Return to Transcripts main page

CNN Live Today

Missing in Aruba; Terror Arrests; Marines Fired On

Aired June 08, 2005 - 10:59   ET

THIS IS A RUSH TRANSCRIPT. THIS COPY MAY NOT BE IN ITS FINAL FORM AND MAY BE UPDATED.


THIS IS A RUSH TRANSCRIPT. THIS COPY MAY NOT BE IN ITS FINAL FORM AND MAY BE UPDATED.


DARYN KAGAN, CNN ANCHOR: Let's take a look at what's happening "Now in the News."
Authorities say a terrorism investigation in Lodi, California, has netted four arrests. A father and son are among the four people in custody. The FBI says the son lied about attending an al Qaeda training camp in Pakistan. Details ahead in a live report.

U.S. and Canadian authorities are facing questions after a man with a chainsaw, a homemade sword and other weapons was allowed to enter the U.S. Oh my. Authorities confiscated the weapons but allowed Gregory Despres to cross a Canadian border into Maine. He was later arrested and charged with murdering two elderly neighbors in Canada.

Justice Janice Rogers Brown is expected to win confirmation to the federal appeals court today. The Senate votes this afternoon. Democrats criticized Brown's view as radical and blocked her nomination for nearly two years. But a deal last month cleared the way for it to move forward.

An Alabama woman is celebrating motherhood and sisterhood. She's given birth to a baby girl after what's being believed to be the first successful ovary transplant in the U.S. Stephanie Yarber became pregnant with the help of ovarian tissue donated by her identical twin sister.

Checking the time, 8:00 a.m. in Santa Maria, California; 11:00 a.m. in Palm Beach, Aruba; and 7:00 p.m. in Baghdad. From CNN Center in Atlanta, good morning. I'm Daryn Kagan.

Up first this hour, a hearing in Aruba for two men arrested in the case of a missing 18-year-old. A judge is deciding whether there's enough evidence to hold the suspects in connection with Natalee Holloway's disappearance.

CNN's Karl Penhaul joins us by phone. He is in Aruba with the latest.

Karl, hello.

KARL PENHAUL, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Daryn, we're outside the courtroom in Oranjestad. That's the capital of Aruba. And so far, those two suspects have not been brought here to appear before a judge. What we understand, because of the media pressure, but also the political pressure on this highly important case, that the judge in fact may travel to two jail cells where the two men are being held to inform them of the decision that he or she is taking as to whether to hold them for a further eight days or not.

What we have seen, though, at the courthouse so far this morning are family and relatives of the two suspects, and we have been talking to one of the suspects by the name of Abraham Jones. We have been talking to his wife. And she has been telling us that on the night that Natalee Holloway disappeared, she went out and partied at a soul festival with her husband, and then later on they went home together.

She also said that he had been sick that night, but that he then got up the following morning before work to go and arrive at a 7:00 shift. And she maintains that her husband is definitely innocent -- Daryn.

KAGAN: All right. Karl Penhaul, live -- well, live on the phone from Aruba. Thank you.

Natalee Holloway's family is not giving up hope that she'll be found alive. Her stepfather says the lack of physical evidence gives them reason to remain positive.

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

GEORGE "JUG" TWITTY, NATALEE HOLLOWAY'S STEPFATHER: I do believe Natalee's alive. And every day that goes by even gives us more hope that Natalee's alive.

The charges, as far as what the defense attorney is saying, I know nothing about that. The authorities here, our liaison with the police department, has said nothing to us about that.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

KAGAN: Twitty says the family is praying and trying to say strong to get through the ordeal.

Natalee Holloway isn't the only American woman reporting missing in Aruba. Twenty-three-year-old Amy Bradley disappeared in 1998 during a family cruise to the Caribbean. Aruba was one of the ship's stops. Amy Bradley was never found.

It you have information, the FBI is asking you to call the office in Richmond, Virginia. The number there, 804-261-1044. Bradley's family in Virginia has offered a $250,000 reward for her return.

In our CNN "Security Watch," there's word of several terror- related arrests in northern California. The FBI says one of the suspects trained in an al Qaeda camp to kill Americans.

CNN's Chris Lawrence joins us. He is live in Lodi, California, with more.

Chris, good morning.

CHRIS LAWRENCE, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Good morning, Daryn.

FBI and federal agents have arrested two U.S. citizens, Umer Hayat, and his son, Hamid Hayat. They've also searched this house behind me yesterday and raided several other locations in the Lodi area, including several homes and a mosque. But the federal criminal complaint shows that this investigation began more than a week ago, when Hamid Hayat was on a flight from Pakistan to San Francisco.

That flight was detained because Hamid Hayat is on the no-fly list. He was allowed to enter the country, but that's where FBI agents started to question him. They say Hamid Hayat eventually admitted that he attended an al Qaeda training camp in Pakistan and later described that camp as a place where he was taught how to kill Americans, saying that he received instruction in weapons and explosives, and that there were sessions where photos of President George W. Bush were pasted onto targets that the trainees were then ordered to shoot at.

Now, the court documents also showed that Hamid Hayat's primary targets were going to be hospitals and grocery stores here in the northern California area. His father, Umer Hayat, allegedly paid for his trip to Pakistan and also gave him an allowance while he was in training -- Daryn.

KAGAN: So, Chris, that's two of the arrests. But we're reporting there have been four arrests. What about the other two?

LAWRENCE: That's right. The other two have been detained on immigration violations. They are imams, or spiritual leaders of a local mosque. And just within the last hour or so, we saw a car pull up right here at this house behind us.

One of the wives of one of the men got out and went inside. And one of the men who had dropped her off stopped briefly to speak with us. He said he was surprised by these -- by these charges and these accusations against the man, and said that just because someone is Muslim does not necessarily make them a terrorist.

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

RAMZAN ALI, NEIGHBOR: We are very, very confident that they will be cleared, because we know (INAUDIBLE) has been here for a few years. You know, like three or four years. And since he's been here, he's very involved with the community, not only Muslim community, he had a relationship (INAUDIBLE) Christian, Jews and all the neighbors. He had a very good relationship.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

LAWRENCE: Yes, he went on to tell us that he has never seen anything illegal going on at this house, that in fact it was being prepared to become an Islamic charter school for young children.

Just in the last few minutes, a representative from the Islamic society showed up here. So we hope to be able to talk to him to perhaps get some more insight into who these men were and their relationship with the community and keep you updated throughout the day right here on CNN -- Daryn.

KAGAN: Chris Lawrence, live from Lodi, California. Thank you.

To Florida now, where a man there who was charged with conspiring to help al Qaeda was due in court last hour. Rafiq Sabir was to appear at a detention hearing in Fort Pierce, Florida. Authorities say Sabir allegedly agreed to provide medical aid to wounded jihadist fighters in Saudi Arabia.

The Patriot Act is the subject of a hearing as we look at live pictures from Capitol Hill. This is a House committee this morning. It comes a day after the Senate Intelligence Committee voted to expand the FBI powers under the Patriot Act. The agency would have greater authority to subpoena records in terrorism investigations. Portions of the Patriot Act will expire at the end of the year unless Congress renews them.

The Pentagon is putting its emergency procedures to test today. A drill that's dubbed Gallant Fox 3 (ph) got under way in the last hour. The exercise includes evacuation of parts of the Pentagon complex ands the use of noise simulation devices. First responders from local fire, police and rescue units are also involved.

A former president says, shut it down. Jimmy Carter says reports of abuse at Guantanamo Bay are a blow to America's reputation. And he says the prison for terror suspects should be closed. He spoke after a two-day human rights conference in Atlanta.

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

JAMES CARTER, FMR. PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES: I think at this point it would not be possible, as I said in my remarks, to close down Guantanamo immediately. It would have to be phased out over a period of time.

There have been a lot of people, and now there are about 520 people at Guantanamo. And I think that all of those should be given a trial. As a matter of fact, one thing that concerns me is the secretary of defense has publicly announced that if these people are tried and found innocent, they will not be released. This is not the way to treat people.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

KAGAN: Still, Carter says Amnesty International should not have called Guantanamo "the gulag of our time." He says it's not like a Soviet prison camp.

CNN "Security Watch" keeps you up to date on safety. Say tuned day and night for the most reliable news about your security.

And now the fight for Iraq and the latest violence there. A suicide car bomb exploded at a gas station in Baquba this morning. Three civilians were killed and one wounded.

Three U.S. soldiers have died in two insurgent attacks in Tikrit, the hometown of Saddam Hussein. Earlier today, a roadside bomb killed an American soldier on patrol. Last night, two soldiers with the 42nd Infantry Division died in an attack on their coalition base.

The military is investigating a clash between U.S. Marines and employees of a security firm in Iraq. The security contractors are accused of firing on Marine positions.

Pentagon Correspondent Barbara Starr has details for us.

Barbara, good morning.

BARBARA STARR, CNN PENTAGON CORRESPONDENT: Good morning to you, Daryn.

Well, details of this incident between the Marines and the U.S. contractors now just coming to light. It was Saturday, May 28, when the Marines in Falluja forcibly detained 16 American contractors and three Iraqis. The Marines said they witnessed the contractors driving through the town in their sport utility vehicles and firing on civilian cars, and then coming back and firing on a Marine observation post.

Nobody was injured, but the Marines took this very seriously and moved in on the contractors. Those contractors, 16 Americans, handcuffed, laid on the ground, searched and put into a military detention facility in Falluja for two-and-a-half days. The Marines are disputing any notion that the contractors were mistreated, but a Marine spokesman tells CNN they fired on U.S. troops and the U.S. troops moved in, taking the matter very seriously.

The Marines say that these men have been identified as working for a company called Zapata Engineering out of North Carolina. So far, we've tried to reach the company. No comment from them, but the Marines say an investigation is under way. They're trying to figure out what exactly these contractors were up to, but the Marines say they were justified that these contractors were driving through the town shooting -- Daryn.

KAGAN: Kind of surprising that we don't see more conflicts between people who aren't officially for the military and -- between contractors and military people over there, Barbara. Or is there more of a defined level of command?

STARR: Well, let's be clear. This is often a very confusing situation.

No front lines, as we all know, in Iraq. Contractors do carry, are authorized in many cases, to carry small arms to defend themselves against the insurgents.

It can be a very complex situation, and it should, of course, be remembered, many contractors, both Americans and others, have been killed in their line of duty in Iraq. But this is one of the reasons that the U.S. troops try and sort these situations out very quickly when they do arise, trying to figure out if people in civilian-clothed shootings are contractors, if they are insurgents, what exactly is going on. So that is part of the investigation, to try and figure out what happened. But these 16 Americans were detained for two-and-a-half days by the Marines in Falluja, and those Marines are making no excuses. They say those contractors were shooting at them -- Daryn.

KAGAN: Barbara Starr, live from the Pentagon. Thank you.

From one prime minister to another, President Bush is meeting with Turkey's prime minister at the White House right now. He was with Tony Blair yesterday. We'll have more on their discussion later in the show.

Also, the medical world is all abuzz over a first infertility treatment. The details are coming up in our "Daily Dose" segment.

And in about 15 minutes, the Michael Jackson jury will start its third day of deliberations. A legal analyst tells us which side is getting a little bit nervous.

(COMMERCIAL BREAK)

(STOCK MARKET REPORT)

(COMMERCIAL BREAK)

KAGAN: In our "Daily Dose" of health news, a newborn girl in Alabama owes her life to medical science and her aunt. The baby's mother wasn't able to conceive until her twin sister donated tissue from her ovary. It's believed to be a first in the U.S.

CNN Medical Correspondent Elizabeth Cohen is here to tell us more.

Good morning. This is happy news.

ELIZABETH COHEN, CNN MEDICAL CORRESPONDENT: Good morning. It is happy news.

KAGAN: Yes.

COHEN: In fact, one of the doctors involved in this called it a miracle. It really is incredible when you consider the story.

Twin sisters, Stephanie Yarber and her twin sister, Melanie Morgan -- you can see them right there -- that's Stephanie...

KAGAN: They're definitely twins.

COHEN: They're definitely twins -- and Melanie Morgan. Stephanie had ovarian failure at age 14 for reasons that they don't -- they just don't know why. So she hadn't had a period in about 10 years.

Her sister, Melanie, though, who you see there, Melanie has three children. So she clearly was very fertile. So what doctors did is they tried IDF and it didn't work, and then in April 2004, they did an ovarian transplant. What they did was they took ovarian tissue from Melanie and they gave it to Stephanie.

And then in July 2004, so just three months later, Stephanie had her first light menstrual cycle. Again, her first period in 10 years.

September 2004, she had her first normal menstrual cycle. October 2004, so just a month later, she had the pregnancy confirmed, and she got pregnant the good old-fashioned way, nothing fancy.

And then in June 2005, just two days ago, a healthy baby girl was born, 7 pounds, 14 ounces. Stephanie called it "a partnership with god, my sister and me."

KAGAN: My question -- I mean, there's lots of questions about this. But first of all, why go to all this trouble? Why not just do egg donation?

COHEN: Right. Egg donation is an option for some women, where you take an egg from someone -- for example, your sister -- and then you mix it with your husband's sperm, and then you do in vitro fertilization. But she had tried that and it didn't work. Some women with very severe fertility problems -- for example, someone who had ovarian failure at age 14 -- even that's not going to work.

KAGAN: Not a good environment. Well, this is excellent news for this young woman. What if you don't have an identical twin sister running around...

COHEN: Right, and there are certainly...

KAGAN: ... and you're having fertility challenges, which so many women are?

COHEN: Exactly. So if you're listening to this and you're thinking, I don't have a twin sister, but I'm having trouble getting pregnant, well, it may not be helpful to you now. In fact, it wouldn't be helpful to you now.

But you can think of it this way: 50 years ago they did the first kidney transplant between identical twin brothers, and really, it was just a matter of years before they figured out how to do it with people who were just regular siblings. And now you don't even have to be related to someone to accept their kidneys.

So science does progress. And it's not inconceivable -- no pun intended...

KAGAN: Very good.

COHEN: ... to think that this couldn't happen between people who are not related in the years to come.

KAGAN: OK. So, biologically, is this new baby the sister's?

COHEN: Oh my goodness. DNA-wise, it's the -- it's -- well, actually, DNA-wise it's both, because they're identical.

KAGAN: Right.

COHEN: But really, biologically, it's the sister's. However, the woman who carried it, Stephanie, she did carry this baby.

KAGAN: Right.

COHEN: So, in fact, you could say this baby has two mommies.

KAGAN: That she does. And one dad.

COHEN: And one dad.

KAGAN: And one dad. And a lot of happy relatives.

COHEN: That's right.

KAGAN: Elizabeth, thank you.

For your "Daily Dose" of health news online, log on to our Web site. You'll find the latest medical stories, special reports and a health library. The address is CNN.com/health.

Sad note today. Broadway will dim its lights tonight in memory of one of its own. Anne Bancroft is being remembered as a consummate actress, a legend of stage and screen.

Bancroft died Monday of cancer. Her agent announced that yesterday. She was 73.

Anne Bancroft had a long list of memorable roles, but she earned a place in pop culture as the seductive Mrs. Robinson in "The Graduate."

Anne Bancroft, here's to you.

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP, "THE GRADUATE")

DUSTIN HOFFMAN, ACTOR, "THE GRADUATE": Mrs. Robinson, you're trying to seduce me.

Aren't you?

(END VIDEO CLIP, "THE GRADUATE")

(COMMERCIAL BREAK)

KAGAN: Weather smorgasbord for you this morning. You want snow, you want scorching temperatures? Rob Marciano has all of it for you.

(WEATHER REPORT)

KAGAN: It's the third day in the Michael Jackson jury deliberations. Is this good or bad for the famous defendant? Our legal analyst Jeffrey Toobin up next with some insight. Live pictures from Santa Maria there for you.

(COMMERCIAL BREAK)

KAGAN: We are coming up on the half-hour. Good morning once again. I'm Daryn Kagan. Here's what's happening "Now in the News."

Federal agents have arrested four northern California men in a terror-related probe. The feds arrested two local Islamic leaders after searching their homes. The other two suspects are a father and a son. Authorities say the son admitted to training in an al Qaeda camp in Pakistan.

An auditor says the FAA is not keeping up with changes in the airline industry and potential new risks. For example, the report says the FAA failed to increase monitoring of all financially troubled carriers. The FAA says the last three years have been the safest period in airline history.

New Jersey's gubernatorial race is shaping up. The primaries were held yesterday.

Democratic Senator Jon Corzine, the man on the left, won the party's nomination. He'll face Republican businessman Doug Forrester in November. Corzine declared his candidacy last year after James McGreevey resigned in a sex scandal.

There's more controversy over a weekly ranking that helps decide which college football teams play for the national championship. ESPN is now pulling out of the poll. The cable network says the ballots shouldn't be a secret. Last year, there was a huge outcry when California lost a chance at a major bowl after falling in the poll.

TO ORDER A VIDEO OF THIS TRANSCRIPT, PLEASE CALL 800-CNN-NEWS OR USE OUR SECURE ONLINE ORDER FORM LOCATED AT www.fdch.com


Aired June 8, 2005 - 10:59   ET
THIS IS A RUSH TRANSCRIPT. THIS COPY MAY NOT BE IN ITS FINAL FORM AND MAY BE UPDATED.
DARYN KAGAN, CNN ANCHOR: Let's take a look at what's happening "Now in the News."
Authorities say a terrorism investigation in Lodi, California, has netted four arrests. A father and son are among the four people in custody. The FBI says the son lied about attending an al Qaeda training camp in Pakistan. Details ahead in a live report.

U.S. and Canadian authorities are facing questions after a man with a chainsaw, a homemade sword and other weapons was allowed to enter the U.S. Oh my. Authorities confiscated the weapons but allowed Gregory Despres to cross a Canadian border into Maine. He was later arrested and charged with murdering two elderly neighbors in Canada.

Justice Janice Rogers Brown is expected to win confirmation to the federal appeals court today. The Senate votes this afternoon. Democrats criticized Brown's view as radical and blocked her nomination for nearly two years. But a deal last month cleared the way for it to move forward.

An Alabama woman is celebrating motherhood and sisterhood. She's given birth to a baby girl after what's being believed to be the first successful ovary transplant in the U.S. Stephanie Yarber became pregnant with the help of ovarian tissue donated by her identical twin sister.

Checking the time, 8:00 a.m. in Santa Maria, California; 11:00 a.m. in Palm Beach, Aruba; and 7:00 p.m. in Baghdad. From CNN Center in Atlanta, good morning. I'm Daryn Kagan.

Up first this hour, a hearing in Aruba for two men arrested in the case of a missing 18-year-old. A judge is deciding whether there's enough evidence to hold the suspects in connection with Natalee Holloway's disappearance.

CNN's Karl Penhaul joins us by phone. He is in Aruba with the latest.

Karl, hello.

KARL PENHAUL, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Daryn, we're outside the courtroom in Oranjestad. That's the capital of Aruba. And so far, those two suspects have not been brought here to appear before a judge. What we understand, because of the media pressure, but also the political pressure on this highly important case, that the judge in fact may travel to two jail cells where the two men are being held to inform them of the decision that he or she is taking as to whether to hold them for a further eight days or not.

What we have seen, though, at the courthouse so far this morning are family and relatives of the two suspects, and we have been talking to one of the suspects by the name of Abraham Jones. We have been talking to his wife. And she has been telling us that on the night that Natalee Holloway disappeared, she went out and partied at a soul festival with her husband, and then later on they went home together.

She also said that he had been sick that night, but that he then got up the following morning before work to go and arrive at a 7:00 shift. And she maintains that her husband is definitely innocent -- Daryn.

KAGAN: All right. Karl Penhaul, live -- well, live on the phone from Aruba. Thank you.

Natalee Holloway's family is not giving up hope that she'll be found alive. Her stepfather says the lack of physical evidence gives them reason to remain positive.

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

GEORGE "JUG" TWITTY, NATALEE HOLLOWAY'S STEPFATHER: I do believe Natalee's alive. And every day that goes by even gives us more hope that Natalee's alive.

The charges, as far as what the defense attorney is saying, I know nothing about that. The authorities here, our liaison with the police department, has said nothing to us about that.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

KAGAN: Twitty says the family is praying and trying to say strong to get through the ordeal.

Natalee Holloway isn't the only American woman reporting missing in Aruba. Twenty-three-year-old Amy Bradley disappeared in 1998 during a family cruise to the Caribbean. Aruba was one of the ship's stops. Amy Bradley was never found.

It you have information, the FBI is asking you to call the office in Richmond, Virginia. The number there, 804-261-1044. Bradley's family in Virginia has offered a $250,000 reward for her return.

In our CNN "Security Watch," there's word of several terror- related arrests in northern California. The FBI says one of the suspects trained in an al Qaeda camp to kill Americans.

CNN's Chris Lawrence joins us. He is live in Lodi, California, with more.

Chris, good morning.

CHRIS LAWRENCE, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Good morning, Daryn.

FBI and federal agents have arrested two U.S. citizens, Umer Hayat, and his son, Hamid Hayat. They've also searched this house behind me yesterday and raided several other locations in the Lodi area, including several homes and a mosque. But the federal criminal complaint shows that this investigation began more than a week ago, when Hamid Hayat was on a flight from Pakistan to San Francisco.

That flight was detained because Hamid Hayat is on the no-fly list. He was allowed to enter the country, but that's where FBI agents started to question him. They say Hamid Hayat eventually admitted that he attended an al Qaeda training camp in Pakistan and later described that camp as a place where he was taught how to kill Americans, saying that he received instruction in weapons and explosives, and that there were sessions where photos of President George W. Bush were pasted onto targets that the trainees were then ordered to shoot at.

Now, the court documents also showed that Hamid Hayat's primary targets were going to be hospitals and grocery stores here in the northern California area. His father, Umer Hayat, allegedly paid for his trip to Pakistan and also gave him an allowance while he was in training -- Daryn.

KAGAN: So, Chris, that's two of the arrests. But we're reporting there have been four arrests. What about the other two?

LAWRENCE: That's right. The other two have been detained on immigration violations. They are imams, or spiritual leaders of a local mosque. And just within the last hour or so, we saw a car pull up right here at this house behind us.

One of the wives of one of the men got out and went inside. And one of the men who had dropped her off stopped briefly to speak with us. He said he was surprised by these -- by these charges and these accusations against the man, and said that just because someone is Muslim does not necessarily make them a terrorist.

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

RAMZAN ALI, NEIGHBOR: We are very, very confident that they will be cleared, because we know (INAUDIBLE) has been here for a few years. You know, like three or four years. And since he's been here, he's very involved with the community, not only Muslim community, he had a relationship (INAUDIBLE) Christian, Jews and all the neighbors. He had a very good relationship.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

LAWRENCE: Yes, he went on to tell us that he has never seen anything illegal going on at this house, that in fact it was being prepared to become an Islamic charter school for young children.

Just in the last few minutes, a representative from the Islamic society showed up here. So we hope to be able to talk to him to perhaps get some more insight into who these men were and their relationship with the community and keep you updated throughout the day right here on CNN -- Daryn.

KAGAN: Chris Lawrence, live from Lodi, California. Thank you.

To Florida now, where a man there who was charged with conspiring to help al Qaeda was due in court last hour. Rafiq Sabir was to appear at a detention hearing in Fort Pierce, Florida. Authorities say Sabir allegedly agreed to provide medical aid to wounded jihadist fighters in Saudi Arabia.

The Patriot Act is the subject of a hearing as we look at live pictures from Capitol Hill. This is a House committee this morning. It comes a day after the Senate Intelligence Committee voted to expand the FBI powers under the Patriot Act. The agency would have greater authority to subpoena records in terrorism investigations. Portions of the Patriot Act will expire at the end of the year unless Congress renews them.

The Pentagon is putting its emergency procedures to test today. A drill that's dubbed Gallant Fox 3 (ph) got under way in the last hour. The exercise includes evacuation of parts of the Pentagon complex ands the use of noise simulation devices. First responders from local fire, police and rescue units are also involved.

A former president says, shut it down. Jimmy Carter says reports of abuse at Guantanamo Bay are a blow to America's reputation. And he says the prison for terror suspects should be closed. He spoke after a two-day human rights conference in Atlanta.

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

JAMES CARTER, FMR. PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES: I think at this point it would not be possible, as I said in my remarks, to close down Guantanamo immediately. It would have to be phased out over a period of time.

There have been a lot of people, and now there are about 520 people at Guantanamo. And I think that all of those should be given a trial. As a matter of fact, one thing that concerns me is the secretary of defense has publicly announced that if these people are tried and found innocent, they will not be released. This is not the way to treat people.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

KAGAN: Still, Carter says Amnesty International should not have called Guantanamo "the gulag of our time." He says it's not like a Soviet prison camp.

CNN "Security Watch" keeps you up to date on safety. Say tuned day and night for the most reliable news about your security.

And now the fight for Iraq and the latest violence there. A suicide car bomb exploded at a gas station in Baquba this morning. Three civilians were killed and one wounded.

Three U.S. soldiers have died in two insurgent attacks in Tikrit, the hometown of Saddam Hussein. Earlier today, a roadside bomb killed an American soldier on patrol. Last night, two soldiers with the 42nd Infantry Division died in an attack on their coalition base.

The military is investigating a clash between U.S. Marines and employees of a security firm in Iraq. The security contractors are accused of firing on Marine positions.

Pentagon Correspondent Barbara Starr has details for us.

Barbara, good morning.

BARBARA STARR, CNN PENTAGON CORRESPONDENT: Good morning to you, Daryn.

Well, details of this incident between the Marines and the U.S. contractors now just coming to light. It was Saturday, May 28, when the Marines in Falluja forcibly detained 16 American contractors and three Iraqis. The Marines said they witnessed the contractors driving through the town in their sport utility vehicles and firing on civilian cars, and then coming back and firing on a Marine observation post.

Nobody was injured, but the Marines took this very seriously and moved in on the contractors. Those contractors, 16 Americans, handcuffed, laid on the ground, searched and put into a military detention facility in Falluja for two-and-a-half days. The Marines are disputing any notion that the contractors were mistreated, but a Marine spokesman tells CNN they fired on U.S. troops and the U.S. troops moved in, taking the matter very seriously.

The Marines say that these men have been identified as working for a company called Zapata Engineering out of North Carolina. So far, we've tried to reach the company. No comment from them, but the Marines say an investigation is under way. They're trying to figure out what exactly these contractors were up to, but the Marines say they were justified that these contractors were driving through the town shooting -- Daryn.

KAGAN: Kind of surprising that we don't see more conflicts between people who aren't officially for the military and -- between contractors and military people over there, Barbara. Or is there more of a defined level of command?

STARR: Well, let's be clear. This is often a very confusing situation.

No front lines, as we all know, in Iraq. Contractors do carry, are authorized in many cases, to carry small arms to defend themselves against the insurgents.

It can be a very complex situation, and it should, of course, be remembered, many contractors, both Americans and others, have been killed in their line of duty in Iraq. But this is one of the reasons that the U.S. troops try and sort these situations out very quickly when they do arise, trying to figure out if people in civilian-clothed shootings are contractors, if they are insurgents, what exactly is going on. So that is part of the investigation, to try and figure out what happened. But these 16 Americans were detained for two-and-a-half days by the Marines in Falluja, and those Marines are making no excuses. They say those contractors were shooting at them -- Daryn.

KAGAN: Barbara Starr, live from the Pentagon. Thank you.

From one prime minister to another, President Bush is meeting with Turkey's prime minister at the White House right now. He was with Tony Blair yesterday. We'll have more on their discussion later in the show.

Also, the medical world is all abuzz over a first infertility treatment. The details are coming up in our "Daily Dose" segment.

And in about 15 minutes, the Michael Jackson jury will start its third day of deliberations. A legal analyst tells us which side is getting a little bit nervous.

(COMMERCIAL BREAK)

(STOCK MARKET REPORT)

(COMMERCIAL BREAK)

KAGAN: In our "Daily Dose" of health news, a newborn girl in Alabama owes her life to medical science and her aunt. The baby's mother wasn't able to conceive until her twin sister donated tissue from her ovary. It's believed to be a first in the U.S.

CNN Medical Correspondent Elizabeth Cohen is here to tell us more.

Good morning. This is happy news.

ELIZABETH COHEN, CNN MEDICAL CORRESPONDENT: Good morning. It is happy news.

KAGAN: Yes.

COHEN: In fact, one of the doctors involved in this called it a miracle. It really is incredible when you consider the story.

Twin sisters, Stephanie Yarber and her twin sister, Melanie Morgan -- you can see them right there -- that's Stephanie...

KAGAN: They're definitely twins.

COHEN: They're definitely twins -- and Melanie Morgan. Stephanie had ovarian failure at age 14 for reasons that they don't -- they just don't know why. So she hadn't had a period in about 10 years.

Her sister, Melanie, though, who you see there, Melanie has three children. So she clearly was very fertile. So what doctors did is they tried IDF and it didn't work, and then in April 2004, they did an ovarian transplant. What they did was they took ovarian tissue from Melanie and they gave it to Stephanie.

And then in July 2004, so just three months later, Stephanie had her first light menstrual cycle. Again, her first period in 10 years.

September 2004, she had her first normal menstrual cycle. October 2004, so just a month later, she had the pregnancy confirmed, and she got pregnant the good old-fashioned way, nothing fancy.

And then in June 2005, just two days ago, a healthy baby girl was born, 7 pounds, 14 ounces. Stephanie called it "a partnership with god, my sister and me."

KAGAN: My question -- I mean, there's lots of questions about this. But first of all, why go to all this trouble? Why not just do egg donation?

COHEN: Right. Egg donation is an option for some women, where you take an egg from someone -- for example, your sister -- and then you mix it with your husband's sperm, and then you do in vitro fertilization. But she had tried that and it didn't work. Some women with very severe fertility problems -- for example, someone who had ovarian failure at age 14 -- even that's not going to work.

KAGAN: Not a good environment. Well, this is excellent news for this young woman. What if you don't have an identical twin sister running around...

COHEN: Right, and there are certainly...

KAGAN: ... and you're having fertility challenges, which so many women are?

COHEN: Exactly. So if you're listening to this and you're thinking, I don't have a twin sister, but I'm having trouble getting pregnant, well, it may not be helpful to you now. In fact, it wouldn't be helpful to you now.

But you can think of it this way: 50 years ago they did the first kidney transplant between identical twin brothers, and really, it was just a matter of years before they figured out how to do it with people who were just regular siblings. And now you don't even have to be related to someone to accept their kidneys.

So science does progress. And it's not inconceivable -- no pun intended...

KAGAN: Very good.

COHEN: ... to think that this couldn't happen between people who are not related in the years to come.

KAGAN: OK. So, biologically, is this new baby the sister's?

COHEN: Oh my goodness. DNA-wise, it's the -- it's -- well, actually, DNA-wise it's both, because they're identical.

KAGAN: Right.

COHEN: But really, biologically, it's the sister's. However, the woman who carried it, Stephanie, she did carry this baby.

KAGAN: Right.

COHEN: So, in fact, you could say this baby has two mommies.

KAGAN: That she does. And one dad.

COHEN: And one dad.

KAGAN: And one dad. And a lot of happy relatives.

COHEN: That's right.

KAGAN: Elizabeth, thank you.

For your "Daily Dose" of health news online, log on to our Web site. You'll find the latest medical stories, special reports and a health library. The address is CNN.com/health.

Sad note today. Broadway will dim its lights tonight in memory of one of its own. Anne Bancroft is being remembered as a consummate actress, a legend of stage and screen.

Bancroft died Monday of cancer. Her agent announced that yesterday. She was 73.

Anne Bancroft had a long list of memorable roles, but she earned a place in pop culture as the seductive Mrs. Robinson in "The Graduate."

Anne Bancroft, here's to you.

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP, "THE GRADUATE")

DUSTIN HOFFMAN, ACTOR, "THE GRADUATE": Mrs. Robinson, you're trying to seduce me.

Aren't you?

(END VIDEO CLIP, "THE GRADUATE")

(COMMERCIAL BREAK)

KAGAN: Weather smorgasbord for you this morning. You want snow, you want scorching temperatures? Rob Marciano has all of it for you.

(WEATHER REPORT)

KAGAN: It's the third day in the Michael Jackson jury deliberations. Is this good or bad for the famous defendant? Our legal analyst Jeffrey Toobin up next with some insight. Live pictures from Santa Maria there for you.

(COMMERCIAL BREAK)

KAGAN: We are coming up on the half-hour. Good morning once again. I'm Daryn Kagan. Here's what's happening "Now in the News."

Federal agents have arrested four northern California men in a terror-related probe. The feds arrested two local Islamic leaders after searching their homes. The other two suspects are a father and a son. Authorities say the son admitted to training in an al Qaeda camp in Pakistan.

An auditor says the FAA is not keeping up with changes in the airline industry and potential new risks. For example, the report says the FAA failed to increase monitoring of all financially troubled carriers. The FAA says the last three years have been the safest period in airline history.

New Jersey's gubernatorial race is shaping up. The primaries were held yesterday.

Democratic Senator Jon Corzine, the man on the left, won the party's nomination. He'll face Republican businessman Doug Forrester in November. Corzine declared his candidacy last year after James McGreevey resigned in a sex scandal.

There's more controversy over a weekly ranking that helps decide which college football teams play for the national championship. ESPN is now pulling out of the poll. The cable network says the ballots shouldn't be a secret. Last year, there was a huge outcry when California lost a chance at a major bowl after falling in the poll.

TO ORDER A VIDEO OF THIS TRANSCRIPT, PLEASE CALL 800-CNN-NEWS OR USE OUR SECURE ONLINE ORDER FORM LOCATED AT www.fdch.com