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Aired January 16, 2004 - 08:37 ET
THIS IS A RUSH TRANSCRIPT. THIS COPY MAY NOT BE IN ITS FINAL FORM AND MAY BE UPDATED.
THIS IS A RUSH TRANSCRIPT. THIS COPY MAY NOT BE IN ITS FINAL FORM AND MAY BE UPDATED.
BILL HEMMER, CNN ANCHOR: Time now for our edition of "Gimme a Minute" on a Friday morning in D.C.
Jonah Goldberg back with us, after a week off last meek.
Missed you, Jonah. Welcome back.
JONAH GOLDBERG, "THE NATIONAL REVIEW": Thanks for having me.
HEMMER: From the National Review Online.
Hello, Donna.
DONNA BRAZILE, DEMOCRATIC STRATEGIST: Good morning.
HEMMER: Democratic strategist Donna Brazile back with us, and here in New York, say hello to Colin Quinn, host of Comedy Central's "Tough Crowd With Colin Quinn."
Welcome. Hey, you've got big shoes to fill, too, by the way.
COLIN QUINN, COMEDY CENTRAL: What do you mean?
HEMMER: Borowitz is out.
Were you chewing gum by the way?
QUINN: No.
HEMMER: Jonah, the let's start with you, since you're back with us.
Michael Jackson, the prosecutors in this case want a gag order. Should they get it?
GOLDBERG: Actually, I think Michael Jackson's lawyer, Mark Geragos, should get a gag order, even if they drop the charges again Jackson. The fact is that the Jackson team wants a crazy media circus, O.J. style, and that should tell you something about what they think the substance of the case is.
HEMMER: Wow. Geragos a good talker, hard to keep him quiet.
What about it, Donna?
BRAZILE: I agree, Jonah, they should gag him, they should gag the entire team, focus on proving Michael's innocence, so the King of Pop can return at some point.
HEMMER: Colin, your honor, what's your ruling.
QUINN: Well, I say, first of all, the whole Michael Jackson case is like the epitome of, like, America in the past -- he started out as this beautiful, innocent thing, and you know, had all this talent, and then he got jaded by his money and his success, and now he's, like, sexually confused and racially divided. You know, he's just like a microcosm.
HEMMER: Nothing but facts, huh, Colin?
Let's talk about Paul O'Neill's book for a second here, Donna. Apparently during the week, he took some of the comments back essentially. Did I read that right?
BRAZILE: Yes, he's likes the kid that threw a brick and hit his hand, but the window is still broken.
HEMMER: How much harm is done there in D.C., Jonah?
GOLDBERG: I don't think that much. I think it gives some red meat to the people already determined to that, you know, George Bush is the devil. But, you know, beyond that, it let Ted Kennedy give another outrageous speech, and it gave Ron Sustein (ph), the author of the book, a chance to do his sort of Energizer bunny routine.
HEMMER: He said he'd even vote for him again, right, didn't he say that last week?
GOLDBERG: That's right.
HEMMER: Colin, what about it? Are you buying that book?
QUINN: He flinched, Paul O'Neill. He got a look at Michael Jackson and Pete Rose and realized both of them are I like, yes, I didn't do it, but I sleep with you kids and I'm not going to stop. Yes, I gamble and I bet on a horse, and I'm not going to stop. He's got to -- you know, the minute he said apology, he's from like three years ago, when you'd apologize and change your mind. Now you stick with your story, as horrifying as it may be.
HEMMER: Got it.
Let's go to Mars right now, the president's challenge this past week. Jonah, what do you think about it? Is it more than just a vision thing?
GOLDBERG: Well, I'm a real pro space sort of "Star Trek" geek, and I am all about this reaching for the stars stuff, but I don't think we should be spending billions and billions until we've won the war on terrorism, so we can send Osama bin Laden into space, like we did Spock's body at the end of "Star Trek II."
HEMMER: Well, presumably, this is 20 or 30 years down the road, right, Donna? What do you think? BRAZILE: I agree with Jonah, again. God, twice in a row, Jonah, what's going on?
HEMMER: Make a copy of this tape.
BRAZILE: Absolutely. I think we have more earthly priorities, like global warming, like reducing the deficit and bringing back jobs. So if they're looking for another undisclosed location for Dick Cheney, I have some ideas.
HEMMER: All right, we'll get back to that in a moment. Colin, what about it? Pretty far out, huh?
QUINN: Well, I mean, people are talking about how the rest of the world are starting to hate us under Bush. So, hey, we need a fire exit, you know what I mean, we got to get out of here.
HEMMER: Mars is more than a candy bar.
QUINN: America II, you know, Mars.
HEMMER: Under your radar. Donna, what's under your radar this week? What did we miss?
BRAZILE: Well, Congress returns next week, and there's a story that there's a potential mutiny in the House of Representatives among Republicans. I say get rid of the pork and the omnibus spending bill and keep the jobs.
HEMMER: Got it. Jonah, you?
GOLDBERG: The same week that Wesley Clark started talking about how Bush might need to be impeached for the Iraq war, it was revealed that Wesley Clark in testimony before Congress actually agreed with pretty much with the entire Bush line on the Iraq war. The guy is just making this stuff up as he goes along.
HEMMER: Colin, you just got back from Iraq, too.
QUINN: I sure did, and under the radar is that I just got back. And first of all, that everybody there was so happy when Saddam got captured, even the local people, and it seems like it goes the other way.
But also North Korea, they are citing the anti-nuclear thing, but everybody says, oh, let's not talk about that, because it actually makes us look effective.
HEMMER: Do you enjoy this Colin.
QUINN: Yes, this is kind of fun, only because I get to go last.
HEMMER: Next time we will stack you at the beginning.
Jonah, thanks. Donna, thanks. Colin Quinn, great to you here. Have a great weekend, all right? TO ORDER A VIDEO OF THIS TRANSCRIPT, PLEASE CALL 800-CNN-NEWS OR USE OUR SECURE ONLINE ORDER FORM LOCATED AT www.fdch.com
Aired January 16, 2004 - 08:37 ET
THIS IS A RUSH TRANSCRIPT. THIS COPY MAY NOT BE IN ITS FINAL FORM AND MAY BE UPDATED.
BILL HEMMER, CNN ANCHOR: Time now for our edition of "Gimme a Minute" on a Friday morning in D.C.
Jonah Goldberg back with us, after a week off last meek.
Missed you, Jonah. Welcome back.
JONAH GOLDBERG, "THE NATIONAL REVIEW": Thanks for having me.
HEMMER: From the National Review Online.
Hello, Donna.
DONNA BRAZILE, DEMOCRATIC STRATEGIST: Good morning.
HEMMER: Democratic strategist Donna Brazile back with us, and here in New York, say hello to Colin Quinn, host of Comedy Central's "Tough Crowd With Colin Quinn."
Welcome. Hey, you've got big shoes to fill, too, by the way.
COLIN QUINN, COMEDY CENTRAL: What do you mean?
HEMMER: Borowitz is out.
Were you chewing gum by the way?
QUINN: No.
HEMMER: Jonah, the let's start with you, since you're back with us.
Michael Jackson, the prosecutors in this case want a gag order. Should they get it?
GOLDBERG: Actually, I think Michael Jackson's lawyer, Mark Geragos, should get a gag order, even if they drop the charges again Jackson. The fact is that the Jackson team wants a crazy media circus, O.J. style, and that should tell you something about what they think the substance of the case is.
HEMMER: Wow. Geragos a good talker, hard to keep him quiet.
What about it, Donna?
BRAZILE: I agree, Jonah, they should gag him, they should gag the entire team, focus on proving Michael's innocence, so the King of Pop can return at some point.
HEMMER: Colin, your honor, what's your ruling.
QUINN: Well, I say, first of all, the whole Michael Jackson case is like the epitome of, like, America in the past -- he started out as this beautiful, innocent thing, and you know, had all this talent, and then he got jaded by his money and his success, and now he's, like, sexually confused and racially divided. You know, he's just like a microcosm.
HEMMER: Nothing but facts, huh, Colin?
Let's talk about Paul O'Neill's book for a second here, Donna. Apparently during the week, he took some of the comments back essentially. Did I read that right?
BRAZILE: Yes, he's likes the kid that threw a brick and hit his hand, but the window is still broken.
HEMMER: How much harm is done there in D.C., Jonah?
GOLDBERG: I don't think that much. I think it gives some red meat to the people already determined to that, you know, George Bush is the devil. But, you know, beyond that, it let Ted Kennedy give another outrageous speech, and it gave Ron Sustein (ph), the author of the book, a chance to do his sort of Energizer bunny routine.
HEMMER: He said he'd even vote for him again, right, didn't he say that last week?
GOLDBERG: That's right.
HEMMER: Colin, what about it? Are you buying that book?
QUINN: He flinched, Paul O'Neill. He got a look at Michael Jackson and Pete Rose and realized both of them are I like, yes, I didn't do it, but I sleep with you kids and I'm not going to stop. Yes, I gamble and I bet on a horse, and I'm not going to stop. He's got to -- you know, the minute he said apology, he's from like three years ago, when you'd apologize and change your mind. Now you stick with your story, as horrifying as it may be.
HEMMER: Got it.
Let's go to Mars right now, the president's challenge this past week. Jonah, what do you think about it? Is it more than just a vision thing?
GOLDBERG: Well, I'm a real pro space sort of "Star Trek" geek, and I am all about this reaching for the stars stuff, but I don't think we should be spending billions and billions until we've won the war on terrorism, so we can send Osama bin Laden into space, like we did Spock's body at the end of "Star Trek II."
HEMMER: Well, presumably, this is 20 or 30 years down the road, right, Donna? What do you think? BRAZILE: I agree with Jonah, again. God, twice in a row, Jonah, what's going on?
HEMMER: Make a copy of this tape.
BRAZILE: Absolutely. I think we have more earthly priorities, like global warming, like reducing the deficit and bringing back jobs. So if they're looking for another undisclosed location for Dick Cheney, I have some ideas.
HEMMER: All right, we'll get back to that in a moment. Colin, what about it? Pretty far out, huh?
QUINN: Well, I mean, people are talking about how the rest of the world are starting to hate us under Bush. So, hey, we need a fire exit, you know what I mean, we got to get out of here.
HEMMER: Mars is more than a candy bar.
QUINN: America II, you know, Mars.
HEMMER: Under your radar. Donna, what's under your radar this week? What did we miss?
BRAZILE: Well, Congress returns next week, and there's a story that there's a potential mutiny in the House of Representatives among Republicans. I say get rid of the pork and the omnibus spending bill and keep the jobs.
HEMMER: Got it. Jonah, you?
GOLDBERG: The same week that Wesley Clark started talking about how Bush might need to be impeached for the Iraq war, it was revealed that Wesley Clark in testimony before Congress actually agreed with pretty much with the entire Bush line on the Iraq war. The guy is just making this stuff up as he goes along.
HEMMER: Colin, you just got back from Iraq, too.
QUINN: I sure did, and under the radar is that I just got back. And first of all, that everybody there was so happy when Saddam got captured, even the local people, and it seems like it goes the other way.
But also North Korea, they are citing the anti-nuclear thing, but everybody says, oh, let's not talk about that, because it actually makes us look effective.
HEMMER: Do you enjoy this Colin.
QUINN: Yes, this is kind of fun, only because I get to go last.
HEMMER: Next time we will stack you at the beginning.
Jonah, thanks. Donna, thanks. Colin Quinn, great to you here. Have a great weekend, all right? TO ORDER A VIDEO OF THIS TRANSCRIPT, PLEASE CALL 800-CNN-NEWS OR USE OUR SECURE ONLINE ORDER FORM LOCATED AT www.fdch.com