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Discussion with Staff Sergeant Bruce Jones

Aired December 01, 2003 - 07:31   ET

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SOLEDAD O'BRIEN, CNN ANCHOR: Military commanders in Iraq say that American troops were prepared for yesterday's twin attacks in Samarra. U.S. forces responded to simultaneous convoy attacks with heavy firepower, killing at least 46 people. No Americans were killed.
Staff Sergeant Bruce Jones was in the middle of the biggest firefight since the occupation began.

He joins us this morning.

Good morning.

It's nice to see you, Staff Sergeant.

Thank you for spending some time with us this morning.

Describe for me what happened, where you were going, what's the first thing you saw.

STAFF SGT. BRUCE JONES, U.S. ARMY: Well, my mission and my platoon's mission was to actually escort the Iraqi currency exchange into two different banks in Samarra, one of them being the Samarra Bank and the other one I think is called Amawape (ph) or Masabe Bank (ph).

We escorted them in. As soon as we got to that location, we started receiving direct fire via small arms, AK-47s. My guys were from both the east and the west bank started returning fire back to the point of origin and neutralizing any targets they'd actually seen.

During the course of the firefight we started receiving not only small arms. We had incoming and direct fire from mortars. We also had RPGs coming through here just hitting us all around.

As far as my thoughts during that, it was -- it was an extremely scary time. I remember I talked to my wife yesterday morning. I've got a 10 month old son. He'll be 10 months old on the fourth of February, the fourth of December, excuse me. And she told me, she says don't do anything stupid. Don't put yourself in any harm's way or anything like that. Just be extremely careful.

And I reckoned during the course of that fight, we were -- I kept thinking about my wife and my son. And I kept communicating with my team that I had with me and I was looking at the rest of the squad that was there and making sure they were doing their job. They were all well. They were doing an excellent job as far as returning fire and everything. And I, you know, was saying a little bit of prayer while I was in the middle of it. I was talking to the man upstairs, saying god, please keep us safe. And putting some rounds down the range and...

O'BRIEN: How long did this...

JONES: ... trying to get some (UNINTELLIGIBLE)...

O'BRIEN: Forgive me for jumping in here, but how long did this fire...

JONES: ... to make a...

O'BRIEN: I'm sorry for tripping over what you just said, but tell me, give me a sense of how long this firefight lasted and what kind of firepower U.S. troops used to return fire.

JONES: The firefight, my understanding is it was only supposed to take us about 30 minutes in the actual Iraqi currency exchange, to drop off the money. And I estimated that about an hour and a half, two hours, is what I would just estimate. The firepower that the U.S. had, as far as we had some tanks out there. We had some Bradleys. I had an M.P. squad with me and I had another one at the other bank. We were using .40 millimeter machine guns. We were also using our regular M-4 rifles and .249 Sals (ph) plus some .50 caliber machine guns.

O'BRIEN: Tell me a little bit about any civilians. I heard and read that there was a barricade blocking off the streets.

Did it seem to you that there were no civilians around? Did that seem surprising to you?

JONES: Well, what they attempted to do -- and we don't know if it's actually civilians. I called them all terrorists. If they're blocking the streets or if they're attempting to block the streets, then obviously they're not a civilian. They're some sort of combatant. They're helping out the terrorist projects with that. I'm a true believer of that. These guys were trying to throw vehicles in the way, taxi cabs, a couple of white pickup trucks and everything, to actually block the roads as we tried to egress out with the convoy.

We did have to -- we did have to ram some vehicles out of the way to get our people out, to get our people out of there safely and securely. But civilians in the area, you know something's going to happen as soon as you get in there and all the civilians basically clear out of the way. So if you go into a street or part of the city that's normally busy and there's nobody around, you'd better get your guns up and ready to go.

O'BRIEN: Before I let you go -- and we have just a few moments -- I know you said you spoke to your wife yesterday. You've got a 10 month old son. While we've got you up on the satellite, anything you want to say to them?

JONES: To my wife? O'BRIEN: Sure.

JONES: Yes. Mercedes, Nicholas, they're -- they're my heart and my soul right now. What I'm doing over here I'm doing to protect the freedom and the future freedom of my son. And, you know, they're my driving force behind everything that I do.

O'BRIEN: Staff Sergeant Bruce Jones, thanks for joining us to talk to us about that this morning.

We certainly appreciate it.

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Aired December 1, 2003 - 07:31   ET
THIS IS A RUSH TRANSCRIPT. THIS COPY MAY NOT BE IN ITS FINAL FORM AND MAY BE UPDATED.
SOLEDAD O'BRIEN, CNN ANCHOR: Military commanders in Iraq say that American troops were prepared for yesterday's twin attacks in Samarra. U.S. forces responded to simultaneous convoy attacks with heavy firepower, killing at least 46 people. No Americans were killed.
Staff Sergeant Bruce Jones was in the middle of the biggest firefight since the occupation began.

He joins us this morning.

Good morning.

It's nice to see you, Staff Sergeant.

Thank you for spending some time with us this morning.

Describe for me what happened, where you were going, what's the first thing you saw.

STAFF SGT. BRUCE JONES, U.S. ARMY: Well, my mission and my platoon's mission was to actually escort the Iraqi currency exchange into two different banks in Samarra, one of them being the Samarra Bank and the other one I think is called Amawape (ph) or Masabe Bank (ph).

We escorted them in. As soon as we got to that location, we started receiving direct fire via small arms, AK-47s. My guys were from both the east and the west bank started returning fire back to the point of origin and neutralizing any targets they'd actually seen.

During the course of the firefight we started receiving not only small arms. We had incoming and direct fire from mortars. We also had RPGs coming through here just hitting us all around.

As far as my thoughts during that, it was -- it was an extremely scary time. I remember I talked to my wife yesterday morning. I've got a 10 month old son. He'll be 10 months old on the fourth of February, the fourth of December, excuse me. And she told me, she says don't do anything stupid. Don't put yourself in any harm's way or anything like that. Just be extremely careful.

And I reckoned during the course of that fight, we were -- I kept thinking about my wife and my son. And I kept communicating with my team that I had with me and I was looking at the rest of the squad that was there and making sure they were doing their job. They were all well. They were doing an excellent job as far as returning fire and everything. And I, you know, was saying a little bit of prayer while I was in the middle of it. I was talking to the man upstairs, saying god, please keep us safe. And putting some rounds down the range and...

O'BRIEN: How long did this...

JONES: ... trying to get some (UNINTELLIGIBLE)...

O'BRIEN: Forgive me for jumping in here, but how long did this fire...

JONES: ... to make a...

O'BRIEN: I'm sorry for tripping over what you just said, but tell me, give me a sense of how long this firefight lasted and what kind of firepower U.S. troops used to return fire.

JONES: The firefight, my understanding is it was only supposed to take us about 30 minutes in the actual Iraqi currency exchange, to drop off the money. And I estimated that about an hour and a half, two hours, is what I would just estimate. The firepower that the U.S. had, as far as we had some tanks out there. We had some Bradleys. I had an M.P. squad with me and I had another one at the other bank. We were using .40 millimeter machine guns. We were also using our regular M-4 rifles and .249 Sals (ph) plus some .50 caliber machine guns.

O'BRIEN: Tell me a little bit about any civilians. I heard and read that there was a barricade blocking off the streets.

Did it seem to you that there were no civilians around? Did that seem surprising to you?

JONES: Well, what they attempted to do -- and we don't know if it's actually civilians. I called them all terrorists. If they're blocking the streets or if they're attempting to block the streets, then obviously they're not a civilian. They're some sort of combatant. They're helping out the terrorist projects with that. I'm a true believer of that. These guys were trying to throw vehicles in the way, taxi cabs, a couple of white pickup trucks and everything, to actually block the roads as we tried to egress out with the convoy.

We did have to -- we did have to ram some vehicles out of the way to get our people out, to get our people out of there safely and securely. But civilians in the area, you know something's going to happen as soon as you get in there and all the civilians basically clear out of the way. So if you go into a street or part of the city that's normally busy and there's nobody around, you'd better get your guns up and ready to go.

O'BRIEN: Before I let you go -- and we have just a few moments -- I know you said you spoke to your wife yesterday. You've got a 10 month old son. While we've got you up on the satellite, anything you want to say to them?

JONES: To my wife? O'BRIEN: Sure.

JONES: Yes. Mercedes, Nicholas, they're -- they're my heart and my soul right now. What I'm doing over here I'm doing to protect the freedom and the future freedom of my son. And, you know, they're my driving force behind everything that I do.

O'BRIEN: Staff Sergeant Bruce Jones, thanks for joining us to talk to us about that this morning.

We certainly appreciate it.

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