Now the young men you are about to meet did their success for mom. They launched a T-shirt business to help her buy the family's first home. And now Anthony and Jabious Williams are getting national honors for their business savvy. They join me from Washington this morning, along with mom. You got to bring mom. That's Angela Stoutamire.

Mom, we're going to talk to you in a second. First to your fabulous sons.

Good morning, gentleman.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Good morning.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Good morning.

KAGAN: You have to tell me how your thinking goes, because I don't think a lot of teenage boys are sitting home going, hmm, I know, we need to help our mom buy a house.

So, Anthony, you are the oldest. Let's start with you. How'd the idea come up?

ANTHONY WILLIAMS, SAJA ORIGINALS: Actually, me and my brother, we was on the same program. My mom always raised us to be in a church environment, and we always learned how to think positive. So we see my mom going through some of her problems and we always wanted the best for her.

And so at the same time, my brother and I, we decided, hey, since my mom's going through these problems right now, maybe we can help her out and do whatever we can to help her out. So from our T-shirt business, all the money that we made, we just always gave it to her, so she could just enjoy life to the fullest.

KAGAN: You're making a lot of kids look bad this morning.

Jabious, tell us about the company, it's called Saja, S-A-J-A. Tell us what you're making, and there's actually a theme and a spirit to the company.

JABIOUS WILLIAMS, SAJA ORIGINALS: Yes, Saja, meaning "same as Jesus Almighty." We came up with this name because my mom thought it would be good to have something that's representing positive than more than negative. So since we've been brought up in a church environment, where we attend Spirit of Faith. So my mom, we came up with the name Saja, same as Jesus Almighty. And it means that we set an example to live a positive lifestyle so others can follow.

KAGAN: So it's all well and good to come up with this great idea, we're going to start this company, make money, blah, blah, blah, but Anthony, there was lessons to learn along the way.

A. WILLIAMS: Yes.

J. WILLIAMS: Yes, some lessons like marketing, knowing how to, like, reach your market, target your market and also penetrate your market.

KAGAN: And you're learning as you go.

OK, Angela Stoutamire, mom, let's bring you in here. Your sons mentioning church. You are a single mom. You did something right. Are you feeding them, like, extra spinach or something? How are you raising these great young men?

ANGELA STOUTAMIRE, MOTHER: I always talk positive to them. And I always made sure that nobody says nothing to negative to each other, and we always encourage each other, and we always attend our services. I kept them very active in church. We attend Spirit of Faith Christian Center. Dr. Dolores and Pastor Mike Freeman. And we just always enjoy just going on bible study nights, and always just having fun together.

KAGAN: Well that is nice. You are such a nice family.

So I understand you are as far, guys, as a down payment?

STOUTAMIRE: Yes.

KAGAN: So is there a house yet, I guess is what I want to know?

STOUTAMIRE: Well, right now we're living in a townhouse. They helped me put down a down payment and also helped me pay off my -- you know, to get my Beacon (ph) score up and get my credit in order in order to be able to purchase the home.

KAGAN: Mom, I think you need to write a book. There's a lot of moms out there that are saying, what are you doing?

Anthony and Jabious, what does the future hold for you, both in terms of the T-shirt company and what your plans are, college or after that?

J. WILLIAMS: Yes, I plan to attend Southeastern University, major in business administration. And also, I am looking into studying the real estate. And also we are going to keep up -- while I am in college, we will operate our business while we are in college.

KAGAN: And, Anthony, you are wearing one of the shirts, right?

A. WILLIAMS: Yes.

KAGAN: Well, sport it. Let's see what -- very nice. And are you planning on going to college as well?

A. WILLIAMS: Yes, I plan to attend Howard University. My brother's actually my role model kind of like, so I'm also looking into real estate as well and learning more about business as well as he is.

KAGAN: Well, I have a feeling that we will be able to pull this tape one day, and say, see, we knew them when. We'll have proof of that. Well, congratulations to you. I know you are being honored for your entrepreneurship as well. And congratulations on your success. And the most congratulations to you, Miss Stoutamire, for raising these two fine sons. And happy Mother's Day to you.

STOUTAMIRE: Thank you!

KAGAN: Sounds like every day is Mother's Day in your household.

STOUTAMIRE: Yes, yes.

KAGAN: That's good. You trained them well. Very good. Thank you.

And on that note, we'll take a break, and we're back after this.

(COMMERCIAL BREAK)

KAGAN: Let's find out what's coming up at the top of the hour with Wolf Blitzer.

Hi, Wolf.

WOLF BLITZER, CNN ANCHOR: Hi, Daryn. Thanks very much.

A busy hour on NEWS FROM CNN. There's growing concern North Korea may actually be getting very close to testing a nuclear weapon. That's something they have not done yet. But how serious of a threat would that be? We'll take a closer look also.

Also, he was sworn to uphold the law, but now a police officer is on the run amid allegations of molestation and murder involving little girls and his dead wife. Our Randi Kaye will have the report.

Watch for those stories and much more at the top of the hour on NEWS FROM CNN. In the meantime, Daryn, back to you.

KAGAN: OK, I'll take it from here. Thank you, Wolf.

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KAGAN: A case of identity theft involving a baseball Hall-of- Famer was apparently all in the family. A lawyer for Carl Yastrzemski says that his son stole his identity and ran up thousands of dollars in debt before his death. The lawyer tells "The Boston Herald," the son impersonated his father to get the credit cards. "The Palm Beach Post" says the collection companies have been pursuing the elder for payment.

In the days of identity theft and computer hacking, some age-old advice rings true. Forewarned is forearmed. CNN's Christina Park is at the dot-com desk with tips on how to protect yourself.

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CHRISTINA PARK, CNN.COM CORRESPONDENT: Your mom may have said there's only one of you in the world, but that might not be so true in the digital age. CNNmoney.com Security Special helps you stop identity fraud in its tracks.

Let's say your employer lost your personal data, or someone cracked into your accounts. First thing, call the credit bureau and set up a fraud alert, or sign up for a credit monitoring service. That way, if someone tries to set up an account in your name, you'll be one of the first to know. And be vigilant. Check your credit report every few months for suspicious activity, like a new credit card account you never signed up for.

And could your personal computer be wide open to identity fraud? Aside from the obvious, like installing antivirus software and a firewall, what else can you do? First, be sure to read any terms of agreement before you download anything for free online. You could be saying yes to spyware, software that gathers personal data without your knowledge. And, don't be lazy or too trusting. New viruses are written every day, so keep updating your security software. And don't open just any e-mail that drops into your inbox.

CNNmoney.com/security is here to make sure that me, myself and I, stays that way.

I'm Christina Park reporting from the dot-com desk.

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KAGAN: Now the runaway bride trying to run away again. This time from all the jokes from the media. Some of us might want to borrow her famous towel.

Here now, CNN's Jeanne Moos.

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JEANNE MOOS, CNN CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): It's the kind of story where you expect the camera to pop out from behind the curtain, where cable coverage means talk of having the runaway bride's head examined, is split screen so we can examine her bizarre head.

REV. THOMAS SMILEY, LAKEWOOD BAPTIST CHURCH: She is receiving professional therapy.

MOOS: Where the catchall phrase "cold feet" gets cold water thrown on it in the statement Jennifer Wilbanks stayed up all night writing.

SMILEY: "May I assure you that my running away had nothing to do with cold feet."

MOOS: But even though she says she was excited about getting married...

SMILEY: "And how I could not wait to be called Mrs. John Mason."

MOOS: The late night comedians aren't buying it.

DAVID LETTERMAN, HOST: John, listen to me. This -- you've got an out. This is a gift from God. Grab it.

MOOS: All eyes have been on the eyes of the runaway bride.

JAY LENO, HOST: It's like mesmerizing. I wonder what other famous people would look like with those eyes. Like Martha Stewart. How would she look with them? You see what I'm saying? Or even President Bush, if he was that way? You see what I'm saying?

MOOS: Some TV critics have gotten cold feet about the coverage. "The runaway bride has turned into a runaway television embarrassment," says the "Washington Post" critic, who also works for CNN. Cartoonists are lampooning the media's obsession. Forget real missing posters. What's really missing is legitimate news in the never ending, ad nauseam and pointless TV coverage of the Georgia runaway bride.

(on camera): Now, does this count as ad nauseam and pointless?

(voice-over): You bet. But it's hard to resist when the story is often most popular on news Web sites.

The runaway bride is now running away from the media. Reporters ask in vain, "Where is she?"

SMILEY: She is in a location that she is in.

MOOS: The runaway bride's head gear has become the equivalent of Martha Stewart's poncho.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Well, one knitting blogger has posted the pattern just recently. Here it is. Now you, too, can have your fashionable blanket to wear over your head when hiding from the media.

MOOS: And just as the poncho became a punch line.

LENO: Show the interview.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Do you still love her?

JOHN MASON: Absolutely. Yes. I, just because we haven't walked down the aisle, just because we haven't stood, you know, in front of the 500 people and said I do...

MOOS: Jeanne Moos, CNN, New York.

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KAGAN: You kind of shouldn't laugh, because there's a woman who's really struggling out there, and yet, some of it's very funny.

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KAGAN: Hey, that's going to do it for me. I'm Daryn Kagan, wrapped up my week. I'll be back here with you on Monday morning. Wolf Blitzer takes over from Washington, D.C. Hi, Wolf.

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