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Moussaoui Gets Life; Masha's Story; Posse Patrol

Aired May 04, 2006 - 10:59   ET

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DARYN KAGAN, CNN ANCHOR: Defiant until the end. Within the last hour, al Qaeda conspirator Zacarias Moussaoui was formally sentenced to life in prison. And he took one last chance to taunt the court, the country, and the relatives of September 11th victims. They reacted to the sentencing.
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ROSEMARY DILLARD, HUSBAND KILLED ON 9/11: And I think he'll rot in jail. And every day that he misses the sunlight and the freedom, as the judge said, will be a day that -- another day that we win.

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KAGAN: Our justice correspondent, Kelli Arena, was in the courtroom. She joins us live from Alexandria, Virginia.

Kelli, just when you think you've seen it all in this trial, yet another chapter that makes your jaw drop.

KELLI ARENA, CNN JUSTICE CORRESPONDENT: I tell you, it has been truly amazing. That victim family member we just heard from, Rosemary Dillard, was one of the family members who actually confronted Moussaoui face to face in the courtroom today.

She told him that she wanted him to know that he had ruined her life, taken the most important person away from her. And expressing the same sentiment outside of the courtroom as in, she said, "I hope you never see the sun or the sky and that we never hear about you ever again."

At the end of the court session, the judge said to him, you know, "You came here to be a martyr and to die in a big bang of glory, but to paraphrase T. S. Elliott, "You'll die with a whimper."

At this point, when he was leaving the courtroom, Moussaoui said, "I'll be free. I'll be free before the end of George W. Bush." And one other family member, Lisa Dolan (ph), screamed back, "In your dreams!"

This, of course, followed quite a scene in the courtroom, where we heard from victim family members who confronted him, told him that they hope that, you know, he spends the rest of his life in jail, that he never sees the sun, that his cohorts like Osama bin Laden will be caught. Moussaoui responding to those -- to those comments, and he also said, you know, "You..." -- meaning America -- "... think you rule the world. I will prove that you are wrong." "I have nothing more to say because you don't want to hear the truth. You wasted an opportunity for this country to know why people like me and Mohamed Atta have so much hatred. You don't want to hear it, and so we will be back again. If you won't hear, you will feel it."

And then he said, "God curse America. God save Osama bin Laden. You will never get him."

And Daryn, I can tell you that he really does seem to believe that he's not going to spend the rest of his life in prison. When the judge was discussing his sentence, he was shaking his head, you know, no, like that just was not going to happen. You heard what he said when what he leaving the courtroom, that he really believes that George W. Bush will free him.

You know, delusional? I don't know.

KAGAN: Well, I mean, clearly, we saw from what the psychiatrists had to say and how the jury came to the decision to spare his life, there are some mental issues taking place here. But any idea where he even gets that idea from, that he thinks he's going to one day be a free man?

ARENA: He says he had a dream, Daryn. It was in his testimony. He said he had a dream that he was going to be put on a 747 and flown out of Kennedy Airport to London, and that the president, George W. Bush, was going to be the one freeing him.

And he says that he believes his dreams. It's a matter of faith, that he believes that this was, you know, Allah telling him that this was going to happen. And so he is holding firm to that belief.

And that's why I think it was very appropriate when you heard one of the family members say, you know, "In your dreams," literally in his dreams. I mean, that's what he's testified to.

KAGAN: Meanwhile, this judge has given a lot of latitude to Zacarias Moussaoui, letting him represent himself for stretches of time. There have been a lot of outbursts in the court.

ARENA: That's right.

KAGAN: Did you feel the judge reigned him in today?

ARENA: Well, she's reigned him quite a bit all through. I mean, you know, all of those outbursts that we've heard about, Daryn, were never made in front of the jury, they were never made in front of the judge. You know, he always waited until the jury door closed and the judge was gone before he said anything, so that never happened in the court.

There were things that he did not do. He never stood when he was supposed to stand. He didn't swear -- he didn't take an oath before he testified.

There were things that he just absolutely refused to do. And I think that the judge picked her battles with him.

She did allow him to speak today, until there was an objection from one of the prosecutors who said, "Look, this is completely inappropriate. This is not a time for a political statement. This is a time for him to talk about what's appropriate, his sentence."

And the judge agreed and said, "Look, keep your comments limited to what your sentence is." But she also told him, she said, "Look, you know, you're saying you're a winner. You know, that we lost." She said, "Look, you're going to be spending the rest of your life in a super maximum security prison. Everybody else in this courtroom is going to be walking around free."

So, you know, who do you think the winner is?

So she has -- she's held her own in that courtroom. This case, Daryn, as you know, very, very difficult. I mean, there were times when we thought it would just completely fall apart over classified, you know, information issues, over detainee issues.

I mean, so many things that could have just completely derailed this. Just to get to the finish line is an accomplishment.

KAGAN: It's finally over, at least for the trial. Not for Zacarias Moussaoui. He will have his life finished somewhere in Colorado.

Thank you. Kelli Arena.

ARENA: That's right. He's 38 years old at the end of this month, Daryn.

KAGAN: Yes.

ARENA: He's got a long time.

KAGAN: He's got a lot of time to think about -- just to think. Let's just leave it at that.

Kelli Arena live from Alexandria, Virginia.

Thank you for that.

Just in, let's go live to Carol Lin with some breaking news out of California.

CAROL LIN, CNN ANCHOR: Daryn, I want to share with you an L.A. moment. Actually, this is Glendale, California.

Take a look at this picture of this tractor. Or it's a truck rig. It's like a dump truck there.

This was taken earlier. This was driving on a street, as you can see on the left-hand side, and the driver somehow over-corrected. He hit the trees and he over-corrected, and now that dump truck is hanging over the 134 Freeway. That's the major east-west freeway out there that links the San Fernando Valley with the Pasadena-Glendale area.

So, this was a pretty close call, but fortunately, the driver, they were able to get out of the cab of the truck. Nobody was injured. But can you imagine what that must feel like, hanging over the 134? You know how busy that highway is.

KAGAN: Yes, absolutely. That can be a major hassle there in the valley. And that would make a traffic day that that truck driver will never forget. But you said he's OK?

LIN: He's OK. You know, the freeways are backed up, as usual there, Daryn, so anybody who lives there is used to that. But when they drive by on the other side -- this is the southbound lane -- when they drive by on the northbound lane, this is the sight that they're looking at right now.

KAGAN: A Thursday commute they will not forget.

And thanks to KTTV, one of our affiliate there in Los Angeles, for giving us the pictures.

Carol, thank you.

Well, we hear the horrors, but we seldom see the victims. That makes Masha Allen's appearance on Capitol Hill all the more remarkable. She is a 13-year-old survivor. She is also a face of online child pornography.

CNN's Randi Kaye has Masha's story. You might have seen this report on "ANDERSON COOPER 360."

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RANDI KAYE, CNN CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): Her name is Masha Allen, but she wants Congress and the world to know who she used to be.

MASHA ALLEN, CHILD PORN VICTIM: My name is Masha Allen, I'm 13 years old.

KAYE: For years this brave little girl was an unwilling child porn star, one of the most popular dirty downloads for online pedophiles.

DET. SGT. PAUL GILLESPIE, TORONTO POLICE DEPARTMENT: It's horrific abuse of a very young, vulnerable child. And you just -- once you've seen the images and you've seen the collection that this set of pictures is, it really breaks your heart.

KAYE: Her journey began in 1998 when Masha was adopted from a Russian orphanage by this man, Matthew Mancuso. For five years, she was forced to share his bed. Touching led to sex. This is how Masha remembers it.

ALLEN: We left Russia and traveled to his house outside of Pittsburgh. The abuse started the night I got there. Matthew didn't have a bedroom for me. He made me sleep in his bed from the very beginning. He molested me all the time.

KAYE: Investigators say Mancuso adopted Masha solely for his own pleasure. He had her on a strict diet to keep her looking young and lean.

ALLEN: Sometimes he kept me chained in the basement because he didn't want me to grow up. He only let me eat a little bit of food -- plain pasta, raw vegetables, no meat.

KAYE: Like many child porn victims, Masha was a challenge to find. But after studying dozens of photographs, Toronto investigators realized they could erase her from this photograph found online. This way, the crime scene picture could be released to the public without identifying the young victim. And it worked.

Someone recognized the hotel room bedspread from this Disney resort in Orlando. But before Toronto police could solve the case, the FBI did.

(on camera): In 2003, federal agents traced Mancuso from an Internet porn chat room to his home in a rural suburb of Pittsburgh. There they found evidence of child porn and a helpless Masha. Five years after the abuse began, she was finally safe.

(voice-over): Today, Matthew Mancuso is in a prison hospital getting treatment. Masha has a new family. And while she can't do a thing about the hundreds of graphic photos of her that are still traded online around the world, she believes she can do something for others like her, children silently hoping someone will find them.

Randi Kaye, CNN, New York.

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KAGAN: Randi Kaye is part of the team covering the world for "ANDERSON COOPER 360." Tune in weeknights at 10:00 p.m. Eastern.

Ahead, mom and dad go back to class.

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UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: I just got offered a cyber sex chat.

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KAGAN: Parents get an eye-opening lesson in online child predators. Cyber parenting class ahead this hour on LIVE TODAY.

And a tough-talking law man in Maricopa County, Arizona, is in the news again. Sheriff Joe Arpaio made headlines when he made inmates dress in pink underwear. Now he's taking advantage of a new state law to round up illegal immigrants.

He has a posse of volunteers who patrol the desert. He says they've taken more than 100 illegal immigrants into custody so far this year. Arpaio says that he'd rather give them a free ride to jail than a free ride back to Mexico.

Sheriff Joe Arpaio joins me this morning from Phoenix.

Sheriff, good morning. Good to see you.

SHERIFF JOE ARPAIO, MARICOPA COUNTY, ARIZONA: Good morning.

KAGAN: Why is this the job of county government?

ARPAIO: Well, it's a new state law, I'm the elected sheriff. I enforce the law, and I'm going to do it.

We locked up 120 in the last six weeks. I'm the only law enforcement agency in Arizona enforcing that new law.

KAGAN: Which is a good point. The author of the law said you're missing the point here. He meant to go after smugglers of people who are bringing in the immigrants, not to use this law to pick up illegal immigrants themselves.

What do you say to that criticism?

ARPAIO: Well, I've been in drug enforcement for 45 years. There's a law called conspiracy. When these guys conspire, along with the smugglers, just like conspiring with adult (ph) peddler, then can be arrested, too. And I'm doing it. But let's see what the courts say.

KAGAN: And this has been tested in the courts. I want to talk to you about that in a minute.

First, the use of a posse, tell me more about this group of people who are gathering up these immigrants.

ARPAIO: Well, since I've been sheriff 13 years, been building up the posse. We have about 3,000. Under the Constitution, only the sheriff can swear in private citizens.

They're well trained. When they wear the weapons, they're well trained. And they go through background checks.

They are law enforcement officers, not citizens on patrol when I mobilized them. So I've taken advantage again of the posse.

I send them out after prostitutes, deadbeat parents. I can go on and on. Now we're going to use them to lock up the illegal immigrants.

KAGAN: When people outside of Arizona hear "posse," they think Wild Wild West.

ARPAIO: Well, I don't know. They used to go after horse thieves, now we go after car thieves.

We're in a modern world. So nothing has changed. And I'm going to use that volunteer force. They pay for everything. Taxpayers say $12 million a year. So why not use private citizens? I'm going to do it again, and we're going to lock up these people that come into this county.

KAGAN: Many of your critics, those supporting immigrant rights, say this is just a political prank and this is just going to stir up bad feelings.

What do you say to that?

ARPAIO: You know, I've got 80 percent approval rating. I'm not running for anything. I can get elected on pink underwear. I don't have to do this.

So no, it's not for politics. I'm doing what I should do as the elected sheriff, is enforce the law.

I do have compassion for the Mexican people. At least I'm one politician that knows where Mexico is, since I was a director there for four years with the U.S. drug enforcement.

So I know Mexico. I have compassion. But don't come into this county and violate the law. You're going directly to jail, not back to the border.

KAGAN: Back to a point that you were just making a couple minutes ago, this has not been tested in court yet. When will it and how do you think that will go?

ARPAIO: Well, I don't know. I'm going to still do my job. I'll put a thousand in the tents if I have to. It's not going to bother me. Let's see what the courts say. In the meantime, anybody that comes into Maricopa County, illegals, are going to be locked up.

KAGAN: And for those not familiar with Arizona, we should say Maricopa is the home of Phoenix, the largest city in Arizona.

How does this work? So, the posse finds what they think are illegal immigrants, you bring them in. Are they staying in these tent jails until this is tested in court, or are they brought in, booked and let go?

ARPAIO: No, no, I don't let them go. They're in the hard facilities that I run. I only put convicted people in the tents, 2,000 of them.

KAGAN: OK.

ARPAIO: So, no, they're staying there. They're criminals.

They can get one and a half to three years. It's a felony under the new law, not a misdemeanor. And the county attorney came up with an opinion, and I'm glad he did, but let's see what the courts say.

KAGAN: All right. Sheriff Joe Arpaio joining us from Phoenix. Thank you, Sheriff.

ARPAIO: Thank you.

KAGAN: We'll be tracking it. Thank you.

Now we're going live to Boston. These are other family members reacting to the sentence for Zacarias Moussaoui.

CARIE LEMACK, LOST FAMILY MEMBER ON 9/11: And so I think that while this man is despicable and he's evil, that his actions did not merit capital punishment. And they let justice do its work.

Thank you.

ELIZABETH HAYDEN, LOST FAMILY MEMBER ON 9/11: Hi. My name is Elizabeth Hayden, H-A-Y-D-E-N. My husband James was on United 175.

Similar to the others, I think we all have to express the idea of how grateful we are and to the many, many people that we are grateful to: the judge, the prosecution, and the defense team, and the jury. We're very thankful for the support we've had here at the federal courthouse, and the mass 9/11 fund.

But I think one of the larger group of people who sometimes aren't thanked are the, you know, everyday people across America. From September 11th to this day, there are people that I come across who, you know, when they hear I'm a 9/11 person, extend their sympathy. They feel bonded with us.

We are extremely fortunate to live in this country. We have a government of the people, by the people, for the people. And that can only happen when individual Americans stand up, stand up and believe in the work that they do, in the truths that our country is founded upon. It's really important that individuals can make a difference.

The jury did its job. They listened carefully to the evidence and they came up with a verdict.

Among the families, there's a wide range of opinion. We are all individuals. But it's very important that we come together to recognize all that we have to be thankful for, and we'd like to thank those people.

Thank you.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Hi. My name is Peg Oganowski (ph). My husband John was the captain of American Airlines Flight 11, which was flown into the north tower.

I just wanted to say I think that justice has been done today, that I hope that everyone will remember the victims of 9/11 and for all the good work they did for the -- for the good works they produced for what they built, what they grew for their families, and that we can now for get Zacarias Moussaoui, a man who has produced nothing. He should be put away and forgotten. I believe that's what will happen to him now.

And we are all thankful for the opportunity to see this trial from Boston, not to have to travel to Washington. And we're thankful for the support of Massachusetts 9/11 and other agencies who have been here to hold our hands through this.

Thank you.

QUESTION: (INAUDIBLE)

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: OK. I wanted to say that we were all very thankful for the opportunity to view the trial from Boston, as opposed to having to disrupt our lives and go down to Washington. And we are all very, very thankful for the support of local agencies like Massachusetts 9/11 fund, which have been here all along to support us and hold our hand through this difficult process.

Thank you.

KAGAN: We've been listening into more family members as they react to the formal sentencing this morning of al Qaeda conspirator Zacarias Moussaoui, who will spend the rest of his life in jail. He escaped the death penalty.

As you heard that woman make reference to, that many family members were able to go to satellite areas like Boston and watch the trial unfold on closed-circuit television.

More on that story ahead.

Also, we have two developing stories, and Carol Lin has details on both of those -- Carol.

LIN: All right, Daryn.

Well, it looks like transportation day. That's what the news is on the breaking news desk.

We talked about a truck hanging over a California freeway. This time I want to tell you about a helicopter that went down in a high school. All right? In a high school parking lot, it appears.

The Kings Park High School in Suffolk County, that's on Long Island. The parking lot -- it went down and nobody was injured. The pilot wasn't hurt, none of the students were hurt.

We're still working on this story to find out what happened there this morning.

There you go, a map of where it actually happened. So we're working on that story right now.

Also, Daryn, take a look at these dramatic pictures out of the Miami-Dade area. Firefighters on the scene of what we know to be a huge house fire. But this clearly was fully involved. You can see some of the black smoke. It's still burning pretty intensely, but firefighters on the scene there in Miami-Dade.

KAGAN: Meanwhile, any new information on that big rig that we saw over the side of the freeway in Glendale, California?

LIN: We've got to show people these pictures again, Daryn, because I've never seen anything like this. I grew up in southern California.

And here it is, a dump truck on its way to who knows where, driving along Glendale Avenue. This is in the central part of Los Angeles and the Glendale area, basically the same area. And the driver apparently -- something happened.

He hit the trees, and then he tried to over-correct, and then look. It ended up hanging over the 134 Freeway, which is a huge freeway out there. It's the major artery between the San Fernando valley and downtown Los Angeles.

They're just beginning to pull this dump truck off the wall. That's a retaining wall just above the highway.

But commuters -- this is in the southbound lane. Commuters in the northbound lane, this is the sight that they were treated to. And once again, nobody hurt.

They managed to pull the truck driver out of the cab of the truck. He wasn't hurt. And none of the drivers down below. I mean, even if it didn't hit somebody, Daryn, can you imagine, you're on your morning commute and suddenly you see a giant dump truck coming over the retaining wall of the freeway?

KAGAN: Yes. The only thing that got hurt, the commute.

LIN: There you go, because traffic's backed up on the Interstate 5 Freeway. Everybody knows that's the north-south route there. And again, this is, you know, pretty close to downtown Los Angeles. So all those commuters were affected this morning.

KAGAN: Carol, I understand we're getting some new live pictures in of the helicopter you were talking about.

LIN: OK.

KAGAN: So tell us again. This is live pictures, this is New York.

LIN: Yes, what you're looking at, the Long Island area. This is the parking lot of Kings Park High School. And that's a helicopter that went down this morning.

We don't know what happened. We were just getting some early information and knew that these pictures were coming in. But again, nobody hurt. The pilot's not hurt, none of the students were hurt.

So, actually, quite remarkable. And if you can see there, it almost looks like the helicopter is either on its side -- it doesn't look like it is upright right now. But we just know that it went down. Now, the banner there is saying that it crashed into the school parking lot.

KAGAN: That looks like a field more.

LIN: Yes, it does look like a field. So, early information, but we got these pictures for you because, once again, you appreciate the day when nobody gets hurt. We can report these pictures to you, and, you know, count your lucky stars our there in Long Island.

KAGAN: A lot of transportation angels looking over some dangerous situations.

LIN: Coast to coast.

KAGAN: Absolutely. And you have all of it for us. Carol, thank you.

LIN: Sure.

KAGAN: A grandmother's tearful apology.

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KATHLEEN PAVONE-GRUELLE, CONFESSED BANK ROBBER: And I'm sorry with every fiber of my being for the pain I've brought to so many lives.

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KAGAN: Saying I'm sorry for a bank holdup. You'll be surprised to hear why this grandma says she did it. That's ahead.

And a dad's failing health and the toll it took on his famous son.

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TIGER WOODS, GOLFER: Every year that I've been lucky enough to have won this tournament, my dad's been there to give me a hug. And he wasn't there today. I can't wait to get home and see him, to give him a big bear hug.

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KAGAN: Earl Woods' battle is over. His legacy is ahead.

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KAGAN: Grandma robs a bank, threatens to blow it up, and makes off with the loot. You just can't make this stuff up, folks.

Reporter Chris Thompson (ph) of our affiliate KIRO in Seattle has details from court.

(BEGIN VIDEOTAPE) PAVONE-GRUELLE: I swear, I never set out to do anything other than laundry. I did not plot or plan to commit such a crime.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE (voice over): Kathleen Pavone-Gruelle told the judge she never had any intention of robbing the Timberland (ph) bank in the quiet town of town of Winrock (ph).

PAVONE-GRUELLE: I would never do harm to anyone, nor would I want to cause fear. It's just not who I am.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: But she now admits she's the person in the surveillance video, handing tellers a note saying there was a bomb in the bank wired to explode.

ANDREW TOYNBEE, DEPUTY PROSECUTOR: She may be somewhat of a small, non-threatening looking person, but to them in the bank, her threat was very convincing and they took it very seriously.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Pavone-Gruelle got a bag of cash, but was captured right across the street, changing clothes in an alcove. Her arrest a big shock in the small town.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Yes, a grandma. Can you imagine?

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: She has trouble driving. She has trouble just getting around.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: In court, Pavone-Gruelle said she suffers from multiple medical problems, and the skyrocketing cost of her prescriptions contributed to her crime.

PAVONE-GRUELLE: Unfortunately, I could not afford to pay for my prescriptions.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: And moments before being sentenced, she offered an apology.

PAVONE-GRUELLE: And I'm sorry with every fiber of my being for the pain I've brought to so many lives.

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KAGAN: And you can add another to the gallery of costume bank robbers. How about this guy? He hoped to avoid detection by donning a fireman's hat and jacket. The FBI says he held up a Boston bank, a tipped to Crime Stoppers.

You probably won't find the suspect in a firehouse. The feds say he dumped the outfit in a trash can.

High gas prices are making hybrid cars a more attractive option for some people.

Susan Lisovicz joins us from the New York Stock Exchange with more on that.

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KAGAN: Mom and dad go back to class. Parents get an eye-opening lesson in online child predators. Cyber parenting class when LIVE TODAY continues.

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KAGAN: Tiger woods says his dad was his greatest role model, his best friend. Earl Woods passed away at his California home on Wednesday. He was a groundbreaking athlete in his own right, a war hero, most of all, a father.

Here now, CNN's Larry Smith.

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LARRY SMITH, CNN CORRESPONDENT, (voice over): Earl Woods was the rock upon which Tiger Woods built his career. From the age of two, when the nation first got a glimpse of Tiger on "The Mike Douglas Show," Earl Woods knew his son was destined for greatness.

EARL WOODS: I saw the total package. I saw his intelligence. I saw his personality. I saw his creativity. I saw his athleticism. I saw his ability to learn so fast and rapidly and his desire, his competitiveness. He had all that stuff when he was two.

SMITH: And it was with that knowledge and belief that Earl Woods dedicated himself to turning Tiger into a golfing prodigy. The elder Woods was an athlete in his own right as a scholarship baseball player for Kansas State University. He was also the first African-American to play baseball in the former Big 8 Conference.

Upon graduating in 1953, Earl joined the Army and did two tours of duty in Vietnam with the Green Berets. He used his military training to toughen up Tiger physically and mentally. Once a fixture at Tiger's tournaments, Earl Woods became less and less visible as Tiger's career progressed and his own health declined. The effect his absence had on Tiger came into full view during the trophy presentation for Tiger's fourth Masters title in 2005.

TIGER WOODS: Every year that I've been lucky enough to have won this tournament my dad's been there to give me a hug. And he wasn't there today. I can't wait to get home and see him. To give him a big bear hug.

EARL WOODS: Yes, when I talk about Tiger, sometimes I do get emotional. That's the deep personal love that we have for each other, the respect and trust that we have, and we earned it. It's just a bond.

SMITH: It was a bond that helped turn Tiger Woods into the best golfer in the world.

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KAGAN: Services for Earl Woods are scheduled for tomorrow in Southern California.

Thirty-four minutes past the hour. We are still whale watching, and we're watching the ailing beluga at the Georgia Aquarium, who is still struggling. A bunch of veterinary technicians are caring for Gasper the whale. He reportedly is swimming, but slowly, and blowing air bubbles, but not chasing them as he usually likes to do. One vet says he remains in critical condition. The 17-year-old beluga is suffering from a rare bone infection. The condition is not contagious, but Gasper remains isolated in an 80,000-gallon tank while he is undergoing treatment.

It's always exciting when your doctor shares this kind of baby news.

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UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Went to the doctor's when I found out I was pregnant, and I was only supposed to have one, and then I went back to the doctors for another ultrasound, they told me it was twins.

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KAGAN: But hold on, mom, that's not all. You're taking triplets home, (INAUDIBLE) your other triplets. LIVE TODAY dealing a full house just ahead.

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KAGAN: Ah, the old days, parents worried about their kids when they left home. Today parents worry when the kids are at home. The Internet can be a dangerous place. Now a program may give parents a head's up.

CNN's Dan Lothian has details. His story aired on CNN's AMERICAN MORNING.

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KATIE LECLERC, INTERNET SAVVY: Unbelievable the things that these kids are getting into online.

DAN LOTHIAN, CNN BOSTON BUREAU CHIEF (voice over): Katie Leclerc is an Internet savvy 23-year-old holding the hands of parents as they take an eye-opening excursion through cyberspace.

LECLERC: So you can really know what's going on.

I don't take it lightly. It's not -- I do say I'm not trying to scare you but it's scary out there. So I'm honest.

LOTHIAN: With the explosion of social networking sites like myspace and growing concerns over online predators, more and more communities in places like Massachusetts and Florida are finding that parents, not just children, need to be educated.

ERIC WALTON, COMPUTER FORENSIC ANALYST: We want them to be as comfortable as they can be in order to be able to help their kids.

LOTHIAN: Walton is part of a team training parents in Florida. Leclerc works for the Massachusetts Attorney General's Office.

TOM REILLY, MASSACHUSETTS ATTORNEY GENERAL: We had some cases and then we decided, you know, we better start some education here.

LOTHIAN: So Leclerc was hired full time to crisscross the state, offering more than just tips and talking points. She logs on to live chat rooms, poses as a 14-year-old blond girl with blue eyes and shows these Massachusetts parents how easy it is for chatter to turn dark and potentially dangerous.

LECLERC: See, I just got offered a cyber-sex chat.

LOTHIAN: Then comes this offer.

LECLERC: Any sexy, petite blond or brunette females under 21 want to make a sexy 20-year-old male feel better? I'm really stressed out.

LOTHIAN: Leclerc then goes back and for instant messaging a 20- year-old male who jokes he doesn't mind that she's 14.

REILLY: And we show them and they realize what their children have access to.

MARYANNE ELLIS, MOTHER OF TEENAGER: It was wild.

LOTHIAN: MaryAnne Ellis, a mom, says she now understands the potential online dangers facing her 17-year-old daughter and others like her.

ELLIS: All her friends have her pictures from a prom on the Internet and they can be tapped into in various places and it's out of your control.

LOTHIAN: This effort isn't aimed at pulling the plug on the Internet or myspace, just the tool to help parents make good decisions and ask their children the right questions.

LECLERC: What are you doing? Who are you're friends? What are you using? Show me how to use it.

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KAGAN: Soledad O'Brien and Miles O'Brien keep a close eye on issues important to parents. CNN's "AMERICAN MORNING" weekdays from 6:00 to 10:00 Eastern.

And we are -- we will always have Paris, we can say that, but just not on "American Idol." Some "Idol" moments coming up, with our "Coffee Talk" on CNN LIVE TODAY.

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RYAN SEACREST, HOST, "AMERICAN IDOL": America voted. Paris and Elliott. And Elliott, you may sit down. You are safe.

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KAGAN: It is bon voyage, Paris. A tiny soul singer with a giant voice, Paris Bennett is voted off "American Idol." Headline News entertainment correspondent Adrianna Costa joining me now for our "Coffee Talk."

ADRIANNA COSTA, CNN HEADLINE NEWS ENTERTAINMENT CORRESPONDENT: Our "Coffee Talk." Good morning to you!

KAGAN: It's that time of week when we toast our "Idol" moment.

COSTA: I always look forward to this.

KAGAN: Yes, we do. You know, we talked earlier, I'm not surprised by Paris.

COSTA: I don't think anybody really was. You know, she's been in the bottom two and the bottom three a few times at this point. It was her week to go. Now, what's ironic about it is that this week was probably her best performance round ever. She sang "Kiss" by Prince, she had the Mary J. Blige song, which you're hearing right here. Unbelievable performance.

KAGAN: My theory is that her talent is just too big for "American Idol." She will be fine. She will grow into her huge voice. She's only 17 years old.

COSTA: She's got a big contract probably coming to her, I'm sure.

KAGAN: Absolutely. She's going to be a big star. Now Elliott, in the bottom two. Do you think he might be the next to go?

COSTA: I think it's debatable. I think that -- I know you guys are going to hate me out there, but it's between him and Katherine, OK? Pretty much Taylor's safe and Chris Daughtry are safe. Now, the other two theories that you could look at. The probability is at this point, it's a guy's win, because there are three guys and only one girl.

KAGAN: On the other hand...

COSTA: However, Katherine now doesn't have to split the girl vote.

KAGAN: She's the only girl left!

COSTA: And so if you want a girl singer to win, or you just think the girls are better, well, then all your votes are probably going to go to Katherine and she'll have a boost, probably have a boost. And what was this all about? I mean it was hot, don't get me wrong, but she's definitely using her sexuality to her advantage.

KAGAN: Yes, that would be a nice way of putting that. At some point I would like to see her stand up.

COSTA: Yes, I know. I'm not going to even go there.

KAGAN: It is a family show. Taylor is the only one left now who has not been in the bottom two or three.

COSTA: And you know what? I think he doesn't need to be there.

KAGAN: Really?

COSTA: He's amazing. This Beatles performance, I almost died. I was sitting there like, I love you, I just do. And, you know what, it was a brilliant performance. He hasn't been in the bottom two, bottom three, and you know what? I think he will take it until to the end. Whether he's going to be the winner or not, that's debatable.

KAGAN: You think he's at least final two.

COSTA: Final two, absolutely.

KAGAN: That leaves us with Chris, the rocker, the bald rocker who shaved his eyebrows.

COSTA: Wait, and now he's wearing eyeliner! Did you guys notice that?

KAGAN: No, eyeliner started a few weeks ago.

COSTA: I know, but I saw it, oh -- did you see the fire scene going on? That was really cheesy.

KAGAN: But the eyebrows are getting smaller every week. It's like a waxing moment or something. But, you know, a big rocker, a lot of fans, the voice a little shaky this week, though. He might be starting to show the strain.

COSTA: You know, possibly, but he still brings it every time. Truly, and you guys can mark my word on this one, it's between him and Taylor.

KAGAN: You think him and Taylor? I think in the end -- this is not my particular vote -- but I think in the end it will be between him -- it will be between Chris and Katharine.

COSTA: OK, that's fair. We'll have to see.

KAGAN: We'll see you. Come back, we'll talk. Very good.

COSTA: I just told them to hold my words.

KAGAN: They're off to Memphis, meanwhile.

COSTA: They're off to Memphis next week in a private jet. KAGAN: Hello!

COSTA: Hello! Can we say star treatment? So the four contestants left going to Memphis to sing what else, Elvis songs. Of course, Graceland there and all. I want to see somebody sing "Little Sister." Little sister, don't you kiss me once or twice. Are those the lyrics? Anyway, I love that song. Also "Suspicious Minds," could you imagine that one? Taylor Hicks belting that out?

KAGAN: "Heartbreak Hotel."

COSTA: "Heartbreak Hotel." "A Little Less Conversation."

KAGAN: We can go on and on. We'll have to stay tuned next week, and we'll see again who gets voted off.

COSTA: And then they have Tommy Mottola as the guest judge, you know.

KAGAN: That's right. Who made Mariah Carey, and now who's he married to?

COSTA: Paulina Rubio. Is that right, you guys? No? I'm sorry, I'll get back on that one.

KAGAN: A Mexican singer. Anyway, he's a star-maker.

COSTA: He is a star-maker, and a heartbreaker.

KAGAN: There we go. Adrianna, thank you.

COSTA: Thank you so much, Daryn.

KAGAN: And you can see more of Adrianna every weekday morning on "Robin and Company," 6:00 to 10:00 a.m. on our sister network, CNN Headline News.

You're going to meet a new mom and dad who are down for the count. One, two, three, four, five, six babies adding up. Oh, look at that face! Two, not one, two sets of triplets for a Jersey couple. Meet the brood, just ahead.

And she's a scale buster. I'll tell you about Olivia's big arrival. Oh, this isn't one of the triplets. I thought she was too big to be a triplet. No, this is another baby story.

COSTA: That is a big baby.

KAGAN: Huge! Yes, that is a big baby. Just ahead.

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KAGAN: A New Jersey mom and dad are headed for a full house. One set of triplets at home in diapers now, and here comes another threesome arriving at the hospital.

John Klekamp does the introductions. He's affiliate news 12 in New Jersey.

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JOHN KLEKAMP (ph), NEWS 12 REPORTER (voice-over): David, Dillon (ph), Danielle (ph), this is Evan, and Eric and Alissa (ph), your newborn baby brothers and sister. They're here in St. Peter's neonatal intensive care unit in New Brunswick just like you were after you were two years ago. That's because just like you, they came into this world a little early.

DR. MARK HIATT, ST. PETER'S UNIV. HOSPITAL: A full-term pregnancy is 40 weeks, and these children were born nine-and-a-half weeks early. We're very pleased. They're a couple days old and, they're doing great.

KLEKAMP: Now you'd think after you three, Rich and Sharon Fontana, mom and dad to you, would have this triplet thing down.

SHARON FONTANA, MOTHER TO TWO SETS OF TRIPLETS: I can't imagine six of them. calling me mommy.

KLEKAMP (on camera): What do you think is going to be the greatest challenge?

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Sleep.

KLEKAMP (voice-over): One reason the six of you are such a big deal is because it's so rare for parents to have one set of triplets followed by another.

HIATT: It's unusual. Given the information that the parents presented to us, we were quite surprised.

KLEKAMP: Mom admits using fertility drugs the first time around, when you were conceived, but not this time, just medicine to keep her cycles regular. And it seems every time your mom went to the doctor, the doctor found another baby.

FONTANA: I went to the doctor's when I found out I was pregnant and I was only supposed to have one, and then I went back to the doctor's for another ultrasound, they told me it was twins. And then all of a sudden, I fell down the stairs and I had to stop in and get checked out, and there was three. So they said they must have found something in place, because now there's three.

KLEKAMP: Evan, Eric and Alissa will get to go home in a month, where David, Dillon and Danielle are anxious to meet them.

In New Brunswick, I'm John Klekamp, News 12 New Jersey.

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KAGAN: Thank you, John.

OK, let's just clarify one thing. You heard in that report and also on AMERICAN MORNING they reported that this set of triplets were conceived without fertility drugs. Well, turns out that was not the case. Fertility drugs were involved for both sets of triplets, and CNN regrets that error.

And then there is Olivia. She is the big talk today, and we're talking big talk, in Sacramento. Well, you'd be crying too if you came into the world at a whopping 14 pounds. And get this, Olivia's a preemie. That's right, she was born about a month before her expected arrival. Doctors say if she hadn't come early, she would have been a 16-pounder if she had gone full-term. Mothers around America going, no thank you!

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KAGAN: We have breaking news out of Florida and a shooting incident with multiple victims. Here's Carol Lin -- Carol.

CAROL LIN, CNN ANCHOR: That's right, Daryn, three people shot at the Fernandina Beach Hospital. This is just outside of Jacksonville, Florida. Local reports say that the gunman then ran into a grade school and shot himself. Fortunately, none of the students were injured. This happened at about 11:00 a.m. Eastern, and this is one of many stories that we will be working on today -- Daryn.

KAGAN: All right, Carol, thank you for that. We'll have more as information becomes available out of Florida.

That's wraps up this hour. I'm Daryn Kagan. International news is coming up next. Stay tuned for "YOUR WORLD TODAY," and then I'll be back right here with the latest headlines from the U.S. in about 20 minutes.

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