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Surviving Sweeps
Aired May 12, 2003 - 07:51 ET
THIS IS A RUSH TRANSCRIPT. THIS COPY MAY NOT BE IN ITS FINAL FORM AND MAY BE UPDATED.
THIS IS A RUSH TRANSCRIPT. THIS COPY MAY NOT BE IN ITS FINAL FORM AND MAY BE UPDATED.
(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: The winner of "Survivor: Amazon."
(END VIDEO CLIP)
DARYN KAGAN, CNN ANCHOR: She didn't just win; it was a landslide. She is the "Survivor," and a newly-minted millionaire; 21- year-old swimsuit model Jenna Morasca is the youngest winner in the show's sixth season. Last night "Survivor: Amazon" finale was among the highlights of the May sweeps period.
Here with her take on "Survivor" mania, as well as sweeps reality check, TV deputy editor, Lisa Bernhard.
Lisa, good to see you in person.
LISA BERNHARD, DEPUTY EDITOR, "TV GUIDE": Hi, Daryn. How are you?
KAGAN: Well, so, you have a 21-year-old swimsuit model who did barely any work, admitted that she...
BERNHARD: I know.
KAGAN: ... is a spoiled brat, walking away with a million bucks.
BERNHARD: Jenna, don't hate me, because I'm beautiful.
KAGAN: Exactly.
BERNHARD: Here I am with a million. I know, she complained a lot. She was sick. But when the chips were down, she pulled through on those immunity challenges. I'll tell you, "Survivor" is a great show. It's still -- the reason why it's still in the 60s then -- I mean, it's a well-produced show. There are always surprises. It was great. I loved it.
KAGAN: I think the best moment of last night's finale was when the hearing-impaired contestant faced down with Jenna, and said, now, really, did you really say that being beautiful is a handicap?
BERNHARD: I know. I saw it. Oh, god, that could be the nail in the coffin right there, but she pulled through.
KAGAN: And she even got her vote...
BERNHARD: She did. Amazing.
KAGAN: ... as well. Incredible.
OK, let's talk about some other reality TV finales -- really not about finales, but crescendos that are coming up.
BERNHARD: Right.
KAGAN: "American Idol." This one is getting down to the wire.
BERNHARD: Absolutely. And this one, you know, the viewership builds, because you don't necessary -- you know, you would have had to have watched throughout. So, I think it's this is a finale...
KAGAN: And there is poor Josh. He's gone.
BERNHARD: He's gone.
KAGAN: You know, that's old face.
BERNHARD: He's dust. He's dust. I think it's really probably going to come down to what we were saying before, you and I, at the break...
KAGAN: We were having a little battle of our own, weren't we?
BERNHARD: ... Clay -- a little debate. Clay -- you like Rubin I know. I think Clay has a fantastic voice. It's exciting, it's good stuff. We're hooked.
KAGAN: And May 21, is that when they crown the new "American Idol" for that?
BERNHARD: Yes, May 21, yes.
KAGAN: OK, let's move on to other things non-reality. "Three's Company," the reunion movie, how has it gone this long without this?
BERNHARD: I dont understand. You know, I think there really have been the real people. There have been other specials before. We needed to see now a dramatization. You know, I think it's probably an actor's dream: let me play Joyce Dewitt as she was on "Three's Company."
KAGAN: Well...
BERNHARD: There is more I need to know (UNINTELLIGIBLE) behind the scenes.
KAGAN: And if you want to start some controversy with this, Joyce Dewitt apparently is one of the producers...
BERNHARD: Yes.
KAGAN: ... and has coordinated this, but John Ritter is not involved and Suzanne Somers... BERNHARD: I know.
KAGAN: ... says they have no part in this.
BERNHARD: Oh, the backstabbing, the contract disputes.
KAGAN: I know.
BERNHARD: It's incredible. I know. That's on tonight.
KAGAN: And then one of the mainstays: "Friends." That's kind of wrapping up...
BERNHARD: Yes.
KAGAN: ... at least another season.
BERNHARD: Right.
KAGAN: But they're trying to build it a Joey and Rachel kind of thing.
BERNHARD: The whole love triangle. They're on location in Barbados, Hank Azaria comes in as a love interest to propose to Phoebe. So, you know, there's all kinds -- look, they look tan already. There they are in Barbados.
KAGAN: Bronzer will do some wonders.
BERNHARD: Yes. A lot of big series coming to finales -- "Raymond," "Friends" -- all big stuff.
KAGAN: "Frasier" and all that kind of stuff.
BERNHARD: Yes. Weddings, babies, the usual.
(CROSSTALK)
KAGAN: (UNINTELLIGIBLE) to get us to tune in.
BERNHARD: Right, yes.
KAGAN: Looking ahead, this whole reality TV thing. Now, there have been some huge successes, like we talked about "Survivor" and "American Idol," but there has been now some duds that they tried to get more and more.
BERNHARD: Right.
KAGAN: Are we coming to an end when we look at shows like "The Bachelor," which kind of...
BERNHARD: Yes, "The Bachelor," but it still does decent ratings. I'll tell you something. The networks talk about, we need to get hit comedies and dramas, but they all have, like, 20 reality shows in development, from dating shows. Simon Kalla (ph) is producing a new dating show.
KAGAN: There is a restaurant one I was reading about in "The New York Times."
BERNHARD: There is a restaurant workplace show, "The Apprentice," coming in the fall, where God help the person who is going to go work for Donald Trump in that show. Rosanne Barr, I always thought she lived her life as a reality show anyway. She has got, you know, you follow her around...
(CROSSTALK)
BERNHARD: Yes.
KAGAN: And that's why we need "TV Guide" to see us through the morass...
BERNHARD: Absolutely.
KAGAN: ... of all of these reality shows. Lisa Bernhard -- Lisa, thanks for stopping by.
BERNHARD: Thanks, Daryn.
KAGAN: Good to see you.
BERNHARD: You, too.
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Aired May 12, 2003 - 07:51 ET
THIS IS A RUSH TRANSCRIPT. THIS COPY MAY NOT BE IN ITS FINAL FORM AND MAY BE UPDATED.
(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: The winner of "Survivor: Amazon."
(END VIDEO CLIP)
DARYN KAGAN, CNN ANCHOR: She didn't just win; it was a landslide. She is the "Survivor," and a newly-minted millionaire; 21- year-old swimsuit model Jenna Morasca is the youngest winner in the show's sixth season. Last night "Survivor: Amazon" finale was among the highlights of the May sweeps period.
Here with her take on "Survivor" mania, as well as sweeps reality check, TV deputy editor, Lisa Bernhard.
Lisa, good to see you in person.
LISA BERNHARD, DEPUTY EDITOR, "TV GUIDE": Hi, Daryn. How are you?
KAGAN: Well, so, you have a 21-year-old swimsuit model who did barely any work, admitted that she...
BERNHARD: I know.
KAGAN: ... is a spoiled brat, walking away with a million bucks.
BERNHARD: Jenna, don't hate me, because I'm beautiful.
KAGAN: Exactly.
BERNHARD: Here I am with a million. I know, she complained a lot. She was sick. But when the chips were down, she pulled through on those immunity challenges. I'll tell you, "Survivor" is a great show. It's still -- the reason why it's still in the 60s then -- I mean, it's a well-produced show. There are always surprises. It was great. I loved it.
KAGAN: I think the best moment of last night's finale was when the hearing-impaired contestant faced down with Jenna, and said, now, really, did you really say that being beautiful is a handicap?
BERNHARD: I know. I saw it. Oh, god, that could be the nail in the coffin right there, but she pulled through.
KAGAN: And she even got her vote...
BERNHARD: She did. Amazing.
KAGAN: ... as well. Incredible.
OK, let's talk about some other reality TV finales -- really not about finales, but crescendos that are coming up.
BERNHARD: Right.
KAGAN: "American Idol." This one is getting down to the wire.
BERNHARD: Absolutely. And this one, you know, the viewership builds, because you don't necessary -- you know, you would have had to have watched throughout. So, I think it's this is a finale...
KAGAN: And there is poor Josh. He's gone.
BERNHARD: He's gone.
KAGAN: You know, that's old face.
BERNHARD: He's dust. He's dust. I think it's really probably going to come down to what we were saying before, you and I, at the break...
KAGAN: We were having a little battle of our own, weren't we?
BERNHARD: ... Clay -- a little debate. Clay -- you like Rubin I know. I think Clay has a fantastic voice. It's exciting, it's good stuff. We're hooked.
KAGAN: And May 21, is that when they crown the new "American Idol" for that?
BERNHARD: Yes, May 21, yes.
KAGAN: OK, let's move on to other things non-reality. "Three's Company," the reunion movie, how has it gone this long without this?
BERNHARD: I dont understand. You know, I think there really have been the real people. There have been other specials before. We needed to see now a dramatization. You know, I think it's probably an actor's dream: let me play Joyce Dewitt as she was on "Three's Company."
KAGAN: Well...
BERNHARD: There is more I need to know (UNINTELLIGIBLE) behind the scenes.
KAGAN: And if you want to start some controversy with this, Joyce Dewitt apparently is one of the producers...
BERNHARD: Yes.
KAGAN: ... and has coordinated this, but John Ritter is not involved and Suzanne Somers... BERNHARD: I know.
KAGAN: ... says they have no part in this.
BERNHARD: Oh, the backstabbing, the contract disputes.
KAGAN: I know.
BERNHARD: It's incredible. I know. That's on tonight.
KAGAN: And then one of the mainstays: "Friends." That's kind of wrapping up...
BERNHARD: Yes.
KAGAN: ... at least another season.
BERNHARD: Right.
KAGAN: But they're trying to build it a Joey and Rachel kind of thing.
BERNHARD: The whole love triangle. They're on location in Barbados, Hank Azaria comes in as a love interest to propose to Phoebe. So, you know, there's all kinds -- look, they look tan already. There they are in Barbados.
KAGAN: Bronzer will do some wonders.
BERNHARD: Yes. A lot of big series coming to finales -- "Raymond," "Friends" -- all big stuff.
KAGAN: "Frasier" and all that kind of stuff.
BERNHARD: Yes. Weddings, babies, the usual.
(CROSSTALK)
KAGAN: (UNINTELLIGIBLE) to get us to tune in.
BERNHARD: Right, yes.
KAGAN: Looking ahead, this whole reality TV thing. Now, there have been some huge successes, like we talked about "Survivor" and "American Idol," but there has been now some duds that they tried to get more and more.
BERNHARD: Right.
KAGAN: Are we coming to an end when we look at shows like "The Bachelor," which kind of...
BERNHARD: Yes, "The Bachelor," but it still does decent ratings. I'll tell you something. The networks talk about, we need to get hit comedies and dramas, but they all have, like, 20 reality shows in development, from dating shows. Simon Kalla (ph) is producing a new dating show.
KAGAN: There is a restaurant one I was reading about in "The New York Times."
BERNHARD: There is a restaurant workplace show, "The Apprentice," coming in the fall, where God help the person who is going to go work for Donald Trump in that show. Rosanne Barr, I always thought she lived her life as a reality show anyway. She has got, you know, you follow her around...
(CROSSTALK)
BERNHARD: Yes.
KAGAN: And that's why we need "TV Guide" to see us through the morass...
BERNHARD: Absolutely.
KAGAN: ... of all of these reality shows. Lisa Bernhard -- Lisa, thanks for stopping by.
BERNHARD: Thanks, Daryn.
KAGAN: Good to see you.
BERNHARD: You, too.
TO ORDER A VIDEO OF THIS TRANSCRIPT, PLEASE CALL 800-CNN-NEWS OR USE OUR SECURE ONLINE ORDER FORM LOCATED AT www.fdch.com.
