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90-Second Pop, Culture Watch: Grammy Edition
Aired February 09, 2004 - 07:45 ET
THIS IS A RUSH TRANSCRIPT. THIS COPY MAY NOT BE IN ITS FINAL FORM AND MAY BE UPDATED.
THIS IS A RUSH TRANSCRIPT. THIS COPY MAY NOT BE IN ITS FINAL FORM AND MAY BE UPDATED.
SOLEDAD O'BRIEN, CNN ANCHOR: You are hearing that music. You know what that means. It's time for "90-Second Pop," time to take a look at the morning-after take on Grammy night.
Joining us this morning, Toure, contributing editor for "Rolling Stone," Kate Betts is style and design editor for "TIME," and B.J. Sigesmund is staff editor for "US Weekly."
Good morning.
TOURE, CONTRIBUTING EDITOR, "ROLLING STONE": Hello.
KATE BETTS, STYLE AND DESIGN EDITOR, "TIME" MAGAZINE: Good morning.
O'BRIEN: Let's get right to it. Boy, I thought Beyonce Knowles was just perfection.
TOURE: Wow!
O'BRIEN: She had that big number at the very beginning with Prince.
TOURE: Yes.
O'BRIEN: And it was just -- I thought it set a really nice tone from the get-go.
TOURE: Yes. I mean, it's so great to see the great legend, Prince, step in and give a great performance, and then Beyonce comes out, gets the Holy Ghost as she likes to do on stage, takes it to a whole other level. I mean, wow! What great fun, yes.
O'BRIEN: Good performances. Outkast as well. I mean, no surprise really that they walked away.
TOURE: No surprise. I mean, it's a fantastic album, an important group in the history of hip-hop, in the history of music. It's great to see them win, up there with George Clinton, Earth, Wind and Fire (UNINTELLIGIBLE). And the thing I loved is, though, Andre 3,000 gets to have both his tits out (UNINTELLIGIBLE).
(CROSSTALK)
O'BRIEN: And no one said (UNINTELLIGIBLE).
TOURE: Right? O'BRIEN: T-I-T-S, we're not using that word this morning. OK, let's try to keep it clean.
B.J. SIGESMUND, STAFF EDITOR, "US WEEKLY": I thought that there were one too many performances, though. It was three and a half hours long.
O'BRIEN: Oh, they're always long.
(CROSSTALK)
SIGESMUND: I don't know. It just seemed longer this year than it had in prior years.
O'BRIEN: Do you think people missed the whole Janet Jackson thing or...
SIGESMUND: Yes.
O'BRIEN: Really?
SIGESMUND: And I want to talk about that. All day yesterday I thought...
O'BRIEN: Please.
SIGESMUND: No, all day yesterday I thought she's going to be the surprise guest. You know, we've had a whole week of this. I thought she'd come out maybe arm in arm with Justin, her partner in crime on that stage, and say one last apology and get a standing ovation and move on.
But, instead, she wasn't there. She was punished. And I'm surprised by that, and I'm surprised that Justin didn't stand up more for her. You know, his apology, which was demanded by CBS, I thought was a day late and a dollar short.
(CROSSTALK)
O'BRIEN: Well, let's roll the apology, because you know what? We've got it cued up. Let's listen.
(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)
JUSTIN TIMBERLAKE, SINGER: Listen, I know it's been a rough week on everybody, and what occurred was unintentional, completely regrettable, and I apologize if you guys were offended.
(END VIDEO CLIP)
O'BRIEN: Oh, please!
SIGESMUND: I don't know.
TOURE: I mean, I agree with B.J. that perhaps there should have been a nod to Janet, but this is the 1984 big brother part of it. He couldn't have, because CBS would have cut that right off. So, now they have control in what not only what you do in potential malfunctions, but what you say.
SIGESMUND: Speaking of that, I was following along on the Internet and actually the Grammy Web site was posting winners at least two minutes before you saw them on television.
O'BRIEN: Wow!
SIGESMUND: And I'm hoping that it doesn't happen Oscar night, because you want that surprise.
TOURE: (UNINTELLIGIBLE) disappointing.
O'BRIEN: No surprise there when you find out a couple minutes ahead of time who won before they announce it on TV.
SIGESMUND: Right.
O'BRIEN: All right, let's talk about the fashion. Forget the awards, the winners, blah, blah, blah. Let's start by talking about Beyonce, because I thought just fashion-wise, perfection.
BETTS: She -- yes, it was her night.
O'BRIEN: She does each and every time.
BETTS: She looked beautiful. The pink dress I thought was especially beautiful. But she -- everything she wears she looks fabulous. She has such great style.
O'BRIEN: What a great shot of her holding all of her Grammys in that gold dress.
SIGESMUND: Right.
BETTS: Oh, yes, beautiful.
O'BRIEN: And just so curvy and -- well, there it is right there. And you think, she really knows how to pull off style.
SIGESMUND: How many outfits did this woman have?
O'BRIEN: Like (UNINTELLIGIBLE).
TOURE: And it's her and her mom. They were doing the styling.
BETTS: The style, right.
O'BRIEN: Yes.
TOURE: So, it's not like she's hired some professional.
O'BRIEN: Yes, she...
TOURE: I mean, these are her ideas. You know, the "Dangerously in Love" performance was all her idea.
O'BRIEN: Yes, she looks fantastic.
BETTS: Yes.
O'BRIEN: Mary J. Blige, what did you think of her outfit? Because...
BETTS: I thought she looked great.
O'BRIEN: You did?
BETTS: I thought she looked really glamorous.
O'BRIEN: Some people thought she looked like (UNINTELLIGIBLE).
TOURE: Yes, I agree with you.
BETTS: Go for the color statement. I thought she -- i think she's great. I'm sorry. I think she's fabulous.
SIGESMUND: I loved this, too. I thought that thing was really beautiful.
TOURE: I don't know. She looked like she could get attacked by a yellow polar bear or something.
O'BRIEN: It was kind of bright and large and puffy. Christina Aguilera, as we saw, I mean....
BETTS: The first dress she had on I thought was pretty, but the pink dress...
O'BRIEN: This one here?
BETTS: Yes, I wasn't -- the hair it was a little strange.
O'BRIEN: You're a fashion insider. How does that thing stay on?
BETTS: There are secrets i can't tell you on the air. I'd have to kill you.
O'BRIEN: I mean, because gravity-wise and every which way.
SIGESMUND: Well, she was really trying.
BETTS: She was (UNINTELLIGIBLE).
SIGESMUND: She was dangerously close to coming out of that thing.
TOURE: She was struggling a little bit with it.
O'BRIEN: You know...
SIGESMUND: And she alluded to Janet, which was one of the only mentions of her the whole night. She said she doesn't want the same thing to happen to her that happened to Janet.
O'BRIEN: Well, she sort of said, I don't want what Janet done did.
SIGESMUND: Something like that. But that was a lot compared to everyone else.
(CROSSTALK)
TOURE: I mean, like why didn't CBS put her on the show, make money off of her, and keep it moving.
SIGESMUND: Right.
TOURE: That's the last revenge to actually go because people want to see her.
BETTS: Yes.
SIGESMUND: The thing is Janet is taking a stand, but she's not really a political artist, and I don't really think people are going to rally behind her.
(CROSSTALK)
BETTS: It was missed fashion opportunity.
O'BRIEN: Exactly. And that's at the end of the day is what these things are all about, isn't it?
TOURE: That's right.
O'BRIEN: You guys, as always, it's nice to have you. Thanks for coming in this morning.
BETTS: Thank you.
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Aired February 9, 2004 - 07:45 ET
THIS IS A RUSH TRANSCRIPT. THIS COPY MAY NOT BE IN ITS FINAL FORM AND MAY BE UPDATED.
SOLEDAD O'BRIEN, CNN ANCHOR: You are hearing that music. You know what that means. It's time for "90-Second Pop," time to take a look at the morning-after take on Grammy night.
Joining us this morning, Toure, contributing editor for "Rolling Stone," Kate Betts is style and design editor for "TIME," and B.J. Sigesmund is staff editor for "US Weekly."
Good morning.
TOURE, CONTRIBUTING EDITOR, "ROLLING STONE": Hello.
KATE BETTS, STYLE AND DESIGN EDITOR, "TIME" MAGAZINE: Good morning.
O'BRIEN: Let's get right to it. Boy, I thought Beyonce Knowles was just perfection.
TOURE: Wow!
O'BRIEN: She had that big number at the very beginning with Prince.
TOURE: Yes.
O'BRIEN: And it was just -- I thought it set a really nice tone from the get-go.
TOURE: Yes. I mean, it's so great to see the great legend, Prince, step in and give a great performance, and then Beyonce comes out, gets the Holy Ghost as she likes to do on stage, takes it to a whole other level. I mean, wow! What great fun, yes.
O'BRIEN: Good performances. Outkast as well. I mean, no surprise really that they walked away.
TOURE: No surprise. I mean, it's a fantastic album, an important group in the history of hip-hop, in the history of music. It's great to see them win, up there with George Clinton, Earth, Wind and Fire (UNINTELLIGIBLE). And the thing I loved is, though, Andre 3,000 gets to have both his tits out (UNINTELLIGIBLE).
(CROSSTALK)
O'BRIEN: And no one said (UNINTELLIGIBLE).
TOURE: Right? O'BRIEN: T-I-T-S, we're not using that word this morning. OK, let's try to keep it clean.
B.J. SIGESMUND, STAFF EDITOR, "US WEEKLY": I thought that there were one too many performances, though. It was three and a half hours long.
O'BRIEN: Oh, they're always long.
(CROSSTALK)
SIGESMUND: I don't know. It just seemed longer this year than it had in prior years.
O'BRIEN: Do you think people missed the whole Janet Jackson thing or...
SIGESMUND: Yes.
O'BRIEN: Really?
SIGESMUND: And I want to talk about that. All day yesterday I thought...
O'BRIEN: Please.
SIGESMUND: No, all day yesterday I thought she's going to be the surprise guest. You know, we've had a whole week of this. I thought she'd come out maybe arm in arm with Justin, her partner in crime on that stage, and say one last apology and get a standing ovation and move on.
But, instead, she wasn't there. She was punished. And I'm surprised by that, and I'm surprised that Justin didn't stand up more for her. You know, his apology, which was demanded by CBS, I thought was a day late and a dollar short.
(CROSSTALK)
O'BRIEN: Well, let's roll the apology, because you know what? We've got it cued up. Let's listen.
(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)
JUSTIN TIMBERLAKE, SINGER: Listen, I know it's been a rough week on everybody, and what occurred was unintentional, completely regrettable, and I apologize if you guys were offended.
(END VIDEO CLIP)
O'BRIEN: Oh, please!
SIGESMUND: I don't know.
TOURE: I mean, I agree with B.J. that perhaps there should have been a nod to Janet, but this is the 1984 big brother part of it. He couldn't have, because CBS would have cut that right off. So, now they have control in what not only what you do in potential malfunctions, but what you say.
SIGESMUND: Speaking of that, I was following along on the Internet and actually the Grammy Web site was posting winners at least two minutes before you saw them on television.
O'BRIEN: Wow!
SIGESMUND: And I'm hoping that it doesn't happen Oscar night, because you want that surprise.
TOURE: (UNINTELLIGIBLE) disappointing.
O'BRIEN: No surprise there when you find out a couple minutes ahead of time who won before they announce it on TV.
SIGESMUND: Right.
O'BRIEN: All right, let's talk about the fashion. Forget the awards, the winners, blah, blah, blah. Let's start by talking about Beyonce, because I thought just fashion-wise, perfection.
BETTS: She -- yes, it was her night.
O'BRIEN: She does each and every time.
BETTS: She looked beautiful. The pink dress I thought was especially beautiful. But she -- everything she wears she looks fabulous. She has such great style.
O'BRIEN: What a great shot of her holding all of her Grammys in that gold dress.
SIGESMUND: Right.
BETTS: Oh, yes, beautiful.
O'BRIEN: And just so curvy and -- well, there it is right there. And you think, she really knows how to pull off style.
SIGESMUND: How many outfits did this woman have?
O'BRIEN: Like (UNINTELLIGIBLE).
TOURE: And it's her and her mom. They were doing the styling.
BETTS: The style, right.
O'BRIEN: Yes.
TOURE: So, it's not like she's hired some professional.
O'BRIEN: Yes, she...
TOURE: I mean, these are her ideas. You know, the "Dangerously in Love" performance was all her idea.
O'BRIEN: Yes, she looks fantastic.
BETTS: Yes.
O'BRIEN: Mary J. Blige, what did you think of her outfit? Because...
BETTS: I thought she looked great.
O'BRIEN: You did?
BETTS: I thought she looked really glamorous.
O'BRIEN: Some people thought she looked like (UNINTELLIGIBLE).
TOURE: Yes, I agree with you.
BETTS: Go for the color statement. I thought she -- i think she's great. I'm sorry. I think she's fabulous.
SIGESMUND: I loved this, too. I thought that thing was really beautiful.
TOURE: I don't know. She looked like she could get attacked by a yellow polar bear or something.
O'BRIEN: It was kind of bright and large and puffy. Christina Aguilera, as we saw, I mean....
BETTS: The first dress she had on I thought was pretty, but the pink dress...
O'BRIEN: This one here?
BETTS: Yes, I wasn't -- the hair it was a little strange.
O'BRIEN: You're a fashion insider. How does that thing stay on?
BETTS: There are secrets i can't tell you on the air. I'd have to kill you.
O'BRIEN: I mean, because gravity-wise and every which way.
SIGESMUND: Well, she was really trying.
BETTS: She was (UNINTELLIGIBLE).
SIGESMUND: She was dangerously close to coming out of that thing.
TOURE: She was struggling a little bit with it.
O'BRIEN: You know...
SIGESMUND: And she alluded to Janet, which was one of the only mentions of her the whole night. She said she doesn't want the same thing to happen to her that happened to Janet.
O'BRIEN: Well, she sort of said, I don't want what Janet done did.
SIGESMUND: Something like that. But that was a lot compared to everyone else.
(CROSSTALK)
TOURE: I mean, like why didn't CBS put her on the show, make money off of her, and keep it moving.
SIGESMUND: Right.
TOURE: That's the last revenge to actually go because people want to see her.
BETTS: Yes.
SIGESMUND: The thing is Janet is taking a stand, but she's not really a political artist, and I don't really think people are going to rally behind her.
(CROSSTALK)
BETTS: It was missed fashion opportunity.
O'BRIEN: Exactly. And that's at the end of the day is what these things are all about, isn't it?
TOURE: That's right.
O'BRIEN: You guys, as always, it's nice to have you. Thanks for coming in this morning.
BETTS: Thank you.
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