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90-Second Pop: Culture Watch
Aired June 19, 2003 - 07:44 ET
THIS IS A RUSH TRANSCRIPT. THIS COPY MAY NOT BE IN ITS FINAL FORM AND MAY BE UPDATED.
THIS IS A RUSH TRANSCRIPT. THIS COPY MAY NOT BE IN ITS FINAL FORM AND MAY BE UPDATED.
DARYN KAGAN, CNN ANCHOR: Time now our "90-Second Pop," our lightning-fast look at pop culture.
Our panel of experts this morning, B.J. Sigusmund, entertainment reporter for "Newsweek," Dina Wise of "Radar" magazine, and actor- comedian Michael Ian Black.
Panelists, good morning to you.
MICHAEL IAN BLACK, COMEDIAN/ACTOR: Good morning.
DINA WISE, "RADAR" MAGAZINE: Good morning.
B.J. SIGUSMUND, ENTERTAINMENT RPEORTER FOR "NEWSWEEK": Good morning.
KAGAN: Michael, we start with you and sex, as in "Sex and the City." It had its premiere last night. This is the beginning of the final season.
BLACK: Yes, well, frankly, I'm devastated that this show is ending. I mean, I'm a guy. I do what guys do.
KAGAN: What do guys do?
BLACK: I watch "Sex in the City."
WISE: For nudity.
BLACK: Me and Bill Hemmer, we get together on Sunday nights and paint our toenails.
KAGAN: Really?
BLACK: We eat ice cream (UNINTELLIGIBLE) about Carrie, and frankly it's rocking my world.
KAGAN: He's being sarcastic, but for millions of women out there, this has been a really fun series to watch for the last five years.
WISE: It's been a great series to watch, and I'll tell you, I think it's really great that they're going out while they're on top. I think that in Manhattan....
(CROSSTALK) WISE: No pun intended. I think in Manhattan, there is already going to be a little bit of a backlash. I think Manhattan women are a little bit over it. It's sort of the stigma of the "Sex and the City" women. You know, you leave Manhattan, and it's like, who are you? Are you Carrie? Are you Samantha? It's just like, you know, (UNINTELLIGIBLE) and you just want to be, like, shut up.
SIGUSMUND: Yes. Daryn, I've seen the first two episodes, and it seems like they are setting up these women for love. And they're already hinting that they're going to be a couple of weddings this season.
KAGAN: A couple of weddings, yes.
SIGUSMUND: But it being "Sex in the City," a very ground- breaking show, they're not going to do it the traditional way. I really don't think that you're going to see Carrie Bradshaw walking down the aisle toward happily ever after on the last episode of this year. I think that a lot of women actually want to see her remain single at the end of the show, because that's the spirit of the show.
KAGAN: Well, speaking of being single, who is doing it in a bigger style than Demi Moore?
SIGUSMUND: Absolutely this is, like, yes.
WISE: The best, the best, the best.
SIGUSMUND: This is a new way of being single. No, Demi Moore may have been out of the business for five years, but she certainly hasn't lost her savvy with the media.
KAGAN: We have to show -- we have a videotape of the premiere of "Charlie Angels" from last night. Let's just show how this woman is living 40 years old. She...
WISE: And a body that just does not stop.
KAGAN: Does not stop.
(CROSSTALK)
KAGAN: How she got it that way, we won't ask questions. It looks good.
(CROSSTALK)
KAGAN: So, here is the premiere. So, here is Demi with her 25- year-old boyfriend, Ashton Kutcher, and then you have Bruce Willis...
WISE: Her 48-year-old ex-husband.
KAGAN: ... ex-husband, who brings the kids. He's kind of like the nanny (UNINTELLIGIBLE) on the red carpet.
SIGUSMUND: He's the nanny. WISE: Right.
SIGUSMUND: Yes. You know what? It served them very well during their height, and they, like any power couple, are better together than they were apart. Now they're like power ex-couple.
WISE: They are seriously the power ex-couple, and I think that it was cool. You know, he was on "Good Morning America," and Diane started waving the "US Weekly" of Demi and Ashton. And she said, "What do you think? What do you think?" And he said, "Look, I think it's great. She's happy, I'm happy for her. I date younger women. Why shouldnt she?"
SIGUSMUND: Right.
WISE: I mean, you know, I don't think she's looking to Ashton for a serious romance. I think he is...
SIGUSMUND: Oh, I do. Oh, I do. I think that one is going to last through the ages.
BLACK: Well, clearly, look, she's trying to appeal to a younger generation. She figures if she mates with the younger generation, maybe it will be something.
SIGUSMUND: And you know what? In "Newsweek," we did a story on her comeback strategy this week, and this movie hasn't even come out yet, and she's already got three movie offers on the table. She's been meeting with directors all over L.A. She...
KAGAN: And she's on the cover of "Vogue."
(CROSSTALK)
SIGUSMUND: Yes, she's on the cover of "Vogue." I mean, she, like Madonna, has always known the power of a good image, the power of a photograph. Look no further than her cover for "Vanity Fair."
WISE: And you know what the thing is? She's a bright woman. I mean, you think she's been out of the spotlight. She executive produces all of the "Austin Powers" movies, and she is really a bright, bright woman in the business. And so, I think we're going to see a lot from her both in front and behind the camera.
KAGAN: And then finally, the segment wouldn't be complete if we didn't talk about the major motion picture debut of "American Idol: the Movie."
SIGUSMUND: Yes.
KAGAN: A week delay. What's going on this?
SIGUSMUND: Yes, I don't think it's going to be a critical hit, Daryn, but I actually wonder if it's even going to be a commercial hit. You know, these are the stars of "American Idol" from last summer. Now, Kelly Clarkson's CD did pretty well when it debuted this spring, but Justin's Guarini's CD came out a couple of weeks ago, and it only sold 50,000 copies its first week compared to 300,000 for Kelly Clarkson. I'm not even sure what desire there is for audiences out there besides die-hard "Idol" fans.
WISE: And I was...
BLACK: Well...
WISE: I'm sorry, go ahead.
BLACK: Well, I was just thinking that, you know, maybe it would be more successful (UNINTELLIGIBLE) from Justin to Kelly if they did it from Ruben to Clay.
WISE: I was just going to say that I -- the thought of Justin kissing a girl to me I just don't want to see it on a big screen. But, you know, they're promoting this film as sort of the "Grease" of this generation, which I just think is disgusting, and I'm not...
BLACK: I think it's more like the "Grease 2" of this generation.
SIGUSMUND: Yes.
KAGAN: "Grease 2."
WISE: Hey, Michelle Pfeiffer rocked in that movie.
KAGAN: And we will leave it with that. Panelists, thank you for that.
WISE: Thank you.
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Aired June 19, 2003 - 07:44 ET
THIS IS A RUSH TRANSCRIPT. THIS COPY MAY NOT BE IN ITS FINAL FORM AND MAY BE UPDATED.
DARYN KAGAN, CNN ANCHOR: Time now our "90-Second Pop," our lightning-fast look at pop culture.
Our panel of experts this morning, B.J. Sigusmund, entertainment reporter for "Newsweek," Dina Wise of "Radar" magazine, and actor- comedian Michael Ian Black.
Panelists, good morning to you.
MICHAEL IAN BLACK, COMEDIAN/ACTOR: Good morning.
DINA WISE, "RADAR" MAGAZINE: Good morning.
B.J. SIGUSMUND, ENTERTAINMENT RPEORTER FOR "NEWSWEEK": Good morning.
KAGAN: Michael, we start with you and sex, as in "Sex and the City." It had its premiere last night. This is the beginning of the final season.
BLACK: Yes, well, frankly, I'm devastated that this show is ending. I mean, I'm a guy. I do what guys do.
KAGAN: What do guys do?
BLACK: I watch "Sex in the City."
WISE: For nudity.
BLACK: Me and Bill Hemmer, we get together on Sunday nights and paint our toenails.
KAGAN: Really?
BLACK: We eat ice cream (UNINTELLIGIBLE) about Carrie, and frankly it's rocking my world.
KAGAN: He's being sarcastic, but for millions of women out there, this has been a really fun series to watch for the last five years.
WISE: It's been a great series to watch, and I'll tell you, I think it's really great that they're going out while they're on top. I think that in Manhattan....
(CROSSTALK) WISE: No pun intended. I think in Manhattan, there is already going to be a little bit of a backlash. I think Manhattan women are a little bit over it. It's sort of the stigma of the "Sex and the City" women. You know, you leave Manhattan, and it's like, who are you? Are you Carrie? Are you Samantha? It's just like, you know, (UNINTELLIGIBLE) and you just want to be, like, shut up.
SIGUSMUND: Yes. Daryn, I've seen the first two episodes, and it seems like they are setting up these women for love. And they're already hinting that they're going to be a couple of weddings this season.
KAGAN: A couple of weddings, yes.
SIGUSMUND: But it being "Sex in the City," a very ground- breaking show, they're not going to do it the traditional way. I really don't think that you're going to see Carrie Bradshaw walking down the aisle toward happily ever after on the last episode of this year. I think that a lot of women actually want to see her remain single at the end of the show, because that's the spirit of the show.
KAGAN: Well, speaking of being single, who is doing it in a bigger style than Demi Moore?
SIGUSMUND: Absolutely this is, like, yes.
WISE: The best, the best, the best.
SIGUSMUND: This is a new way of being single. No, Demi Moore may have been out of the business for five years, but she certainly hasn't lost her savvy with the media.
KAGAN: We have to show -- we have a videotape of the premiere of "Charlie Angels" from last night. Let's just show how this woman is living 40 years old. She...
WISE: And a body that just does not stop.
KAGAN: Does not stop.
(CROSSTALK)
KAGAN: How she got it that way, we won't ask questions. It looks good.
(CROSSTALK)
KAGAN: So, here is the premiere. So, here is Demi with her 25- year-old boyfriend, Ashton Kutcher, and then you have Bruce Willis...
WISE: Her 48-year-old ex-husband.
KAGAN: ... ex-husband, who brings the kids. He's kind of like the nanny (UNINTELLIGIBLE) on the red carpet.
SIGUSMUND: He's the nanny. WISE: Right.
SIGUSMUND: Yes. You know what? It served them very well during their height, and they, like any power couple, are better together than they were apart. Now they're like power ex-couple.
WISE: They are seriously the power ex-couple, and I think that it was cool. You know, he was on "Good Morning America," and Diane started waving the "US Weekly" of Demi and Ashton. And she said, "What do you think? What do you think?" And he said, "Look, I think it's great. She's happy, I'm happy for her. I date younger women. Why shouldnt she?"
SIGUSMUND: Right.
WISE: I mean, you know, I don't think she's looking to Ashton for a serious romance. I think he is...
SIGUSMUND: Oh, I do. Oh, I do. I think that one is going to last through the ages.
BLACK: Well, clearly, look, she's trying to appeal to a younger generation. She figures if she mates with the younger generation, maybe it will be something.
SIGUSMUND: And you know what? In "Newsweek," we did a story on her comeback strategy this week, and this movie hasn't even come out yet, and she's already got three movie offers on the table. She's been meeting with directors all over L.A. She...
KAGAN: And she's on the cover of "Vogue."
(CROSSTALK)
SIGUSMUND: Yes, she's on the cover of "Vogue." I mean, she, like Madonna, has always known the power of a good image, the power of a photograph. Look no further than her cover for "Vanity Fair."
WISE: And you know what the thing is? She's a bright woman. I mean, you think she's been out of the spotlight. She executive produces all of the "Austin Powers" movies, and she is really a bright, bright woman in the business. And so, I think we're going to see a lot from her both in front and behind the camera.
KAGAN: And then finally, the segment wouldn't be complete if we didn't talk about the major motion picture debut of "American Idol: the Movie."
SIGUSMUND: Yes.
KAGAN: A week delay. What's going on this?
SIGUSMUND: Yes, I don't think it's going to be a critical hit, Daryn, but I actually wonder if it's even going to be a commercial hit. You know, these are the stars of "American Idol" from last summer. Now, Kelly Clarkson's CD did pretty well when it debuted this spring, but Justin's Guarini's CD came out a couple of weeks ago, and it only sold 50,000 copies its first week compared to 300,000 for Kelly Clarkson. I'm not even sure what desire there is for audiences out there besides die-hard "Idol" fans.
WISE: And I was...
BLACK: Well...
WISE: I'm sorry, go ahead.
BLACK: Well, I was just thinking that, you know, maybe it would be more successful (UNINTELLIGIBLE) from Justin to Kelly if they did it from Ruben to Clay.
WISE: I was just going to say that I -- the thought of Justin kissing a girl to me I just don't want to see it on a big screen. But, you know, they're promoting this film as sort of the "Grease" of this generation, which I just think is disgusting, and I'm not...
BLACK: I think it's more like the "Grease 2" of this generation.
SIGUSMUND: Yes.
KAGAN: "Grease 2."
WISE: Hey, Michelle Pfeiffer rocked in that movie.
KAGAN: And we will leave it with that. Panelists, thank you for that.
WISE: Thank you.
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